Council - Special Meeting

Thank you. I'm presenting it from up here.

Thank you.

It doesn't really help the streets too much.

It looks like it's up here, but not on the screen.

It must have just happened when I did. There was only one cop on scene when I got there. I was like, oh boy, that looks ugly. Okay. Good morning. Good morning.

We appreciate you being here this morning. And so we're going to call the meeting to order. And if you would, if you'd join me in standing for the invocation and the Pledge of Allegiance. Lord, we're thankful for the day. We're thankful for the wisdom that is provided. And as we come together as a team here at the city of Nampa, that you would continue to guide and direct these deliberations. You'll continue to give us wisdom. Servants of the citizens, I'm deprived by the monies that are entrusted to us. Lord God, we give thanks for all the blessings in Jesus' name. Thank you very much. Roll call.

SCOG? Here. CINGULA? Here. BILLS? Here. REYNOLDS? I'll give him a minute. He is online. RODRIGUEZ? Here. GRIFFIN? Here. REYNOLDS?

When we can, right now we're at five. So potentially that will come. Tom, hold for a moment. I want to acknowledge Councilman Griffin and say congratulations on obtaining the Master's in Accounting and Tax and receiving that. Also, congratulations on the Juris Doctorate and looking forward to 40 days, 60 days, whatever it is that you're able to pass the bar. And so I just think those are two accomplishments like many in the room who have engineering degrees and other degrees and certs and so forth that we value education. We value the coming forward and the information. I mean, the learning curve you're on, we appreciate. So I just wanted to make sure that.

Exciting. Tom, you're up. Thank you. Council President, Council, thank you. Thank you for your support, and especially on Public Works Week. It's Public Works Week, and we have a picnic at the park today. If you're welcome to join us, it would be great to have you there. Thank you. It was a late night for the water department, if you haven't heard. They've had a major 12-inch line irrigation break. They wrapped it up at 5.30 this morning, so they're home resting right now, but it kind of leads into this presentation on the need for infrastructure. We've got a lot of old infrastructure, and this just shows that it was a... The cause of the break, we had a spike in one of our stations, which caused the pressure in the line to get up to 100, but it should be okay because you should be able to get to 125 PSI pretty easily. It's just a 50-year-old pipe. It just didn't make the test. It couldn't hold up. Council President, if I could real quick.

Yeah. In addition to the staff working, a 10-hour shift and then going back out and working late in the evening. We had three real individuals, real good individuals there that were there real late too. It was John, Crystal, and Clay Long. I had rolled in about 10.30, excited to see some election results and then heard. So instead, I went out, saw them, and Clay went and got the gentleman food and did a lot of good work there. And Crystal and John were assessing the whole situation. So There was a lot of leadership oversight too there last night, and I think they should be shouted out as well.

Thank you for saying that. It takes a team effort to do this, so yeah, thank you.

Yeah, thanks for noticing, John. Thank you, Crystal. Thank you, Clay. Appreciate stepping up and being there. Yeah, so great. Thank you very much.

Okay, so Council, so order of business, I'm gonna start out with the Public Works Admin Report, GIS, Craig Tarter will come up and talk about GIS, Crystal will come and talk about transportation and all of her services, and then I'll come back and close with the infrastructure report. So a department overview for the public works admin, provide leadership and development of public works infrastructure for Nampa's future, and provide professional service. We've got a great team, a very dedicated group to make sure that we take care of things. We've got a very lean team, but they do a lot. I'm very proud of them. I'm gonna go quickly through these slides so I can give time to the team for their presentations. Here's our org chart. You've got it in your packet. Creating economic opportunity, that's one of the things we try to do. Customer satisfaction, economic opportunity as far as public works in whole comes with a sewer infrastructure. That's what sewer infrastructure and economics follow each other. So we focus on that and that's some of the things that we focused in on that Purdom project. We pay attention to the budget, try to do as good as we can in that. Heather's goal, is to do a 1% variance in city budget to actual financials. And then safety of our people, like we just talked about, we're out there in difficult conditions. We're trying to reduce injury claims. And so trying to get that down. And then also road closures and emergency repairs. We're trying to reduce that. That's one of our goals as well. So recent achievements, we've done really good on grants on both water and transportation. Over $30 million used in 2026. We're very proud of the FEMA remapping of Indian Creek. So that's a group team effort between Daniel and Public Works. We've been working on that for over six years. We got that done to benefit over 980 properties and save them some costs on floodplain insurance. One of the things we really focus on in admin as well as educating people on water, especially with our reuse project. We've done a ton of work to get to this point, but we're not done. We're just constantly talking to people about reuse and the safety of it and how important it is. And it's very important this year with a lack of water to have 5,000 acre feet of water that we can put in our own system and that's a pretty big deal. And so we've just recently, we've connected with over a thousand students and that's a good thing to talk about reuse and all the water resources that we have. And then we've done some career fairs as well. So priorities, again, 1% operational variance. These are the same goals, 15% customer service, and then maintain quarterly meetings with traffic impacts through Nampa. You know, we have our little, we have our city. It's not a little city anymore, but we have highway districts. We have other cities adjacent to us and we all have projects going at the same time. We have ITD. So we work on meeting with them so we can try to coordinate detours and at least get people through all this construction. So that's another one of our goals. Just to close out, we're not asking for any additional personnel in and we didn't have any significant changes in our budget from last year. Any questions?

Any questions for Tom? I think we're good. Thank you. I'll be back. Thank you. Thank you. Yes, sir.

Morning, Council, Council President. My name is Craig Tarter. I'm the GIS manager for the GIS Division of Public Works. Before I go further into my presentation, I wanted to give some quick highlights of our budget for this year. Aside from some minor variance, our budget is relatively unchanged since last year. We're not seeking any new positions. With this in mind, my presentation is primarily informational, as this is the first year that GIS has been operating on our own dedicated budget. Prior to last year, GIS was organized underneath engineering. I'll try to move quickly to leave time for everybody else, but please stop me if you have questions along the way. GIS stands for Geographic Information System. It's a system of record, analysis, and engagement. GIS provides foundational data and services to the city staff and that the public rely upon daily. You can see our mission division on the screen, but to sum it up, we strive to help the city be as accurate, efficient, and timely as possible. This is also a good time to point out that the revenue for GIS comes through an allocation. We track the services provided to each department and charge them accordingly. The current allocation is set at 72% from Public Works, 22% from Development Services, and 6% from the General Fund. There are four main services GIS provides, addressing, data management, mapping, and GIS administration. We're the addressing and street naming authority for our impact area, and you've likely seen some of the street naming ordinances come through council. The bulk of our time is spent creating, updating, and managing data though. This is important because you can't create a map without data. As our library of content continues to grow and we integrate with other systems, we're spending more time managing content, functionality upgrades, and patches, and just trying to keep the system running. You'll notice a QR code on this slide and throughout my presentation. This will take you to our publicly available website that hosts most of our content. Like we've seen some of our content.

Excuse me, Craig. Yes. Quick question.

I think you put it back to the last slide, please. So I noticed that you have the software, Tyler, Nexkin, Cortera, ITPipe, Springbook. What is the cost to each of those apps that you're using, and could you make it into one to better the cost for the city?

Councilman Rodriguez, that's a good question. Currently there's no cost for GIS to integrate with these systems. It's a foundational resource for these systems to operate. Think of it like we're providing the data that NextGen, Tyler, and all these other systems are using. We provide some of the functionality to help with routing, asset information, things of that nature. So while there are some opportunities to maybe consolidate some of that, that's something that we're not looking at right at this moment.

Would it be cost effective to do that?

There could be some cost savings, but that takes a larger discussion with some other departments on what workflows we're looking to streamline and what the most appropriate action is to get there.

I thought we were phasing out Tyler.

This is the MUNIS portion of Tyler, the EPNL, the permitting licensing, the new code enforcement module, things like that. Okay, thank you. Yeah, not the HR system. What's that? Not the HR version of Tyler. Oh, okay.

Yeah, I was going to say that. A little different. Yep, yep. Thank you.

So some of our most popular content is our city council district viewer, as well as the land use and public hearing map. However, our most popular resource is our open data site. The site receives over 114 views per day with over 40,000 views per year. The open data site allows the public to download and interact with some of our most popular data. Currently, it's boundary information that people are most interested in, city limits, council districts, things of that nature. Planning and zoning data is also a hot commodity as well. We also help with a lot of internal dashboard creation to help with tracking assets, operational workflows, things of that nature. And then you've likely seen a number of story maps for high profile projects. These story maps have been a great resource to help the city engage with the public and understand what's going on, what the project purpose is, things of that nature. Here's our current org chart. We're working to fill a few vacancies, but there are no new positions this year. I would like to take a quick moment to point out that the GIS staff are the ones that make all the cool things that we do possible. GIS is merely a tool. It's the people behind it that actually use our creativity, the ingenuity to solve problems and come up with solutions to help the city be as efficient as possible. Our current goals focus on increasing the citizen satisfaction for city services and sustaining excellence in city government by providing quick turnaround on reviews and timely access to GIS information. We're on track to meet our goals this year. Recently, we migrated all our web content to a newer framework that provides a more capable foundation for our content moving forward. We're actively deploying a utility network for domestic and irrigation water that will provide some exciting capabilities for water staff in the field. We've successfully integrated with the storm drain inspection software to help them keep track of their inspections. And with support from street staff, we're ready to deploy a new publicly available chip seal tracking app this year. But most importantly, we supported daily operations throughout the city. Our FY27 goals are unchanged from 26. Our overall focus is on sustaining the current workflows in the services that we provide. As I mentioned before, there is some minor variance in our budget. However, it's relatively unchanged from the previous year. The one new item we are asking for this year is to fund our portion of the plot of replacement that Development Engineering and Building mentioned earlier. the current plotter or the large format printer is 12 years old and it's at the end of its useful life the plotter is primarily used for printing plan sets maps and occasionally to help with communication material for open houses yeah i think we've that's in motion yeah yeah While our FY27 budget is relatively unchanged, there will be some increases to our software licensing in FY28. We're also planning on a drone replacement in FY28. Our current drone is nearing end of life. GIS primarily uses the drone to capture new imagery for recent developments and capital projects. The data captured by the drone helps city staff streamline workflows and provide quick access to real-time condition information. Without the drone, staff would have to wait a year or more for updated regional imagery. Access to timely and accurate data enables the city to maintain lower overall costs by allowing staff to address issues more quickly, thereby minimizing unnecessary travel, reducing wear and tear on equipment, and using less fuel. Our drone is equipped differently than the drones used by the police department. So while there is an opportunity for the pilots to collaborate, the equipment needed for each use is different. Also, our drone has more technical requirements than the hobby or toy versions you can find at most retailers.

With that, I'll stand for any questions. What is your budget?

What is our budget? Yes. It's about 1.3 mil. How much? 1.3.

And a lot of it comes from different, within the departments, right?

Yes, yes, we're built upon an allocation.

How much do you give to our IT department?

I don't have that number off the top of my head. I can get that information for you.

Yeah. That's going to be one for finance to help because of the allocation. Right.

I was going to wonder about that. Right.

So yeah. 23,000. Yeah. Help us with that later. Exactly. I mean, I'll follow up an MOE now. Exactly. Great. Okay.

Yeah, and that is primarily just for hardware support, some of the services they provide for network, things of that nature.

I was going to say, if you have someone in-house that can do that and not have to go to IT, that's what I'm looking at.

Councilman Rodriguez, we do work closely with IT to collaborate on maximizing the limited resources both of us have to keep the systems up-to-date and functional.

So it's already in the making. Okay. No need to do that. Thank you.

Council President?

Yes.

Do you have in-house pilots for your drones, or do you hire outside pilots?

Councilwoman Skog, we have in-house pilots. I have two certified 107 pilots on my staff.

Final question for you, Craig, which the directive will come soon, but With the GIS system, you could put together a quadrant or multiple maps that show all the enclave areas within the boundaries of the city of Nampa.

Council President Bills, yes, we can. We can look at the different parcel information and look at who's enclaved, who's within city limits, as well as look at pending or future land use actions that may be on the docket. So we can help with any analysis that needs to happen with that.

Good presentation. Good morning, Crystal.

Good morning, Council President and Council Members. For the record, Crystal Craig, Director of Transportation. I'm going to, again, try and keep us on track. I've got four divisions to go through today. I ordered them in Crystal's version of order of complexity. So I'm going to start easy and then we'll get progressively harder for the more complicated budgets. Then I'll bring our Senior Director of Public Works back up, Tom, to talk about the projects at the end of this. So I'm going to start out with our airports. First, I want to give a huge shout out to Lindsey Johnson. She's right back here. She is our airport superintendent. She is phenomenal, a huge phenomenal asset to the city. And I'm very, very happy to have her as part of our team. Little bit of overview for the airport so nampa municipal airport is a general aviation airport that was established in 1928. The airport's a leading aviation resource in the treasure valley just recently I had the privilege of attending the airport Idaho airport managers association conference, and I think nampa got four different shout outs during that conference. So that was recognized throughout all of Idaho. And people are saying Nampa is really leading the way in innovation and doing it right. And we've got such a strong team ahead of us.

Lindsay, we appreciate your efforts.

Thank you. A little bit about the airport itself. It encompasses 249 acres. It's located what I'm going to call Southeast Nampa. It's just south of Garrity, west of Happy Valley. It's fantastic. roughly this orange box around here. We have 23 city-owned buildings, 145 private leases. We have a terminal building, a city-owned fuel island, a ton of infrastructure that I listed. A lot of people don't realize it, but Idaho has 75 public-use airports, and Nampa, along with 67 others, are general aviation use. The Nampa Municipal Airport generates $106 million in total economic output to the state of Idaho that is published by ITD Aeronautics. Again, little zoomed in version of this. The yellow box is that 249 acres that I spoke about before. On the west side of the airport, so the left side of the screen, I'm going to call it west. all of those red boxes are those city-owned hangers. On the east side, the green boxes are typically the land leases, so the private-owned hangers. You can see we've got a little bit of room to develop on here, and I'm gonna touch about that a little bit later in the presentation. Our current org chart, we have a lean but mighty airport division of four. Our airport superintendent, like I said, as well as an admin specialist, an ops lead, and an ops technician that do all of the maintenance on the airport. I'd also like to give a huge thank you to these five individuals who volunteer their time and service to our airport and the entire aviation community. This is our airport commission. They serve five year staggered terms. They give up their evenings once a month to come over and look at land lease and like language and policies. And it's a thankless job sometimes. So I really appreciate that they are here to give recommendations to the mayor and to the city council on the planning, development, operations, maintenance, and budgets of our airport. Some of our FY26 goals, we have always had the goals or our current year over year goal is to engage in the airport community at least 12 times. We accomplish this by having our monthly commission meetings, attending airport partner public events, and then supporting our airport users with news updates that we do virtually like as a newsletter. Excellence in city government, our goal is to increase our airport generated revenue by 5% annually. Well, we continue to work on that we don't always hit this goal every year, but it is a step in the right process to make our airport more self sustaining. And then our maintaining self safe and healthy community zero regulatory findings, we do continual inspections on pavement fencing, weed condition, and the city owned hangers to make sure we are in compliance with all of our regulations. Some of our achievements this last year for revenue, we brought on six new land leases, seven new land leases for new construction, and we had 35 city rental spaces filled. We received two FAA grants, one for construction of some new taxi lanes, one for relocation of our AWOS equipment. And then we are in the process of rezoning and annexing some airport owned property on the east side of the airport to get the comp plan updated as well as completing a return on investment for our city-owned hangars so that we can start doing some of the maintenance on those hangars and move forward with that. Our priorities for 27 are very, very similar to our priorities for 26. We want to continue working through that deferred maintenance list from that ROI that I talked about just a moment ago. We also, again, want to increase our annual budget or our airport generated revenue by 5%. We're looking at potential new development for the airport. There's a long waiting list to get into our airport because it is just so darn good. and then replacing some of our aging equipment. I think deferred maintenance is a holistic conversation that we're gonna have throughout all of my divisions. Part of that is we're replacing one of the trucks that is end of life. A couple of airport events in 27 that I want to specifically highlight for your guys' information. send out calendar invites. We'd love to see everybody there. The first one on the right is the annual Warbird Roundup. It is in August of 2027 this year. This event originally was around 5,000 people. It's now doubled to 10,000 people and it's spread over a two-day event. It's amazing. They bring in a bunch of different warbirds from all over. There's a huge passion in aviation and it really generates a lot of interest and revenue for the airport. Also in 2027, this will be the first time it's ever happened, but the 99s are an annual air race classic. They go, it's 60 teams that create a cross country competition and they have chosen Nampa to be the terminus in 2027, which is really, really amazing. It also aligns pretty closely our 100-year anniversary is coming up next in 2028. So we're really excited to host this huge event. It should bring thousands of people to Nampa using our local vendors and filling up the hotels and just, again, creating that interest in the aviation industry. So we're very excited that we were chosen for that. Little bit about some of our city owned buildings our terminal is nearing or sure at end of life, so we have been evaluating the existing space and identifying the future needs we've been evaluating the cost of remodels. remodeling it or new and then identifying some form of Roi on what the future actions are going to be in conjunction with that we're also looking at our administrative office to make sure that it has the correct space needs and identifying the future needs for that. Again, coming up in 2027, I said one of our goals is to increase airport-generated revenue by 5%. This is one of the ways that we do that. Every year, we increase our rental rates by at least the annual CPI. What we're projecting for 2027 for our land leases, which is those private-owned hangers on our land, is to raise by the CPI per their agreement and their lease. This year is showing a 2.7% increase Over the last five years, we've ranged from 1.7 to about 8% for land leases, depending upon what the CPI is. Our proposed rental increase for our city-owned hangars is 4.9%. This keeps us within market, so that's our proposed increase for that. Again, over the five years, the highest increase that we have seen on those is 30% in 2024. So a question, Crystal.

On the actual rental rates of the city-owned hangars, you have a waiting list, right? So we need to take that rental rate up a little further.

Council President, thank you for that recommendation. We do have a waiting list for the record. It's around two to three years long for our city-owned hangars. That 4.9% keeps us within line of everybody else. So everybody else likely has similar waiting lists. We do have an obligation for the FAA that we charge a reasonable rate that is similar to other markets. So while we do have some discretion on what that means, we do need to make sure that we comply with whatever our rate increase. But if the will of council is to see a higher than 4.9%, we, staff is happy to do that in another direction. And we will take a look at that and potentially come back with a public hearing if it's over that 5% threshold.

Well, I look at it from the standpoint, we need to remodel the administrative office, possibly add onto it a little bit. We need to be able to move forward on improvements to the terminal building. So there's costs and expenses that we're expected to put out and do. And at the same time, we have full rentals as far as hangers are concerned and waiting lists that, so from a market point of view and whether it's allowed by the constraints of FAA, but if it is, we need to be able to take our rates on up and generate some revenue to help offset the needs of the airport that's just good operation in my mind. And so if we're not constrained or within the constraints, as you just mentioned, we need to do that forward in my mind. And certainly council can weigh in on that suggestion, but I think we've been under the, from a rate point of view, I think we've been low and There may be others who are out there the same way. But we have obligations, and we're continuing to try to fund. And I think we've got to take some of that up in order to help accomplish what we need to get done. Anybody else have comments? No, you first.

So is there any, to expand to the administrative offices, is there, could you come into, go into the MAF building and rent the space from them?

Councilman Roderick.

Okay, never mind.

Okay, on the rental rates themselves, when we increase it by the 4.9%, are we the highest in the valley or in the region in terms of rental rates after the fact, or are we going to still be fourth or fifth in line in terms of rental rates?

Council President, Councilman Griffin, it keeps us what I'm gonna say in line with market. It's really hard to compare us to like Boise and Caldwell because not everybody owns city-owned hangers, not everybody has T-hangers, not everybody has tie-downs at the same rate. So it's not an apples to apples and we charge different rates depending upon where they're parking their plane, so to speak. So it keeps us in market to other airports of our size with similar amenities.

I would concur with what councilman bills is stating. I'd like the city of Nampa to be on the higher tier of that sliding scale. If you would, uh, if the, if the wait list is two to three years long, surely some people are going to fall off and surely that wait list will still be a year to two years long. So I think it just, we can't, we've got to be able to create as much revenue for the city as we can. especially for maybe all these folks live in napa and that's good and well but i think there we have a lot of resources that people have gotten a bargain rate on for a long time in multiple departments so i'd like to see that increased as well thank you for that feedback we will come back to council at a later date uh in 27 when the budget is there with the increases recommended thank you

A budget summary and all of my budget summary on the operations. I took out the staff costs. So this is just like pure operational budget. We're not asking for any additional personnel. You can see my budget stayed relatively the same. Some proposed budget notes, which may help a little bit on the airport generated revenues. So the operation salary benefits expenses are all covered by the airport generated revenue. So in essence, the airport is self-sustaining. Where we get supplemental help from general gov and other things are capital expenditures so only 82,000 ish of. Our capital expenditures are paid for by our airport generated revenues so while we are operationally self sustaining like we could potentially reduce the burden in that way. The airport fund balance as of the beginning of the last fiscal year or end of last fiscal year was just over 3,750,000 of that was the general fund balance that's been set aside for the terminal. So just wanted to share some of those numbers. And you can kind of see the breakdown in our land leases versus our city rentals and what those come. So our city rentals are already the big bulk of our revenue generated for the airport as compared to our land leases, which are those privately owned hangers.

So on this next wave of land lease, are we able to take those rates up to help cover our cost of improvements of putting in taxiways and so forth? Kind of stair-step that.

Councilman Bills, the land lease contracts say that we will increase them annually by the CPI. So this next CPI increase is 2.7. If we were going to do something in addition to that, I think it would probably have to come to public hearing or be an amendment to their contracts.

Yeah, what I'm looking at is if we're going to extend... taxiways and create more sites to be able to build hangars, it may be that we need to establish that under the current costs of putting in those improvements and some of those sites may need to start at a step up from the existing is what I'm suggesting.

You read my presentation.

Say again?

Looks like you read my presentation. Looking ahead, yes, we do see future developments in the next five years. In that southwest corner we see a a potential for four different land leases in that central area at least 10 and on the east area at least 10 as well. These will all be at the highest market rate that we're doing right now. So all of those new contracts will be with the new current higher rate than the ones that they started with.

Excellent.

Illusion, I like it. With that, I will stand for questions on airport.

Council, any questions for Crystal at the moment?

President, Council. Crystal, I remember there was some hangers that needed to be torn down. Has that happened?

Council President, Councilwoman Scogg, it has not yet. We will be coming forward to Council with the recommendation and the next steps to sell those two city-owned hangers that are end-of-life and don't show a good ROI for even rehabbing.

All right, thank you.

We'll take official action soon.

Okay.

But it's moving through the process.

Thank you. All right, next, putting on my fleet hat for a moment. I would like to give a shout out to my superintendent here, Doug Adams. He is also a phenomenal asset. When I first started here at the city almost five years ago, Doug operates at such a high level for superintendent, a lot of people assumed he was a director. So he is just that darn good and I really appreciate him.

Doug, we do appreciate the efforts and we know at times it's frustrating, but you and your group, confirming Crystal's comments.

Thank you for the love for my staff. I'm pretty proud of them if you can't tell.

I just won't go out and hug everybody. It's okay. It doesn't mean I'm not thinking of it in spirit form.

The fleet services maintain city assets efficiently and safely to ensure all city services meet the citizens' expectations. The goal of fleet is really to lead the municipal fleet management and set the standard for What others are measured against and I think we are absolutely doing that there are multiple different agencies that look to Nampa. To say what are we doing, how are we doing it, can you maintain our fleets we get requests, all the time, because our staff is so far and above the rest of everybody else and. it's because of the leadership and the hard working individuals that are there. This is our current org chart we have 12 fts. In 2026, our goals were to maintain an average fleet of critical vehicle age of less than 10 years for light and medium duty vehicles, a preventative maintenance completion date of 75% earlier on time and have zero instances of emergency fuel below 50%. Some of our achievements this last year, probably our biggest crowning jewel here with the help of the facilities department, they've been really phenomenal, is our fleet building finally. It is at 75% design right now. It's moving quickly to 100% design. This new fleet building will take our building to about 21,000 square feet plus an additional 2,000 mezzanine on top of it. It'll give us six heavy bays where we only currently have two. It'll give us seven light duty bays where we currently only have five. plus a welding and fabrication bay. So our guys are so sardined in that current building that they're at capacity and they're just tripping over each other. So this new building is really gonna streamline and improve operations and give us some opportunities for insourcing. At emergency fuel capabilities that I spoke about before is we have two tanks, two 5,000 gallon tanks, one for gasoline and one for diesel, as well as two 900 gallon diesel fuel trailers shown right here. Our priorities first priority is to complete that fleet building our team is very, very excited once they see dirt start turning over there. continue the inventory tracking and maybe integrate integrate a barcoding system for parts inventory. We talked about in sourcing before that is for the new fleet building when we have additional capacity, we could potentially hire some additional staff. and fulfill some of the requests from the outside agencies for us to maintain their fleet. as an opportunity for fleet to actually provide income to the city. And then training. So begin some development of internal technician training programs as they get more and more complex. We manage a very diverse fleet all the way down from a push mower and things like that up to a sweeper and a large tractor trailer, as well as all of the fire trucks. Fleet budget, no additional personnel here. Again, you can see my operations budget did not change very much, and we have no additional capital requests in 27. Very, very level here. With that, I'll stand for questions on fleet.

President, council. Yes. Crystal, I spoke with Doug last week.

The way that the fleet... gets their funding is by charging for their services to each of the departments that have vehicles. The only way for them to get more funding is to charge more for their repairs to the departments. So could it be done? Yes. It would have to be a discussion to see with Doug what that rate should be and what it could look like, but they don't have any other internal sources other than the charges they send out to, and their biggest users are of course, police and parks. and so they would bear the brunt of anything like that.

Okay, so it would be kind of a catch-22 situation for an increase of salary, I guess, right? Yes, correct. Yes, yeah.

So there's a balance in what we're doing and what directors are doing as far as balancing out across the board.

Well, okay, I have a follow-up then. So what is it, is there a...

many have we how many employees have we lost due to pay and salary benefits um council president councilman rodriguez doug can speak more to this but we don't have a huge turnover problem if i'm being honest in fleet i think that is because of the management style and how they work there they're a really good tight-knit crew they're here to serve a community and they love that doug is also an exceptional advocate for his employees and titling and looking at internal equity where appropriate and where possible. So he really advocates, and we make intermediate small adjustments throughout the year with the help of HR and Chris Ocker to do some wage analysis.

So their funding is based on vehicles repairing and getting it done, and there's always an issue with that, I guess, right? So it doesn't increase or lower. It doesn't increase or decrease the amount of funding coming in based on the vehicles being fixed.

I'm not 100% sure I understand the question.

The more the vehicles need fixed, the more money, more revenue. The less vehicles need fixed, the less revenue.

Council President, Council, sorry, Doug Adams, Fleet Service Superintendent. The way we work is we have a fixed number of labor hours. My technicians can fill eight hours a day. It doesn't matter how many cars they do in that day. Where the variable comes in are the parts that we charge out. a markup matrix for parts. So the variable is within parts. So if somebody spends all day on, let's say, a brake job, well, they only bill the eight hours. Or if they do 10 cars in that same day, they still only bill eight hours because it's a real-time model. The only potential for additional income outside of the upward pressure on other divisions would be insourcing from outside agencies. Currently, we insource the Naval Fire District. We could insource from City of Meridian or City of Caldwell. That could potentially be revenues outside of city funds that we could use for operational needs.

But would you have the personnel to put a heavier load on that?

Currently today, no. We'd need to expand staff to do that.

Thank you.

Doug, thank you.

Moving on to traffic. Again, huge shout out to my leaders here in the traffic division. Traffic is different than any of the other divisions in the fact that we've got an engineering manager, Matt Ricks, on top of that. Matt is like the signal whisperer for the city. He does such a phenomenal job of managing and tweaking and understanding how adding one second of timing difference to this signal will affect this signal six blocks over. It takes a very special brain to be able to accomplish that. And he absolutely has it. Also co-managing here over here is our superintendent of traffic, which is Ken Nutt. Ken's been with the department for 15, 20 years. He's a huge, huge asset. He manages a highly technical group of skilled people here with electricians, as well as signs and striping. And I really appreciate all their dedication.

Well, we as those who drive on the traffic side, we appreciate the dedication as well. Thank you.

Traffic is a very forward-facing or public-facing division for us, both traffic and streets. They tend to get interchanged. They are separate divisions. Streets maintains the roads. Traffic maintains the things beside the road, if you will. Their mission statement is to provide a safe operation of the multimodal public transportation system to the general traveling public within and throughout our city. Our goal of improving movement in and through Nampa is almost single-handedly done through this division right here. They have the highest impact on it. City Council Chambers, Some of the map assets that are managed it's over $35 million they have over 15,000 traffic signs. City Council Chambers, 10 of those signalized crosswalk systems that are php 78 signalized intersections battery backups we have over 100 rectangular rapid flashing beacons those are the blinky lights at the crosswalks. 63 school zone flasher signs, almost 7,000 streetlights, 20 signal CCTV cameras, and then we also support the real-time crime center with 150 of their cameras as well. They have a huge load for what they're doing with just a staff of 18 FTEs. We do currently have two vacancies in this. I stated before that this is a very technical and a very niche type of thing. We have electricians that are highly competitive and sought after to get. In fact, just last night, we had two candidates or two of our staff just graduated CWI with their electrical license. So that's a four year endeavor for them to be able to do that. So we're really, really proud to be able to grow our people up and keep them interested in serving our community. Some of the goals in FY26, we always have a zero death goal here on the city roadway network. Currently, we report the data a year behind because it takes some time to process it. There were six fatalities in 2025. One was an impaired driver related. Our goal is to upgrade two unimproved crosswalks annually. We've met and exceeded that goal this year. We have done three crosswalks or have on the docket to do three, one at Dewey and Maple, one at Lone Star and North Park. And then we were able to get some CBPG funding to do Roosevelt and Stanley Creek as well. And then improving movement in and through Nampa. Like I said before, this division has the highest impact on the citywide goal. We want to reduce travel time. I called it on the targeted public roadway by 10%. I mean, it's just the bigger roads. Library Square is our goal for this one. Not only is Matt making weekly signal timing during construction, but he has plans to completely redo the signal timing downtown around there after construction, and then reducing travel time for one minor arterial by 10%. The targeted roadways for this is 16th Avenue through second and third. as well as adding one additional intersection to our TMC so we can continue growing that this year. It was Idaho Center and Birch right by CWI.

Crystal, a real pause. How are we doing Library Square redo schedule-wise? We're on track?

Yeah, Councilman Bills, this project is actually going very, very well. I'm very impressed with how the contractor is doing it. Very rarely have I driven by and not seen multiple crews working. even in the rain. It's a very public roadway, as you know. I think that they're doing a good job of reaching out and going to the local businesses to support them for lunch. They're doing extra cleaning in front of the businesses to make sure that we're promoting people being able to get to them. They've run a tight ship and they're doing a really good job and they're on track.

Thank you.

I just want to give some citizen interactions. I told you this is a very public facing division. Of the, I'm going to call them citizen comments that we get throughout the year, about 36% of them are people are concerned with congestion, specifically targeted at growth, about 34%. talk about the signals not properly working or the signal timing. A lot of this is like detection issues, which we really appreciate the citizens letting us know. Sometimes a camera just needs tweaked a little bit or needs cleaned, or the sun glare will hit it just right and it doesn't pick up cars. But apparently a lot of people also can do Matt's job very, very well. So we have some great candidates for employment for our two vacancies here in traffic. And then about 30% are street light, pedestrian push buttons, things like that. So like other things.

I appreciate that because I've been there.

We have a huge project going through for a new trail head at Matthew Peltzer where we're doing a working with Mr. Peltzer's wife to work on a trail signage for that. We've replaced the welcome to Nampa signage and then installed three always stops. The street light section has updated over almost 400 street lights to LED features. They've completed all of their maintenance in the zones, as well as completed the downtown Nampa LED lighting conversion, which was a heavy, heavy lift, but really improved our downtown area. And then they've continued to replace overhead street lighting and eight signalized intersections. Our signal side, so going to more, oh, question?

No, I was just going to say, I appreciate that Nampa's staying with more of a white, white, on the street light change outs versus the blue light. And I think that's a real positive. So.

Thank you.

Just to, I was going to make a similar comment. Those were faulty light bulbs, correct? We didn't order purple lights. It's because the systems and were they able to warranty or replace those? Or was that an expense to the city?

Yes, they warrantied them.

Cause they truly are the worst. So I appreciate the white whites as well.

White, white is our standard. And anytime something is out of warranty, we absolutely go back so we don't have to pay for it again. on the signal side so shifting over to the electronic side of it we create or i talked about the new signal timing plans around library square those three intersections actually that we've added to the tmc i talked about idaho center birch middleton and caldwell and then franklin and i-84 have been added and then we updated two signalized intersections with new battery backup systems so for some reason the power goes out these signals can still be operating it's one step towards emergency preparedness for the city Our traffic management center, we're currently staffing two days per week. We've been collecting data on travel time and corridors and vehicle delay at intersections that helps us target which ones we need to go back and re-time and things like that. Responding to events like interstate closures, emergency road closures, as well as events at CWI for signal timing plans. And then the new innovation this year, which I'm very excited about, is collecting some data on red light running. What that looks like, here's an example intersection. You can see the boxes around the vehicles where the cars are actually getting detected. In the center right-ish side of this picture, you see those two circles. Those are their actual detections that will let us know when somebody goes over that and runs the red light. we're able to take this data and provide a monthly report to our PD that says like, hey, here's the number of cars and the time of day that we are seeing the highest amount of red light runners at these intersections so that they can do targeted enforcement throughout the city. It's enabling them to, use their resources highest bang for the buck so far. I will say we're still massaging this data. Sometimes it'll pick up somebody turning right on red as a red light runner. And so we're continually improving that as we're going along to say like which ones are actually doing it, what time of day is the most egregious. So if you're gonna run red lights in Nampa, don't do it at the same time as everyone else, because chances are higher that we're gonna be there knowing.

Council President, if I could. Just always give us a heads up if there's a special.

Yeah. Just stay away from the Fort Idaho Center tonight at graduation. Council President, if I could follow up. Just to confirm, I know that we know up here, but for the public's sake, we do not mail out tickets. We do not do any enforcement without an officer actually seeing the occurrence happen, and then they cite them there and then, correct?

Thank you for that clarification, Councilman Griffin. You are 100% correct. We do not have red light running cameras in that capacity. This is detection-based. for data so that we can better mobilize our forces. People don't actually get tickets from our cameras like this.

Thank you. But it shows the intersections that are acutely abused or problems, and that's what's great that we're doing this. Correct. Yeah.

Our traffic division has a really collaborative relationship with our PD. through the TMC, through signals, through emergency management and closures and stuff like that. So I really appreciate the collaboration that happens between those two divisions. Budget summary. Again, no personnel. You see a theme. I put our operations budget. You can see a slight increase in there, but mostly we held it about the same and then about 500 in capital requests this year. That.

Question. Yes. so i know that we're using hawks and some of those are federally funded right or they're funded by another source and when you and i were together touring district five you showed me the other less cost for the traffic signal for pedestrians like for example um uh roosevelt elementary school crossing are we able to use more of those to save for safety, but to save cost to the city. And should we transition to those?

Council President, Councilman Rodriguez. So what you're referring to at Stanley Creek and Roosevelt is an RFB. So in essence, it's the blinky light that somebody can come push the button and it just blinks. It doesn't actually stop traffic. The hawk signals, like the one in front of IH2C, there's one on 12th by the Nampa High School. We have a current grant with VRT to install one at around 16th and 6th. So we don't get a lot of federal grants for those, but when we put those in, it is based on metrics. So the hawks are for higher speed roads, wider roadways and things like that, that actually require somebody to stop traffic. Similar to there's one on 11th, even that has a pedestrian refuge island where they will go to the center, push another button and be able to go over type of thing. The RFBs are for lower volume, lower speed, shorter crossing distance. So we utilize them where appropriate. We do have a prioritized list of all the intersections that need improved. We look at that and then have a metric, again, based on how many we can do versus our budget. So sometimes we will install one hawk. Sometimes we will get to install three RRFBs. It just depends where it is on the list.

Council President. Okay, thank you. She cracked the door open, so I'm going to... Let's enter with a few questions. 16th and 6th, is that the project that we received funds for three years ago?

The 16th and 6th is a project where we are partnering with Valley Regional Transit. They allocated some funds for us and it's like a pay as you go type of thing. We're currently trying to finalize design or get through the environmental process. We are not through environmental yet to move into construction.

So just in action on VRT, that may go away.

The rules of the grant, as I understand them so far, is we have to be, the grant is to fund a facility on one of their routes. If the city of Nampa chooses not to fund or there is not a route on that, we would not be eligible to continue with that grant and may have to repay it. for what we've paid so far.

Council President, follow up, please.

So we'll need some data on that, if you will. If you'll follow back, like to know what we've expended or what we're on the hook for at the moment.

I think to date it's around the like 50 to 70,000 mark is what we've expended.

And they've reimbursed that 50 to 70,000 up to this point? Yes. Okay. This is the 500 and some odd thousand dollars that they, gifted us, you could say two and a half years ago, correct? When we first came on council.

This funding is coming from the federal transit authority or administration FTA. I don't know what the A stands for. I'm sorry. And it is, the funding is eligible through that. So they have, we don't have access to that because we aren't a transit authority, so to speak. So BRT allocated those funds to us as part of the grant.

as long as it is being used for a site on their route.

Last follow-up, Crystal, and you can use whatever quote you would like to. With these projects that we're getting, in my opinion, a carrot strung along in front of our faces for three years, or is that worth it to us? Those federal funds that we're expensing a million dollars nearly a year for a program to get 500,000 that we still haven't seen fruition of almost three years later.

So in full disclosure, this is the first FTA grant that I have ever completed, administered. I've only done federal highways type grants. I have a lot of federal experience, but one fed is not the same type of fed. We have been struggling to get through the environmental process to continue moving forward. So I, it would be, it is going to make changes. It is council's discretion on what grants we apply for and what grants we accept.

Juice worth the squeeze?

That is council's decision to make.

Thank you.

You've got all these one-liners that are ready to go.

One more question for you. So is it possible that we could turn around the impact fees and pay for those hogs ourselves? Because it's a new development. Well, determining the definition of new development. Would it be possible for us to do that?

I'm going to defer that to our impact fee administrator.

I know what he's going to say.

The Daniel Badger City Engineer. The impact fees would not be able to pay for that. That's not on our impact fee list. It's not a capacity-related issue there. There's no new growth in that area that would justify being able to utilize impact fee funds for that, even if it were on the list. Thanks, Daniel.

Please, Daniel. Thank you. Through cold water on your idea.

I will note, though, that through the TIS process, if something is required for unimproved crossing of some sort, that is also analyzed. So while it's not impact feed, like it is looked at. All right. Essence of time. Moving on to streets. Excellent. I have to give a shout out to my crack team over here, even though they're all abandoning me through retirement, which is really rude. Donald Barr is our street superintendent. He's been here for 19 years. I think he's got like two drive to works and a wake up or something is how he likes to say it to me, left in him. So he's retiring. His retirement party will be at the end of June. So I invite everybody to come to that. It should be on your calendars already. Jeff Kazma, our assistant superintendent, has been here quite a while as well. He also very, very recently retired. His last day is this week, next week, end of this month. So we've lost two out of our three leadership tripods here. But Steve Overweg, holding strong. So I appreciate him as well. He's our newest street assistant superintendent. But these three guys manage a huge workload and again, a very, very public facing division for the city of Nampa. Department overview. I said before, streets and traffic are different entities. The streets maintain the streets. So in the roads, the black stuff and the gray stuff right beside it, so to speak. The street division is a division of maintenance professionals committed to maintain and provide safe, efficient, and affordable city streets and commercial corridors with an emphasis on exceptional customer service. And I sure think that they provide that exceptional customer service. We have 28 full-time FTEs and then depending upon the time of year, sometime between like 10 and 20 temp employees as we ramp up for chip seal season. which starts in five days, six days, something like that. It's coming, it's coming, guys. A little bit of their overview. We have almost 1,020 lane miles, 5,400 catch basins, 1,800 sand and grease traps, 2,500-ish ponds, 180 miles of stormwater line, 2,800 manholes, 52,000 gallons of brine produced in-house. They go through 12,000 tons of chip seal, 3,600 tons of salt, and they have 77 pieces of equipment in their fleet. They're huge. The streets accomplishments. They finished executing the streets fleet master plan by constructing and expanding the streets addition. This also went very, very well. We'll be opening ahead of schedule. It should be complete by the end of this month, but our official, like, soft opening for it will be Don's retirement. So if you wanna come see it, like come out, have a burger with us, say goodbye to Don and see our expanded street division. They were able to produce 52,000 gallons of brine, as I said before, which saved the city about $78,000. They trained 14 new employees with in-house CDL programs, saving the city about $84,000. Then they hosted the city of Nampa's fourth annual heavy equipment rodeo, which I just presented on Monday night, two days ago, very recently. Um, this last week, I will also give these guys a shout out. We went to the, the first chip seal conference put on here in Idaho. I think city of Nampa got about 15 different shout outs during that chip seal conference from entities across Idaho and then Eastern Oregon and Eastern Washington. They continually look to Nampa for innovative ideas saying like, hey, what's Nampa doing? What do you guys think of this? They want to know what our opinion is. And it's because we have such a good group of professionals here that know how to do their job. we've got a good group. Some of our goals, inspect to maintain 100% of our stormwater assets. We are currently meeting that goal. We want no more than 50% of SALT budget spent on outside brine purchases. We are currently also meeting that goal and then completing our expanded chip seal program, which kicks off real, real soon, as I said. Our current goal is about 73 or 7.3 million square feet. And then I will talk about this a little bit later, but we wanna maintain a pavement condition index of about 60% on our roadways. Our current one for the city, if I'm gonna throw a number out, average is around a 72%. That is artificially inflated because it includes all of the outside, roads that we just annexed from the highway districts. They have to give them to us in really good condition, as well as all of like the new developments that are brand new roads. If you look at like our downtown core, like the more proper Nampa, our PCI is sitting around the 61%. City Council Chambers, Another forward or outward facing. City Council Chambers, group here, so I wanted to include some of the citizen comments from the surveys, all of them talked about are the bulk of them talked about roadway condition, improve the roads fix the potholes. City Council Chambers, fix cherry lane the worst in the valley, you know you're in napa because the streets are bumpy. City Council Chambers, The heights on the streets are too thick the roads are awful it needs work washboards my personal favorite is by a level. We do have a level for the record, as you can see right here. We understand the streets are rutted and washboarded. Our pavement condition, as you can see from these pictures, I'm not gonna sugarcoat this, I'm gonna be very candid, right? While our PCI is 61%-ish, like our roads are failing. We have some of our roadways with a PCI of nine. It's almost like It's not good guys to outsource rebuilding a half a mile of roadway. It's about one and a half to two and a half million dollars. If we were able to do it in house, it would be about half the cost of 800,000. This is year three of stepping into that plan of building our own construction crew. So I'm going to talk a little bit about the equipment that we purchased, how we're training our current guys. You will see in our current equipment asks it's another round of equipment to continue moving towards this and taking the bites out of the apple so in like another two years we'll be able to have a an in house construction crew that can start chipping away at some of this. For lower cost. I would like to put a caveat. They will not be able to do roads, the big main arterial roads. Those ones will still need to be contracted out. Those are two bigger projects. But if you're looking at like a block by block in the residential and the smaller, lower volume roads, these are the ones that we want to target by doing in-house and then use our city funds to do the bigger roads.

Council President. In regard to the pavement condition areas, I know you and John are working very closely on trying to coordinate what areas are needing full utility repair at the same time. When you do a pavement replacement, are you shutting down that full road or are you just doing a half stretch and letting traffic flow on the other half? Or what is the process look like?

Council President, Councilman Griffin, it could be both if I'm being honest. We try and not do full closures where possible. John and I's group absolutely collaborate. So we don't wanna rip up a road with a subpar pipe below it. We wanna replace the pipe and do like a one dig policy. That's why you've seen a couple of things in the amendments come through where I'm advancing a project or John is delaying a project so that our projects can realign together. It also gives us an opportunity to share the costs because the enterprise funds can pay for the road above the trench, right? And then I can come and pay for the road, the rest of the road, so to speak, with the highway distribution account money and things like that where I get my funding sources from. Whenever we do a full road rebuild, one of our big problems is it triggers a federal ADA law that says we have to upgrade the ADA ramps through that an ADA ramp costs about $6,000 on average. So if you're looking at a city block, that's 300 feet long to do 300 feet of new payments, say it's a hundred thousand dollars. And then you've got eight ramps on either side. On top of that, it's $6,000 a pop. It drastically increases the cost of the project and what we can do. So we're navigating through how to do that and how to balance that.

Well, I think the, the one dig initiative is, a great focus and I appreciate you even last night, we talked about it. So wherever we can do that in the 50 year old pipeline sections, the pavement needs replaced. Let's be sure not to dig unless we're going to do it all and not have to go back in six months, a year, five years later. Thank you.

Here's some pictures of the street division at work. You can see with the equipment that they have, they're able to do large-scale patches, which is our first step towards paving, right? You don't want to just do a pothole. You want to progressively work up. But this is some of the equipment that we've received over the last two years and the new personnel that we've received. So you can see they're starting to train on this equipment. They're getting better. They're honing their skills so that we can start doing that paving crew. budget proposal, we've got two replacements of street sweepers for about 850,000, replacing a farm tractor for about 130,000, that purchase of a new steel drum asphalt roller that's for the new construction crew at 275, and then two new F-550 pickups that will be both for the new construction crew and for what their current is. We're kind of underutilized, or we don't have enough pickups to transport all of our staff, especially during the chip CL seasons and things like that. So we tend to borrow from fleet on the, the trucks and vehicles that are going to go to auction and just hope that they keep working throughout the season, which is not a best practice. Like we want to maintain a good fleet here. Again, in my essence of candor, I shared this last year, the message is still true. So I need to talk very candidly about our heavy equipment operators and the wages and the struggles that we are having to keep them. If you compare us to all of the other agents, well, not all of them, but a few of the other agencies in the Treasure Valley that do very comparable work, we are asking our staff to do more, maintain more lane miles than any of the other agencies around. So you can see right here, ACHD, Their people maintain around 38 Lane miles per person, Nampa Highway District, who's our closest highway district and the largest one here, they only have to maintain around like 18, 19 miles per person. We are asking our people to maintain 45 miles per person. And I will say like, if you compare our lane miles to like Nampa Highway District's lane miles, ours are more complicated. We have curb, we have gutter, we have poor pavement condition, we have utilities in the roadway. This is not a rural cross section with a drainage swale on the side. So we're asking our people, to maintain more and have more complicated roadways.

So, Crystal, we're going to change it. Going through it last night, so what we need is bided, et cetera, but within the budget part, we just need confirmation where we're going to go to the target. So we need to talk and we'll work with finance, but... what you've laid out is appreciated and it shows that we're under where we should be. And we're asking people to work where we're training them, they're going elsewhere. And so council, I believe has an appetite to take care of things and move up forward.

Okay. Would you like me to skip the wage data slides or put them?

Okay. I know we pay the Napa highway district, uh, from taxes that the city does and we don't get the benefit from them. Is there a way that we could lodge what we think they should get? I want to keep that money here in NAMP, in other words, and use it for better roads and streets. I'm talking about taxes that they impose.

Councilman Bills, Councilman Rodriguez. So the Nampa Highway District collects the road and bridge levy, and then allocates a portion of that to us. And it's a fair proportion in my mind. They also take a portion of what they keep and they partner. We focus on partnership projects. So they prioritize projects that NAMP has prioritized. An example is the Robinson and Greenhurst overpass. We're splitting that one 50-50. Another example is Northside and Cherry. We split the cost of that one 50-50 almost. the you stick widening. So they're also allocating some of their projects to benefit our citizens. It's all of our citizens right in Canyon County on our roads might go together, but they are allocating our proportionate share to us.

Okay. Thank you.

All right. Skipping over, I guess the retention and the cost stuff.

Your information is very good. Okay. Okay, it's at home. We're going to solve it.

Thank you.

And so budget summary is we just got to have one more info from you. Sit down. And so we're working with finance where we're pulling monies, where we're rearranging and getting pretty dialed as to direction.

I'd like to hear it and I appreciate council support. So thank you.

Council President, if I could just real quick for a comment, looking in the packet, that bottom right-hand corner of that page is what we're looking at from our perspective on council side for dollar amounts on what we need to find. Thank you. That is correct.

And these numbers were coming from the wage analysis in HR completed by Chris Hawker. I think that the new policy in place and what we're doing for that was spoke about last week.

And we appreciate Chris's efforts and what's going on there as well.

Yep, so these are the options to not increase funding. The 143 will get us up one pay grade, which will put us equal to the other city divisions. And then the 287 is really what we need to get up to that midpoint of industry standard.

We're going to get up to where we need to be able to be competitive and take care of our roads and exit. Going for that bottom line.

Thank you. Operation budget, we stayed about the same. Last year it was 5.2 million. This is 5.6 million. So that's well within the realm of fairly flat. I wanted to give you guys a heads up. This is just looking ahead. This is not a request that I'm asking now. This is just some tickler to keep in there. Our pit, which in 2009, I showed a picture of it. was about 200 feet by 300 feet, about 60 feet deep. So this is where we go and dump all of our street sweepings and any other like debris and things like that from the roadway that we're getting, not the large scale debris we throw that away. I show a picture of it in 2026. You can see our hole is getting filled in. So we've probably got another two to four years of capacity in this pit. And then after that, we're gonna be looking for a new pit. So we're gonna need to start thinking long-term about finding a, sizable hole in the ground if i'm being honest to put this in our other option is to use our county landfill pickles butte the average cost would be about 45 000 a year to dump our street sweepings and things over there this pit will also according to the environmental permit that we have for it will become a park after it is at capacity not one that we can do structures on but something you know like a dog park or kite park or things like that so it will be an amenity for our citizen but

It's green space.

It's the future. It will be future green space, but we're nearing capacity. Again, not now, but a couple years.

We're close there. We got to figure it out. Correct. Got it. Council President? Yes.

We recently approved a project off of Midway that was abutting an extraction site or a gravel pit. I don't know what the formal term is. Is that being worked on? Is that space being used by the owner of that property, or is that something that we could potentially be?

It's still an active fifth.

Okay. Thank you.

In five years as well? I don't know their build out.

I think it's five to 10. If we're nearing similar timelines, that might be something close enough to the city and deep enough rather than having them remediate. We just fill it in for them.

Well, the difference is, is what goes in filled determines what you can use the land for later. So we've gone in with non-structural fill in the back hall. And so that's why this is going to be green space and open space, because it won't support the structural site. So private operator on the pit, they've already got a plan as far as what materials they're bringing back in, how they're structurally coming back up. So FYI.

Any other streets related questions before I pass it back to Tom?

No. First of all, we appreciate it. One more question, sir. We do have one more. We're close on time. What are you looking for in terms of future revenue service, not revenue, but federal grants to help our streets and roads?

Councilman Rodriguez, it's very challenging to find maintenance related grants. We keep searching for them and we do have one, from ITD that will come in FY27 to repave Cherry Road between Franklin and 11th. So they do come, but they're few and far between. Most of the grants are safety capacity related type things. And so it's very, very challenging to find an outside source. We need to come up with an in-house source of income to do our maintenance.

Okay, thank you.

Tom, I'm gonna say that our infrastructure staffing item i'd like to defer to a meeting that chief of staff clay is putting together and that we cover these these last couple of pages in that meeting absolutely will do thank you that's a follow-up from what the council is aware i haven't had time to talk to you bring it but so um So Public Works, we appreciate the presentation, appreciate the information. We were asked to add something to the agenda today. So it's listed in as item 1-2, and we're going to take that issue up. I'll mention to council what's happening there, let Daniel take the lead. And staff, you're welcome to stay, but you don't have to if you want to take a moment. If you're wanting to break, now's that moment. Otherwise, this will take probably five to seven, ten minutes. So where we're at is Daniel's been working with a – who is working on installing improvements and creating a charter school. You can see it on your screen there in front of you. It's outlined in blue. In that process, the city has identified that the applicant needs to put together a traffic impact study and pending that traffic impact study, there's gonna be improvements need to be made. As I understand the applicant is potentially under a time constraint wanting to open the school. And so they're proposing an agreement between the city and themselves to outline future forward. The issue is we've done some of these things and sometimes there's comes back and there's a delay. and or the performance doesn't happen and we're expected to still allow the facility to open. And so we need to be cognizant of what's gonna be presented here. And this is a special deal. So I'm trying to just give you a quick lay of why this item showed up this morning. Daniel.

Daniel Badger, City Engineer. As Council President stated, we have been working with the Barbian something. I can't ever say it right. Charter school, Bravian, thank you. Charter school, they submitted a permit application back in March. We received the traffic impact study in April. We've gone through one round of comments. We met with them again on Monday to discuss some comments that still needed to be addressed as well as some other items with the traffic study and talked over some of our concerns. some of the approach and different things with the traffic study. It was a very productive meeting. Their consultant is working on some of those revisions. They are likely to reduce some of the required improvements, though likely not to eliminate them. And so they are working on getting the permit issued so that they can get their funding allocated and get their lease with the building or purchase with the building done. Preston was able to complete the review of the agreement yesterday. We provided those comments back to the Bravian. their attorney came back with a request to add one additional item into the agreement that would be a clause that would allow if city staff and Brabian were to come to an agreement on timing for some of those improvements, that they would be able to still open the school if we can come to an agreement improvements that may not be necessary for the opening of the school and so staff does not necessarily where we don't know exactly what those improvements are all going to entail that that's some of the concern for staff is just that we don't know at this point what all of those improvements will be. We recognize that without knowing that there may be some improvements that are, we would not be comfortable with them opening without, but there may be some that we are comfortable with them opening without if they are triggered in later years or that type of stuff. And so I think we're generally could live with that condition. with the understanding that it is, you know, with mutual agreement from staff and Brabian on what improvements are required and aren't. And so that's the gist of the agreement. They're agreeing that they will complete the traffic study to the city's satisfaction. They will undertake those improvements the way that it's drafted right now. would be that they would have those completed prior to requesting operations in the school or a certificate of occupancy. That's as it's drafted today. They've requested some leeway in there to continue negotiations once we have a final on what those improvements would be and as we get closer to their requested start of operations. Any questions?

Well, Daniel, so from my perspective it's a difficult City of Napa wants to be cooperative and helpful. Uh, the difficulty is, uh, the city of Napa has also been taken advantage of on other projects over the years at different times that people don't perform and therefore, uh, they still want to occupy the facility and then the agreement is difficult to enforce and the performance doesn't get enforced. Um, and the city at times has held the bag, uh, as it is, or, We wonder why something didn't get finished up. Well, the people just didn't get it done. So we understand the request that's coming before that there's a need to get this done. It's part of the development. You want to open the school. We understand that. At the same time, there's got to either be a performance or payment bond or a letter of credit or something that gives guarantee of some sort for those items that, uh, so in terms of adding language to the contract, what's being asked could be, but there's gotta be, uh, no different than what the city requires in other developments, some type of LC, uh, that, that says there's a guarantee that the improvements are gonna get done and done within a particular time. Now, those are my comments, council. And you can weigh in as you see fit or ask Daniel questions at this time.

I have some questions for Daniel, if I could. This roadway, right? It's industrial on 11th, correct? one of the main intersections, and then what is that right there?

Comstock. So the roadways that are near there are, so 11th Avenue North, and then you have Comstock here. Industrial is a little farther to the south. Ridgecrest is to the north. Those are some of the intersections that are identified in the traffic impact study currently for improvements.

The reason I ask, when Amazon went in, what improvements did they apply to that roadway, adding 300 to 400 additional cars for their facility?

For the King's Commerce Center, that was the development. It was not originally slated for Amazon, the King's Commerce Center developer that came in and did that. Their traffic study identified improvements at Comstock. in out years. The city collected payment in lieu of construction for that. Pending approval of this, the final traffic study, that may be the solution there at Comstock and 11th, but we don't know that yet until we see the actual triggers that their traffic study identifies.

Because I think there's a lot of... The school could be a factor of the traffic. I think the golf course, Amazon, there's a lot of other factors that are causing significant traffic to that school. Obviously having potentially four to 600 students starting in the fall might have an impact, but from my perspective, this is something that I would like to see opening in the fall, knowing and speaking to some of these families that are wanting to attend. So if the terms are agreeable on Preston's end and their legal's end, even be willing to make a motion to add that language subject to all legal parties final review i'd like to see see movement happen on this today council president yes if i could talk to i think it's uh greg or miguel one of the two or or yes brandon

Thank you, Council President, Council Member Rodriguez. For the record, my name is Brandon Dearest. I'm the head of school and support for Bryan Academy. It's bra-by-on. It's hard to say.

There we go. You got it. Cool. So I know your attorney filed a different addendum to the information agreement and what President Council Bill just mentioned. On behalf of the school, are you willing to give better direction for the city of Manhattan on 11th Avenue North?

Mr. Council President, Council Member Rodriguez, there's a couple of factors that we need to consider when we're looking at what that agreement might look like. I would say that it's likely that a requirement of a PMP or something like that would be probably devastating to the project, largely because it would impact the financing, which has already been set, and that would be catastrophic for us. We couldn't go back to WAFED and say, hey, now we need to add a PMP to this. I think that that's not us not wanting to be held accountable for the agreement that we have. We recognize that we want to be good partners with the city, just as the city wants to be good partners with us, but we also recognize the physical realities within our school, and we recognize that any movement on that end would significantly disrupt the closing of our deal on Friday. We, again, appreciate the city's willingness to hear us today and put this on the agenda. We do have significant demand, but we also have a lot of busing that happens. And I would point out that, you know, the analysis that we're going to provide to city staff, and we do appreciate Mr. Badger and his work on this, we're actually going to see a net reduction in traffic compared to the most recent occupancy use. And so, you know, because of the way our system is created the way our school is created we use something called reinforcing days where kids k-6 can choose to home learn every other day we're getting over 100 families or homeschool families in nampa to attend our school we have we hear a lot um at the statewide level about the need to be able to bring people back into the public education system and that's what we're accomplishing and those families still want to be able to home learn part of the time and so not to belabor your point uh council member but i would just say It's not that we don't want to be held accountable. We also don't want to do something that would, you know, basically eliminate the ability for this project to go forward. This is a great piece of real estate. We're trying to develop it so it serves the community better. And we want to be good partners with the city where we've continued to try to press into that direction. And I can make the commitment for myself and for the rest of our team, our chairman DeLuna, Dr. Wiles, and others that we are committed to doing that.

Basically is you can't commit without knowing what we're going to commit you to.

Correct.

Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, we're willing to, I think that at the end of the day, Council President, Mr. Council Member Rodriguez, I think at the end of the day, I think the mitigations are going to be limited. I do think that there's, you know, been conversations about some more expansive ones. But I think that once the analysis is actually completed, and you look at the real numbers, we've got real registrations where parents have had to say, this is how I plan to transfer my kid to school. This is what we're trying to do. We've got 30% of our students are low income. And that's, for a charter school, is a very, very high number. We've got a disproportionate number who want to use busing. Those two things tend to go together. And we're trying to provide access, especially for families in South Nampa, who, frankly, nobody tends to care about. and we're trying to give them something that their families themselves couldn't afford and getting access to some of the things that we've done. Yesterday we announced we had a partnership with Adidas of America. They came in, they're investing in our school. That doesn't happen. The amazing things that are happening with the school, we got Dr. Wiles, What a phenomenal pickup that is. We've got just a great team and we've got a lot of families who are interested. We still have 200 plus students on our wait list as of today. This is going to put Nampa on the map. This is going to do something that is going to be unique for Nampa.

We understand the school is a great thing. Yeah. We don't need a sales pitch on the school. I love selling my school, Mr. Council President. We understand all that.

Thank you.

The issue is you have a line of sight issue when you come over that freeway headed south. You can't see, you come up and over, and now we're out of school. Whether there's buses trying to get in and out, whether there's parents trying to drop off, it's important to us from a city point of view, wearing the city hat, it's important for this traffic study to get completed. The other part is, is to make sure that we have an understanding. What the traffic study says that we're not saying golly gee whiz we don't have funding golly gee whiz let us open and yeah we understand there's problems but we want to go ahead and open anyways and somebody takes a hit and that's my concern and so i want to make sure that we have a safe site access in and out because of the topography i've used the road for years and and i just All of a sudden, hey, you're entering a school zone. Is that sign on the other side of the freeway where you can't see so you know what's coming? Hopefully that TIS is going to point out those issues to us.

And Council President, if I could respond just briefly. Yes. I completely agree. We recognize that the city has a vested interest in making sure that you, I mean, we just listened to a presentation from Crystal related to your traffic, and that being the number one thing you guys hear about. And so I'm very sensitive to that. One of the things she said is that she likes the innovative notion of how the school is going, but we wanna be partners with the city. We've already started with the traffic impact study. It's basically finished. We're just revising some final comments, which we'll provide back to Mr. Badger and the rest of the staff. I believe probably today. Again, we're not saying that we don't want to be held accountable, and we're happy to have that in the agreement that we sign, that we will take on that fiscal responsibility to make sure that that's not passed on to the Nampa taxpayer. We recognize that would be unfair to them, and we want to make sure that we're being good stewards of the public trust that we've been given, just as you've got to be good stewards of the public trust that you've been given in your leadership positions. To the extent that the city attorney is able to make sure that that's delineated clearly within the agreement, that we will take care of that, Obviously, we've got budget margin that we build in, and those things could be addressed over time to make sure that they're taking place. Obviously, I don't believe it's an immediate term issue. We're not talking about on day one. We're talking about maybe on start of year three, and that gives us time to build up a reserve so we can pay those things out of our cash flow.

Yeah, and until we have that TIS, we don't know what the requirements are. What I'm trying to come down and avoid because I've been there is you're ready to open the school, you have whatever number of students forthcoming, and there's issues on traffic and life safety that we're being asked to waive that may be a potential issue or are sitting there on the punch list hey, you need this, and guaranteed that each of you will have letters going to council, you need to waive this. And there's a point of things that we can do to waive, but when it comes to public safety, it's not a waiver. It's not an, oh, gee whiz, it's okay to put those issues off. And as soon as we have a bus accident, somebody gets hurt, et cetera, well, why did the city council waive that requirement? So I'm just trying to, I'm not trying to be tough. I'm trying to make sure that we have the lay of the land and understand you have obligations, but we as well have to have obligations. We want it to go forward. It's just that this is a rush deal, and candidly, I see it coming forward that in 60 to 70 days, it's going to be, uh, yup, here's what we got to do, but that's going to take us for another six months, a year to get that done. And there's going to be a question mark, whether we've got a safety issue on 11th Avenue North turning into your site.

I appreciate that, Council President. I would say that we're not going to have any pedestrian traffic that is going to be prohibited in our program because we recognize just in the- You don't have parent drop off, right? We will have coordinated teams to make sure that that happens efficiently within the large queuing area that our parking lot has. Look how deep that parking lot goes. It allows us to double stack for a considerable distance so we get roads, cars off the roadway and out of the way. There's also that nice cul-de-sac that we connect onto that allows us to also get cars off the main roadway. And so we would, you know, I appreciate where you're coming from. I respectfully, I completely agree. And we want to make sure that we're good partners with the city as well. And we're committing to do that. And we're asking, we're not asking for special dispensation. We're just asking for the ability to continue to work through the process, recognizing that improvements can take time, but also recognizing the benefits of the community that we're trying to provide to them while maintaining the, making sure that taxpayers in Nampa are made whole.

I'm going to ask a question of Crystal. For a school to open, what is the requirement as far as any type of warning signs, being installed ahead of time? Does that come under the TIS or is that under streets? Who installs those signs that traffic knows they're entering a school zone and so forth. Is the school doing that or are we as a city doing that?

Council President, they have not at this point proposed a school zone adjacent to the school there. If they do and that is approved, they would be responsible to install the infrastructure for that. And we maintain those after they go in, but the school would be responsible to install that infrastructure.

Council President, have they intended that or expressed that they're intending to apply for a school zone in that area? Has that come up in your conversations?

Their traffic study at this point has not addressed that to request that.

Is that intended to be applied for at this time? Okay.

I will say that Mr. Durst represented that they believe that the traffic generation will decrease from the previous use. That has yet to be demonstrated and I am doubtful of that statement.

Does the speed limit have to change in that area?

Not unless they request a school zone. That's not something that is required.

Do you know when the traffic study will take place?

So again, they've submitted, their initial submittal came in mid-April. We received the revisions on the 12th of this month. We met with them on Monday to discuss the deficiencies and things that needed to be addressed. And so their team is working on those. I don't have a, you know, I would anticipate that we would, see it within the next week. Mr. Durst said potentially today. I don't know their traffic engineer schedule, but they did indicate that they would be working on it and get it to us as quickly as they were able.

And then question for legal. Would it be okay for us if we were to move forward with this to put something in there as far as the timeline is like a year, something that we would look at? Can you kind of give us some guidance on what that timeline should look like?

council president for the improvements for the improvements i i think i may take that one um that ultimately that will depend on what the improvements are i will say that improvements at their entrances and and turn lanes and stuff that are needed there would be things that i would not be comfortable deferring into the future if there are As we go farther away from the school, those impacts are reduced. And so having those things happen farther into the future are less of a concern, depending on what they are. But the improvements directly, the turn lanes and those that would be triggered, those would be things that we would want to see happen with the opening of the school. The other stuff, you know, depending on what they are, a year could certainly be reasonable depending on what they are.

Council President. Yes. So, Daniel, From what I understand, what their attorney put into the clause, it still gives you discretion on whether or not they can go forward. If it's not something that you feel comfortable with, then you have the ability to say, no, we're not going forward until this is taken care of.

Council President, Councilwoman Skagg, we have not seen that clause. There was just a request yesterday to have something in there, generally a clause like that. That would be something that if Council's comfortable with and wants to have in there, we would just request that you approve the agreement pending legals working that clause out.

And you're comfortable with that?

It's... not necessarily what I would, not my ideal situation, but if that's the will of the council, we can.

Well, there's, there's one aspect of wanting the will to get the job done. There's the other aspect that both parties have a meeting of the minds of what the agreement is and what the performance requirement is. Um, and so we typically don't do too much waivers on development agreements and, uh, we, expect those who sign those development agreements are going to perform within the timeframes. And sometimes they want to come back and say, well, gee whiz, go ahead and record our plat, will you? So that we can get moving forward building houses, even though we haven't put all the improvements in. So it's not this issue alone, it's what is our standard. And our standard is we have agreements, we have responsibilities on both sides of the parties. And we need to make sure, because I understand squeeze play and I understand what's going to happen in 60, 70 days that you're going to want to open and those improvements are not going to be there. And there's going to be a political pressure coming to this council to wave and to do something that puts the city at liability. That's my concern. I want to make sure that it's understood. I mean, so I just think we got to get that traffic study. And as far as signing a document yet, I mean, this is to authorize me to sign a mitigation agreement, traffic impact mitigation agreement, which means we're basically waiving or giving you time. And we don't know the details yet because we don't have the TIS yet.

We do not have a completed TIS. Correct. That's the president.

Yeah. I would like to make a motion if I could, unless that's out of order at this time.

Well, I'm not sure what we're making a motion for yet. My most authorized me to sign an agreement that we don't even have the agreement yet. No, my motion read the agreement. Let me ask a question. So Preston, have you read the agreement?

Council president? I have. And if I may just add some context to this, I think you hit it right on the head. There's kind of a three-headed nature here. You have a technical safety side with engineering, there's a legal side, and there's a political angle to this as well. And those all have to triangulate together What I'm hearing when I draft an agreement is what is the technical safety side concerns? What are the political concerns? And then legally try to thread those all together in a way that protects the city, the transaction, and hopefully a successful transaction for both parties. I've been getting a lot of feedback from engineering and safety, and to the extent possible, maximizing the concerns that Daniel has vocalized to me. There's other political concerns that this council is discussing and working through right now. So yes, there's been red line revisions, but it is not a magic wand to just make all the things come to fruition easily. But in short, yes, we've reviewed it, sent some revisions back, but there would still be more back and forth required, not to mention the safety and political concerns that are being fleshed out right now.

So if we don't have an agreement, that we've been able to read and we're making a motion to approve subject to um then that puts the onus on me and and daniel and preston uh to then have to continue to follow through without councils physically reading or seeing the documents that we're instituting so if a motion is made that says subject to legal approval by all parties

Does all parties mean yourself and the legal counsel for the school, or can counsel see that final draft that y'all do and we're the third and final party?

Yeah, if I may, Council President. It's an atypical and unusual practice, right, to leave a contract open-ended like this. It's happened in some rare instances when the intent was very clear, the understanding was clear, There weren't major obstacles. It was more of just getting it forward in a timely, efficient manner. This one does have some unanswered questions. And what I'm hearing today is maybe some real concerns that need to be worked through. So this would be atypical to leave it open-ended like that. As you know, our typical practices, we have a finished, foiled, agreed upon contract presented to you for approval.

Okay. So what's driving this timeframe? You're closing Friday.

I would just address that in two ways. First is we've agreed all the red line changes that the city attorney provided. So we are ready to, to effectuate an agreement with the additional clause that we suggested related to the opportunity for TCO. We're, we're just looking for a single line from the city attorney. He can get that done in the next 15 minutes. We're happy to sign off on it. Um, that's what we've already accepted. We've already signed up. We've already agreed.

Council president, if I may, um, We're not doing a rush deal.

I understand. We've already agreed to the city's request of changes. We don't need more back and forth for us. We're happy to accept whatever the city provides. Again, we just asked for an additional clause. To answer your question, the reason is because we need to close by the 22nd. It takes two days, 48 hours roughly to close a bond. Our PSA expires on Friday. We've already had to extend it twice. The seller's not willing to extend it again. Without a permit in hand, we can't proceed. Every other review from the city has come back and approved. The plan is submitted. Engineering is the last place that we're stuck. Frankly, Council President, that is the crux of the urgency for us. But we're happy to sign off if the city attorney can put together a clause that allows us to still have a TCO. At some point, we're happy to sign off on all the other revisions that he's already provided to us. What's a TCO? A temporary occupancy. Thank you. Mr. President, because there may be mitigations that are not safety issues. We recognize there may be things we need to do before we open it. respecting what Mr. Badger is saying, but there may be things you say, hey, you've got to do this. We couldn't even get civil engineering done in three months for those things, right? So that would be a practical impossibility, but we want to make sure that we still have a good faith effort to have those done at a time certain.

I think the key is that we have an understanding and something's in this agreement that if there are safety issues and we have potential liability as a city granting occupancy where you have the opportunity to have an accident on 11th Avenue North, And whether it's a bus accident or a people's car accident because of visibility and lack of signage, I'm not interested in signing that agreement because I think we're setting ourselves up because of the crunch of the time. And I understand crunch of the time. I've been there. I know that some of you in the room and so forth know those issues. So I just think it's wise... We have another meeting tomorrow. It's going to be a lively one. I guess I was trying to get it done today and to avoid tomorrow, but at this point, I think there needs to be a little bit of time yet today to be able to finalize agreements if the agreements aren't ready to go. I have a question. And defer a vote until tomorrow and give time to know what the agreement is.

Council President, I have a question here, and I think it's too legal or too Daniel. The city approved that building, whatever it's called, years ago, and it had the same safety issues, if there's any at all. What changed now because of the The occupancy. Is that why the? It is.

OK. A school has a whole different. You've got a different set of traffic coming to that facility than you do employee in and out and shipping in and out. OK. Never mind, Danny. That's my perspective.

In addition, obviously there's been general increase in traffic. That building, that's the original Zilog building. Zilog closed its operations in 2004. I'll be honest, I don't remember when it was built prior to me being here at the city. And so standards have changed significantly from when that building was put in. um, as well as the, as council president said, there is a significant difference in the, uh, type of traffic and traffic patterns that would be between those types of businesses.

Okay. So council president is there, would there be, uh, an issue for us to give them a nod and okay, pending, uh, modification completion within a certain timeframe.

Part of it is knowing what that traffic impact study says.

Well, that's what we're looking at right now. But apparently we don't want to stop their funding by us not wanting to continue. That's where I'm at.

They can close on the properties. There's not a problem with you closing on the property, correct? So they, they have indicated today is only giving you comfort as far as closing on the property. You can't close.

And that's because without a permanent hand, this is council president. That's why we're here. And that's why we've got so many people here. If we don't have a permit in hand this afternoon or later this morning, our PSA will expire. The bond will fail. and we will have a school. So respectfully, waiting until tomorrow doesn't do us any good either.

So the 1158 hour is our problem.

No, it's not your problem. It's not your problem, Council President. I'm just explaining to you the practical realities that we're constrained with. And that's why I said we submitted a document last week to the city. It didn't get acted on. So we were hoping to have this done earlier and we were working with staff to do that, but it was never addressed. I personally went to the city, came here after I voted here to see if we could get some movement on it because I didn't want it to become that sort of a problem. I was hoping we'd have that resolved before we got to this point, but we didn't hear anything until yesterday. We responded within 30 minutes with our attorney's review, accepting all the red lines and then moving forward. So I understand it puts the city council in a really precarious position, and I'm just telling you the practical reality. If I don't close, if I don't have a permit, if you want to help me issue a permit. What permit? A TI permit. Say again? A tenant improvement permit.

A tenant improvement permit?

Yes. That's all we're asking for. That's all we really need. If you want to sign off on us having a tenant improvement permit, then we can come back and have this discussion around what the mitigations would be. That's gravy for us. That's really all we need is a permit so we can close because the bank requires us to have a permit to be able to close a deal.

Okay, thank you.

You're welcome.

So the billing department has plans and the billing department's ready to issue a TI permit. However, the traffic impact study hasn't been completed, therefore the permit's being held.

Correct. Part of the building permit process is the traffic impact study and civil plans for any mitigations that are necessary. That is part of the building permit process. Last week when they requested and resubmitted the traffic impact study and we said there are still deficiencies, they asked, is there any path we can get the permit issued? and I responded back to them that the only way that I could see is if we had an agreement in place that they would undertake to complete that and have all their improvements done prior to the opening of school. They, uh, drafted an agreement for that, um, sent that over on Wednesday. On Thursday, I responded back with that. We had, we're sending that to legal for review and that there was a number of items that, uh, from a legal standpoint that I would typically see in an agreement like that, but I did not see in what they had submitted. They sent over a revised agreement with more of the legalese that was sent to Preston. Um, and on Friday, uh, so I sent that over, that came in Thursday afternoon, I believe. I believe I sent it over to Preston Friday morning, um, in discussing with Preston, his review times and that, uh, we responded back to them on Friday that, um, you know, we, it had been sent to legal typical review times or about 10 days for an agreement. because obviously we have one city attorney for all of the work that has to be done. Um, they, um, came in, um, Mr Durst came in to city hall, um, and spoke to, I believe, Kirsten, and Preston may want to address that. He came in on Friday at about 4.45 to my office and I spoke to him then. We've worked diligently since then to have this on the agenda and address comments. Obviously that takes, Preston's time and there are other priorities within the city beyond just this. Um, and so this is the mechanism that we were able to come up with to be able to issue the permit. Um, if there's agreement from council that, that there's a desire to do that.

Okay. Uh, so any agreement needs to have language in that agreement, that full well knowing, um, The applicant has full responsibility for any and all improvements, any and all safety measures, and the city's not waiving anything at this point in time. I won't sign anything without the coverage and the understanding. And it's not to be hard or difficult. It's so that we have a good understanding that in 20 days, 30 days, 40 days, you go to occupy and things aren't done, And there's liability potential back to the city. I don't want to have a crowd here saying, open our school. Why won't you open our school? And I just want to make sure that we have clear direction forward. So I don't have a problem trying to figure out something so you can go forward. But I also don't want to have a sentence added that says, we've got an out. and we've got protection to open our school without doing the improvements. And I don't want to have a bash between the building department and yourselves when it comes to two days before opening and parents are planning on their children being there at school and the city is the bad cop because we're enforcing the codes or you haven't performed. I've seen it happen and I'm just putting it on top of the table. I just don't want to have the misunderstanding between groups who know one another and people who know one another and the awkwardness of the situation, so.

Greg. I'm sorry, Council President. I think Greg .

Yes.

Council President, if I may, just as a follow-up to your point, I think all those points can be addressed. And to Daniel's comments there, just offer some clarification. The city has worked diligently with all due respect. We understand that there's a time urgency here, but any characterization that somehow this sat on our lap and we were waiting or somehow a delay just has to be cleared. I was told by my paralegal that on Friday afternoon, The representative from the Academy came. There was a urgent demand that we act immediately. And when it was clarified that that can't happen right this second, the response, with all due respect, was pretty rude and loud and unprofessional. And that's not acceptable to help a city help you. This has to be a two-way agreement. Obviously, we're going to work as diligently as possible But I just want to clarify that my primary outside legal counsel is unavailable this week, too. So we've been kind of short staffed. But I think we've been working as diligently as possible. And we are here to mitigate the city's interests. And that's our first and foremost priority. And that just has to be understood during this process. So I just want to add that that layer as well. Thank you. Thank you.

Council President.

Yes, Mr. Reynolds. I would like to make a motion that we table this until we have all the correct information and the correct process has been completed. This, this rush is not good for the city and it's not where we should be today. So I would like to make that motion and see if we can get a second on it.

I'm going to ask that we hold for that because we have somebody at the podium is going to speak. So if you'll hang with us here for a moment.

Yeah. Council members, my name is Dr. Greg Wiles, and I'm the CEO of Rabion, and this is the fourth school that I've been involved with here in Nampa. I was the principal at West Middle School, and came and talked to the city about, or the traffic, to add an egress and regress there, and we worked together, and it was a decision of the Nampa School District to add sixth grade to the middle school, which brought more parents to drop off kids And we grew from 900 kids to 1,200 within two years. And so there was a change. And we worked together and figured that out. 2008, I opened up Lone Star Middle School. And it was on Middleton. It was only one way, I don't know if you call that two way, east and west or south and north. Knowing that we had a culvert there and knowing that there was no lights, And the city worked with us and five years later, we're able to get that closed in and we appreciated that. And Napa Christian, where I've been serving as superintendent for 13 years on Midway and also our elementary campus on Orchard, we worked with the city to get a school zone there because traffic changed. And I understand that this could potentially change the traffic there, knowing that, It was a semiconductor building and they had a lot of employees coming in there. But we appreciate just the opportunity to come in. And I know Mr. Durst was and feels a lot of pressure and I don't want to apologize for him. I'll let him do that to you. But there is a lot of pressure right now because we have a lot of families that we've been meeting with. We had 250 that met with us at the public library just the other day. I've never been involved in opening a school from ground zero. and there's a lot there. So we have a lot of pressure with these families and with the staff that we've been hiring, and we appreciate you looking at this, and we will do whatever we can do to help with that process. So thank you for giving me this time.

Yes, sir.

The question mark is, where are we at on the agreement?

Council President, we received a draft, as Daniel noted, Friday afternoon, reviewed that, sent red lines back addressing some of these concerns, given the kind of the pressure cooker situation that this is. I understand there's maybe some revisions.

Is there legal counsel wanted to add? What was that sentence again? Yeah.

Um, that would allow a little more discretion for Daniel. And I, I give a lot of deference in this situation to Daniel, um, and Lena and his input for this scenario. And Daniel, I think is going to speak to that conversation.

so so the the agreement uh mr durst is correct they they said they were good with the agreement with just the request to add some discretion on non and we could craft that to be specifically non-safety related concerns for being able to extend that time frame beyond school opening if we if that clause is crafted such that they have to be specifically non-safety related. That's something that I think we can work with if that's the will of the council.

We're throwing around a lot of terms. We're not giving them occupancy in this agreement. We're giving them a TI permit, correct?

So this, this agreement would allow us to issue the permit prior to the building permit. So the tenant improvement permit prior to the, prior to the completion of the traffic impact study and the drawings, um, for the required improvements. That would be the typical process is that all of the, the traffic study would need to be approved. The plans for the improvements would need to be approved before the permit would be issued. That would be the standard process before the occupancy permit. No, before the issuance of the building permit. Um, the, Clause within the agreement as it's crafted now requires that they complete those two steps and complete the construction of those improvements prior to occupancy being issued. Thank you.

Any clarity? Is it clear to you the requirements to be able to occupy the building? Need to have you come to the mic. Yes, sir.

It is, and that's why we were asking for, we accepted all the changes that the city had. There was an indemnification language that was added to the agreement, which we agreed to. I apologize to the city attorney and to his staff if I came across as abrupt. I do have a lot of pressure. I've been working on this for four years. I'm this close to be able to get this thing done. I'm asking for the council to just recognize the value of this is we're willing to work with the city. We get a single line, an additional line on the agreement. We're ready to have it done. And that could include something that's specific to safety issues needing to be done before any TCO could even be talked about. We're happy to do that. And my kids are going to be going to this school.

I don't want anybody to get hurt. What I'm after is contract and issues with legal. Yes, correct. But we're happy to move forward as it is. This council stayed an extra 40 minutes at the moment, so we need to come to grips. So, Councilman Reynolds, you've heard the comments. Are you acceptable to a conditional approval at this stage?

I am not. I still am not comfortable with the information that we have received. I don't understand how you've been working on something for four years, come down to the last day, and you didn't cross all your Ts and dot all your Is. That just doesn't make sense to me. We need to have all the TIS and the stuff in order, just like anybody else would have to do, and then come back and get it done. That's my opinion.

Council President. Yes. I'm just going to make a motion. Get this thing going. I'll make a motion to approve this pending further. But for right now, let's just get her done. And so I need a second. Can I get clarification on the motion?

Yeah, we need we need more information in that motion.

So based on what Daniel says, all they want to do is to do a TI gives them the opportunity to proceed. Any other requests, agreements, signage on modifications would come later down the road, which they would have to agree to. They would have to comply with regarding the permit. That's what I'm saying.

So the agreement, President, that you've looked at, can it include or does already include what we need? I mean, they're asking for a waiver on something in that agreement.

The question is, is the question we need it or don't need that waiver. We have language in there that, uh, essentially allows the city, um, discretion if they, the city engineer, um, to evaluate the revised TIS.

But these are, Hmm.

Is there a comment?

So the agreement as written currently, they have to have the improvements complete prior to the certificate of occupancy or commencement of school operations. If it's council's desire to allow for some additional flexibility, the motion would need to be to approve the agreement, a signature of the agreement upon legal, agreement from the legal on both sides for the amended clause that would allow for a TCO to be issued prior to completing non-safety related traffic improvements as identified by the traffic study.

And Daniel is the one that determines that. That's his decision. We're all on the same page with that. And so if the motion is tailored to just that clause, I can work with Chris Yorgerson. I know Chris. We can hammer out that language, I believe. Again, with Daniel's blessing on it, which he's well aware of it, we've discussed it.

Okay. So you're opening your schedule yet today to get this modification done. Then you're going to let me know when that agreement's ready to be read. Yes, sir. And I will adjust that motion to what Daniel said.

Second.

Council President.

Yes.

My other concern is that if for our building department's sake is that every time somebody goes in to apply for a TI permit and they don't have their ducks in a row if they don't like it they come into council and throw a fit and get counsel to give them a conditional or something like that. I don't I don't agree with that. Our building department is stuck between a rock and a hard place. And then the political side, we have these processes in place for a reason. And, you know, everybody needs to follow those processes. So I don't like the feeling of undermining our building department.

Council President. Yes. Just as a response, I think we're creating bad actors. We're not duly. Oh, I'm hearing back feedback. I don't want to be disparaging in our comments to the applicant here. I think we're trying to all do our best. So I think this is a unique circumstance with a school with significant amount of Nampa students, not necessarily a commercial fleet operation of profiting. This is a public school, a public charter school trying to not from what I understood from the way it wasn't necessarily they're waiving any safety. It's the opportunity. to go in and do improvements by receiving the TI permit first, and then go about and do all these problem solving issues thereafter, not necessarily get rid of the issues. It's saying, allow us to just move forward with our closure. And then, but I could be misunderstood. I'm just wanting full clarity.

That is the, the gist of the agreement. The challenge obviously is that, um, as council president bills has expressed and I've expressed, It is, we are concerned over the timetables we're talking about.

So, um, council president's call for the vote.

Clerk will call the roll.

Reynolds. No. Jingula. Yes. Scog. Yes. Bills.

No.

Rodriguez. Yes. Griffin. Yes. Motion carries.

So motion passed. Uh, let's work together to get things done. But if you're in here the next time and we've got two hours or we're under crunch because you want to open and you got parents showing up the following morning, uh, Performance is proof in the pudding, right? So we want to be accommodating. We want to help. The city of Napa has done an excellent job for both private and public type projects on that. But the squeeze play is not going to be appreciated in 60, 70 days when you want to occupy that facility if things aren't done. So please just be advised. It's not heavy-handedness on our part. There is a responsibility. I've been through plenty of applications in the 30 years on building permits and land development. And so I well know I've been at the desk of the building department upset. So I've been on both sides of the equation. But this one, for some reason, why it's delayed and now it's seemingly our issue, we're trying to help. So I just want to make sure we're Kind of trying to stay on the same page. Preston, you'll need to let me know. You're opening your schedule. You'll let me know when we got an agreement. Sounds like Mr. Durst needs an agreement in order to go to closing. So thank you. All in favor to adjourn? Aye. Aye. Aye.