About this meeting
- Government Body
- City Council
- Meeting Type
- City Council
- Location
- Hartford, SD
- Meeting Date
- April 7, 2026
Transcript
138 sections (from 946 segments)
Pledge. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you, Teresa. Please take the role. Okay. Mayor Jones here. Kill here. Carlson here. Project here. Matson here. Killing here. And Bone is absent with notice. He was sick. He let me Oh, okay. Thanks. You bet. All right. Do we have any additions or action on the agenda for tonight's meeting? Make a motion to approve the agenda. Second. Any discussion?
Hearing none, we'll vote. Shilling, yes. Rach, yes. Keel, yes. Matson, yes. Carlson, yes. All right. How about the minutes from the 317 St. Patrick's Day meeting? Make a motion to approve parent 17. All second. Any discussion? Hearing none. We'll vote. Carlson, yes. Matson, yes. Keachek, yes. Shelly, yes. All right. Bills, Karen, no bills. Love that. Public comment. You guys are here for something, I think. Mhm.
All right, we'll move down to applications, agreements, hearings, resolutions, ordinances. First one we have is resolution 2026-10. This is to support America's 250 South Dakota committee and US semicquintentennial. Man, that is a mouthful. I should have practiced that one. feel like you're going to have opportunities to say it more times than once. Yeah. So, this is an ordinance or this is a resolution that they send out that they ask all the cities uh to adopt. Yes, this is drafted. Yeah. The committee for the
We just need approval from the council and uh I will sign it and uh off we go. Any action? Does it matter if there's a typo or Oh, where's it at? Yeah, let me know where to type those. Number one, uh, in the third whereas, is that supposed to be America's 250? Oh, and not 205. Oh, sorry. I I did catch that one. So, the one that's going to be signed says 250. Okay, good enough. She got you. I would make a motion to approve resolution 2026-10 to support the 250th South Dakota Committee for the US Semiquentennial.
I thank you. That's really nice. I'll second. Any discussion? Hearing none, we'll vote. Shilling, yes. Rochek, yes. Ke, yes. Matson, yes. Carlson, yes.
All right. And then we are going to discuss Hartford's America 250 celebration. I know we've done some stuff. It's on the list. We've talked with the Jambburye Committee. They're going to incorporate the theme. We've passed a resolution. We just did that. Teresa included information on banners, flags, and other miscellaneous paraphernella. Exactly. So, basically I I got some quotes for some banners and flags. So, the banners would be the same ones that are
that would go on the flag poles downtown, you know, the same size. It would, you know, mimic that. And then, um, just got quotes on some differentiz flags. If we want to fly one outside of city hall or in the park, you know, we could get those as well. So, nothing immediate that we've got to do right now, but if you guys are interested in, you know, looking at that and want to move forward with something like that, you know, we can get that that ball rolling anyway. And and then um yeah, I just want to keep the discussion going of what we're going to do, which we should do, what we should only have so long to fly a flag. So,
right. And I'm not sure, Craig, if the one out in front of city hall in the park, are they the same size or are they? Yeah, I think they're all 3x5s here and there. And I think the one at the park is 4x6. The American flag, but you can go 3x5s, but the rest of them would be good with them all. I think I don't know. It'd be great to double check. Do we And do we have flags anywhere else? For sure. It's just those three areas. I got one. Well, we've got one in our shop, but that's just one pole for American flag. And then there's one here at the seven
and Central Square. And then there's three at the by the park there. That little used triangle there. Yeah. Can we add one at the wastewater treatment facility? We certainly can. We talked about that. We actually have an extra pole because we ordered poles a couple years ago when we put these other ones in. They sent us one and they resent them. They sent us two and they told us to keep the third one. So, we certainly could put one out there. Tall enough for out there. It's a 25-footer, I believe, is what it is. I'm working girl math. So, is that tall enough for out there? Probably. I mean, we get it way too tall, it'll just get ripped ripped out. Well, I mean, so you could see it from Yeah, I think you'd see it.
Place the light put on it. So, yeah. Bolt it to the building and put it up. getting up higher yet. Yeah. Get her way up on top. You got the roof access now. No, we don't have it yet. So, we're still going to have to figure a way of getting up there. So, if we say we do want to have flags where we have them and maybe take this opportunity to put one up out there. We need Can you come back with what you need? Yeah, we can certainly get together and stuff like that. It probably wouldn't hurt to even order an extra one just in case one would get ripped or something like that before then. Um, so there's 250 an extra one. I think I'd order an extra one just to cuz you have it up all year.
Yeah, let's fly it in the crib. Yeah. Um, there's quite a disparance disparity. Yeah, that's the banner on the one. I asked him, "You sure that's the the price?" So that's 14 banners. Yep. And that's all same size. 14 banners with the hem lines and the grommets. And probably they have the exact same verbage for all three of them. Okay. I mean, we only need them the last one season, right? Or maybe it's the difference between made in America and made in China. Could be. Could be. Maybe we should check that. Yeah, that's pretty significant. Well, I would say
those are the approved vendors though. Are there approved vendor vendors from this book or anything? Literally every flight company is making so I would definitely really I agree Travis. I think we should check to see if they are in fact American made or not. That' be my biggest concern. I would say I have no problem with that. I mean that's a little bit steep but at least we should check. You know what I mean? I'd rather benefit of the doubt. Seems a little off to order them from. Yeah, it does. China. It does. Yeah. And I I have no idea what
and Yeah. And I do the same with the flags. What are we okay then? Should we So we can put this on the next agenda. Where did the quotes come from? You just vendors actually. Um, oh, so they're all one in Sou Falls, one in one I think their main office is in um actually Minnesota, but uh the other two are Sou Falls. Which two are Sou Falls? I I don't want to with quote save their names on public. Well, I mean, I think the closer we can get to home, the better. I guess is what I was going to right.
So, I would say between staff put together, this is how many we need to order. This is where they're built. put get that ready and we'll put it on the next agenda and we'll make a decision and go. All right. All right, everybody. Um, just looking at the July 4th celebration where I grew up, they had always hot dog night. It used to be on the board. I know. But I mean, that's where local businesses just bought hot dogs and grilled out front and people walked around town and ate hot dogs or did whatever. I don't know if it could be something that simple. Um, but yeah, I think we maybe we should talk to Jill.
I think we really need to rope the not rope. That sound doesn't sound right. Loop. Loop. That'd be the word I was looking for. Loop the chamber in and see if they would like to work with interest. Yeah, cuz I really think we should do a feed of some sort, you know, with Craig cooking them all. Wait. I mean, they literally brought their own grill outside their business and I just want to see if you were paying attention here. Maybe they would prefer to do something different and Yeah. in a parking lot somewhere or something or get them all together, try to line them up down at the park or do something.
And and you know, we we talked this is a July 4th celebration. Really, like Craig said, this is an all year celebration. So if we feel we can't get people around July 4th or another, you know, weekend works or a date or whatnot, we do something in August or September or whatever it may be. You know, we can think about that as well. So this will be thinking on that. But yeah, we I'll I'll connect with Jill and maybe see if she has any thoughts or wants to, you know, take it to the chamber and see if they want with the fork being on a Saturday. That would probably be Maybe we could do a week night. I just don't know that week or something.
You know, a lot of people travel on the 4th, too. You know, do you think so? But I I think no matter what weekend you pick, I mean, you always Saturday. Yep. Yep. It is this year. And uh it really if we did it if we did an off night, maybe we could get Ben to come out. You know, he used to live here in Hartford. Ben Jones who's the chairman. Oh, yeah. He used to be our neighbor down in our neck of the wood. they're going to say is related. Well, he's from D Smith. Oh, same thing. Well, you know, like Preston D Smith close. Okay. Well, we'll do some talking with J and get some information and we'll talk about it next meeting. You just keep you just keep it
you just keep it on our agenda. Where where would we plant a liberty tree if we did something like that? Imagine somewhere in one of a bunch of trees on Mickelson, but they're probably on. Those are going to look nice. Boy, those are when they start growing up. They're going to look nice. We are going to have a great tree lined road there on Mickelson. I'm just telling you. What's up with all the trees? They're spaced really close together. I bet we could find a spot. It's not as close as you think. Could we find a spot over here at uh certainly look any type of tree that you would like to see for
the original Liberty tree was an elm? You know they do make hybrid elms though. Yeah. So Oh, really? They make what? You know that for a fact or Yeah. Okay. We actually got a couple elms around town that we planted just recently. Okay. Okay. I can talk to Mike and make sure he saves a nice be great. Let's do that. see if he'll donate it for the Liberty. Yeah, that'd be even better. Yeah. Teresa, is there a, you know, I see, you know, it's we best to Is there like a city charter or something something that looks old and official? I just wonder maybe we could get a copy and maybe laminate it and maybe put it on
our actual incorporation papers. Look, it's it's that we don't even have an actual incorporation papers. Um, but I print them off from the Secretary of State's office and basically it was a vote of the people and it's a a roll call of a vote and it's a tally sheet and it's it's kind of sad. I don't know. WE DON'T GOT A FULL CERTIFICATE or anything like that. Chad GPT can create something. I said we may even fix something up. Look, I know I know when we're incorporated. I I know the backstory and whatnot. Yes. Maybe we could uh
I guess maybe a little historical uh blurb or something that we could not original documents we put out there, but maybe a copy or Oh, yeah. Like I said, we put something together that or does our like Sandy and that that group are historical? Do they have like the story of the founding of Hartford or anything? Oh, yeah. Maybe they got some ideas. Yeah, we Yeah, got all those papers and that. So, we could put something together. So nice little story. Put Sandy on display a little incorporation is more for you. 130 years ago. Do you know the exact date by chance? What is it? I don't know right now. But you don't have I have it on the paper.
You don't have it tattooed on the inside of YOUR ARM OR ANYTHING? WE HAVEN'T went that far. I see how loyal. August 8th. Where's my medication? You're just pulling dates up. Just like he pulled the el. I did. I did. I did my All right. On the old tree. Are we good? Yes. Let's keep from for our next meeting.
Well, that's didn't see that all coming, but that's good. All right. Last under the applications resolutions ordinances is to review approve renewal of cannabis license for grassroot gardens. It's in the packet. They are here. Say your name so everybody knows who you are. Uh Kyle Kite. So Grassroots Gardens. Travis Holland. Kyle Kite.
Yeah, absolutely. So to answer any questions of anything we are expanding and kind of and growing as as we as we have our fit harvest currently and so here to invite also anybody to uh to check out our facility. It's just just not even half mile down the road. If you guys would like a tour, we would love to invite anybody as well and answer any questions on what we do. So this is the facility that was present or formally Okay. Yes. It was previously a grow facility too. That closed down. Um and then the yacht's been opened under garden now. Yep. And you said you're expanding.
So in the same facility, our original plan was to have two rooms operating um opposite of each other. Currently we had when we first started, we only had the funds to to do the one and we had to grow naturally. And now we have completed the other phase of that and Travis has just started doing everything over in that room here this week. So we're a real exciting time. Yeah, we just went into flower with that room today. Flower meaning they're they're starting to to grow what what we would consume. So so that is what we needed to have happen for us to be successful and we have done that. So business plan is is working
and and you say you are distributing now too, right? You got a product that they're actually distributing. Yeah, we actually cultivate and only sell to the dispensaries. So we don't do any too customerf facing or anything. We only do wholesale to the dispensaries in South Dakota and then they go to uh go to the patient from there. Yeah. So anybody got any questions? Everything seems to be in order. My only question would be Yes. Um, of all the points listed here under the background summary, hours of operation, waste, um, and I guess the number of employees isn't a big deal. Uh, the security system and the lighting. Is there anybody from the city that's verified that those facts?
Well, when they originally, you know, got a building permit to start it, you know, I don't know if it was Kyle or Paul would have went out and, you know, followed up on that. Kyle Christensen by Kyle contact with him. He actually has sent me I got to fill out a permanent res or permanent structure because we had to fence in our garbage. So that's I'd like to be in contact with Teresa with state at the Teresa with Kyle. I mean just to be on at least a firstname basis with them. My name is Kyle so it's easy to remember. Right. Yes. All of those things. He's he needs to come out again to be hooked up to do all of that. Got it.
So, but again, you guys are also invited as well. I mean, it's even if you're just curious. Sure. So, all right. All right. Any questions or actions? Uh, best way to uh get contact just call the business phone number and then that's that's my cell phone. Um, and he's going to actually be the one you would want to contact. He's the one that's there every day. I have a day job in Sou Falls and then uh and then I come off, you know, at night and when on my days off, but he's the guy that's the day-to-day operation is Travis, which you would probably just want to I think my cell phone, the 4773 number is my number on there, right? Yeah. Wish you could contact me. I'd love to meet you out here, but dayto-day would be better for him. Okay. And but I can get that for you.
Okay. Yeah, that'd be great. Um and security haven't had any issues or is it pretty nondescript of a building? Yes, you wouldn't know. It looks like storage units. Uh we didn't change anything on the facado on the outside. It looks just like two garage doors that you would open up, but you walk in, it's completely different facility. If you drive by, you wouldn't know. It's right across from the fire department and creek side. So I see sheriffs all the time.
It's one of those I mean Yeah. We're right We're right there. It's like it's it's very indre every nook and cranny of every part of the building. Yep. I mean, you got to know wherever where everything's at. They're motion detectors. Uh we have, you know, security alarms. They're pretty strict from from the state with just protocol with that. And then we also have multiple security doors to get through to get to any finished product if you know where it's at inside a locker, inside a locker room, inside a locked building. So, I mean, you'd have to have knowledge and access to things, but it was a concern. Yes, for sure. We like being here though and not in Denver.
Yeah, Harford's a very safe community. I mean, it's just it is wonderful. So, we want to keep it that way. Yeah. I mean, it is we want we want to keep it that way. So, sounds like Oceanceans's 11, but get into the facility anyway. Yeah. Get Frank over here. Yeah. Right. All right. Any action from the council? Make a motion to approve the renewal of cannabis license for grass roots garden. Second.
Any more discussion? Hearing none. We'll vote Carlson. I I can't vote for this because of the right now. So, I'm going to Oh, sure. Ma. Yes. Kia, yes. Harach, yes. Shelley, yes. All right. Thank you. We're good. Okay. We know. Yeah. And if you can either send your cell number if you want. Yeah. I can get uh Why Why don't you just email it to me so Right. So it's not on the camera so everybody knows. Yeah.
So yeah, just email it to uh Teresa and she can get it out to us. All right. Thanks, guys. Appreciate it. get a hold of him. We had a mayor that worked for a bank and he had some similar concerns. Yeah. Yeah. On that. Well, banking industry can't deal with any of you know, I wasn't wasn't that I don't really approve of the business. Yeah. Oh, overall. Yeah. I was going to vote no, but it seems really Don't let the attorney hear you. It'll make you Yeah,
these obstaining things are for the birds. I got I got I got chewed out. We'll see. I'll get more information. Yeah. No. Yep. All right, let's move down to reports. First one up, we have uh Deputy Jonah Rectenbaw here. We did Teresa send you a copy of that letter that we just got that I got today? No, he wasn't. I didn't see him. I didn't get until five. So on the dirt bikes,
I have a resident down fighter and down in that area on the uh dirt bikes and I sent her a note back and I said, "We're going to we're going to discuss it tonight while you're here. I know we've talked about this before. I have you had conversation with Cresmans or was that you Teresa?" I had conversations at least a year ago when we first started getting complaints about it. Basically, I I just talked to Lori. I said, number one, I just want are you aware that they're doing the dirt right? Because they may have not even been aware of it. Yeah.
Um and then, you know, and just say, you know, are you okay with it? Because there may be a liability issue there. I would check with your insurance company since it is on your land and if somebody gets hurt. And uh basically, you know, she was going to check into it. She got back to me and she says she talked with their insurance company. um they're okay with them being there. I think I don't know if they have them sign a hold of harmless. I think maybe that's what the suggestion was. Whether they really do that or not, I don't know, but um they're aware of it. They're okay to have them there, right?
So, this resident Jonah was talking about several things. one, they're riding on the dirt, but back getting back and forth, running down the street, running on the sidewalks, running down the bike path, running across the field. And I know you and I, we've talked about this several times, unless you are tour today, right? And and it's funny cuz they know cuz when I'm sitting up there, they welcome them. They welcome them. Isn't that amazing? Yeah. Yeah. I've also I had a phone call last night last late week or the the end of the week before as well and so that you know led to my questions about how the property zoned
and a dirt pile sitting. Yeah. um but the same thing they're coming down the sidewalks on fire and um and I've got complaint down the street the I mean Jo I've talked to the issue is catching them you know seeing them when they're doing it and the the couple people I've talked to I said you know the best thing you try to do is call it in right away so hopefully deputy they can catch him because after the fact we don't know who they are or where they go also the writing. There's one who rides in the literally in the field, which I assume will end once that's planted. Planted. I would hope. Yeah, you would hope.
Yeah, that's what I was wondering when they're out there. Yeah. When they when they plant it, you would think that that would stop that. Yeah, I'm sure I'm sure their farmer would be happy about that. Um Michelle, did you get a caller or something? I got an email. Was that on the on dirt bikes, too? Yeah. Yep. So, and I agree. I mean, I I almost hit one coming down Maine. They were He was flying down Maine and Yeah, I was coming across and trying to creep across and the individual that spoke with me too, he's he just said there's never adults out there. It's just a matter of time. Oh, some of the kids are not very old. Right.
I'm just not sure what we do, you know, as far as having place and when they're on the private property of catching them. What about the noise ordinance and the that's from 11 to 6 11:00 p.m. to 6:00 a.m. So, they're never out there at night. I mean, it's during the day. And technically, isn't that field technically county? I don't No, that is annex. It's It's zoned out where the dirt pile is, that's that's in city limit still. Yeah. Well, once you get that road to the um sewer on the east side is county, but everything west is still the city. Okay. Right.
So, even that field is even that field to the east of like that path that leads back like that has that driveway to go in like off the end of fighter. Yeah. The path is city, right? West side. Yep. The gravel road is city, but just to the east of that to the field, that's that's got not the little driveway where the pilot is going. Unless you're talking about the approach to the trail, the trail, the trees to the way south. Yeah. That field like So it' be like east of Patrick Avenue. Correct. That's county.
Okay. Cuz I was always wondering what if like what if uh cuz I had one of my buddies, he wanted to hunt the field. Oh, just west of town. And what if that field got full of geese? Like people could technically I was like I'm pretty sure people could technically find geese in that field. They're probably not close to the houses. Two. It's like 600 ft. I think 600 or 660. Yeah. Well, I'll be able to let you know if they start shooting. Luckily, there's no there's no I think I'll know. You might get a few calls.
I just I just talked that over with other deputies and like it'd be I guarantee you get a lot of calls. Oh, man. Well, and I think it's probably not while you're working as much, Jonah, because it's not immediately after school during the week. It's more the evenings and the nights. So Monday and I I hear it too. Oh yeah. Monday they had no school. So they were the weekends are bad. If you could make sure that the weekend evenings this afternoon after I left you guys they were down there. So there's nothing. We don't have a noise. We don't have an ordinance violation. We don't have a noise.
It's on private property. They're not running a racetrack, you know, like a business. So you can't say it's not zoned right for. They can have dirt out there. Yeah. It's not within the hours of, you know, our noise ordinance. Yeah. Me and me, Kyle, and Jordan have all talked about it. It's like we can't besides the sheriff being able to catch them like on the sidewalks or on the streets and that involves catching them doing it. And like I said, they've wised up anytime they see him around walking them now.
Yeah. There was one that got called in on Monday and I went out and talked to him and he is pretty disrespectful. So, I sat there the rest of my shift and was like, "All right, well, I'm just going to make sure you don't drive it on the street and the sidewalk." And of course, he didn't. So, yeah. Well, just if you get if people get them on video, we can definitely set them. It's just hard when we have people that call in, especially if they're not like right there,
like say they're seeing it. cuz I've there's been times where I'm sitting out there and I'm watching them and I think maybe they drive on the trail like that trail that goes back towards the which they're not supposed to drive on that. Right. And then I like drive up and then I can't even tell if they were or not. Yeah. That's why I think that kid's driving down the field. Yeah. Cuz he can't drive on the street and he can't drive on the trail. So he's just driving in the field. Literally in the field between the rows. Yeah. Yeah. I I or Kyle talked to a gal yesterday who lives on Sherbet Circle. So you don't right there where the dirt pile is and that's where you know you know is that where she lives
talk to the property owner you know cuz if they would you know not allow it and we'll put up actual signs of no trespassing then the sheriff's office could do something then. But like I said as long as crestsman are allowing it it's kind of tough it's tough to do anything. Yeah, since it's on private property. I wonder if they're in the field. Uh I think Mike Grace has lo got leases up. I wonder if he could have in his lease if he's got uh authority to put no trespassing up on it. Check. Or he could put it up and keep them on a field. Yeah. I don't know.
No, it won't stop pile. Keep them from racing across a portion. Yeah. Well, I assume once he plants it, they I mean, I would assume these kids smart enough. I don't know how that works, Jonah. I don't know. Can you sight them if they're running over the speed limit out in the field? Probably not. No, cuz they're not on a street. No, we can't even tow from private property. Yeah. Yeah. Same thing could be said for the stumpy ground further east cuz that bike we saw was down way down there almost down to Turtle Creek. Yes, I think that's where it comes from. It could be from takes the field so it's not all the way own that junk. They I'm sure they ain't going to want nobody car. Yeah, true.
That's not annexed in the city property that either. I was just going to ask that. No, but I mean they could put no trust for sure. Yeah, correct. Once again, I'm guessing until there's plan until they plant, they don't probably care. Yeah, but I think the school owns that property, they're probably a little leerary about who somebody getting hurt on the property. Yeah. I mean, if you can make sure that the night and weekend guys know at least so they're aware so we can keep an eye on it and tried it, you know. Yeah. But you could definitely hear it. You can hear it, too. Yeah. It's not dirt bikes, it's scooters, right? Yeah. All right. Two days in a dream.
This month, uh, the report was taken from March 1st to March 31st. There are 229 calls for service in total which was an increase of 86. We only saw kind of a busy month. Um we only saw four decreases in all the categories. Um there were seven accidents which was an increase of four. Um five of them were injury accidents and or no five of them were without injury, two of them were with injury. Uh there were two DWIS, 55 traffic stops, 10 citations, which was an increase of five, uh 22 case reports, which was an increase of seven, seven arrests, and 25 civil processes.
And then I was going to go over the outline of what I've been talking to kids about the electric scooters.
That'd be good. Um, I've just kind of been asking asking them to raise their hand. Whoal has one and then who has a license. I've talked to the sixth and uh the eighth graders. I'll talk to the seventh graders tomorrow. Um, Deputy Gomez, he's talked to fourth and fifth graders out in Humbult. Um, and then I've been listing out things that they could possibly be in violation of if they're driving them on the streets, which is if they don't have a license, that'd be $32.50 fine. They don't have eye protection. That's $25. They don't have a brake light. That's 20 an added $25. No blinkers. $132.50 fine. And then no insurance is an automatic court appearance. And then if they're under 18, they got to be wearing a helmet. And just that if they met all those, uh it's a total of $447.50. And then if they're riding at night and they don't have headlights or tail light, that's another 13250. And then double riding, they're not supposed to be doing that either, which would be two person, two people on a scooter. That's 13250. So if they met all of that, it'd be a total of $712.50. And I've also told them that if your parents know you're driving these on the streets, they could technically be called to the tra like if we were to stop them, we they could be called to the traffic stop and issued a citation for um allowing allowing someone without a license to drive
on the road and that would be an automatic court appearance, too. So um sounds like they there was some buzz after we talked to the eighth graders about it. So hopefully there will be some change. Um, another thing I was going to I mentioned to Teresa is if you guys would consider so like when I've had like whether so I'll just bring up a scenario we had an incident at the high school where we weren't getting some cooperation out of uh the person we were dealing with. Um, and one of her friends actually talked her into cooperating with us. So, I went to um, Dairy Queen, just bought some free Blizzard coupons and then I handed her out one. So, I was wondering if we could do something like that where we could give them to the Hartford deputy and if they see if they follow these kids from one destination to another and see them buy and buy everything, hand them out a coupon for free or something.
It's not such a crazy idea. Yeah, they're going to do some money. Reinforce them. If you can catch them, they'll probably try to outrun you.
You're a man in the law. Try to give you this free.
That's right. Positive reinforcement might be good though. Can't hurt. Anyway, like today was when I talked to the six sixth graders and they had a lot of questions about like other stuff like dirt bikes and whatnot and reinforce that those are more strict than yeah the scooters because they can't drive on the sidewalks or anywhere if they don't have a license, right? Do you think there's a way we can collaborate with the school and have email communication to the parents? So, we're going to send the parents um well, Comz is going to send the parents like the fine portion of this. That would speak volumes.
Yeah. I know if I were a parent, I got that. Yeah. One of the teachers, they asked the same exact thing if we could like get this out to the parent somehow and that's what they thought of and I was like, "Yeah, as long as we get Dr. Knight on board with it and he's on board with it." So, Um, Teresa did talk to the Brandon uh, city administrator, but I know a parent from Brandon and she told me that when they put that along, it really did the parents all of a sudden thought stepped up to try to get this thing enforced, you know,
to really help. They haven't picked up a bunch of kids, but the parents at least are telling their kids, "Hey, if you get picked up, you're going to be in, you know, you're in trouble." Mhm. Yeah. What uh Brian Reed, the city administrator there said, I said, you know, let you put this in place. You know, we have the questions, you know, how do you enforce it or do you enforce it? Well, they've got their own sheriff's department there. And he says basically he doesn't think Yeah. There's probably been tickets written on it, but they're using it more kind of a learning tool. Yes. Just to
So the kids are aware of it, the parents are aware of it. And it also provides if you do got that one person that you know you can't get through to it does have consequences that you could issue you know ticket to or citation. So but it seems like we have enough mechanisms to do something about it. We can't I mean rather than I think just getting awareness out there especially to the parents because they're allowing just Yeah. A third grader has no understanding of the the dollar amount consequence of 800. They're not paying attention. They don't, you know, but you tell that to a parent. Should get their attention. I think it would
all those citations could probably buy two of those scooters. I don't know if they're I wonder just thinking a little bit bigger. I mean, the scooter thing is cool, but I wonder if that could be some type of a joint program um between a few organizations just for like safety recognition. like scooter behavior would be one, but maybe sometime there's some other thing, right, that you guys want to use them for. I wonder if we could get other organizations in town and or Dairy Queen or I mean, I would want us to contribute too, but maybe it could be a little bit bigger than just the city buying some, right? See, we can't set, you know, start a
like even the fire department, right? You know, somehow some some kind of and maybe not only scooters and dirt bikes, but we also have the violation in the golf carts. Golf carts. Yeah. I talked about those too. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Non-drivers. Yeah. Young kids at the golf carts do battling that as well. But do we have a do we have a car seat um thing you know where you know where they come in for a safety you know they put in the car seat so they do like a I know our community engagement committee um has done like a bike rodeo in the past
um I don't think they did one last year though because I was really trying to see if we could talk about the scooter use at it yeah I'm just thinking of combining a few the fire department has that safety day and that's I think where they use that might be a good that might be a good place to really you know Yeah. Not really though cuz I was at that and it's kind of like more of a come and go. It's not like everyone's there all at the same time. Yeah. Yeah. And I was just at like a little my own little booth. I think the bike rodeo if they do if someone decides to use that as their
thing then I think that'd be a good time to do it. Yep. So the business was going to buy some Blizzard coupons and donate them. Uh could we just leave them here with Teresa? Have her get a hold of the deputies to come pick them up. Yeah. Okay.
All right. Um how about your other Can we tell your other stuff? Oh, yeah. Uh, this will probably be my last city council meeting because I'll be joining the investigations division. So, um, the Hartford, they have it open now and then it'll close on Friday. So, we'll see. We should know hopefully by next week who the next deputy will be. Thank you for your service.
It was nice. It was It was very rewarding be able to being able to serve in the community that I grew up in. So fun. Excellent. I met that guy that swears across the street all the time and comes and barks next to you. You want to give me a ticket someday. Every time I see him, I just swerve right across and pull up next to it. I got to quit doing that. The day I stopped on the highway, I thought, "God, that's probably stupid that I stopped right on the highway." You're not the only one that pulls up next to me and talks to me. Well, I appreciate everything you've done. You've done a you've done a great job for us. So, I bet your folks are going to miss you stopping in for coffee and whatnot.
I never do cuz before we had my son, my mom got a new job. So, well, just stay same same company but went into town and otherwise she'll work from home. But nobody's there. My dad's going to miss flipping me off when you GUYS might have gi that to the other. That's good. All right. Anything else for Jonah? Thanks, deputy. You bet. Thank you.
All right. Oh, most exciting part of the evening right here. Here we go. Engineer report.
Good evening everyone. Uh report is in your packet. Uh quick update on a couple general items. Information has been provided to the city on the uh GFP trail grant application for that uh trail from 12 street to Swenson Park. Uh that grant application is due this Friday. So is working on the application itself. Then they'll get it submitted uh to the state. Uh, additionally have been working with uh, Neil and Eric on the ball field day a at city park just getting some additional egg time out there getting that kind of reshaped and uh, releveled for play this summer. Project updates will skip right down to the Mickelson Road Shared Use Path did have a kickoff with the DOT last Monday. Um, so design of that trail is underway. anticipate a progress, call it 60% set, uh sometime early March for city staff and council review there. So, keep pushing that one along. Um
early May, early May. Yes. What did I say? I apologize. I approve March. Okay. I may have said March. Early May. Yep. So, keep that one moving. Uh continue. But this is not going to get done this year. This is That is correct. We It's not going to get done this year. created a schedule targeting fall construction and the DOT very bluntly stated that there are nine weeks required for bidding which would have pushed us into uh summer construction which just isn't feasible. So we'd be looking at a late fall bid or early spring bid with spring construction
and that's mainly due to the federal requirements since we're using federal funds for this and obviously that makes everything go longer. Well, it takes three years to get a trail in, I guess. All right. What else you got? That is all I have. Happy questions.
Anybody got any questions? I was trying to think if there anything else. Anything I really need to know about the Kelly Avenue? Oh, yeah. for uh next council meeting because I'm coming early and yes I will I'll provide that to Teresa probably going to use the same presentation that we did before just so there's no nothing new but I'll make sure Teresa has that no just wonder I want to be a little bit prepared before talking to people um you may even have it in your box but I'll I'll make sure
since you brought that Kelly I'll just I'll just share I had a really nice phone call from one of the people who lives down there. And I think I think the citizens were really were pleased. I think they expected after the meeting last fall that we were just going to make a decision and they weren't going to get any more input. I think they were surprised when we sent them another letter and said, "Hey, we want you guys to come in and talk about this." And I told him, I said, "We're not going to do some You guys are on the hook for some of this. We're not just going to do this." So, I want their input. Yeah. Yeah. Before we start spending your money,
I mean, we want to make sure that you guys know and but I did lay out to you this is this is going to be a tough one. I mean, this is going to be a tough one for us to say. I actually called Justin and said all I could see us doing is a offsp. I mean, we'd have to almost do something that is not according to our standards to make this work. And I don't know that we want to open that door. So anyway, I think it'll be a great I hope that they all show up. I think we'll have a great conversation with them.
Because they're aware and I talked about this in depth and I was just verifying that it is in Ward one here because there's some discussion. Oh yeah, where the ward actually with if the ward map I'm looking at which is updated on 314 of 23 is the most recent. It is not W three. No, it's W one. Yeah. Yeah. Um and at the end of the day, we we've kind of gotten focused on the the drainage, but the sewer water under that street still needs to be replaced. It's been on the CI, I think, every year since I've been on council.
Yeah. Um, and so living up on part T, I feel like there if we get an out of standard spec created, it could be applied potentially to other streets, it would meet spec from a design standpoint as far as how the road is constructed, how the sewer is installed, and the water and all of that, but maybe there's a variation on the width or a requirement for a sidewalk or those sorts of things. But um it certainly isn't going to be a just a one and done so to speak. I think there are other places it could be applied around town. I' I'd be okay with an offspec spec
if it was only available retroactively like any anything new. Correct. Oh, nothing can recede to that. It's only you can't lower a standard and maybe we can even identify the areas where it may be applied. There's only a handful of spots that are not upgraded roads um that would need to have like four street over here is super narrow. Yes. You know, there's no way you meet design standards. Correct. Right. So maybe that could be part of it. We could identify the areas that it would apply to and that's it.
And I don't know. And that's where really we want Michael and just we want them to I told Justin I said we're going to want you guys to weigh in if this is something we should you know we can't be the only one who has older parts of the town that just can't it is going to it is going to open a open the door that we need to make sure we know what we're doing if we're going to end up doing that. So you could treat it kind of like ADA where it is you need to get it up to standard if you can. Yeah. you know there's a response you just can't make there's no way you know so anyway yeah installing curb and gutter you know maybe just permitting parking on one side
creating a bike or walkway within the street you know a 4ft or 3ft something marked out um on the obviously the non-park yeah non parking side of the street you know I've seen variations around in communities so and you're are you on Cindy And Michelle, I think you Well, we thought it was. You're not going to be here. I said you're going to be gone. You, Keith, you said you Keith, you're going to come. Michelle, you want a contract? When is it? Right before the meeting on the 17th. Yeah. The 21st, whatever date it is. Could be detrimental to my business. Two weeks from today. Yeah. Really? Two weeks from
I I would go this just just to hear the there, right? But again, at the end of the day, it's never going to be cheaper than it is to do it today, you know, or sooner than later. And and not allow not waiting for the sewer to collapse or another resident to have to pay uh emergency fees, you know, in the middle of January to have their water line connected. Um doesn't seem like a great planning model. I'm not, but I wholeheartedly agree and I I'm even happier about it if we proactively identify when what areas it applies to for future upgrades. If we have to upgrade, send me the
That'll be I think that's some of the conversations we'll be able to have with that cuz you'll be here early, Craig, right? Yeah. Um I just think we want to and that's what I told this guy when he called. I said, "We just really want to have the conversation with you guys." Yeah. And some of the concerns on following design standards or not, ultimately it's it's a city street funded by the city. It's not development driven. You know, you're going to right at least meet the intent of your standards. Yeah. And we can we can go down that rabbit hole of what should the street look like after the fact. Once we know we, you know, go no go and then what are the real concerns of those residents? What do they want to see? you know, correct or find find a nice happy balance.
Well, yeah, I think I think it's it'll be a good good chance to have conversation with him. Yeah. So, okay. All right. Sounds good. Anything else for Michael? All right. Thank you. We'll move on to Craig's report. Um, just a few updates on my report. And um we were out the ponds today to take water sample on there. Our pH is too high right now. Okay. But we will be moving either later this week or first part of next week, we'll start moving the rest of that water out of the marated ponds over to pond number one and then we'll move it there and maybe we can get our PH to come down and just moving the water around. So we'll be getting on that pretty hard here now that the weather's finally breaking.
Yeah.
Uh some stuff in the parks. Uh the playground equipment there. Uh the contractors coming in this week. Um, I did hear back from a few people um where they wanted that and that was uh the consensus was put it where ISG had put it to begin with to the east of the original playground equipment there. The bigger stuff there so it has more shade. So that's where we'll got it marked out. That's where we're putting it. Um field a they should have that finalized or finished today or tomorrow. Probably finish dragging it tomorrow. They got the exam all put in there. So it's looking pretty good. Um, I've been I haven't had time to do any more with it, but we had some discussion on the tension cables with the pickle ball cords, you know, and this that we brought up at the park board one meeting. Um, I did get feedback from one of the members that they weren't that they didn't think it was necessary for tension. I did talk to Justin a little bit. We kind of kicked things back and forth on it. When I went and looked at the the cracking in there that's in there is actually where the saw cuts at were intended to crack. And we thought if we would do the saw cuts yet, fill them in with epoxy or some type of coaul that they can paint over top of it that would expand so we wouldn't notice that hairline crack in there. That's something we can look at doing. So, we haven't made a decision yet on really what to do with the pickle cord. So, it kind of it's going to raise price up considerably in it, but uh the contractor that did the other ones, I talked to him about it and he said that doesn't know how many contractors actually in soup balls can do it either. So, it does take quite a bit of extra work involved in it. So, okay.
What's our Is it currently a 4 in slab? Uh 5 in. It's 5 in. Y already a little thicker than the standard. Yeah. Fully rebar. It's got two rebar all the way through and all. So, I mean it's it it's pretty good slab, right? Yeah. So, but like I said, when I looked at the cracking looked more like it was I'm sure it's the the concrete does have a hairline crack in it, but you notice it because the paint the surface cracked the covering. So, I didn't see anything that was cracked where it wasn't intended to crack. That's what that was. Sure. And I I think as long as there's no deflection. Yeah. And that's all tied together with like I said it's all rebarred two foot on two foot. I mean it's solid rebar. Sure.
And this other one when we whatever we do we pin the next one to the the other slab so it can't they can't float apart so it'll stay together. So but that's something like said I got any further with it. I being on vacation last month was kind of kind of killed me is getting some moving ahead of some projects. Yeah. Who's Craig last month? When did he get started last month? So, that's where I'm at with the pickle ball courts. We're still kind of trying to decide what's the best way to what best way to do them.
Um, equipment. Um, public buildings over here. Uh, I've got contacted two other companies. They're giving me quotes on it. Um, I think they're going to be whole different construction type. One wants to put concrete floor in there, which I know is going to just kill the price of that building. Um, so I told him, I said, "Put together your recommendations and give me some quotes, stuff like that." So I got things to start comparing with. So I'm meeting with another company I think Thursday. So I should have all those numbers hopefully together for the next council meeting. So all right. And then uh the thing on my agenda, I guess, is uh for uh training. Uh there's a spring wastewater conference. Uh it's in Pier um April 15th to 16th. Um, I will have I do have a board meeting for operators um on the 14th at 2 o'clock. So, I would like to have me and Eric attend. We'd be going out Tuesday about 9:00 so we get there in time for the board meeting and then come back on Thursday for the approval.
All right. And Eric, is he taking his first round like uh he took one test here couple uh three two weeks ago. Um haven't seen the results yet. So make sure that's at um because that's starting like a class one. Is that what that that's what he's working for right now is class one. He had he can he can take the test but he actually won't be certified until he has a year of experience in. Okay. So but they take the test pass it and then just it's all retro on years of service. So then okay after he gets his ones done then he has to wait another I think it's another year before he can go after his twos. So keep working on that. Boy, the shelters look nice that these guys got Jeez, they look nice. All those be done. Uh we got one more to do.
Y um I look probably with Well, since it's been up the trying to get that field open cuz you know, both kids want to get planned. Sure. Um I'm thinking probably this week yet he'll get started on the other one and probably have wrapped up next week for sure. That's good. The restrooms are uh final like Yep. like Yep. Final inspections been on and everything like that. The only thing we got to do is um once and I'm I'm going to keep a close eye on the weather whether I want to open this Friday or not. Um we do have some stuff moving through next week. So I'm kind of back and forth with openness soon. Um but as soon as we're open, we just got to charge the system on that um new bathroom and chiggo which leaks in. So cool.
All right. Any action on Craig's request for them to go to the wastewater water and wastewater treatment seminar? Uh motion to approve request for Craig and Eric to attend the South Dakota Water and Wastewater Seminar. Second. Any discussion? Hearing none, we'll vote. Shelley, yes. Project, yes. Ke, yes. Matson, yes. Carlson, yes. All right. Anything else, Greg? Thank you. Oh, yeah. I just I've been trying to find a a a good solar light that would meet, you know, some specs and pass some Oh, for them some for the trail
for the bike trail, you know. And uh I've found that nobody in the solar light industry wants to talk to an electrician.
That's funny. But Gen Pro, Gen Pro has a very nice solar light. They're the ones that have installed them out in Belfoo and uh Spearfish and for the city of Sou Falls there at um that park just west of Unclean Freight. Okay. There's some solar lights that they you know they have some electrical parking lights there for that parking lot and they they put solar lights on anchored on um pole bases and everything, but they have they have the kind that can mount to a pole base or can be be direct buried. So, they've got several varieties, but I'm I'm expecting to see a price back from that guy. They have a 10-year battery life. I mean, they're pretty decent.
They're pretty decent, but I assume the price would follow um along with that. But if if you don't have to spend a you know, a lot of time maintaining them, that's worth something, too. So, I think I threw him for a loop when I said it has to have the ability to hang banners from it. And so, then it got quiet. So, we'll see what he comes back with. You said Belfoo and Spearfish. Also, those are two communities. If you go to Genpro's uh uh you know, they're they're in Pedmont there. If you go to their website, okay, they've got whole bunch of different projects that they've installed those for. And I can look into that and I can give the sure
public works a call and see what they think of them actually, too. Yeah. the I talked to the public works guy there in Spearfish and he kicked me over to the guy Jen Pro. So he he had nothing but good things to say about him. They've got him in several different areas there. So I wonder if Peter doesn't have them along the trail too along the river. You might be right. I think that might be on Jen Pro's website. Yeah. So anyway, I'll do some more research on too what you gave me. So thanks. You bet. How about lights on our sign out there? Um, I have not had them ordered yet. We gone a month. Don't keep bringing up this month. Gone. You got Amazon. You can order. Did you get the truck?
No, I did not. It was sold BEFORE I GOT HERE. IT'S BEEN GONE FOR A MONTH. They didn't hold it for you. They didn't make it every time.
Got to start taking notes. Craig, you anticipated and I apologize if I if you said it and I missed it. Uh, when do we anticipate that that new playground will go in? This week. Still this week. Yep. Oh, wow. Last I heard was this week. So, I think they're planning on either tomorrow or or Thursday cuz I know he said he had the wood chips ordered to come in on Friday. So, it should be completely if everything goes I thought they're using like a rubber. I didn't think they're using wood. chips are kind of No, they're they're wood wood chips. I looked at the specs that got sent out. Really? I thought they were kind of a plastic. They were supposed to be like a rubberized chip. I thought so, too. And no,
cuz I asked him about them. I I said, "Are these What are these engineered wood chips?" He said, "Yeah, they're actual engineered wood chips, just like what the rest of them are." Unless they How does an engineer make a wood chip? Very carefully. First you grind it up and then you press it all back together. Free little branches and stuff like that. I mean it's best, you know, free of nails. I thought it must be but when I seen the specs the other day, that's what it showed. So I don't know if there's a miscommunication somewhere else to look into that.
Yeah, I think the expectation is not wood chips. Uh me and the lady that is on the park and rec board don't talk about it a lot. You might want to have discussion. I'll look and see a base here that the company screwed up and I thought that's what we talked about. That's what I thought too. I seen the plans and that's something I had that question on there and I was like so I asked the guy and he said they're wood chips. So it's something I will look into. They identify as wood chips OR THEY'RE WOW. I'LL LET THAT GO. I'll let that go.
All right. Thanks, Greg. Welcome back also. Yeah. Yeah. Karen,
yes. My report's in the packet. Um, we finally are getting our Reliable Bank switch over done. Um, I moved the bulk of our money on the 1st of April. Um we have one count left that has about 150,000 in it. And that's where Rhonda's a goes for um water payments. So we're still working through that with her software and the bank to get that all done. And once we know we can go in, then I'll move that money. But if we have to keep it open for one more month because she's does that on the 15th. She starts her process
probably on the 13th or 12th. So, so that's going good. Um, our current money market rate with Relia Bank is 3.37. When we left First Interstate, it was 2.95. Okay. So, that's good. Up about42 for this month. And they'll look at that monthly on the first of each month and adjust accordingly. So they base it off the FD fit rate um that you would make if you had money in there and then they add um 0.05 to it. So they're five 0.05 higher than that. Okay. South fit rate. So good.
That's all for my report. Then I have a couple action items. Okay. First one is the uh annual report. Annual report. auditors got that done for us. I looked over all the revenue and expenditure figures and they all match our books. This is unudited financials for the city and then later this summer they'll come in and do the actual audit. Okay, we'll get the audit report.
All right. Uh action on that from the council. Motion to approve the 2025 annual report as presented. Second. Any discussion? Hearing none, we'll vote. Carlson, yes. Matson, yes. Ke, yes. Parach, yes. Shel, yes.
All right. What's your other one, Karen? The other one is um some an uncashed check that is over a year old. Um we kind of look at these checks once a year and if they get super old then we try to reach out to who got the check and tell them either let us know if you lost it, we'll reissue it or cash it. Um these this check was particular check was for $12.37 was a refund of a person's water deposit when they moved out. Um, we've attempted five times to contact them with no response. And since it's under $50, we can just write it off our books with council approval. If it were over $50, we have to send it to the state to the unclaimed property division. So, we would just like approval to write that check off.
Right. Somebody want to make that motion? I'll make a motion to remove the outstanding check 4247 from city vote. Second. Any discussion? Hearing none, we'll vote. Shelley, yes. Yes. Gio, yes. Matson, yes. Carlson, yes. Anything else, Karen? Nope. That's it. That was really good. Paintless. Let's move to Teresa's report. She's got all kinds of good things to share with us.
A lot of info mainly just if you have questions, but kind of just gave you um an update on the grants that we have going out there. Haven't heard anything back from the Hartford Community Foundation as far as the grants submitted for the dishwasher at the Gage House. Um as Michael says, we've got all the information to SECOK to submit for the trails grant to go up to the sports complex. So just working on that. um the bridge inspection grant that um you know got got approved. We have got all the paperwork in place for that now. That's all um in the works and going. And then just a little update on that safe uh streets and roads grant. Um San Houston is and is still working on that. I put that website out there again in case you guys want to take a look at that. that it's where they kind of want public input of where you think our unsafe intersections are, where you have safety concerns or whatnot. Um, we haven't gotten some response from the community there. So, that that's good feedback. Um, I think next month they'll kind of take all those responses. They're going to look at the actual traffic data as far as crash data and whatnot and kind of start incorporating that into some of the reports. Um, besides that, I gave you a summer higher update. Um, so far we've got, um, Jerry and Monte to come back to the yard waist site and that opened this last Saturday. So, um, we've got that covered. We've hired two public works assistants so far. We're probably looking at at least one, not two more. We'll we'll see how that works out. And then Amy Sever's coming back as the pool manager this week, too. I've done so far five interviews for other like lifeguards and assistant managers um interviewing them and um have a couple other applications still out there
interview. So I'm hoping this month we'll kind of get all those positions filled. I think I threw out to you guys on one of my updates. I did get word that Laura Johnson is not coming back as the director of the
park wreck program. So far, I do not have any other applicants or interest in that. So, um Laura said she would try to reach out to people she knew to see, put the bug in anybody's ear. So, hopefully maybe we get somebody who gets interested in that. Um luckily that program doesn't start till July. So, we got a little more time here. But, um as we get closer and if we don't get anyone for that program, we'll probably have to kind of talk about that a little bit more what we're going to do or what we can do, I guess. Um, so we'll just kind of keep an eye on that. I'll keep you guys updated to see if we get any applicants or any interest in that. And then kind of the rest of my report. Um, I went to quite a few meetings over the last uh couple weeks. Um, different things. Um, tomorrow I'm going to be attending the home builders association Daniel meeting. They wanted they kind of been inviting um the towns around Sou Falls for kind of a little update on your city of what's happening, good things, what your growth is and whatnot. So, I'm going to attend that lunchon tomorrow, kind of give them a little update on Hartford. And then um I put in there um um week ago, over a week ago, I went to that um South Dakota City Managers Association meeting that day and a half training there. Kind of give you a little update of that. That was real good. It was informative. It's it's nice to connect with the other area city managers and kind of um get that, you know, camaraderie going there. A little bit of peer talk there. Um also attended the Dakota Main STEM annual meeting there. So give you a little update of what's going on there. Currently right now they have got the appraisal study done um portion. So basically the appraisal study is just they've got to show do we need more water, do we not need more water? And like we all know, we're going to need more water in the future. Water's scarce. And so now they're actually going into the feasibility um phase of the study, which is a little
more indepth, intense. Okay, we need more water. Where's going to come from? How are you going to run the lines? You know, who needs what, who gets service first. It's it's going to be more in-depth study. And that's about a year and a half, two and a half year year. It's going to take some time to get that all completed. All these studies are needed in order to go to basically to the Bureau of Reclamation to get funding for this huge project. So, as we've said in the past, this is a 10, 20 year project, 30-year project going out before it's totally complete. It's just like a Louiswis and Clark, but here are the first steps and it's it's well on their way. And then I gave you a little update too on the district three meeting and some of the legislative bills that come out that are going to affect municipalities. Um there are a few of them out there. Kind of the biggest ones, the two biggest ones I see is that um the tiff they made some changes in um tiff districts and when municipality can allow, not allow, whatnot. And then they also did um some changes. They implemented a new they call it the caps basically and it's a capital improvement program. This is the one where cities if by the vote of the people say they have a project to do and just for say we want to do a pool project. You know it could be one possible project. We'd have to present that to our citizens saying we're going to do this project and it cost x amount of dollars. They'd have to vote on it. If they vote on it we'd implement a 1% sales tax to help pay for that project. uh once that project is done, you know, you have to set a certain time period to do that. Once it's done, that goes away. So, it's very project, you know, specific um to do that and there's, you know, it has to be a vote of the people, but this can allow a little more local control that the citizens get a vote on, yeah, we will we'll we'll be okay paying for this
because we want this. So, it kind of gives, like I said, a little more options to cities of being able to have another funding mechanism for things that your community wants. I did put some information in the packet, the little sheet. They're they're going on those two items. Um, the EDPA and the municipal league are going to have a couple of Zoom meetings to kind of go a little more in depth with, you know, just what are the specifics of those changes. Um, so I put those links on there. Um, one is on April 20th, one's on the 21st. They have the same information, so you can sit in on either one of them. I'm going to sit in on the 20th one, but if you want some more information or interested in that, those links are in the packet for you, too. But I plan to kind of get kind of the details of that too and see how we might be able to utilize either one of these programs or what the changes are. So, is there any questions on all that information?
Can you make any questions? That's a lot. That's a lot. A lot of information couple weeks. Reading the uh mini haha message here. There was mentioned about three new housing developments coming to Harvard. I was trying to place what those were and where those would be at. Probably well the Jans of course probably the Neielson one. Um Windsor maybe or Salt Main. Yeah. Or South Main possibly. Sure. See that's the one I Yeah, whichever ones they That's the one I mentioned. That was the other one I could think of. Yeah. Yeah. I for
I forget about that but I kind Yeah. Um because transfer owners. Sure. Yep. Yep. Okay. Yeah. So those those all could be the and Windsor, I guess, could be considered. Yeah, Windsor could be considered one as well. So we got we got development going. So I think the next few years will be good hopefully with building perk for development. Yeah. and Ardan's conversation with uh the resident of Kelly Avenue there, you know, they admitted they like Hartford being a small community. Yeah.
Um I think the residents should understand that the growth is going to come and it's our job to be intentional with where it goes, how it looks, and that it's by design as much as we can control that, you know. So good growth versus Yeah. And we're in the position we could take it on. Yeah. Right. Right. Well, and I totally Yeah. in place and
we are trying very all the time to make sure that we're keeping our infrastructure ahead of where we're at and what are we doing? And after I explained that, he said, "Oh, yeah. Yeah, that makes sense." So he said, "I know I know what you guys are doing, but then he said, I still would just sue not, you know." Yeah. Right. There's people that they just don't want to see us, you know. Oh, yeah. They don't want to see that. I've talked to those too. They just don't want growth. And fortunately, like they always say, if you're not growing, you're dying. So, and this holds us. We will have growth. And we just have to make we have good controlled growth. Yeah. Intentional. So,
stay ahead of it. So, and I think we're doing a good job with look looking, you know, at our water contracts and our water doing the water study and putting in the new mechanical. I mean, we're keeping upgraded with our infrastructure and that's Yep. that's all part of it. Is it is it worth talking with Teresa about um chickens out east of town? And it's not the chickens really that that's on city property. I guess that's beside the point, but uh it's the accessing that parcel across city property that appears to maybe be a excess I think it's all excessive use of city property.
Yeah. So I don't know all the council but um we got a complaint there. There are chicken like right where our lift station is going on Highway 38 there's a row of trees there.
There's chickens back in there. Well it's not on the city's property. It's on private property, but that parcel is in city limits. So, we don't allow chickens in city limits. So, uh we sent a letter out to the owner of it stating, you know, can't have chickens in city limits. Um yeah, part of that is too this person and and they they live across or they live north and Hartford Heights is where their actual residence is, but they own that parcel, you know, south of the lift station there. um they've been driving AC across the city parcel to get access to their coups or the chickens and whatnot. So, yeah, they're they're not only having chickens in city limits, they're driving on the city's property to get to them. Um after he got that letter, he did come into city hall and we did have a conversation with them. Um I just explained and told him the map that this parcel is in city limits. he does own right to the south of there a second parcel that he's got 18 and a half acres and I said you know that's in the county so you can definitely move them you know anywhere on that 18 and 12 acres there cuz that's in the county and they allow them I said or you know his actual home parcel up in Harford Heights that's an acre a little little right at an acre as well I said you know you that's in the county as well so you could have them there so um I don't know if it was this week. He has a deadline date, you know, moving and uh to date, I don't think he has done anything with it. So, he he wasn't real happy about having to move them. So,
have they always been there? No, they just came in recently. So, it's not like they've always say I've only noticed them recently, but sometimes I can be oblivious. So, Right. No, they they they haven't always been there. It's been recent here.
Yeah. So after this was brought to my attention, I'm looking at Google Maps and the GIS and the thing that is most concerning to me isn't is the the bridge that's been built over Turtle Creek, the Earth & Dam uh is probably my bigger concern cuz it's on city property. That's his property, but it's annexed into the city, I should say. It's not on city property. It's on his property, but it's in the city. And I feel like it's impeding the flow of Turtle Creek. Now, you can't do that. I guess I never It's really apparent. Is it really apparent once you see it, you can't unsee it. I can't drive by their west anymore without seeing it.
Yeah. Yeah. We probably should go back in there and check it out and see. Yeah. Like you guys know, when you go to Google Maps, you can't put any bridge over it. Female. Well, if something happens and backs up water, FEMA will be all over us with that. I I wouldn't want the liability if I was that property owner. Yeah. So that's probably my biggest concern. Yeah. And all in actuality too that the city could be liable for allowing that not be there, not be permitted to be there, right? Yeah. It's It's uh significant to get across the curb. Right there. Probably built.
That's what it sounds like. So, here's where they're driving across the city property. But this is in city limits, but it's damning up Turtle Creek. Yeah. Well, we'll have to address that as well. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you can definitely see that. It's really going to be mad. As I was looking for places to put our tree down dome, I was like, "Hey, look at that dam right there. What's going on?" It must have happened in the last month. It's been pretty rude. Well, this picture from Cougen Mass is Yeah, it's pretty new. It had to happen when I was going. It hadn't happened when I was going.
I think it did. I think 100%. That's three or four now. Craig. Okay. That right there. That's enough. Uh Teresa, any future time off requests from Craig need to go through city council. Yeah. Yeah. I think we we need to monitor this a little. All right. Anything else, Teresa? No. All right. Thank you for that update. Let's move to old business since we Travis uh broached the discuss our yard waste uh disposal trees. Let's talk about that.
Yep. So, you know, we we talked about this a little bit at the last meeting and we're going to eventually with the sale of the land to Gateway Harbor find a new place for long-term tree branches, you know, um as we collect them throughout the season and then, you know, dispose of them. We were putting off the lagoon site that we're now we're going have to move what's there and any future ones somewhere. We had talked a little bit about um Craig had approached Jeff Saccharias about possibly you know using his property. Unfortunately he wants 50 a month rental for that. Then we started talking about let's see if maybe we got someplace else city property. We did look so then just right west of Jess parcel we had that little triangle corner or east. Yes. East of it at the triangle corner that um is owned by the city right by you know the the offramps there. I put a mapping in your packet. Uh the creek kind of goes through there and the actually the west half is pretty sloped so you know you can't really drive across that or there's no good place to put it there. But on the east side that is all pretty flat. Me and Craig drove back there and you could drive all the way to the back corner of that property. It's got fence all around it. Um we have gates that we would take from the lagoons to put out there so we could secure the property. You know, we just have to reinforce the fence a little bit. Put the gates up. Like I said, we can take it all the way to the back end of that corner there and put clean or something there for the
There's a is that where the connection point goes across underneath the interstate. So, well, she's got proposed sight out there. There is that fence line in there. The sewer, the forest bane that's actually to the uh west of that a little bit yet. Outstate on that side that other It's kind of like two parcels in there if you kind of want to do it that way. So, we would go all the way back to the fence line back there. It's what you figure about 600 ft. 800 ft almost. Well, from the sign it was 800 or so from the entrance probably. Yeah. And that's all flat. Nice. You can drive it. You can get a semi in there. You know, mers could get their semi in there to be able to chop the wood and be able to haul it out.
This is just the city that drops off. We move. Yeah. Anything like a waste, right? I I'm just thinking where that entrance entrance is. It's like dangerous. Oh, no. Be our guys. They would still would do everything the way we do it now. The general public would bring it down to where it's at and then we would haul once twice a week out to this site. I think yeah, we don't want the general public on this. It would be just our guys hauling what accumulates at the current dite now. Just like Yeah, like Craig said, just like they do what's currently out at the lagoons. Yeah. Right.
Moving it over there. I've got a I've got a proposal. reach out to Gateway Hartford and see if you can't lease that ground from them for another 12 months or something because I don't think there's going to be any progress. Well, you know, just a thought. In actuality, we do have a lease on it for this first year. That's what I thought. Okay. Um we were just thinking, you know, no, we need to get out of there until we got a year. So, I mean, we really don't have to move it right now. Okay. But the trouble is that we don't got a chipper anymore there. Yeah. And I could check and see if Mueller can get moved in there because they'd be the same thing as long as they can get equipment. Yeah. That just can they get their equipment in there?
Okay. Yeah. I thought we There's no urgency, right, to move it, right? Okay. And if we had to, there's a diversion box up on the top of that when you come in by ariation A. We could tear that out and get that filled in. So we actually have a wider notch up there for them to get through there because we met with some guys quite a few years ago and they looked at they said that's just too narrow for us to try to get through here. So Okay. So we could tear that box out of there and make that a little bit wider approach or drive in there. Yeah, sure. Since we I agree with Travis, we got I know we got to lease this at least this year probably into 27. That would be ideal if we could leave out there because we do have quite a pile out there already that we would have to move.
Don't want to handle them again. Yeah, let's don't handle them again. So, I would say uh status quo for this year and then we'll probably have to towards the end of the year look what we're going to do for 2027. And really, we do have like you say we do have that lease in place for 26. We do. Yeah. So, and that can be addressed with the Gayway Hartford board. Yeah. So, if we're all good with that, let's just not take any action. Yeah. Keep them out there for this year because I think we're covered for this year and then we'll just, you know, address it next year. We need to Yeah, we're good. I think we're good. I don't know that we need to vote on that. No, there's nothing that plan.
There's been a couple comments about ours. I don't know that we I don't know that we need to expand. I mean, Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday seems to work. There's people that would love to have it open every day. We're just not going to do that. That everybody would be happy with you had it open 24/7 and then Yeah. Yeah. I I was out there this evening before the meeting, dropped some stuff off. You got to pull up so that you pin Jerry in his minivan so he can't come out and chew chew on you if you got commercial plates. He can't open his door. He can roll down and yell at you, but he can't get out. But no, u he's doing his job.
He's doing He takes his Yeah. Yeah. He had a couple He said he chased off a couple commercial uh vehicles today. Um they were doing work for residents in town who have the rights to dump there but because of how our ordinance is written. Yeah. And the thing is we don't know where they came from. Correct. Exactly. That's the whole thing. Well and they have to dump their stuff somewhere. So part of their pricing really good chance they probably build the customer to dispose of it. Look at Facebook. Yes. I wasn't being quite as direct accusing them, but
right. I don't know who they are. I mean, just But yeah, Jerry earns his keep. Yeah, he does put it that way. He does. So, all right. We're good on that. All right, let's uh move down to new business. We got a couple items. First one, we want to discuss a deadline for our economic development proposals. Do we want to put a I guess I would call it a date specific of when we're going to uh start making the decisions on those.
You guys had kind of we kind of mentioned this at the last meeting as well as you know we we got two proposals for sure. You know do we want to put a deadline on accepting them? So then we can review whatever proposals we have in and start deciding yeah what you guys want to do with your funds. Um, we should probably communicate, however we communicated the availability of those funds, we should communicate the deadline. Yeah. Yep. Yep. We throw it out there. I I think and then when we put it out next year, you should deadline on it. Y
there is a some there should be a deadline in this year pretty quick. Yeah. One of the proposals is sort is time dependent. Correct. I was thinking, you know, May one. May one. Yeah. I'd say we would communicate the deadline date is May one. Do you need that in the motion or no? I don't think so. It's not like we're doing anything. I would just need input on it. So, we'll shoot that out. Let's put it out as May one. Perfect. Everybody's okay with that.
Okay. The last item there under new business is discuss our special meeting for the 2027 budget. This is uh kind of started by my idea. Oh, wait. Maybe it's Travis's idea. His ideas. Any good ideas are Travis. We haven't said that for a while. Jeez. Thanks. Wow. um that we would uh basically have a little uh have a premeating with our entities that are asking for money, give the council in a not under the gun kind of a format where they could come in. We could ask them some questions. We'd set them all off for a certain amount of time, let them come in and make their pitch and off we'd go. We just need to find a date that works for everybody. We probably should do it in June, do you think? or July or what do you think?
I I would like to do it July for sure. July or even early early August at the latest just cuz by the end of August when we have to have our budget meeting. So I'd like to be able to take whatever comes out of that you know special meeting with recommendations get that incorporated the budget before it gets presented to you guys. So July would be ideal. Would that be a special meeting? That's yeah, televised. That's air. That would have would it have to be on YouTube? I just think of our last budget meeting and we were we were blessed that our camera didn't kick on until 7:00, you know, cuz we started at 6:30. I think that's what happened that evening.
Yeah, for some reason. We missed we missed some drama and that's really for me the camera and we talked about do we want to do P&Zs and partner I think we decided we would start any official meetings of the city we would televise them. Okay. So I just try to make it as non uh yeah confrontational as it as we can get it. Right. And you say here at the bottom that every Tuesday in July and August is already booked with either city council or planning and zoning. Monday or Wednesday, four weeks in in there. So, so yeah, I would maybe send out a quick Google send out a quick Google poll for you guys.
Yep. Send out a quick Google poll and we'll all put in our votes and then Yeah. Then we'll decide. Could I just say one thing for the Jambbury Committee? They don't do the wrap-up meeting till like I think the first week in July. Yeah. So they won't know where where the budgets really at what they did for the next right away. First in July they sent out requests you know to get it back into me. I've given them the dead of deadline of July 15th. Yeah. So we'll go toward the middle toward the middleization. So pick the dates Teresa Monday and Wednesdays couple weeks there and hit it. Yep. Okay. We'll do. Okay.
All right. Do we have anything that we need to go into exec for? Um I have personnel just to give you an update on a applicant and interview. Okay. Unless uh let's say economic development motion to move into executive for personnel and economic development. Second. All in favor? I. All right. Let's do that. What about your gravel? So yeah, it's been a Okay. All right. Motion to adjourn. I so moved. Second. And all in favor? I I
thank you all. All right.
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