City Council - Regular Meeting

Tuesday, September 16, 2025
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About this meeting

Government Body
City Council
Meeting Type
City Council
Location
Tremonton, UT
Meeting Date
September 16, 2025

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258 sections (from 676 segments)

0:00 – 0:460

And um we've got a lot of things on the docket for this evening that we need to discuss. And so, uh, without any further ado, I'm just going to turn the time over to our, um, public works director, public works director, Carl, um, Mley, and and, um, we'll let you go ahead and, uh, talk to us about we got some issues as, uh, many of us aware are aware, we've got some issues with culinary water uh, break lines are breaking and and we've had a lot of repairs this summer. And so with that, we'll turn the time over to you guys and and uh bring us up to speed.

0:41 – 1:230

Thank you. Have a presentation work off of. But um and we're also waiting for uh Chris Brian Holt's going to come join us. So, I've got all the muscle I can muster and we'll just have a conversation. It just intended to be kind of an update. We're not asking for any decisions or anything to be made tonight. Um, just want to do our part to inform the council and have a good conversation about some of the public works issues, particularly two two things.

1:21 – 2:220

Can you guys hear? All right. it. I don't know if the you can hear now. You can hear us. Okay. Now, okay. Is it me? This one's not. Okay. Um, you can advance the slide. Thank you. Okay. Just forformational purposes to set the stage. The public works department overseas among other things a 3 million gallon per day wastewater treatment plant. 49 mi of roads, 89 mi of culinary pipelines, 59 mi of secondary pipelines, 39 mi of sanitary sewer pipelines, 31 miles of storm drain lines, multiple pumps, pump stations, valves, etc. Six water tanks, the Riverview Cemetery, and more.

2:20 – 3:040

Isn't that fun? Isn't that fun information to have? That's all. That's it. Okay. Uh, next slide, please. Um, so we wanted to talk specifically tonight about some two particular issues with uh culinary water. Um, can advance, please. Sorry, Highway was closed. Did you get my text? Oh, no. I mean, I probably did, but got on the highway. Didn't glad. Glad you made it. Me, too. Was it north or southbound? It was out here on 13 north between here and Riverside.

3:020

Oh, had too many of those. Heard them head out.

3:06 – 5:040

Okay. Um, just again laying the groundwork here. Portions of the inner part of town have undersized cast iron pipes that are approximately 90 years old. We know that because portions that we've removed had 1936 stamped on them. So, they're they're getting up there. Uh we've identified 4.4 miles of pipe that fall under this category. I have a map I'll show you in a minute. Wanted wanted to let you know also in the past one thing that we've done with aging infrastructure is that we've included it as part of a capital facilities plan and we haven't necessarily addressed our entire infrastructure works uh as a proactive component of repair and replace for maintenance. So, we want to be a little bit more proactive instead of reactive, even though what I'm suggesting or we're going to talk about tonight is semi-reactive. Next slide, please. So, here's uh if you if you look at the map there, the left side is north. And so, that's that's actually Main Street. That's It's running vertically through the there. And then Yep. And then you have uh 100 West, Tmont Street, Second and First East Indicated as those are um composed the 4.4 miles of 90-year-old pipeline that it's been kind of the problem. Next slide. Okay. So, in the last 3 years, um, just the

5:02 – 7:000

kind of ones that we've documented, there's been 32 plus leaks or breaks, mainline breaks, not just leaks, mainline breaks in that water infrastructure there. And just wanted to let you know because this this has already been on our radar, so this is not totally brand new. Um, but it's been on our radar to replace those portions south of Main Street. Um, we've tenatively scheduled that for 2028. When we made our list of capital projects a few months ago, all of both of these were identified as being critical. So, it's just it's all critical stuff. We may want to push push some of this up a little bit, though. And the north part was scheduled for two years later. Um estimated cost was 15 or $1.5 million to replace the north portion. 900,000 for the south portion. That's those were numbers that were determined some time ago and are no longer valid. Next slide please. Okay. So this illustrates those 32 plus brakes. You can see there are some particular hot spot areas but as you can see the entire uh well I mean without exception there's not a a water line among those 90y old water lines that hasn't had a significant break in the last three years. So kind of v helps to see visually what is been going on there. Next slide.

6:56 – 8:220

Okay. So Chris has been super helpful at um working with us and trying to number one we we knew that there were improvements that needed to be made uh replacements that needed to be made north and south of Main Street. Um, we also, so we we I don't know that we formally identified what those locations were though until recently. Um, so it's the 4.4 miles. Uh, we also need to include a section of Main Street in in that. And so you can see the updated cost estimates. The South went from 900,000 to 1.4 4 million 58% increase. The north even higher um went from 1 and a.5 million to almost 3.8 million. Um we think that our we like these cost estimate numbers in that we feel that they are representative of of entire replacement um meaning the services as well. We've had additional leaks besides mainline brakes. We've had leaks in old services. So, those would all be updated

8:21 – 8:320

just to the meter. Just to the meter. Yeah. Not not on people's property. That includes valves and fire hydrants as well.

8:29 – 9:100

Yep. So, it's kind of a total overhaul. So, that's 5.2 million which excludes Main Street. Um, we know that Main Street, Main Street has had its share of breaks, but Main Street is kind of its own particular animal in that we have other improvements that we want to make along Main Street. So, and so we could do these in phases, in pieces. Um, and we just out of curiosity, do we have the info on how much it usually costs us per break? justformationally is it

9:08 – 9:300

we we don't but we would love to be able to provide that. Andrew and I when mostly Andrew's been been thinking about that and and um that is information that we will present at a followup presentation. I think it'd be helpful to have does this include like the road repair I mean patching and all that.

9:27 – 10:110

It does include the road repair patching of of that. Um but that that conversation could dovetail into um sort of the next portion that we're going to talk about in a minute, which is road maintenance. I mean, we would likely want to do some kind of road maintenance, finishing, refinishing in conjunction with doing major waterline replacement like this. These estimates include, as anticipated, you'd damage some curb and some sidewalk and certainly some landscaping. And I tried to include numbers for any of that. It also includes 20% um contingency

10:10 – 10:480

contingency in those numbers. So they're they're numbers that we feel a lot more confident in. At least we know where they came from and what is So the 5.2 two does does include the repair to the roads and it includes all of that, but it doesn't include like refinishing any of those sections of road. It's just restoring Oh, just patching, putting the Mhm. Ultimately, you'd want to chip seal it after it's all done and everything.

10:45 – 11:280

Yep. I think so. So, um that's kind of we feel very strongly that we've just the sheer number even in the last month of of breaks that we've had to deal with. We feel like it's we feel like it's complaining to us. It's telling us a story. It's like your your car that you've limped and fixed and fixed and fixed forever and at some point you got to be ready to replace that car. And maybe it's time to replace that car sooner than we thought. But I mean, 90 years, getting 90 years out of a a pipe is wonderful.

11:27 – 12:020

Good, isn't it? I mean, they they say, you know, PVC will go 100 years, but we don't know yet cuz it wasn't invented 100 years ago. At least not that I know of. So, one other note, all these lines are 4 in lines, diameter lines. They're unders sized. The minimum size we put in now is 8 in. I know fires over there and my previous thing the hydrants there's just not enough water over there. Well, and and when we the east part I haven't been over here much but

11:59 – 13:580

and I think I feel fairly confident that we do exercise all of the hydrants regularly but I'm not as confident that we've exercised all of the individual valves. Uh case in point, we had a break a couple weeks ago and instead of being able to shut the water off to just that block, we had to shut it off on couple ends on and take in more than that block, you know, and it was only a couple hours or whatever. But you know, it's just those valves are old, too, and they need to be maintained and operated, you know, annually at least just to exercise them. So, we know we know it's just it's giving up on us. Let's go to the next slide, Cynthia. Thank you. Okay. Um, so this is the next sort of water related issue I wanted to talk about and I've mentioned a little bit to you guys previously is about our sanitary survey. Uh, I believe I told you how many points we got assessed last time. We got 815 points assessed to us. That's not something that we're proud about. That's something that again tells us that something needs to be done here. Um, Andrew and I met with the division of drinking water that assesses those points that's that oversees those water systems. We met with them today and um, one thing is getting that amount of points is very subjective depending on who your surveyor is. In the past, they even would have uh, the county health department come and do those. And I and I think the the county health department felt less qualified to

13:54 – 14:390

do that kind of thing, but you know they anyh who it's depending on the surveyor that you get and that kind of thing. It's it can be very subjective. Um the surveyor that came out this last time is not it was pretty young and not super experienced. That said, I don't necessarily mind them being strict with us because it helps, you know, it helps us to know that if the expectation is here, well, we want to be above that even. So, were some of the u more notable issues that uh the inspector was citing?

14:35 – 15:140

Uh, a lot of it was gasket related. So you have gaskets along around manholes that seal so critters can't climb in there, spiders and whatever. And that can be very subjective whether the gasket is still good or not or needs to be replaced. But every single manhole that uh was inspected and there was at least what five of them probably. No, there's more than five because there we have six tanks and each tank has hatches and then the all the spring collection boxes. So, probably more like 10 to 15.

15:11 – 17:090

Yeah, I mean we got we got what 25 points each for for those. I mean, it was they really got out the red pin and went to town. So, um those are easy ones to fix really. Those are those are not um that concerning to us. Some of the other ones is like uh woody vegetation brush and and bushes that they want to have a a 50 foot radius cleared around your spring collection area. Number one, a spring collection area is a very subjective thing in the first place. I mean, I don't have eyes to see underground exactly what our spring collection area is. So, in most cases, you just maintain what you own. And so, we do that. We keep it clear. We keep it fenced. But um technically there are property owners that surround us. We don't own or control that property. We can't just go cut down their trees or that kind of thing, you know. Um those were the kind of discussions that we had today. And um we feel like the so the reason why we the meeting was held with them today is they identified all of the water suppliers that had a significant number of points and it triggers basically an investigation of of their of their own. What did they do? And so, you know, it was it was very helpful and beneficial to have that meeting today because it really uh opened some opportunities where they were kind of like and we had they had tons of pictures so we could look at the picture and talk about it. So, it was very useful to be able to discuss that and and and they're going to work with us pretty well. We'll probably ask for some exceptions in certain cases and in other cases, you

17:07 – 19:060

know, we're just going to totally comply and exceed expectations kind of thing. Um, anyho, 815 points for is really significant. Um, Cynthia, will you advance the slide? Okay, I I think I've pretty much covered all this stuff. We do have four months to address the current deficiencies. Um the fencing is another issue that the area should be spring collection areas and spring areas with all of your infrastructure needs to be fenced. Um in this case, the whole general area is fenced and the surveyor failed to observe that. And so that's kind of an easy win right there where Yeah. that main cuz we have several springs and I think she was looking for a little fence here and a little fence next to that one and another fence next to there when when in reality the whole general area is fenced and the intent is to keep out livestock and there's never any livestock down there. They're all totally fenced out. So, it looks worse than it is, but it still is kind of sending a message to me at least that um because of the age of some of our infrastructure, it's it's just easier to have those points assessed and they just, you know, stuff deteriorates over time and that kind of thing. Um, next slide. So, the next two uh slides show where all of the deficiencies are are located. Every single one of those X's is where we have infrastructure that they looked at and that we got marked up on the stuff on

19:04 – 20:390

the very left side of the of the screen. That's our spring collection areas. There is also on in the lower right hand portion of in the foothills of the mountain there. We have tanks and other infrastructure there, but there's also another spring over there. It's a very kind of seasonal low producing spring and it's got pretty old infrastructure and they really nailed us on on that as well. I mean you can see basically every every uh cluster of those X's is is where we have you know you know major infrastructure and and we got multiple violations on all that stuff. So next slide. So we also get some of our water um of our own water that doesn't come from the conservancy district. We also have a spring that is um kind of northwest radio hill area and that is and we have tanks over there. So those are the other locations where we got deficiencies on there. Next slide. Is this helpful by the way? Okay. I'm like cuz we worked on this and I'm blabbing a lot but I'm I'm just hoping that it's pretty helpful. So the question is you know what should what should we do about all this? and we'll talk more about that. But um let's go to the next slide. We're going to talk a little bit about transportation and roads.

20:400

You want to talk about that one? Yeah. Okay. Um

20:44 – 21:570

this was before my time, but in April of this year, the city council approved resolution resolution 25-11, which established a special revenue fund for roads. Um it took the roads out of the general fund. Um the city manager directed public works to research a tough or a transportation utility fee. Um essentially a a tough considers the city roads as a utility and provides um funding for road maintenance and reconstruction um through the utility billing. Um so the tough associates a trip value to each um utility account um in the city and it categorizes those into different um categories. There's residential, multif family, commercial, industrial um and each account will pay their portion based off the number of trips. So the more trips associated with that, the the bigger impact they have on the roads and the more um they would pay towards that transportation utility fee.

21:540

Next slide. Oh, do we have Yeah. Yeah.

21:59 – 23:580

Um like Carl mentioned at the beginning, we we have just over 49 miles of uh city- owned roads in um Tmont City. That that's just the city owned ones. There's more state roads, but um it's recommended to chip seill roads every seven years and then repave every 28 years. Um according to Chris's most recent um engineer cost analysis, the chip sale costs $3.25 per square yard. And repaving, there's a couple different options, but it varies from 19 to $27 per square yard. Um, if we followed the above guidelines, the average annual maintenance cost would be about 1.3 million with those current numbers and the current amount of road that we have. Next slide. Well, that was it. We're done. No. So, so kind of one of the reasons why I included that very first slide that um identified, you know, what how much infrastructure there is to track is. Um we don't we we haven't had a a real useful way of of keeping track of all those individual miles, all those individual valves, you know, the condition of different road sections and that kind of thing. At least we haven't utilized that fully in the past. We do have our GIS maps which is super helpful which is where we get all those lengths and that kind of thing from. Um and that's good but we need a good database behind that that can uh have pictures in it that can have um material types related to it. Um

23:56 – 25:310

age a yeah age of the infrastructure when it was last inspected when it was last installed that kind of thing. So that's that is something that we are actively working on and something that will be very very helpful in the future. The the main reason why I wanted to um talk to the council about this is that I would like to move to a little bit more proactive maintenance of repair and replace uh schedule and with all the right pieces in place that will be much easier to do. We can't just mass I mean that 218 miles of pipeline in the ground of all the different pipelines. So if those if those had a really did have a 100redyear life we're replacing you know 2.2 miles of that every year. When's the last time we've done that? You know so right now we're talking about doing 4.4 four miles and after that we want to maintain uh we want to be able to inspect our infrastructure better. We want to be on top of knowing what the appropriate uh maintenance schedule for repair and replace for that that that should be and and then how will we fund that kind of repair and replace program. That's that's what we want to want to talk about tonight.

25:29 – 26:020

Any questions? I mean, you've asked a few already, but what was good? We're anxious to hear some feedback from I I appreciate that approach. I really do. I think I think we we need to do that. We need to look at a proactive way to get go ahead of that. Inspect, find our problems, fix them before they happen. So, yeah, I love it. Do we have a capital improvements plan updated, ready to go, or is that something that that's what you're proposing is that we need to be more proactive about our capital improvements?

26:00 – 26:440

I have my great friend Chris here to talk to us about our current capital facilities plans. We're currently updating the the water water and secondary. Secondary was done, you know, in planning for the whole secondary system. So there's not a lot to do there, but uh the cap the culinary water capital facility plan is being updated right now. Okay. And then we'll I'd like to move on to the sewer the collection system part of the sewer system after that. Some of that I think is the transportation master plan up to date or do we feel like that's out of date? It's very up to date. Transportation master plan is up to date. Brand new. I Yeah, it's brand new, right? And the water and sewer plan. I mean, is it

26:42 – 27:150

that's what I'm working on right now and the water is what I'm working on right now. Also, the uh storm drain I I hear you talking quite a bit about the storm drain is, you know, needs to be Yeah. looked at a little closer as well. Kind of a game of whack-a-ole. We hit the storm drain down for a minute and now the the roads and the and the water infrastructurees come up in its place. But yeah, and I guess the the question I have is how is growth being communicated to you for the updating of those plans,

27:13 – 27:500

right? As we're looking forward into development and the land use plan is do do we have good crossover there where our projections meet what those plans are saying? Because I think that's where a lot of my concerns lie is is where those marry. I would say the last one we did in 2013 as far as projections, the growth projections are a little behind but actually not terribly behind. Uh but the growth has been faster than we anticipated. Yeah.

27:46 – 28:380

But we can always in my when I've looked at these things historically, they'll always be you know always going to be periods of of quicker growth that eventually kind of balance out. So over the long term, the curve always seems to be come back and meet the growth curve, the growth growth pattern that actually happens. But everything, you know, every time we do this, we adjust what the growth has been and where we're at now and and try and project the future a little more. And and it seems like anytime you do an update like that, the anticipated um priorities get rep prioritized. You know, some something didn't do as well as we anticipated. It rises to the surface and other ones are doing better than we anticipated and they

28:36 – 28:580

we push those back down and we prioritize. But um I I think um instead of when did you say the last one was done? 2020 2013 there was 2013 there was an update for the for the uh CF for the impact fee in 2017 I think it was or something like that but

28:56 – 30:050

but kind of marrying that to our asset management makes that be more like a living document that can be updated easier and and and kept more current, you know, instead of oh, we're gonna build a new plan again and start from scratch. Not that we really necessarily do that, but just helps us to really stay on top of things and and and kind of before things get real bad, like I I I don't know. I I just I I think that the water infrastructure that we have is really pretty old some of it. You know, our water quality is good. Our water is safe. Our drinking water quality is good. We sample all the time. we test, but the older that that infrastructure gets, the harder it is to, you know, maintain that status and and water infrastructure and any city infrastructure is obviously very expensive and gets more expensive as time marches on.

30:01 – 30:370

Is it the uh the frequency of the breaks? Does it anything to do with are we are we delivering a higher pressure water or is there is there some sort of a something we can look at as to why we're suddenly getting uh more brakes. It's old, it's brittle, it's small diameter so pressures can be higher, you know, it's just it's had it. It's aging and and a lot of them happen in the summer because increased use, you know, more velocity through the

30:31 – 30:490

Yeah. pipe tends to to create larger pressure waves and dynamics in the pipe that help burst the pipe.

30:45 – 31:540

Yeah. Wow. You know, I I honestly think this highlights why, and I probably sound like a broken record at this point, but our capital asset plan and having understanding what assets are going to be needed when, it's impossible for city council to budget without that projection. you know, knowing that we've got a 90-year-old system that's coming up at XY and until we get those documents from all of our heads, every department, it's, you know, I don't know how to accurately budget in a way that is with good stewardship, right, without being reactionary. And it's why I'm I'm asking for it so that we can be proactive in our budgeting too in every way. And so it starts with that capital improvement plan um from you guys. So I would ask as fast as we can to get that, you know, and I know it's a lot of work and what it takes to get one of those. So appreciate all you're doing.

31:51 – 32:350

Where are we active? Where where are we on this capital facilities plan? are I mean is it something we're actively working on? The base the base part of a of a culinary water capital improvement plan is is a a water model computer water model of the system. uh we've taken all the billing data. The old model didn't go to this much technical detail. Uh but we've taken all the billing data that we have from the city and and using GIS assigned addresses and demands. So we know where exactly all of the the higher demand, you know, where the demand is at in the system. Um as of today, I was told I have a fully operational updated working water model.

32:33 – 32:560

Yes. So he talked to me today, did he? So from that now we'll take and plug in our projections of growth areas and see where we have well we'll see where we have problems right now and then we'll plug in growth areas and see where we have problems and and then the report gets written. So you're getting that information as as you're needed

32:53 – 33:370

as needed to be updated. We'll probably get together as a as a staff and talk about, you know, projections for growth and where we think those things will best be applied and in our modeling. That's where this is a little bit of crystal ball work and it does need to be updated on occasion because of that because we project growth over here, but it happens over here. So, we do the best we can and and try and keep it up to date. But, capital plan to me is pretty dynamic. There's going to be you can plan for all this, but there's still you still got to keep something for the the stuff that went crazy. Yeah. In anybody's budget.

33:36 – 34:270

Well, and and this is a little bit conjecture on my part, but I really believe that the city had to hyperfocus on getting the secondary water supply developed. And that was, you know, a very strong focus that took a lot of time and a lot of interest. And and I really feel like that's probably one of the reasons why some of this stuff didn't get looked at as closely or as as you know, very recently. So, I think, you know, that was good, but we've kind of we're kind of buttoning that up. We've got money and projects and things approved to to finish that up within the next year and a half. And so, um, now it's time to get a good repair and replace planning.

34:25 – 34:460

The, uh, ruptures that you that you showed earlier, um, uh, you know, on mainly in the older part of town, um, is that over the last how many years? That was within the last 3 years? 36 months. Okay. That's what I thought, but I couldn't remember.

34:44 – 35:270

Following up on the capital improvement plan, I mean, you're one portion of it. Have we continued to populate the document that was started where we had some priorities and different things with different heads? Is that is that still in motion or with our changes in admin, has that kind of been lost or what what's going on there? I don't think it's actively updated necessarily a budget next. Yeah, I don't know. We should probably kick that in gear again now so that come January it's very easy

35:24 – 36:010

so that we're not scrambling. I think it'll take a lot of pressure off of you guys having to scramble to get those and gives you time to document and research the priorities of what each department needs. That way we're not last minute trying to [Music] trying to budget. Any other questions for public works? Okay. Any more questions for us?

35:59 – 36:510

Um, we would like to be able to schedule a a follow-up um conversation probably, you know, a month or month and a half down the road and talk more about the guts of, okay, I think we all kind of feel the same way. We're on the same page that way now. How do we financially get this done? And I've talked to the mayor a lot about funding sources, looking for additional funding. I've been talking with Lindsay. We've been talking with Curtis about, you know, what do we have now? How is that going to change things if we repprioritize some of those capital projects? So, you know, we'll we'll definitely have Curtis here to help talk about that, but um that's kind of the the follow-up conversation that we want to have.

36:50 – 37:210

Sounds really good. So, yeah. Yeah. Well, and I would just reiterate again, you know, having that conversation without the rest of the context of the other departments is going to be really difficult to make isolated decisions. That's why I think as you know as a general we need to all be working toward the capital improvement plan so that we can have a discussion to make decisions you know because if we're looking at it just from that context it'll be hard to to to choose if you will.

37:19 – 38:290

Well and the other thing I would say I know people have questioned me in the past on why do we need an an assistant public works director kind of thing. Well, this is why we need an assistant public works director. You know, we need somebody who's very capable, very smart, and that can help us update and create and I should say create and update our uh asset management system. And so, you know, that's this is possible because Andrew is here to help us out. the bas uh you know when we're looking at really what we're looking at is uh you know our enterprise funds uh keeping up with the demand for replacement and improvements and everything is that going to be part of what you're going to do Andrew is sort of uh do we do we look at the uh uh you know the fee schedules and everything and make sure that what we're you know we're we're keeping up and we're not getting behind when it comes to want me to answer that or you want to answer?

38:28 – 39:140

You can answer. But that yeah, that was part of our plan to talk with Curtis about cuz um there's some question is what we have available now versus what we will need to be available. So Andrew is more involved in the in the day-to-day creation and and updating and and overseeing of the asset management system. the the money end of things. I'm not asking him to to be involved in. That's something that I really want to be uh that I feel like is my responsibility also to work with other staff and city council on and the mayor.

39:12 – 39:560

Okay, good. Thank you. Thank you very much you guys. Appreciate it. Yeah. All right. Um let's see. um presentation on the inport. Let's see. Stephanie, I don't see Stephanie here. What's that? Oh, here we go. Okay. Here we go. It's got to be me. It's got to be you. I'm not going to project. Can I just talk through this one? Is that okay? Yeah. Um are you ready for me, mayor? Can I just start talking? Yes, we're ready for you. Uh thank you.

39:53 – 40:140

First of all, uh this is a presentation on the inland port, an update for the council to uh see where we're at as far as uh progress with our uh with the inland port. Uh still part of the county, hasn't been hasn't been brought into the city yet. So maybe you can just bring us up to speed.

40:12 – 41:540

Sure. I'll do my best. I expected my associate vice president Stephanie to be here. I think she thinks this is at 6:00. So hopefully I'm done before she gets here and and then she'll later correct anything I say incorrectly. Scott Wolfford, W Fo D. I'm the vice president of business development for the for the Port Authority. Um the Tmont section for for now limits itself to just the northern portion of the Lakeshore Learning um complex facility. It's about 30 acres that are in Tree Mountain City which has not just been um completed construction but we have triggered that portion. So the property tax differential much of which has taken up an incentive that we use to lure that company here uh is is going to be received this coming calendar year which we're very excited about. The facility is operational. They have around 400 employees that are that are working every day there. Um there's some movement to um complete and do some financing on the factory street upgrades, but gratefully that's on the Garland City side of of that. So they have to worry about those things. To your point, mayor, and I'll I'll just hit that since it came up first. There's what we're calling the Harwood zone, which is to this date, it's been amended by the by Boxelder County into the Inland Port project area with the anticipation that it will be annexed into the Tmont City limits. We are very, very excited to Is this Stephanie?

41:51 – 42:210

Mhm. He's like I'm going to keep talking. Keep talking. Okay. And you figure out what you want to hear. That's all I got. See, could you pull that other speaker over there? Yeah, probably that will be a little easier. Stand in the back. How about that? Is that better? Really? Um I'll back up a little. I'm going to talk about Harwood for a second. Excellent.

42:18 – 44:010

Uh the Harwood zone again is uh still still part of Boxelder County, not Treemont City. anticipate an annex there. Um very excited to begin recruitment and kind of a plan of what we want to recruit and what type of utility lift will be needed there. And certainly we can we can take one of either or or kind of a mix of strategies to wait until the annexation happens or to proactively recruit it. Right now, uh, we're seeing, um, I'm going to call it more rural areas of the state that have adjacency to the interstates are becoming very popular with companies that are looking to maybe reonshore some manufacturing. That made sense before the Trump tariffs to be overseas. But now with kind of some instability in those markets, there's some consideration of maybe we don't want to worry about navigating tariffs that are changing daytoday, week to week, and we should just bring those things back back uh within the United States. Very excited about that. Um, the the prettiest girl at prom, if I could use an inappropriate metaphor right now, is kind of Green River City. And we see a a a similarity between Tmont with your I-15, I 84 um, adjacency to kind of what they enjoy um, with Interstate 70 there in the in the south, I don't want to say southeast because it's want southish part of the state. So, we're very excited to to begin recruiting that area, and we'll certainly take the city's lead on what you want us to do, how you want us to chase, if we want to wait until it's it's finished being um annexed into the city or if we could move forward on that. Do you want me to keep going? Do you want to go?

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I think I can. You should probably do that because I'm dancing right now. This is Stephanie Pac, associate vice president assigned to the Golden Spike Inland Port, which you are certainly a part of. Go ahead. Yeah, absolutely. Well, I am so grateful for the opportunity to Can you put the speaker over by So, she's got one side. Thank you. So, I'm glad you told us.

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Again, I'm Stephanie Pac. I'm with the Utah Inland Port Authority. I manage our project areas in northern Utah and I'm excited to be able to talk about what's been happening with the Golden Spike project area this last year. We just completed our second year um as a project area working with Tmont City as well as the communities of Garland unincorporated Boxelder County and Bigham City. We are we had a great year this year um with some exciting announcements. We triggered our first parcels in the project area. Um that is for the Lakeshore Learning Project. They had their ribbon cutting earlier this summer as well as uh we had the announcement of New Core Steel locating a new facility in Brigham City. And so with that, uh, we are anticipating an amendment to our project area which will include some new acreage in Willard City. They will be participating in the project area. Uh, but just as a reminder, all of the zones within our project area will remain independent in terms of how we allocate those tax differential dollars. So all of Tremon's money will stay here in Tmont. We've been working really closely with these partners as they've been going through their announcements and as they've been going through their expansions. Um we'll continue to work with the city. Um we're really excited about the opportunities we have with the Harwood zone just outside of the city limits. Uh we've been working really closely with the city as we determine uh the best course of action of of how the city wants to see that area develop. We believe that our financing tools will be a huge benefit to the city as you look

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to bring in hopefully some new projects there in the future. um we'll be prepared to help the city be choosy about what ends up there um and be able to provide the city with the financial means to bring out the infrastructure that is needed to help that new expansion of the city uh get the infrastructure that it needs. Um when it comes to recruitment projects, uh we have a number of active recruitment projects looking at, uh Boxeler County. Today we have about 20 active recruitment projects that have identified Boxeler County as a potential opportunity. Um we anticipate that that number will continue to grow um as we look to identify appropriate partners that are going to be a good fit for Tremont City. Um we are excited about our partnerships uh with Savage um Union Pacific and uh Bailey Farms. they have a lot of opportunities for us to expand the rail usage here in this area. Um, we know that that expansion is is going to take time. It's going to take investment. Uh but we're hopeful that as we expand the under the usage of the rail assets that we have here in the county, it's not only going to benefit new development that's coming to the county, but it'll also help the existing businesses here leverage those logistical assets that they're current that are currently underutilized. So, those were largely the updates that we wanted to provide the city council. Um, we're going to continue to be working on

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wetland preservation here in the county. Uh, percentage of the differential that gets captured will be going towards wetlands preservations um around the county adjacent to our project areas. Um so we'll we look forward to follow up on those projects as the project area matures and um we are excited about the amendment. We have a 12 month amendment cycle. Uh that's an opportunity for communities to change add um to the project area as more opportunities come up. That would be a good fit. Uh but I think the opportunities that we have currently with the city um are are really significant today and uh we're excited to see where things go. So

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we we would be happy to answer any questions that mayor council have. I I I do have a question. Um, can we go back to the uh Lakeshore and the and the expansion and and I'm I'm assuming that Lakeshore is already starting to expand their facility into the Tree Mountain area or did I just misunderstand you?

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So, there is a percentage of the property that does cross over into Tree Mountain boundaries. So, the city should expect to see some new tax revenues coming in from that project as it stands today. um they currently have employed almost 400 employees at that at that facility right now. Um and they have told us that as they expand, as they grow their footprint, which could be years in the future, um we we haven't been told of a timing yet on their expansion, but that expansion will happen in Tmont City. And that from initial was about 400,000 square feet which will be a significant bump to the city.

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And and that's part of the 30 acres that are that come south. Yeah. So part of where they're at,

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correct? Part of the part of the construction is already in Tmont. More to come. And then when we uh look at the Harwood uh project um the question I that keeps coming back as we have our discussions and you know we're just always sort of okay what is it going to be you know it depends on if it's uh if it were um let's just say a food manufacturer that would be a totally different need for infrastructure than say a a warehouse kind of a thing and so I think that's where everybody sort of is holding back a little bit. You know, we're wondering just exactly what it is. So as as you you have these uh projects that are sort of looking at this area you know I think that would be as you know sooner than later that you can let us know what the uh you know what kind of because we you know we're we're coming under going under the freeway with some infrastructure and those things are going to be you know costly and and and all that kind of thing and so we just you know we're just asking for you know and you do you do a good job of keeping us in the loop and everything. So, appreciate that.

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We mayor and yes, we're we're actively recruiting that that area and we'll continue to do so. We don't necessarily have other than what's in the plan and budget uh guidance from the city of exactly what you want, but we'll kind of chase best and highest use. Um the magic of the port authority happens from capital investment. So, a cold storage would be a lot of money, but we also recognize that it's hugely beneficial for the community to have highpaying jobs. And sometimes sometimes you get both and sometimes you get one or the other, a balance between and and let's we're going to work to kind of what what can we get there? What's the best thing there? And it's again, it's a great great spot to have.

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But if if it's a high energy need, it's going to be a little different than a you know, a big a big wastewater user. It's we we get it. Okay. Council, do you have any other questions for as um as manufact we we've had a manufacturer or to express interest in the area? Um did did they get in contact with you either of you? And is that the correct avenue um to to Yes. Who do they talk to when they're send them Stephanie's way every time? Is that what you did? Yeah, that's

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Yeah. So when a project comes um what we would like to do is you know obviously we would want to vet them in partnership with the city to ensure that they fit the plan and budget that we've outlined. You know we want to the great thing about our partnership and the great thing about the tools that we have here in the city is it allows us again as I mentioned before to be a little choosy about what companies we choose to support. um you know, as long as the company fits the zoning in the area, there's not a lot we can do, right? if they make uh a transaction with the land owner, if they become a land owner, if their use is a permitted use, you know, we'll we'll let them, you know, do their business and and make something happen, but we don't have to provide them with those financial tools, if that makes sense. So if they want to come and invest in the community, that's great. But we can pick and choose who we decide to support with those financial tools.

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And and as far as the the do you send them our way, we want to be your administrative agent in this. We we we represent the city. It's a partnership, a collaboration. Um so you say, "Hey, this is something that's worth kicking tires. Can you answer all those 9-to-f5 phone calls, emails?" Absolutely. It's exactly what we want to do. We won't get ahead of you. Stephanie never will. Um, but yes, it's it's tricky being a city councilman mayor.

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We already have a full-time job and now they want you to work another one. We we get it. Well, we appreciate you guys and and all of you know your outreach and and working with these companies and and uh we look forward to uh continuing to work with you and you know it's just going to be a major thing to get in infrastructure over there and and so that's that's kind of where you guys come into play and we appreciate that. Absolutely. Thank you, Mayor Council. Any other questions? Thank you. Thank you. Did you have a question?

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She sounds smarter than I All right, let's uh we'll move on now. And uh are you guys going to are you guys heading out? Um are are we on the agenda for 6:00? Yeah. So yes, I'll be here. Okay. Had some questions for you. That was it. This was it. Oh, hey Stephanie. No, this was it. So, um, have you got a contact for um Well, I'll maybe if you can hang around until I'd I'd like to talk to you a little bit about uh a question I've got.

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Sure. Okay. Thank you. All right. Let's move on here. Um let's see. Uh we're going to discussion and enact discussion on enacting a temporary land use regulation on the acceptance processing and approval of certain land use applications. And I'm guessing this is going to be Jeff. It's going to be you. Okay. All right. We'll turn the time over to Brett.

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Okay. This was a ordinance that we put uh before the city council so they can we can have a discussion on it. Um I've got some talking points here. um the 2002 general. Well, we uh a while ago we had a discussion when we were talking about the outlook um subdivision or reszoning and uh it was suggested that we look back at our general plan and try to update that. So, this is what is generating that discussion. Um our two uh our current plan is outdated from 2002. the city's growth has already significantly exceeded the foundation assumption of that plan. So it makes it quite unreliable for for planning in the future. The 2002 projection for population for 2020 was 9,78 and in 2024 we were at 13,214 and by 2050 we're projected to be around 30,000. So that's a increase of about 173%. So um significant numbers compared to what we had assumed back in 2002. So um the plan outdate is one issue in there. The other issue is naturally what Carl and you guys talked about today and that's our critical infrastructure. uh you know, especially water. The city's infrastructure is aging and under stress, and there's a rising public concern that rapid development is straining infrastructure and resources on water. And so, we talked about it earlier. We had those 815 points. We got to have a proactive approach. You're talking about

58:27 – 1:00:270

updating your plan. That's what this whole discussion is is we need to update the whole city plan. Um, so we're all on board and working towards the same common goal. Um, and residents are concerned that the long-term financial burden for the repair, upkeep, and operation of new infrastructure is passed on them through increased taxes and/or fees. So this ordinance what it would basically do is it would pause zoning map amendments reszones. So for 6 months there we would pause and not allow any changing to any zoning of a piece of property from one district to another. and it changes the ordinance text that would create a new zoning district or significantly alter the density, intensity or types of uses allowed in those areas. Okay, it does not pause um this ordinance does not affect development applications that are fully vetted and working now. Okay. uh we couldn't legitim or legally do that anyway. And so um basically what this ordinance is asking us to to do is take to start with a six-month pause in our resonings and go back go to the drawing board, work with our public and start developing a general plan. and and until we have a general plan, we

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don't lift this um this ordinance. Now, we can go six months, but we can also extend it two more times if we need to up to 18 months. Um however, if in 3 months we have a general plan, we can and it's adopted by the city council, then we can move forward with uh removing this temporary ordinance. Any questions? I I don't I got to explain why. I mean, we have we have to vote on any annexation changes, any voting or uh

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zoning changes. Anyway, I I this seems like we spin our wheels. I mean, I've only been here less than two years, but I don't know. I don't know if that's the I don't know. I don't I can see what they're saying on structure, but if we're putting in the new stuff other than the volume of water, the new stuff's not a problem on for a while on the replacement part, right, Carl? I mean it it so unless it's a volume thing I can see I can see that's a that's something we need to look at but that's just my question. So I would say that part of the problem is is we don't have all these different areas identified as part of our general plan. So, when we do start to build, and I think someone asked it earlier, what happens when we're building a certain area? Do we have the roads? Do we have the water? Do we have everything we need to get to that area? Hopefully, this general plan would start to make sure all that's in place so that we do have those things. When you're when you're referencing the general plan, um are you are you also alluding to the capital improvement plan, the transportation master plan as and you know water and sewer plans. Is that what you're wanting to address or is it the general plan itself? Because the way I understand it, a general plan is a little more vague and more vision setting

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where the capital improvement plan is where, you know, we're talking about some of the concerns that you just raised, right?

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So, I'm less concerned about the general plan. Um, yes, I think we need to update some numbers in the general plan. um you know more into our estimates but it is more of a higher level vision of where we see things going and the and the documents that I'm most concerned about are are the other ones the supplemental ones that feed the general plan you know cuz a lot like I said this the citizens concerns are addressed in those plans in my mind not so much the general plan um so I I think that's where some of my concerns are is you know Is this the only tool that we have um to get what we're trying to get to um or or or there's some other ways that we could address those concerns, those same ones, you know, cuz if we update just the general plan and not those documents, we're still going to have the same concerns. That make sense?

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Yeah, it makes sense. I think that's where our therein lies the problem is our vision and is our vision matching that of what the public feels is our vision are we all coming together and working towards the common good and I'm not feeling that I'm not I'm not hearing that from the public they they feel that our visions uh may be different than theirs but some of these subdivisions don't don't come into our plan. It's when somebody buys that ground or does something. I mean, who could ever have picked where the next one will come. I mean, that's up to these guys. Is there a adequate water line big enough to feed XYZ or and if that's a problem? But we don't know where they are. I mean, we know where some of them's got to finish out, but but like the inland port thing. I mean, we have enough water to run a 12-in line under the freeway, you know, but and I see that part of it, but it's hard. It's going to be hard to I mean, I just hate to get political about we're going to slow it down. So, after all that, we got to I mean, if we don't have enough, we don't have enough. But

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well, and I don't think I don't think your intention is, you know, to to politically slow ourselves down. What What are the What are the concerns that we're trying to address in this specifically? Specifically, we we need to look at our city as a whole. Where do we want the growth to take place? What kind of growth do we want? Where do we want to put that specific type of growth? For example, where do we want multi-ousing? Where do we want um single housing? wherever you want to put. Do we want to identify certain areas that are industrial, other areas that are downtown commercial? And I know all those are in are part of a master

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road plan and all that, but

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and land use plan, right? Cuz isn't that really where the land use plan is where we address that type of, you know, emotion? That's how we control sprawl or density in certain places. So in my mind, it's more about saying, okay, in where in the land use plan are we off? Does that match what the public is hoping for? Again, the general plan would then be updated with some of that that vision or or needs to or the does the land use plan fit the vision of where we're heading with the city, you know? And so I guess what I'm saying is if we're going to address the general plan and take time on that, I just want to make sure that in that motion, we're actually updating the documents that will execute the change, right? Because the land use plan is what allows the vision of where we're headed with zoning, for example.

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Yeah. And the general plan needs to drive the objectives, needs to drive the vision. Okay. So it is a higher level plan. And that's what then you know um our planning commission and and all the employees we can all use that with guiding principles. This is what we want to do as a city and our general plan of 2002 needs to be updated. I went through the uh general plan uh back then in 2002 and and u you know that graduate

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there are issues you there are things there that definitely need to be uh updated and you know their expectations for growth and all of that kind of thing are are severely outdated. Um but you know from a standpoint like like uh Bo was mentioning sort of a a high vision sort of a you know I think that well you know I think there's some things that changed you know they they they emphasized single single family single lot uh housing and uh they did empas you know indicate that they needed to have uh multiple housing and that kind of thing but it was more it was just a different different situ it was a different world back in 2002 when it comes to the the way housing was happening and and all of that kind of thing. uh today it's just because of the markets you know we're looking at uh really a different different situation alto together you know with affordability and all of that kind of thing and so I think whatever whatever the council decides here uh I think we need to address you know what is the market today versus what it was maybe back back in back in the day in 2002 or whenever that 2001 I guess is when they made it and adopted it in 2002. Um, so anyway, you got anything else for us?

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What is the process of updating the general plan like? Obviously, the public's input is critical in that

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and it is going to require uh public public input is going to be really important. Uh, the cost is going to be significant. Uh, anywhere from uh $80,000, this is what we've been told. I I maybe we can get it cheaper. I don't know. We've been told anywhere from 80,000 to $120,000 to uh update or upgrade update the master plan. Uh if we want to just sort of update the numbers and update some of the information in there, that's going to be less. If we want a full-fledged uh master plan, it's going to be something more. But uh somewhere in that 80 to, you know, 80,000 up. What's the time frame on them?

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Um, I think that I don't know if Jeff, did you were you able to get any information on that on the time frame uh to have that redone? Okay. So, we we don't know that at this point. If we take a citizen-entric approach on this, however, it, you know, it's going to take a lot of input, a lot of uh public input, a lot of involvement. Um, there's been some really good models done throughout the country where they've been very successful with doing this and um it it could be a tool to help bring our community together and keep it together.

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Good point. Do you have anything else? Brett, thank you very much for uh all the work you've done on putting that together and and uh we'll address that later uh later this evening uh in our policy session. I I have one question before it. Yeah.

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Does that go when they do that? Do they have all the regulations the state federal regulations they have on like the state has so much you have to have so much of this or that? Is that all going to be taken effect on? Cuz I can guarantee you that I don't want a a big apartment complex by my house, but nobody nobody else does. So somewhere there's going to be some apartment complexes. So you know what I'm saying? So I mean that's there's a whole lot to it. And I don't know.

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Yeah. not 100% sure what you're talking about resources. That's where I would place them. Thank you. We'll have some um time for some public comment a little bit later. So, we're just here for the first time, so your system. Okay. Well, thank you for coming. Yeah, we'll we're just going through the uh kind of going through the agenda here and uh when we get into the policy session, there'll be time for you to make some comments. Sure. So, we just listen. You can.

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Yeah, just listen. Uhhuh. All right. Um, let's see. Let's all we have as far as workshop. Let's go through the agenda. Um, council and and um let's see uh on the agenda. Let's see. Uh conflicts of interest. We'll go through that and and uh discuss that. But there is one change to the uh agenda for this evening. and I'd appreciate it if we could uh have that one change made. Um so what we need to do is uh item number C down on under new council business. Item C uh that mutual water supply agreement uh it needs to be taken off the agenda. So we we won't be addressing that this evening. And I'd appreciate it whoever uh motions to accept the agenda if you'll take item C off. off of that agenda. Let's see. Um, so we got Jaden Hazard. We, uh, police sergeant. We're going to award there. Let's see. Let's go down to uh, I'm going to I'm going to share some information on uh, water usage that I think will be very helpful. uh kind of bring everybody up to speed on on the impact of secondary water on our culinary water supply. Um and then um the wellness garden for uh uh Boxelder County uh the suicide prevention coalition, Linda Kowana, she'll do a presentation. Then we have um let's just go through the agenda and make sure that we uh understand. and maybe that'll kind of help us as we go through we can move a little faster, maybe have some of the questions answered here. Uh item A,

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discussion and consideration of approving resolution number 25-47 amending section 2 purchasing and policy and contracts of the city city's personnel policies and procedures manual. And so uh Lindsay, are you going to kind of talk about that? Can you just give us a overview? Yeah, just one change. Um, I didn't get our payroll administrator on there the last time we updated this as somebody who can sign POS, so we added her. And then we also are allowing for stamped signatures. I guess we've got some department heads that use a stamp that we've never had a policy in place. So, we thought we better get a policy in place to make that legal. They're using their stamp. So, that's all it is. Just those two changes.

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Couple of simple changes. Good. No autopin, right? 10. All right. discussion and consideration of approving resolution number 25-48 creating a new water supply use type and reaffirming oh excuse me a amending and enacting new fees and fines in a schedule entitled the Tree Mountain City consolidated fees fines schedule including collecting collection fees and I think this is you Carl isn't it and you just want to give us a little update on that and answer any questions questions.

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Yeah, please. Yeah, so we can so that people can hear. This creates a a formal way to uh have contractors and temporary water users, usually doing construction, that kind of thing, to to pay for the water. um to quantify amounts that that they're allowed to take instead of just filling at, you know, from a hydrant or wherever they fill from us. It'll then, you know, we feel like they should have to pay for that use and also that it should be metered and uh that it should be a little bit more strictly controlled and this will allow us to do all three of those things.

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Sounds like a good thing. Yep. B. Hey Carl. Yeah. Are we going to make them use uh secondary water instead of culinary? We will have two designated fill stations. One will be secondary water, one will be culinary. We will try to use as much of the secondary water as we can during the time period that that's available. And is there a price difference in it?

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There's not. It's the same price. It's tied to the usage of 100,000 gallons per month of culinary water and it remains whatever. So if that rate changes then the len the way that this is written um that amount will change as well. Right now for 100,000 g gallons uh a month it's $2514 for contractors and that kind of thing who I doubt will actually use 100,000 gallons anyways. That's pretty cheap water. Why is this so cheap? Why are we uh how come I pay more for 100,000 gallons than a contractor that goes and puts it on dirt? Currently, they're paying nothing. So, this will level the playing field. Wes, this is a good thing.

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Cool. Any other questions for Carl? Why don't you uh why don't let's see. We have Okay, we're going to do not do C. So, um I think that was everything was Oh, the vector truck. Vector truck. I'll talk about that. Yeah, if you can talk about that. Well, you could stay. You You could have stayed there. Why don't Because we're going to skip seat. We move on to move on to the vector truck there. Sorry, I should have made that a little more clear. Oh,

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we want a Vector truck. We approved We approved it in uh it's it's been approved budget-wise. We're significantly under budget. We we budgeted the Taj Mahal of factory trucks and then did more research and have some better numbers and actually came up with something that we like uh design-wise and options wise the most and it ended up being the least expensive option. Um all of all of it have the same all three quotes that I got have the same chassis. It's a Freightlininer chassis which can be serviced locally. It's just the vector portion. There you go. That uh there's in my opinion some of them are are gouging people at those prices. So we're I would like to ask for support for uh the council to have us purchase the super products model. It's it is the least expensive, but it really is the one that we like the most. There a wait on it or do you

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uh four month three months? They they they are I have pressed and pressed and pressed truck month. That's not We're not creating a new a new month type. We're creating a new water use type. Let's not create new truck month. That sounds naughty based off history, right? Yeah. Gas.

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All right. Cool. Cool. Thank you very much. Okay, let's see. Uh, let's move on to item number E. Discussion and consideration of approving ordinance number 25-17 granting an electrical utility franchise and general utility easement to Rocky Mountain Power. Is that coming back to you, Lindsay? Well, Russ from Rocky Mountain Power will be here at the 7:00 meeting today. Okay. So, we can we'll we'll just the attorneys review it. It's the same or the same ordinance we've had in place for since 200 for a specific area or just everywhere? No, it's just everywhere. Yeah. Okay. And they'll be here

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the policy session. Okay. All right. Uh then discussion and consideration of approving ordinance number 25-18 enacting a temporary land use regulation on acceptance, processing, and approval of certain land use applications. And that comes back to what Brett was just talking about. Brett, do you have anything else you want to add to that or or we just wait until we go? Okay, very good. All right. Um, can I ask more questions about that? Yeah, we have the time, right? We do. We have time. Well, I just I just really want to zoom in on what's driving that um the the desire to do that and make sure that we address that.

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You know, if there's public concerns, we need to we need to zoom in on them, right? And so if we could spend some more time, the more context we can have before we go into a vote for that, that would be great. Do you mind elaborating some of the other concerns? And so, you know, land use was one. Sounds like the zoning, the current land use plan needs some amendments. Um, is it every capital improvement plan too? Is you know what I mean? And

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it's it's the general look of what we want to do with our city. Okay. It's it what is our what is our focus, you know, from 2002 to today, has that changed? I would suspect so. And um I think the public want to be part of that. Yeah. And this would give them that chance to help drive that vision. and um and we're getting a lot of input that people want to do that now. I think there's a there's a general concern around multifamily housing and affordability, right? That's something that which is two different problems.

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Well, well, and I hear citizens from both sides saying, "Please make housing affordable for me." And then I also hear the other side of please do. I've heard I've even heard apartments called riffraff, keep the riff raff away, which I disagree with and is strong, but you know, I so I I definitely do think that the public's input on that their vision of affordable housing, what what do what do we do in this current situation? Because both sides of the argument are coming to our desk right now very strongly. Actually, I received a letter from a family that felt very strongly one way and a letter from another family that felt vehematly strong in the other direction. So maybe some surveys would be helpful there understanding that and and it just feels like I don't know since oh last five years people we just been asked to pause slow down a little slow down's not the right word but pause and get ourselves together instead of just putting subdivisions wherever people are asking to put them What's what's the sense to that? What's the structure? You know, what do we have everything in place to to prepare for that? Is our infrastructure ready? um you know, with all these plans that they're coming up and and the need to upsize lines and and prepare for our growth, are we ready to do that now or this general plan will help us decide, wait a minute, we need to make sure these pieces are in place before we move on to that that area of the of the city. And

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it sure would be nice if we had a guiding document with some uh guiding principles that says this is our vision. This is what we believe in and this is what's going to drive our city in the future. And we don't have that right now. So I I I can see that. I'm just saying what what's makes it hold you know we can put it together but what makes it hold that when somebody else wants something else. I you know what I'm saying? If I mean do we have the right to say okay XYZ area will be just this or that and does that even hold any so the land use plan would would embody that.

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Mhm. Yeah. Well you could say what it is but legally can you say that? Can you say no? We're not zone that way. You can say no. Absolutely. Well, but the zoning like we just determined since 2002, it's going to change. It's going to change in 10 years. The the whole what's needed and what's not. I I just I'm not saying we don't need it. I'm not saying I'm just worried that we and get everybody and do this plan and and by the time the plan goes we none of us will probably be here. But does the plan hold does it have teeth with it to say no or that's the plan?

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Well, it needs to be organic and this one hasn't been. You know, right? This plan hasn't grown and and so part of this plan needs to grow with the city and that's part of what the problem's been. Well, see the general plan and I think what you're saying is the general plan was 20 how many years ago? 23

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the year I graduated. So, it's been 23 years and we haven't updated the general plan in any way, right? Are there is it necessary to spend $80 to $100,000 to update the general plan or is it something that we using surveys etc could do because the general plan is more visionary, right? It's more setting aligning the vision of where we want to go. the land use plan is what actually makes the changes for zoning around that that higher vision. So, I just almost feel like we might, you know, somewhat be putting cart before the horse of I'd love to get I'd love to get that up to date, but is it the only tool that we have right now? to your point, you know, there there can be

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don't we have a roads plan or a Yeah, at this point master plan where the Yeah, transportation master plan. So, that's got to obviously be in with it. I just I I'm not saying we don't need it. I'm just saying what makes it what makes it hold steady, what makes you

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and and so do it. and and we have a a transportation plan, right? And we got this road going all the way at 1,00 north and we have all these roads feeding to it, but at what point is it okay to now start putting in a huge subdivision that has no support supporting infrastructure to it? Or do we need to make sure those roads and those other places and the infrastructure is in place to support the project coming in? And that's what this general plan helps us do. And that's what our are in combination with the other plans. Right now, growth has hit us so fast that we're putting in subdivisions and we're we're trying to catch up with our infrastructure and it's putting a lot of stress on our system and it's getting harder and harder to maintain our current systems because we don't have the revenues coming in to keep ourselves up to date with what we already have. And so I I I get concerned about that. And then the other the part of this general plan needs to to consider the things like fire and police and all of the the safety features. What happens when we start adding a thousand people to the city? Are we are we hiring the appropriate amount of police officers? And are we keeping ourselves safe? You know, there's a lot to consider when we start to grow. And I don't know that our current plan is taking those things into consideration. And I those are the things that need to be discussed as part of our vision as Tremont and city and and you know we can sit back and say well we'll address as as they do but we haven't. I think I think the only place I'm getting caught up because I completely agree with you. Um, having all of that together, that's why I've been saying like the capital improvement

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plan is so important, right? If we don't have that, then how are we making resoning decisions without a capital improvement uh 5-year projection of what's going to be needed? Right? That that that's why I've been saying that um the general plan is more visionary. the capital improvement plan is really where that rubber meets the road. So, I'm I'm not arguing that we should not update the general plan cuz I think we absolutely should. Um that why why not other than the cost. So that's what I'm really trying to understand is just what is the process of updating a general plan because every time I get really specific about the why to address citizens concerns, it comes back to the other ancillary plans that feed the general plan, not so much the big vision plan because I think a lot of the citizens share the same vision of what Tmont City is going to be. But I do see some conflict between some of the the proposed developments and that they are conflicting with the current land use plan. Right. But that's the land use plan that needs updating, not if if we feel that there's conflict there, not necessarily the general plan. Um although it wouldn't hurt to update the general plan because I think we should, but if it's a $100,000 cost, would that be the most prudent thing with our funds right now?

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You know, and that's That's a numbers vote. Yeah. Well, I guess my question is this is Brandon. Oh, Brandon.

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What's what are the guiding principles for the land use plan? What are the guiding principles for the capital improvement plan? Water and sewer transportation. Where do those particular plans work direct where do they receive direction? And that's where I'm concerned as well. I'm coming with Brett ears. There ought to be these guiding principles in the in the master general plan that helps to direct and uh give solutions or direction to all these areas that are more detailed and I'm not as you know well-versed in in all the things you guys are talking about, but it does feel like where do where do these additional divisions get get their direction? And I fear that we don't have that in place.

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And I think that if we go through and identify those in a general plan, a document that all the other ones feed off of, then now we're bringing everyone together and we're we're working as one unit to create a vision. you know, each one of our plans now have been developed with good intent, but it's like Brandon said, um, do we have a guiding principle or vision that's driving all of them towards the same focus, towards the same vision? And I don't know that we do.

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I I've only been a year and a half, but some of you have been here a long time. I mean, what what have we been doing that way? just winging it on the I mean

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well I that's I guess that's why I'm having the friction here on the general plan cuz I feel like the general plan generally is feeding those principles. So I've referred to it quite a bit. In fact, I have an AI tool that takes an ordinance and feeds it through and says how does this compare against the general plan. So and we're not I don't feel like as a vision document we're too far off of those guiding principles. Where I think we're lacking is does the capital improvement plan align with our general plan? Do we need to update the numbers of population etc? Yes. But where I think we're off is in those those ancillary plans. I don't think the general plan is too far off. I think the plan that the plans that align with the general plan are where we're off. That that's all I'm trying to get to. I got to kind of agree with Bo on that too from my point of view.

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Yeah. I I think I think what I'm getting here is is I I I would just like to see us take the time to focus and bring everything together into a vision and then move forward. And that that's where I'm headed with this. And I think that if we can put a pause and give our planning commission and and all them some um a vision to work on. uh th this would be good, you know, and then then when they start going up and having these discussions on zoning, hopefully the plan, the land use plan can define this is what a zone should look like and and stay. And then when a developer comes in and wants to develop land and they want to increase the density on that, well, we've already had those discussions and that's not part of our land use plan. And so they know that right up front when they start to have those discussions. And uh it would take quite an act to change that if if we're all focused on this wonderful plan. You know, what are we going to do with our city? Because, you know, I can get more around the idea of a pause if it's waiting for capital improvement plan, transportation master plan, water and sewer plan. Now, I can get my head around putting a pause. Well, those identified in there, you know, to a point, you know, and

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yeah, and make sure that they they so so if we if we make sure that those are aligned with our current vision that was set 23 years ago, cuz I don't know. I mean, I think a lot of residents that live here would like to to honor a lot of the things that were in that plan. Unless there's specific plan things in the general plan that we disagree with, I don't know that there are many where where I think we misalign like I said is that the land use plan is is isn't so much aligning with that document. We've we've strayed in our execution of the items that that feed the guiding principles that of what we want this city to be. Does that make sense? That's kind of where my head's at. So, it's more the the feeding documents, then I could get on board because like the capital improvement, how do we make decisions if we it's reckless to approve and modify zoning to when we are not sure that we're going to be able to have the infrastructure to to take care of it.

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Correct. So that's a capital improvement plan adjustment needs to be made, you know, so which feeds the general plan. Yeah. Yeah. So I can get on that. We're talking the same thing. I think we are other than I just don't want to tie because this ordinance is referencing an update to the general plan.

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Well, scroll down a little bit further on it. Um, keep going. Keep going. um um a comp an update of general facilities plan elements. So see in here this is where a lot of that and we could even add that in there you know but we need to make sure that these pieces are included in that general plan. And so this is where we would go in and make sure that our road our road plan and our capital asset plan and all uh that make sure that they're all God. You just want them all to be focused on this one vision.

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Yep. [Music] It could be. Is is there any concern? What is is there concern from the the body that 6 months is too long or it can be extended twice? Is there fear there, Bo, that's causing you a little bit of pause as well? Is that something that we ought to talk about? I mean, no. I It's more the the the the cost spending $100,000 to have a general plan updated. Um

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Yeah. when when it's a very theoretical document, but if it's Yeah. If it's these ancillaries, then I I completely agree with that. I mean, what's driving that cost? Is it lawyer fees, Brett? Do you not

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the uh that's the quote that we were we we uh looked into the cost of putting together a general plan and that's what we were quoted anywhere from 100 to $120,000 depending on how in-depth we want to be. If one want to just update the current plan, uh it'd be less uh more involvement clearly would be more uh just the cost of doing this kind of um uh work. That's that's the quote that we were given. So that's what we have to go on right now.

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And I think if if we're if we work with our public and we we um we get them involved, we've got a lot of experts in this community. they can come through and we can we can really develop a nice plan and then have it all ready to take to an entity like this and it would drastically reduce the amount of time they're spending on it. Just having public alignment alone is worth the investment, right? I I think that's really important, but it it's a it's a cost. I think part of the fee includes all the public involvement,

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the surveys, I believe so the company I just said that would be the company doing that, not us, the public involvement. That would be part of their fee as I as I understand it. And do we and we don't know a timeline on what it takes to get those done. We haven't been given that information yet. Wouldn't that context be relevant? More months. Yeah. Nine months. Oh, okay. At least six months. Remember, do you feel that context is critical knowing how long it would take

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before freezing all zoning changes?

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I I just hope that's not what's driving it. I think we need it, but if I hope it's all the input isn't just to freeze particular area. Not not that we don't do it, but you know what I'm not not on your part. I'm just saying the whole Blair. This does not freeze that area up there. It doesn't because that's already applied for. We can't touch that. So, this has nothing to do with the plan would be good. I just worry that it's has liberty went later. I don't know. And I guess you got to start somewhere.

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Yeah. And I guess a question I have uh we have uh several businesses that are looking at uh uh relocating in this area. Would that involve would that hinder the progress of those uh businesses looking to come in? I wouldn't think so. I think we're already zoned for them. Right. What what would happen in annexation? you know, even things like uh even things like the U inland port and that we just had a presentation on that. I'm just asking, you know, so we know where we're standing. Well, zoning happens on annexation, right? Annexation that could that could delay that inland port progress.

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Well, would but but if something's annexed in I I didn't look at that in this I did read it in depth, but I didn't look at the annexation. Does it it doesn't state annexation. You could add it if you want, but it doesn't state anything to do with annexation. So, what happens in with this particular document, if we wanted to annex the inland port, we would go do that and then we would zone it appropriately because this doesn't touch anything. But then once that zone is set, you don't change it. Yeah, it's set. Okay. And so that's what this document does is freeze that zoning. Yeah.

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I think you answered a lot of questions. What's that? Thank you. Okay. Uh let's see. Let's Do you have anything else on that? No. Unless you guys have more questions.

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Um let's let's move on just a little bit. And um we did make one little change. Uh we uh under the reports and comments, we're just going to have that to be the uh council reports. Uh we've wanted to have our directors uh send out uh a monthly update to the council so that you know what's going on, but we don't need to maybe having it here at the council meetings. Sometimes our council meetings start to get a little long and and that kind of thing. So we're going to try it this way for a little while and see how it works. Um so the directors, they'll be sending us uh mayor and council members updates once a month on that. So, uh, oh, um, one major I forgot. Uh, we are appointing a new Tmont Justice Court judge, uh, this evening. Um, uh, Dustin Ericson, who has been our prosecuting attorney for many years, uh, is, uh, he was made the, uh, Boxelder County Justice Court Judge. and and tonight we'll have if that's what the con council agrees to do uh we'll appoint him to be our Tree Mountain City Justice Court Judge. So that's kind of we're excited about that and I think that's all I have unless council you've got any other comments. Let's uh take a 15minut break and we'll start at 7 o'clock. Thank you everybody.

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Um, okay. We'd like to welcome everybody out to our council uh policy session, city council policy session this evening. Um, we're just a minute or two late, but um, we're going to go ahead and get started. Uh we are I've asked uh council member Roodie if he would uh give us a prayer and then I'll offer the pledge and we'll go to that point.

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Our heavenly father, we're grateful for this opportunity to meet tonight. We're thankful for the opportunity we have to serve and to represent the many constituents of our great city. We ask that we can have a great meeting tonight. That we can treat each other with dignity and respect. We ask that special blessing to be upon our safety officers, upon our police, and especially upon our country. Help us as we're mending and

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trying to come together and answer questions. that we know it's through thee that we'll receive these answers and we do so in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen. Amen.

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Will the audience rise please and repeat the pledge of allegiance after me? I pledge aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Um, I'll just quickly we have uh several uh people here uh that aren't uh here regularly. So, I'm just going to go through and just kind of introduce everybody so you know who we who we are. Over to my left over here is our uh interim city manager, Lindsay Nessen. And then we have uh Brandon Von who is uh tuning in o over Zoom and Boh Bo Lewis, Blair Westergard, uh myself, Lyall Homegrren, Brett Roie, U West is also tuning in online and um then we have Cynthia Nelson who is our recorder and Chief Cordova is out in the uh foyer, I believe. Uh I think Chief Jarro is here. I can't rem I didn't see him, but he may be. Um, and we have a special guest with us this evening, Linda Bourne. Mayor Linda Bourne from Garland. We're grateful that you're here with us this evening, Linda. Um, let's see then. Um, we have some special guests also. Uh, we have a Lynette Sornson, um, Mike Alred who's out there with Azula. And I was looking for Britney. I didn't see Britney here. Um maybe she's out in the forer. But anyway, we're we're grateful that you're here with us this evening. Okay, council. Um we have uh uh are there any conflicts of

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interest with the agenda that we have here tonight? Council? No. Hearing none, we'll go ahead and approve the agenda. And I remind you with the one change I make a motion we approve the agenda by but excluding item C. Okay. Won't be doing that tonight. Okay. U motion by Blair. Do I have a second? Seconded by second. Uh seconded by Brett Brett and also by Wes. All in favor? Yes. Yes. Yes.

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Okay. Approval of the minutes from August 26th, uh, 2025. A motion to Is there any questions or anything with the minutes? I'll make a motion that we approve the minutes from August 26, 2025. Motion by Bo Lewis, Council Member Bo Lewis. Uh, do I have a second? I'll second it. Seconded by Brett uh, Rodie. Uh, all in favor? Yes. Yes.

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Okay. Very good. Uh we have a years of service award uh this evening for uh officer Jason our Jaden Hazard. Uh well Sergeant Jason Hazard I apologize. Uh this will be a five-year recognition and I don't know if uh okay there you going to do that. [Music]

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Come on up. He loves to be in the spotlight, so I didn't want to cheat him. So, Jaden has pretty much been a rising star in our organization. He's been here for the last 5 years, obviously. Um, couple things about him. He's he's lived in Tmont for how many years? For five.

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For five years. His his wife and him have been married for eight years. They have three beautiful kids right there and his wife. um they enjoy camping, riding horses, and hiking. Uh in our department, he's done a lot of great things. He's worked in patrol as an officer, SWAT operator. Uh he was a strike force agent, training coordinator, firearm instructor, and now patrol sergeant. Um Jaden is amazing. We're lucky to have him and I'm happy to be here. He's got a lot of cool stuff here. I'm not going to read it all cuz I saw the agenda and I just want to be respectful. One thing I am going to read though because I'm a nerd is his favorite quote. He it's it's uh some believe it is only great power that can hold evil in check. But that is not what I have found. It is the small everyday deeds of ordinary folk that keep the darkness at bay. And that was Gandalf of Lord of the Rings. So super cool. Um but Jaden, thanks for all you do, man. We we greatly appreciate you. Is there anything you want to say to the council?

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No, thank you.

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All right, brother. Thanks, Jade. All right. Um, we have kind of a special uh honor that we wanted to move on to tonight. Uh before we do that, there's a a little video clip I wanted to play and uh that'll kind of introduce us to the rest of this. bottom left.

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Yep. [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] President Utah is a quiet town in the bar river It's the kind of place where folks wave as they walk past, where neighbors look out for each other, and where life feels far from the noise and the chaos of other parts of the country. But on Sunday, August 17th, that peace was shattered. Sergeant Least Army Officer Eric Estrada, two devoted public servants, responded to a domestic disturbance call. In the line of duty, both were shot and killed while protecting their community. Their loss has left a hole, not just in the families, but in Tmont and across Utah.

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Earlier today, we laid a wreath at the tomb of the unknown soldier in their honor. It was a humbling reminder that sacrifice, whether on for battlefields or the quiet streets of our towns, is what preserves our freedom. We all know policing is never easy. Officers step into the unknown, often with seconds or less, to decide between life and death. Domestic calls are among the most dangerous. That night in tree bomb, Leonard faced lethal fire. Yet their courage saved lives. Sergeant Sornson and Officer Strada will not be forgotten. Their service, their laughter, their sacrifice live on in us. May we honor them not only with their words but with action of their examples. As was mentioned earlier, we have um Lynette Sornson with us this evening and we have Michael Red, uh Deputy Mike Alred, and uh Azula, his service dog. And uh I also want to recognize Britney Estrada. I don't think she's here with us this evening, but we still want to recognize her. I have a proclamation that we want to share with uh with the community. And uh I'll go ahead and get this going. Um, a a proclamation from the city of Trumont, Utah, honoring the sacrifice and bravery of Sergeant Lee Sorenson, Officer Eric Estrada, Sheriff's Deputy Mike Holl, and K9 Azula,

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and recognizing the ongoing fight against domestic violence. Whereas the city of Tmont and its citizens are grieving the tra the tragic loss of Sergeant Lee Sasonson and officer Eric Estrada of the Trumont and Garland Police Department and the wounding of Boxella County Sheriff's Deputy Mike Alred and K9 Officer Azula in the line of duty. And whereas these officers and K9 Azula served as served with honor and courage and selfless dedic dedication standing in as guardians of peace and protectors of our community. And whereas Sarah Sergeant Sasonson, Officer Estrada, Deputy Alred, and K9 Hzula exemplified the highest ideals ideals of public safety and law enforcement, responding with bravery in the face of grave danger. And whereas families of the families, loved ones, and colleagues of these heroes carry the deep sorrow of of their sacrifice, but also enduring legacy of their service, commitment, and love for the community they protected. And whereas this tragedy arose from the terrible reality of domestic violence, a crisis that devastates devastates lives, tears, tears families apart, and far too often places victims and first responders at risk. And whereas the city of Tmont recognizes the urgent need to raise awareness of domestic violence, provide pro uh support and provide support to survivors and work tirelessly with law enforcement and community partners to prevent f for future tragedies. Now therefore, I Lyall Hungry, Mayor of Tmont City, together with Tmont City Council, do hereby proclaim that Sergeant Lee Sorenson,

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Officer Eric Estrada, uh, Deputy Mike Holl, and K9 Azula are recognized, honored, and remembered for their bravery and sacrifice in the line of duty. Number two, that the city of Tmont extends its deepest cons condolences and unwavering support to their families, fellow officers, and those who grieve their loss. And number three, that the city of Tmont reaffirms its commitment to combat combating domestic violence by supporting survivors, raising awareness, and working in unity to build a safer community for us all. I um I appreciate uh the families being here with us tonight and uh reaffirm that our commitment to um to our appreciation to the these families and also our commitment to uh combat domestic violence in our community. So, with that, [Music] I guess uh council, I just um I'd like to uh get uh some sort of a um motion that we we proclaim uh make this proclamation for the families and it would just a motion. I absolutely motion that we honor them with this proclamation.

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I second it. Motion by motion by Bo and seconded by Brett and Blair. All in favor? Yes. Yes. Yes.

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Thank you everybody. Thank you so much. Okay. Uh, can we have can we have Lynette and and uh Mike, are you and Azula? We need Azula in here. Uh, why don't you bring Mike and Aula and Lynette? Lynette, could you just stand? So, You guys want to come up here? We'll get a picture. [Music] [Music] [Music] down here.

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What? I'm not going to shake his head. You want to stand there? I'll get your picture. Yes.

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Thank you. Thank you. [Music] Okay. Um let's move on here. We have a present two couple of presentations. Um one on water usage. Uh let me bring that one up. So, uh, there's been a lot of there's been a lot of questions in our community about, uh, water and and, uh, these are valid questions and I wanted to try to, uh, sort of give a little history and maybe, uh, some, uh, asurances that water supply is is good. Uh, go ahead and change it. Okay. So, what got this all started and and uh Brett remembers this. Uh he was on the council back back in the back in 2018 and and we had a week where uh during that week, if you look at the graph, the chart, I'll just try try to explain it to you. The bottom line is secondary water. The blue line is culinary and the green line is just a combination of the two. So in so if you just kind of pay attention to the blue line oh and then that the hashed line on

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the top the red hashed line is our capacity the city's capacity uh and the uh bottom line is kind of where we our baseline is more or less what that is. And so what we have here in uh 2018 is we had about a week or maybe two two weeks week and a half or two weeks where our water supply actually exceeded our capacity. And the reason why we didn't run out of water that during those couple of weeks was because of our our storage capacity and everything, but we did run over uh our capacity for a week and a half or so. And uh we were told by the uh city engineer that uh you need to fix this or we're going to have to uh you know things will have to change and we won't be able to you know we won't be able to go any further. Okay. Go ahead. So let's uh so at that time I remember those discussions back in the day and I think Brett probably does too where we we had to make some serious decision as to what we're going to do as far as as water our water supply and everything. And so uh one of the things we looked at was that uh Tree Mountain has a com a compared to a lot of other communities around here where uh we actually are surrounded. We have canals that run through our city and around our city and and so uh that's one of the advantages we had. So what we decided as a as a council was we were going to seriously develop a secondary water system in our city and we wanted this system to be citywide. Okay. Go ahead. And so in the process of all of this, we were able to go out and we were able to uh uh secure some grant funding. Uh actually the 4.5 also includes some

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culinary use but uh we we were able to secure uh about 4.5 million in in uh secondary in uh grant funding plus we also bonded uh uh do did a citywide bond and and to get money for secondary water infrastructure. And uh this really what this has done is it's protected uh the city's culinary use and also provided space for us to uh look at additional commercial businesses and households coming into the area. Okay. And and one of the things that we wanted to do is we wanted to make sure as we were moving along here that we um we were good neighbors with the canal company and also we wanted to make sure that we're good neighbors with uh uh farmers because they rely on the on the canal system too. And and if you're if you understand how farming works uh how the irrigation system works uh farmers receive a a turn based on how many shares of water they have once a week. and uh you know and so the the residents don't work on a on a turn sort of a thing. They they can turn the water on any time. So what we had to do is we had to develop a what's called an equalization basin. Okay. Go ahead. And these equalization basins what they basically do is make sure that the farmers downstream that their water isn't hindered by the use of secondary water. So they fill up during the daytime when typically households are not watering uh with secondary water and then release water into the uh canal system uh when demand when secondary demand is high and then they just release that water back into the canal system equalizing the flow of the water downstream. Okay. And so another thing we looked at

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doing is we're developing what's called an aqua first storage and recovery system. and ASR. And really all this is is a way for us to uh capture our uh spring water. We have a a good supply of spring water over on the Deweyville Mountain and uh it flows year round. uh the demand is really high high in the summertime and uh the the whole idea of the aquafer the ASR system is to capture that water in the winter time when demand is low put it up into a city-owned aquifer and then recover that water later in the in a year in summertime when demand for uh culinary water is high. Okay. And so anyway, those are the kind of the things we got going and and we're developing and and so in 2022, uh you can see here that uh the the blue the blue line there's plenty of capacity uh between um the blue line and the red hashed line. And as and so as as time goes on and we're going to move on and go on to the next one. And so in 2024, uh this really started to take effect. we really started to building ourselves some capacity uh and and the reason why is because more and more people are utilizing secondary water and uh okay go ahead and then this is this year so um we we have it have the data through September and you can kind of see that uh our secondary water usage is continuing to go up and and um anyway I think it was make it's this was a great decision by the council back in the day to move forward to this direction and I think as a result we're we're we're ensured ourselves capacity for some time to

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come. Go ahead. Okay. And uh so here are the impacts. Um so we have uh this year the the shaded in area is our culinary water use from 2024 and then the line is our secondary water our culinary plus secondary water use. So the combination of the two the area in between the white area is the uh savings. Okay. So, uh, because of the secondary water, uh, Tree Mountain saved, uh, almost 200 million gallons of culinary water in 2024. So, I feel like that's a pretty good impact. And then we're well on our way for this year. Uh, we don't quite have all the data collected yet, but, uh, we we're well on our way to at least that much again this year. So, I just wanted to give that report on our uh secondary water system and and where we're at.

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Mayor. Yeah. May I uh you're two slides back. I think that was I think that was a real good graphic because it showed the red line our Yeah, that one right. Mhm. Um, and it's important that people know that that purple line is if we didn't have secondary, that's where we would have been. So, yeah, because of secondary, um, we never ever got close to that red line, which was um, uh, it Yeah. Yeah, that's the line. So, everything above the red line, had we not come in and put secondary, then we would have been in trouble those during that time. And so,

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Exactly. Right. Uh the blue is as high as we've ever we ever gotten. So I think that it's a good graph. Yeah. Thank you. All right. Let's see. Let me go back over here. I just wanted to give that little update so that uh uh had any lots of questions about uh water supplies. So ally let's see uh the wellness garden. Uh Linda, there we are. This is Jory Zver who is actually the head of this. Okay. I just dropped in to put us on agenda. Thanks for coming you guys.

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You're welcome. I am Dorene Stever with the Northern Boxelder County Suicide Prevention Coalition and thank you for giving us a few minutes. I'd like to just remind everybody that September is the National Suicide Prevention Awareness Month. And this is vital because it helps us address the serious public health crisis by by raising awareness, fighting stigma, educating the public on warning signs, and providing hope to those in need. It provides a dedicated time for organizations, communities, and individuals to unite and focus on suicide prevention efforts. Mental health issues like suicide thoughts often carry a heavy stigma which can make people feel ashamed, isolate, isolated, and less likely to seek help. Awareness campaigns promote open and honest communications about mental health and suicide, helping to create a safer, more supportive environment by talking about the realities of suicide. The month helps normalize conversations by making it easier for people to share their struggles without fear of judgment. our coalition which we it's been going about 15 years now. One of our main objectives back in the time was to let people know it's okay to ask for help and as you know we live in a wonderful community community but we have very limited mental health resources. We have our Bear River Health Department which is wonderful. They do a little bit in help talking about prevention and they work great with the court systems. We also have Bear River Mental Health. Again, a fantastic organization, but they work with a certain clientele. And as most of you know, we don't have a lot of mental health professionals for people to go. When we have somebody approach us about they're struggling

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with a family member, they're worried about this or that. The one thing that we tell them is to go to their family or their primary care physician and they they do and they go in talk a little bit and usually they're always referred to please go talk with somebody get in to see somebody. So they attempt they go home they start looking for where to go. Well there's not anybody in our area so they look to Ogden they look to Salt Lake they look maybe to Logan sometimes farther. And when they do reach somebody, they are told, "Well, you're talking four to six months before we can actually get you in." And that is so frustrating for families. So that's kind of where our coalition came up with the community oasis wellness garden. Green spaces are vital for mental health because they provide psychological restoration by reducing stress hormones like cortisol and increasing happiness inducing neurotransmitters. Access to nature also boosts cognitive sorry functions, promotes physical activity, provides opportunities for social interaction and community connection and it helps regulate sleep cycles through exposure of natural light. Regular exposure to green spaces is linked to lower rates of depression, anxiety, and other psychiatric disorders and contributes to the overall happiness and well-being. And so that's why we feel like this is so important for us to ask for your support in our garden. And the garden though it's located in Garland is for the entire community. Over the last couple weeks, we have noticed more people walking our figure eight path. And you can figure out why very easily. And so we want you to again support and

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support it in volunteering or in money or just support by spreading the word how important this green space is. And though it looks a little rough right now, in a couple years it really is going to be great. So, what I'd kind of like to leave everybody with is number one, it's okay to take some time for yourself, especially with what our community's gone through. It's okay to ask for help. It's okay to talk to someone that you're worried about, and it's okay to talk about suicide. So, thank you.

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Thank you so much. All right. Uh let's move on to our public comments period. This is an opportunity to address city council regarding your concerns or ideas that are relevant uh or germaine to uh municipal business. And we're asking uh you to keep your comments to under three minutes. 3 minutes or less. The time is now yours. Right. [Music] Three minutes. I got a list. Hopefully you guys can listen fast, too.

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Okay. Um Okay. So, the survey thing. Oh, yeah. Can you give us your name, please?

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Sure. Leah Heisy. So, uh engaged Treemont is kind of like an idea or you put on the website and have a question a week like a survey things that you guys are considering pondering and just get public's idea. um doesn't take much time and people can become aware of it by library postings, things like that or on the utility bills. You hey, go to the website. Super easy. Next one. Uh your great vision is awesome. I kind of think you already have a taste bud of it though in your theme with the murals. Um and just like you know a love of the arts like are we thinking about a a come to Tmont and to celebrate the arts festival or um have of course you have an art walk already which is awesome and sidewalk contests are really cute for children in the summer and that is just a great vision there and will there be um just golly everything sculptures in the park contests and last thing promise yay I'm doing good is um the uh idea of um a big grander vision for the community with the urban planning developments. Go to the colleges, have a contest. I mean, if you want to do it for free, there's no reason not to have a competitive contest. You know, the professors there could say, "Hey, and the urban school of development and planning um but the best students presentation from three different colleges will go come together and the best school win and get a little award." I mean, that's a way to lower the price and get some I mean, these these kids need experience. they'll dive into it and uh you could probably even do it by the end of the semester. So that's it.

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You did great by the way.

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My name is Jonathan Gardner. I live in Beckham's Edge subdivision which is immediately west adjacent to the Harwood zone. I am here to speak tonight in opposition to the sighting of an inland port um or or heavy industrial development immediately next to our subdivision. In stark contrast to the golden spike, people who were here earlier today, uh those of us who were most affected by this port in the adjoining subdivision are not excited about the uh pro prospect of having a port in our backyard as as I assume you guys would not be excited about if it were in your backyard. Uh I want to stress both the risks as well as a potential constructive solution. First, the risks to our community. Locating an inland port beside an established neighborhood would cause first health harms from diesel truck emissions, noise, dust, and light pollution that directly affect our children and families. Uh next, it would cause traffic and safety issues on already stressed roads with heavy trucks mixing with local traffic. It will cause property value decline as industrial uh operations reduce the quality of life and was now a safe rural residential community. And lastly, it will cause loss of character. removed here for clean air, quiet uh quiet streets and open space and not to live by a 24-hour freight hub. Um so a constructive solution would be to use overlay zoning as a tool for protection. Overlay districts are a proven land use tool used throughout Utah as well as Idaho and surrounding states to buffer residential areas from industrial activity. For example, Salt Lake City created the inland port overlay district with additional restrictions to control how industrial uses uh develop. Eagle Mountain uses an industrial overlay zone to restrict setbacks. Uh permitted zones protections when industry and near neighborhoods. Trumont can use the same tool. An industrial overlay zone could require a minimum buff for a distance of 500 to 1,000 ft. I would say thousand ft at least uh between heavy industrial uses and any residential property. Uh

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restrict hours of operation including truck idling and noise levels near neighborhoods. Mandate landscaping, sound walls and lighting controls to reduce impact on residents and channel the highest impact activities to reduce uh elsewhere towards existing railway uh corridors and away from subdivisions. So, as on a path forward, uh I urge the council to reject any inland port zoning directly adjacent to residential areas, direct staff to draft an overlay district that buffers homes, schools, and farms from heavy industrial development, and hold public meetings so that Tmont residents can help shape these protections. Council members, you have the authority to decide whether Trmont becomes a city where families can thrive or where industry is allowed to overwhelm neighborhoods. Overlay zoning gives you a way to guide growth responsibly, supporting economic development while protecting the health, safety, and property values of your citizens. Please let us grow wisely and keep the imple in the port away from our homes. Once you industrialize Tmont, you lose the character of our great community, and there's no going back. Thank you.

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Thanks, Jonathan. Just a little bit of back. Christy Bokeut, a little bit of background on the tribute in Arlington. A resident from Tmont, Ryan Griffith is the one that reached out to Senator Curtis and asked him if he could do this. And so I wanted him to have some. It was me. Was it you? Mhm. Huh? Ryan told me it was him. So he Okay. Ryan brought up the idea. He was the one that presented the idea. Idea.

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Okay. I attended the planning commission meeting this week. I left away left very disheartened. Some unprofessional and disrespectful comments were made. Uh resident handed out a packet that she put together. Spent a lot of time doing it. Survey pictures and all kinds of things. Not one person on the planning commission give it even a half of a second knowledge. One person on the planning commission shoved it off to the side and said, "I've already made my decision. I don't need to look at that." Another person on the planning commission made the comment, he said, "It's all your fault." As in referring to the residents on Radio Hill, that was disrespectful and rude. They are there to make educated decision based on facts and not use their personal feelings or their personal agenda which they did. So I reached out to uh so I read the agenda for today. I reached out to ombbudzman group again and I asked them some questions about land use future land use and one of the first questions I was asked is is the general what is your general land use plan? And I says in

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it's not there. I says it's 2022 2021 2020 and he says that needs to be changed right now. That is what drives your land use. Without it you don't have a plan. He says take it serious and do it. I says so they're not even really following the land use. I says tree he says is like a broken puzzle. I want to put a development here, so I'm going to I want to put a development here, so I'm going to He says, "It needs to be taken serious. It needs you need to pause and really take into consideration what needs to be done in Tmont." Um, then I also received a very disturbing phone call from some residents about annexation. Uh, when the land grabbing is troubling, they had no idea this was coming. It was a shock to them. I met with several residents last night and I was very very troubled by this. So I would really like to encourage you to put your differences aside and fix the land the general land use map then go get moving with other things. It's not going to hurt to pause. We all sit in a meeting. Oh, I've got to hurry. Um Tuesday night, we don't have enough money to even fund the police department and without them we are all in trouble. Good job.

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I'm Vioma Anderson. Yes, I live in Tmont. I have several concerns, but based on 3 minutes, I don't have time for them all. So, I'm going to start with Halloween. You guys are so awesome that you help support a Halloween trick or treat on Main Street for our kids. What if we did like we do for the fair and close Main Street so the kids can safely walk up and down it for that? Um, we close it from I would say Big O cuz that's what it was. So, we close it from the railroad tracks north or what or wet east or whatever so that they can be safe for the parade. Why can't we do that for the trick or treat for the kids? Because I'm sorry, it's not adults that are doing it. They're little people and they don't watch for cars. Second, over by North Park Park, I don't know how many of you are aware on the south side of the ba the basketball area, picnic table area, there is a bunch of garbage straight up garbage. rebar, slides, um cement that is from parks being their equipment being ripped out and put somewhere so they store it there. I have talked to three different council people. They all said they were going to get right on it. They were going to do something about it. It's been brought then they got elected out and then somebody else g they got elected out. Well, I wrote it to someone else and they says they told me they'd get right on cleaning up that mess. My daughter still lives there. right behind her house is this dangerous mess that children play on every time they do the baseball games. And when what I see is I don't want to be participant in a city where we are being sued because someone's child got killed on your rebar trash. Clean up your mess.

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Is this you say this is the north side of North Park? It's the south side of the North Park by the basketball. Yeah. And it looks like a big ramp, a jump. kids that are like because if they poured dirt over part of it, but if you walk up there, it's rebar and metal sticking up in cement for them to play on. Is Greg, will you take care of that? Just one more person.

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Excuse me.

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My name is Lane Wilding and I am not part of Tmont City yet. I happen to live in uh Boxover County on Radio Hill uh on Harley Drive. And the reason I'm here is attached to this document at the last page is a letter that I received this last week relative to our being annexed into the city. And uh I was quite caught by surprise and have done a little research in the last 24 hours maybe helped me understand a little better. The first page are some of the documents that I have found relative to uh what and where we can find information about the uh annexation plan. Um it needs to be signed by the property owners who are going to be annexed. I have not been asked about that. The city council must notify us in writing relative to that annexation. I've not been notified in writing unless you consider that letter a part of that writing. um to hook up for uh city services like water and sewer. I will be cost it'll have to be paid out of my pocket to hook up into that. And this last one is the water rights. Uh I will be forced to give up the water rights that I currently own and who knows what will happen to my well. On the second on the next page I have a list of concerns that uh I am concerned about. The first one is has been mentioned earlier the city plan the 2002 city plan. In that document it says every 10 years that plan will undergo a comprehensive update. It's now been over 20 years. When are you going to update it? Um in that plan also in that same paragraph it talks about the planning and zoning hearings that will be outlined or that should happen as zoning and as an annexation takes place. The map is item number two there. The map is for the long-term use. Uh looks like it's going to be for uh single family homes, but

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however, we keep hearing rumors about other places on Radio Hill where things change and we don't get notified about density usage. Um I've not been asked to sign any documents. It appears number four that if I get annexed that I will have to give up my property or my water rights. I'm not really thrilled about that. Our home was built over 25 years ago. one of your main water lines runs through my property. The homeowner at the time asked to tie into that. They were denied and said, "No, you cannot." So, we're not have excited about that. We had to drill a well. Uh, my septic system is working fine. I don't know how much my taxes will be increased. I currently have a Garland email or Garland post office address. Will be changing to a Truman address even though I'm technically now in Garland and have a Garland address. And the last item is I'm still not sure that we'll have enough water to supply all the homes that are being planned to build on Radio Hill. If you look at your projections, you have 30,000 people. That's more than double what you currently have. And if you look at that water chart you just showed, mayor, that ain't enough water to cover what you got planned. Thank you.

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Thank you for your time. Thanks, Lane. know anything about that. [Applause]

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My name is Michair. Um I am a Boxelder County resident. I live on Harley Drive. I am here to read letters presented from two of my neighbors that could not be here tonight. Um, this first one being from Tyler D. Thompson and Natalie Thompson. They own Golden Spike Electric if you're not familiar with them. Um, this is their quotes and they wanted it to be put on record and for all of you to see as well. Tmont City Council, we live where we live for a reason. Many years of blood, sweat, and tears have gone into our home and our property. We moved out of the city limits to give our children the opportunity to help care for the land and the animals that graze it. We are not interested in your proposal annexation or your utilities. We feel it is a violation of our rights to try to take away our dreams and sanctuary that we call our home. We own our property and we along with our good neighbors reject your proposal and we will stay in the county. Signed Tyler and Natalie Thompson. This next letter is from Li and Darwin Thompson who are also residents that live on Harley Drive in Boxelder County. Their letter says, "City council, we received a letter from Jeff Seedel about possible annexation into Tmont and city, which was a surprise to us. We have no interest in being annexed into Tmont City. We are very happy being part of the county and we hope the city council can respect that. We have a well and septic system that works great that we are able to take care of and ma maintain ourselves as we have for the last 30 years. These big city developers are trying to turn our area into a huge city too fast without much planning and citizen involvement. When that happens, it only benefits the developers and no one else. Please vote to hold off on the resoning and annexation until further studies have been completed, including funding, security, and medical impacts with

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citizen involvement. Thank you. Signed, Larry Thompson and Darwin Thompson. I just want to echo what my neighbors have said. I also live on Harley Drive just up the hill from both of these people. We do not want to be in Tremont City. Thank you. Thank you.

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Thank you, Mich. Hello, my name is Tiffany Burcell. Tonight I come to you to ask to put a moratorum on the resoning and annexation. I have come to a number of meetings and I also appreciate both the time and the effort that you are putting on behalf of the city. I also have some grave concerns. I have come to a number of meetings that the resounding public opinion is to slow down the growth of Tremont. Last time I spoke in a city meeting, the city council voted against resoning my area to R8. I thank you for listening to the voices of the community. Since that meeting, resoning has come up a number of times and for a number of areas. The planning meetings I've gone to have seemed to be perunctionary at best before agreeing to reszone again and again. In fact, I've only seen them not approve a resoning once and they just delayed it. They didn't deny it. In the last planning meeting, Christine compiled a fairly comprehensive survey from a number of people in our area. It was not even read, much less considered in their decision-m. I know there are a lot of issues with planning and building that I can't understand. But that being said, our concerns were overlooked and not even addressed. Police and safety were not even discussed. I ask that if our general plan isn't worth being followed, can we take a break from resoning until we can create something that is updated and has the best interest of where we want to be? At the city planning meeting, it was discussed the need for attainable housing. I ask you, how many of you live in a townhouse or a condo or a multif family house and hope that to be your permanent residence? I've lived in Lemon throughout my life. I am so grateful for that option. But I'm afraid that as we increase this type of housing in Tmont, it's going to become a stepping stone for many families. One thing I love about Tmont community. I welcome more neighbors. But ideally, I want the kind who are going to be invested in the city's future because it's their future, too. I don't want to fill the town with people who are

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treating like our our city like a rental and not like we're somewhere they want to stay. I don't think I'm the only one that feels this way. Please look at the city and its citizens. Please take a step back and take the time to find what the voice of the people who live here think. Let's come up with a plan that represents what we want our city to look like. That includes adequate basic needs, including police, EMTs, schools, sewer, and water facilities. I think we need a committee to help evaluate this. I did time this and it should be two and a half minutes. So even though it's not going um to help evaluate this comprised of different people other than those who have vested interest in just growing despite the consequences. I love my neighbors and I don't blame them for any of the issues we're having on the hill even though it was suggested by some of our planning committee that it's their fault. Instead I blame developing at a rate we can't keep up with and without enough thoughtout growth. I blame developers that didn't hold up their end of the deal and approving developments without doing our due diligence. Please help us to take a step back so that we can serve the best interest of our community. Please place a moratorium on resoning and annexing at this time. Let's build right, not just fast.

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Thank you, Tiffany.

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Hi, I'm Laura Wear. Sorry, I'm carpool duty tonight. So, it's I'm in and I'm out. So, I grew up in Brigham City in a small town and as a teenager, I vowed to never live in a small town again. However, when employment opportunities brought my husband and I back to northern Utah, we decided to live in Treemont and I was a little wary at first, but I've lived here for over 17 years, and I really truly love it. I love Treemont. I value and I appreciate the sense of safety that I feel here. uh the green and the open spaces that are here and most importantly the community that I have found here. That's what I value the most. I know that growth in Tmont is inevitable. I feel as we have as the growth that we have experienced we are close to if not we have already probably outgrown our current city plan. Um and with that growth we have had peace mill resoning and annexations. Our current infrastructure is designed for a rural population. Without appropriate planning, I worry that our roads, our water systems, our schools, and our emergency services will not be able to keep up with the rapid growth. As I have listened to and attended city council meetings, I have also come to learn how rapid growth affects not only farmland, but also the quality of life of the residents that live here. I can only imagine the pressure that that the city feels to grow and expand and provide affordable housing. Um I am not opposed to growth. I want just want it to happen carefully in ways that fit our community values and without losing what makes Tmont so special. So, I'm asking the city council to pause, to take a breath, to stop peacemail resoning and annexations, and support um and the creation of an updated land use plan and an updated city uh master city plan. A thoughtful updated city plan with a broader vision for the future would help prepare for

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sustainable growth while protecting our rural roots. Thank you. Thank you, Mara. That's awesome.

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I don't know how many of these letters you want to get. I'm Colton Hair. This is I'm Mâché's husband. Um same letter sent out to Harley Drive. Um and I I have a very interesting perspective on the whole development situation. My parents are actually developers down south in central Utah. Um, and so I understand as well the need for growth and a city's need to expand and to be run as a business and be successful. It's important that the business is healthy and thriving and has funds to support the employees just like a city is important to have healthy funds and housing for their citizens. Um but I think the most important thing that we have to remember is that it is the employees who actually run the business. Um without them the business would fail and without the citizens of Tmont, Boxelder County, the surrounding area, um the city will not be an enjoyable and successful place to live. Uh I think that my biggest stance is that everyone's opinions need to be appreciated and asked for uh in these decisions. When it comes to annexation, I do not want to be annexed into the city. I like the freedom of the county and that it provides. Uh that's one of the reasons we live where we live, just as Tyler and Natalie Thompson said. Uh, and I just don't feel that my opinion or anyone's on our street was considered in this supposed annexation that was sent to us. Uh, and in my opinion, the letter started out very, yeah, like, you know, your opinion matters and then it was kind of like, but it's going to happen anyways. Um, so let us talk you through how that's going to work and how that's going to affect you. Um, so I understand the reasoning and purpose behind the

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need for expansion. Um, but I've been sitting here for 3 hours and heard you talk about the general use plan. Uh, 2002 is a long time ago. I mean, I was 9 years old. Uh, and the world has changed. Not just here. The world has changed. It's a different place. Um, we need to update. We need to continue to grow or we will fail and this country was built on the back of the people. Um, and they need to be involved in that process. And I hope that we can continue to do that as we move forward and consider everyone's opinions. Thank you.

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Thanks, Colton. Okay, my name is Christine Nepine. Uh, first I just want to hand out this letter because this is from resident Lisa Christensen and she emailed this and texted it to you. She just wants it on public record. So, here's that. Next, this is what I emailed. These are my comments. I don't have many comments tonight. They're black and white. Sorry, I spent color on the other copies at the count at the commission. Anyway, sorry. But I do want that on record for and that that's just the email that I sent you guys. Um, you have the PDF that you can look at in your email for the color. The charts on the survey are in color and so they that that does need to be put seen in colors for you to be able to read the charts. So that's that's just the email that I sent you. So please, if you need it in colors, check your email. I will get the recorder's office a color copy. It's the results of the survey that I did. Um, tonight I just very briefly I just wanted to piggyback off of Officer Hassad's quote. It touched me touched me tonight. He said, "I have found it is small things, everyday deeds of the ordinary folk that keeps the darkness at bay. This has been a hard time for my family personally over over the last few weeks. the tragedies we've had in Tmont and the tragedies we've had in our country. I believe that um in the presentation for officers for our officers that have fallen, they said Tree Mountain is where neighbors look out for each other. And that is what we're doing. We're here. We're neighbors looking out for each other. And we're all saying the same thing. We're worried about growth. We're worried about multif family housing. We're worried about we're worried about that. And it's not a fa it's because we

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are worried that we're here. And this is what we're doing. I did want to show you just as a matter of a visual. These are the these are the surveys that I collected. I I divided the whole neighborhood into zones and I and I calculated which families to put them out. If you need, I can go out and knock doors and get every single every single person's voice. that these are the voices of your constituents that I've put together in a packet for you so that you can read and you can see what the neighbors of Tmont are saying. Please take them. That is what we're doing here. Rapid growth without following a plan is getting us worried and we are working looking out for each other. I loved being able to talk to my neighbors and see them and be able to reach out with them. But that's all that I had to say. I'm not very professional today. I'm really sorry, but I really appreciate your time. I appreciate the thoughtfulness that you guys have put into to your what you're doing for us as citizens. Thank you so much.

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Very perfect. Thank you, Christine. Thank you.

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Jamie Pppelton, um, Tmont resident. I would just like to touch on some keynotes that others have discussed, but I think there's a few things that we just keep kicking down the road discussion week after week after week. And it's as school days have kicked off and kids are in high gear. I see kids walking to the bowling alley, no sidewalks. I see kids walking to McDonald's, no sidewalks. I now have kids on bicycles crossing the intersection at crossroads. no crossing guard, no crosswalk, no lights, nothing to wave them on, traffic going all different directions.

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So, when we're talking about safety and everything that is going on, I would personally just like to know where are we at with developments that are already approved, are the is the infrastructure for all of those to connect the lines from A to B already done, paid for? Is that going to fall on taxpayers? Is it possible for all of those safety measures to be done ahead of time while we're working on some of these things? And my last thought is is it possible to have put on the agenda a presentation or something for the public to know exactly how many subdivisions or how many developments have been approved, where they're going, so the residents can have an overall huge picture of what our city will look like when all of these developments and subdivisions are done. Because right now, we don't see addresses. We just we just see names. I don't know where they're at. I have no idea. You can look them up. You can try to find them. But like always, some information is difficult to find. I would just again like to say if we could get that on an agenda, I would appreciate that as a presentation. But are we the taxpayers going to keep footing the bill for the developmental safety measurements while we try to connect the dots? I've heard at the last two meetings that I've watched that I've not been able to attend. I've heard truth and taxation. We've heard transportation bill, transportation fee, the residents are going to get taxed to death to continue to pay for everything to connect these dots in my opinion. Don't know the solution, but if we can come together and do it and figure it out, I would just like to not see any kids get hit at the crossroads corner. I would like to not see any kids get hit at the bowling alley pulling in and out of the grill. And I would like to be able to see some kids do something and get from point A to point B, but do it safely. Same thing on the hill. Same thing with the developments. Thank you.

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Thank you, Jamie.

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Oh, I'm going to uh close the public comment period so we can move on with our I I think we've unless there's some Oh, you Yeah, come on up. [Music] First of all, my name is Michelle Martin. You guys have a very hard job and I appreciate the time that uh you put into your job. I know you don't get paid very much. It's just pitlins, but you're here because you care and um so do we. So I hope that you know we hear a lot um will they you know do they listen? Do they even listen to us? I I believe you listen to us and I hope that you'll listen to us with an open mind, not an already madeup mind and you're listening like a teenager listens to you and instead of listening when your teenageer has a problem and you're listening to them hopefully, you know, that's how you listen to us residents as we're as we're bringing up our issues and our concerns. Um, I think the proposal of the general use plan hold for just a few minutes so we can step back is an excellent idea. I've attended a lot of meetings recently. What comes up over and over is sustainable and affordable housing. And and you know, people come here and say, "I want my kids to I want them to be able to Well, I'm there. I have I have a daughter that we're trying to get up here and we spent a lot of money and a water share and a lot of time making our house our house is a subdivision. So, one of our kids could

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build there, but she can't afford to build there. It costs too much money to build. So, she's looking for housing. So, I've been looking for housing. And you know, multi-unit housing isn't the only way to have sustainable housing. I've been looking online and for housing for her, and I see a new town home over in um the area where they're building town homes, $314,000. And then I see a cottage home that they actually get their own little piece of property. Yeah, not very much, but it's 6,000 square ft. Little yard, little um um fence, 300 one of the plot, one of the um um idea, you know what the word is. Anyway, $349,000 for for one of the um plans. Uh 369 for another one, 389 for another one. 300. There's there's other ways than putting 10 homes in a row attached to each other that are going to be in the 300,000s when you can have a small single. I ask my daughter, would you rather pay a lower amount and be attached to six homes or would you rather have tiny yard but it's your yard with a fence around it? That's the one she picks. And so there are let's think outside the box. There's other other things and I have a million other things that I'll see I'll say next time. Thank you.

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Thanks Michelle. [Music]

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Hi, my name is Bruce Jeepson and I want to say thanks for you guys. You got a you got a tough job. I understand that. And um my parents moved here in 1960 up on the hill. We're on the very end. We're don't we're not Harley Drive. We're 7200. Harley Drive is a little later. So we've been we're still on 7200 drive. Um we grew up on the hill so you shoot guns out your back door and you you just be a kid, you know. So I like that so much. So I build a house next door to my parents and I'll build a log house and kind of old couch country boy. And I just like the Well, we got a we got a good there. We're close to we're close to Tmont. You know, we we have our own septic and our and our water tastes a lot better than Treemont water by far. It's a it's on we're on a whale and I just I got the letter. I talked to Jeff and I called and he actually called me back. I want him to say thanks. I don't know who Jeff is. I talked to him on the phone, but I want to say thanks for calling back and I talked to him the same thing. He said he come from Idaho and he kind of drew up the same way. So I I got the letter and you know I was kind of I didn't really a lot of times you get mail I just look at kind of this is something junk but it said tree and I thought maybe was for my drag night coming up so for next year but anyway I want to say thanks you guys but I want I'm glad you're listening to us and everything. I just concerned about that too. I don't I can't talk like Lane and them do they do great and Mich's so sharp at it. I'm just an old country boy that says, you know, I just like it how it is and I don't see any really benefit to be to be uh in the city, you know, that's so but thanks for your time. I don't take too much, but thanks thanks for what you're doing though. Okay. Appreciate it. Thanks.

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Thanks, Bruce. Yeah.

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Yeah. Hi guys. Um, my name is Kelly Harris. I'm a lifelong resident of the valley. I was born in Tmont. Um, I've lived here all my life. I'm a homeowner. I'm a business owner. Um, the Tremont people of Tremont have been very, very good to me and I love this community. Um, I I want to have Tmont I'd like to see Tmont be a vibrant community, fiscally responsible community with with enough money at the end of the month to to pay the bills and and I appreciate you guys. I appreciate and I I want to say thank you for the time you're spending with this because it's remarkable and it's kind of a thankless job. I can see that in so many ways, but you're community-minded and you care and that's why you're doing it and I have no no doubts about that. So, I want to I want to say that big thank you to you. Um, but you know, I hear these this talk about moratoriums and so forth and I know how that affects businesses. Um, h I I wonder how is that going to affect the the city? Where's the revenue going to come from? I mean, I I know that if you're going to build a a new forplex right now, a building permit for that forplex is $60,000. That's $15,000 a door. That's a tre. Go over and look at Archabald Estates over there at the at the development that's built there and start counting doors and think of the amount of revenue that's come to the city.

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Where what's that going to be replaced with if we have a moratorum

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and after this moratorum, so to speak, is over then there's going to be an inrush. And how's that going to be handled? I I don't see anything wrong with having wellplanned development. It seems to me like the city has has hired very professional, capable people as city planners and so forth. Listen to them. They have the best interest of the city at heart. They know how to make the ends meet. And that's the problem. you your your your job as being on city council is kind of like being the parent of a family. Sometimes the kids just don't want to hear what you have to say, but nevertheless, you've you've got to be the one that makes the decisions because you have to make the ends meet at the end of the day. And uh you know I um I appreciate the the folks their their their feelings about wanting Tremont to stay a small hometown type community but you look around the valley and you see both you see that you see Bear River City you you know you you see Plymouth you you see Colinston you see Dwey all of this growth is coming around us and we're not going to stop it. And we're not going to stop it by trying to board up Tremont and and have a big moratorum against building. We want to be responsible and we want the building to be conscientious of the of the neighbors and so forth. But the reality is is what happened and what worked 10 well years ago doesn't work anymore.

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It does it's it doesn't work in our economy. I can think back not too many years. Not. Am I out of No, [Music] I just want I just want to say that I'm I'm pro growth. I I want to see Tmont grow and prosper. Okay. Thanks. Thanks, Kelly.

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Okay. I think Oh, okay. One more. I'm Molly Teasdale. Um, I've been here for a few years now and I've only been to three meetings and I've heard the same repetitive broken record from all of my neighbors, including myself. Um, I think it appears to me that there's a not a set plan in place that will work. And part of our issue is we don't trust the committee to show that plan. We haven't seen any kind of proof of any like this is going to work. This is going to help infrastructure. All the questions that were supposed to be asked at the last meeting didn't get asked. Nobody from the committee asked any of those questions. How are you going to police? Who's going to put the fires out? Who's going to teach the kids? Where are they going to go to school? You're going to put all these extra people in. They're all probably going to have five kids. It's Utah. So, who's going to teach the kids? I I saw something earlier today about one of the high schools and how good is this high school? And then the comment on that was just like, "Oh, my kids are out of control with that school. They're marked at not attending because the teachers can't. There's too much going on. I'm asking that you slow it down. I didn't move here out of the town to come back to a big town again. I like the small town. Love it. I like to see the stars at night. You don't get that out there. And you certainly won't have that if you're going to build, you know, 600 houses up on a hill by stars. That's it for them. As far as the water goes, there's already people apparently that can't even take a shower

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and wash their clothes at the same time. So, I don't know where the equilibrium is. So, we would like to see something that we can trust, not just something that's an idea that, you know, my friend Christine put a lot of work into those packets and it was hotter than hell that day passing those surveys out. So, please take the time to look it over. Show us the respect. we show you the respect and pass that on to your planning committee. Thanks. Thank you.

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Hi, my name's Marishia Menllo and I am pro planned growth. Um, without planned growth, the cost of running the city is going to fall back on the people that are already here. Developments can help pay for infrastructure, housing, and amenities like parks and trails. Things that our residents really want and our children need. Careful planning is about building smarter so families can stay here, they can thrive here, and we can keep our small town character alive. My big question is if we freeze development, how will our budget balance without the revenue from development and how will that affect our citizens that are currently struggling to pay the property taxes that we're already paying? Thank you.

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Thanks, Marishia. Okay, I'm going to close the comment period and we want to sincerely appreciate everybody. Uh I tried to keep track and take notes and and uh I really appreciate everybody that's commented this evening. All right, we'll move on to our new council business. Um, first on the agenda is uh item A, discussion and consideration of approving resolution number 25-47 amending section 11 purchasing policy and contracts of the city city's personnel policies and procedures manual. Um, we went through this. So, what we're going to do, we we did go through the the agenda uh earlier this evening and and uh but we'll briefly address each one of them and and then take any comments from the council that you might have. Uh Lindsay, do you have anything to add to that? I think the only three things that we're we're making changes to is a stamp signature, allowing for a stamp signature. Um

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payroll. No. Yeah. And uh Okay. So, those things right there. Council, do you have any questions on any of that? I'll make a motion we approve resolution 25-47 amending. Second. Motion by Blair and seconded by Wes. Uh let's see. We'll start over here with Bo. Yes. Oh, Bo. Yes. Slip over to Brandon real quick. Yes. The CS is for Brandon. Okay. Okay. Blarry. Yes. Brett. Yes. Yes.

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Motion passes. Thank you. discussion and consideration of approving resolution number 25-48 creating a new water supply use type and reaffirming amending and enacting new fees and fines in a schedule that entitled the Tmont and city consolidated fees and fines schedule including collection fees and again I emphasize we've gone through these um through our in our workshop so we'll just kind of move along here Carl do you want to add just so the public understands what we're So currently we uh have an unmetered hydrant connection where contractors and others come fill. Uh we want to solve some problems related with that including access the discrepancy between you know free water and and the residents that are paying for the water and that it's unmetered. So, we are creating two fill stations and that requires that we create a new water use type that we can sell. It's um so we'll have two water fill stations. One will be culinary water, the other will will be the irrigation water. Um and we're going to there they'll be located in two different parts of the of the city and water will then be available for this use type year round. It's very popular. um it'll bring in some revenue. It creates uh an uh a little a small revenue stream um and allows them to um still continue to use water for that use type while we monitor uh who's using it and the amount of water that they are allowed to use. And it's we limit them to a 100,000

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gallons a month typically. Um a water truck is typically what they're filling up is 4,000 gallons. So probably nobody's really going to use 100,000 gallons in a month, but that just allows us to be able to uh charge for that. and and in some long-term construction projects and that kind of thing, they they will use, you know, more water than that. And 100,000 gallons sounds like a lot, but it's also not. So, we had to create this new water use type and a way to pay for it.

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Questions? All right. Council, what's that? surprised we haven't done this yet. Yeah, me too. All right. Well, we're doing it, council. I I like it. Wes brought the question up earlier and you're right. It's better than nothing, right? And it's it's additional money, but you know, you look at like tier 2, they're paying $1.75 and we're paying 350 as a resident or somewhere around there. And it just I'm wondering if the tiers are included in that amount, right? They're paying the same exact amount. Okay. I'm sorry. I thought we were paying more than those tiers as residents. I thought I saw that.

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Those are the those are the tiers that So, if you use Okay. So, they're paying the same we are. Mhm. Perfect. Thank you. Welcome. Okay. Council, I make a motion we adopt this resolution. Okay. Second. All right. Motion by Brett and seconded by uh Blair. Any other discussion? All right. Hearing none. Uh let's see. We'll go over here to Oh, yes. Blair. Yes. Brett, yes. Yes. Brandon, yes.

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Thank you. All right. Motion passes. Uh we we uh took item C off the agenda for tonight. Item D, uh, discussion and consideration of adopting number TW resolution number 25-50 authorizing the purchase of a vac truck. So, so the resolution describes all the reasons why we have a need for this this vehicle. Um it I I explained how many miles of underground pipeline we have earlier. 218 miles of underground pipes within the city, you know, and and almost 50 mi of road. Having an additional vector truck will tremendously help the city as we've grown a lot and as we continue to add infrastructure. Um we approved, you approved, I didn't approve anything. City Council approved um $700,000 $75,000 in our in our budget this year for that. We did a lot of good homework. We researched uh the the best um trucks that we could find. We've we've uh had them come visit us. We've seen these trucks in action and we've been able to um come up with a pretty good comparison between the three uh providers. Again, it's the same chassis. It's a Freightlininer chassis, so that's the the vehicle. Everything else is what makes it a Vector truck. And um the one that I want your support in in being able to purchase is the Super Products one. It's the one that regardless of price, it's the design and has the features that we really want. It's a little bit different than some of the other ones. It's got a

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good It's got really good water tank capacity and debris capacity. Um, we can do a lot of good with that truck. Um, I would in in fairness and in in honesty, um, one of the main differences that I see comes under warranties. every warranty is a little bit different. Um you can you can see what the differences are there, but the the amount of cost um is is also significantly less. And so that's just a bonus. frees up it. It potentially frees up, you know, $135,000 that we can put to city needs elsewhere under uh public works department. So,

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good. All right. Council, I make a motion we pass resolution 25-50. After being down there and seeing how that old truck is about to fall apart, I'm glad we got it. And so I'll make the motion we approve a new one. I'll second. Motion by um Wes and seconded by Bo. Uh let's see. Start. Yes. Brett, yes. Wes, yes. Brandon, yes. Bo, yes. Okay. Thank you.

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You're the owner of a new vac truck. Just need to get it here, huh? Uh, okay. Discussion and consideration of an approving ordinance number 25-17 granting an electrical utility franchise and general utility easement to Rocky Mountain Power. And again, we talked about this earlier and I'm glad you're here with us and and uh turn let you go ahead and talk tell us about this.

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Okay. Yeah. So, my name is Russ Fox. I'm with I'm a regional business manager for Rocky Mountain Power. Um, I'm your representative, if you will, for for Tmont City. I pretty much have all of Boxhelder County um for the communities and some of the some of the businesses that are around here as well. Um, so just trying to help with accounts and things like that, but my main focus is on communities. Um, just a lot of it's because I was talking with Lindsay. I was assistant city manager Draper City, so I have a lot of city city background and experience and feel your guys' pain when I was down in Draper. So, um, but anyway, so yeah, this is just a a standard franchise agreement that we have, uh, with a lot of the communities. Um, the last one we had approved, uh, with Tmont was back in 2021. Uh, so that's that's actually going to expire next year. So, we're just trying to get ahead of these. Uh, but, uh, so that'll that'll start the clock um on this one. Uh, state legislature, you know, provides the opportunities for us to enter into franchise agreements or franchise ordinances with with communities. basically just allows us to to put our our utilities within the rightway. Um establishes the the rules for us to apply for whatever city permits, things like that that we need to get from from the city uh when we're doing some of those things. Um and uh yeah, so we're asking for another 5 years for this uh for this utility easement. And uh just can answer any questions that you have specific to this, but um I just appreciate the support. We appreciate the our our relationship, our working relationship with Rocky Mountain Power. You guys, we feel like we've had a long-standing relationship with you. Um, council, do you have any questions for

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I didn't see any material differences. It's very similar, right? Very similar. There was there was some minor uh from the last one. There was just some address changes and then we we added some additional information on vegetation management. So basically just some some new websites, some more information on uh when we need to go out and do uh management within the trees within the park strips. Okay.

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I make a motion we approve resolution 25-17 for the electrical ordinance number ordinance. Resolution ordinance. Um okay. Motion by Blair. I'll second it. Seconded by Brett. Any other discussion? Hearing none. Uh, let's see. Yes. Yes. Brandon, yes. Flo, yes. Larry, yes. All right. Motion passes. Thank you very much. You.

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Thank you. All right. Uh item F, discussion and consideration of approving ordinance number 25-18 enacting an a temporary land use regulation on the acceptance pro processing and approval of certain land use applications. We've heard a lot of discussion about this uh in our work session and also in comment period. Uh, council, do you have uh did you want to address any of this, Brett?

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Well, as I've been thinking about it, um, more and more general plan is a great name, I guess, but it's really a comprehensive plan. It's a plan that we need to have in our city to just bring all of our plans together under one umbrella, a guiding document that guides our policies, our investments, and decision-m and to be doing that with a 2002 plan is just not it's not going to work. And so this this is not a moratorum because all this is doing is making it so that or asking that we don't do any additional zoning changes until we come up with a new comprehensive general plan. Now, with that said, because in and Jeff, I think you'll have to concur or disagree with me on this, but any applications that have been applied for or set forth this point wouldn't fall under this because um those things were done prior to us going through this discussion. And so, uh for legal reasons, we couldn't touch that. though. Um, but and the other thing I want to say is we have a community that wants to get together. They want to come together and share their ideas and develop a vision for our whole city and define smart growth. And I think we can do that. And I think as a community we can come together and do that. And so that's why I'm pushing this um pause on zoning changes. Now, one thing you can add to it, and I think this is part of the discussion, is annexations. You know, um we could pause annexations as well, but um

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so I just I just want to make sure that we're all on the same page and we can agree that so how these plans all work together, right? The general plan is the umbrella vision. Mhm.

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The land use map is the spatial guide. The annexation plan is the geographic growth limits. The housing plan is the social equity element element that makes sure that we're balanced and also make sure that state regulations are being followed. The capital facilities plan is the infrastructure delivery. The economic plan is the market driven implementation. The RDA plan is the financing tools. Zoning ordinances are the daily enforcement. And the transportation and parks plan are the quality of life and mobility support. So just making sure that we understand, you know, what those plans are and how they all play together so that we're we're not doing something that, you know, as we so if we say till the general plan is updated, I just want to make sure that we're all on the same page that we're talking about the umbrella vision

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guiding the land use map, annexation plan, etc. Right. I think what we're talking about is the Tmont master plan and not so much a uh I think that's the proper verbiage on that. But um irregardless um one thing another item that I think we need to be just conscious of as you know we consider this as you consider this um you know it is going there is a cost associated with uh going forward and there would be a cost uh anywhere from $80,000 to $120,000 is what we've been told. And so just just as you're going through this discussion, uh at least keep that in the back of your mind. Um, I had a question too because there's

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Why don't you come up here so we can

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um one question that this has brought up for me is is I've been working on um uh clarifying and updating regulations on both our industrial and commercial um and residential zones and to to change either confusing nomenclature and stuff too. You know, we've shifted some some terminology. So my question is if this passes, you know, can I continue going forward with what I've already started and where does the or you know, is it a full halt stop and and I just kind of wait for these plans to be updated before going forward? As I understand it, and correct me if I'm wrong here, Brett, as I understand it, if uh if we're not looking at zoning changes and uh you know, if there's already plans that are that have been uh approved or you know, we've we we're going to go ahead with all of that. If it involves, correct me if I'm wrong, if it involves a zoning change or some kind of a uh use change, then is that what you're saying or

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put a put a pause on a zoning change or a use change? A zoning change. Okay. A zoning change. But u my concern is you know we want to make sure and I think uh we want to make sure that um you know we are not stopping commercial growth in the sense that uh you know and that kind of thing as you kind of assured me that that would really not the case there. we're not talking about.

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It will not. It says that this temporary land use regulation shall not affect applications for subdivisions, conditional use permits, building permits, or other development approvals that are um that are fully compliant with the city's zoning map and ordinances as they exist at the time of the ordinance's adoption. amendments to the general plan or zoning ordinance initiated by the Tmont Planning Commission or city council for the express purpose of implementing an updated general plan. So, all of our all of our uh subdivisions and and building that's been approved, it doesn't touch those. If like a commercial industry comes in or something and and they're building in an area that it's commercial, it it's fine. You know, if someone buys some property and it's zoned R120 and they want to build R120, then they can. But this is just so that we we can stop, we can focus, we can say how do where do we want our city to growth? How do we want it to grow? And how do we want to do it together? You know, working with our developers and working with our citizens. I this isn't an attack on one group versus another. Not at all. let's come together and design a plan that we can all work together with.

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What impacts does that have on planning? Um, well, based on my understanding so far, the the architectural and the formbbased code I've been working on for Main Street would have to stop because it was going to change. I was creating just a a new zone to encompass those. And I've that's aund plus pages of zoning document that I've been working on with SA with landmark design for we're going on seven months now. That's in the RDA zone.

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In the RDA zone. It also extends and covers um Main Street from I 84 over to um almost to the Bear River. Um, so that would stop. Um, it starts coming down a little bit too with the industrial code changes that we've been working on at planning commission because we've been changing permitted use. We've been updating the use table. We've been adding in provisions to I feel help the city have more educated decisions with the industrial growth that's starting to turn its head in Tmont. Well, and in the in the economic development impact that that would have on our revenues. Um,

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especially in already zoned industrial. Okay.

3:37:45 – 3:38:580

So, after that, because with the mixed use zone changing the zoning regulations on Main Street, that was going to influence how the commercial zones where they are and how they behave. So the really the next steps for me that I was working on is getting the industrial ready because I mean even as you heard from the inland port tonight, it looks like they're putting some serious focus on that. Um we've met with other developers that own industrially zone land that are starting to become interested. Um so it's just not clear to me of of what to really do continuing to go forward and and what stops or what's put on pause until we update these plans. um also was really uh you know changes the some of the updates I was going to make to the residential code um in terms of um in in terms of uh you know lot setbacks and and some of the sizing requirements that you know I feel are a little out of date with the current economic IC markets in Utah.

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I just got a couple of things, too. And and I I know it's going to be awful tough to to get the community to all agree. I I I've seen that in the last few years trying to get everybody to agree with even Midland Square took us a couple years. Um and we still

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I don't think we can do this in 3 months. And with Jeff's comments, I I kind of think maybe we can relook at this at another time. Um, I I know that a lot of, you know, we've been outnumbered like 10 to one on on some of these uh annexations and and things like that. Nobody wants them in their backyard. And and I can go back 30 years when city limits was the railroad tracks. And if the city had not annexed the railroad tracks, we wouldn't have the old hospital, the new hospital, Post, all them businesses, Lazy Boy, all them. Um, and and and I still am a firm believer that that every decision that we make as a council should be what's best for the city. and and I don't think that's the right decision for the city right now. If we bring it back up again and say we're going to look at this in 90 days or so that you know it's not just going to be as of today. It could be relooked at my eyes. That's that's my thoughts on it tonight.

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Thanks Wes. Any other comments? Is is it how difficult would it be to to update this with carveouts for the concerns that Jeff had with not limiting ourselves with formbbased code carveouts for the RDA zone that's really going to help with our economic development down Main Street. Those those are really important changes. So, I'd hate to see those be lumped into this, especially the steering committee, main street steering committee's worked really hard to work progress toward a lot of those changes. And so, I don't want to see their efforts be slowed down. And we're also going to probably start to see some of those RDA monies that could be spent on downtown. And so, I don't want to slow that down. And then also the industrial code changes. I I think there's a lot of validity to that. Um we have some businesses that are very interested in coming. Um we come here every week and we talk about budget and the limitations on budget and you know tomorrow a CEO is going to be coming to talk about bringing in a plant that could be you know hundreds of thousands of revenue in to our so I just I' I'd also want to see some sort of a carveout for that. to make sure that we're we're not slowing that down. If it's already, you know, some if we wrote it up so that if it's already industrial zoned that it would be that we could still adjust the code.

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Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but most of the rub is residential zoning, right? That's That's why if I don't think there'd be a problem carving that out, would there?

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Well, I'm wondering if we just don't define it as um residential zoning. Well, again, what what what we're kind of talking about is a is a master plan and it'll involve all of this kind of thing, but but what you're saying is to we're just not going to put a pause on on the RDA on I think this I the gentleman who was concerned about the inland port being, you know, the the the inland port is actually in a in an area where it is away from uh from it. It's away from residential growth. It isn't going to impact uh you know not going to have uh residential growth around for the most part.

3:43:32 – 3:44:000

I think we have this is so I think the in inland port is something that we don't want to put a pause on that that that's something that could be you know we we will want to be able to annex that into the city when the time comes. We don't want to put a pause on that. what triggers that event because the current land use plan actually conflicts with it. That's what I'm trying to understand.

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We've also got the opposite of that over the vision of the land use plan on in Iowa string. We just put residential in where it says industrial on the the third phase. And so I think that land use plan does need to be updated and addressed with the the vision and changes that we're going toward. And I think we'd want public feedback on on that, right? I don't know that the inland port has

3:44:26 – 3:45:130

I would say the caveat to that is we really don't know what land owners like even if we reach out and empty these plans, land owners are what triggered the two changes we you just mentioned is that the land owner that came in and said, "I'd like to build residential." And you go look at the plan. Well, it's supposed to be industrial and let's work around that. And now we have a I mean even before this conversation faced itself, you had a land owner that started working with the state saying, "I want to see my acreage become an industrial park." And that's that those kind of decisions you can never account for when you're updating plans. Um it's it's because it's just it's up to who owns the land to say what they want to do with it.

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Yeah. But we can decline a reszone, right, if it doesn't fit that that land use plan. Yeah. But like for example, the inland ports already adopted it. So do we go to the inland? Like this is hypothetical. go to the Inland Port now and say, "Great. We really appreciate your desire and to bring jobs and and some economic diversity to Tremont, but we made a plan that says this has to be residential and like what do we end up passing off then in terms of of revenue and and jobs actually coming to Tremont?

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I think we're addressing different issues here because this this here doesn't even address that at all." Um, that's an annexation. It's It has nothing to do with this ordinance. Well, you mentioned though putting a pause on annexation, so that would then it would absolutely. Yeah.

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So, and then you had mentioned residential code impacts. So, can we carve out the the code changes as far as like the ones that you're looking at doing? I think you're handcuffing the, you know, your committees and everything. If they're coming back and saying this is what we're after and then we're coming back and say, "But this is what we're going to do." I then why even have the committee? You know, I mean, at some point we got to say, "All right, we're going to step back and we're going to we're going to put together a plan, come back, and then we're going to turn over to Jeff and his crew and and say, "All right, now make this come true." Yeah.

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And I just want to make it clear, I'm I'm all for the public's feedback on this and I'm not trying to limit that. I mean, I've spent how many nights here doing town halls that are voluntary to be able to hear the public's opinion. And so, uh, I'm just trying to make sure that we don't also put our our staff in a in an awkward spot as they're meeting with developers in a way that we look bad as a city, you know? for putting a moratorum on. Um, you know, this is the f we've really had an opportunity to address this in any sort of real depth. And what I'm hearing are lots of questions and question marks, you know, on the impact that this this ordinance would have on on u, you know, things that are being addressed right now and and that kind of thing. I I don't know who mentioned that, you know, let's let's put a little uh maybe we need to take a little more time and and think this through. I think that what Brett has done here is uh really important and I really appreciate the comments and everything that have been addressed and the work that uh Christine, you have done and and and others in your neighborhood to uh address all of this. Um, so I I just wonder if maybe we ought to just just there's enough question marks here that I'm hearing that I'm wondering if we need to fine-tune this just a little bit more before we before we go forward with it. Um, I don't know, Brett. Uh I'm just talking here and and

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just in listening to the comments that have been made so far. I'm just wondering if uh if that's something we need to do or I'd like to hear your thought on that.

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So what what changes would you like to see to this? Well, I think uh Bo has addressed several uh that you know that are are concerns, uh annexations, uh the inland port, um you know, uh new businesses coming in. I I I I recognize that a lot of those are already they're not going to be really issues. Um, but I also hear, you know, both sides of the story on uh on, you know, maybe what's going on up on Radio Hill and and all of that kind of thing. I hear I'm hearing both sides of the coin here. And um

3:49:36 – 3:50:130

Okay, let me do this. In an effort to save this, I'll make a motion. No, no. I'll make a motion to Well, I I didn't mean to apply that. Okay. I did not mean to apply that at all, but to continue this forward, I'll make a motion to table this and we'll go back and readress some of these issues and build that language into it and then bring it back for I think that would be really wise at this point. I think it's great a great start. I just don't think we're quite there with with the question marks that have been raised so far.

3:50:08 – 3:50:360

And this is this is how it works, okay? You know, the public goes to the city council, talks to them, they put together these things, they start to bake them and work them out. We come back here and we debate them and we talk about them and it I don't know that we're ever going to see it go the first time every time anyway, but this is the process. Yeah, this is I agree 100% with you there. It's okay. We'll get there.

3:50:33 – 3:51:150

I think this document is four steps in the right direction. and and uh I mean if it wasn't for just the the magnitude of the decision we're making, I put a lot of time into studying it, preparing for it, and tonight I've just got a couple questions that I'd really like to get clarity on, and I I think within the next meeting, we could we could have this adjusted and back on the agenda and moving forward. I personally I would I would really appreciate the the motion to table it and I I would second that motion. Is that your motion, Brad? Is that your second? Oh, is that your second? Yeah.

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All right, we have a motion and a second and uh u any more comment from any of the council Brett and or Brandon and Wes? hearing none. Uh we'll ask I'll ask for a uh vote. Wes, we'll start with you. Yes. Yes. Right. Okay. Wes is a yes. Brandon, that's a vote. Yes. Vote. Yes. To table. Yes. Very yes.

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Okay. Motion passes. And thank you everybody for the discussion. Thank you to all of you for your comments and concerns and and uh I think we're making good headway here. Made a big step forward for both for uh for all those that are interested in uh what we're doing here tonight. So, thank you. All right, we have one item on the consent agenda appointing a a Trmont Justice Court judge. Uh to uh bring people up to speed on this uh uh we've been without a uh justice court judge for uh several months now. And um we have a uh person who has uh they they have a quite a process that they go through to uh appoint justice, court judges uh and these people are interviewed that we ended up with three three uh finalists and uh it's falls on the mayor to sort of have come up with a recommendation to the council for the justice court judge for Tmont And uh my recommendation is that we go with um Dustin.

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Oh my word. I've known him since he was free. My mind just went uh Justin Eric Dustin Ericson um to be our new Dream Mountain Justice Court Judge and council. We just need to have a ratification from from the council on this. Yeah, I'd definitely make a motion to Okay. Motion by Yes. Brett, seconded by W Blair, and uh let's see. Just all in favor? Yes. Yes. Yes. Any opposed? Yes.

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Uh hearing none. Uh motion passes. Dustin Ericson will be our new Tree Mountain Justice Court Judge. That's great. Uh review of the calendar coming up. Uh let's see. Should we go to the calendar for a minute?

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Thank you for All right. Thursday, our city party, uh 5:30 p.m. at North Park. We'll make sure that we uh take a good hard look at that area that you're concerned about u on that and make sure we get that taken care of if we can. Um the 23rd is our town hall overlook development reszone. Uh given given everything that we talked about, is this something we want to uh continue with? This was just our suggestion is having the town hall that night because planning commission will be cancelled that night. So we wonder if that would be a good night maybe a good night to have more discussion

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will be there or can be there. I thought we were going to do a workshop first and and let them come and present the whole thing to everyone or we before the town hall or were we going to do those together? I you know we we really need we need them to present it, let everyone see the idea, maybe bake it a little bit and then come back and and then discuss it. I I sure enjoy town halls cuz the format of you got three minutes and that's it and I can't dialogue drives me crew crazy. So I'm excited to be able to dialogue through, you know, some of the issues. So do we want to

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collaborate with the town hall or you want to have sort of sort of a workshop before that and then the town hall. Let's do the workshop on the 23rd. Okay. All right. Can we make that change then? So, not town hall work. Just a workshop on that. Can we have a town hall right after? Maybe. Presentation's got to be what, like 20, 30 minutes? Yeah. I'd love to just go from like a workshop into just as long as the public knows that, right? That we're going to present the idea first, then we'll open it up and answer questions. Okay.

3:56:17 – 3:56:560

All right. So, uh, workshop, what time do you want to start with the workshop? Where is mud? 6 o'clock for the workshop and, uh, the town hall following. Nobody's listening. I'm listening. Okay. 6 workshop at 6:00 and town town hall following say at 6:30 6:30 1 hour to do the workshop okay do we need a full hour for the workshop I don't know developers will present a half hour you guys have questions then you're going to have questions and

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even if you take a 15minute break between Yeah. So, let's just start at 6:00 and then we'll go with the council meeting at I mean the town hall at 7:00 and Main Street Showcase. We're we're excited about this. They um Main Street Steering Committee has worked really really hard on putting this thing together and and uh along with Jeff and and all those who have been working hard with Jeff um to get this ready to go. It's going to be it's going to be great and it'll be a a great opportunity for people to see how they're actually going to have kind of a lifesize uh mockup of uh a section of Main Street and uh there at the uh fairgrounds in the home arts building. Uh it's going to be really good and be able to see kind of how this thing is going to really start coming together and and we're really excited about it. And I just want a big a huge shout out to the steering committee for all of the work they've put into getting it to this point. That's on uh the 29th from 4:30 to 7:30. And then uh the League of Cities and Towns fall conference in Salt Lake. And I think all of us are going this time. So that's really exciting. farmers market um coming up on the 4th, let's see, the 4th Friday from 4 to 8:00 p.m. at Schuman Park. So that'll be the next farmers market and get out on the second Saturday. So I think that's everything. Um I want to uh let's see. Let's let's move on here to um any unfinished business. Um, Lindsay, anything? Okay, we're just going to go on to council reports. Instead of having the directors give

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their update, we're just going to have that again be a monthly uh email that's going to go to the council members to help us move things along a little bit. Council reports, let's see, Brandon, let's start with you. He he I believe he left.

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Oh, did he leave? Okay, then Bo. Um, I don't I don't think I have any additional comments just other than I love this city and I love the people in it. you know, as I stood there watching the procession go by and all the people that turned out and I just I and as I've talked with citizens and there's citizens that are engaged in healthy ways and providing solutions and feedback and I hope they recognize the gratitude that we have for all the hours that they're putting in to help us as city council be informed. Um, so it's seen and valued and and we appreciate it. And on the flip side of that, I think there's some citizens that are going about it in an unhealthy way. And to them, I would counsel to please come with solutions and be synergistic and be careful with the way you frame information cuz, you know, it can divide people quickly. And um, I'm just grateful for for this place we call home. Thank you for coming.

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I care a lot and I hope that you're okay with what I'm doing.

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I I e I echo what Bo said. I think we got to be careful after what's happened the last couple of weeks of the rhetoric about how people get mad about something. Because I'm sitting up here and all I think about when people bring up stuff and I hate it is I see dollar signs like, "Yeah, we need the sidewalk, but we don't have the money." And and that's my program because when I used to sit down there, it was easy. Yeah, we ought to do all that, but there's not enough for now. But we got to Yeah, we got to be we can't name calling and stuff and and you know we see social media is terrible. I mean it's just a cancer because if you can say it without saying your name what there's no validity in it. It's just it's it's bad. And I but for the most part if we if somebody has a solution that I've said that when I was running if you're just complaining the whole time you're not you're part of the problem. You got to come up with some solutions and so that's all I got to say.

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Yeah, I agree. I think our citizens are doing a great job of helping us out. I'm this last couple months has just been horrible and it's it's heart-wrenching, but there's been some hope and joy in seeing our community come together um see our nation come together for the most part and and I'm optimistic that we'll see that in our community and continue to see that. So even if we're on opposite sides of the coin, we're going to come together. Thank you. Wes.

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Yeah. I think a lot of them same things. I I don't like the way our country is. Um but I'm sure proud of our city and you know the trauma that we've been through. Um our police department, you can see our public works is starting to float up and we we have a lot to do and and not a lot to do with it. Um, I'm still one that says without growth, which we are managing, I thought pretty good, that we'll be able to get what our citizens want. We're we're just like everybody else. Money's a little tight right now, but I I know that we'll get some parks and trails and sidewalks and all that. It's just being a little patient with us. We're doing the best that we can. We we do listen with open minds and but I still want to thank everybody for their commitment and involvement and all that. All I have. Thanks, Wes. Um I just want to echo everything that's been said uh here tonight. Um I want to thank all of those who have commented uh for your input. I think that factors uh into the decisions that are being made. uh we have to when you're when you're on this side of the of the dis up here you're you're having to the way you're thinking is at least the way I'm thinking is okay what's best for the whole community and we have to balance that with uh with interests you know uh that we have from from the public from you and and and and as we're going through this we need to be able to somehow figure factor a way that is going to work for, you know, it's we we're never going to have it work for everybody. Uh you're

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never going to see that on this side of the we're never going to get that on this side. But as we work together and maybe as we learn lessons from what has occurred over the last almost a month now, um you know, we've we've learned uh what we don't want to be as a community. We've had that drilled into us. At least I have had that drilled into me over and over and over again. Um, what we don't want to be. What we do want to be is a community that is willing to talk and to be able to work out a a fairly serious issue. We've got to work this we got to work this through for all of us. And uh there might be some compromise on both sides that are going to have to be made, but somehow we're going to work this out. And I think that's the lesson that I've learned from everything that's gone over on over the last little while is that we can work it out. We're going to find a way to make this thing work. And um and so I I just I'm thrilled with the uh with the interest and the comments and the concerns and uh I'm grateful to um Brett for all the work he went into getting this ordinance uh to this point. And I think he's done a really really good job. And I think that we need to there's still a little work we need to do and we're going to make it right and we're going to we're going to make things work. Um we'll find a way to do it and and and that's just the way it is. Um so my heartfelt thank you, you know, to all of you for what your comments and everything and we'll work this through. Um I don't think I have anything else. Oh. Oh, I just wanted to also um uh

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recognize, you know, we we did the proclamation earlier. I I just want to recognize our uh those who are involved in public safety, um whether they are part of our police department, the sheriff's department, um or EMS, uh firefighters, all of those who watch after us. I just want to publicly thank them for what they do for us on a day-to-day basis. And it's just like just like our water and everything else, we just take advantage of it. We just expect it and it's going to be there for us. And these people make sure it is. And so we're just very grateful for that. And that's all I've got. Um, with that we have one more motion and

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I'll make a motion we adjourn. Second. Okay. All in favor? I Is anybody anybody say no? Okay. Thanks, Cynthia. All right. Thanks everybody. Nice.

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