Community Redevelopment Agency - Regular Meeting

You hit it very hard. It is I'm my ears are sensitive.

You know what? I'll get you some cotton balls.

Good afternoon, everyone. Doesn't this this is good for the goose good for the gander type thing. Go ahead.

I'm gonna call the meeting to order of the Community Redevelopment Agency. It is 04:02PM. Chair Burns? Here.

Vice Chair Markert? Deputy Vice Chair Casal? Commissioner Carney? Here. And Commissioner Long?

Here. Okay.

Approval of the agenda. I need an approval.

I move that we approve the

agenda. There's something I Yes.

Oh, said you wanna pull it? Yes. Yes.

There is an item that I would like to pull, and it is item

7d.

7d. I'd like to pull item 7d.

Off consent, it should be on the regular?

Yes.

So that will be item what is the regular?

Eight a a. We'll do that first.

Eight a a.

Eight a a. Gotcha. Alright. Eight a a.

Alright. Are there any other changes?

I move the approval of the of the agenda as amended. Second.

Vice chair, Deputy Vice Chair Casal, Commissioner Carney? Yes. Commissioner Long?

Yes.

And Chair Burns? Yes. Okay, the floor is now open for public comment on agenda and non agenda items.

Hello, Max Zengage, 1705 Northwest 4th Avenue. I have brought some printouts if that's okay to hand out. So Thank you. Somehow, we have reached year five of the International Delray Beach Concord elegance. This is a community effort, a big charitable donation impact mission.

To date, we've raised a $125,000 for Delray Beach charities, keeping all the money in our city for our residents, where we can see the real life impact happen. The the beauty of this event is it's the forty fourth concour in the country. It's the only one that's free and family friendly. Other Concorde's cost $200 to $500 of general admission. We have a 150 cars.

We reject 400 car applications. The least expensive car on the field is a million dollars. The most expensive car is $30,000,000. That means what we're doing is we're bringing those owners to Delray Beach, to our city, to spend an entire weekend of time and money in our city boosting economic development. Year five only grows, and we we feel this is the right year that we should ask for the front lawn expansion of Old School Square.

We have the cars wanting to come in. We have the car owners, the museums from around the world and the country. 15 states transport cars here, and we have 10,000 people as attendees. We're not asking for the green market to be canceled. We're asking for the green market to be relocated for one day to wherever you deem necessary.

And a realistic alternative is the frequently used tennis center parking lot only one block away across the street. We would bring in more attendees for the Concorde, which translates to customers at the green market. So I think the vendors of the green market would also like this. We we do attract the wealthiest individuals in the world right here to our city, and this is really to bring them into our businesses, into our local restaurants, into our hotels. And I've seen some translate into real estate purchases, which have directly impacted our tax base in our city.

It's so much more than a car show. It's a concord that follows national standards. We have global industry leaders come, and they interact with the next generation, with our citizens. Steven has given me his three minutes, if that's okay.

Is that protocol? Yes. Okay. Go ahead. Continue.

Thank you. Now for the people. We have famous international Le Mans winners and racers as speakers. We are the founder of Amelia Island Concord, which is now 30 five years old and has an economic impact of $41,000,000 in Jacksonville. We have retired Cadillac heads of design coming.

These are our speakers, our honorary speakers. What we're coming to you for is to ask you to review and approve or possibly add this to August 28 agenda as an item to vote on for a front line expansion for the Concorde for Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. These cars having a total million total of $500,000,000 of cars, it's very valuable and very it's it's not a fast process, so we have to load in the cars and stage them. That's why we set up on Friday and Saturday and the festivals on Sunday. This year, we're actually adding a feminine vintage picnic on Saturday, so we're having cars come all we're requiring them all to come even earlier.

That that's about it. We we've really come here in advance nine months of of to allow you guys to to plan appropriately and plenty of time to consider the the request. Unlike the Delray affair the week before, that cancels the green market. We're just asking to move it across the street for one Saturday. Anything else?

We have already obtained letters from Diane, who was the former CRA director for fourteen years. She supports this. Jeff Pearlman, who was one of the creators of CRA, he supports this. We have several letters from local leaders that have given this this some thought. We do have 50 businesses that are sponsors of this.

It's a $200,000 event for one weekend. Half of that is in kind donations from our local businesses. So they believe this is good this event is good for their businesses too. I think it speaks for itself, but I think it's a win win win for the green market vendors getting more customers, for our city getting more economic contributors, contributors and for us to grow the event in year five. That's that's it. We're we're happy to do a formal presentation if necessary or meet with the CRA if necessary and come back in August.

Good. Alright. Thank you.

Mantra Bennett, 323 Northwest 2nd Avenue, Derry Beach, Florida. I just wanna simply say, as far as development in the set, I know we're in the process of doing a update or set transformation plan. I think we should stop all development that has to do with the voices and the words of the community before we move forward anything that we're doing next inside of this community as far as the place on 8th, the six seven eight hundred blocks, and renting out facilities to people. Let us update the plan to see where we are, what we need to do, and then move forward with fulfilling these goals and agenda items. Thank you.

Thank you.

George Long, 46 North Swinton. Max is right.

I missed that. Thank you.

He just said Max is right.

Thank you, mister Long.

Good afternoon. My name is Chuck Ridley. I reside at 210 Northwest 2nd Avenue. The hat I wear today is the chair of the coalition. I wanna share with you that the development process in Delray, there's been lots that we've gotten wrong.

And the pieces that we got wrong is that when we allow it to become politicized and not use the infrastructure that you have, meaning your professional staff, following their recommendations, and then moving forward with the process. Here is what you have gotten right. You listen to the voice of the people. There have been three plans that has driven West Atlantic, revitalizations of this region, and that is the West Atlantic redevelopment plan, the Southwest plan, and the set transformation plan. And it's not what has happened.

It's what has not happened on West Atlantic Avenue. And all you need to do is go up to West Palm Beach and look at Tamron and Rosemary, and you'll see exactly how not to do redevelopment in a neighborhood with the demographics that you have here. We've been clear from the beginning that we want neighborhood serving businesses. We've been clear from the beginning we want block by block development. We have been clear from the beginning how to utilize infill to make sure that we've had the type of housing structures that we wanted.

We've been clear from the beginning what we needed to do to make sure that we have the resources for small businesses. You're at a point where we are now discussing and have began to update the set transformation plan. Before you move forward with decisions, allow something that you know work to continue. Delay any decisions about what you should do until you give community its appropriate time to have feedback and input. Thank you for letting me share.

I was just about to clone that. Thanks so much.

It's quite alright. Kyle Holder, 102 Southwest 9th Avenue, Delray Beach, Florida. The hat that I wear today does not matter. What does matter is that I'm here, first of all, to thank staff, for resolving the issue of lighting and trees at the, Reverend Thomas Park. It was great to work with Renee and her staff.

She connected me with Misty and her staff. And surprisingly, in less than thirty days, something actually got done on Southwest 9th Avenue in the heart of Delray. Which brings me to part of the reason why I'm here. I think far too often you hear complaints from the set with no of resolution or no guidelines on how they will step to the plate to work alongside. There is a fear in the set, which is very similar and goes far back long before any of you or I was even here, which goes way back to the establishment of the Negro settlement in which the city council at that time saw fit to join forces with the African Americans in that era and set aside an area for business development homes and so forth and so on.

The fear factor becomes that we are also aware in our history in The United States Of America that in 05/31/1921 going forward to 06/01/1921 in a little city called Tulsa, there was a massacre of black businesses, homeowners, and children and women. Why? Because there was a development or redevelopment which had happened in which the people in that era were not very happy. What basically we have learned now going forward in the fear that we have is that this new administration that we live under in The United States has realized you don't have to spill blood or scorch the earth. All you have to do is gentrify redevelop the property make it so expensive that the people who live there can no longer afford to live there and then therefore you are now able to come in and acquire the property and use it for whichever ill gotten means you desire.

You being those people who really do not care about community. And if there are any questions about what that looks like, I don't have to go all the way to Delray. I mean, all the way to West Palm. I can go right down here on the other side of Swinton where now rent has gotten so expensive that there are more empty businesses there than I can ever remember happening. The joke on our side of town is that it's gotten so expensive for the millionaires now that the billionaires have come in and now they have pushed you to the side.

I urge you before you move forward, please consider this fact. It is very beneficial for all parties involved to work together, not for any one party to try to strong-arm or pull any type of tomfoolery. Thank you very much for your time, and I look forward to working with all of you. Have a good day.

Thank you. Are there any others for public comment?

Azure in project. You all got a letter, I think, from McAster or an email a couple weeks ago. We're interested, obviously, I've tried twice, got recommended by staff twice to redevelop the six, seven hundred and eight hundred blocks of West Atlantic. But in either case were we ultimately selected. We, I think, have a pretty good track record.

If you think about what we've done in Delray, Atlantic Grove, CODA are really the only two significant housing developments in the West Atlantic Corridor that have been built probably in the last fifty years. They both included significant components of workforce housing. We have made, you know, I think when you look at Atlantic Grove, we incorporated many local businesses into the community. We can get this thing done. I think it's going to take a collaborative effort between the neighborhood, the developer, whoever you pick, and the city to make this thing happen.

We can do it. We're the only ones who really have. And I feel that one of the the things that should be looked at, and I know and really, I was here, you know, not to say you should pick me because I know you don't even have an RFP RFP out at this point, but it should be master planned. Okay? I know there's some discussion about, you know, looking at maybe just putting out one block to get a market.

But I'll tell you this, and I and I hope you some of you have gone down and and seen what we did in in Pompano Beach, where we've master planned in the CRA, the East CRA, the Fishing Village development, which I think if you asked anybody there in that city, they'd say it was absolutely transformational. And I think that one of the important things to keep in mind is that to get the kind of uses that you wanna see there, that the neighborhood has told you for twenty five years that they'd like to see there, you need to have a comprehensive approach. And, you know, people, the best commercial users are gonna wanna see the market, etcetera, and some of the other uses, the urgent care, things that we all would like to see out there, the drugstore. They wanna see that the others are going. And if you do it on a block by block basis and you take, for example, one block and fill it all up with the market, it's gonna preclude them from knowing what's going on in the other blocks.

So I'm just really here to say that I I feel that you should put it all out. If you wanna say to people in the RFP, okay, give me a proposal for one block, Do it. That's fine. But you should not foreclose the opportunity for people to develop all three of those blocks together because the synergies that you can create by so doing, I think, will inure to the overall quality of the development and the ability to do more things for more segments of the community. Thanks.

Thank you. Any other public comment? K. Oh, I'm sorry.

Last but not least.

Move move move. Ask.

My name is Jennifer Jones. My address is 639 King Kingbird Circle in Delray. I usually, you see me here. I stand for the Haitian community. I stand for my residents.

But as a community organizer and activist, I just wanna say a few things about affordable housing. For one, I I do appreciate a lot of the work that there is done, like, Corey Isles and some of the CRT projects and some of the things that the CRE has done to make sure that we do have affordable housing in that way, but it continues to be an issue, unfortunately. In 2020, I used to say I can barely afford to move out of my the house that I grew up in to be out on my own, and my my friends and siblings are feeling the same thing, but it's even worse now. And it's hard to find when the housing rate is going so much higher and income is not really changing to match it. I'm hoping that Derry and the CRA is really looking at every pot potential possible opportunities to create affordable housing for a community that really needs not market rate, not workforce housing, but actually for low and medium low income housing, homes that we can afford to live in and where our next generation can actually move into and stay in Derry and continue to contribute to the beautiful that Derry is.

I live in Derry for almost thirty years, I've seen Derry change immensely since 1995. And I just wanted not to feel like Derry is pushing me out to make room for the next generation, but it actually wants to welcome those that have grown up here, love here, and wants to continue to live in Delray. I I feel the same about commercial housing commercial spaces. I have my own small business, and I and I appreciate the fact that in the set, there's the hive, a space where I can actually meet with my clients, and and we can contribute to the pot collectively to have the space. But I can afford to rent in Dare as a commercial space, an office space to meet with my clients because it it's really expensive.

And I know other small businesses that will continue to either be virtual or mobile because they can't have brick and mortar. They can't afford it. And I I know there are plans and projects that exist within the city to make that happen. I really want you to consider what the community needs when these things happen, how we can all work together to make sure that these are markers that are met by what the community is looking for. I I know I've spoken to some of our commissioners in regards to the container projects, and I I don't really know where that's going and how that's moving.

But I know that having a space that is not, you know, a 100,000 square foot to rent is something that would help for a small business that's just trying to get off his feet and just trying to make a presence. I love Derry. I wanna continue to live, work, and support Derry, and I think that we can all do this together in a way that we can afford and continue to grow. That's my comment. Thank you.

Thank you. Going once. Going twice. Okay. Thank you. Public comment close. Moving on with the agenda. I need a motion and a second to

accept the board minutes. I move that we accept the board minutes. Second.

All in favor? Oh, roll call.

Me, ma'am. If could take a Collective motion to approve the consent agenda in its entirety.

Okay. Yes, sir. As amended.

As amended. A motion to accept the consent agenda as amended.

Motion I I move that we accept the consent agenda as amended. Second.

Deputy Vice Chair Casal, Commissioner Carney?

Yes.

Commissioner Long? Chair Burns? Yes. And Vice Chair Margaret?

Now we are This is your 60, right? Number 1, 6.

I think 8, right? The one you pulled?

Yeah. Is that where we are? Okay. It's formerly 7D, right?

Yes. It's 7D, now it's 8AA.

Yes. Well, I wanted to pull this because this is in reference to the 800 Block, and I know this has been a topic of discussion for quite some time. And it is very exciting that, you know, an area that has been deprived of vital investment and resources for quite some time now, you know, this is finally being directed back to this community, the SET. But, as some of the public comments we heard, I think that we need to make sure that we are in line with the current set transformation plan, the neighborhood plan that was developed, and that we are making sure that what we do aligns with that plan and the desires of the community. We have had, I know there's been one meeting for public input on the update of the plan, and there are others scheduled.

And so I think that, you know, as we move forward with this, we need to make sure that we are in lockstep with what the plan outlines. We have three additional public meetings, and you know, we want to make sure that, as we said, that what we do serves the community. This plan is, I think, seven or eight years outdated. So some of the nuances requirements have changed. And so as we're updating the plan, we're looking at what we need, what has been done, what are the new needs, and so I want to make sure that what we do aligns with what that update says and the plans of the CRA for this area.

So, I'm glad you brought that up, commissioner. I'm sorry, chair. What what would that look like if we were to try and work more in tandem with the set transformation plan updates? How would that change our schedule on this? Do you think based on I I was told there's gonna be a session in August. Does that get us to a point? Like, where where are we at in this with the set transformation plan, and how much would it, I guess, slow us down on this front if we were to try and work more in lockstep like chair Byrne suggested?

So we had one meeting so far and I think from that meeting, we will need to probably have three meetings in additional. So we've scheduled we're trying to schedule another one we believe, in September. I think it's or no.

August something. August 18 is the next one. And two others. And then there is a second date after that. Hold on. I can for September 3. Right.

And we might need one more because the first meeting was supposed to kind of be an introductory to the six pillars in the plan. But I think we need to dig a little bit deeper. So the next meeting is gonna go back in connection with the community. Mr Ridley, a few others, we've been meeting pretty much consistently to talk about what we want to do with this update. So we're trying to make it a collective effort so it's not just seeing us or government doing it.

So the next meeting would hopefully be more community led that they're able to see where this plan has come from, how it got to where it is now and where the plans are for the future. Then after that we would pick up the pillars again. So we'd have two more meetings to dig into six pillars. Timing wise, we probably would have it I'm hoping it's finished by the end of the year. We had thought maybe September, October, but it may need a little bit more work. So

I mean, I'd be open to pausing this at least until the next meeting, until after this set transformation meeting happens, and then we could maybe reevaluate the timeline from there.

So we would basically table it then till the August meeting?

I'd I'd be open to table this. I listen. I don't wanna put this off any longer than we have to either. I think that we really need to be moving forward on it, but I also agree that we do have an opportunity. Now we're finally updating the set transformation plan. It would behoove us to be working in unison, like, kinda make sure we're going in the same direction. But so since both these things are kind of converging, I'd like to try and line up on them. But I don't wanna do it at the expense of really punting this too long. So I think let's at least, like, maybe look at this again at the next meeting and then reevaluate what the timeline looks like. That would that work for everyone? What do you guys think?

Well, I mean Go ahead. I've I've always taken the position that, you know, that the set transformation as we as we as it deals with the the neighborhood aspect and development neighborhoods is extremely important as well as all the the streets north and south in terms of business development. But I don't wanna forget that this portion of Atlantic Avenue is the gateway to the city. So it's relevant to the entire city what goes on here. And I've always I mean, I know there's a when I'm called to set, I call it West Atlantic.

I think ultimately, we all have the same goal to get development here. And I don't wanna slow the process up, but I I don't wanna ignore the fact that we have marketed Atlantic Avenue as something. And when you talk about the DDA, you're talking about the city, you're talking about the CRA, we all have the same interest in getting these these parcels developed. Yeah. And I'm confident we can all work together to get there.

So, I mean, I I I as I said, I was on the CRA when these parcels were being acquired, and we talked about developing them since then. So I I punting it any I mean, it you wanna do a month, that's fine. But I I don't because I do think we all all should be in aligned in what we wanna do here. Yeah. But there's all kinds of reasons why we need to move forward with this Yeah.

Including trying to develop a tax base in this portion of the city city that could be reinvested by into the city, largely by the CRA. When you talk about the trying tax incremental value that is going to be a result at the development of these properties, you know, Renee's gonna have a big wad of cash to spend. And and we're gonna be able to increase our salaries, thankfully.

Thankfully, we'll increase our salaries. Like, you Hollywood did.

Like like dollar would be nice.

Plus zero.

Yeah. A dollar would be nice. So that's all I'm saying. I don't wanna punt it too. I mean, I I'm I was so delighted when we started to actually do the RFP and it fell through. That was fine. But I I really just wanna and whether we decide ultimately whether the the the plan is to get one developer to do all three because they can do it, you know, they but in line with what we want for each parcel or do them separately, I'm really fine with whatever's gonna make the thing work as fast as it can get it to work. So that I you know

Well, so the one we're talking about is the the containers.

This is 8th Avenue, not the

North West. This is Northwest.

No. But I'm going on to because I know this is the same topic that's gonna come up when we talk about number eight a.

So I was gonna ask about that too if it's gonna go because

eight a

I understand

because they're all the same. I understand the the the thing across the street. And I've had my reservations about that parcel in 8 88 anyway, as you know.

Yes. Yes.

So but I'm I You're covering two birds at once. Well, I mean, I I I get it. I I But we're talking about that container price. Asking additional questions.

I thought we were talking about I actually also thought we were talking about the the other RFP. I thought we were talking about the 600 to 800 blocks.

I thought you were too, but that's why I was The

one that I pulled Northwest 4.

My apologies. So this is about the container. Yes.

Yes. I will for the

And I've had my reservations about that, so I'm delighted to that one. That is one that we really should we have an opportunity for the neighborhood to participate and see what they want.

I

think that's important. I was

I feel differently about that parcel than I do about the ones across the street.

But Actually, we can go ahead. We thought

we were on, like, eight a. Well, we're

on 8 A. We're 8 A A A.

So 8

A So too.

Yeah. I was thinking this. I was thinking we're on 8 A. Okay. So that's why I was confused. That's what I want to stall on, by the way. Just for the record, that's what I was talking about.

I knew I knew I knew.

In terms of this one

Where are you now? 88 A. Yeah. Let's get the 8 a first.

Yes. So 800 Block. No. 888 Northwest is the country. A modular The modulars. Yes.

Modular. And I agree that all of it should, you know, be in lockstep with the plan. However, this item happens to be the the container modular project

that we're discussing right now.

I mean, I feel a little differently about this one because we've there's been so much effort and resources already been devoted to it, and it's like we're at the finish line with this one. I'd I'd hate to just pull the rug out from under it and start from ground zero again on this. You know? We wouldn't

be starting from ground zero.

Okay.

Well, do you wanna table both then? If we're if we're tabling eight a and eight a a, especially to be here to talk

I about think so because

I'm fine tabling both when we have the whole board meeting. Absolutely. We'll leave it at that. That's fine.

That's fine. Table. But my

my greater point was for the other thing just for the record.

So I I make a motion that we table 70 now eight eight eight eight Yes. To the next to to I'm sorry?

You need a time certain.

How about to the next meeting?

August 28,

next August 28.

August 28. Is there a second? Four '30 three.

Second. Yeah.

Thank There's no discussion or motion to table.

Thank you. We need a call to roll. Yes. Call to roll.

Commissioner Carney?

Yes.

Commissioner Long?

Yes.

Chair Burns? Yes. Vice chair Margaret and deputy vice chair Cassell?

Thank you. So we're on to

Mister chairman, I I'm just concerned because I have I'm gonna have to be I'm gonna have to leave here 20 of. I'm concerned that you will no longer have a quorum.

We're gonna be finished.

Okay. Good. I believe that we adjourn. Sprint through.

Not yet.

Eight a.

Eight Eight a, we're tabling.

Everybody on board.

Separate motion. Right. So we need a motion to table eight a.

So moved. No, ma'am. No.

Separate motion.

But I make a motion I make a motion that we table eight a until the August 28 at

The next meeting.

04:34.

Prolonging

your time now, so

you got to

Commissioner Long?

Yes.

Chair Burns? Yes. Vice Chair Markert, Deputy Vice Chair Casal, and Commissioner Carney?

Yes. Yes. So now we're on new business. Correct? Am I? Are we on new business? Yes, ma'am. Yes. Renee?

Yes. Okay. So we'll do this really quickly. So, you know, the last couple of years we've been discussing to making modifications to the a guide program, which is the program where we help fund nonprofits. So with the changes in legislatures over the last couple of years, of the nonprofits that we were supporting previously we no longer are able to.

So this is I think finally the year where it's transitioning and shifting over to the city. The only category that we could in fact keep was affordable housing. So this item is just to basically accept modifications to the AGUIDE program based on that, just for affordable housing. And those are for supporting affordable housing organizations that are on city or CRA property. And the backup has all of the program guidelines. If we want to table this one too we can but we've showed this to you guys last year. We're just bringing it back for you guys to

reach out Sure, Chairman. Let me just ask a clarification. Yes, absolutely. So essentially what we're doing is we're taking out of the a guide stuff, the stuff that we're really not allowed to do anymore and just keeping in the ones we're allowed to do.

Correct. Yep. Okay. Exactly. Right here. So this is the the table. It was recreational, cultural facilities

Right.

Economic, business development. So we've just scratched those two out and it's just a

As a recall from the statute, we don't have any options here anyway. Right. We don't

have No. We have yeah. Those we had to take out. Yeah. So

this just I'm ready to so I'm I make a motion that we I'm sorry.

No. I'm

make a motion that we that we modify the a guide as presented in your presentation.

Okay. Second. Thank you.

Chair Burns?

Yes. Yes.

Vice chair Markert? Deputy vice chair Kissel? Yes. I'm chair. Commissioner Carney?

Oh, yes. Oh, I entered for you? Yes. You did. I'm chair.

But we're separated by women. Today today I'm

Let's put Adam Franklin's

name back get on the did you

did Carney?

Yes.

And commissioner Long?

Yes. Man, this is okay.

He has four Four minutes. Last item

can't get rid of me fast enough. I understand that.

I have to speed talk. Okay. So this last item, as you if you drive down Southwest 5th Avenue, can see that we're near completion with the 95 Southwest 5th Avenue building. It was a new construction. Think we have a picture of it right here. So we've been talking about making this available for medical service providers. We've had a lot of discussions about it for several years. We put out a basic flyer saying that that's what we were looking for is for medical service space. We didn't really have a process necessarily. We were just trying to get the interest out there in the medical community.

And I'm happy to say that we've had actual doctors call us, primary care physicians who are interested. They take insurance, Medicare, Medicaid. But we don't really have like a structured process. So that's where this item is discussed. If we were looking at putting out the entire building to one medical group or if we wanted to break it up to specific doctors, but I think the biggest thing is we want to make sure that they are attainable medical services, that they're providing Medicare, Medicaid insurances and not like a concierge type service or like a medical spa.

We want actual physicians that are providing services for neighborhoods. And the rent amounts, which all of ours are always very affordable, I'll comment that on our 98 North West 5th Avenue building, the rents are between $18 and $21 a square foot. So we are not here to have these high absorbent of rents. They're extremely low. We don't know what we would propose for this building yet.

I think we would have to see what comes in. But the biggest question that we have is really if you all wanted to see one medical group come in for the whole building or put it out there for individual doctors or both, offer that opportunity for both. And we can either do a formal request for proposal process, we've done a more informal notice of intent to lease or a Jot form application which is what we've done for our other applicants where it's like an online program where we have questions that they have answer, put in their business information, their financials. It's more of a discussion as opposed to like a closed RFP process. So that's really what we're looking for So

I would say both. However, the request that you've received, is it both or have you received from single

It's one. So we have one doctor, she's interested in one space upstairs. So she was a physician who's also board certified for dermatology and she wanted a smaller space upstairs. There was also a dentist that was interested in the downstairs unit. So the interest that we had is not for the whole building. They individual practitioners that needed smaller spaces.

Okay. I I mean May I

No. Go ahead.

I think

that if you're gonna have a building, if someone wants to take two bays, they can. I think we need the flexibility because the key is we would like medical service there. The only thing I would caution, and this is gonna be something you're gonna have to make sure that whatever medical practices are gonna be established here, that they will be like a full time practice. I don't want it as a satellite office for some doctor in in Deerfield who come wants to come up here one day a week. I mean, I want it to be a practicing office. Correct. That's the only caution.

What's your recommendation?

Well, think it's because of what we're looking for, probably smaller doctor's offices that would be there all the time. A bigger medical group might just be blocking it out and they may have other locations and this is just like their Delray location. But that could be what we want. So that's why I wanted to bring it up. Because of the interest we've received, I think maybe going the individual route would be good. Think I if we do that, we'd also have to maybe revisit a commercial property manager just to help us now that we're acquiring more of these assets to keep. The reason we've been keeping them is to keep the rents low as a as part of our redevelopment big picture, but it is a lot for us to manage these individual buildings. So we could do either but I think because of the interest we've received and we have them still interested, it might be something we can pursue splitting the building up.

Okay.

That way.

I I think that you could should go with the interest that you've received and you know, being flexible. We don't wanna be the same as everyone else and allow people that need a smaller space to have a smaller space.

I move that we, what's the motion?

We need a motion for necessarily but You

got a consensus.

Consensus. Yeah.

You've got

a consensus. We've given you directions.

We have yeah. We'll send you the the jot form. We'll send you everything before to look at it and we'll have a date there if you wanna make modifications you can. But we will put everything out to you before.

Okay.

Alright. Do

have a quick comment though. I wanted to address Max and

Sorry, AJ's I'm sorry, you just lost the quorum.

I was just gonna say, so we have to end the meeting.

Yes ma'am.

Okay, That's what I

I'll save my comments till later, Rob. I guess you have no

I wanted to. Comments. Okay. So You don't

We're off the record.

Okay. My meeting just stopped.