Director of Aviation - Regular Meeting

Chair.

Eric French, 4th District.

Councilman Duncan, 6th District.

Online.

Councilman Robinson. Can you hear us, Councilwoman?

I'm trying to unmute her.

Can you hear us?

No. Okay. It was muted in the chamber. Good morning. Melissa Robinson, 3rd District. Thank you. Staff.

Martha Ross, City Clerk's Office.

Jeff Martin, City Manager's Office. Drew Bonkowski, Law Department. Ken Morgan, Water Services.

I'm in the Anne and Creole Department.

Thank you very much. Go to the first ordinance. There will be no holds today, so let's go directly.

260669, authorizing the Director of Water Services to execute a $2,442,330 construction contract for Kizzik Construction Company for the water main replacement in the area of Truce Avenue to Brooklyn Avenue, East 83rd Street to East 85th Street project, authorizing a maximum expenditure of $2,686,563 and recognizing this ordinance has had an accelerated effective date. Thank you, David.

Good morning, Chair O'Neill. David Boyer with Casey Water, Chief Engineering Officer. To my right, I have Namisha Sananiaka. She is the Engineering Section Head of Water Distribution. I just want to say happy voting day to you all. So today, ordinance number 260669 is a water main replacement project. This contract is a $2.4 million project to replace about 5,400 linear feet of break-prone water main. This project aims to replace aging break-prone cast iron pipe with new, more resilient ductile iron pipe. This contract was advertised to bid. We received three or five bids, and with Kissick being the lowest responsible bidder. This project is project number three out of 10 slated for fiscal year 27. So far to date, we bid three projects. Hopefully with the vote result today, we'll be able to proceed with the remainder of the slated projects for this fiscal year. I'd like to turn it over to Nimesha for additional information on this project.

Good morning. This is Nimesha Senanayake. I'm the engineering section head in water distribution. This is the project map, project site map. We are replacing approximately 5,455 linear feet of 4-inch, 6-inch, 8-inch break-prone CIP water pipes with 6-inch, 8-inch, and 12-inch ductile iron pipes. Slide, please. For public engagement, we will post a public information sheet on our webpage, KC Water project site, and there will be a virtual pre-construction and a public meeting. KC Water and city leaders will be invited internally, and affected customers would receive a postcard, and the postcard would have a QR code that they can scan to join the meeting. this is an opportunity for affected customers to meet the project team that includes the project manager contractor inspector and also during the meeting we'll give an overview of the project and construction activity the meeting will be recorded and it will be posted online also during the construction phase contractors will notify the customers prior to traffic disruptions as well as before brief water outages. Next slide. MBE, WBE subcontractor participation, Creo KC approved the cup on July 20th with 11% MBE and 11% WBE participation. MBE firm, TWS Trucking, WBE firm, EJ & Sons Construction.

Do we take any questions?

Colleagues have any questions? I don't see any. Is someone from Kissick here?

We contacted them.

We did, yeah.

Let's be stuck in traffic or something. I'm sorry, sir.

We'll let them.

We'll let Kissick slide on this one. We'll give them a lashing when we return.

Just because... unrelated, there was some water main work on Gillum fairly recently, and actually several different rounds of it, and The cycle track at 36th Street was not kind of put back in the track. So the crosswalk is still needs to be fixed. And so there's some of the flex posts didn't get returned. So just if someone could check on that, it'd be great to see that brought back up to what it was like prior to the construction.

100%. That's just north of 39th Street, right? Yeah. On Gillom.

Yeah, yeah. Similarly related, and this might be a question for Director Morgan, how are we looking? I know that we had some delays regarding resurfacing after we've done some water main replacement work. I know that in my district on 49th Street, that seemed to take quite a long while. The resurfacing on, I believe it was Southwest Trafficway, seem to take quite a long while. So what is causing the delay in that road resurfacing after we do that water work underground, and what are we doing to expedite that?

That's a good question. With a number of projects to where you have different streets where the water main replacement activities exist, What we've been doing is just trying to have the resurfacing contractors mobilize singularly. And sometimes that creates a problem because you have one project completed and then it takes a little longer before you get another project completed. So to mobilize to get the resurfacing done that encompasses all of that is more of a timely process. takes a little bit longer time so what we're doing is trying to coordinate a better scheduling to get the resurfacing contractors in in a timely manner once the work is done. Part of that is going to possibly require us to restructure some of the contract documents so that we can get that done in a more expeditious manner. That's the biggest challenge is just when they mobilize, each time they mobilize there are certain additional charges and so we're trying to establish a mechanism so where those numbers are reduced or balanced over the entire projects.

Thank you for that. I guess my question is, do we know, do you have a little bit of a ballpark average of how long generally it's taking, like once a water main replacement is done, how long before the resurfacing will happen?

I will say this past fiscal year, We aim to improve upon what happened last year. Part of it was a funding issue. But six months is the current maximum amount of time. We aim for less than a month. So like Director Morgan was saying, if you look at this map, for instance, and this is a relatively small project. It's only 5,400 linear feet. Typically, it's two to three times greater. You can see that the streets aren't contiguous. So what happens is one segment will get completed. We'll lay down the concrete, which is a durable, reliable surface, but it's not the end product, right? And then we wait for the entire project to be completed and then mobilize and do that entire project. We found that this isn't acceptable, and we're going to track in the future segment by segment and get these done at a... quicker pace. So that's done within a month of that street being completed. We're currently working actually with Public Works to work out the particulars on this.

Thank you. Because our residents don't know. All they see is a torn up road for six months and wondering why the hell it's not getting repaid. So thank you.

Any other? I might, while we're on water, ask Director I sent you an email the other day about the hacking. I think you guys might have seen the story. There was a bunch of water projects hacked around the country, and I just asked the director if we have, as a city, a plan going forward to make sure that we are not one of the hacked victims of this.

Do you want me to give an update on it?

Yeah, just give us an update on what we have in the works to make sure that that's not occurring.

So the water industry as a whole has several layers of entities and agencies, some federal and some industry related agencies that are monitoring the IT and OT. So the internet technology activity as well as the operational technology activity. And so the differences in those is how you manage and operate plants as well as how you access into systems and such. And so we as an industry have standards for monitoring and observing. And the question you raised to me the other day was relative to the incidents that occurred in Minnesota, July 26th and 27th, where approximately 30 community water systems were attacked with threats of cyber attacks and so on. Those were observed, monitored, and what is happening now is it's trying to identify the sources. So to make a long story short, there are a number of ways in which our industry is monitoring, observing, and there are a number of mechanisms in place to thwart and to distort and to stop, if you will, illegal access from those entities. August 20th, I'm going to be in Denver at a water security summit, and there are new provisions in terms of identifying and assessing threats. And so the standards have changed. And so we're going to be discussing that in all day workshop in Denver, August the 20th. And so I'll come back to this body and provide a report. But. To answer your question in short, there are a lot of mechanisms in place to protect and to guard our systems against illegal access.

Any other questions? All right. I would ask if there is any public testimony on this ordinance.

No public testimony.

I would entertain a motion.

Yes, Mr. Chair, I move that ordinance number 260669 be reported out of the committee as a recommendation or advance to be passed. Second. All those in favor?

Aye. All those against? The ordinance passes. Thank you.

260, excuse me, 260670, authorizing the manager of procurement services to execute a $2,800,000 facility repair and maintenance contract for Lippert mechanical services for the HVAC Preventative Maintenance and Repair Project, authorizing four successive one-year renewal options, with further City Council approval in recognizing this ordinance as having an accelerated effective date.

Good morning, Chair O'Neill and Councilmembers. David Poyer with Casey Water, Chief Engineering Officer. ORDINANCE NUMBER 260670 IS REQUESTING AUTHORIZATION FOR $2.8 MILLION CONTRACT WITH A FOUR YEAR RENEWAL OPTION. This contract is for our HVAC preventative maintenance and repair contract. We have over 110 facilities. I don't know if you guys realize that. We have obviously the one treatment plant, six wastewater treatment plants, over 18 pump stations, water pump stations, 63 sewage pump stations, various flood pump stations, and administrative buildings. So this contract addresses all the HVAC systems within those facilities. This contract was publicly advertised and received two competitive bids, with Liberty Mechanical being the lowest responsible bid. So here's an example, photographs indicating the types of facilities that we're working on. As you can see, there's a variety of different types of HVA systems. It requires a specialized knowledge of these systems to maintain them and then repair them when they need to be repaired. This contract. Utilization, CREO utilization for this contract came in with a 12 and 12 MBE, WBE participation. You can see the firms listed on this slide who will be achieving those goals. And with that, I'll take any questions.

You have someone from Lippert, I believe. Thank you for attending. Appreciate it.

Any questions from my colleagues?

I would ask for any public testimony.

There's no public testimony for this ordinance.

I would entertain a motion.

Mr. Chair, I move that Ordinance Number 260670 be reported out of committee with the recommendation of advance and do pass.

Second. All those in favor?

Aye.

All those opposed? Ordinance passes. Thank you, guys. Thank you, David.

Orness 260673, authorizing the director of water services to execute a $1,300,000 professional specialized or technical services contract with Pure Technologies Waits Water Services for the hydrant and water valve assessment management and mapping project and authorizing five successive one-year renewal options with further city council approval.

Good morning, Chair O'Neill and council members. I'm David Poyer, Chief Engineering Officer at KC Water. Ordinance number 260673 is a contract for our hydrant and water valve assessment program. This contract authorizes $1.3 million with five successive one-year renewal options with your approval, of course. This contract involves the exercising and assessment of a number of our valves for our system. We're required by law actually to So this contract has Wox Construction, I believe is the name of the company. Water Services. Oh, Wox Water Services. They touch about one-eighth of these hydrants. What they do here is they exercise the hydrants, they flush the hydrant, and then they take a number of data parameters that we feed into a logging system that we then use to analyze how the system's operating. So we find their service very useful in that regard. They also touch about one-eighth of our valve system every year. They collect also data upon the system, how many number of turns. They also do a number of in-place repairs. So what we found was with this contract, by replacing the op nut or various parts of the valve mechanism that can be replaced in place, we've lengthened the life of that asset and reduced the cost for repair since we don't have to excavate to repair. They have specialized tools and equipment to do this type of work. MBEWB goals for this contract are set at 15 and 15. MBE firm SE3 group will be participating on the minority-owned side, and J&J Survey will be doing the work on the women-owned business side. I'd be willing to take any questions you have about this contract.

Any questions for my colleagues? Is there someone here from PURE or...

Walks. They're here. There. They are here.

Walks? Yeah. You guys are walks? Yeah. Thanks for coming. Appreciate it. All right. Any public testimony on this?

There's no public testimony for this ordinance. I would entertain a motion.

Mr. Chair, I move that ordinance number 260673 be reported out of committee with recommendation for advanced city pass.

Second.

All those in favor?

Aye.

Aye. Aye.

All those opposed? The ordinance passes. Thank you. Thank you.

2, 6, 0, 6, 7, 5, reducing appropriations in the capital improvement sales tax fund by $4 million from district one project, holding appropriating $4 million from the unappropriate, unappropriated fund balance of the capital improvement sales tax fund for the construction of Barry and Indiana section and stately high Northeast show Creek Parkway and recognizing this ordinance is having an accelerated effective day.

Good morning, Mr. Chairman, members of the committee, Todd LaTorella, Public Works Capital Projects. To my right, I have Aaron Peck, Project Manager, Capital Projects. Ordinance 260675 appropriates funding for two projects. One on the top of the slide there is Northeast Shoal Creek Parkway, essentially from the roundabout at North Woodland Ave over to Northeast 108th Street. The second project are the intersection improvements at Northeast Berry Road and North Indiana Ave.

So on the 4 million being moved over, it is coming from another District 1 project, am I correct?

I can't answer that.

Okay.

I can find out. I believe the split is $1 million going to the intersection improvements, Indiana and Barry, and the $3 million going to the Northeast Shoal Creek Parkway.

Is any of that going to the streetlight that is the temporary streetlight we have there on Indiana and Barry?

Yes, yes. That's part of the improvements is installing the permanent street lighting, which we have to do, add the turn lanes and things like that in order to get those installed.

And the improvements up by Staley High School, which is right in front of Staley High School, are what?

That's encompassed from essentially the roundabout at Woodland all the way over to Northeast, 108th Street will include. Basically, we're going to tee that intersection up on Northeast Staley Road. We're actually going to tee that into, I think that's Falcon Drive that goes into the Staley High School. So we're going to make that a tee intersection, if you look at the picture there. But that goes intersection improvement.

And that's for safety?

Yes. Yes, sir.

We've had a lot of accidents there. Excuse me? We've had a lot of accidents.

Yes.

Okay. Any other questions?

Is this on the District 1 CIP's program?

Yeah. Yeah, we've been working on this for quite a while and I will say Nathan has put a lot of effort into this and we've been trying to find funding for that stately road for quite some time. Yes, sir. All right. Any other questions? Any public testimony?

There's no public testimony for this ordinance.

All right, I would entertain a motion.

Yes, Mr. Chair, I move that Ordinance Number 260675 be reported out of committee with recommendation to advance to pass.

Second. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. All those opposed? The ordinance passes. Thank you, gentlemen.

Thank you.

Now I think we're going to have a... Short presentation from the, with a jail update from our Corrections Department.

Community Safety Department. Sorry, Mr. Chair. Director Knapp, Deputy Director Case.

Now you're just showing off because you know everybody's name.

Are you ready, sir?

Yep, please.

Good morning, Chairman O'Neill. Good morning, council members. Thank you for having us. I'm Diana Knapp. I'm the director of the Department of Community Safety. I have with me Deputy Director of Administration, Megan Case, and Deputy Director of Operations, Lucas Castilleja. We are here to give you an update on the progress of the Kansas City Municipal Correctional and Rehabilitation Facility located at 7740 East Front Street. Things are progressing very well. This project has been done in record time. All of the consultants involved agree that they've never seen a correctional facility of this size come up this quickly. And so it has been done incredibly well given the time parameters that were allocated in the budget and resources and the intention. So as corrections professional, I'm very pleased with what the facility has to offer in this phase, in phase one of the overall program. We are expecting the department and the consulting group to be able to do a full presentation to council on the further phases of the project to include the permanent facility and the community resource center plans. I think you're going to be really pleased with those. Right now, there's a request for a business meeting on September 3rd. and it is our hope to present at that meeting. So that is in the works, so a much more comprehensive vision of the overall plan is going to be available. In the short term, this facility is designed for a rated capacity of 136 beds. Now what that means is the operational capacity is about 110. It is an industry standard that you don't fill a correctional facility past 80%, and the reasons for that are You need to be able to separate people appropriately to their classification. You also need to be able to vacate parts of the facility for ongoing maintenance and repairs, which are inevitable. When you overfill a facility, security is challenged. It becomes less safe. It becomes difficult to separate people who need to be separated, and it becomes virtually impossible to do any routine care and maintenance. So I just wanted to, every chance I get, I want to make sure that we're educating everybody about the difference between rated capacity and operational capacity. At this point, the building does not have temporary certificate of occupancy yet, but we do expect, we're hoping, optimistic we'll have that by the end of the week, and I'll let ACM Martin weigh in on that here in just a moment. We expect at this point to be able to take releases off KCPD's plate by the end of September. That is my target date for that operations to do so, I only need to be able to run two shifts.

You're talking about the leases in Vernon and Johnson?

That's correct. Right now, those individuals are transported up to South Patrol, and we want to have them transported to our facility and then released from there. So I think that by September 30th, we should be able to pull that off. Procurement and legal are working very hard right now on all of the varied service contracts that need to be in place. Probably the most important among those is the medical services contract and they need 90-day window to get operational following contract signature. So we can run a release operation with them, with ER being our resource, because we would only have individuals at the facility for a very tiny window. But we can't have overnight people until we've got medical in place. So that's just one of the hurdles that needs to be crossed to get there. But I can tell you that we're getting a lot of help from HR. like I saw already, procurement and legal, IT. We still have to, we can't have anything delivered to the facility until we take control of the building. So a lot of deliveries have yet to be scheduled for equipment and supplies. That's a general overview. I can tell you that everybody's working really hard. We've built an incredible leadership team. Roxana Reyes with the architecture department. Thank you. She's just a fantastic team member and has worked right there with us. And so we're just truly grateful for all the work that's been done. It's really been a beautiful collaboration. And so with that, I'm going to let ACM Martin talk about TCO.

So when you say you're hoping to get occupancy license by Friday or the end of the week, does that mean you'll be able to open the following week or what is that?

If we can get the TCO by Friday, we will be able to transfer our custody staff out to that location next week. But we still don't have computers or phones or things like that out there. So there are a lot of things that have to happen. But at least once we have that, we can set move dates and we can set install dates. So that's going to be a big hurdle.

When would you anticipate people being moved in there as far as inmates and such?

It's premature for me to give you that, sir. There's just too many moving parts yet. But again, the first operation that we plan to be able to facilitate is the release of our inmates. And I expect to be able to do that by September 30th.

So on the TCO, the contractor is currently working with our codes inspector and the independent contractor we've hired to do some of the commissioning testing. So there's a couple poll tests they have to do on bolts for the building that was erected. They have to get a special jack and to be able to complete that testing on that. So that's been the delay on that, but they anticipate getting that completed this week, which should finalize the commissioning aspects of it to ensure we have a safe building to occupy, and then we'll be able to move forward from there.

Questions from my colleagues?

Director Knapp, thank you. At the end of September, we start taking releases. Can you talk a little bit more what that looks like? Are we prepared? Because I know right now the folks are being released from Vernon and Johnson County, and then we take them, and then they're at one of the patrol stations. So are we going to start taking all of the releases from Vernon and Johnson County?

That's my goal. I believe that we can facilitate their releases from our facility, which will enable us to better do warm handoffs with treatment providers. For those individuals who do not have a ride, we made a commitment to Northeast that there would not be pedestrian traffic out of this facility. So for those individuals who do not have a ride, someone picking them up, or a treatment van picking them up, We will either be taking them to, if they are going to shelter, we'll take them to shelter. If they are not, if they've got a place they're going to go, they just didn't have a ride, we're going to transport them to the patrol substation closest to their home base, so wherever that is. So if that's up north, center, whatever, whichever patrol station is closest to their, whatever support system they have.

Thank you. Councilman Robinson comes in.

Yeah. So just, I know you don't want to give a date, but when are we talking, what date can we expect this to be fully operational?

Well, I can say that it won't be operational before we have the medical contract and the medical contract needs 90 days to be operational after signature. It's not signed yet.

Why is that?

It's going back and forth between attorneys. It's a complicated contract. The medical care of our population is a, That's a major operation. So it's just been, it's moving with appropriate speed, consistent with my experience at Jackson County. It just takes this kind of time. There's a lot of fine-tuning that goes into a contract of that magnitude.

And you're the professionals, and I get it, and I don't mean to question your professionalism. I'm just curious, with the staffing and with the contracts, We've known that we were building this for over a year, year and a half, I think. Why wouldn't those be in the pipeline of timeframes? You know what I mean?

Well, sir, I think that they were. The RFPs for the medical contract predate me. You know, I joined the team on March 16th and the RFPs, for a multitude of services were due back in from the bidders, I think the week before I started. So Deputy Director Case had all of those moving. She really, really carried her Herculean load prior to the development of the team, and she stood that up independently and did an amazing job. So given the resources and the absence of a leadership team to support her, I really do think it was done incredibly well the consultants advised on that and this proceed all of the bids went out and proceeded according to their guidance consistent with the national standards specifically the National Commission on Correctional Health Care which is what we want to be compliant with and so again I really couldn't be happier with it this isn't something you want done fast you want it done well I agree I just I feel like

First, you know, the first priority was to get the building built. I get that. The second priority was to hire staff. And this is the first I've heard that the contract, we have 90 days until we can enact it. Even if we sign it today, we still can't enact anything for 90 days.

And, sir, it may be that they're available sooner, but they also now have to recruit, hire. We have to background check their personnel. That process takes longer than it used to. Our background requirements are more stringent than what the city has generally because of our access to criminal justice information systems through the Highway Patrol. And so every contractor, every volunteer, every provider has to go through another layer of background checking that is beyond what the city already does. So it's going to take more time, but that's how we make sure that our inmates stay safe.

And Mr. Chair, just to that point, Director Knapp, isn't it true that the municipal population is one that has a myriad of medical and mental complications? We've seen two deaths already in the new Jackson County Detention Facility. And if we rush this with not the proper medical care and the support system, we could be in a similar situation.

I'm not disagreeing with the rush. I'm arguing that I don't think that any of us have had a very good understanding of the process. The communication to us was we build it, we open it. And I mean, I get that there are complications in long term, but I would have liked to known that, you know, when the jail was built, you know, then we had staff it, and then we have to have a contract signed. That could be 90 days. Those are just, you know, we're the ones that allocate and put this thing together, and we should, that's just me. I just think we should have more information. Councilwoman Robinson.

Mr. Chair, thank you for your presentation. Did you say that there isn't a projected timeline for opening? Is that what I heard?

Our first benchmark is we believe that we can facilitate the release of our inmates out of this facility by the end of September, September 30th, to be able to take that off KCBD's plate. That's the first operational phase that we're going to be able to accomplish. with our anticipated staffing at that point in time. We won't have to have the medical team on site yet to be able to do that. So that's the first operational benchmark for us. And I believe that we'll make that one.

So that particular benchmark is just transitioning staff or those inmates from Vernon County When you say take it off their plate, my understanding is that's just them transitioning from Vernon County or Johnson County back to Kansas City. Is that what you're saying?

Right. Currently, inmates being released out of Johnson and Vernon County are transported to South Patrol, and South Patrol has to process them out. We're trying to take South Patrol out of that loop and take that responsibility off KCPD so that is happening in our own facility. where we can better provide for warm handoffs and planned releases and transition to service providers and temporary housing or whatever resource that the inmates have access to.

But that's not the primary function of the jail. So my question to you is, do we have a timeline? Did I hear you say that with all the moving pieces, we do not have a timeline in which the jail is open? Is that what I heard?

I can't commit to that at this time. No, ma'am.

Not yet. Okay. So firstly, let me say this. Deputy Director Case, hopefully that was a promotion that you received. But whatever the case, we want to say thank you for all of the work that you've done up until this point. We know that there was a lot of pressure put on you from many different directions. And I think it's really important for this body to recognize your efforts and to say thank you. Secondarily, in terms of the comments from the chair, we do need a process. So if someone could please you know, write the process down in terms of where we are, what we're going to do to get to opening date. I don't think that it's, there's no excuse for us not to have a benchmark on when the detention center is going to be open. That's unacceptable. And I know that you are new and this is not on you. This is on the city manager. That's our direct report. And there's no, there's no instance in which we shouldn't have a target date. So I will share that, I'm sharing that now with the city manager staff to please work with your team. At least, you know, we have a projected date and then you can communicate how we're progressing towards that projected date. But again, as governors of this organization, we really, really have to have that. Second, and then thirdly, You mentioned some national standards as it relates to opening and the emergency medical team that we have on that we need to procure, which I agree, we don't want to do any of this too quickly, right? We want to be informed. We want to know what's happening. And we want to be able to communicate to the greater systems, particularly KCPD, As to where we are with this project, right? So I'm concerned and continue to be concerned about the long term nature of this facility and that this facility might not be the best option for restorative justice. So my final question is for you to our new director. What are the national standards regarding restorative justice and does this facility fit? those national standards.

Thank you, Councilwoman. As I mentioned at the beginning, ACM Klein has requested a business meeting for September 3rd specific to answering all of those questions you just had and addressing that in a comprehensive manner. And I really believe that if we can get the business meeting for September 3rd, I believe that the presentation that you will see that day will answer a lot of questions. I believe that the project is ambitious and progressive and I think it's going to put Kansas City at the cutting edge of service delivery to this very vulnerable population. So I'm excited, I'm getting a little goose bumpy talking about that. I'm excited for us to be able to present that to you on September 3rd and I do believe that that will go a long way to answering the questions and we will have a much more comprehensive update on the temporary facility at that time. So I'm just asking for a little grace today because I do believe that a comprehensive presentation is coming that you'll find very intriguing.

Okay, thank you. And so, again, Mr. Chair, and this is not directed to anyone that's presenting before us today, not knowing those standards based off of what we know is challenging. It's a very, very hard pill to swallow as someone who is elected to serve the interests of the taxpayers. And so waiting until September is unfortunate. I ask a basic question as relates to Does this facility will this facility meet national standards as it relates to restorative justice? I don't think that that's something we should have to wait for and I am disappointed in our. Management staff that we don't have those questions answered. So again, thank you all for your hard work. 2 things. Can be true and that's you're working very, very hard to do these things and to implement these tasks. And I appreciate that. I recognize that at the same time we have to have more questions answered. Thank you.

Thank you, Councilman.

Councilman Robinson, I just want to say that I completely agree with you in the restorative justice aspect of this, and that's an integral part and not something that's negotiable. I will say that I've spent many meetings with Director Knapp and the deputy directors, as well as the consultants from Falcon Trainer and Multistudio, and they are building those pieces out. And I've seen the presentations, probably some of the presentations that you'll be seeing on September 3rd, I think you will be impressed. And so definitely understand why Director Knapp doesn't want to give a half presentation today. But I will say they have been committed to that part, and I hope that you'll know that. I'm staying on them on that piece as well. I want to second Councilwoman Robinson also to congratulate Deputy Director Case. She has been an army of one before this. Well, a sailor of one. A sailor of one. So kudos to you. We wouldn't be here without you, so absolutely need to be recognized.

Well, and I appreciate that, and I'm glad that you're bird-dogging that and spending time. I, too, would love that same opportunity. With all due respect, Councilman Duncan, you represent the 6th District. You're an in-district councilperson. I represent the 3rd District. I'm an in-district councilperson. The majority of the people that this population is the 3rd District. right and so if they're giving you we don't run a closed door operation this is a governmental operation it should be transparent so if they're presenting information to you that's great but we all deserve access to that information and so those presentations that were had because it could be could be shared this morning um and so i'll follow up but i do want to register a complaint that That's information that it should be brought before the entire body. And it shouldn't be just given to one council person. And so, and that's probably because you requested it and I'll do the same, but I'll leave it there. Thank you.

Thank you. With that, hey, thank you guys for giving us that presentation. We appreciate it. We know you're thrown in a lot of directions. So we do appreciate you coming here and giving us an update. And look forward to the September 3rd update.

Thank you. And we would like to thank all of you who have come out to the facility for the tour. A good portion of the council has been out. and we were truly grateful for their time. I think they found it very informative. And Councilwoman Robinson, I welcome you to come out again, or I'm sorry, to come out. We can be available at your convenience, and I think that would help a lot, probably, if you could see the facility in its current form and speak with our staff directly. Thank you.

Yes, and please make sure that all of the consultants that have been meeting are available to have those same meetings and the same presentations for multi-studio. So I'll be reaching out immediately to set that up first thing Monday morning. Thank you.

All right. Thank you guys very much. If there's no other business, we will...