Parks and Recreation Commission - Regular Meeting

Okay. Myrna, do you need to, read a preamble before I

Sure. I will. Okay.

Or summarize the preamble.

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The public should call in too, and they've already called in, we have three, the meeting ID, and then also they can join it live stream. And we'll go ahead and you can start. We'll take roll.

Okay. I call the meeting to order. Is there an adoption of the agenda and approval of the consent calendar? Is there

a motion? Second.

Moved and seconded. All those in favor, say aye.

Aye. Aye. Aye.

Could I interrupt? Sure. My I don't know if I need it or not, but my screen's off. Don't ask me to turn this thing on. It's coming on. It's coming. Yeah.

It's not.

Thank you. Okay.

Alright. Consent calendar. Do we need that that we approve that?

Actually, you just approved everything.

Okay. So we have public forum at the moment. Yes.

And we have a guest here. Okay. Our supervisor Brian Verkamp is here.

We have Brian Verkamp here. Is he nearby to make an announcement or a proclamation? Or

Yeah. Well, it gives me great pleasure,

we're on here,

to represent the board of supervisors today for, recognition of an individual that has only put thirty one years of his life into this Ag Commission. The board of supervisors wanna present a certificate of this recognition, Lloyd, to you, obviously, on today, May 3 or 05/13/2026, thirty one years of recognition signed by all of the all of the board of supervisors. You know, it it's a thankless job, high paying, and your your commitment to agriculture and this county is is to be commended. The other supervisors as well all, send that to you and wish you good luck and good health. And, as you move on to your next phase of, hopefully, volunteerism, but I'm I'm sure you're sort of sort maybe sort of done with that.

I don't know.

But yeah.

From from the board of supervisors to you, we'd love to bring this up to you, and then we get a picture

as well. Yeah. Get a picture with everybody.

Yep. So, Lloyd, congratulations. Yep. Good. Yeah. We can put Lloyd down there.

Can find You can go up there. Yeah. Yeah. Sure.

All of it. He wants all of us. I know.

All of you guys.

All of us.

All of us are sold.

Get them.

I don't know how it could be thirty one years because I'm only 29.

You guys going to the flag?

In front of flag.

We got the seal too.

Let's let's huddle up, guys. Get close.

The head commissioner is starting with that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I I think when we start counting those type of things, maybe it

is time for us to do that.

Right? We need to move in, and we'll we'll do

this one.

You're good. We're all

okay. Yeah. Everybody?

Yeah. You don't need to

hide. No laws

Okay. Don't work it too hard.

He might change his mind. Yeah. You know what?

We're always looking.

He'll miss you all.

All these good positions, as

you know. Yeah. Well, we'll keep at

it. Yeah.

Appreciate it very much. Okay. Okay.

Thank you.

Lloyd said his daughter started with Ed Delfino Yeah. At the ag department That's my daughter. When she was in high school. She worked

for Ed Delfino in the in the August when she was in high school. So so it's a long, long lineage with us here. Yeah.

Alright. Would you like that in here?

That's it. Now that's what makes our county so great. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you again. Thank you.

Lloyd, you get one more photo.

No. We we we're stopped now. Yeah.

Hang on, Lloyd.

Wanna get a picture with you? I

get picture with you. You gotta turn around. Alright. Okay. That you're doing that, I'll show you.

Oh, wait. It's

Okay. Oh,

wait. Is that my okay. Never mind. She'll send me

one. Okay. I'm staying.

Thanks again. Yep. Alright. I'll quit disrupting No.

Thank you, Brian. Appreciate it.

Yeah. Thank you.

Thanks. I

will send them.

Okay. We we are set. Myrna, you mentioned I I could also make a a minor announcement as as well at this time, not to take anything away from Lloyd, but I just wanted to notify you that that I am going to retire from this August commission as soon as you find a replacement. I'll stay on until that works. But but I, like Lloyd, have been here a number of years.

It's like

I've heard this before somewhere.

Yeah. But we need we need new younger thoughts and ideas in here. So anyway but that that'll be down the road, but I just needed to officially say it.

We'll make a note of that.

But I did wanna, again, thank Lloyd for all his years of service. And Lloyd and I go back to the to the early seventies when he planted the first one of the first experimental vineyards in the county, and I was a newcomer here. And they said I should go visit Lloyd and went out to see his beautiful vineyard out there, Chenin Blanc, and what else did you have Zinfandel. And and so we had a long time business relationship, and Walker Zinfandel is was one of our best selling, wines in in in for fifty years now.

So yeah. Yeah.

And speaking of that, I was in a wine tasting room. I think it was Boger. Oh, yeah. And they mentioned that we aren't gonna have that Walker's Inn very long.

Yeah. Yeah.

That's a bummer.

Yeah. Well, we still

have good.

We still have it.

Still have it because I I bought some.

Yeah. Yeah. But

It's really good, Lloyd.

Lloyd, would you do you

have any words you wanna add to? No. I I've enjoyed the time, and and, hopefully, we've made a little bit of difference in the county and supporting agriculture. So that's and and I appreciate all your work, Greg. I didn't realize you were gonna throw your hat in at

this point. When when you're gone and Myrna is and Leanne is gone, Myrna is still here. But, I mean I mean, it's just, you know, what's life? I mean, it's just so

Yeah. I was counting up the other day, all the ag commissioners I started when Ed was, and and I see Leanne is getting ready to exit the scene. So we'll all just move off into the night. Okay.

Yeah. And one more thing, actually, public comment. This is Leanne's last meeting Yes. Because you guys are not gonna have a June meet oh, you're gonna say that? Oh, sorry.

They gotta put commissioner on.

Oh, sorry. Sorry.

No June meeting?

No June meeting.

Okay. Good. Oh, really?

I could say that. Oh my goodness.

Do you

wanna add your comments during public comments now? Or I

can. This is officially my last meeting. I will be at a commissioner's meeting, in June. My last official day with the county is June 26, and interviews are gonna be progressing for your new ag commissioner, who I'm sure will do a wonderful job. Lloyd, thank you very, very much for all your hard work.

I think, I've been doing land use items for the ag commission probably 14, and you guys taught me right. So, I thank you all for that and all your help that you've you've given me throughout the years. And I think what you guys do is just so, such an essential job to promote, protect protect agricultural lands in in perpetuity. And I think that you've done an amazing job at that, Lloyd, of always being that voice of, hey. We're gonna look at how this is gonna affect things down the line.

And, just to commend you on that for all the years. I definitely in my head, as I was writing my staff report, saying, What's Lloyd gonna say? What's Greg gonna say? And then the rest of you, you're staying on, I'm not gonna but definitely all of you. But thank you for all of your hard work.

And thank you as well. Yep. Alright. Well, we're still on public forum. So is there anyone in the audience that has anything they would like to add to these, or anything that's not on the

agenda? Retiring or

So now taking public comment on public forum, individuals will have three minutes to address the commission. Public comment will be taken first from those participating in the meeting room and then from those participating through Zoom. For those participating by Zoom, please make sure you unmute yourself when called upon. If you're joining the meeting by phone, press 9 to indicate a desire to comment. If you are joining by Zoom, press the raise hand button to indicate a desire to comment. Please voluntarily state your name for the record. Let's go see. I don't have any hands up.

Okay. Okay. If not, we'll move on to action items. So the first one, Myrna, if This you would

is action item 26Dash0836P24Dash0000006. Colette, tentative parcel map, assessor's parcel number 069Dash130Dash1010. And, also, I wanna make a note that, we did receive one public comment, and it was attached to the item in Legistar. And if anybody needs to see that, we do have a copy of that here. And I notified all of you about that too.

And it's time for planning, Craig.

Oh, good. We get our planning Yes, sir. Preview. Okay. Yes, sir.

Good afternoon, chair and commissioners. My name is Craig Osborne. I'm with the planning division, associate planner. Today, we bring for you a proposed project. It's a tentative parcel map to divide an approximately 20.01 acre parcel with one existing residential unit into three parcels of 10 acres, five acres and 5.01 acres.

The parcel is located on the north side of Valley View Road between Walnut Drive and Bainbridge Avenue in Supervisor District 4. The project site is zoned residential estate, five acre minimum, with a general plan land use designation of low density residential. The project is adjacent to an agriculturally zoned parcel, PA 20, to the north on the western half of the project parcel, which has a Williamson Act contract for the neighboring vineyard. Staff requests that the application to subdivide for a tentative parcel map P 24 Dash 0006 collect parcel map, be considered for an aggregate recommendation pursuant to general plan policy eight point one point four point one. And with that, I will let your staff take over.

I do have a question if I could have you Sure. Or maybe it should be no. Maybe we'll wait. I I it it doesn't show the the the proposed parcels on the map, but that

I will show them in the PowerPoint. Yeah.

Great. Thank you. And you'll be here in case we have any Yes, sir. Questions? Okay. Yes, sir. Great. Thank you.

So just to recap, it's parcel it's not sharing. Let me go back.

Where'd you get the?

Nope. My shares are just not working.

Alright. Gotcha. There

we We got a mirror. Yeah.

It's this one. Here we are.

There we go. Parcel number 0 69130010. Again, it's 20 acres. It is not in an agricultural district. The land use designation is low density residential.

Zoning is residential estates five acres, and there are choice soils on this parcel, rescue sandy loam with two to 9% slopes. Notifications were sent out to parcels within a thousand feet of this parcel. About 50 parcels were notified. Here is the zoning map. So directly north on the west side of the parcel is the agricultural adjacent parcel. It's zoned PA 20. That is skin Skinner Vineyards.

Skinner Skinner. Yeah. Right. Okay.

The

land use designation for all the surrounding parcels are low density residential, and then Skinner Vineyards agricultural lands. And then, again, it's not in an agricultural district. Skinner Vineyards is in a Williamson act contract, contract, which is designated here. So the choice soils, again, are rescue sandy loam, two to 9% slopes, and those are just along the north side of the parcel. Topography, it's a fairly flat parcel.

There's not much incline or a decline to it at all. An aerial view. So you can see, again, Skinner Vineyards is to the north on the west side of the parcel. Here's your aerial view that shows where the splits are gonna be made. So the red square in the center is where an existing house already occurs.

It's a single family home that already exists on the property. That's not gonna change. The parcel splits are gonna happen outside of the perimeter with Skinner Vineyards. So the actual splits are gonna be occurring adjacent to the parcels that are in the low density residential areas.

Is that Corey, is that where the house or buildings are there now with the red square?

Yeah. The red squares were the single family homeless.

What's that? Is there a setback there? Is

Is there a setback there?

Yeah.

Reviewing? We

put a 200 foot setback. Yeah. Okay.

Okay. It the 200 feet? Or

I believe so.

But it was probably pre existing, I'm guessing. Yeah.

Yeah. The planned ag would put a 200 foot setback on it if it was

Yeah.

Yeah. But the houses are already there.

Yeah. Yeah. I just was wondering. Yeah.

And the

And the other two parcels that they're proposing to create, there's no building on them at this point.

The parcels that are above them in yellow, is that three three parcels there? The the above the proposed parcels?

Yeah. So these are

That one where your arrow is, what's what's the acreage on that one? Is it less than five?

Or These are all five acre parcels. The low density residential parcels are all five acres.

Okay.

Yeah. They're all already five parcels.

Okay. The proposed two new parcels, they would have road access via Valley View?

Yes. Okay.

Do you guys have any more questions, or do you wanna see any of the photos again?

So oh, go She's gonna go on and talk to you about the policies that they have to follow.

Okay. Go ahead. We can talk about it.

I'll show you some of the site photos as well so you can get a better under view of the site as well. So that's a single family home that's already existing that will be on a 10 acre parcel. If you can kinda see the green safety or, excuse me, privacy fence in the background, that's Skinner Vineyards on the other side of that.

On the other side of those large trees?

Yes.

Yeah. Okay.

So, again, this the privacy fence there, Skinner's on the other side of that. So that's going north. So this is looking towards the west of the parcel. So that's looking west towards the 10 acre parcel. So I I believe it was Skinner that put up that privacy fence. So everything that border Skinner has that privacy fence up along it. So I kinda leaned over it so I could get a picture of the vineyard.

But that's all along the 10 acre

proposed parcel. It's all gonna be on the 10 acre parcel if they do the split. Okay. So this is looking towards the east, and you can kinda see it's a little bit difficult. This is where the privacy fence ends, and that's where the vineyard property ends.

So the split's gonna be farther down this fence line here. And that this fence line is the residential property that's gonna be bordering the five acre parcel. So when you look east on the parcel, there's nothing existing. It's just all oaks at the at the moment. So I did my site visit on April 21 to review consistency with the pertinent general plan policies.

So the relevant general plan policy in this case is policy eight point one point four point one. Hold on. Just lost my PowerPoint. Which states that the county agricultural commission shall review all discretionary development applications in the location of proposed public facilities involving land zone four or designated agriculture or lands adjacent to such lands and shall make recommendations to the reviewing authority before granting approval. A determination shall be made by the approving authority that proposed use.

So part a of that is will not intensify existing conflicts or add new conflicts between adjacent and residential areas and agricultural activities. So the proposed parcel is adjacent to a parcel that is zoned planned ag 20 acres. The proposed parcel map would not intensify existing conflicts or add new conflicts with agricultural activities because the no parcel line adjustments will be made directly to adjacent agriculturally zoned parcel. So all the parcel line adjustments are being made to the adjacent residential Yeah. Zone parcels.

K. B will not create an island effect when where agricultural land's located between the project site and the other nonagricultural lands will be negatively negatively affected. This parcel map will not create an island effect for the adjacent parcels. There's no zoning changes being made with this parcel map. C will not significantly reduce or destroy the buffering effect of existing large parcel sizes adjacent to agricultural lands.

So the minimum acreage of parcels created adjacent to agricultural lands is 10 acres, which is covered in general plan policy eight point one point three point one, and they are creating a 10 acre parcel adjacent to the agriculturally zoned lands. So they're staying consistent with eight point one point three point one, whereby they are not reducing the buffering effect of existing large parcels. Parcels. So because the parcel created to adjacent to agricultural lands will be 10 acres, they are meeting the minimum acreage required.

And existing setbacks will be still will be on that 10 acre piece. Should there be any conflicting Yep. Something proposed to be developed on that one?

Yes. Yeah.

Okay.

So staff recommends approval of p 24 Dash zero zero six collect tenant of parcel map pursuant to general plan policy eight point one point four point one. Do you have any questions for me?

K. Questions of staff? Anybody? I

don't know how germane it is. The environmental documentation that came out in our package earlier said that no oak trees are to be removed. Is will there be a disclaimer in the escrow instructions? Because this property appears to be heavily the two fives heavily, sand of oak. So there's probably gonna be some issue if and when somebody goes to build there.

I would probably defer to planning on that question.

Come on back.

Great. Thank you. Good question. So far, no development is proposed. So, yes, we are looking into the future. Obviously, our code of ordinances, the oak ordinance, would apply in regulating and mitigating for any oak removals.

The prospective buyers of the two fives, they that would be in their escrow instructions. Is that typical?

The civil end, I'm not certain on. But, definitely, once the parcel map is finaled, it would be subject to all the ordinances that the county has to control development.

Okay.

Looks like a lot of second growth live oak or something.

Yeah. But it's still yeah.

Is it did you determine the specie of oak that was out there, Corey?

I did not.

It looked like a lot of live

oak or somewhat of Bill, can can you tell by the Yeah. It appears to

be live oak. But there may be some other blue oak in there too, but it definitely, the majority of it appears to be live oak.

And and the county ordinance is irrespective the live oak is protected.

Yes.

Yes. And the blue oak too? Yes. Oh, yeah. And everything.

Except for tan oak, which is not considered a true which one? Tan oak.

It's not a true rule. You're gonna have to show me that one someday.

It's by my neighbors. Okay.

Alright. Okay. Thank you. Sure. Are there any other questions of staff?

Is the applicant here?

I believe they are online. They indicated they were going to join online.

So if

you had any questions of the applicant or any explanations.

Is it Mike or Bob? Bob?

Okay. I would ask if the applicant would has anything to add or if anyone has questions of the applicant either way.

Bob, did you wish to speak? There his hand is. Okay. Here he goes. Go ahead.

You can go ahead. Please state your name, and you can respond. It's not working. Can you unmute yourself, and you can speak? Hi, Bob. Can you hear me? This is Myrna at the Ag Commission meeting. You can go ahead and unmute yourself, and you will be heard by our boardroom. He's not unmuting. Maybe he doesn't wanna talk to you guys.

Here, he's coming on again. Let's try it this way. Can you unmute yourself and speak?

Can you hear me?

Yes. Now we can. There

you go.

Did you guys say bad stuff about me while I was gone?

Yes.

Okay. Fair enough. No. We don't we don't have anything to add. I don't think, you guys did a the, planner and the ad commission did a great job presenting the project. I can try to answer any questions that you have of me.

Well, does anyone have a

So you live on the property in that house there?

I do not. We're we're the, we are the civil engineering and surveying firm that's, prepared the tentative map.

Oh. Okay.

No questions.

Okay. No question. Does anyone have any questions of them? Alright. We'll bring it back to the board. Thank you.

Thank you.

Okay. And stay there stay there in case there are other questions. Of course. Okay.

Mister chair, make sure you call for public comment before you bring it fully back to the board.

Oh. Yes. No.

I will. Okay.

Speaking sure. My next Okay.

Thank you. Yeah. Okay. So it's still open for public comments. So if there's anyone in the audience who wants to address this, my only caveat is that we are agricultural commission. We're only looking at the agricultural elements of this, not all the other any other issues. So what we would like to hear is any agricultural concerns you might have.

Right. Now taking public comment on item two six dash zero eight three six. Individuals will have three minutes to address the commission. Public comment will be taken first from those participating in the meeting room and then from those participating through Zoom. For those participating by Zoom, please make sure you unmute yourself when called upon. If you're joining the meeting by phone, press 9 to indicate a desire to comment. If you're joining by Zoom, press the raise hand button to indicate a desire to comment. Please voluntarily state your name for the record. First, we'll go from the boardroom.

Okay. Is there anyone in the audience who wants to address this?

And I do have oh, go oh, yeah. Go forward. Sorry.

Just introduce yourself for the record and yeah.

Yes. My name is Walter Ehtlin. I'm the owner of one of the parcels that adjoins this parcel. Mhmm. So that's why we're here today. Okay. Again, it was very, you know, thorough explanation. My question and if I just for clarification

Mhmm.

Once this is subdivided, the access into the parcel that's 10 acres and the two five acres will be from Valley View. Is that correct?

Well, here I need to would the planning department care to address that? That's beyond our purview.

Yes. The oops. The pro well, there there's an existing encroachment, right, for the house, And the other, encroachments would be off of Valley View if and when they're developed.

If and when they're developed. Correct.

And they would have to go through Department of Transportation to receive those encroachment permits.

Okay. Thank thank you for the clarification.

Sure. No, man.

That's because that's why we're here today. We wanted we got the notice in the mail, so we really appreciate the opportunity to come here and speak and ask questions. So

Okay.

We'll see how this project progresses.

You can follow it and but probably best through the planning department for those issues that you're concerned about.

Alright thank

you very much. You're welcome. Yep. Anyone else in the audience or on Zoom?

I do have, one on Zoom if we're all done here. Mike, you can go ahead and speak. Please state your name for the record. Unmute yourself.

Hi. Before I start, you hear me? Yes. Wonderful. Hi. I'm Mike Morbidas. I also live on Valley View. And so I'm picking will there be a notification sent to us about the public, or I'm sorry, about the the next available time to ask more public facing questions rather than agricultural specific?

Yep. We're

going to pull Craig back up.

Getting a workout today.

Sorry. Thank you.

Yes. The project will be noticed before it goes to the zoning administrator hearing, which is a public hearing It is also public in comment. So that will be a time where you could do more.

Wonderful. Thank you for your

Sure. Okay. Myrna, any more?

That's it.

That's it?

For the yeah. For the attendees.

No more out in the audience. We're okay? Anyway, you know where to go. The planning will will will follow-up with any of your questions. Okay. Thank you. Alright. We'll bring it back to the board for comments or motion or whatever you'd like.

Whatever you'd like, Chuck.

Yeah. Well, Dave Dave isn't here to that's a motion maker.

I think I think based on the fact that the applicant is retaining the 10 acres along the parcel line most directly affecting the the agricultural operations, I I don't think it'll it'll it'll diminish the the agricultural operation. So I'll make a motion that we accept staff's findings.

Alright. Is there a second?

I'll second that.

It's been moved and seconded. Okay. Myrna, would you please call the roll?

Commissioner Nielsen, how do you vote?

Aye.

Commissioner Draper, how do you vote? Aye. Commissioner Tong, how do you vote? Aye. Commissioner Walker, how do you vote? Aye. Commissioner Mansfield, how do you vote? Aye. And chair Boger, how do you vote?

Aye.

Thank you. The motion passes unanimously with chair Bolster being absent. Thanks.

Okay. And everyone else can follow with the planning department for your future questions. So okay. Alright. Now action item number three.

K. This is 26Dash0837. The commission will need to select two commissioners to serve on the interview panel for the ag commission member, other agricultural interests on June 1 at 9AM. And just for the record, commissioner Bolster said he would serve if

Right.

You want him to.

Okay. Would you, describe the the title of this position? In other words, what what is the

This is, other agricultural interest, and it's usually a business owner of end it's the industry business owner of I I'm not I think I wanna ask Leanne for her thing on this, but I believe it's Yeah. A industry owner of, like, a vineyard. Or it Yeah. This would

be a representation for any other it's not specific to fruit and nut or livestock or timber. It is any other agricultural commercial agricultural industry in El Dorado County. It could also be

It could also be

But Anyway It it could also be a row crop grower or you know?

This is for

This is for Lloyd's position.

Yeah. So it it's representing pretty much any and all things that are grown in the ground.

Yeah. Right. Okay. Very good.

Commercially.

Okay. To to give you a little background on that, I took over from Wehrkamp who had a nursery out on on Oh, Al Wehrkamp. Yeah. Al's Yeah. The time, when I came on the Ag Commission, we had walnuts and sheep and just starting a vineyard.

You had a little of everything. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

And now we're changing again.

Yeah. That's right. I don't care.

31 later. Thank you.

Alright. Thank you. We got okay. So, I would think it'd be I mean, Dave I mean, I'm fine with with Dave doing it. Do we have volunteers, or do you want me to appoint? I mean, I would

And and I might I might also add that you will be done by 10:30. They start at 9AM. I'll have coffee.

And Yeah. I just wanna say that I'd do it if I had to, but and I'd like to for Lloyd. But, we're shipping cattle, like Yep. Really busy right during that time. And so if I can get out of it

Okay. No. That's that's fine. I I think

it would be is my birthday.

It's your oh, really? Oh.

Okay. You're

gonna be how old?

Hush lady.

She is leaving. It's okay to

say whatever you only 70 seventeen days younger than I am.

Six o.

Six o.

It probably should be someone who's grows things in the ground, so I don't know. I've that comes to

mind for He just want to raise his hand.

Sign me up. One more. Okay. One more rodeo for you guys.

That's alright. And then

and then I'll announce my retirement.

I think. Sorry.

Yeah. No. Okay. So Dave and Chuck then.

Okay. Thank you very much.

Okay.

And that's all I have.

That's all you have? Okay.

No vote for that one?

I Nope.

I don't think you really have to vote on that.

It's No.

We just

appointment there. Thank you.

Alright. We're gonna have some final words from Leanne on staff update and legislation and

You never know when I might show

up I know what you

where I might show up again.

Just never know. So

I have a couple updates for you. So there first of all, a couple legislative updates. SB 13 o five, now these aren't directly related to ag stuff. It's been kinda quiet on that lately. But s b 13 o five is the road map to reintroduce grizzly bears. Okay. And CDFW, it's got a lot of support amazingly. So it's just the road map. It's not let's do it. It's you have to come up with a plan. How are you gonna do it? When are you gonna do it? Where are you gonna do it? Mhmm. Guess what?

I think it would come up some up here even though originally, I think there was approximately 10,000 bears in the state of California, and a lot of them the majority of them were in the bay. And then that area, well, they can't

they ought to that's where they ought to get.

There's no

It's it's really and and I was looking at the analysis today. It's got two thirds of the support of Californians, which is really amazing to me.

Well, it's a state symbol, isn't it?

The It is. The last one, I think, was seen in nineteen nineteen twenty four in Sequoia National Park.

Mhmm.

And ever since then they've been gone. It is going to hearing on May 14. If it gets passed, CDFW will have through 06/30/2028 to come up with the road map. Now this will be an allocation of funds, so it may get hung up in appropriations.

Mhmm.

But just as an FYI. But it would just be a road map. It wouldn't be there's some people calling me saying, bears, grizzly bears. How do we deal with bears, mountain lions, and grizzly bears, and wolves? So Okay.

This is another one that is really in the weights and measures part of my world, but as a sealer. But I really wanted to just alert you to it it's s b thirteen twenty seven. The industry that makes electric vehicle chargers is pushing to have them not regulated. Right now an electric vehicle charging device has to go get approved through the Department of Measurement Standards. It has to show that it has consistency that it that it it can keep doing and testing over time.

And then we are mandated with testing to make sure that you're getting charged for your kilowatt hour or whatever it may be accordingly. Tesla's the only one who's against this bill. They wanna keep it standardized because they don't wanna see these other people come in. So, essentially, what it would mean is that people or companies could make electric vehicle chargers, install them, have fun, and it there would no longer be that. They're talking about the consumer, the Consumer Bureau of Affairs doing it, but they don't have the mechanism or the regulatory authority.

The state has invest invested heavily in equipment that that we would be using for free to test our we're actually we're gonna start we're gonna start this year to test the electric vehicle charges and see what we've got going on. It also would be a loss of income to the county because we charge a device fee to go out there and test them. Right now, it's in the, appropriations kinda sitting in suspense in some respects, but it could still get some momentum. So it's just one I wanted you to let you know because it could affect some of you guys.

How long did they or

how often do they have to be tested?

We tested they would be tested yearly. Just like gas stations, we test all your gas pumps, all your anything that weighs or conducts a measurement transaction through, through weighing or measuring it gets tested yearly. Okay. And now we've the scanner ordinance did go through. I'm sorry, Chuck. The scanner ordinance, I went through the second reading, and that is one where we're gonna be testing people who now beep beep beep in the, you know, grocery stores to make sure their scanners are accurate. Target, Walmart.

Yes.

I I was just curious on the electric charger deal. So in other counties, are they are they further ahead in testing them? And

Yeah. Placer County bought their so you have to have a way to test it, and and I'm not gonna I'm not an expert in this. Tom would probably be a better voice for you. But they have to have a way to test it, a way to discharge electricity that they you know, that kind of a thing. So some counties are buying electric vehicles, and LA County just invested in a huge amount.

Placer has invested in an electric vehicle and charging equipment. The state just invested in, what, fifteen fifteen fifteen testing devices that they're gonna let counties use with and that's one of the reasons we haven't done it sooner is because of that. It's very expensive. But now the investment's been made, we're gonna try and make sure that they're all playing on the same field. But now somebody wants to stop it.

It's industry really pushing it. So those are really the two right now. We talked about the one, I can't remember the number, it, but the one that passed that was for abatement of abandoned fields. It's really for down in the valley where they're having problems with walnuts and peaches and, you know, Del Monte went bankrupt and so they're having problems with the the canning peaches industry too. So that really, I don't think will affect us. I've only had to deal with abatement in twenty four years once, and we didn't have to do anything.

They Are

they getting some financial aid to pull some of these orchards? And

I think I kinda heard something that

They finally have gotten something through. I guess there's a lot of regulations on those peaches that go to the canners. And so they've what I heard at the last commissioner's meeting is that there is maybe some financial help and also the ability to pull them out. Yeah.

Could that same thing be applied to vineyards perhaps if it comes to that? I'm wondering In thinking of

In in the peach industry, when that when Del Monte went bankrupt, that meant no peaches. Zero were getting sold and left on the thing. So if the grape industry got to that, maybe.

Mhmm.

I don't know that the financial aid I don't know I don't know enough of the details about it.

No. I was just

To see where it's coming from. Is it USDA? I thought it was coming through USDA, which is federal.

Yeah. Because there's, like, 40 or 50,000 acres being pulled every year right and down the valley particularly. Okay.

Are preliminary numbers for the crop report we're working on. We only have about 50%. I just talked to Helen we only have 50% of the wine grape growers reported. We try to go with 70 before we're willing to publish. So she is actively calling people saying please can you tell me but the preliminary numbers for the 50% that have reported are close to a 40% loss.

Really? Okay.

Which probably jives a lot.

No it's really important who's calling?

Helen.

Helen. Okay. No. I mean, statistics are I mean, we can't know where we're going unless we know what's happening on the ground. So yeah.

I am getting calls from the news. There's been numbers put out there about 50% of our wineries closing. I cannot back that up, that data for El Dorado County, maybe in the state, but not in El Dorado County for the wineries closing. We've had some sell, but not

that. Yeah.

The on the April 28, Karen Garner brought a update presentation on agricultural lodging options and looking for direction. Nothing Karen was directed to come back to the board in a hundred and twenty days. So with some options. I I really can't tell you more than that at this point. She had been looking at the Santa Barbara.

Their ag lodging, they call it a agricultural enterprise ordinance, think. But in we're much more permissive than they are. People always talk that we're not permissive here, but in Santa Barbara, it's a 40 acre minimum to do anything, and there's no special events. You know, Amador County, their wineries are all kind of centered around each other. And so when they have special events it's all in that they have a name for that vineyard area whereas we're kind of all over the place. So I don't I'm not quite sure where it's gonna go. I I don't know. I will say that I have volunteered after I take my six months off to come back and help with with some of these issues part time, so we'll see. Maybe they'll take me up on it. Maybe they won't.

But more to come on it. And I think there'll be a good outreach to the community. I know the board of supervisors and the CIO are very committed to making sure that you guys know what's going on. And then I'm trying to do this. Have we got anything else going on? Weird. It's crazy right now. It's crazy. We are doing large capacity scales right now, gas pumps, our weed programs in full flux. We got the crop report going on pesticide permits, inspection, you name it.

It's crazy. And on top of that, there other you know ag lodging and we have now started to branch out and look at some of the county maintained conservation easements and go do inspections for them trying to make the ag department you know we're gonna be the one stop shop here.

Do you have the staff? My my goodness. You get you get Tom just working

his Tom is working his yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What ball are you gonna drop today?

Yeah. Right. Okay.

He's a jack of all trades. You guys need anything? He and Corey, they got it.

Yep. Okay. And we

still love our Oh, and Corey can give you guys a a quiz update.

A what?

Glassy wing Glassy Oh.

Glassy wing sharpshooter.

Okay.

Sorry. Don't give me that look.

They are going to be requesting more emergency funding for us. I've asked them for another $3,000,000. They are not sure I'm going to get that, but, hopefully, we'll get something close to it.

Where are you up to?

Who are you applying to? The state?

CDFA. CDFA. The state. So far, I've spent, I think, $3,000,000 on treatments.

In what time period?

Year and a half?

Year and a half. Little less than a year and a half. Next week, we're gonna be spraying a large portion of the Serrano Golf Course, and we did all along Serrano Parkway between Bass Lake And Silva Valley last week, but we're still finding quite a few. Luckily, nothing below Highway 50 anymore. We had a couple of pocket populations down there. But On the South Side. On the South Side of Highway 50.

But Nothing up here. We will continue to have all of our traps out.

Yeah. All our regular detection traps are being deployed as of this week and last week. So those are being put out, so we'll definitely keep an eye on all of that other stuff too.

It's all staying in the same location, basically, and even actually shrunk, it sounds like, a little bit because it was South of 50 a little bit?

Yeah. It was before. So, hopefully, we can keep it contained to the Serrano area, and it's kind of central in Serrano as well. So if we can keep it in there and just keep chopping away at it, I'm confident we will eradicate it. It was just gonna take a lot of time and a lot of money.

It's It's been popping up in other parts of the the state, Santa Clara County. It's in, San Joaquin County. Solano has now, I think, pretty close to eradicating it. So there's it's one pot of funding that they they're looking at. So it's it's it's scary. To put it a little bit in perspective, the Ag department's budget is $2,000,000 a year. So Corey's been managing effectively that amount, you know just for glassy winged sharpshooter. It's it's mind boggling. We are the biggest infestation in the state.

We do? We are. And

will that be a private contractor doing the spraying at Serrano, or will you local personnel?

We contract out to a pest control business to do the spraying. Yeah.

But we also always have a staff member out there to make sure we we they're billing us for how much they put out. So we have a staff member out there figuring it out. Corey is in charge of all that.

Yeah.

I think if you remember, I told you Corey had been out at 03:00 in the morning watching them spray at the

Eldorado Hills Town Center.

Yeah.

It's a

fun place to be at 3AM.

3AM.

It was. It was very nice.

Not even a place open to have a cup of coffee or anything. Right?

It is.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay. It it was initially found down in Temecula, wasn't it, down southern in San Diego County in that isn't that where it originally

Way back when.

Way back when.

Yeah. Like, in the late eighties. Yeah.

Well, and, I mean, if you think about it, where do they grow a lot of nursery stock down there.

Yep.

And they grow in infested areas. All the plants have been treated. They're in netted areas. They get inspected before they leave. We inspect every plant that comes in, and here we are.

Yeah.

But every I mean, Serrano is like a perfect storm of host material. Every plant is a

host Yeah. Yeah.

And a preferred host. Jeez. And then we have more developments coming in, you know, down the south, so we're that was what makes us pretty nervous. I'm like, can we make I asked CDFA if we could say no plants from an infested area, period. They

yeah. Is there a commonality for commercial nursery? Commonality in In the the plants that are

coming in?

Did it

come from one?

Has has they been able to target or focus in on a particular

No. And the other part of it is we every commercial shipment that comes in, we get notified or or at least, I say, the majority of them. There may be a one off that somebody directly orders as opposed to a landscaping company, but we don't get notified if somebody brings it in.

Sure.

So those are the ones that make us the most scared. And considering that we've had traps there for twenty I mean, the whole time I've been here, I remember putting traps up twenty four years. We've had glass of worm sharpshooter traps in that exact same location. And this is you know? What was it? A year and a half ago is when we found that we had it. So I it leads me to believe that was very well established material. So somebody brought something in.

Unfortunate amongst the other things that we have to worry about.

It's a nice guy.

The host material must be pretty broad then. I mean, are they

It's gotten to the point with the glass when the when it first was Glassywing, we'd get the the host list. And then they'd update the host list. They'd update the host list. They'd update the host list. It's a it's a very promiscuous pest. Okay. It's gotten to the point where if it's smelly, if it has latex sap like a poinsettia, rosemary, you know, things like that, it probably won't try to lay eggs on

it. Otherwise,

I'd say the majority of plants are. But fotinia, crepe myrtle, I think anything you see as you drive down, Serrano, those are preferred. We love this plants.

Gotcha.

So

Maybe there should be a county regulation on the applicable plants that you could do for the county.

You can plant rosemary and poinsettias. That's just

because it

sounds like that'd be a pretty short list. Yeah. We

did reach out to Mackenzie, our our patent, our farm bureau I mean, our farm adviser for integrated pest management. We were hoping that the pest wouldn't live up in the cold. I don't know

that she's Well,

that's true, but we're getting with the climate change, we're we're getting warmer, and it's gonna migrate.

Get the snow that Corey wasn't doing a good enough snow dance down there.

But Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

Anything else? No?

And so Mirna said we're not having a a June meeting. That is still to be determined. Yeah. We did get one item in today. I am asking that I asked the person if we could put it off till July, and he said, but I want it to be there when it you're still around. And I'm like, yeah. But I won't be there at the June meeting. So Corey's gonna bring it either way, or she would even bring it if I was here. So, I'm not sure yet what we're gonna where we're gonna get. It's it's a temporary use permit for more weddings.

Boy, surprise. Surprise.

Let's see. And and so that may or may not be in June?

It could be July. It's for the end of the season to add, you know, six more. So, I will tell you guys that, weddings are still an issue and are still causing some problems with neighbors on a few situations. I think that we'll we'll see some, you know, maybe movement, more more action on this because of that. We do have still some places working out of compliance.

So this application is for

Put them in compliance so they can have six more. Right now, the most you could have with five acres of crop is 12. 12.

That's right. Yeah.

So a temporary use permit. You can only do them in a for one or two years at the most, and currently, you could do six events.

Just to know what's wait to see what the permit sees, looks like when it gets here because I don't I don't wanna necessarily make comments on what it is until we start with taking

shouldn't say anything more to you other than it's it possibly is a temporary use permit coming through.

Yeah. Let's let's just let's see what it looks like when it gets here.

So Okay.

Yeah. Alright.

Very good. Does anyone else

have anything else? I have a question. They're you're having the interviews for my replacement the first of of, what, June? Will it do I need to worry about being at at another Ag Commission

meeting? We

should be able to make a decision, and then we'll bring it to the next meeting. And, from their interviews, they'll be able to make a decision. And then that person would probably be here for the next meeting as long as whoever the ag commissioner is sends it up to the board and says that we wanna go with that. But you guys will have to make that decision, so it will be. But you're asking if you need to come back in July. No. You want another party? June. No. It'd be July. We are June. Not June, he's gonna be gone to Oregon.

So I just will know. I mean, you serve this and however you wanna serve it. You can also leave it at any time as you want. The body is large enough that your absence still means the body can act without a quorum. If you so choose that you would like to just make yourself available, at the next meeting, certainly could do that. But, also, there would be enough it's not necessary for you to be here for you to establish a quorum. Your, you know, dedication and service is always very appreciated. How long it'll take for this new person to be appointed by the board? I I don't know the exact time. So but yeah. But, of course, your whatever you need to do in your personal life, takes precedent. So yeah.

He's got a trip planned in June, but if we need you in July, I'm gonna be sending the stuff to you. Okay?

If you bribe you with some more

brownies, you're No. The brownies are done. It's done. No more brownies. One time.

Goes the second week of, June. So Right.

Don't you worry about it.

Yeah. You're

fine. You go enjoy the Thank you, Lloyd.

Yeah. Alright. If there's no other business, we're done in, gosh, five one hour.

No. Let's think of something else to do.

Right. In the old days when Delfino and Bethel were here, we

That's why I got It went on and said eight by nine.

And then we went out to a bar for another two

Imagine that. You went out to a bar.

Home later. Yeah. Yeah.

Here you go.

I'm gonna get you your own name tag. I promise. Now here's

your pen. Yeah.

Thank you.

Thanks. Alright.

Well, we're still we're still go on. It he's gonna call me at seven or when he leaves. I go

this class. I can sign it for you if you want me to.

Board and the one that first one.

Yeah. Okay.