Community Enhancement Board - Regular Meeting

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Hi. Hi, everyone.

Hello.

How's it going? Hey, brilliant, Chris. Everything good?

Great. Andy, how are you?

Good, thank you.

Commissioner Darrow, I should say.

Hi, Andy.

um oh i see chris has just joined i think jacob is joining as well so we should well actually we should have quorum anyway yeah i'm on oh hey jacob

Good afternoon, how is everybody? Good.

Hello, Chris.

We're streaming live on Facebook.

I believe so. I think, well, we have four now, and given we have a quorum, I think we can start.

Yeah, good afternoon, Commissioner Darl. Good afternoon, Frank. Good afternoon, Chris.

Good afternoon.

All right, let me get my stuff ready to take some notes. I'll be standing by and we'll start. Is Jacob going to be joining us?

Jacob has joined. He's on the anonymous iPhone.

Got it.

Jacob's joining from South Africa, everyone.

There he goes. Nice. Yes, yes.

What time is it there, Jake?

It's 1230.

All right. Let's get this underway.

He's in the middle of a game track.

So I'll call this meeting of tonight's community enhancement board to order Thursday, April 30th at 6.30 PM. I'll proceed with a roll call. So Jacob Petrini.

Here.

Yes. Chris Cotton.

Christopher Cotton, secretary, here.

Nick Quay?

Absent.

Absent. And let me just... I'm having some technical troubles here.

Take your time, take your time.

All right.

OK. So we have a quorum. So next item up on the agenda is approval of the February 25 minutes. Has everyone had a chance to review? And thanks for preparing those, Chris.

Yes, yes, you're welcome, you're welcome. It's always last minute trying to get to it, but what are you going to do?

No, we appreciate it. Can I have a motion to approve and a second?

Approved.

A motion to approve? Second. Great, excellent.

Minutes are approved.

So before we move into the items, number three on the agenda, the third item on the agenda today was all business, which was updating on the board action tracking document. I wanted to note that this is now attached to the agenda as a PDF. So thanks to everyone, Lily and Isabel and the staff who have attached that. I'm sending it in once a month.

Oh, I see it here. Very cool.

Yeah, so the intention is that that becomes our primary tool for tracking progress now. I wanted to take a couple of minutes just to get some updates from people who are listed as the primary point of contact, 30-second updates based on what is in progress. and pending updates on this list. There's only two or three key issues I just wanted to grab some updates on. So I'll start with one, I'll start with number, I want to start with number 13, which was just the community center grand opening and center signage, which we had as a pending update. I had Lily as the owner of that. I know it's been a couple of months since this was brought up, but Lily, how do you have, can you fill in the group on the grand opening?

Yes. Hi there. So our community center grand opening event will be Thursday, June 4th from 5 to 8 p.m. And We're really excited. So as you guys know, we have the ad hoc committee helping get sponsorships for this event. You guys are also welcome to help us get sponsors for this event. And again, any ideas you may have are always welcome. It should be fun. Sorry, I'm trying to keep it brief. I know we need to jump up.

That's excellent. Everyone's invited to that, is that right, Lily? Yes. Fantastic. Fantastic. We should definitely make a point of going there.

Is that June 26? Is that still the target timing?

June 26 is my birthday now. There you go. There you go. All right. Thursday, June 4th will be the event.

June 4th?

Yep. Great. Actually, on that, on the same topic, Lily, we had in here, in my tracker, I had you to give an update on community center signages.

You mean like Alpha and North Bay Village, like the signage on the front of the buildings?

Yes.

Okay. Yeah, so that is pretty much taken care of.

Okay, great. That is very good to know. It was mainly for this board's information as to whether this was something we needed to continue to track. Another thing on my list before we move into the... on the future of the forward-looking business is the bus shelters. Commissioner Dara, do we have an update on the bus shelters installation timeline?

Yeah, we do have update. They're being demolished starting in August is what was informed to me. So August, the old ones would come down and then they'll phase in the new ones between August and the end of the year. that's how it was explained to me last by the village manager. So that's the plan. Expect them to come down in August and the new ones to start rolling out after that.

Oh, great. Excellent.

Yeah, would be good to... Get this one done.

Absolutely. How many are we installing? And how many are coming down?

Is it seven? Frank, are you on the call still? Are you? I don't know if he's hearing in. I believe it's seven.

Okay. That seems like it could be... That seems doable in a matter of like... Yeah.

I mean, it was just... A few months. Yeah, you wouldn't think that it should be a full job, but I guess they're taking them down and replacing them one by one. So starting August.

All right.

All right, so I'm here. Hi, Frank. Hi, Frank. So we had a meeting yesterday with the contractor and with FDOT. Quite lengthy, going over all the rules of FDOT to be able to work on the causeway. So we were in there for a couple of hours as we went through this lengthy document with the contractor of all the obligations and restrictions and requirements with different reports. And it's just a lot of bureaucracy. But we muddled, you know, got through it. The contractor understands. So they have to mobilize. They have to order the structures, which they're in the process of doing now. I've asked to get a render. We have specifications of the structure, but you can't tell what it looks like from the specifications. So I've asked them for some renderings of what are these things going to look like. We know they're predominantly glass on the three sides. very simplistic design but everybody wants to see them you know what do they look like what are we getting so i made that request again yesterday to get with the manufacturer and get us some rendering so we can pass them out and get them around to the neighborhood so they can see what's coming and they'll do one at a time and we have to coordinate with the bus people so they have the temporary place where the people go to get picked up that's in the vicinity of where the new shelters are going in and so we're not demolishing them all at one time because obviously the other ones are in operation and then there's And the drawing, there's five because there's five shelters right now, but there'll actually be six because the one that's in front of Benihana right now is just a bus bench and there'll be a shelter going in there too. So there'll be six shelters in total. And they're figuring out right now where they're going to start because of some of the construction that's going on down by Continuum and Choma. has an impact, especially with the one in front of Shoma. There's one right there on that sidewalk.

Okay.

So, you know, it's moving along.

That's fantastic. That's great. Excellent. I did have one other item on my rolling agenda, but I'm going to keep that for the new businesses at a later point because it relates to Alexi's comments and our discussions last time about the shade system. um shade structure examples for future park planning um we have an agenda item that's about north bay village parks so alexi i'll shift your i'll shift our update on the rolling agenda to that future agenda to that agenda item in due course um also i alexi i didn't include you on the roll call so uh chris can we amend can we can we amend the um Roll call to include Alexi Segal, who I see is on the call.

Oh, I mean, I wrote it on here anyway. 6.34, roll call. Alexi's alphabetical order. He had the first name in here, Alexi, and then you, Bree, alphabetical order here. So I got him on here on the roll call. I was looking at Neo. Yeah, and I had pulled up the participants of it.

My computer is only showing a certain number of people before you have to toggle through various new pages. So thanks for that. It's OK.

I was distracted, but I'm here.

All right, moving on. First item here is the discussion on emergency and disaster relief trailers. Does someone have a ownership or does someone want to take this?

So that's me. It's sort of like it's dual purpose. So this is a business that my wife and her father started. It's called Rapid Deployables. So I was going to share materials before the meeting, but I was instructed to show them at the meeting. So, am I able to share my screen? It's easier for me to share a quick video versus explaining exactly what it is and I can sort of take you through some things because it's sort of a dual purpose topic. If I click share.

Let me try to make you co-host.

That's good, that's good.

Hold on. All participants are able to share their screen.

Yeah, yeah, you should be able to share.

Okay. Thanks, Johnny. Can you guys all see this? The YouTube video?

It's on you right now, so it hasn't shared yet. It's still on your screen. But you might be looking at your screen on the Zoom if you go open it. What about now? No, still you. Still me. Yeah.

Please grant browser access to screen recording.

Yeah, there you go.

You're good?

Yeah. How long is this, Alexi?

It's a minute.

Okay. All right. Yeah.

It's great. Do you have two screens? Do you have two screens up or just one?

You see it now or no?

No.

Hmm. So how about this? I got an idea. I will put it, the link in the chat so you can maybe watch it on mute. Um, we don't have a chat. Okay. So essentially what it is, it's a trailer that's, you know, towable by pickup truck where the sides come down and a tent pops out. Um, and so it becomes a, 430 square foot, fully air conditioned, enclosed space. And right now they're working with the National Guard, federal agencies, federal and prime contractors. And it was initially designed as a glamping unit, which has a bathroom and a kitchen, drop down deck, all of that stuff. But now, you know, they have a few friends in the military and they said, why don't you rip everything out? These would be great for disaster relief. So basically it's a cargo transport. When it's closed up, it could fit about 8,000 pounds in it. Then when you get to where you're going, you open it up. So you can imagine in disaster relief areas, it could be sleeping quarters, command center, a canteen, pretty much anything you want, medical, anything you could fit within a 430 square foot space. Um, but another side of their business is like experiential marketing. So like VIP lounges, gyms, um, you know, things of that nature. Um, I think Coachella or, you know, other big festivals. Um, so it's sort of a dual purpose. One, they, you know, have gone from working with this federal level and also now looking at this, uh, state and local level, um, And I could send over the materials. And if this is something that, I don't know, Andy, uh, really think could be interesting, we can maybe present it to the commission. Um, you know, because we live on an island and then, you know, God forbid a hurricane hits and people are displaced or need a place to sleep or a place where they could get food and supplies or medical needs. Um, you know, the village could rapidly deploy. It opens in 15 minutes with two people, but also. I think they mentioned in the last call that there needed to be some temporary space in the community center or the parks. So this could also be used during that time as a fully air-conditioned space. They could build it with a bathroom in it. as an empty shell that could be basically configured, you know, day to day, whether it's needed for, you know, snacks and drinks, whether it's needed for like a cool down room. So anything of that sort. So last week, last meeting when they mentioned the community center, I thought, wow, that could be a great idea for the village to get one of those and use it. Even we're speaking to some people for some, use it as temporary classrooms. because their school is being completely redone. So they're gonna have a few of them on their property and use them as classrooms. So if that is something you think the village might be interested in,

um yeah i i wouldn't i would actually was at this point alexi because i think it's it's one thing it's certainly one thing for um the uh village to kind of consider whether or not we should look at um like emergency trailers and that sort of thing um but i would know for the record given it and it's clearly a personal relationship and a potential conflict of interest in the context of the procurement of the village and the very strict policies and conduct that exists around it. At this point, I'm not sure it's something that the board, without conferring with what the village policy is on discussion of immediate families business on the board. I'm not sure where, I'm not sure the extent to which we should necessarily be discussing this any further. Frank, do you know, do you have any insight on this?

Well, it was a little sketchy coming through. I get the gist of what he was talking about. I don't know from where, this is a He's representing a business or a family business. It's very difficult for me to follow. It's very broken up coming through.

Yeah, I think what it would be helpful to do is to, rather than trigger any potential ethics or code issues under kind of Florida local governance norms right now, and certainly to preserve the optics of the impartiality of this board, um i think we should kind of like perhaps keep the discussion to a more general uh keep the discussion more generally to the issues of whether or not emergency trailers of this kind of of this kind of description is something that the village could consider and whether it's more generally something we as a board could make a recommendation about i mean i i would suggest if there's something of that nature

to send it directly to me with whatever video you have. I'll pass it on to our emergency manager in the police department who was involved with FEMA and the emergency management in the county and so forth and see if there's a use, you know, a potential use for us or something of that sort. But you can send it directly to me at the, you know, village headquarters.

Sure. Yeah.

No problem. Yeah, good point, Bree. I think when Alexi brought that to me, I said maybe, hey, let's discuss it in the community enhancement meeting. So I didn't think of anything like that. I just thought that... worth a discussion on the agenda, so I had made that suggestion to him to talk about it here.

Like I said, I'm sure there's certainly merit, I think, in discussing the general need or utility of something like this within the village, more broadly speaking, rather than the specifics.

Awesome. Okay. And then on the ShadeNet, I have the pictures and videos.

Great. Actually, Alexi, would you mind holding that until we get to the parks discussion, which I think is number four on this agenda?

Yeah.

Excellent.

No problem.

It's number five on the agenda. um okay oh excellent so moving moving to item 4b which is the discussion on the island walk this has a few moving parts so helpfully the agenda is being broken down into four sub parts Jacob I think this is something that you have been looking into do you want to update the group

Yeah, I mean, I think the biggest update on my side is, let me just pull up my notes from last time. At least from the side of like Grandview Palace, I did chat with some of the board directors in that building. And so it I think it's probably useful information to help inform how we might proceed in areas similar to Grandview Palace's easement to the water. So they were concerned on a few things. had old shots more than like a formal declaration of anything like that. But so there have been cases where there have been some like homeless encampments by the river and underneath the river. Um, I've noticed them myself and the villages quickly removed things like shopping carts with, um, food and stuff or just, uh, items. So that was definitely one concern. So just that happening around the bridge area. The second was that the sidewalks privately owned and that they would be concerned about slips, falls, injuries to the public that happens on that and that Grandview Palace and the owners within Grandview Palace would be responsible for any thing that happened in that area. So I think From a discussion standpoint, I think it would be interesting to see what precedent maybe exists in other areas. I don't know how it works in Brickell and other parts of the city where they do have open access to the water. Is there some sort of signing over that public walkway or does the building itself take responsibility for that? I guess the spot that I think of most would be the marina right over the venetian and i don't know what that agreement is there but that is a public kind of easement into the park and then there's the marina and there's the building with restaurants right there so um so that's kind of where gravy palace kind of stands casually on the topic but i do think some of their concerns are are worth our discussion and trying to figure out what a solution could be to bring to buildings like that

I imagine these concerns aren't exclusive to Grandview Palace. I agree. I imagine that these are probably concerns shared amongst whichever else, which the other buildings that are potentially limiting their engagement on this as well.

Yeah, I would agree. I'm curious, Frank or Andy, I don't know if you guys are, or Frank, I know you've been in the business a long time. I don't know if you're aware of any kind of agreements, public, private partnerships where folks look at spaces like this and how liability might change or even like Moda, for example, like they have their island walk and obviously that's public. So I don't know how they assume responsibility for incidents that may or may not happen in that area.

Commissioner, you want to jump in on this? I know this is your baby, but I can tell you that we have sent letters. Our attorney has sent letters out to all the places that are supposed to be open to put them on notice.

I think that's going to be general when we get there for an update on where we stand currently. But I think you were just asking more currently about the overlap between the liability between the public and the

private correct well that was the question yeah so like grandview palace is technically a private area and so if we want to convince them to open it up then we'd need then their concern is around liability or something right so it was a more based on um who's responsible for uh

safety of the Island walk. Um, so maybe Frank, if you could give me a better general guide.

I think it would depend on, uh, commissioner, you know, almost every one of these, uh, agreements is different and, uh, who's responsible and who, who pays, who do we, do we name the private property additionally insured by the village? A lot of that is being worked with better understanding or better language in the new ones that are going to be coming up online, like what's going to be on the causeway behind Continuum and all that. But every one of them has different nuances about who's responsible for maintenance, who's responsible for trips and falls and that type of thing. So it depends on which documents you pull out. Yeah. And then whether people say today, oh, no, that's not what that means. We didn't vote on that. I mean, it's a hodgepodge of things, as the commissioner is well aware, with the locations that are resisting the opening these things to the public.

I'm sorry.

No, no, go ahead.

I was going to say, I think on this vein, Frank, I think it's less so on what documents may or may not exist today and then past, and more so is there the ability, I guess, for the commission, and I guess, Andy, you'd have to probably bring it to the commissioners to say, hey, can we go to these private buildings with the intention to say, hey, the city would cover this in some sense at no expense or in little expense to the buildings itself to entice them to open it up. and what that could potentially look like.

You talked about the Grandview Palace. I can tell you on that we have made several approaches to get that open, and they are steadfastly saying no.

Yeah, I think I can definitely help on that. I guess I'm curious what have been some of those bullet points. Have we offered those things already, and they're just ignoring them?

I met with the board. of the Grand View, their main objective was from the Island Walk North Plaza. They thought that it was a security concern, according to them, of people coming in. That seemed to be their main objective. I mean, look, the Island Walk is open from the center, so I think it's... Yeah, it's silly. It's a little silly, right. If someone wants to get there, they can get there, but... it was met whatever reason pretty adamantly by the current board that they didn't want that gate open. And it's pretty frustrating. I mean, I, uh, I put an office space, the first one next to the gate. Now, if nobody's seen it, you know, I have, um, I don't mind. I mean, I still open it. You know, it's my liability. I keep stuff in there. I have no concerns and wish fully that the Island Walk would be open as one of their retail locations there now. But still, no progress, unfortunately.

Another objection that they had was the security of the marina. the marina people are very concerned about access to their boats.

I can guarantee that they never brought that to any marina owner, that they themselves made that decision on their own for sure.

I mean, like this, it seemed to be communication of the specific board, right? I would say, what is there, like 400 units at the Grand View? I would think the majority of them would probably prefer that the Island Walk is open, could bring foot traffic to Petra Lunga, other restaurants, and just enjoy the bay. But unless there's a change of the guard at Grand View, I think you're going to have the same opinions. The board members that I had met with seemed a little bit old school in their mentality there. And that is what it was. I didn't push it much further after our personal meeting with them. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. When does Grandview have an election on the board? Does that change every year?

What is it?

Jacob was just in the running. Yeah, I just ran and lost because it's pretty old school there. Yeah. The board president can't run again, so next year there will at least be one spot that opens up again.

Okay. I mean, I think that would be the important feedback. I mean, getting somebody in there from the leadership of the board that, you know, seems to dictate what they do as a whole, unfortunately. I mean, they're not going to open that up to, like, a voting matter for the whole association. It seems like the board gets that decision.

Yeah.

I don't know if there's any other enforcement things that we could do to open that because the Grandview is one of the ones that is what they called grandfathered in, which comes before the development agreements of the city, which is basically everything from 2000 onward, which is the update of where we are on the island walk that I can share from my end about 60 days ago or more. Beginning of the year, we had our attorney, you know, we got the commission to approve to send a letter out to all of the buildings to open up their island walk. They had 60 days. Now, I'm assuming most of them have not opened up the island walk. We have heard back from a couple. So at the next meeting, we will have a discussion about that. What is the aptitude of, you know, to enforce it? What can we do to actually enforce this now? So the discussion would be, you know, it was suggested last meeting that, look, at least we start with a citation. We put it on notice that if this thing does go to court, you know, that we've notified them to open and they refuse to. So I think that would be the first step. That would be my first suggestion to put them on, you know, a formal notice that we've made the request for the Island Walk to be open and it was denied. And then I guess ultimately it comes down to if they still continue to fight, will we have the majority of people on the commission that would support the legal enforcement to open it. I do understand that our development agreements with, you know, basically everyone again built since 2000 onward is in our favor very clearly that that space is meant to be public access. Yeah, island walk, you know, for for our community.

yeah yeah yeah i think like if we're talking about legit if if from what i hear we have liability we have safety and we have security so those are the main concerns that we're dealing with i think the liability question really rests solely with the village attorney um we probably need clarity from then and that from them that seems like it's far more a commission issue than our board issue in terms of what exposure the village would actually assume under these kinds of proposals. But I think we as a board could definitely propose, I mean, I think this comes with it squarely within our purview in terms of perhaps security and safety. We can can certainly put proposals forward which design the walk in such a way that we minimize the unintended use of the space in the way that they're concerned about. So through design and management, be that through lights or lighting through kind of like perhaps patrol is like a little bit beyond our boundaries. But certainly thinking of the specific design of the island walk and how if we were to go to say Grandview Palace or the other buildings that have expressed a skepticism about it and try and understand what might they like to see what we could do to entice them to kind of open it from a design um from a design perspective are there things we could i actually never really walk um outside my neighborhood at night just because it's easier but are there things we can you know walk around the neighborhood and note as like

safety measures that their village like has in place in other areas where there's open you know open walking and get listen at that you know these points along the water we have these types of lights and we have these you know emergency phones or these types of measures that we would implement um in your island walk to ensure the safety and you know we can point to other areas where there's been infrequent incidents and say like these have served as a good deterrent, you know, like we could sort of point to what's already working now and show them that we could do that here.

I mean, we don't have any cameras or anything like that in the village. Um, So I don't know. I mean, we only have the track record that there hasn't been any really negative. I stick to there hasn't been any island walk incidents recorded since the, you know, Moda or anything has been open. So we have a history of safe, you know, peaceful enjoyment of the space. But any other type of like cameras or something, you know, we don't. We don't have. Grandview has cameras. They do.

Yeah, maybe some individuals do have, yeah. Well, the gym's right there, and that's part of the HOA, and so is the other, and so is the marina. But I can take a takeaway here and kind of work on some bullet points in terms of what we could do to maybe entice them or other buildings that are interested in this. And then similarly, I think for the legal piece, put together some bullets or maybe questions that we can have for the village attorney to kind of consider what is the village open to in these cases where... It is a private space and we are hoping to entice the building to open it up.

Yeah, absolutely. I think that's a great idea. Frank, do we have an updated island walk map? That was something that I think was brought up a few months ago. I understood the map was in flux.

Well, there is an existing map. that certainly we can share with you and provide. It shows what's open, I mean, at the time and what's not open and that type of thing. But that's easy to produce and send to members. I can send that to members of the board. Yes, please.

Yeah, we'll circulate that map. They do have something. It was, if I'm not mistaken, created as part of NBV 100. It hasn't been updated significantly from then because it just labels basically public right of access, grandfathered lot, and then it basically labels development site will be public access in years to come. It's basically like a three-color coded system. So if you haven't seen that map, we'll share it. It is an NBV 100, and it might be on our website as well, but we'll circulate it.

OK, that's great. All right. We should note for the record, next steps will be circulating that map and for further analysis slash information pooling to be done by Jacob. All right, next topic is sidewalk hedge clearance.

What was that? What was the topic?

Discussion on sidewalk hedge clearance.

Yeah, so this is on me. I think just occasionally when I walk, I guess it depends on the side of roads and some of the owners, but oftentimes I'll find that the hedges kind of come 30%, maybe up to 50% into the sidewalk, kind of obscuring the walking path. as well as, I mean, I think I'll add this in here. We have signs that are just in the middle of sidewalks, at least on Treasure Island. I haven't really noticed as much in the other islands as much, but curious, like where does the hedges kind of fall in terms of like city purview or is it the individual owners? And then- I guess on the signage piece in the middle of the sidewalks, is this something that we think we can work with Public Works to kind of transfer the actual signs to a spot that's not in the way of walking?

Yeah, yeah. And I would say it's more a question, I mean, it is aesthetics, but it's more a question about pedestrian safety and just general accessibility, right?

Yeah, I legit had to deal with that this morning, walking the dog. Somebody was coming around the corner there with their bike and I was walking the dog and between the edges and the sign, one of us had to like walk into the street to like go around. Like you couldn't really walk through there. It's only in a few areas, but yes, the hedges do take like 30% of the sidewalk. Then if you add a sign, two people can't even walk down the sidewalk and, you know, one going one way, one going the other way.

Yeah, I don't know. Do we have? Do we have city wide ordinances or regulations regarding like encroachment of hedges?

Yes, code compliance. Listen, you can't be encroaching on the sidewalk with with the hedges on the property. So I will speak to the director of code compliance tomorrow when I go in. And then if there are particular places that you all are having an issue with, just shoot me an email and we'll jump on it. And then I'll, you know, on Treasure Island, just up and down the street pretty quick with the crew, pretty well see if we're having a problem there. So I'll follow up on that tomorrow.

Perfect. Thanks.

Great. Thank you.

And then I guess on the signage piece, is that like... I think sometimes it just happens like year after year developments happening. So like you might have a telephone pole that just sits there and then you build a sidewalk around it and et cetera. But like, I'm curious, like, is there any type of history of us moving signs? Is that something that we're able to do?

I'm not exactly sure what kind of signs you're talking about. Is somebody advertising something? What kind of signs are we talking?

Let me see. I think I have a picture.

It's a regular street sign. Yeah, a regular U-channel street sign and just the placement of it plus the edge kind of like makes it...

So like a speed limit sign or a stop sign?

Yeah, that would be an example. Yep, exactly. It's definitely not a sign I'm paying attention to because I've passed it plenty of times and I can't tell you what it is.

Well, yeah, they're not anything serious, but I can't remember what one. I think it may have been a speed limit sign or something like that, but it was on one of the side streets in... This kind of seems odd to just take up space of the sidewalk. I'd say, yeah, it's a speed limit sign. I don't know how to put the picture in here, but I will email it to you guys and give you the example.

Yeah, shoot it to me. Now, keep in mind, from the other side of the coin, if it's a speed limit sign, the neighbors make complaints about speeding through the neighborhood. So we have the officers enforce that. And then the person goes to court and says, I didn't see a sign that said the speed limit was 25 miles an hour. So I think at the beginning of the entrance going in, coming off of like North Treasure, I recall some signs there so that we could say there's a sign there when you enter the street saying what the speed limit is. And then there are restrictions on how far that sign can be from the side of the road and so forth and so on. And as you recognize, those that live on Treasure Island, the sidewalks are pretty narrow to begin with.

Yeah.

Doesn't take much to... with a hedge or with a sign that you're having to maneuver around them. But, you know, send me whatever you got and I'll, you know, we'll check it out.

Sounds good. I just sent the photo. So I think it's actually right next to another, I guess, where a tree is. And so there is potentially another spot to move the sign that it could be more visible. So that might be a perfect example, Frank, for you to look into with the team.

You've sent me a photo now?

Let me confirm that you were on it, but I did just reply to an email.

Or just give me the link.

Yeah, I'll send it to you. Yep.

Okay. Next up is road line repainting.

Another one of mine.

Road line repainting on East South Treasure Drive.

Yeah, I was curious what the plan is for some of the, I know we're obviously doing a ton of construction on East Treasure and other areas of the village. So I think there's probably been some hesitation maybe to paint, but I do see an opportunity, especially in that area with so much happening and more and more vehicles coming in that we could be painting the lines temporarily to help. enforce the kind of, there is four lanes that do go down to three lanes. And I think there is confusion sometimes where cars don't really understand that it is, that two vehicles can fit until it gets down to two lanes, like later down the street. So I'm just curious.

Are we talking about the causeway or are we talking about like East Treasure Drive?

East Treasure Drive.

In front of the school?

Between the school and the causeway. So from the corner down to the school.

Right. Well, as you know, Shoma is going full blast and in and out with construction vehicles and that gate all day long. You know, look, that's a troublesome corner, especially at the beginning of school day and at the end of school day with all the parents coming across the causeway, making a left-hand turn there from the causeway onto East Strait. They're trying to get to school and go around the back to pick up their children. And then you've got the construction going on with the trucks coming in and out. But you're concerned that the strike, it's not clear where the lanes are? What exactly are you saying?

Yeah, it's very faded. So I think just having some colors to help update where people can actually turn into and understand that there are two lanes to turn in that do go down to one eventually. But it is a pretty sizable distance, so it causes some backup, especially with people trying to maneuver around the construction folks.

All right. I've made a note of it.

Yeah. If it's not something, because I do know there's a lot of work happening there, so it's not a top priority, but I don't know if it's going to cause more issues or not. But we are going into summer, so there should be fewer cars for the school.

Okay.

Okay. Final item is the status of Treasure Island Parks.

Treasure Island Park. Sorry, I didn't hear that.

So the final item on the agenda is discussion on the status of Treasure Island Parks.

Treasure Island Park. Are we talking about on North Treasure where we just got that land?

I don't know. I don't know.

right so there was there was a uh where two buildings were torn down or the two facilities on on uh north treasure have been deeded over to the village by uh mr anson uh and we have that property there's two the two properties next to k uh kla and the uh condos that were next to that the townhouses And he also deeded over to us the property that's on West Treasure, right up where that little house sits back there on the water, where North Treasure and West Treasure come together. On North Treasure, if you just continue to head west, you'll drive right into the house. So that little house back in there, that has been deeded over to us also. So at this point, The plans on the one on North Treasure, the long stretch, is to grate it, sod it, sprinkler it, light it, and make it available to where it can be used as a park of some form or another. The other one is what the mayor calls Stormwater Park, and that's more of a sustainability project. with retaining stormwater and a sort of a passive park. And on this coming, tomorrow as a matter of fact, when I say this coming, tomorrow morning, I have a meeting with the mayor on some financial issues. And when that's over, she and I are both going to that location so I can gather from her what her vision is to take place on that piece of property. And that's where we are at the moment. We're on the one on North Treasure, We're going out to hire a design group because even though we're talking about doing some very simple things, there has to be drainage, which means DERM is involved, which is going to take a while to come up with a drainage plan for that particular property. And then once we get those designs and we can go out to get a contractor to come in and and do some work and hopefully we can get something knocked out fairly quickly.

All right. What's the, what's the foreshadowed timeline on that, Frank?

Well, we, uh, I would say that we, we went out to get quotes from the designers and only one of them has responded at this time. And then once we get those and make a decision on who we're going to select, it'll have to go to the commission and be approved to award the contract. And then they go to work on their job. So, you know, that's going to be several months to get a design. And then once we have a design, then the next issue is locating the funds to be able to do the work. And then we, if we do that, Then we would go out to bid to get a contractor to come in and do the work that has to be done. So it's not anytime soon, but you know, all I can tell you is we're working forward on it. These capital projects take forever. It seems to get them just off the drawing board.

Hmm. So from this board's perspective, Frank, is there anything we should be doing now or any priorities we should be setting now or designs we should be kind of like, not designs itself, obviously that's the designer's job now that they're engaged, but is there anything we should be doing or setting now to kind of guide the design of these parks?

Well, the initial work we're going to do is very simple.

Yeah.

It's going to be grass, lighting, sprinklers, and we'll probably put a portable restroom on there so that when the kids are playing or whatever, they got a potty that they can use. And that's the extent of what we're at at this point. What the future of that is, there's all kinds of ideas. Some people have said they want a big bogey park in there. Some people want it to be soccer fields. Some people want basketball and tennis courts in there. So those types of ideas, which from your board would certainly be welcome to come to the commission of what ideas you may have that you'd like to see on that piece of property. But I can tell you at this point, there isn't the funding to build anything Try to make it where it's just not fenced off and you can't do anything with it. Go out there and kick a ball around. Yeah.

A nice green space for people to use.

Yeah. So it's just not closed up all the time.

Yep, yep, yep, absolutely. That kind of segues nicely into, Alexi, your point. Well, interestingly, now that Frank's kind of laid out the budgetary constraints, but Alexi, you had some ideas about shade structures and other kind of infrastructure that might be used or usable in there.

Yeah, I do have the pictures and videos from Peace Park. which does a good job of having a huge open field that, I mean, it's not a soccer field, but it could be a kid's soccer field or just a face run around. And then a nice, really well covered jungle gym sort of structure there. I know, I don't know what is in the budget or how big the budget is in the future, but I can send pictures and a video. I can maybe make like a Google Drive probably because the file size might be too big to fit in an email. But their canopy is really great. It was like 90 degrees the last time I went there and there was a bunch of kids playing under there and it didn't feel hot at all. It felt like it was maybe 20 degrees cooler under there. Sorry, that's a baby. It also looks really nice. It doesn't look sort of like cheapy. I can point out to you now that as the community center is coming close to being

you know, completed, we are getting all kinds of suggestions and ideas of what different people in the community want to see now in the community center. And I think the same thing will happen with this park. I think once we get the initial grass done and there's some lighting out there, people are going to say, hey, I want a tot lot over here. I want a doggy park. I want this, that, or the other. And those ideas will come to the commission and they will eventually make the determination with the, you know, with the input from the community. And of course that's where Lily comes in because she'll be heading this up as a director of community engagement. But this one, it really is not on the right radar for us to be saying to people, Hey, what do you want to see in this park? Because what we got right now is just a demolition site.

Yep. Noted. All right. Thanks so much for the update, Frank. That's really, that's really good. That's a great update. It's great to see the progress happening. Are there any updates from Mr. Daru?

Um, no, no further. You know, I think we covered, I think we covered everything on my end and we can table that idea for the North Park.

Great. For the group here?

The only other thing I have is that for the grand opening event of the community center, I have this idea every board to have the table to kind of spread awareness and be able to really engage with the community, talk about what you guys do, and just get out there. So I'll be sending, but I will be taking volunteers for volunteers on the table and or just volunteer in general. They definitely use more hands.

But that's all I got. Fantastic. That's a great, I love that idea. I think it's a really great idea. And also I don't think the boards really get to hang out, like really get to kind of liaise or spend that much time with each other and, or with, you know, internally and externally, I should say. So I think that's a fantastic idea. I think, I think, I think it's going to be a really great opening. Thanks for all your work on it, Lily. I think it's, I think it's, I think it's a really great show. Thank you. All right. So unless there are any other comments or updates, can I have a motion to adjourn?

Second the motion.

All right.

Second.

Excellent.

I was on mute.

Sorry.

All right, guys. Have a good night.

Meeting adjourned. Thanks, everyone.