City Council - Regular Meeting

As we approach Valentine's Day this week and this week, let it remind us of your perfect love for all of us and how you demonstrate that love to us every minute of our lives. In this, we must never forget your two greatest commandments of the Bible of loving you first with all our heart, mind, soul, and strength, then loving our neighbors as ourselves. So Lord, I ask you again to bless each city leader and staff person here tonight. that their voices and decisions be pleasing to you in a way that brings countless blessings to this wonderful city of Paris. And Lord, I pray that this council meeting tonight is guided by you and through it all, you will be glorified and praised. Lord, we love you with everything we are and we honor and praise you in the powerful and most holy name of Jesus. Amen.

Thank you, pastor. Please join me in saluting our nation's flag. Right hand over your heart. Ready? Begin. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Item five is a report on close. Thank you. Thank you.

Item six is our presentation announcement. 6A is the introduction of our Riverside County Fire Chief, Robert Fish. Up, Chief. So, allow me to read his uh bio. Chief Fish began his fire service career in 1992 as a volunteer firefighter in Marino Valley. From 1995 to 2001, he served as a state dispatcher and public safety communications officer 2 at the Paris Emergency Command Center. In 2001, he was hired as a firefighter 2 paramedic and was promoted to engineer paramedic and fire captain paramedic over the next 10 years serving the Coachella Valley. In 2010, he transferred to the Emergency Medical Service Bureau. He was promoted to battalion chief in 2015 with the CalFire San Diego unit as the Monte Vista ECC Chief. He then returned to the Riverside unit in 2017 as mountain battalion chief and accepted the Eastern Desert Division Chief position in February 2019. He served as deputy chief of eastern operations for the past five years and was appointed CalFire Riverside County Fire Unit Chief in December of 2025. Chief Fish holds an associate degree in fire technology, a bachelor of science in fire engineering protection and administration, a CFO and a CMSO accredit accreditations is a state chief fire officer and maintains his California paramedic license. Chief has been married for 22 years and he has three children. One is a city fire engineer, a US Navy petty officer, second class, and the third is a premed college student. Welcome, Chief Fish.

Uh, thank you, Mayor, uh, council. I appreciate you giving me the opportunity to come and introduce myself. Um, Paris is an important and uh critical partner to us as part of the county fire department. It has served as the seat of our county fire department headquarters and Cal Fire headquarters since uh the late 40s early 50s. And uh much of my career started just around here in the corner um over at the uh Paris CCC. Uh, I'd also like to congratulate the city on its uh, successful temporary station, station 105, and uh, moving forward with the construction of the third fire station here in the city. Monumental accomplishment and very meaningful to the public. Um, I'm just coming to introduce myself and um, Clara, please uh, let me uh, apologize. I've been chasing you, but we haven't been able to connect our schedules. Um, and I'd like to spend some time with you and hear more about the city. um to the council. Um again, the county fire department's here to provide you world-class uh fire protection services. Uh we value you and uh we want to continue to be a good partner. I'm just here to uh commit to that and uh to ensure that you know if you ever have concerns or questions that we're always here to help you solve your problems, we want to be great partners.

Excellent. Thank you, Chief. Thank you, Mayor C. have any comments? So, what I would like for you to do is hang hang tight for a while. We're going to do the next presentation and then we're going to come down and take some pictures and we'd love to take a group shot with you as well, too. Sure. Excellent. I Thank you. Love it. Thank you. All right. Item B is the city of Paris employee of the quarter recognition for the fourth quarter of 2025. This item this item will be introduced by our director of administrative services, Miss Sida Amoscar. Good evening, mayor, members of the city council. This item will be presented by community services supervisor Miss Cynthia Lemus.

Thank you, SA, honorable mayor, members of council. Tonight, I am proud to recognize Jordan McClanahan as the employee of the quarter. Jordan began his career with the city as a recreational leader, assisting with sports programs and coveraging the gym. From there he expanded his impact by supporting YSC and special events quickly showing his commitment and leadership. We he was promoted to recreation coordinator where he continued to lead special events and activities and a few years later was promoted to senior coordinator. In that role, Jordan took on the responsibility of overseeing the senior center ensuring it remained a welcoming and well-run space for our senior community. His popularity among the seniors he served speaks volumes. showcasing his genuine dedication, strong relationships, and ongoing commitment to creating meaningful programs and positive experiences for them each day. Jordan brings nine years of service with the city and over 15 years of experience in the rec field, making him a true asset to our department and the residents we serve. Outside of work, Jordan channels his creativity and passion into running his own music label, dedicating his time to music production, engineering, and marketing. You can even catch him on stage under the stage name Clutch Royale. Tonight, Jordan is joined by his mother and his sister, and we are honored to celebrate both his professional achievement and the support system that stands behind me. Please join me in congratulating Jordan McClenn. Honorable mayor, uh members of the city council, uh thank you so much for this prestigious and honorable award. Uh first and foremost, I forgot my my speech, so I'm right off the dome, so just uh bear with me. Um I really do appreciate this. Um first and foremost, uh to the council management team, thank you guys so much for believing in me, giving me the opportunity, um to work here, to be here for so many years. Um

to my co-workers, uh to my supervisors, to everyone who's here, I really appreciate um just uh being there and pushing me to be the better version of myself uh possible every day. Uh to my family that's here, I just appreciate them for really pushing me on the days where I didn't feel like being here. And um you know, I just really appreciate all of the times, the efforts, the the tears, the crying, the praying. And this is just truly a blessing. And I thank everyone for this opportunity. Thank you.

Awesome. All right, we're going to come down. We're going to present you with a certificate or a plaque and then we'll come up and make some comments about you. Story of my life. All right, Jordan. Congratulations. Employee of the quarter. Upon recommendation of city staff, the mayor, and the council proudly present to you the employee of the fourth quarter, may it be known that the employee recognition committee hereby acknowledge Michael Vargo. Typo, we'll get you another one. We acknowledge you for your dedication and unwavering commitment to the city of Paris. Your efforts are commendable and greatly appreciated. Presented on this 10th day of February, 2026.

So, come on. Council can please come down over and give Jordan a handshake. We'll take some photos after that. So, in addition to uh we're also going to give you a gift card for $150. So, let me know let me know when we're going to go shopping so I can be there with you.

All right. And then in addition to that, we're going to continue with the key to the city. Mom and sister. Mom and sister. Come on up, mom and sister. And give us one of your cameras. We'll take a picture. two. Fire.

Finally, someone that can see appreciate. Appreciate All right, council. Anybody want to make some comments? Did the chief leave? Chief. Okay, he's gone. Any comments for uh uh Jordan? I have uh Councilman Corona in the queue.

I did have some comments for the you know, I did have comments for the chief. You know, we can still do it. Yeah, I'm sure he can watch it later on, but uh you know, you know, I I do I do want to uh ju just welcome our the the new Chief Fish uh to our city. It seems like he comes with a lot of accolades and accomplishments and uh you know, I I do I do hear hear uh a lot of great things about him. So, I'm I'm sure he'll join he'll enjoy his time with our with our uh community. I also have comments for Jordan. Sure. Yes. Go for it.

Uh Jordan, congratulations. I I I had had no idea that you were going to be the one getting the employee of the quarter, so so I was really happy. welld deserving. Uh, you know, you you're a true asset to our community, especially to our seniors. Uh, and and you always come to work with a with a great smile and, uh, you know, I'm sure the community also appreciates your positivity and and and I do hope that you're I'm sure that your mother and your family are are are as proud as you uh for for raising a wonderful son and and for all the great work that you do to our city. So, thank you, Councilwoman Vallejo. Yes. And I also want to um first first congratulate fire chief Robert Fish. Um I I've I met him a few months ago and he's a very very nice knowledgeable man. So I just can't wait to welcome him to Paris and then see what partnerships we have there. Uh secondly, I would like to thank Jordan. Congratulations, man. I actually knew Jordan before I became a council member. He knew me when I was just uh a part-time wade. And uh you are probably like the most realest employee out there. You keep it real with me. You gave me so much advice on how to move higher up in here. So Jordan, I really appreciate you. Uh you are such a nice and amazing person. Every time I see you, you have nothing but good smiles and the most stylish person here. I can tell you that. Um but thank you for being you and thank you for never changing. I appreciate you.

Councilwoman Nova, I too would like to extend a warm welcome to Paris to our chief fish and congratulations Jordan and to your family. I thank you for everything you do for our community. We have the opportunity to interact uh during community service events and you do a phenomenal job MCing all the events and you just have a really good way to work with community. So, I truly thank you for everything you do and I wish you much more success here in the city of Paris. And again, thank you to your family for being here and supporting and for allowing us uh to to get the best of Jordan. So, thank you so much,

Councilwoman. Uh Manner Rab start off by congratulating Jordan. Been here nearly a decade. Seems like you've been here longer than that. And I remember when remember Joe Vargo called you Jordo. So, every time I see you, we joke around and call you Jordo. um can always count on you to bring positive vibes to the city where it's mceing uh different various events, rides and rails, different festivals throughout the city and working diligently at the senior center. So, keep up the good work and employee of the quarter. I feel like you're one of those employees that are employee of the year. So, thank you so much and congratulations for your family as well for helping you out. Also like to congratulate Fire Captain Fish for coming to the city of Paris for coming back to the city of Paris and uh serving serving us. Look forward to working with you over the next few years. Thank you.

All right, my man. Congratulations, Jordan. Very welld deserved. And I can also say too that uh got a lot of happy smiles over in the senior center. I go there a lot and you are doing a great job. You are an asset to this department to this city and I appreciate everything you do and uh look forward to many more years of having you here in the city. And to our fire chief, uh, I want to make a distinction. He is the new fire chief who oversees all operations in the Riverside County. Our city fire chief is in the back, Scoville. Raise your hand. He's our fire chief for the city. Uh, that's his boss that we just introduced. So, we welcome. So, if you remember the past fire captain, our chief was the guy that was like eight feet tall. I stood on a chair and I he was still taller than me. So, but we welcomed our new county fire chief, Robert Fish. So, all right. So, moving on, we have item seven, our youth advisory committee communications. Tonight, it will be given by Amy Reynoso, the vice president. Good evening, honorable mayor, members of city council, and city staff. My name is Amy Reynoso, and I'm honored to serve as the vice president of the youth advisory committee. I'm pleased to share several exciting updates on behalf of our committee. First, YAC recently hosted its 10th annual job shadow day, which was a great success with over 200 students and 30 businesses participating. We thank you to all businesses, staff, and volunteers who made this event possible and to the mayor and city council for your continued support. In addition, our park speed beautifification event held on January 20th was well attended and

impactful. We invite the community to join us for our next park speedification event on Saturday, March 21st, 2026 at Gotes Park. In addition, as for upcoming events, YC will be assisting at the city's Black History Month celebration on Sunday, February 22nd, 2026. We are excited to support this meaningful event that celebrates culture, history, and community. Our next YAC meeting will take place on Tuesday, February 17th from 5:30 p.m. to 6:30 p.m. at the council chambers. We welcome youth who are interested in leadership, civic engagement, and community service to attend and learn more about how they can get involved. Additionally, on February 25th, 2026, the public services department will be hosting a Montlay scholarship workshop at the Statler Youth Center from 5:00 p.m. to 6:00 p.m. This workshop will provide students with information on eligibility requirements, the application process, and tips for submitting a strong application. We encourage eligible students to attend and take advantage of this valuable resource. Lastly, the YC application for 2026 2027 term is now open. The deadline to apply is Friday, May 1st, 2026. Availability is limited and we encourage all eligible youth who meet the requirements to apply and become involved in serving their community. As always, we encourage our community to stay safe, stay engaged, and stay connected. For the latest updates on YC programs and events, please follow us on social media at Paris YC. Thank you for your time and your continued support. We truly appreciate your partnership in helping make Paris a vibrant, welcoming, and

inspiring place for youth and families. Thank you, Amy.

Okay. Item eight is our public comments. This is the time when any member of the public may make a comment on matters that are not listed on our agenda, but they are matters of the city. Madam clerk, do we have any requests to speak? Yes, sir.

JC Franco Can everybody hear me? Yeah. Hi, good evening council. My name is JC Franco. This is Himea. She's going to share Skittles with the entire crowd here. So, everybody split one. Um, I came to share a little bit of a of an of an anecdote. Um, I am an adjunct professor at local community college. I've been so for

I've been I've been so for the last five years. And I I want to share an anecdote really quickly if I may. Uh this is from an email that I sent to a student. Uh hi Mr. Fernandez, I very much appreciate your assignment submission. Has come to my attention that a portion of your submission appears to be AI generated. I wish for a course to be academically challenging and nourishing and a nourishing experience. Perhaps your assignment was only slightly influenced by via AI. Do let me know if there's any way I can help. To which Mr. Fernandez aptly responded, trust me, bro. And that was the extent of it. Um, I gave it gave him an A. There was nothing I could really do at that point. I had to pass that assignment just just because the sheer courage to do that. Um, but because I really couldn't check um my student if if that was uh their intent or not. And so that anecdote while it just happened, I just started my semester. uh it served a as a as an example for how we treat um those developers and and folks that want to be a part of our community, want to do work in our community and that the trust me bro uh narrative is one that we we as as a city as a community actually c can challenge. I couldn't do that with a student and I took it as a joke. But we and and you all have that responsibility to protect the community and to challenge whenever developers make empty promises, whenever developers um suggest uh any means by which they they aren't supplying uh formative data, formative um information that we can verify ourselves. Um so uh with that footnote, um I yield my time and and I thank you.

Thank you. Ismael Gonzalez.

Good evening. Once again, my name is Esan Gonzalez. Hello, city uh council, city staff. It's a pleasure to be here again. Uh my name is Gonzalez. I'm from Rena Valley. I I want to remind you of that just because I uh want to keep this respectful. Um but also it's relevant in uh today's news. Uh the LA Times uh from last week uh uh made a uh article uh which headlined read votes against warehouse moratorium buckling local trend. Uh you you've seen me here before uh in January, December, November uh when you guys were considering your own moratorum and uh credit is uh you know valid where it's where it's due. I I'm here to give you credit in passing your moratorum, even extending it for 10 months. Uh it could even be extended later, right? Um unfortunately, I'm here as a defeated Marina Valley resident that um you know, unfortunately I can't say the same for my own city. Um but there was a lot of a lot of coverage uh from the LA Times, from CBS LA. Uh the reason why I'm bringing this back up is uh because nine other cities uh reportedly passed moratoriums in some fashion including yourselves. So respect where you know credit is due. Um I also want to bring up the issue of artificial intelligence just like my colleague uh JC did right now. It's an ongoing uh pressing issue. I think um back when you were mayor pro tent uh council member Rabb he said that AI data centers and AI in in general will be the issue of our time. Here it is coming to our front door. You know here here it is having a real world implication. And I also want to remind that uh a lot of these corporations that um operate AI data centers are looking for new locations to operate them. Right? We have a lot of uh

empty vacant warehouses here. Um, please be proactive in setting an ordinance, a ban on those kind of op opportunities, uh, operations. Please don't let AI data centers come here because this community, uh, according to your own deputy superintendent for Valverde says that 80% of his uh, constituents, his residents are are Latino, Hispanic. So, what's the point in having AI demonstrators here in in communities of color with a council of people of color uh where it's only going to affect us negatively, right? We're going to be the communities hit hardest. Um I'm from Rena Valley. There's flaw cameras everywhere in our streets. I hope you guys understand the dangers that they pose because those data, those flock cameras are reporting everything that they could see back to those AI data centers and back to ICE, back to the Department of Homeland Security. And really, they're violating our constitutional rights. Please be proactive. Set, you know, an ordinance against these kinds of things and protect your communities before they get

Thank you, Carlos Arvantes. Carla Cervantes overflow. Ashley B. That is all.

We'll wait a couple minutes. See if they're going to come over. All right, let me move on to item nine. If they come in, we'll I'll go back and let them speak for their public comment. Item nine is approval of the minutes. 9A is consideration to approve the minutes of the regular joint meeting held on January 13, 2026 of the city council, successor agency to the redevelopment agencies, and all those other entities as listed on our agenda. There are no comments or questions from the council. I entertain a motion to approve. I have a motion by Councilwoman Nava, second by Councilman Rab. Please call the vote. FA motion approved.

Thank you. There's Ashley. Come on up, Ashley. Was Carla Cvantes back there with you? I was in overflow, too. Excuse me. I wanted to be on time for you guys. My name is Ashley Barton. I am here representing Rise Paris Pride. We are a queer le organization for allies and other queer families, anyone who relates with LGBTQ. We wanted to say happy Black History Month for this month of February. And in honor of Black History Month, we are going to be celebrating Marcia P. Johnson, who was a queer radical activist and a black woman, always known for her flower crown. And that's what we're going to be doing on February 28th. We'll be making paper flower crowns as our workshop. It's a safe meeting space from 2:30 to 4:30 right here at the library at the Caesar Chavez Library. And I also wanted to say that I had been at the corner of Paris and Noeo for both of the walkouts or excuse me, technically there were three. The first one was very small. And I wanted to say how proud I am of the students there. Um, uh, everyone was being very respectful to me. Of course, many people asked me for help or for suggestions and opinions. Um, and

it was an amazing show of love from the community to the community and I was so appreciative to see that. On the second walk out, there was about 50 kids. And this one specifically had kids from their middle school who had walked uh almost 3 miles um over an hour. And I was there on the corner with them when the accident happened. It was unfortunately reckless behavior and somebody got hurt quite seriously. Um, it was a child and I had been seeing the coverage and one comment stuck out me out with me. Where were the adults? And I want to echo that too because I think I was the only one. Maybe there was another there. Somebody had showed up later at least for that particular day. On the third walk out, there were a few more. Um, we need to be supporting our kids. I saw kids pointing out their family members. Hey, I know them. Hey, that's my mom. That's my uncle. And I can't speak for anybody. Everybody has their own reasons to be able to come out and not. But these kids need guidance and they need leadership and they need it from adults who know how to stand up for themselves and how to show kids how to stand up for themselves as well, especially safely. That's what I wanted to say. Thank you.

Yep. I think that's Carla back there with the mask. Is that you, Carla? Okay, come on up, please. Okay. Hi, good evening, council. I try to rush over here. Um, thank you for letting me speak. Um, I'm here with the Freight Communities Action Coalition. We did send out emails um for our follow-up summit on February 21st. Um I know that you guys, most of you already have plans that day, but if you guys can send any representatives from the city of Paris at the summit, we would be so grateful. At the last um summit that we had in November, the city of Paris had some really good strong representation there. And as you know, this um new law, the AB98 law, is already in effect. And so we will be attending the meeting tomorrow and maybe we could invite some of the people who are going to be hosting that workshop to represent the city of Paris. Um, thank you.

Thank you. All right. Going back to our agenda, item 10 is our consent calendar items. Consent calendar items are normally enacted in one motion. The mayor or city council may remove a consent calendar item for a separate action. Council may have anything they want to pull. If not, I'll entertain a motion to approve before I ask for public comment. Do we have any public request to speak on this? No, sir. Okay. I have a motion by Councilman Rabb, second by Councilwoman Nava. Please call a the vote.

50. Motion approved.

Thank you. Item 11 is our public hearings. 11A is consideration to adopt resolution number next in order certifying the final environmental impact report. the no also known as FEIR SC 2024080337 identifying EIR alternative for as a project with a proposal 391,720 ft square foot partial hub on 70 acres on the southerntherly side of the site and adopting the mitigation and monitoring and reporting program statement overriding considerations and findings of fact and approving the general plan amendment 24-05175 specific plan amendment 22-05250 tenative partial maps 22-05251 TPM 38810 and 24-05198 TPM 38811 conditional use permits 22-05005 and 23-5235 development plan reviews 22-5239 and 23-000018 to facilitate the comprehensive update of the harvest landing specific plan and phase 1 development consisting of a commercial retail center water qual quality recreational basin and a partial hub facility as as described in alternative for the project EIR with the modification to relocate 391,725 foot partial hub on 70 acres to the southerntherly site side of the site and introduce the first reading of proposed ordinance number next in order approving the 24-05176

to reszone 5.54 acres in the northerly area of the project site from light industrial AI to multiple business use which is MBU and to apply the MBU overlay to 10.66 66 acres currently developed with the Velvery Elementary School and approving development agreement amendment 17-05136 for specific project improvements and community benefits to facilitate the comprehensive update of the Harvest Landing specific plan and phase 1 development including the 391,725 square foot partial hub on 70 acres on the southerntherly side of the site. This is going to be introduced by our director of development services, Mr. Kenneth Fun. Good evening, mayor, members of the city council. This item will be presented by our planning manager, Patricia Bennis.

Good evening, honorable mayor, council members, city staff. Uh, thank you, mayor, for the project introduction. Um, Harvest Landing specific plan consists of 358.28 acres and is located um across it's located south of Placentia Avenue uh where there's industrial and commercial development. is located um west of Paris Boulevard um where there is residential, commercial, and vacant land um north of the north the Paris uh the Paris shopping center and um east of Frontage Road and the I215 freeway. The adopted harvest landing specific plan includes um 1,860 units on 169 acres, 80 MB MBU units, and 43 um acres of open space. The proposed project includes 615 units north of Orange Avenue, 190 MBU acres, 16.5 open space acres, and 46 acres of commercial area. The project includes updating the the harvest landing specific plan in two phases. However, originally the project included um a total of six warehouses um on the easterly side of the site uh totaling 1.4 million acres um and 428,000 square feet of commercial development. a parcel hub approximately 322,000 square feet and uh MBU areas um for future development in phase 2 located north of Orange Avenue

prior to the planning commission meeting on December 17. The developer agreed to revise the project um to be consistent with staff recommendation u and this is referred to alternative 4. In alternative four, the project will remove allowances for any in new industrial warehouses and distribution centers. Um, it will retain the residential land use. It will also retain the regional commercial center and the parcel hub at 391,000 square ft uh which um is needed for the last mile delivery of goods to customers. The planning commission, as I mentioned earlier, considered the project on December 17 of last year and recommended approval of this project by a 3 to one vote and one recusal for the alternative for modification. The um specific plan uh that's that was um considered by planning commission uh preserve the residential land use of 615 dwelling units north of Orange Avenue. Uh and also the 16.5 acre sports park uh eliminates the allowance of new industrial warehouses and distribution centers allows only one parcel hub development for the last mile delivery of goods and allows for commercial and business park development on the remaining MBU land. The phase one development proposed as part of this project um located on the southerntherly side of Orange Avenue um will shift the parcel hub to the south uh reduce the parcel hub and these are planning commission recommendations. So they requested that the parcel hub be shifted to the south that the parcel hub square footage be reduced in size from 391,000 to 322,000

square feet. Uh the commercial shopping center remain the same. Uh also the um 12.91 acre basin with recreational amenities remain the same. And the MBU areas um that are vacant um are within parcel one and and I'm sorry, phase one and phase two are proposed to be developed in the future. The phase 2 development um includes the 60 point the 16.5 acres sports park north of Orange Avenue and 51 acres of designated MBU for future development. So council is being asked tonight to consider the developer proposed modified alternative 4. Uh the applicant is requesting a larger uh uh building footprint for the parcel hub. So instead of the 322,000 square feet recommended by the planning commission, um the applicant is re asking for 391,000 square feet for the parcel hub. Um also the lot size or the area for the parcel hub is asked to be increased from this 56 acres recommended by the planning commission to 70 acres. And this will be to um allow the end user, which is FedEx, um to be able to um for their needed operations and to to be able to do their on on-site sorting and vehicle staging. The developer has indicated that the project's financial viability is dependent on FedEx's occupying the parcel hub facility under the current community benefits proposed under this project. And uh this slide shows you some of the uses that are permitted in the multiple business use or MBU designation um of the of the harvest landing specific plan. And I'll just highlight some of them. Um hospitals, hotels, grocery

stores, administrative and professional offices, clinics, um restaurants, video arcade, and residential uses. Um the as part of the project, the applicant is proposing a number of community benefits uh totaling approximately 35.5 million. Um and they include um building the commercial shopping center at the same time as the parcel hub. Uh prior to occupancy of the parcel hub, at least 75 square feet of the retail shall be opened and operational. Uh they're going to provide below market rate um commercial rental rates. Uh they're going to construct five public art installations valued at $2.5 million. Um they're going to build park amenities within the detention basin uh valued at $9 million. Um they're going to offer a relocation for Valber Elementary School uh which during negotiations at this time. uh they're going to uh coordinate a job fair uh maintain a lifetime partnership with the city uh for the annual Christmas toy drive and construct the 16 acre harvest landing sports park as part of phase two not phase one. So, uh, without the an increased square footage and lot size for the parcel hub, the applicant has indicated that the project will not be viable. And I'm going to go through some of the renderings and building elevations um that are um for the for phase one development. Um, this is the commercial corner plaza from Orange and Paris Boulevard. Um, this is a rendering showing the commercial corner plaza and the amenities, the passive amenities that you can find there. Uh this is another view of the commercial corner plaza. This is a rendering of the entry into the commercial shopping center from Paris Boulevard. Now I'm going to go through building

elevations of the um commercial uh inline tenants. Um so the start uh that you see on the key map is the the the elevation that you're going to be looking at and primarily the um architecture is um a modern interpretation of farmhouse in in in um neutral colors. Here are some elevations. This is a rendering of the big box retail. This is a rendering of the basin with the recreational amenities. um totaling like I mentioned before 12.9 acres. Um it's going to consist of pedestrian walkway path, exercise stations, seating areas, and this will be maintained by the commercial developer. The parcel hub that's proposed to be relocated to the south of the site um will include 27,000 square feet of office area and 2,000 square feet of retail for a uh shipping store and services. Um there will be adequate parking on site for this for this use. Uh they're proposing 14% of landscaping and a total of 839 trees varied in size from 24in box to 48 inch box trees. This exhibit shows you the line of sight from the uh 215 freeway. As you can see, uh the landscaping and the proposed screen walls will uh adequately screen the the trucks from public view. This is a rendering of the parcel hub um from this is the the um northerly area. These are the elevations of the parcel hub facility. This elevation this um exhibit shows you the overall height of the parcel hub. It's going to be 54 feet of which um the

ceiling height at the lowest point is going to be 30. The interior ceiling height is going to be 32 feet and the the the 54 ft is needed um to allow for for the uh roof to be um pitch so there's adequate drainage and for installation of the rooftop mechanical equipment. This is another rendering of the parcel hub and the landscaping around it. Um as part of the uh since the parcel hub um is proposed to be relocated to the south, um staff is recommending that the condition of approval requiring that was that was placed by the planning commission requiring that the new school be must be completed and operational before the existing school ceases operation be removed or deleted as the relocation of the parcel hub will no longer pose any land reducing compatibilities with the sensitive receptors to the north of Orange Avenue. And the conditions that would be applicable will be uh planning condition number 26 and engineering condition 14E6. an ER was was prepared for this project and the notice the notice of availability um in in um notifications for meetings um were sent to property owners within 1,000 ft of the project site uh which exceeds the 300 notification requirement. Uh the EIR determined that um four areas are significant and avoidable and they pertain to air quality, greenhouse gas emissions, noise and transportation and uh adoption of a statement of overriding considerations will be required in order to approve this project. Uh, since the issuance of the planning

commission staff report, staff has received over 650 emails and 11 letters in support of the project and 12 letters in opposition. Uh, the comments in opposition do not raise any additional environmental concerns that haven't already been addressed in the EIR. This slide shows you um the the um names of the organizations and individuals that submitted letters in support and letters in opposition. With that, staff is recommending that the city council approve the planning commission's recommendation with the proposed amendment to move the parcel facility south of uh of the on south of the site and closer to the freeway so that it's further away from the future residential development and the sports park north of Orange Avenue. plus the addition of increasing the parcel hub facility square footage. As the project financial viability is dependent on FedEx occupancy uh of the parcel hub facility without the increase in square footage and lot size, the applicant has indicated that there is no project viability to include the commercial shopping center components. Therefore, staff staff recommends the following adoption of the resolution certifying the final EIR um identifying the EI alternative 4 as the project um with the larger parcel hub on 70 acres and adoption of the mitigated negative um I'm sorry adoption of the mitigation monitoring reporting program and statement of overriding considerations and findings of fact adopt resolution approving the project and introduce the ordinances approving the zoning change the zone change and the development agreement amendment to facilitate the comprehensive update of the harvest landing specific plan and phase one development subject to the conditions of approval and findings contained in the ordinances.

Before I conclude, I'd like to read into the record that the public comments um have been made available online and the links have been provided to the city council for consideration tonight. And that concludes staff presentation. I'll be happy to answer any questions. Thank you. Thank you. All right, let's go ahead and call on the on the applicant if he has a presentation. The applicant just came up to me and just indicated that the sports complex will be proposed as part of phase one, but he can make that clarification during his presentation. Mr. Mayor, Council, good evening. My name is Tim Howard. I'm here to speak to you about Harvest Landing, which is our mixeduse development that reflects the balanced type of of development that Paris residents want to see now and going forward in the future. No other project in the last 20 years that has come before a city council has brought more positive impacts for our community.

I'm sorry. Can you So, no other project that's come before council in the last 20 years has had more positive impacts. This project represents um a collaborative effort between ourselves as commercial developers and our community. Um let me see. Tonight I want to speak to six themes there are. I want to describe our community outreach effort, the commercial and retail section of the project, our FedEx parcel hub, our housing element, the outdoor amenities, and summarize the community benefits that that we'll bring to uh to the city of Paris. As I walk through these themes, it's it's about what has come to us from our collaboration um with all of the residents and stakeholders within the city. Our first theme tonight is our community outreach. Excuse me. Over the last four years, we've had the benefit of of much guidance not only from from city council and the planning commission. As you see, we've made modifications to the plans. Uh we've also received input from planning staff, the engineering department, building uh and and and other city departments. We've listened um to what the community communicated to them and we've incorporated that into Harvest Landing. When we first acquired the property way back in 2018, I remember the first thing

I did was reach out to the mayor and city council for guidance. What do you want to see in your city? How can we help you? and how can we improve um Paris? I heard loud and clear that presidents that that that Paris wants and needs a shopping center with better choices, sit-down restaurants, and an active community space. Our community outreach consisted of over 15,000 door-todoor contacts. The overwhelming response from these door knocks was 86% of those respondents asked for more local employment. 86% 84% support this project. When you sit down and talk to them and and explain each of the components, 84%. We've hosted five community outreach events where we shared lunches, dinners with with um community members. That gave us an opportunity to sit across a table from them and hear what they wanted to be added to Paris and what they thought we needed. The whole goal was to elevate the bar, do a better job, and and bring make Paris a model for um for the county. Let me move on here. So, as as Patricia mentioned, we've had um online petitions. We've had supporter cards. That number now um with the online petitions as of this morning uh bring us over 2,000 supporters. No one else has has had near that amount

of support. I think we've broken Kenneth Fun's desk with the amount of cards that we've dropped on his desk. You can see from the map here up on the screen, we plotted where the majority of the supporter cards were and and and just so everybody can see it's it's logical that it's around the the project itself. Um the majority of the of the respondent cards that we received were in district one. We also have our own uh letters of of support from organizations. In your packet tonight is a letter of support from Valverie Unified School District. Paris Valley Chamber of Commerce has been a great partner to us and they've indicated their support. The Paris Historical Society has been an invaluable partner. They've given us their perspective of what Paris represents past and what they want to see in the future. They've been super to deal with. Um, from the commercial side on the uh on our retail section, we have letters of support from Chase Bank, Hobby Lobby, and then our our our water company has also uh sent in a uh letter of support. One thing about Harvest Landing is um we have uh a great amount of water from from a well and we're working with EMWD in order to put that into the system to create a stronger, more consistent uh water supply for the city of Paris. on the commercial uh front. Um this is our second theme this evening and I'm

going to go into detail about this. This is uh I arguably uh been our most popular um portion of the development. So I'm going to drill down on this a little bit. First slide tonight um is a rendering of our plaza area. The plaza area is intended to be a community space. It's supposed to give us a uh it's supposed to get us out of the car and walk. Um, I'm happy to announce tonight that that through um input from from you on the council, um, one of the things that that everybody talked about was for our community since the movie theater's been closed, we need a family fund center. And tonight, um, through a lot of, uh, work and phone calling and and, uh, explaining our development, I have a letter of intent here, um, that I can share as I've shared with the other with you the other letters of intent of the tenants for a, uh, family fund center, uh, fun zone, including bowling and entertainment attractions at Harvest Landing. So, I'd like to enter this into make this available to all of you. It's um let me just kind of give you a an indication of of what they're talking about. So, bowling uh arcade games um it's it's similar to round one in uh Mareno Valley. So, um let me just go on because I'm going to drill down on this. the uh this is an important part for for who we are as

Paris. We needed this and so I rolled up my sleeves and I have been beating the phone. We tried to get Top Golf. They wouldn't come down here. We've got uh round one and I think it's a a great addition to setting off the tone of our plaza area which is going to be connected to the residential and the business park via POS. So, Patricia, I made her stand up here for too long. Anyway, she thought I was going to drone on. Um, let me u be more definitive uh as to um who is coming to town. Uh on the left, you'll see u the the big box retailer as as indicated in Patricia's uh presentation is Sam's Club. Sam's Club will own and build this facility. Um, they will also be providing a fuel island as part of their development. I think this is a significant uh not only from a from an economic impact. This uh store is is forecasted to do between 120 and $150 million a year in annual revenue. And given where we are as a community, I think that this is a is a is a big win for us. Then into our our inline retail stores. Um Patricia shared with you the the elevations. I'm going to share with you the names that go with those. Um, we're happy to say that we have letter of intent with um, Dick Sporting Goods, Hobby Lobby, Marshalls, Sprouts, Petco, Carters, and Famous Footwear. All of those letters of intent have been delivered to one or more of the council

members. So, this isn't, you know, pie in the sky. I'm not up here offering false promises. These are real letters of intent and they're waiting on your action this evening. Let me transition the corner. I spoke about our plaza area. Those are those five four little buildings at the corner. Again, those are connected to the new homes via PO and um with the guidance of the uh historical society, the art and public places will give us places to walk to, sit, visit and uh enjoy the day. Now, moving into the uh restaurants, these are all sit down. Um we we listen closely. We're not going to have any drive-throughs. Okay, that's my that I'm I'm tired of a short shrift for Paris. We're not going to have drive-throughs unless Malcolm wants his coffee. Then we'll we'll Council Member Corona, we'll get you a coffee place. But but from my perspective, no drive-throughs. Okay.

Thank you. Thank you. It's all Mr. Mayor's work. I got to tell you, Mr. Mayor was was serious about this. Let's move on now. Um here's a here's an elevation, the artist's rendering of the prior uh elevations that were shown. Again, it's a it's a prairie style, but it has a craftsman influence. And that's the theme that is going to connect all of Harvest Landing. We want that theme because that's what the historical society talked about and that's what I've adopted. You're going to see it in the housing element and you're going to see it here. We need to do a better job and not take short any shortcomings from anybody here in Paris. I'm putting my foot down and I'm the first developer to do it. Here's our plaza area. Um, again, this is in the back. Um, that's where we're having our family fund center. And so, um, I'm committed to that. Uh, we also wanted this to be an area where we could host special events. Um, I know I've been upstaged by the city's uh Christmas tree lighting uh uh ceremony, but council we're going to participate in perpetuity in the toy drive. Okay. That we have a commitment to do it. It's in the uh the conditions of approval and we'll put it in our leases. As long as there's a there's a tenant in those buildings, they'll be participating in in what I think is one of the strongest things that says Paris is our community, and that's our toy drive,

the entire Harvest Landing um development. is it's a it's a mix. I I was telling people at our community outreach event is that that if you look at each one of the components of this development, they're like a leg of in a chair. The FedEx parcel hub is one of our key elements. In fact, without them, this project isn't available. And I'm proud to have brought uh FedEx to town. FedEx is recognized as one of America's most respected companies. As you look at their corporate image, as you see them in public, as you see them coming and calling on your home, they have the respect of uh like like no other. This is a fantastic addition to our community and these are the kind of jobs that we that we want. It's not uh Tim and and Michael's logistics company that uses a staffing agency. Let me get into a little bit more background about FedEx, though. FedEx is a is a great partner for us. Um, this building that they're building in is a is a uh is going to be an owned facility. It's not something that gets leased and they move out in 5 years. This building's designed for a 50-year life. They're not going anywhere. If we if we allow them and you approve this project tonight, these people will be here for generations. FedEx corporately has uh undertaken a major initiative to electrify its global delivery fleet. They're ahead of the post office.

They're ahead of UPS. The corporate commitment is for them to be carbon neutral by 2040. Nobody else in town has done that. They're going to invest $2 billion in an electric fleet. They're going to focus on electrifying their um pickup and delivery vehicles. So the so the vans that come to your house will be electric. They'll be phased in over time. It's not happening tomorrow, but bear with us. This is the company that's making the move to do it. They're leading the pack. the rest will follow. In 2030, they will only buy electric vans to uh come into our neighborhoods. Here's a picture of one. This is taken on Fourth Street across from Denny's the other day. I took it myself. This is what it looks like. You've seen them. Uh we're on the cutting edge. Um, and so this is what this is what will be the the component that you will see more and more over time. Let me move on. Here's an elevation. Patricia showed it to you earlier. Let me tell you what's inside. This is the employee entrance. This is uh the gateway or the front door to 27,000 square ft of office space. A typical warehouse has 2%. Do the math. If it's 290,000 ft, it's 5,000 ft of office. This has 27,000 ft that's operating. There'll be a regional uh vice president here. He's got his his suite on the second floor. Additionally, we'll have a ship center that's open to the public. So, if

anybody in this room misses a shipment and needs to get mama's Christmas present out, go here. There'll be a maintenance maintenance area where skilled um where skilled technicians will repair the conveyors that load those small trucks. These are skilled people. These are not AI jobs. Let me just get into um the the building features. Again, there'll be 850 new jobs here. Full-time employees get health benefits. Ask the city manager how many of our logistics companies do that. She's going to tell you that it's a minority. These are career jobs. The gentleman in the audience tonight, the the least tenured is 10 years. The most tenured is 35. You don't go to work at a company and work there 35 years. If you don't respect the people and you don't have respect for the company, we've got them them here tonight. Now, I know I get I get criticized about um these these buildings aren't state-of-the-art. This is a tool. Um this is a hammer. If I'm going to hang a picture, I use a hammer. Some of you have probably used a screwdriver. NY's looking at me like, "Yeah, I've used a screwdriver to do it." This is a hammer. It's a specific building with a specific use. It's not a warehouse. We are installing

solar infrastructure on the roof. People want to know why it's it's it's so tall. We're hiding the solar array that's on the roof of this building. We are hiding the air conditioning that's on top of this building. If we don't build the thickest, strongest roof, the air conditioning will fall through the roof. If this were a warehouse, it would fall through the roof. In addition, um I want to point out that that because of our commitment to the city and our respect for the city, we are limiting the the the large truck travel is only going to be on frontage road. That is the city's dedicated truck route. We're not changing anything except um the city engineer is making me rebuild all of Front Edge Road. We're going to add three new travel lanes. It'll be widened to five five lanes in total. Center median included in that. We'll be adding two new traffic signals. The traffic signals will make sure that everyone working in this facility is safe and has the ability to get in and get out and not cause any traffic interference. One of the speakers this evening talked about AB98. We've always been on the forefront of this. By following the planning commission's instruction, moving the parcel hub south, we are over 2200 ft away from the nearest residential. That exceeds AB98 requirements by double. Our traffic engineers have studied this this project at nauseium. will be making significant improvements to Paris Boulevard. But I wanted to point out that the that the parcel hub is only

contributing about 10% of the total traffic volume. The rest of it coming from our our our retail. We love our retail. It's popular with our residents. We're going to make sure that Paris Boulevard is improved properly. We're adding a a a traffic lane. We're putting in um the city engineers biggest baddest uh um storm drain system and it's going to work. Right, John? Okay, here's our site plan as you see it tonight. This is what we're asking approval of. the parcel hub, the big box retail, our inline retail, our family fund center, our plaza, all of those things come together with with and and also our housing element. We have we have followed to a tea the planning uh commission's recommendations. I noticed that one of the commissioners is here in the in the audience tonight and I appreciate that he's in attendance. We've pulled out 1.5 million square feet of warehouse space. We are going to do better currently. Hold on. This is going to get better. Just hold on to your hats here. Um that's right. And that's right. So, in the areas that you're asking to to that we're asking you to designate as MBU, um the our our planner, Patricia, the first use that she pointed out was a hospital. That's what I that's what I committed to to uh to Council Member Corona in a

conversation. and I have never not been able to produce. Our vision for the 50 acres in phase two is to bring a hospital. Currently, the the discussions that we're having with four different groups and I I don't have a letter of intent sign, but don't doubt me on this. We're talking to four different groups. We have a 200 bed hospital envisioned. If we're able to get that, we are going to blow through our employment numbers. The hospital alone will will produce 2,000 jobs and over a and close to not over close to a billion dollars of economic activity. Let me tell you how determined I am to get them. If the mayor and I keel over dead right now and have a heart attack, which I might, the the response time for paramedics is going to be quick. Then what do they have to do? They got to drive me to maybe the county hospital, maybe I go to Riverside. We need that here. We're almost 100,000 people and we don't have that. It's been a pretty easy sale for me to explain that we are in a uh desert here and we need this healthc care. We have the new facility across the street, the health campus, and wouldn't it be great if we were able to bring some of those doctors over to this hospital and have them practice there? That's my goal. I've got 10 more years in this business, and that's what I'm going to get done. Let me let let me talk. Our our fourth theme this evening is our new housing

element. Let me just jump into this. This is exciting. We have 615 new housing units in u on on 50 acres that that we can uh get after right away. There's there's been some confusion and you can blame it on SQA, you can blame it on me, but I think it's SQA because I don't want to take the blame for it. What we've already had uh discussions with planning staff with a uh a home builder and I'm going to tell you about it. Just let me get going. Um, but we have 50 acres by right and if we approve the project tonight, we will have our our first application into the planning staff within 45 days. We have the ability with with with all that we have going on, we have the economic engine to drive into uh to build these houses and get that infrastructure in. Okay. Um I'm happy to announce tonight for the first time I made that part up is um our our housing developer is a third generation um uh house builder, home builder, community builder. Um and it's Germanmania Corporation. They started here in Mareno Valley. They've worked throughout the region. Um it was started by Kevin Wolf's grandfather, Hans Kersimper. Hans started in 1970. His his son-in-law came in. Kevin's dad, Bob Wolf. Bob's partner was Harley Knox. That should be a name that's that's recognizable to everybody here. Harley has the freeway off-ramp on the 215 as part of his as part of his legacy.

I wanted somebody who was local. I wanted somebody who understood Paris. And I'm happy to tell you tonight that Kevin, it will be our our homebuilder and Jerania Corporation is on our team. So, let me just talk about the houses quickly. Within the housing development overall, there'll be 4 and a half miles of new uh streets uh curb gutter sidewalks. We're going to build it adjacent to the sports park which again is going in phase one. Patricia phase one. Um and the homes as you see here you can see the architectural similarities because we're trying to make what is what does Paris represent? Paris represents this community. Paris represents a higher standard. Now it's it's it'll be built adjacent to our to our parks. It'll be connected to the the retail via PO. What's a PO? It's a big walkway that will get people out of their cars and get them down to enjoy what really is the essence of Paris. Again, um Kevin will have that application in within 45 days from the approval this evening. Here's a perspective of what 615 homes looks like. It's adjacent to the soccer field and I'm confident that we'll have um many young people and old people uh enjoying this park. Just as an aside for everybody on council and everybody who wants to know this development uh the planting regimen is over 3,500 trees and as and as our planning staff pointed out the smallest tree that we

will plant is a 24inch box. We're not going and getting 15gallon trees and telling you that this is going to grow and sit tight. I'm not waiting another 10 years for a tree to become viable. Let me just talk about the outdoor amenities. This is our 15th this evening. If you compared the numbers, this plan has 78 acres of open space, which dwarfs the P the the prior plan. 16 1/2 acres will be dedicated to our our soccer complex. It's going to be run by La Academia. La Academia is a is a jewel that not many people know about. Certainly people in my business don't know about it. There's over 2,000 families that are that are supportive of this project as we will give them a home field. This will be this will be privately owned. It'll be maintained by La Academia and it has all of the components that they need in order to host tournaments. And if we can get tournaments in town, maybe I can build a uh a hotel out at the out at the off-ramp. The complex is is directly adjacent to the u to the 13 acre uh outdoor amenity which will have a u which will have the pathway around it. And coincidentally, it's about one kilometer. 610 of of a of a mile in circumference. So everybody training for your 5ks or your 10, you

know where to come run. That amenity will have um outdoor uh stations. This this photograph here shows some of those outdoor uh stations as well as the art uh sculpture in place there. Here is what the stations will look like. So, there'll be pull-ups, sit-ups, push-up stations. Some people refer to these things as park courses. This is just a perspective of again soccer complex next to the homes. Our final theme this evening is is our community benefit summary. So, we've all thought long and hard about how to make Paris better, right? That's our duty as as as being part of the business community and being part of the family uh that is Paris. I've had the opportunity through my community outreach events to to meet people, listen to listen to the folks, and become friends with them. And I'm proud to say that each of these I I I'm just so happy to be welcomed in uh with my, as I call them, my familia. Let me just summarize one point here on these community benefit summaries. These aren't willy-nilly things that are half This isn't empty promises. This isn't halfbaked. This is the real deal. Paris has one of the best planning staffs. Paris has a great engineering

department. Paris has a great building department. It's got a It's a great place to work. The people understand it. They've listened to you. They've held my feet to the fire. They've codified each and every one of these conditions into what you are going to vote on this evening. This isn't any wiggle room. This is the real deal. What What are we going to bring to Paris? As you can see behind me, we have a number of construction people. We're talking over time 6,500 jobs as this thing as this thing builds out.

Personally, I've always been committed to my union brothers. Why? As I know many of you have had the opportunity to visit with the carpenters, seen their training center. If you go through that training, you are the most qualified person that's that's on the job site. And I'm proud to say that we're going to have three project labor agreements. One with the carpenters, the other with Lyuna. And nobody knows what Lyuna does. Okay. So, I'm going to tell you, we're going to put $90 million of infrastructure in here. Lyuna will be handling the majority of it. These guys are absolutely the best. Storm drains, water lines, curb, gutters, sidewalks, they live here. They want this to be a success and they will be the best craftsmen for our community. There will be 5,600 jobs created. The major, as I mentioned tonight, FedEx is here. What a great way to start this. One of America's best and most respected companies. If we get this if we get this this this hospital in here, we're going to have 2,000 jobs there. I had the occasion to spend time uh at Parish Union High School's open house this last Friday. I saw the the the pre-programs that they have for for health care professionals, nursing, those types of things. Those kids are, as we call them, our future. But

wouldn't it be great to keep them at home? We're going to get this done. As I mentioned, there's $90 million in infrastructure. For those of you who don't know what that is, talk to the Liona guys. But I'm going to summarize it real quick. Curb, gutter, sidewalk, water lines, recycled water lines. That's what these gentlemen do and ladies. Okay. um the economic uh benefits for this project, the retail center alone, according to DTA, which is your consultant, my consultant, as as the tenants that I've laid out tonight on the site plan that I showed you with the Sam's Club, we will generate over $246 million of gross economic activity. put that in your calculator against sales tax and think about it on next June. We are the beneficiaries of a great historical society. We are going to we are going to uh include a $2.5 million art and public places program. Again, we need to raise the bar so that the people behind us raise their bar, too. We're going to do this through art in public places. Art is is what binds us and having the historical society give us the themes that they wanted to see. The ranching, the farming, a tribute to Clarence Muse, one of Paris Paris Paris's most uh famous and overlooked residents. Those are the themes that will be first that will be part of our program.

Um the the letter of intent that we have um with Valverie School to relocate them to a site that's twice the size that they currently have and away from the freeway where the environmental impacts affect our children. This was something that I came up with. Um, I acquired 20 acres and uh and offered it to um the school district. Again, we have our signed letter of intent with them. Um, and uh we'll see if if if that's where they they want to go, but it's it's a it's an ongoing discussion and I can't say more than that. Again, the 78 acres of landscaped and open space, 3,500 trees. Um, it not it may not seem like much from an economic standpoint, but you know what it does? It raises the bar for development in Paris, and I'm proud to offer that. We'll have over 20 new shopping, dining, and retail options, 21 now with the with the family uh fund center. Um, we'll also have the uh the 16 acre La Academia uh soccer complex. These kids deserve better. We're out of space. We're all over the region. We need to get these guys a home. And with that, I want to I just want to thank I want to thank you for the opportunity to present this tonight. These are great people that we have as our neighbors. The kids have been fantastic. We've had more fun doing this project. It's taken eight years to get here, but we're here tonight, and I'm asking for an approval

from each and every one of you. Thanks very much. I'm here with a with a whole platoon of of people to answer any questions that you may have. Thank you. All right, before I open up the public hearing, council, you have any quick questions? Okay, let's wait till we go into discussion. All right, this time I'm going to open up the public hearing at 8:02. And clerk, do we have any requests to speak?

Yes, we do. How many?

58. All right. In the interest of time, I'm going to allow for one minute for public comment and we're going to allow for 1 hour of public comment. So, um, starting at 8, we'll call it at 8:05. We're going to continue public comment hearings until 9:05. Highly recommend if you if you don't read off the same thing the last person just did, just tell us you support, you don't support. But, you know, we'd love to hear more people come up and give their opinion what they want, but just try to avoid reiteration of everything that everybody keeps on saying. It takes up more time. All right. So, we're going to call off five names at a time. We have reserve seats up here in front. Folks, if you're not here to speak on this matter, I need you to give up those seats. And um, Madame Clerk, call the first five up, please. Yeah.

All right. Um, so for the for the union members, since you're all here in solidarity, if you would send one representative up, the rest of you guys can stand behind them and make your comment as a one group. Omar, I'll let you decide on who's going to do that. In the meantime, work with Omar Omar. So, what I'm gonna We've got two unions here. We've got Launa and we have Carpenters. So, we're going to allow that for both of you guys. So, we'll have uh carpenters come up first. One person come and represent all the carpenters. And then we'll let Laguna come up. Is there another union besides the two there? Who are you with?

Building trades. What? You're not going to know until we call them.

No, I'm doing the unions first. All right. Good evening, mayor, city council members. My name is Julio Flores. I'm a representative for the Western States Regional Council of Carpenters. Uh we do represent over I would say uh 500 of those members who live within Paris, right? Uh I know we keep hearing all these different numbers. So uh I'm going do a little bit of math myself. There's 500 members. Uh let's assume that every single member has a spouse. So that's about thousand members that live within your city, right? That's a thousand me thousand people who uh let's just say they have kids. Let's add another thousand to that, right? 3,000 people who depend on these type of opportunities, right? these type of projects to be able to uh build in the city that they live in to continue to contribute and putting food on the table. Uh this development is a no-brainer. It's uh it's it's put real well, really good. It's going to create uh lots of opportunities within this city. It's going to make it look 20 times better. and uh it's going to create a lot of jobs and it'll help us to continue to contribute to our uh apprenticeship to our pension and uh be able to retire one day with dignity. That being said, uh hopefully you guys vote yes on the harvest landing. Thank you.

Thank you.

Okay, Luna representative. So, keep in mind if you're going to be remaining here, she's going to still call through all the names. I would respectfully ask that if your name gets called up, please say I'm with the union so we don't have to bring you guys back up. Got you. Go ahead, sir.

Good evening, Mayor Council. Uh, thank you for the opportunity to speak. Um, Jose Garcia, proud member of Lyuna for the past 36 years. Music to my ears tonight. this project would bring retirement for me and a good opportunity for my kids that are following in my footsteps as as well as many uh we have a local here in Riverside County representing thousands of uh Luna members that would love to work on this project. We are skilled workers. We're ready to build this project. We're ready to deliver you a worldclass project here. As the developer mentioned, it seems like money ain't an issue here. Let's get this done right. Let's put people to work, not only in the construction, but in the other side of it. We want to see all our residents thriving from this. So, please support this project. Thank you.

Thank you.

All right. Building trades. Honorable mayor, council, and and staff, thank you for this time. My name is Albert Dwarty, and I'm a representative. I'm the building uh business manager of the Riverside San Bernel Building Trades. Um you know, uh the first uh speaker uh spoke about trust. Uh there are 6,500 jobs here. Um we do support this project. It's a beautiful project and it's going to make a difference, but it's important that we have skilled and trained workers on every level. Uh when you're talking about uh uh workers uh carpenters and laborers, you're probably talking about 700 workers out of 6,500 that leaves 5,800 workers that that need uh skilled and trained work. We're we're uh uh the building trades hires locally. We've got four 2500 members here in the area and it's important that this is a complete building trades agreement. Um it just adds getting into the the schools with our curriculum. Uh skilled and trained labor is the only way to go. But we do support the project. We just ask that uh that it be a complete building trades uh agreement. And the bottom line is our workers make between 80 to $100,000 a year. the

Thank you. Appreciate it. All right, madam cler call the first five.

Michael Torres, Christopher Solis, Carlos Pacheco, Clayton Moore, Freddy Chavez. All right. If your name's called, please come up to the front. Have a seat. Sir, you can go ahead. Just give us your name. Good evening. Uh, my name is Mike Taus. Uh, I've been a proud um I've been proud to call Paris my home for the past 20 years. I grew up here um along with uh with Malcolm and David. we went to school together. Um, and now I'm watching my own kids grow up in the city that helped shape me. Um, as a coach for KicksFC, I'm not just coaching a team. I'm coaching, you know, family members, uh, kids that, uh, of friends of mine that I went to school with as well. Um, you know, these kids deserve every opportunity that we can give them, uh, in order to help thrive. So, uh, I'm asking is this to for you guys to see what we see and, you know, help, you know, get this approved. Um, it's an investment in our youth, our families, and the future of Paris. So, I'm I'm all for it. Thank you.

Thank you, Christopher Solis.

Good evening, Cono. Um today I'm here to speak about about the sports complex on part of La Academia. Uh we're ready to take our our level to the next step as well to be able to be competing with the top clubs and just ready to make an impact in this community for everyone um the families the the youth of this uh community. It's it's beautiful to see what we're growing here as kicks and it's just something that we want to take another step and have something on our own to be able to attract more to this city as well. Um we compete with San Diego, all these counties, but Paris is still that little thing there, you know, and we're ready to make our name on the map for the community and just know that we have the support from you guys as well, too. just providing a better opportunity for these kids and showing them what what we really have here and be able to provide them the right the right step. Thank you.

Thank you, Carlos Pacheco. Madam clerk, make sure to put the ones that did not come up to the side and then at the end we will give them one more opportunity. So you've you've called the first five. Only two showed up. So call the next five. Play in more.

Hold on, sir. Hold on, Clayton. Call the next five to the council and everyone. Clayton, hold on. Oh, hold on. Okay, I'm a little hard to hear. Maria Torres, Victoria Scoedo, Lenny Sarate, Jerry Sapova, Lupe Gomez. Okay, if your name's called, please come up to the front and they call you. Time is running. I want to give you guys an opportunity to get to speak. Clayton, go ahead.

Go ahead. Okay. Yeah, I'm I'm a senior here in the city and I'm I'm retired now. I've been in the city since 1999. So I uh watched it grow and uh these projects that you're talking about I think is going to be good for the city and currently some of the things that the city doesn't have is coming because I had to go to him or to many somewhere to to get into some of the projects that you guys are talking to talking about. So, I think it's a good thing for the city and it will it will be nice if they stick this is the right direction to go for uh Paris. I love this city. I've been here a while now and I've watched it grow. So, thank you.

Thank you,

Freddy Chavez. Good evening and um I come to say to you guys to please approve this project because we do need it. I'm a citizen of Paris for so many years and I haven't seen this. This is a future for our kids, a future for everyone, and to have a nice Paris, good-looking here, and and others, they're going to be jealous of us. And I I approve it myself. Please approve it. Thank you.

Thank you, Carlos Pacheco. Okay, you guys, you came up. She called your names, right? Just come on up. Just give us your name. I know it's Maria Torres. It's going to be hard to keep them in order. Just give us your name so we can mark off that you came. Good evening, Mr. Mayor. Good good evening. Good evening, city council. I approve this project because I believe that we create traffic by going and look look up the stuff that we don't have here like Sams, Chase, Olive Garden, all the stuff. I approve this project and I really ask you guys to approve it because we need all this stuff over here. Thank you. What's your name, ma'am? Maria Torres.

Maria Tor. Thank you very much. Maria Victoria, come on up. Victoria, you've got four three people still up front here ready to go. Victoria, can we get the translator up front and we're going to give her two minutes on the timer? Good afternoon everyone.

My name is Victoria.

My name is Victoria Esco. I'm 66 years old. I have seen this and this city in Paris growing my children have grown here. My grandchildren are growing here. I have seen how all of this is growing. It's beautiful. Firstly, I thank God. I ask for God to give us a strength to everyone for these projects. giving us all this opportunity for all these people for work and thank you all very much and don't forget about us uh elderly.

I'm paying a lot in rent and I have my own projects just like you from here to for tomorrow. have my little home for my elderness. I'm a strong fighter like you all. And for Paris to grow and to be beautiful like Thank you for giving us the opportunity for having us. Bless Jerry Sova.

All right. Good evening, honorable mayor, city council, and staff. I'm Jerry Seovva, president of the board of directors of your Paris Valley Chamber of Commerce. After many meetings with the developer and continual adjustments over time, we believe Harvest Landing project is uh really fine-tuned and aligned with our goals as a city, as a chamber. um eliminating all the warehouses and no potential future warehouses on the property due to the good neighbor policy that you guys all enacted. Um this is really right for Paris and we're excited about the continual growth. Um we're excited about the developer and the plans. I mean everything that he went over we're excited about. Um obviously the retail which will generate more taxes um which is obviously in need um with the plans ahead, right? So, we're very much in favor of this project. Uh, along with the jobs, we're excited about taking care of the the job fair uh for the city regarding the the project, the amenities, the housing, FedEx. Um, you know, we're talking about careers, not just jobs. Thank you.

Thank you.

Lenny Sarate. Good evening, honorable mayor and members of city council. My name is Lenny Zerati from DTA's public financing uh division. We have been working on the fiscal and the economic impact analysis for the harvest landing project since 2020. Based on the current site plan and prospective tenant mix, the current retail commercial component of the project is expected to encompass more than $424,000 square ft of a leasable space and generate more than 236 million in annual sales revenue. This revenue will in turn generate substantial sales tax for the city's general fund. Thank you.

Thank you, Lupe Gomez. Good evening uh mayor, city council. So I think we can see what happens when the community is heard. The community works together, works with the developers, with city council, with the unions, and with the other community organizations. We've seen this project come a long way. But I am here to tell you and remind you there are still a few points that need to be addressed. And this is of course up to you at this point. This is your decision. This is your legacy. And so this is the only thing that would put this in a bow, if you will. A timeline. How long is it going to take to get it to where it should be? And please require all of the letters of intent of those who will be coming in. I did share this with Tim when we spoke. That is something that I still feel very strong about. So, above all, this is your legacy and let's see where it takes us. Thank you.

Are you supporting or opposing the project? I think I still need to hear from the city council to see where we're at.

Thank you. The next five, Leslie Black, Alicia Adams, Ryan Sullivan, Vanessa Delgado, Eater Vasquez, Lesie Black. Good evening, Mayor Vargas and city council. My name is Lesie Black. I do live here in Paris. I came tonight because I truly believe in creating opportunities right here at home for families who live here in Paris. One of the reasons Harvest Landing res resonates with me is that it could bring thousands of new jobs to our community. These are jobs that allow people to work close to home, spend less time commuting, and spend more time with family. The project also includes millions of dollars in road and instruct infrastructure improvements at no cost to taxpayers. Those upgrades will make daily travel safer and smoother for everyone without placing any additional cost on residents. What stands out most to me is the project's long-term benefits to our city. Harvest Landon is projected to generate millions in annual revenue, which helps support public safety, parks, youth programs, and many.

Thank you, Alicia Adams.

Good evening, Mayor Vargas and city council, and howdy neighbors. I am um Alicia Adams and I live on the corner of Paris Boulevard in Orange. So, this project is going to directly affect me and my family. I would like to say that I've been here for four years and I've lived in many cities, Los Angeles, San Diego, San Francisco, and when I say this community deserves this project, they do. Our children deserve it. Our our parents deserve it. Our educators deserve it. We deserve to be able to not have to leave our city for family dinners in order to have sports events um to work. We deserve this project. We look forward to this project and I support this project.

Thank you. Ryan Sullivan.

Good evening, mayor, city council. My name is Ryan Sullivan. I'm with CBRE. My team uh is spearheading the leasing efforts on the retail component of this shopping center. Um we've been working hard for three plus years to bring these tenants to the table. I'm here to tell you that they're real. Not only do we have letters of intent, but we have real estate committee approval from most of the names you see on that site plan. Uh these tenants are ready to sign leases. They're ready to go. Um we are excited about bringing these quality retailers. We've got Sprouts Markets going to bring healthy uh natural and organic food to the the community. We've got Dick Sporting Goods. We we've just got a great lineup. It's a first class center and we're excited about it and we hope you give us our approval and we can get going on it. Thank you. Thank you,

Vanessa Delgado.

Good evening. Uh my name is Vanessa Delgado. I am the owner of Azour Development and we are leading the retail development uh component of the project with Ryan. Um I've been working on the site plan for four years and I am really proud of the tenants that we've been able to secure, but we couldn't do it without um Howard Industrial contributing the land. And this opportunity means so much to me as the only Latina owned development company in California. It's going to be something amazing and I can't wait to build it. Thank you. Thank you, Peter Vasquez.

Peter Vasquez. We got you. The next five, Felix Fernandez, Juan Garcia, Dan Little, Kevin Montes, John Bradshaw.

Hello, city council. My name is Felix Fernandez and I've been a resident of Paris for over 34 years and I've seen the cities around us grow rapidly while Paris has grown at a very slow pace. The builder has put a lot of thought and hard work into this project and is bringing some wonderful and much needed establishments into this wonderful city and to disprove it at this point would just be a disaster for the city and its residents. It is my belief that each of you as a city council member have done your homework regarding this wonderful project and knows the revenue it'll bring to the city. The Paris residents want to spend their money in Paris and not go to Manify, Tmacula, Marina Valley or even Riverside. I will conclude with you as city council members have a wonderful opportunity to do something great for the city of Paris and its residents. It is my hope that the city council will unanimously vote it to approve the harvest landing project and do what is right for the city of Paris and its residents. Thank you for the opportunity to speak in his support of the Harvest Laby project.

Thank you, Juan Garcia.

Dan Little, Carpenter, yes on Harvest Landing. Thank you. Thank you. Kevin Montes.

How's it going, council? How's it going, Mayor? My name is Kevin Montes. For the few that you know me, I am actually the founder of a project called the lot 951 and cultural center. It's something that we're trying to bring here. Um, for the past months when I speak to people about something that's needed, it's always comes back to a movie theater. We're somewhere where our youth can go program, excuse me, have programs for them and everything. And that's a concept that I brought. Um, I presented it to the mayor. I gave him a just the concept of what it is. a three-screen movie theater, a cultural center tied to it for the schools, nonprofits, and other people to be able to use and have their programs there instead of having to go out out of the city. Um, another fact, we don't have a driving movie theater within like 20 30 miles radius from here, Riverside, San Diego, and when they closed a movie theater here down, that was one of the visions that I have coming in here to this city because I'm new. I've been here maybe like going on four years and that's one of the things that I have for here. Thank you very much.

Do you support or oppose this project? Thank you, John Bradshaw.

Mayor Council, you have um you've really made a lot of good decisions lately in the businesses you've brought in and the infrastructure you've been taking care of. I believe that a project like this can not only make the city look more beautiful, but it actually make the city grow from the the point where you see it now to a a place where everybody wants to come. So, uh I do appreciate this and uh I approve. Thank you. The next five squees Jr. Dean Daniel, Larry Bootos, I would like you support.

Thank you, Larry. Martha Ma,

if your name was called, just come on up and just give us your name so she can check you off.

Good evening, mayor, council members. My name is Dean Daniel and I'm with Daniel Fine Arts Services, which is art consulting firm. We're working with Howard Industrial Partners to ensure to confirm or to bring to Paris a quality art program, public art program. As part of this project, we have met multiple times with the uh historic society to go over and develop themes that they want to see and how they want to see the history represented through their art. And we will continue to work with them and develop the as the art is developed. But um together we have discussed themes that reflect cultural and historic foundation of the area including ranching, farming, railroads, mining, Native American history, and pioneering families. These themes will guide the artist in creating work that will not only enhance the development visually, but also educate, honor, and connect residents and visitors to Paris's past. We believe this approach transforms public art into something lasting, something that builds identity and pride while respecting the community.

Thank you, Dean. Julio Reyes Jr.

Hello, Mr. Mayor, City Council. Uh my name is Julio. I'm here representing Academia and 2,000 families that are in our on our club. Um, a project like this will double those numbers of kids. Right now, we're keeping kids out of trouble, showing them how to be leaders in our community, showing them about colleges, guiding these kids to have a better better community here. Having these fields will double those numbers. Not only that, apart from the fields, jobs, we're getting a plaza for elder people. There's so many things that this project brings to our community. and those that have grown up here like myself, this is probably the biggest project Paris has had. So there's this is a no-brainer for our community. We need this and we want this and we support Harvest Lightning.

Thank you, Martha Ma. S Amquida in support. Thank you, S. The next five, Raphael Martinez, Anthony Cruz, John Mott, Anne Mont, Parisa Jabelli, Rafael Martinez,

you need a translator. Yeah. Okay. Make sure to double up the time. Good evening, city council Martinez. My name is Rafael Martinez.

I've been a resident of Paris for more than seven years.

I am here in the name of uh academia um football club. During this time, I've seen how our community has grown and how our families need more recreational areas. Uh just as like it creates positive outcomes for uh young young folks and give us a sense of honor. support project landing landing project. It's an investment that's going to bring real benefits for our young people,

for our activities, and for the future of Paris. Thank you. Gracias,

Anthony Cruz. Good afternoon, city council members. We heard from many of these residents here. I too am a resident. But let me tell you, these promises are nothing but empty. We've seen the same arguments happen at Bloomington. We've heard that the same this project will bring in taxes and revenue. But I say to you that we are given the bare minimum. If we wanted more that would benefit the people of the city, then we shall demand that the developers revise and continue negotiations if they want approval. We need commitments, not phrases that seem promising. I'm winning 19. Yeah, I've seen that every time we allow a developer to come to our neighborhood, they leave with more than what they given. But what we do know is that every time a developer comes into town trying to build warehousike development, there comes poor air quality and water quality and poor water quality, more traffic, and not to forget that the children and workers of Alberta Elementary Schools will get affected by the nitrogen oxide and MPDs that get polluted to the air that make up 70% of responsible gases that lead to the main indicator of cancer-causing um symptoms. We need promises that are actually reflected in written Thank you,

John Mont.

Good evening, Mayor and Council. I'm a former uh city councilman and I definitely support the project that especially should consider the $90 million in infrastructure and $3 to5 million they said annually to your budget you could add. So, it's very positive because you need to look at everything financially. And I was on the city council when we we did the specific plan for industrial in the north part of Paris because of of the airplanes. We figured there were you can't build houses because of uh uh noise and height limitations. So what I really think you should do is is stop the moratorum like like at least look at all your projects just like you've managed this project very well between staff and the developer. It looks like a really really good project, but I think you should do that on your all your projects instead of having a moratorum. So, thanks.

Thank you. Is Ann here tonight?

Well, Oops. Okay. Good evening, uh, honorable mayor and the council. Uh my name is Anne Mott and I'm a 43 year 43 year resident here of Paris and also sit as a director for for the Paris Historical Museum nonprofit. Um I am strongly in favor of this project approval and I have a particular interest in the quality of the historic artwork that the developer will include and intertwine within the project. Um, our staff worked diligently on themes to be incorporated, uh, such as the Native American history, Hispanic, Clarence Muse, our railroad history, mining, farming, and also the Cadurus family uh, who farmed and owned the property from the early 1900s. Um, we toured a Howardu built uh business park uh and we saw 50 examples of quality artwork intertwined in that development in the form of mosaic tiles, paintings, carvings out of various.

Thank you, Ann. Yes. Thank you, Parissa Jabelli. Good evening, honorable mayor and council. My name is Perisa Jabelli. I am speaking on behalf of the Paris Valley Chamber of Commerce, and I am in favor of the Harvest Landing Project because it aligns with Paris's vision for smart growth. It brings retail, housing, community amenities, and quality jobs that will strengthen our local econom economy. Thank you.

Thank you. The next five, Albert Dwarte, Nina Ray, Dave Stewart, David Moore, JC Franco. Thank you, sir. Thank you, Nina Ray.

Honorable mayor, members of city council, members of staff, good evening. My name is Nina Ray and I'm representing Darden Restaurant Groups who are the parent company of Olive Garden. We have had letter of intent for over 3 years for this project. I'll really appreciate it if you guys can approve the project. We can have a quality restaurant here. So, your citizens are not going to your neighboring cities and giving them the uh incomes that the city should be receiving. So, I would really really appreciate it if you could support this project. the developer has put a lot of work has worked with the rest of the team at the city and had done a great job. So, we really want to be part of your city and bring the Olive Garden in and start construction as soon as we can. Thank you.

Thank you, Nina. JC Franco, you got to repeat that. They they were clapping.

JC Franco Good evening, council. My name is again, JC Franco. Um, I can't believe I'm going to use uh such colorful language, but trust me, bro, is is literally all I heard during that proposal from the from the uh developer. It it's it's honestly absurd. U put your money where your mouth is. Put it in the DA. Don't use Audible last minute to put it uh like, oh, this is the promises you're going to get. It's absurd and ridiculous as a business and as like a send um a signal of respect to the city. Uh secondly, the the IT report that this is all hinging on it it makes a parcel hub look like it's some greenwash project. Uh quite honestly, it's a Hummer with solar panels on top. So, it's it looks it performs and and uh presents itself just like a warehouse. It's going to be ridiculous to see that development from from Novo once you're exiting off the 215 just like you see the one that literally John uh Shardlo the developers lawyer the the projects in Eastville and in Rialto they're quite hideous. They look like warehouses. Please. Um, I I want this commercial, but

Thank you, Dave Stewart.

Good evening. My name is Dave Stewart. I am one of the officers of the Paris Valley Historical Association. I want to add my voice to Anne Mottz uh that we did tour the um examples of the street art that this developer has put in other projects. And we came away convinced that street art such as that would do a very good job of enhancing and presenting the history and culture of Paris to the citizens walking through this project. Let me also take put on another hat that I wear which is I'm a retired member of your planning commission. I spent 14 years on it and so I'm well aware of some of the issues that surround projects such as this and in my opinion the location of this project and the way it's been laid out makes a very good Thank you David. The next five, Kevin Wolf, Alex Madrid, Karolina Kanas, Hector Lewis, Jose Osuna Fisado.

Good evening, honorable mayor, council members, staff. Many of you know us from decades of working in this valley. Uh our family's been here for uh actually four generations and God willing July 13th we'll have our fifth generation out here. U be a grandfather. We're happy to be part of uh the housing element of this project. We have been building and developing in this region for three generations soon to be four. Um we've done everything from save March air base during realignment when my father was working with the congressman Calbertt. We spent time bringing infrastructure money while he was at BT&H and Calrans. We have partnered with families like the Knox family to make sure that infrastructure is here so that when development did come that we have the in infrastructure for it. This project brings much infrastructure that's needed to not only better its own project but to also help the surrounding community. Um there's a lot of housing programs and opportunities here and we give you our commitment.

Thank you. Karolina Kanas.

Good evening, Mayor and C city council. I'm reading a letter of support for Chase. Um, dear council members, this letter is to provide our support to the project as we feel it would be a great addition to the community as a whole. Chase has been approached many times by the mayor and economic development groups expressing their desire to have a Chase bank in the community where we have none today. They expressed that the community has been quite vocal to a Chase branch in Paris so they do not have to drive to Marino Valley to do their banking. Chase is the only major bank to not have a presence in Paris. Chase is anxious to be a part of this project and we have agreed to terms for space within Harvest Landing to make this a reality provided the city approvals are received in a timely fashion. Sincerely, Ronald J. Chester, market director of real estate. Thank you.

Thank you, Hector Lewis. Thank you, sir. Thank you, Alex Madrid. Thank you. Thank you, Jose Osuna Fisado.

Good afternoon, council members and mayor Vargas. My name is Jose Nalo. I'm a resident of nine years, a full-time co and I'm also a full-time college student at NBC and I'd like to talk to you all directly about Harvest Landing. And I don't think building new warehouses is the answer when in the city and in the Inland Empire, there are plenty of warehouses for sale which could use a new owner. When looking at the original draft for Harvest Landing, I thought it looked great as it as it provided a mixeduse development containing both commercial and housing nearby, which is sustainable in the long run without a warehouse. However, I'm nervous about what's going to happen if the new design gets accepted as the city will continue to adopt old urban planning techniques by building big box retail and rob the city of our precious resource land by building new warehouses. Council members, once we place down fences and private property signs, it's going to be a lot harder to get that land back. Please consider what the residents actually want. And thank you.

Thank you. The next five, Omar Cobian.

Thank you. Gabriella Valencia, Daniel Gonzalez, Julio Flores, Nanette Placencia, Gabriella Valencia. Hi, good evening, mayor and city council. My name is Gabriella Valencia and I'm part of Lacademia soccer community here in Paris. I support Harvest Landing. I've been a resident of Paris for way over 30 years. The only thing we've had is sizzlers and the movie theaters and now we don't even have the movie theaters. So, as growing family with my children here, I'm tired of sending my money to Meny and Marino Valley and surrounding areas. My three children play soccer here. So, we're very excited with the support that we're receiving. On behalf of Lacademia, I respectfully ask that you approve Harvest Landing.

Thank you. Thank you. Daniel Gonzalez. Good evening. My name is Daniel Gonzalez and I am support of this project because personally, I've been a resident of four years and I'm tired of seeing an empty dirt lot every time I have to go to Food for Less. So, please approve this project. Thank you. Thank you. Julio Flores. Thank you, Julio. Nanencia.

Let's stop sugar coating this. This developer is not investing in our city. He's extracting from it. He bought land that was not zoned for uh any warehouses. um fully expecting this council um to change the rules so he could maximize profits for his multi-million dollar corporation. He knew exactly what he was go doing when he bought this property. The land was not zoned for industrial use. It was meant for commercial and residential purposes, no warehouses. And yet somehow we're now talking about changing the rules for him. How is that a win for our city? He already We already live in a city overwhelmed by warehouses from our homes to our streets. We see them everywhere. And don't be misled. This is not just one warehouse for phase one. A yes vote tonight guarantees more of these warehouses when the moratorum ends. Once this land is gone, it's gone forever. We lose one of the last areas in our city without warehouses. This is the real cost of this decision. This vote belongs to you. you will thank you Nette.

Thank you Nette. Thank you. The next five Ishmael Gonzalez, Tatiana Flores, Hain Castas, Miguel M, Yolanda Marquez. Yes. Okay.

All right. Good evening once again. My name is Asuan Gonzalez, member of Sarah Club and the Len Valley Alliance for Environmental Justice. I'm in opposition to uh Harvest Landing. I do support progress right in Paris. You you need it and you want it. I get it. But they're about to sneak in a partial hub, right? Uh with all due respect, I was here the at the planning commission uh November 17th. uh Commissioner Harmon sat right there and told your legal aid, your your city attorney, what's the definition to warehouse, right? And there was this mental gymnastics uh basically to uh define a new a new logistical uh facility, partial hub. you if you vote tonight in favor of Harvest Landing, you are setting precedent for all the other cities around here, including your future selves where you are opening up the door to other parcel hubs, uh, other warehouses, because let's not forget it. FedEx, what is their business? Logistics. And guess what? Logistics demands warehousing.

Thank you. Thank you,

Tatiana Flores. Good evening. Thank you for the opportunity to speak. I I'm speaking in opposition to the project. This project and its EIR failed to adequately address cumulative health impacts. Paris and surrounding areas are already overburdened with logistics. Parcel hubs and distribution facilities. It only brings in more pollution, diesel truck traffic noise, and public health stressors. And the EIR itself acknowledges the potentially significant and unavoidable air quality impacts that this project will have on the implementation of not only the air quality plan but also the net increase of any air um criteria pollutant and exposures to sensitive recep receptors through its air quality impacts. EJ partners and residents have been clear even before planning commission that logistics parcel hubs and similar industrial uses should not be continued during MBU zoning. Yet these changes do not explicitly prohibit those uses in future phases. And without clear in writing, this project opens up the opportunity for that. And we see that this will

Thank you. Cast.

Good evening, staff, city council, community members. Uh my name is Hogen Castillos. with the Center for Community Action Environmental Justice. But I'm here first as a Bloomington resident. Um, someone who has seen the destruction of false promises and of projects like we see today. Um, it feels like I'm in a deja vu right now seeing the shirts that say I support this project and and talking about all the promises that were made and what's happening now with Bloomington. look at the all the destruction and we have no warehouse and you're you're you're trusting on an EIR when we've seen in the past that the ERS are faulty and that's why there was a lawsuit and that's why this developer lost. Um and I'm asking you today to stand with the with the community of Paris, stand with the future of the health and safety of the community and vote no against this project. Vote no against another Howard and Howard industrial project unless they change everything, you know. Yeah,

Miguel M. Um, hello. My name is Miguel Moira. I am actually neighbor. Um, I'm from Bloomington and I'm here as not supporting this project because I've also been in these spaces where we the community was promised something so beautiful. Um, we were promised jobs. um and the con like the consequences of having warehouses attached to this um like these necessities that we need, right? We do need markets. We do need uh that walkable city. Um it sets a precedent that has affected that will affect generations to come. My example is that I've lived in Bloomington for so long and now it's surrounded by warehouses because of this precedent that was set. Now I have to deal every day with the consequences of that. Traffic increases and then the the roads get messed up and then there's no money to fix those roads and I'm the one that suffers the most, right? And generations to come will suffer the most. So please consider those things and vote no. Thank you.

Thank you. Yolanda Marquez. The next five. Franco Pacheco, Voleta Aguilar, Fernando Gonzalez, Veronica Dwarte, Ashley Barton.

Hi, my name is Franco Pacheco with the New Valley Alliance and uh Paris Neighbors in Action. Uh we're opposed to the parcel hub aspect of this project and uh we urge the council to do their due diligence. uh putting them in writing. The soccer field, that's all good ideas, but we'd want to see that first. Uh the residential that's being removed is an issue. We need to make sure that um we get the things that they're that are being promised. And I want to point out that, you know, I've lived in Paris for over 30 years, and this is the last exit in Paris that doesn't have a warehouse directly when you get off of it. So, think about that when you're giving up this land. that could be even more commercial. You want to put commercial next to the freeway. Why would you put another big giant warehouse there? So, please demand more of this developer just like you guys did with Alabasi and that project he did. He revised it and we got everything we wanted out of it. So, uh please make a right decision tonight. Thank you.

Thank you, Vleta Gillar. I would actually like to say it in Spanish if I could have a translator if that's okay. Sure. Or I can say,

honorable council, My name is Vleta Aguilar. My team was part of the initial of the initial effort in 2021 on the community survey of the community survey. Um we had thousands of conversations and we received more than 1,800 surveys

from res residents that wanted to share with everyone what they wanted to see in the community partners. Since then, we have worked with Howard Industrial Partners. Vanessa development. the developer Vanessa Delgado and their company

with our commercial brokers to bring national concepts that you see today in the proposed and at the same time with our community with our local business community

with the middle schools with our community colleges, with our universities to make sure that this project realizes the economic impact that our community deserves more than the benefits and the jobs that we see. Thank you.

Thank you, Fernando Gonzalez. Good evening, uh, mayor and city councilman. My name is Fernando Gonzalez. I am a, uh, soccer coach here in the city of Paris. I I live here in Paris. I've been coaching with La Academia for a couple years now. Um, one of our biggest uh, issues, as mentioned earlier by one of our members, was the uh, housing the 2,00 families uh, with the limited spacing that we have in the park. And so looking at this project, um super excited to have more space to uh coach these kids, uh to also not have to go out of our city to uh to host to go to tournaments and and instead host them in our city. And so with that being said, I am in support of this project.

Thank you,

Veronica Dwarte. Good evening, major and counselor. I'm going to do it in English, so please be patient. Um, I'm a supporter. Um, and I'm being here for um, I live in the city of Paris for almost 20 years. And I have faith and I trust on Harvest Landing that this is going to be something positive for the young people because there's there's a lot of mental ill people especially even my children because we don't have um, no sometimes they need to go far. or I need to take them far. And for me to see this is so I'm so h happy and I have faith and we need to trust them and please I support Harvest Landing please both yes for this project.

Thank you. Madam clerk, can you call the ones that from the beginning that did not respond? Just give them one more opportunity. Okay. I have the last six. Do you want me to do these first? I want you to call the ones that did not respond. Give them an opportunity to come up if they in case they were in the uh gym. Okay. Carlos Pacheco, Yolanda Marquez. That's it. Okay. Call the last six.

Ashley Barton. Okay. The last six. Carla Cvantes. Katherine Alvarez, Janet Bernab, Aurelia Korea, Mike McCarthy, Brian Faulner. Good evening, council. I implore you, uh, my name is Carlos here with Sierra Club and Valley Alliance, Paris Neighbors Action. Employe to support this project because the community was promised one thing is now being given something entirely different. The original harvest landing specific plan clearly prohibited housing in the MBU zone. Now suddenly housing is being added as a permitted use without clear disclosure. That is a fundamental change, not a minor tweak. We were promised balanced residential and commercial development. Instead, we're being asked to convert large portions of residential and commercial land into industrial use. While being told housing can just be allowed inside NBU to make up for that. Now, that preservation of housing capacity, that's a workaround. If housing is truly the goal, then zone it residential. Don't bury it inside an industrial designation that could later be used for something else. Promises made and presentations are not b like binding zoning is for. So ask for that. The community deserves transparency, consistency, and adherence to the original plan. Neighbors, if you guys are listening, I know he's made a lot of promises. Look at the promises that he made in Bloomington and really start poking holes in these kind of developments. Thank you.

Thank you, Aurelio Korea. Good evening, mayor. Good evening, councilman. Uh, my name is Aurelia Korea. I am part of La Academia Soccer Club. Um, we within our organization, we have over 2,000 families that play here uh are with us in the city. Unfortunately, every weekend we had to outsource to fields in the city of Marina Valley, the city of Manify just to accommodate them to play. So looking at this project, I completely approve I'm completely with them with the opportunity to be able to have those 2,000 families players stay within the city limits and not have to travel, spend money in other cities, and we be able to host them here. Um, like I said, I'm 100% behind the project and I hope you guys could help out those families as well. Thank you guys.

Thank you. Katherine Alvarez, Janet Bernab.

Hi, good evening. I know we have one minute. Um, so good evening, mayor, staff, and community. My name is Janet Perav. as a 30-year resident and former student of the Valvery Unified School District, which currently my daughter, nieces, and current um attend Valverie Elementary School, Triple Crown, and Orange Vista. Overall, I'm here this evening to urge the council to review this proposal and reconsider to deny the relocation of the Valver Unified School District. This is not the best for our community. as a former student and advocate in many areas in the community, especially in education. I started my journey at the Valver Unified School District um specifically at the Valver Elementary School at the age of nine in 1994. So, I've been here for 30 years. I urge again the council to look at this because this already creates a president. Um I love and I urge you to reconsider especially what happened in Bloomington. Please reconsider community when you open up the

Thank you. Mike McCarthy.

Good evening, city council mayor. Uh Mike McCarthy, Sierra Club Box Springs Group co-conservation chair. First, I'd like to thank you all for passing the good neighbor guidelines and the industrial warehouse moratorium. You've really changed the vibes of the region and you guys are the leaders. You helped my city of Riverside pass a good neighbor guidelines that was weaker. So, I thank you because my city council sucks. Um, onto this project. Sierra Club proposes this project. We're asking for a continuation and recirculation of the EIR. So, what Tim Howard said here could be put in writing because it's not in the EIR. I read the EIR. I read the development agreement. That's not what we're talking about. Uh, this is an unstable project plan. It was is the technical term. It's not allowed under SQL to change it a whole bunch of times and not analyze for it. And that's what they've done. Uh, additionally, you are in violation of state housing law SB330. the no net loss provisions. You cannot remove 1,200 housing units without putting them somewhere. You got to put those somewhere. Uh lastly, uh make any industrial covenants run with the land. Make sure that if he promises there to be housing, if he promises there to be a hospital, put it in writing and that would make us happy. Thank you.

Thank you. Brian Faulner.

Good evening, mayor, council. Uh my name is Brian Faulner. I represent hundreds of uh international union of operating engineer local 12 members that live with inside your city limits. Uh the city of Paris has a community workforce agreement, a full building trades community workforce agreement. Why would you exclude 12 other uh trades? If you want quality built structures, you don't exclude any trade but include every trade. So with uh I I do uh support this project with the caveat of including all building trades and not just two building trades. Thank you. Thank you. That is all.

All right, that takes us exactly to our hour mark and we went through all the guest speakers. So that's great. All right. Uh going to come to the uh going to close the public hearing at 9:05 and go back to the deas for discussion. Please queue in if you want if you want to speak. Councilwoman Nea.

Thank you, mayor. So, I'll go ahead and get right into it. I'd first like to thank each and every one of the speakers showing up at tonight's council meeting. I also want to thank those who participated in the planning commission meeting. I also tuned in and watched that and it was a six-hour long meeting. I'm sure some of you were there as well. Um, so now I'm going to jump into a few questions and concerns that I should that I believe should be on record. So question number one, are we able to ask this directly to the applicant or Yeah. Okay. Well, who do you want to ask? You

Mr. Howard himself. All right. So, Mr. Howard, these questions will be directed to you to begin with. What is the reasoning for breaking up the project into two phases? Because I know that was a point of concern for the speakers tonight and why wasn't the hospital you mentioned during your presentation written down as part of that agreement? Sure. It was um broken into two phases because um under the the way the project was studied that was the uh allocation of space. It's really geography. And tell me your second question.

Why wasn't the hospital you verbally promised tonight listed as part of this project or written written any part of Well, the uh discussions that we're having with the hospital are ongoing.

We don't have a we don't have uh letters of intent like we have with with Sprouts or Chase or any of those people. Um we're working on it. So, um, you know, that's what we're endeavoring to bring. Um, we're going to do our best to do that. Um, regardless, we're not going to put a warehouse there. So, once we agreed to that, we needed to come with with an alternate use. The hospital use is large enough that they can take the uh 50 acres out alongside the freeway. And from the discussions that we've had, that's that's that's their first location, unless they need to to go larger, then it would locate next to next to FedEx.

Okay. Um and so another question I have was regarding the planning commission meeting. One of the commissioners mentioned how your marketing strategy was marketing strategy was in was disingenuous as far as promoting the commercial but listing the parcel hub as a second thought. Do you have any any feedback on that? Because I know you've done a lot of community outre Yeah, sure. What I would tell you is um if you u if you look at the development like I said overall so they're all legs of a of a chair, right? And so, um, one can't can't survive without the other. Obviously, the the FedEx is is a big employment driver and that's always been part of the project. I'm not sure that it was never part of the project. And then what we tried to do is listen to um the prior council um about bringing u the restaurants and better retail opportunities. And so, all of those are in writing. I don't know where people are getting this idea that they're not.

If you look at the let me just let me just finish on them. If you look at the development conditions, um the art is contained there. The land subsidy is contained there. The the park features are contained there within the water quality basin. The public infrastructure is included there. So all of this is in is in writing.

Okay. So during tonight's meeting when you showed the parcel hub, we saw renderings. If we could have it pull up those renderings, we saw renderings of trees of a a portion of what would you assume be a warehouse. At any point in time, you didn't share the aerial. We don't have an aerial. We don't have nighttime view. I think we have we have both a site plan. We don't have the views of what it would look like exiting the freeway. We are missing all those renderings. So even tonight, I would argue that you've you missed showing the the magnitude of this project. Sure.

Um I'm Are we still waiting for it to pull up those renderings, Kenneth? If you want, I can.

And most specifically, I would like for it to pull up a rendering, an aerial view. I want our community and all those um here to see how big this project is compared to the existing commercial we already have. And I I'd like you to get a better view. So while it is pulling those up, I don't I don't want to take too much time, but I definitely do want that to be uh a critical point in the decision- making tonight. So um yeah, that's not the parcel hub. that and that's the only map that I've seen circulating

as much as I did. Fred, I didn't see aerial views. So, in other projects, we see views from the north side POV, we see from south, we see from all angles. Here's the here's the elevation. If you go back one slide, keep going back. roof truss the screening. Okay. Site overhead. No worries. I don't think we're able to pull those up tonight. No, no, we we just passed it. It's coming. We have We have it. There it is.

There's the uh aerial view of the the property. And so what you saw in in the planning presentation is that the u the parcel hub is sunken down. It's out of view from from both the freeway and frontage road. Um so what you were seeing in the perspectives of the of the trees and the landscape is what's visible from the street itself. So again um the the uh parcel hub is sunken uh down in order to minimize the exposure of any uh truck or loading operations from the street. So you won't see them. So, so even here, uh, I would like a terrain image pulled out just to get a better picture. Again, you're zooming in and as a council member, I'm responsible for sharing the big picture. So, we'll move on from that point.

Yeah. Here's an aerial view of the overall project and then I have the site plan. Uh, and there's a there's a site plan for the entire for the entire uh project area. Now, remember this is 358 acres. So, it's a big it's a big uh area. Okay. I just really wanted um folks to know. Here's the distances from from uh sensitive receptors. You can see they're all over 1500 ft and we're 2200 feet from the residential.

I'm sure residents who live here in the city of Paris when they drive by these big boxes are astonished. So, I I wanted them to get a better picture even though these pictures don't do it justice when you're out driving in your community. So, and I have a few more points to make. Uh the final EIR still contemplates future warehousing on this project site. It describes warehouse and logistic buildings and its impact caused by 4 million square feet of warehousing. This project has been unstable and changed multiple times. Even leading up to tonight's council meeting, we saw a change happen. So, why wasn't the environmental impact report not recirculated for public comment for this last proposal?

I'd have to defer to our consultants and um let them answer that. Thank you. Charlie, do you want to jump in or Megan? This is Megan Truman from EPD. She's uh responsible for the circulation and the authorship of um the great majority of the environmental impact report. Thank you.

Good evening, mayor, members of the city council. My name is Megan Truman with EPD Solutions. As Tim mentioned, I prepared the draft EIR and the final EIR that was circulated for public review. So in terms of the project that's here before you, it was analyzed as an alternative within the EIR. So there was a very thorough analysis conducted into the potential impacts resulting from this alternative to the proposed project in terms of the EIR including warehousing uses. Those were analyzed conservatively as part of the EIR. However, the specific plan no longer permits any warehousing uses. So the EIR is really conservative compared to what would actually occur when this project is developed and likely overstates impacts. However, going back to the proposed plan tonight that was analyzed within the ES alternative 4 which is recommended by staff.

Okay. Thank you. So do you want to just reiterate that? Uh yeah. So um as I mentioned, there are no warehouses currently permitted within this specific plan. So even though they were analyzed as part of the EIR, any potential warehouse use would have to come back to planning commission and city council as a specific plan amendment and would have to conduct SQA analysis at that time. So no warehouse could go in without a further analysis by city staff and by the city council.

So that would kick off an entirely new environmental impact report or would it just be an add-on? It would be an additional SQA analysis into what the warehouse where it's located where it's proposed not separate not not a whole new it it's an addition like like the one it would be a whole new SQA process. Okay.

Okay. Thank you. So, another point I have is that the original Harvest Landing specific plan states that housing is prohibited in the MBU zoning, but the one we are voting on today suddenly states that housing is permitted. Now, this question is better directed to staff. Could we elaborate on that as far as housing being allowed in an MBU?

So, originally when the project started, um it was not envisioned to have housing in the MBU designation. However, as the pro as the project uh evolved, um the MBU designation now allows for housing to be developed um throughout that that designation. So, it it is a an an allowed use for a permitted use and MBU zone.

When was that change made into effect? um when it was first originally um um proposed is when when when they started with the with the um with the warehouses um with the six warehouses and the um parcel hub and the commercial development that's when uh residential development was not permitted in the MBU. Okay. But as the project evolved prior to planning commission um consideration, the um specific plan was amended to allow residential uses in the MBU designation. Um so who was responsible for making those amendments? Wouldn't that have to gone through some type of oversight either planning or

But the planning commission the planning commission considered that. So, the project was um revised prior to planning commission consideration. So, you're telling me that the planning commission made that decision that night? The planning commission considered a project which allowed residential uses in MBU zone. Real quickly, oh, go ahead.

Yes. There there is a provision uh in this specific plan that allows MBU there's an underlying land use that's that keeps and retains that residential density because there's a state guideline that states that you can't remove residential density unless you remove it somewhere else but what u what is proposed is that residential density stays still it will still be in place in the event that the remaining MBU does not develop to commercial that residential land use remains means and one of the reasons for that is SB330 has a has a sunset clause which means it expires at 2030 and so any project within this time frame when that law be came into effect any project that comes in through that time frame has to either relocate somewhere else or keep the residential density in the underlying zone and that met the requirement of the law

if I if I may if I may. So, this hasn't been approved yet. This is under review and part of the proposed amendment to the specific plan. The planning commission made a recommendation at the request of the de developer to allow for residential uses to comply with the SB 1333. Um, but this has not been approved yet. It was recommended for approval. So, it's still subject to approval tonight.

So, just to clarify then it has not been approved. This is what is going to be voted tonight. Yeah. And in essence, this this MBU movement is just a catchall, right? The developer is not responsible for building these homes. I think it's about 1300 homes. That is correct. Not at this time, but they have the option to do it.

Got it. All right. Again, these are for the record. All right. And then another question I have, uh, this, uh, this last minute revision that we're reviewing tonight, moving the housing in the northeast, uh, corner, is that consistent with the truck route planning or because that's now also a a sensitive receptor. Correct. If they're moved to towards that MBU,

um, soish road um is considered a truck route under the current harvest landing specific plan. So by just leaving it at the front road to potential but centria is a truck route. So it keeps that consistency there. But as for your question in terms of the residential that's currently um that's being not necessarily proposed because what they're doing is under that existing underlying area. It is already zoned residential. They're just carving out that area keeping it remaining it consistent with what was previously approved. So, it's not necessarily changing, but it's just carving out that area to keep it with what was previously approved previously. That makes sense.

Well, since we're moving those residential homes, 1300 of them, wouldn't that kick into effect a whole new revision of the truck route? Um, that wouldn't do it because um because Placentia is already a truck route. So uh the way the truck route works is that you need to try to avoid residential area but the the truck route is

what about residential and per se uh frontage because that this what's showing on my screen here we're thinking of moving the homes there too for residential. Correct. So wouldn't that trigger the frontage side? um because all the MVUs are for commercial office and of those nature those are not subject to the truck route because the way um the truck route AB called AB98 is that you need to travel along an area that's 50% or greater commercial. So if the if you leave that MBU the way they're proposed right now, it would comply with that that truck route circulation map. But aren't we throwing in those additional homes into that MBU space? Um,

isn't that part of the proposal? Um, so the MBU, the balance of MU is not for warehouses anymore. So that wouldn't be like a truck route, if that makes sense. It could be a hospital. It could be a hotel. It could be another expansion shopping center. Isn't a hotel? Um, okay. Well, that's where Okay. I'm just I'm just making the point that we should reconsider the truck route planning. Um, I know there's been several changes, but that should be a point of major concern for our council. Um, and then back to Mr. Howard, the image you showed during your presentation, the renderings of the home, is that actually what they're going to look like. Yeah. Yes.

Because that was beautiful. And I know our our our participants here, we all ooed and awed, but the homes again, you said you're working with the builder. Is is that exactly what you would what you and the builder are planning on bringing? Yes, that's what um Mr. Wolf submitted. So, we're Okay, if we could pull up that image. So, we expect these homes to have Can you bring up my They're full yards, backyards. We're not looking at town homes. No, no, these are threebedroom, two bath homes. It can you please uh bring up the applicant's presentation? Thank you. Let me let me get on this. Um, Council Member

Nava. So, um, those are that's a three-bedroom, two bath home with, again, what I what we're trying to do, what Kevin and I are trying to do is tie this architectural theme, if you will to um what we're doing in the the commercial. So, what we're trying to do is give Paris an identity. I think if we if we deliver this, we've we've we've accomplished that. So these are existing types of homes.

Um they they they are uh readily available in terms of um we're going to embrace some some some new uh construction techniques and this is what the elevations are. But the the it's somewhere down along the lines you shared home the neighborhood rendering. Do you could we move forward to that one? Yeah, that was just to give you six 615 homes and that's what that represents. But is that is that one of the exact renderings of we what you would expect to bring to this area or is this just an illustration? No, it's it's representative of 615 homes and these are the actual homes.

Okay. So, that image really has no merit. We don't know that the lot sizes of the homes you're pl planning on bringing. We don't know whether that's that's the number of homes that that we're proposing and that's the what they would look like from from the computer's perspective. Do you have tenative track maps for those homes?

That's you see um when we make our application within 45 days of approval of this project that's part of the of the pre-application process. There will be a civil engineer brought on board which we have who's here in the audience tonight and he would prepare that map that would be reviewed by staff in engineering and then they issue conditions for that map. Now remember the underlying zoning is is for homes. So these would be by right and so the the process is a lot it won't take the six years that this has taken. It'll be a lot um quicker.

Okay. So, um, another question I have, uh, FedEx workers, right? We're looking at the FedEx website. Do you know what the majority of those workers titles would be or the pay that they're looking? Yes. Um, so there are a number of uh people that that make up the FedEx team.

Um, again, that's that's forecasted to be 850 people that are FedEx employees. the full-time employees receive health benefits, etc. Okay. And and that's what I spoke to. The the average wage in in this facility, if you go to the one in H in Anaheim, is 2775. Now, if you were 18 and and right out of high school, it may be less, but the average wage within the Anaheim facility, actual wage is 2775. Okay. And that's all I have.

Okay. Um, if we look at the FedEx website, the package handler listed as part-time warehouse like work for this type for this type of a they still include benefits and whatnot, but it's very similar to this type of part-time warehouse-like work. They're livable well basically are stating that jobs start off at $20, which I could foresee that being the majority of the workforce that would be working this facility. I'm sorry. I'm sorry if my questionings are are troubling you. But I also I am held responsible to my community to make sure that our residents have livable wages. We heard from the unions that they get paid very very well and those are great respectable jobs, but guess what? Who who can afford to get into a new home with the even union even wage labor? So again, um you're promising jobs that really won't do much to our to our community here. So, I have additional comments, but I think I I've really done enough for now. And I I hope you catch a break because you seem like you're a little bit frustrated. So, not at all. I'll move on.

Not at all. You know, I want to thank you for and I want to thank the entire uh community for for pushing me to do better. And I think what we're delivering is is um first class um from a development standpoint. So I I will continue to listen to you and I appreciate you pushing me and asking the hard questions. Thank you.

Yeah. Because for you this is one night of deliberation, but myself and our residents, this is a lifetime commitment and you can come here and offer what it is that you're offering. And it seems that even just tonight that frustration, what about the frustration of our residents that have to see this day in and day out? you can't even compose yourself for one line of questionings. Like that just shows me your character, what you feel about our community. That that symbolizes a lot. And again, I I will take some space and allow my council to continue on with this discussion. Thank you. All right. Who would like to speak next?

Councilman Rab. This is a question for staff regarding the initial uh harvest landing plan. Can you hear me now? You know, something with this mic. It's always been going off. You got to speak into it. It's like the second time that mic has been going off. I don't know if you guys have been watching the meetings. Uh, Mr. Fun, regarding the initial plans uh for the initial harvest landing that was approved under the Codoris family. Do you have I saw it in the the staff report and the initial uh presentation. Can you bring that up? Yes. It can you bring up staff's presentation and please bring it to slide I believe number two where it shows

uh the previous specific plan which would be slide number three which is existing specific plan. Next we develop a proposed specific plan. Um can you go to one more further? this one. That's perfect. Thank you. Okay. The land that's designated MBU, the purple land in that area, when this plan was approved, were warehouses permitted in that space? Uh, they were permitted subject to a cup of their over 100,000 square feet.

Okay. And if we were to just hypothetical, if we were to vote this particular project down today, this would still be the existing plan as of now. That's correct. And the developer would still be able to put warehouses in that MBU land or would it be prohibited? Uh they would be permitted to do it. Um if it's under 100,000 square feet, they could go through staff through a DPR. If there were over 100,000, it would be a CUP application for that.

Okay. And would the good neighbor policies that we enacted or increased in Jan December and January, would they apply to that area or would he be under the previous developmental agreement? Uh I need to review the specific harvest land specific plan. I'm not positive because it was approved before the code changes and so and this is part of a specific so those regulation might not apply for those that project it would no we didn't we didn't amend the specific plan to include the new changes. So it'd be subject to its own standards under the specific plan. Do you remember the year that this was approved? I want to say it was in the 2000s. 2000 2012 2012 I was here.

And then do we have the renderings that Mr. Howard initially proposed? I think it was 2018 or 2019. Um it was like the initial project number four. It wasn't number four. That was there was one in between that like way back.

It can you bring it to the next slide please? I Okay, here it is. So, this was the initial concept that he presented be before us. That was uh there was another one that I saw. I want to say it was 2018 2019. It was a lot more warehouses than that. Do you remember that one, Council? Um I do. You remember that, Mr. I don't have an exhibit for that one. I do clearly remember that one. Okay. It was horrendous. And then this one is the one um the one on the left is the one that was the plan that you were presenting up until about this fall. Was that is that correct, Mr. Howard? Yes, sir. Okay.

That was um what we were presenting uh before the moratorum. And I think what you're talking about was our initial 2018 uh plan that had 4 and a.5 million feet of warehouse space on the north side of um Placentia. Okay. And then the proposed project at the PC was the one that you presented in front of the project planning commission in December mid December of 20 uh 25. Correct. Yes sir. Okay. And regarding uh Mr. Fun, would you be able to bring that map up showing the new good neighbor policies that are in uh in effect? Uh I don't have that slot. Oh, this uh I think I have it actually.

Oh yeah. Yeah. Let me uh actually that that's an extra slide. It can you if I can get a remote I think it might have it too. It has a more expanded. Mr. Howard, you can have a seat. Kenneth, I could I can access it. Um, can you go? There's an extra one. Let me uh It should be slide number 30 right there. So per our good neighbor policy, warehouses would not would be prohibited in the MPU land if we were to approve this today. That's correct. Right.

Okay. And do you have the strike that for now? Can't think of any more questions at the moment, but that was just my concern is that the good neighbor policy that's currently in effect, if we were to approve this today, there wouldn't be any room to put any other additional warehouses in this area. And additionally, the MBU that's being presented today would specifically prohibit warehouses. That's correct. Okay. Thank you, Councilman Corona.

Thank you, Mayor. Um, just question for staff. Uh, I I think Councilman Rabbit did ask the question that is the the land right now is currently zoned MBU. So will a partial hub be an acceptable use for the current air area designated as MBU? The current Yes. Um but it's only limited to one per the U plan commission direction. Okay. So So they cannot so they cannot have another parcel hub anywhere anywhere in the whole harvest landing. Uh yes, that's in the condition of approval. That's in the condition of approval. Okay. Um and the specific plan too, we asked them to update the specific plan to also refer to only one parcel hub.

Okay. Uh for specifically I guess for the commercial aspect of it because I I think I think you know um I think it's very clear you know with the residents and and especially with the council that that we don't really object I I haven't heard any objection for the commercial, right? I think this something we all want, right? So, so that's not really what the what the controversial issue here, but it is important to make sure that the commercial aspect is is in place and it's going to keep in place because we have had developers in the past. They come here and they promise this and they told us, "Hey, I'm going to build this and then they give us something way inferior, right? And then we're just left with with well I guess you know um it's it's happened more than once and and I could I could if you talk to me later I'll tell you exactly what projects um but how many commercials must be built before the before the postal hub receives a certificate of occupancy

uh up to 75,000 square feet of the commercial. Okay. And then the real quickly the the all the parking lot landscaping has to be constructed with that too. All of it. Okay. So, so the buildings have to be constructed. The 75,000 square feet have to be constructed, but do they have to be occupied? Yes, there has to be open and operational. Okay. How big is a is a the proposed Sam's Club? Um, I believe that's like over 100,000. I have to verify that's So So that's not one of the one of the I thought it was supposed to be three, but but then then I saw somewhere in there. I guess it's the the option is 75,000 or three tenants. Or three tenants. Correct. So it could be three small tenants.

It could be three smaller tenants. That is correct. And and that might be less than 75,000. Um that that is correct. How big is the the the the proposed Sam's Club? Let me It's 167,000 ft. How big? 167,000 square feet. 167. And how big is the the chase? The proposed chase 4,000 square feet. No. Oh, 4,000. Okay. Somehow I heard four 400. Okay. And how big is the the proposed marshalss?

I don't have the the plan that shows the location. Approximately 25,000.

25,000. Okay. Now, I say this because all three of those actually uh called me and told me that they they they plan on coming, that they're going to come. And so, I I don't see a reason why we can't make that as as the uh the bare minimum for for what needs to be acceptable for for the postal hub to be occupied, right? I mean, I mean, they're expecting to come, right? So, we shouldn't have a problem with at least those three. Um, now I I do know that you mentioned in entertainment and and I'm very happy and everyone's got excited. I'm I'm I'm excited about that. I mean, we that's requested. Um, right now we have a a letter of intent that we have right here. Is that is that when is would that be expected to come in the whole process? Is that something I mean I guess I Yeah, I'm I was going to ask you a question later on, but why don't you come on up, Mr. AB? Absolutely.

Yeah. So, Council Member Corona, um that's that would be um coming into uh the plaza area, which is at the corner of Orange and Paris Boulevard. Those are those small tiny buildings that you see up on the what would be the the northeast side of the project. That's the area that I spoke of that's connected by the PO to the to the residential area. Is there currently a building on the on the actual map for that or is that would that be an additional building? No, that that building exists which it's a back one. It's in I I think the best place is um this isn't my proposal but I don't know what happened.

Can you switch to the applicant's uh slide? If we could I can point I can point you right right to it. Thank you. Okay. Here I can take it from here. So, Council Member Corona, um, can you see the where where the U Buffalo Wild Wings arrow is pointing at at the restaurant? Oh, in that area. So, those four buildings is where we would accommodate that. And so, we need to do space planning and but but that's where that's where we would we would direct them to go.

Okay. And and you're talking to you're talking to act one or someone like act one or are you talking it's actually it's act one. Yeah that would be act one. Yeah one you know act one builds the park. So that's why round one council member corona. Okay. Let me let me clarify that because it said like in in this letter. So that's m uh Kevin Mr. Wolf jump in just Mr. Wolf just stand right there. I just want to confirm this is round one that wants to come here. Round one. Yes. That's awesome. Been asking for that for quite a while. You asked for it and and we're delivering. Got it.

All right. And then uh according to you, I mean, we're saying we're saying three three commercials have to be built or uh six uh 75 75,000. Which ones are coming first? Which ones which ones can you guarantee that you could say yes? These ones you spoke to Sam's. Yes. No, they left me a message. Okay. Yeah, but but you've heard from them. Yeah. If I'm uh if I'm betting, I I would assume that they've been chomping at the bit more than

than anyone else, Council Member Corona. And so my my bet is that that comes on first. Now, remember what I told you is they're they're acquiring that land for the their own account. This will be an owned facility by Sam's. Okay? And then with the with the Marshalls, they I mean Marshall, it was a TJ company. So they own TJ Maxx, HomeGoods, and Marshalls. Marshalls. Yeah. But but yeah, but I I say this because we've had people say, "Hey, we're going to bring you Miguel Jr." And they bring us Taco Bell. Not you, but other people have done other developers standing exactly where you're at right now. Yeah.

Have said that to us. So I shared the letters of in I shuttered I shared the letters of intent with you, right? You can see who is letterheads there on and you can see that those are in writing. Okay. And if they don't come then what do we have asurances from our staff? Is that part of the conditions? Um there's no um assurance in terms of the actual tenant um other than the architecture, the building square footage, and they're concurrent that they'll build out the entire shopping center, the parking lot, landscaping, and all that. But the buildings don't have to be built, just the three the 60 the 75,000 square feet total. That needs to get built. That's the minimum. Yes,

that's the minimum. Yeah. Okay. I think council member Corona if I can clarify the commercial shopping center needs to be constructed at the same time as the parcel hub. That means the whole center not right in order to issue occupancy of the parcel hub at least 75,000 square feet of the retail or three tenants will need to be operational will need to be operational but the whole entire the whole commercial shopping center needs to be constructed in conjunction with the parcel hub. Okay. And that's written in the conditions that's in the in the in the development agreement which is a contract.

Okay. All right. Okay. Um the traffic signals uh uh Mr. uh Porazami where where for the residents where where where are those going to be located at? Um I think they're actually in the exhibits in the conditions. Uh I believe you just tell us the intersections. I think the uh I can't see the name of the roadways here. Let me refer to the conditions. No, no, I do. I do say this because partly because when I read it, it's very hard for us to see it too.

Actually, I have them in the conditions. Councilman Corona.

Yeah. Okay.

Uh, okay. Councilman Corona, they're actually listed on telling us a page number is not going to help. Just tell us what it is. Tell you. Okay. We don't have what you have.

So, Paris Boulevard and Harvest Landing Way. Paris Boulevard and Orange Avenue. Orange Avenue and Spectrum Center. These are the uh locations. And then Orange Avenue and Barrett, Orange Avenue and Indian, Frontage Road and Barrett, Frontage Road and Private Drive, A Frontage Road and Orange Avenue, Placentia and Frontage Road and these are the ones. Okay, thank you. Um, I guess my next questions are going to be for Mr. Howard. Um, so with with the with the commercial, I I do want to say I'm I'm very impressed with it. I'm sure our residents are too. And and uh you know, I'm sure if it was just a commercial, we'd be done in five minutes, right? But that's that's not what what what's also coming with us. But I I do want to ask, a resident did bring this up. How long have you owned that property for?

Eight years. Eight years. And when you bought that, did you know that it was uh mostly residential, zoned residential? Um, we had the u the MBU designation along Frontage Road and yes, we knew that there was a residential component to it. Did you know that the majority was residential? Yes. Okay. But you still bought it with the with the anticipation of building residential or to reszone it? We've always approached this as a multi-use business park. Okay. Mostly warehouse originally, right? I mean that that's what you brought up, right?

Yeah. Originally along the MBU, we thought we could extend it out and then things changed. We went through COVID and here we are today with no warehouses. And so what we're trying to do is, you know, with the with the ability to designate that MBU, there's a number of uses available that create value like the hospital, the hotels, etc., etc. Man, we'd be we'd be I can't speak for everybody, but I'm sure the majority of residents in Paris would be absolutely thrilled for a hospital and and and and I'll I'll be asking that later on. Our skydiving operation particularly from what I understand. That's true.

So So I I do appreciate that that the uh that the warehouses have got removed. Uh whether that was your choice or because essentially I mean with the council that we have now, we kind of ma made you and and other developers do it. But um but I I definitely appreciate that. Um I do got to bring up because it was brought up several times. I know yet that you've developed in other communities as well too. Yes.

And uh um some of them I I haven't heard any negative things about it and then but there's one particular area and and they kind of spoke to about it now um especially regarding the the community of Bloomington. Yes, sir. So, um could you kind of share to us just briefly about about um your experience there and uh can you clarify what what exactly happened and how do you make sure that something like that will never happen in the city of Paris?

Yeah, I I totally appreciate that we don't want this to happen here and so we've learned a lot. Um Bloomington was a was a general plan amendment that was driven by the by the county council member. We started with one building uh within this project and then um the board of supervisors said that that they didn't want to do just one-off building development and they asked us to embark on a larger scale project. Uh as we embarked on that that was a redevelopment changing um existing homes into a a business park. We acquired over 135 homes as as my company. We financed that through a company called uh Brookfield and they have a commercial development arm. They were our lender. Um we received uh um council or board of supervisors approval uh several years ago. We were immediately engaged in um litigation. During that time of litigation, um my interest uh payments uh continued to acrue such that by the end of uh before we could get back into court, um Brookfield foreclosed on the property. It's 100% Brookfield's property. Um, we're obviously I'm disappointed that that's how it went, but I have no real connection to it because I signed a deed in lie of of foreclosure. What is there now is that Brookfield is trying to process the environmental impact report through the court. The court is about to render its decision that all of their concerns were addressed.

Okay? because it's a warehouse project. It's not it's not seen in the most favorable light. Right. That's Brookfield's problem. Okay. They have and I think what most of the community and I'm angry about is that um we had an agreement with Colton Joint Unified. Um Brookfield won't honor that.

That leaves a bad taste in my mouth and everybody else's mouth. that community deserves better. Why won't this happen in Paris is a is a better is is the best question, right? Why won't it happen here? Um we have a completely different ownership structure. So the the money that's invested here isn't isn't so much borrowed money as it is equity by our financial partners. Do you understand the difference? So, I'm not I'm not beholden to them. They are shoulderto-shoulder with me.

So, if we get sued, we will uh we will take our lumps. We will uh proceed with the project at risk and um given that there are no no warehouses in this project. We think that that our environmental document is tight, it'll it'll withstand any challenge that anybody can bring. Um, and so that's why th for those reasons I it won't happen here, council member, but that's a a great question. Okay. I definitely appreciate that. Now, you did say one thing in there that is Brookfield's problem, but I guarantee that the ones who control Brookfield do not live in the community of Bloomington. So, 100%. So, it's actually Bloomington's problem.

100%. No. And and I and I respect your opinion. Yeah, that's that that's true. And that's why having local local developers who aren't based in New York or aren't based in Texas, who are um part of our community, who raise our families here. That's why I picked Germania to build our houses. That's why I'm here. Okay. And and which part of Paris do you live in, Mr. Which? I own three uh Council Member Corona. That's a good one. I consider one of those one of those 358 acres my home. And if you'd invite me and I think I I've gotten enough friends in the community that they'll let me pitch a tent there. Gotcha. Okay.

Thank you. Um I I I do want to get back to the uh to the 6,500 jobs and I'm I'm really happy about that because it's pretty happy. I see a lot of people they're happy about the jobs and and um and and a lot of them are union jobs. But I feel like we're we're kind of going through something that we that we had to deal with uh about a year ago, which is, you know, sometimes when when when you bring some some of the union labor in, some of the ones get excluded. And um I'm I'm trying to see if you could address that. Of the 6,500 jobs, how many are union jobs? So um so everybody has to play nice in the sandbox, right? You see behind me the Luna

members. You see the carpenters members. I also see the other members though. Yeah. And you see And you see my iron workers.

I'm a big advocate of theirs, right? Because they've been here st stand standing shouldertosh shoulder with me tonight. Um you you heard testimony from one of the operating engineers. Operating engineers are integral part of the building trades, right? They operate cranes etc. to the extent that that there is is is a work that their special that is their specialty and they are um can be part of the team through my two principal unions. Those two guys play nice in the sandbox. You're seeing a a uh you're seeing a collaboration between the carpenters and lyuna that we see across the region when we need when we need a uh a specific trade. Those two are wearing the the black and white striped shirt, if you will. Council member Corona, they're the ones who will officiate that. I have some expertise in in uh in development and construction, but I'm not a negotiator on the union side. So, I'm relying on those guys to tell me who we need on the team. But, they've they've assured me and if you take them aside, they're going to tell you that they that they uh will play nice in the sandbox. I don't want you to have to officiate that. Is that does that answer your question adequately?

Yes. But in the past, we we've had to bring a project back because they weren't they weren't playing nice. And it sounds like it's the same exact thing that's happening right now. Um you have you have two unions that that that are basically getting in the contract and the other ones have to have to answer to them or they have to get in line. And and and I'm not saying that's your fault, but but you can see that that the problem we are as as a city that that really commits to to labor and and good paying jobs, it's difficult to see our unions uh fighting with each other. I think I've used in the past, you know, if if if I'm going to eat, I want to make sure my brothers are eating, too. I think that's the theme, the process. We will we will work that out.

Yeah. It's very disappointing. See, I'm just letting them know like we we care about all the labor you guys, I I share I share your concern and and to the extent that that there are um specific trades that that they want to come to to me and explain their position. Um the requirement is to have three project labor agreements. We're fulfilling that obligation. And um so you you have Luna carpenters and and the iron workers and the iron workers and so we have a letter of intent with the iron workers. So what a letter of intent. It hasn't been

Yeah. So the same thing I have letters of intent with the with the carpenters and and Lyuna and I've used them all throughout the region. This is a this is a decadesl long um relationship between myself and them. Okay. And are you going to be using them for also the residential component as well? Yes. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Um let me let me ask Oh, just I guess going back to the original question. Of the 6,500 jobs to construct everything, how many are going to be union jobs? as many. I I I 6,500. Yeah, I would assume so. 6500. Yeah. Yeah. Do you want to take them on? Because I don't. I'm really Well, it's kind of up to you, but

Yeah. No. Well, I'm not the one pay for it. It is up to me. And and I will tell you, Councilman, that um that this, as you pointed out, you you want to have uh you want to watch out for your brother because they've watched out for you and I and sisters, too. And sisters, sorry. Um, okay. With the parcel hub, it's it's going to be FedEx, right? There's not going to be there's no DHL. It's going to be this is this is a specialized building. Again, it's a hammer versus a screwdriver, right? It's it's a hammer. It's it's designed to FedEx specifications. They are going to own it. It'll be here for

the workers are working for FedEx. FedEx like you're you're not getting external staffing. No, there there will be not within the facility. Okay. But but there will be um a truck that calls on the facility. Okay. That will be a Corona trucking company that will be making a a drop off. Okay. But when they get their when the when the workers that work in their paycheck, it's going to say FedEx on there. That's correct. It's not going to say staffing agency. It's not going to say Corona staffing agency with benefits with benefits. Air conditioning. 100% air conditioning% for workers, not just office workers, right? for throughout the building. That's why the the the roof is so thick. And 850 jobs, you said. Yes, sir.

Okay. All right. No, I'm I'm really happy about that. I I I I'm proud of it. I'm I'm very proud of it, council member. Okay. Um now, if this project were to be approved, how do we ensure that the residents are which are which I keep being told the residents of Paris are the best workers around, right? How do we make sure that those workers are looked at first? Can we have a separate job fair for just parish residents? Is that We We have that. Um the the uh the we've enlisted the support of the Chamber of Commerce for to hold those for us. Okay.

And um obviously uh given our our ties to the city that that's uh first and foremost when when you knock on 15,000 doors, you kind of learn that. And so Yes. Yeah. Okay. Um And the other thing just, you know, not to make light of of just, you know, these are the best workers. We want people that are here, approximate reliability. Um, that's why they're they're they're coming here.

Gotcha. Okay. And and with the with the other surrounding area, because I I think we already talked about the uh the parcel hub. I guess there's more questions on that, though. But um what's what's planned for the 68 acres? the the MBU is listed specifically as uh 68 acres. If we could go back to the map, uh Everett or who'sever in charge of that. So, let me let me uh let me go over here. Right there. That's that's a perfect map right there. That a good one. Yeah, that's perfect. So So, we're not just reszoning where the parcel hub is located. We're also reszoning where where it was originally housing. That's now going to be MBU. Yes, sir. What is what is your plan there?

So, in in phase two, that's where we're we're trying to uh land our hospital and or it may go the one for the 40 acre. It may go there. It may go to um phase what's designated as phase one. Okay. So, can we Okay. Okay. Let me just let me just explain. Go ahead. Okay. So, let's say we get the hospital needs more land area. But we have the flexibility to put them on the what what I'm seeing is the left side of the page. I don't know what you're seeing, but I'm looking at the same thing you're looking at.

Okay. So, north of FedEx and south of um Orange. That area may be one of the areas that they've expressed. You know, that might work. If not, we'll go over there to the to the other side of the street to the smaller parcel.

Right? If they end up on the larger side, which I think we'll just have to see how that plays out, then what happens is in the area that it's in green that's designated phase two becomes my area where I build my my u hotel that's allowed in in um in the uh MBU. Uh office space is allowed in the MBU. So, I would envision, you know, smaller office space. I've got to put it into production. And so, in one of those allowed uses in the MBU, that's what I'll put there. Okay. It's not going to be warehouse.

No, sir. There's no sir. It's prohibited under this specific plan. And yeah, but but just to be clear, so was So, when you bought the land, it wasn't zoned for a warehouse. Just just to be transparent, right? Okay. Yes, sir. But it's not going to be a warehouse. It's not going to be a warehouse. And would you be willing to to uh to sign a covenant to make sure that if it's you or if you sell the land, it will never be a warehouse. So the covenant would run with the land is what you're saying. Yep. Okay. So we're because we're making Yeah. a modification I right now. Yeah. Okay. So the covenant is that there's no warehouse. It runs with the land. If I get hit by a truck and it goes to somebody else, it'll still have that covenant on it,

right? It's in favor of the city, correct? Yep. Yeah, that's that I'm agreeable to that. Okay. So, on paper. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, just so everybody knows, um, the, uh, city attorney's here and she's smiling, but, um, Okay. Yes. um that what you and I just spoke of, a covenant restricting warehouse that runs with the land is something that I will um enter into with the city of Paris.

Uh let me look guys, we're really going over on these answers. A covenant is a written document and it'll be covered in the covenant. Right. Right. M uh city attorney. Yes. Okay. So, it'll be in a covenant. move on to your next question, please. Because we still got two other people that haven't even spoke yet. I mean, like like I I I do have uh several questions. So, I mean, if you want to No, go ahead. But I'm just saying you're beating around the bush over a covenant. A covenant. No, I I I do want to make sure a covenant is a written document and you've got people out there shouting out make it right and make it right. It is a written document. It is going to be written. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Move on, please.

Okay. So, so and and then also for clarification, I mean like whether we approve or or it's going to come to a second reading as well too, right? This isn't. So, everything everything that we're talking about is going to be in there. All the conditions that Okay. Um now, so if if you don't have a actual hospital right now for the for the for the larger piece, does it make sense to reszone that section then? Yeah, because as you as you saw, there's a number there's a whole list of uses within the within the MBU. But what I want to point out to you is whatever happens there is going to come back through planning commission is going to come back to you for a vote.

Right. But but but we're we're voting to reszone it to from residential to MBU. The residential still underlies as as um planning director fun uh Kenneth explained to you. Okay. Gotcha. Okay. Um I do want to talk about the the housing component as well too. you you just showed the housing and uh it's very important and I I I'm I'm I'm glad that we're keeping the housing component. Now now this actual house I I don't know what what it's built at, but what what you know I um but the front of it it looks like it's Is that wood paneling in the front? No. Okay. No, it's um it's a fabricated steel.

Okay. All right. No, no. I I do I do like like the wood look, but unfortunately we do have communities in our in our area that aren't even that old that it's just peeling off. It just doesn't look good. You know, um um a lot of residents do take care of their homes, but unfortunately some of them are kind of have trouble maintaining it. Remember, we're going to have several phases here, so we want it to look neat and tidy um for the future. This product um lasts has better performance than than wood. And and and when will that be developed? So, you're saying 45 days is going to have to come back. Within 45 days, we're making the first uh the pre-application.

Okay. All right. I do want to discuss a park because that was very very important uh to our residents and and and I got to be in the commercials and your your commercials that came on my Facebook all the time. Yeah. And also the flyers that went out to the residents, they promoted a sports complex, but in our staff report, it was listed as being part of phase two. So, can I get confirmation again that that will be part of phase one? Yes, sir. Okay. And and so council member again um to be clear that's in my letter of intent with academia and to the extent that that um you wanted to put that in as a condition in writing that's a contractual obligation I'll do that for you.

Okay. Yeah. I now now I do agree. I mean they're they're uh one of our premier uh soccer organizations in our in our uh in our community and they are a growing community and and and we we always have a shortage of uh soccer fields. So, I definitely appreciate that. But what what I don't think was listed in the staff report or or according to the staff that we weren't aware that you're going to be giving it to a soccer organization, which I'm not opposed to, but you know, like we we we run our parks. They're expensive. So, who's going to make sure that they are maintaining their parks? Can I just clarify everything for you in terms of structure? Mhm. Um the our our team will own the own the property. We're entering into

Whose team? Hart Howard's team. Okay. Is is going to own the underlying uh land, correct? Yeah.

Academia is going to uh operate it. I'm making the investment to um build the fields. Okay. So this will be uh maintained by la academia in in total to the extent that it isn't being maintained properly then I can come in and maintain it to the standard that that we all want. I've been sensitive to um city manager's economic forecast and I understand that um parks are a big line item in your budget. So the uh outdoor uh space is being maintained by the business park all 358

the basin behind the commercial. Yes sir. Okay. And then um to the extent that Lock Academia were to default or something happened there and we had to change a user will step in and operate that and maintain it. Okay. And does our staff know about this? Like I I don't know. Has that been discussed with our staff?

No. the uh the maintenance for the basin. Yes, we are aware that the developer is responsible to maintain the basin. Um not discussed the park um operations though because that was supposed to be in phase two. So we never really discussed it but now that it's phase one um in hearing Mr. Howard um if the council is open to that arrangement we can add that as a condition when we come back.

Okay. So, so I I do appreciate uh you know with the speakers that spoke regarding the park. A lot of them I I knew. I I've known them for a long time. Uh I think they're doing great work there. Um but what what you're doing though is you're giving them a park. Now the rest of the residents that aren't part of LA academia, they don't have a park to go to. Is there did you ever think of I mean you're building a lot of residential nearby but there's no park for them.

So we'll have some kind of license agreement with the residential nearby. um this the the issue that you're bringing up um is is one that that um we're sensitive to and to the extent that they're soccer players um I'm sure that Lock Academia will embrace them and try to foster I mean they're they're your people from from childhood so you know them you know the character I know them I know their character and I don't think anybody's trying to box anybody body out of anything. No. Yeah, I think they're good people. I I think we're in agreement on that. I think we're I think they're good people and they're going to do what's right.

But in terms of a playground or anything, is there anything? Yeah. Yeah. So So during the I never saw that. Let me let me I saw I saw workout equipment for adults. No, that's the other that's the other side. Let me just get back to um so uh council member Corona, you see in the middle by the by the parking there's a cluster of of what looks like trees. So when let's say you have a son who's participating in a game, there'll be um a playground area there and then that then that u long kind of you know tic tac uh piece is the pro shop.

Okay. So right now academia is in the back of a in the back of a multi-tenant manufacturing building. So, what we're trying to do is elevate the game to bring them into a first class facility. And that's a that's a pro shop there. And is the field going to be grass? Is it going to be your turf? The the it's going to be turf is what the majority of of the coaches have have um have uh expressed their desire for. So, I'd expect it to be turf. So, it's going to have to be fenced around. I mean, that's Yes, sir. Okay. So, the the normal residents, they they they won't have access to it. I mean I mean we we have some fields like that too but

well if so around you say you if you look at the at the top portion there's landscaping there and I would assume there's a fence there to keep the balls from flying off but down at the south end uh council member that would be open to the public. Okay. Okay. So if if if if if somebody came in um and got permission to access the fields through whatever agreement that your friends work out with them, have at it. Okay. And and where were the lights be positioned? Where would the lights be position? Are you going to have lights there? Yeah, absolutely. We we we have to again we're we're the the lights would be at the end of the fields and they would be

But but there are going to have lights there. Yeah. and and the parking. I mean, I'm not, you know, you know, I'm sorry, but you kind of threw a wrench into into this whole thing because we got parking. You got parking for for the 2,000 families that might be at the same time. And council member Corona, if there isn't enough parking, they'll go park across the street at the at the retail and be able to enjoy the restaurants over there. Okay. Okay. Um, so current currently there's no there's no other park for the residents of the community of the residential, right? There's no no there's no there's no public parks. Um, now

if during the the course of the the buildout that the home developer put in a park and it was open, that's that's not in my control. Okay. Have you have you reached out to our environmental groups within uh our city like our Yeah. Yes, sir. Whi- which ones?

Um Paris Neighbors and Actions. I actually uh had CCAJ and invited them um to dinner here. Uh we had about eight people show up for dinner and I walked them through the project. And so as you've heard, the opposition is is is vocal and they've they've had some good suggestions here tonight. Don't trust me. Make me put it in writing. Those kind of things. Um we got their input. Uh I heard that and that's and and so they've been they've been active in in their uh

in in their involvement. So, you know, we had uh a outreach event on Saturday. Um I had the the opportunity to sit down with um is it Gomez and her husband and we we talked for an hour and I think I have a good understanding of what what um the folks that that follow her want and we're doing our best to to uh get there. Well, I guess specifically Paris Neighbors in Action. I mean they're they're the premier uh group in Paris. Um you know I I have you sat down with them particularly? No, nobody will sit down with me. Okay. Okay. I mean I I have you reach out to them? Yes.

Yeah. Okay. You've got the text, right? All of the texts for for the community outreach events. I mean Oh, those texts. Okay. I didn't get a personal text. I just want to be transparent. I don't care. I haven't targeted you personally, council member. Okay. But yes. All right. Um I think of No, I I still got some um got the Sports Cup. We talked about that. We talked about that one. Um you're not building a warehouse again. Okay. I already asked that. Um the Covenant, we got that and the hospital. How far are you with the hospital again?

Um so, uh we have a a group called Ambassador Healthcare. Um Dr. John Rafetto that we've been working with. Um, I think that might be one of the one of the letters that I shared with you or Okay. or or uh council member Rab, but yeah, it's a real it's a real group and they uh were instrumental in in landing u the scripts project in San Diego, Hogue in in Irvine. So, it's not me. Okay. Okay. I have actual professionals. Gotcha. Okay. I think that's all the questions I have. I'll save my comments uh for later on. Thank you.

Thank you, Council Member. And thank you for for urging me to put all this in writing. I think it makes us all trust one another that much better. Thanks. Okay. Thank you, Mayor. So, um my colleagues have said, um a lot to what um I wanted to say. I guess that's always a problem of going last because everyone just takes the good arguments. I'm last. time last almost last uh but uh Tim I had a quick question regarding the school so just to confirm the school doesn't need to be moved or I I know they may or may not want to depending I don't know but thank you for asking that question but they don't have to

they do not have to thank you for answering asking that question because it was up in the air we have a letter of intent we're both doing our due diligence Right. So, if the school has nuclear waste under it, I'm not going to be required to to buy it. If my site that that I'm proposing that they move to, which is twice as twice the size of of um the current site, if they find something wrong with it, then they don't need to move. No one is pushing them, council member. I want to stress that. So, thank you for that question.

Perfect. Yeah, because I I do also want to let the community know if the community knows it or not. Like moving a school is very tough and I'm I'm I'm very grateful that you are willing to give them the land, but it it does take a lot more money and it does take a bond measure that taxpayers would have to pay. I understand that council member and so when they approached us and let me be clear, they approached us about you know what what are you going to do? Where how could you help us? So that's why um I acquired that land.

They've done site planning on it. They're in the due diligence phase and there's there's there's an ongoing negotiation between us and them. I'm sensitive to your your question about bond issues, what they have, the money that they've in invested. So I will share this with you. They'll have an appraisal for what they what their school is worth. I'll have an appraisal for what the vacant land is. I'm sure they're going to ask me to pay their higher price because vacant land is not worth as much as an improved site. Of course, and that's as far as I can get into the details. But I think you can see that behind the surface there's

there's some economic benefit to the school. It's we're not requiring them. We're not pushing them. They came to us. They've designed their their school. M and regarding with the schooling, I just want everyone to be aware it is not easy. It's very tough to move schools because being a former school board member, I know what it's like to build a school. Takes many, many years, 15, 20 years depending on the community as well. So, it's not an easy thing to do. So, I'm glad that they can stay there as long as they want. And we have to make sure that we put that in writing because uh

and Okay. Okay. We got to we got to stop right there. I'm a former school board member, too. What goes on between the school and the developer is them. We They have their own legislative body. But we don't let the community know. Doesn't matter. We don't we don't control what goes on with the schools. And the planning commission got hooked up. Planning Commission got hooked on that for a long time. I don't want to see this council do the same. That's between him and the school district. He sent you a letter of interest, a letter of uh interest that they signed, which is just showing that they are speaking, but that's between them two. Let's move on with our questions with our project, please.

But it's always good to let the community know and that they are not in the dark because that as council members, that's what we should be doing. We should be letting them know of all the things that we know because if not, they are going to be left in the dark and then we are always going to be blame. That's not that's up to the board of education to let the parent the school parents know. Can we please move on with our project? Council member Valo, I'm I'm happy to share as as much as I reasonably can without getting crosswise with with the school district. But but just to recap, we're we were approached by them. We're not pushing them. We've offered an alternative that they've asked us to to come up with and that's and that's what I want the community to understand. Okay.

Perfect. 100% clear. We're not moving them. Perfect. Thank you. Regarding the letter of intent of that, you guys say that you perhaps want to add a round one. I didn't see round one specifically written in here. It just said it's it's up in a round one. And I want to make sure that it says round one will be coming in here. I don't want any likes. I don't want any Well, maybe this. I want to make sure that it that the letter of intent says round one will be here because this one seems a little vague and a little bit off. Okay. Well, um, my associate Kevin Wolf, who's responsible for the LOI.

All right. Um, so Round One is a tenant under a developer at the Marino Valley Mall. They're the one that will place round one here, and those are the ones who wrote that letter for us. So, so they we have their commitment. So, they place their tenants.

Okay. Just make sure it says round one, not like a round one, because it's a very confusing letter of intent when you read it. It just says we're building something like this. It's going to have bowling and it's going to be a style entertainment. It's very vague. But if we make sure that it's written with clear intent that they welcome, that is what the community wants and that is what the community deserves and I would be more than happy to know that this project will include this type of entertainment center.

That was the commitment we were given. Well then, well then maybe next time make sure to put them in there that it has to be specific because we because I I've noticed that the council in the past they always hear these beautiful fake promises and then back then it didn't turn into fruition. But now we're really on top of it as a council and now we really want to make sure that everything is exactly real and true and we need to put it in writing. So, and I will not support it unless if everything is in writing and it makes sure that we are going to get everything. Um, another question that I had for Tim is

can um, council member can just finish it off to so that we're absolutely Yes. Speaking of the mic, Tim, can can Kevin just finish it off so that we're absolutely clear because that's what we think we're delivering and that's we've heard you and that's our intent here. Thank you for the clarification. And then another question for Tim is um why make the zoning in MBU and not residential if if you want to be SB330 compliant. So like if you want to do that then I would just put So we are

Yeah. So we are SB330 compliant because the residential underlies. So, if the housing takes off, I'll just pull back the MBU and build more housing. It's just given us the ability to move um within. So, the housing isn't gone. It's underlying. What the MBU gives us is the flexibility to bring a hospital, a hotel, etc. from that list of uses. It's confusing, but welcome to the attorneys.

Right. Uh, another thing that I wanted to note is I know you are entitled to I think it's like about 80 acres of MBU. Uh, you are entitled to it. So, you can do whatever you want with it. Um, because you own it and with and you don't need approval from us or anything like you can just build whatever you want to build. But I'm glad that you're taking the time to talk with residents, to talk with staff, to talk with everyone, just to make sure that everyone is happy with what your proposed project is. And that is what I'm very grateful for. You know, you're you're not one of the well, looks like you're not one of those scary developers who just says, well, I'm just going to make this and just not have any input. So, I'm glad that you are adding a lot of like community response and that makes me happy. But I would feel much more comfortable if the maximum amount of MBU is only 80% acres which is yours and I want the rest to be either categorized as commercial or residential. So all the other

so that's so the MBU is is commercial, right? Or we can just put commercial. Yeah, but then we don't know because you're going to drive Kenneth crazy, you know. But he gets paid very well. So I think he would be very happy to do that. It's doesn't seem like I can get as long as I can get my hospital and I think Council Member Corona's idea of no um of no warehouses in that covenant. Um I'm comfortable with that. Um, I'd like to keep my underlying uh housing zoning and I and I want my my MBU zoning even though I've got to come back to you,

right? And and we're going to have another one of these hearings if there's a hospital because I'm sure somebody's going to say you can't put a hospital next to a freeway or something like that and there'll be or there's too much traffic. there's going to be some controversy and so the next time I see you with my with my hospital company, I'm sure the meeting will be similar to this. So I want to keep my resi. I want to keep my MBU.

And for me, I would tell you that, you know, I want to work with you. I know that you are up there in the community and you're advocating for commercial. Everybody loves the commercial here. I absolutely love it. Parcel Hub is not really my favorite. Uh it's not really everyone's cup of tea, but you know, if you added, you know, there's still time for you to change your mind. And if you just say, "Hey, I just want to build commercial," I think everyone is going to be happy tonight. So, just giving you some extra time in case you want to change your mind. I I would tell you that that we need that we need a company like FedEx

because as as I said in my presentation, these are real jobs. their career jobs and without them I can't put in my infrastructure that we need to make the rest of this fly. I can't build the houses. And so that uh council member Vallejo is probably the reason why it's been sitting since 2012.

So I'm going to tell you what I think would make me happy to approve this project. I would want only 80 acres of MBU which was which is your designated area. Uh no more MBUs only commercial and residential. And I also want to uh concurrently upzone the existing MBU to to residential and commercial. So, so in case that a residential or commercial is removed in one area, it should definitely be replaced somewhere else. And um if you can or what I would suggest is if we can remove uh parcel hubs and any type of industrial uses inside the MBU if we don't get to that point because I I just want to make sure nothing no other man like no other manufacturing, no nothing. We just want commercial and residential in that line. If you complete those requests for me, I would be more than happy to move forward because here I am trying to play ball with you. And I think that is definitely going to make me happy and and it's going to let a lot of the community members know that you are down to play ball and you are ready to stay here in Paris with these conditions. And I don't think it's that much to ask for. It's really not. You still get your parcel hub. You still get everything. These are the only requests that I'm looking for.

Is my hospital a commercial use? I don't know. Could it? Yeah. Hold on a second. So, can we put the list of uses um that are allowed in the MBU? No, there's not. That's a Do you have that slide? Where's Charlie? Patricia, can we put it? Yeah. So, so these are commercial uses from a layman's standpoint. She will uh give you a list of them. And if you hear something that's objectionable,

then if I strike that, I think I get you where you need to go. Yes, I have. I think we do have a list. Yeah, I think it's on one of the slides. Let's just blow through these real quick. Patricia, bring up the that table, that slide that we have. We we have to switch presentations then. Can All right, we can do that. Already there. I just want to clarify the list is not does not include every single youth that's in the specific plan. So, it's not all inclusive. So, this list shows

hospitals right off the bat. It shows all the uses per only that are permitted in the um MBU. But hospitals are considered commercial, right? So we can not have an MBU and just keep it commercial slash residential. That that's what it is. Yeah. So why not you want to call it commercial and not MBU? That's fine. No, I just don't want any more MBUs. Just the MBU that's entitled to you, which is 80 acres, right? And the rest only commercial and residential. Um I believe MBU also allows business parks, office uses which are a different category under commercial which is why it's um mixed business use

um which is a mix of business park offices and commercial and residential. And then only my concern is MBUS are just very ambiguous and it's very easy to fall into a trap of oh well some like we could add something else in there too. That's why if we just put strictly commercial. Exact. Yeah. So, could I delete manufacturing? That was something that you didn't that you didn't uh You can. So, let let let let Charlie walk you through.

Good evening. My name is Charlie Sakowski. I'm a consultant. I work for EPD Solutions. Uh we wrote the specific plan. Um, so there is under MBU a category called in quotes industrial uses and they include as permitted uses schools, technical and trade, light industrial and light manufacturing which I believe Tim is willing to strike from the permitted use table. Um, recycling facilities with the cup, recycling facilities, um, reverse funding only, which we can strike that as well. um truck storage outdoor

the parcel hub we would need to maintain um manufacturing and industrial um for both indoor and outdoor we could strike those and manufacturing pharmaceutical hazardous material and chemicals which would be a cup which we could also remove. Are you following because I don't want

So also I would exclude so take out par or take out manufacturing, take out parcel hubs. I would say business parks too cuz there like it's great but not for that area since it's going to be so like congested and a lot of commercial. I want to keep up the commercial uplook of it. Like those are the ones that I want on there. What about an office building like just talked about. I mean, I wouldn't suggest having it there. If it's going to be all entertainment and sit down restaurants, I want more of that. No, no, no. Out by the freeway.

I don't think we need it. I think if we add more commercial in there. I mean, we uh we want commercial more than business parks, do we? I mean, I'm sure I do. I want more places to eat, more uh more places to play and to have fun. around their operation. Yeah. So, um, so can I jump in real quick? The reason I I I think I need offices is because doctors have offices. So, when you get a hospital, you know how how Oh, well, my office is across the street. So, those kind of office uses I would I I still need.

May I ask a question of my colleague? But all of those But all of those uh Hold on, Tim. Hold on. Okay. In ter Miss Council Vjo, in terms of manufacturing, are you opposed to any sort of manufacturing even if it's say a building smaller than this council chamber where people are actually building something and producing something? I I I don't mind those. I just don't think it's the right area to put it in. If we really care about commercial and if we really want to bring revenue in here, I would get the most attractive thing on there since it's the exit of the freeway. That's what I prefer to have on there. What if Mr. Howard or the subsequent owner brings say a a manufacturing is different than a warehouse where people are storing something? Say

people are producing something in our economy whether it be you know in Paris or certain manufacturing. What was the uh the you know I know this this milling place is probably in the long wrong spot here or stretch forming or one of those other buildings that brings tax revenue to our city and it also provides jobs for individuals such as these uh fine gentle ladies and gentlemen of the union where they're building something and producing something for our economy. Now it's not the same as say a buffalo wild wings or a commercial but I I don't think Mr. hard or any other developer is going to be able to put commercial in all that land. I just I I've served on this council for 11 years

and during that 11 years the only commercial spot that we've seen built is the new Walmart in the surrounding area of that. Besides that, it's been more of a pocket development and that's just, you know, if you take out that you go even further back before that we have the Windco area that's not even fully developed and that was built in 2006 2007. So, I think um I think cutting out manufacturing severely limits the profitability of that area and it severely limits opportunities for our residents. But I I respect your position. I just think I just don't think they're ever going to be able to put commercial in that whole entire area.

Well, I mean, I think it could it could also be like a case by case basis. Like if it's a great uh business, then we can I think they can do like a resone, right? And then I make a suggestion. Um, you could require those types of uses with a conditional use permit. Therefore, it's discretionary and it's not just permitted by right. That's a great idea. I like that

the planning commission did request that future projects within the MBU be heard by planning commission. So there we have changed the specific plan directly to state that um anything requiring a development plan review which will go through planning is required to go back through planning commission for review and approval. So any future project that is proposed in the future phase one area phase 2 MBU this will all have to go back and be heard by either planning commission or yourselves.

But if I may that was for development for design review but as far as having discretion over a particular use the only mechanism is a cup. So that's up to you. Okay. And that's what I would suggest like these are the suggestions that I would highly highly recommend you guys to really take place and what I think is best since this is a very long meeting and it's very confusing. I would be more comfortable continuing this meeting for the next council meeting to vote on it and you making those changes so then we know these changes are real and we put it in writing and then we know what we're waiting for. cuz what I've noticed being in council sometimes when we are here they're always a verbal yes but it's never written down so we never know that it is going to come true or not and that's what I I would suggest I would find it more comfortable I know when it gets late it gets a little bit harder to pay to pay attention but I think if the rest of the council is okay with that I think that's a great plan to have because then you will already have time to do exactly what we're all telling you to do and then you'll bring it up to the next council meeting and then we know exactly what we're voting for and then we're not rushing to things because I don't want to rush into this.

Won't we have a second reading though? Whatever. I was going to say exactly what this we're going to make the recommendations that he's agreeing to and it still has to come back for for review again. And that would come in the market. If you do what you want to do, it's going to happen again. We're going to hear them out and then you're still going to have to come back for another hearing again. So let's we're pretty much almost done here. I get my little comments, you know,

mayor, I think we took down Jeremy Crowd. We did take down the notes, the CUP requirements. This is very common practice that we often do. We get and we got the comments, we make the revisions, staff reviews it, and then it goes to second reading. So that's a very common practice for specific plans. So what you're saying, Jeremy, is that

in the what I'm hearing is the manufacturing the the the uses that we're talking about the MBU that are different than a commonly commercial use would be a a CUP requirement. We've looked at the commercial uses in the city code, the standard commercial designation. A lot of those uses are mimicked in the MBU. It's some of the other uses that we talked about. Those could be cups and we're hearing if that's the desire of the council, of course, we'd want to get that direction from the council and we can make that revision and the staff would review that for the second reading. All right. Um, it's my turn, M. Mr. Corona.

So, um, we've heard a lot tonight and this project has completely eliminated all the warehouses except for the hub. and the hub uh as a developer indicated that it's going to help him provide significant a lot of millions of dollars to do what he's conditioned to do and to include $90 million worth of infrastructure which benefits the city. Every time we have a groundbreaking in this city of a fast food restaurant, we get condemned by our by our constituents. They're tired of fast food restaurants. Even when we open up uh a regular business, what they just all the the comments just flood on Facebook and we need a Chase, we need a Sam's, we need an Olive Garden, we need Longhorn, the list goes on. He's not getting everything in there, but everything he's bringing into that commercial, this community has been crying for every time we do a ribbon cutting in our city. I personally spoke with Sam's Chase and Malcolm brought up um Marshalls at ICS. That's the International Council of Shopping Centers. That's where we go sell ourselves in Vegas to a conference and trying to devel bring these businesses to our community that the customers keep asking. And we met with Marshalls and I don't know who was with me because it can only be two council members or a mayor and a council member. And the guy said, 'We, Marshall said, uh, we're waiting. We're waiting for you guys. That's we already told the developer we're we're going to come. And the list goes on that Sprouts is threatening to leave because we have not made a decision here. This council here,

you've got all this development that wants to come in here. you asked for uh entertainment that we finally got this man who's going to bring in round one. Um they're bringing they're giving the work to the union workers. I mean, I don't know what more what more we can we can do or what more this developer could do. I'm prepared already to make a decision and to support this project because why? Because my community has been you all keep talking about your community. Your community well your community is shouting out for everything that this man is willing to do. He's willing to put in writing no more warehouses. A covenant that means it can never do a warehouse. So that's done. So let's move on with this project and give what all our community came up here and asked for. All right. Who's next?

Corona. Yeah. For for uh going back to my to my colleague's questions, you know, I I'm I am um wonder if you bring back the map with the uh with the layout map with with the proposed map. The full the full the full proposal. Full layout. Yeah. Presentation.

Okay. Um, so, so going back to that one, right, we're we're not just reszoning the where the parcel hub is at, we're also reszoning the other MBU. So, if we don't have an an assurance of what's going to go in in the in the larger MBU, why are we reszoning it? Right? If a hospital comes, I'm very very open to reszoning it from commercial to to uh for a hospital, right? But right now we don't have a hospital in line to do that, right? So why can't we reszone that at that time? Is that something we could do? Uh Mr. Kenneth?

Yes, we should be able to designate a commercial if we wish to for the MBU section. Leave it as commercial residential. Leave it to what it is right now. Um can you put the slide from the existing land use? Yeah, because um I think you're referring to just leave the current land use as is. Yeah, since there are no proposals. There we go. Right there. Okay. So, the area in the yellow, right, it's currently zoned for commercial or is currently zone for residential, right? Uh, you know, so so if you see Indian draw a straight line, it's right there. Um, it kind of goes straight right there. Uh, can you go back to the to the other one? It's the one that showed before. Oh, I guess it's right right there. No. Well,

not really. Can you go back to the other one? Right there. That one. So if you look at Indian, it goes straight down. And we're going to No, it's the other one. That one. That one. If you look at Indian, it would go straight down. So basically essentially cutting that cutting that in half and leaving the east side, the east side of that as residential until a hospital comes, until we know a hospital comes, right? And then our planning commission could reszone that for for the hospital. Is that something we could do? Like is are you opposed to that Mr. Howard? I mean is does it make sense?

Here here's what I would I would say is I want to keep the MBU because I can't have a hospital wait another five years like this. Why would a hospital wait another five years? Because if it's residential then we have to if it's just residential then we have to to uh amend this specific plan and go through what we've gone through the last four years. and by then we'll be at a loss and they will go elsewhere. So within the MBU council member that's an allowable use. What we've said is is um

to put in that conditional use permit so that everything that goes come that that we would process through there comes back to you.

So if I have the MBU overlay on the residential, the residential can still be residential. The MBU allows me to to bring that hospital that you want without having to ad amend the specific plan again, which is going to take another four or five years by the time we recirculate everything. That's how long this has taken. We have sat here and we've worked diligently with staff and so I implore you to give us that that that flexibility. You're giving me the flexibility from land use. you ultimately will improve the use that gives you um what you need and it gives me what I need.

Okay. But to be fair, it wasn't us that that delayed it for four or five years, right? Because No, no, it's it's it's that's how long the process takes, right? Okay. Okay. But but this is a project that was presented in 2018 or 2020 2021, right? I mean, it's it was No, it never it never got to council. Let let our city attorney make a comment. She wants to maybe can help a little bit.

Yeah. I'm going to try to see if I can help. Maybe we can add a provision to the development agreement that says that the developer is required to first and foremost bring the hospital. And if they want, I mean, at the CUP, you have to do that. But then if they want to bring another use that's not a hospital, they have to show the council that they've made every diligent effort to bring the hospital that there is um a good faith attempt and theos they can't recruit any hospitals. And at that point the council will consider another use and it's still subject to a cup. So you would have discretion over it. Would we be able to reserve that for you know 10 10 years and for for a hospital 20 years? Okay.

20 years. I mean it's going to come right. It's going to come Mr. Howard hospital's going to be come right. And what and what you're what what the council what the councilman is saying just so we're clear it's reserve the right that you have to first in good faith and with due diligence pursue a hospital and you have to show the council that you've done every good faith effort and you just can't get a hospital to come and then you go through a cup. So I'm completely okay with any time frame you want to put on that. Okay. I'm completely okay with any time frame. All right. 20 years. We're negotiating here. Yeah. Council member 10 10

10. All right. 10 10 cuz I'm You know, listen. But it's going to happen, right? So we don't have to worry about Oh, you're looking at me. Have I failed you yet? Yeah. Okay. The city attorney just said, you just gave me the the marching orders. I got to work my tail off. I've worked my tail off for the last four years on this project. I will give you another 10. Councilman. Okay. All right. Okay. Appreciate it. If I were close enough, I'd shake your hands and we'd move on. Um, that's all the questions. Councilman Rab, you had qu.

Yes. Just just comments. So, I'd like to thank all the speakers for coming out and sharing their opinions today. Um, I would echo the sentiments of the mayor. Um up until very recently I was opposed to this project during the phase the warehouse components that were in the project up until late this year. Uh with the extension of the good neighbor policy the warehouse moratorum and most importantly the covenant that the uh developer is willing to enga enter into the written covenant that we will get in writing that will be in the second reading of this uh packet. I can support this program. As the mayor mentioned, we've heard from residents over the last decade, we want something more than fast food. We have five Del Tacos in the city or four Del Tacos, a Del Taco at every exit. We have two McDonald's or three if you the one in Walmart. We have all these fast food places, but the residents have made it abundantly clear. They want sat down restaurants. They want more retail. In the time I've been on council or just the time I've lived in Paris, I will be 40 this year. I there's only been four major centers that have been built. The Food for Less Center, originally Food for Less 1994, 9697. You started getting the theater, the Del Taco, the Ride, all that was built between 94 and 96. Um the Stater Brothers facility that was built in 1989 to about 91 when the Sizzler was built. the Windco area that was built in 2007 and they're still finishing up with Septembers and and uh Corkis and all that that's been built more recently. And then um and then the new Walmart that was built in 2015. In the last 40 years, those are all the centers that have been built in Paris. In 1990, we had 21,000 people. Now we have 83,000 people. People want more development. the parcel hub. It it lot when you see it, it's not the the best thing, but I did have an opportunity to visit a parcel hub in Chino a few years ago. I

saw people working. I saw a diverse workforce. As an African-American, that's important because a lot of these warehouses, they find ways not to hire black people, and that's I'm just going to keep it 100 at that. I saw white people working there. Same thing. I saw different people working together, earning a living, making a paycheck. During the last few weeks, I've met with multiple people. I met Mr. Dwarte at Sizzler a few weeks ago. I met with Mr. Howard. I met with Miss Delgado regarding the commercial development. I spoke with the person that's going to be building the Sam's Club, the individual that's building the Petco, different individuals that are building things over the time frame. I did my due diligence on this. Now, there aspects we we'd like to see the hospital built, but the fact the developer is entering into covenant not to build warehouses in MBU land. The fact that we have our good neighbor policy basically annihilate or prohibits warehousing in that whole area. The fact that we are if we vote on this the MBU will prohibit any kind of warehouses. We have three pong approach to make sure there is not going to be any warehouses built in that area. Now in terms of the MBU now commercial it's it's great but we're not going to be able to fill that whole area with commercial. MBU gives the developer or future developers the opportunity to get different uses. Now the hospital would be the best use but there are other uses. Manufacturing doesn't sound sexy, but this is what this country was built on. Manufacturing. I just finished a book, What God Had Wrought. It's covers American history from 1815 to 1848. During that period, America became a manufacturing hub. Over the last 50 years, we've taken our manufacturing out of this country. I have no issue with putting manufacturing there. We're actually building stuff in America. We're not stip shipping stuff from China into America. So, I think given the totality of the circumstances, we're going to piss somebody off. I mean, the carpenters, you guys came here today and I appreciate your comments and I'm I support this project, but a few weeks ago, we pissed you guys off when we voted the moratorum. So, uh we just as

elected officials, it comes with the job. We're going to piss people off, but I can support this project because it's going to move it forward. And I would suggest over the next time between now and the second reading of this this thing, everyone take the opportunity to meet with the various stakeholders because I had the opportunity to meet with them and I have two jobs and I commute out to San Bernardino and I had the opportunity to meet with them. Read the read the packet and make the decision. But I'm prepared to move forward today provided that we have the written assurance that the covenant that no warehouses will be built. The covenant that Howard Industries the developer will make sure that we move forward on the hospital and the fact that the sports facility will be in round one. The people are waiting for this. The developers are waiting for this. We can't be bullshitting around. We have to move forward on this today. So is that a motion? That's a Councilman Rab said that's his motion.

Is there a second? Wait, can I can I just clarify the motion because the second condition that you said you said the covenant for the hotel, but I think it was a little bit different. It's a cup requirement for any use that's not the or any use actually. And in addition to that uh a DA amendment that adds that for a period of 10 years they would have to first before they can come and ask for another use they would have to show that they've done due diligence and good faith efforts to council's satisfaction. It's an important distinction. So I just wanted your motion to be clear. Thank you you clarifying that if it moves us forward. Yes.

Um city attorney just one one clarification. Um, the CUP would be a requirement for manufacturing uses only, right? Is that correct? Then maybe I misunderstood. I thought it was a CUP for any use. Oh, that. Okay, that's fine then. Thank you for that additional clarification. Yes. And then, oh, I'm sorry, Patric, if I can just also add something else for clarification. uh something that was mentioned by the applicant that um he is um in acceptance of a condition of approval that the 16 acre and sports park shall be constructed as part of phase one. That's correct. Yes. Okay.

And and then council member Corona, I want to make sure that you understand that what the city attorney was saying is it's diligence, good faith efforts. You and I shook on 10 years. You be right. Yeah. Yeah. No, I got these people in the back on the writing part, but you got a first. Do I have a second? Oh, we're already doing motion. I still have Yes, there's a motion on the table already. I'm going to wait to speak. Uh, so we have a first. Uh, it's late. Motion by council uh Councilman Rav and a second by Mayor Prom Corona. No. No.

Well, you're on there. Oh, no. I'm on the wrong screen. Okay. Is there a second on the motion? If no one's doing it, then I will second the motion

for for clarification for a city attorney. Um I understand we're voting, but I mean I I still had some additional conditions in there, so I want to make sure. So that if we vote no. Hold on. Okay. Well, I'm sorry if I missed it. I I thought Councilman rap. So what else was in there? Oh, I still haven't added. I was going to finish my comments, but in there was going to be Oh, well, do do you want to withdraw your motion so Councilman Corona can finish his comments and see if there's additional uh conditions you want to add to the DA uh to to the I would I would I would rather leave the motion and the second on let him add his what he wants and then we can ask the first motion if he's willing to make an amendment. I don't want to start all over again. We've been here too long.

What are your What are your What are your additions? I I I want to bring up my comments. That's all. Okay. And then I had I had a additional motion. So So if if you want to vote for this and then we can vote for it, unless you want allow me to time to give my closing remarks. That's it. Well, I don't I would rather you give what you want to add to the motion, not closing remarks. I I was going to I was going to give you give my comment. I still haven't given my comments on it. That's that that's all. But if you want to go ahead and do the motion, that's You haven't given your comments on this? No, I haven't. I ask questions, but that's okay. Okay. Give your comments.

Okay. All right. Okay. Um c can we go back to the uh the slide number two? I guess on the first one.

Is that the one?

No. I um the the one with the with the original one with the warehouses. I don't know is that I guess right there. Right. So um you know you know I do want to thank all those that spoke. I know it's a long night. Um you know it's it's it's a very very important uh thing that we're voting on. It's not easy. I know as Councilman Rabb stated it's going to make people upset uh if we vote one way or the other. And and I totally get it. Um when when when this uh applicant originally came to us after he purchased the land, it was full of it was full of uh full of warehouses, more warehouses than what you see here. And it it was it was it was in my opinion very horrendous. And um you know, I I know that there's people in this audience that even supported that one. And that would have been a big a big problem had we supported that one originally. So, I think I think about how far we've come and the project that we're bringing today and uh you know, I I don't think we could have done it without without the voices of our residents and and of course my colleagues here today. Uh we certainly couldn't have done a moratorum and also a uh a good neighbor policy without uh first having my councilman councilwoman uh VJO elected as well too. Uh Councilman Rab who actually brought up the moratorum originally. Um and then also working behind the scenes and and and ensuring that the housing component uh was still part of the entire project. Um and and at the same time I I do want to thank our planning commission for working diligently. I know it was long meeting um you know but it's important that that these decisions are are are being made. And I especially want to give uh uh credit to to my colleague, Councilwoman Nava, who worked behind the scenes and she's very diligent in making

sure that that her her standard of uh of of acceptance is very high and and I think that helps out everybody else. I mean, if we had somebody like Councilwoman Nava 30 years ago, three people like her, uh for the last 30 years, our city would be the premier city in the whole entire region. because her standard is uh very high, you know, and and and it's just unfortunate that we've had, you know, times that that even people in in in this room, right? People who who uh they would settle for so much less. They would have settled for the original option, right? We'd be driving by and we'd be seeing warehouse after warehouse after warehouse. The applicant tried to bring it to us, right? And and you know, I mean, I I know that I know that we we we've we've had our discussions about it. I don't hold it uh personal against them, right? But um you know I I I I do appreciate the project that that he's getting whe whether he wanted to or not, right? He's kind of at this time forced to do it. But while talking to residents u compared to the original project which they they absolutely hated, right? And and and and I know that there are surveys that go around, but I've I took those surveys, right? I know what they ask, right? They ask, "Do you want more jobs?" And everyone says yes. "Do you want more commercials?" Everyone says yes. But they don't mention, "Hey, do you want more warehouses?" Right? They never promote that. We see we see in the commercials, we see in the in the flyers, too, right? I mean, just like Councilwoman Nava stated, there's not even a a a rendition from the freeway of what it's going to look like. It's all a commercial and and and we're going to um and and that is something that I hope does come back to us uh for the second reading. And um but while talking to residents about this new project and and I talked to a lot of residents, co-workers and and and and even even young people and I told them, hey, this is what they're proposing. I listed it all, Sam's Club and and Marshalls and and you know, Olive Garden. They were really excited. And I told them about, hey, but it's going to come with a with a parcel hub.

And they looked at that and and they were like, "Well, shoot. I you know what? It's I think it's worth it." Right? Some of them stated, "Wait, wait, but it's going to come with the soccer complex." No, but that comes for phase two. And they were really mad. So, I'm glad we have in writing that that's going to come. That's that was one of my conditions. But as uh but we do have to have conditions, right? And I want to make sure we have it in writing. And uh you know, as as Mr. JC uh Franco alluded to earlier, you know, I I I just don't trust you, bro. You know, so we're going to have in writing. Okay. But I um the sports complex is going to come in in in in phase one. I already had that written down. The Covenant won't ever be a warehouse. Um the um if we could have the remaining MBU state uh that specifically warehouses, business park, parcel hub, and all industrial uses are prohibited. I think we already kind of said that and and I guess this is the main change that I wanted that um the three occupied if we could change it from 75,000 to 176,000 square feet and that would be the Sam's Club, the Marshalls and the Chase who all called me who all said that they're going to come right if we could if we could uh put that as part of the condition. And then um also we gota we got to work with our staff on this. But I think we got it. The funding for the sports complex. I mean if you're giving them a park that's that's on you. But you got to make sure that that that there's a means to maintain it because as we know with the city there we we spend a lot of resources on the parks. We we like it. They're not there for us to make money on, right? We we actually lose money. So we know how expensive they are. So, if you're going to give somebody and you're going to say, "Hey, that's on you to take care of, you know, I I I expect you to be here for a long time, but when you if if ever you're not, if ever a truck that comes along, right, uh we want to make sure that's taken care of. Also, the commercial must have uh 24-hour security. It's a big

it's a big place. And I think I think talking to other cities, they make sure that all their new development, the commercial development has uh security 24 hours. It kind of helps out cut down with the unwanted problems with the the vagrants and um if we could bring back the housing element with some kind of uh some kind of track mass or I guess in what 45 days that's going to come anyways and then obviously for the uh reserve the land for a hospital for 10 years and also good faith effort. So those are basically the the two things was uh 176,000 uh commercial security and I guess uh council member Rab already mentioned it but just make sure the hospital for we reserve that land for 10 years. Are you willing to amend your motion to add those two?

Yes. 176,000 and 176,000 for the commercial aspect before the occupancy certificate would be issued to the parcel hub and then 24-hour commercial security 24-hour security patrol sec guards security guards. Yeah. Yes. I'll add those. So, I'll in my motion to add those two components. And I will still second that as well. And now, keep in mind the second reading is going to come back. We're going to make sure we're good with that. So, right. Um, so, um,

make a quick comment also. Um, I know the second reading is coming, but you know what we're doing is we're just telling staff and Tim to do exactly what we want, but it's it's all verbal. There's no written agreement yet. So, I have no problem continuing it for the next meeting, which is in two weeks, and then we can get a clear a clear understanding and then have a second reading. So then we know that everything that he put in there is real and that he wants to move forward with it. I just we just got bombarded with so much information. I would love just more time to do some more research and do my due diligence to make sure that everything is going to be in place when we vote on it. Because if because if we were to make the motion right now, we're we are just telling them, "Yeah, do this." That's not law that's not law abiding. that's just saying, "Hey, Tim, we really want you to do this, but I want to make sure that it's written." So, Tim, I want to work with you. I want to vote on this. I just want to make sure that everything is official before before I vote yes.

So, Councilwoman Nav, I mean, Vallejo, that's the way we operate on all our projects. That's why we're here now to direct staff what to put in these conditions. Then it comes back in writing and that's when you're going to make the official vote. You're not approving the official thing and we're just making staff come back for a second reading with everything we've asked for and that's your opportunity to read that document and see if you're good too. And my last comment will be asking the the the applicant as well if he's good with all these conditions too. So it's not a done deal zip lock and that's it final. That's why we're going to come back after we if we approve this tonight. I'd like to call the question, but if mayor would like to ask the applicant if he's okay with all the conditions that we've added after that, if he's okay with that, I'd like to call the question.

100% agree. So, Tim, that's part of my my script here and that is I want to make sure you do understand that you're aware and agree with all the conditions of approval.

Mr. Mayor, um, Council Member Vallejo, understand that that um, you want to have this in writing and, um, so do I. Okay. Um, I'd like to get an approval tonight. Staff has been thousands of hours um, making sure that everything's correct. They've worked with the the consultants at EPD that have been here tonight and listened to you and heard you say in writing. I understand that an approval tonight is subject to that second reading. I really want to move on and and and be able to provide the city of Paris with this development. So, I'd ask you to direct staff to put to modify the conditions and give me a vote of approval. You can withhold it at the second reading, but I'm confident that staff will get you to the level of comfort that you need to be at the second reading.

Tim, don't leave the podium. Yes, sir. You need to answer my question. Yeah, I'm Are you aware and agree with all the conditions of approval? Yes, sir. Thank you, Councilman Corona. Well, no, I think I think uh Councilwoman Nava was uh Nava.

Yeah, just real real really brief. I you know I' I've heard everyone everyone's comments now and I don't think this is a laughing matter. This is something that will affect us for years on out. So, the fact that folks are rushing to try to get home because you've already exceeded the hours that you were expecting to be here. Again, this is not a decision that should be taken lightly, but if the council is ready to move forward, however, there was various questions even that were brought up tonight. Where are the lights for the park? Where are what what type of uh fencing is required? Where are all those details? And this project was proposed very vague for a reason. We don't even know what color what uh color the walls of the commercial are going to feel like there's no way to verify that. So, if this continues on to the second reading as council has directed, could you please elaborate? Because I know I've gone through every link and I know my colleagues know that I really go through the agenda and I double check things and as much as I was looking, I could not find certain things that I was looking for. And again, the planning commission was a six-hour long meeting. and because they went on so long and I'm sure folks in the room were probably making background noises as they are tonight just because they're ready to go home. But as a resident, as a your community servant, this is something that I'm not ready to rush on and I don't I don't think our as presented we have the information that we need to make an educated informed decision and I am not fighting against commercial development. I will make that very clear. I am just fighting for our community to do better because we are forgetting the fact that in exchange for this commu commercial development, we will now have to sacrifice 70 acres of what could be additional soccer parks of what could be a bigger hospital. I am trying to get the best uses for our residents and and and at the end of the day if I sound crazy as Howard has said at his

community meetings because I am demanding more and yes there's a constituents who who've come back and told me that that's how you feel at a professional community meeting. It just again speaks volumes of the type of applicant and the fact that you failed the city of Bloomington. Even when we put projects out to bid, we asked for three references. You filled one community. What makes us stand here and say, "Well, what you know you what what makes us different? What can guarantee us?" There's no way that we could verify it. That 850 jobs that you promised, our city doesn't even go out after once this is approved. There's no way of verifying that. There's no way of verifying how much they get paid. There's nothing. If the AC goes out, well, that's going to be their problem. And again, those are my constituents. I want you to have your chase. I want you to have your Sam's Club. I have a membership to Sam's Club. And I my like you all have to drive out to surrounding areas to meet my grocery needs. I have a Costco membership. I have a Sam's Club membership. And of course I want that in my community. But it's just really frustrating that in me hi holding these developers up to higher standards than we're we're I'm I seems like I'm the only one out. Um and again now we see our developer he's he he's been a lot more uh happier I guess since he's seen the direction of council but I just want you you to remember that initially when I was asking him the various questions how quick he was to become frustrated or you so again um if this comes back to second reading there should be a lot more information and I'm and as far as all the things I mentioned so That's all I'm saying for tonight. Thank you.

Thank you. All right. There's no other questions. We'll call the vote. Corona Rab Vargas. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. Nava Ajo. No. Thank you.

Okay. Thank you. All right. Due to the hour, um I want to move that to the next my glasses on. The next two business items, we can move that to another meeting. There there's going to be reports on our annual public safety updates. Um if we can go through our uh item 13, council communications. You guys can be brief. We'll start with Councilman Rab. Like to thank all the speakers for coming out today and sharing your opinions. Uh given the lateness of the hour, I'll forgo communications. I apologize if I use coursearse language. I'm really passionate about this city. Thank you. Vallejo,

thank you for everyone coming up here and sharing your your concerns. We really appreciate you all. Thank you. Nava, I just like to wish our community a happy Black History Month. Mayor Prom, just want to thank your staff for uh job shadow day and uh the park cleanup. Uh uh especially thank you for all the young people that were involved. Thank you. Yeah, it was a good pro program. Okay, I'll forgo all my I do have to give one because we need to get a press release out. But uh Ever, can you put up the slide, please?

Thank you. So through my office and with the help of staff, we took a pledge to uphold the principles of the clean California community program. The initial process was to meet 10 out of 15 criteria items and right out of the gate, we met 13 out of 13 of the requirements through our efforts to name a few. Have an advisory board, which is our beautifification committee, community cleanups, youth education, enforcement policies, stakeholder partnerships, etc. This being said, I did take the pledge and the city did receive notice late January that we were approved and granted the clean California designation. This is the sample of the sign that was going to will be issued to us and we will be able to post that somewhere in our city where we can see fit best. So kudos to staff who who worked on this with me. And uh this is this is a a big one for city of Paris. That's all my comments and city coun city manager.

Have nothing to report. Thank you. Okay. Move to item 15 our time is 11:13. Thank you everybody.