Common Council - Regular Meeting

Chai Dhu, Nyaan Sameeth Anu. I arrived. The clock is running there. Yes, it is working. Time has passed 5 hours and 11 minutes. The committee of the common council of the city of Lawrence, on September 8th, 2026, I am now starting as an employee. The American prayer. I pledge to be a nation that gives freedom and justice to all, for the sake of the American people and for the sake of the Republic. Father, we come to you with gratitude and gratitude. We thank you for all the blessings you gave us that day. Lord, we ask you to keep our public safety workers safe. Lord, give special blessings to the city of Lawrence. May you bless everyone who works for the good of Lawrence and everyone who helps to make this city a better city for everyone to live in. We ask all these things in your mighty name. Amen. Amen. Today, both Councillor Jennings and President Cramer are not here, but we have the necessary quorum. Next agenda, and we can assume that we have quorum. According to the Indian Open Door Act, this meeting is held in the back of the meeting room. Today, we have some things to discuss that cannot be completed. The first suggestion is for Madam Clerk to read that certificate. Instruction No. 1, Article 1, Chapter 2, Section 12, Article 1, Article 2, Article 1, Article 2, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1, Article 1

Okay, thank you for reading the title. Is there any discussion in this suggestion? Is there any discussion about suggestion number 1-2026? I have some wishes, that is, If the tax is $ 5000 or less, it will be difficult for the controller to distribute more tax on it. Yes. This will hinder the activities of the council. Because vendors will not receive money at the right time. This can be adjusted according to the law. So, I am sorry about this.

You must forgive me. Yes, I think this is against the council.

Yes. I also have that desire. Anyone who works as a business owner like you will be affected by this behavior. Yes, it will be affected.

I am Councilor Robinson.

Thank you for this opportunity. Um. I don't agree with this. Because when I asked for the details about loans and debt, it was often about avoiding us. We don't know. But they need us to pay them back. If it's $5,000, it won't stop them from getting the money. We just want to get the details. They've sent me this to tell me not to pay them more than $5,000. They only need a small amount of money. Umm, Council member Robinson, let me ask you a question, because I need to talk to you.

Umm, when you decide to deposit $5000 in the bank, how do you plan to deposit it? Do you want them to be in touch with the council for anything more than $5? Or do you think that's how it should be done? Anything more than $5. They should come before us, before the council. What do you think about the general election? Yes? Which vote for the general election? Which vote? Okay. So, whether it's $5,000 or whatever we decide, whether it's a vote for the council or not, in your opinion, the board should be in charge of the general election, right? Is that so? Yes, sir. Okay, okay, okay. That's enough. Anyone else have anything to say? There's a lot of discussion about this. Council member Wells, do you have anything to say about this? I'm working with Council member Robinson. In some of the meetings we had with the controller, there was clearly one. There's going to be a huge shortage of financial resources by the end of this year. I don't think there will be any funds for the next year. Actually, I was told that there will be a big gap. Yes. This is my wish for the coming year. If I haven't made any mistakes, I don't think they are very interested in managing expenses. That's why. It will be in the hands of this council. And, according to their next law, what comes to my mind is that it is the law of another lobbyist. I think that if there is a chance to create a big financial revolution next year, it will be more than necessary to appoint a lobbyist. This $5,000 debt was accepted by the Moon Council. That day, the Mayor was also involved in it. The Moon Mayor felt that it was a huge debt. So, they felt that it was an acceptable debt in the investigation carried out by the former Council and its members. Then it was decided that the majority of this money It is accepted by the Board of Works. It is in Proposal 3. We immediately talk about it. It is just a phase. If there is anything to pass through the board, that is the place for it. There is no one in the Board of Works. That is what I understood from what I studied. I don't think anyone has ever said no to them. Let's put it that way. To be honest, I don't know if anyone has ever said no to the Board of Works in the history of the city. There was only one opposition when the construction of the police station was only allowed for a short time and when more than $4 million was spent. One person said no to the Board of Works. Three days later, they were dismissed and another person was sentenced instead. So, I believe that there are internal problems in this situation. Then, this is another desire that I wanted to achieve. In most cases, we submit bills as payment and approval. So this is my question. This is what I asked our legislator, and this is what we found in the previous council. Our legislator said not to do that. That's a big risk for the case to come. Then let me ask what these bills are for because we are investigating. Because we can't say we don't want it. There is a fear that there will be a case. Then why are they doing it? I'm getting older. I won't be around for long. So I don't want to waste time on unnecessary things. As far as I'm concerned, passing these bills is just a waste of time. As far as I'm concerned, this recommendation gives us some authority. About things that can be calculated at an excessive cost. That is my opinion. I am working with Councillor Robinson. Council. Go ahead.

I think both things can be corrected. Our responsibility is to represent the city of Lawrence. I would like to hear what our speaker says and what his opinion is. Because there are other ways to represent the city of Lawrence and do what we have to do. Good. Let me say one more thing. I will end it. To give you an idea, Cartelist Group has signed a second new contract. Do we know what this new contract is for? Is it for money or for new jobs? We don't know. It has just arrived. Thank you.

Councillor Freeman.

Thank you. I am Councillor Boyd. If we calculate it as $5,000, no one will be interested in doing business in the city of Lawrence. That is, no one will be ready for $5,000, but I know that it will go to the general public and they will get approval from there. If $5,000 is less than $25,000, It would have been nice if we could get some feedback from the controller about how we do business. That's a good question.

That's a very good question. I don't know if the controller is ready to participate today. But that's a very good question. If they're not ready today, I think you can email them if you agree. Okay. Councillor Crowe.

Thank you, President. Excuse me, Vice President. I need to be clear. Only if Mr. Mears can help us in this. Section 111.2.1.2. Second, the lowest on the first page of the instruction is that all service providers and consultants who know that an investment of more than $5,000 per annum or more than $5,000 per annum is expected. So, we are talking specifically about the beginning of a project or a relationship, right? Not about a line number coming in our voucher when the job is completed. That's right.

As far as the legal advice from the Council is concerned, I have to give it to you outside the public hearing, so we can make sure that you can speak in secret beforehand.

Okay, that's a good idea. We are going to see it. That's a great idea. We can see it after that. Okay, that's in my mind. So keep it that way. I can give you an idea according to his advice. I don't know if this is something we can discuss today, Council. But I have a question related to the $5,000 deposit. Because if the money is transferred, I think this is going to the person who has the right to deposit the money. So I think we need to discuss that. So my question is this. This is my first suggestion. The Mayor will be exempted. Do you want to get approval before you submit the deposit? That's one thing, and that's another. Okay. Okay. Forgive me. My question will be the same. I meant, if we decide to pay 5000, should we be able to get an immediate consent? How do we handle it? Right? That's what I think. Council and Mayor are Tamil. Is this the best way to get rid of disbelief? That's my question. Okay. I want it to happen. But I'm afraid. Last week, at the workplace, we tried twice a month to find out if it was one or the other. And then... There were vouchers. There were vouchers. I went to the police department and the fire department. I went to various departments. I asked them to give me some examples of the problems they face. I realized that this is a big problem. The fact that vouchers are given once a month makes this problem even worse. I can fire you. Yes, sure. So, this is my wish. Are we making things more complicated? Is there any other way we can use? To get the same result, that would be my question. I don't know if this is a useful meeting or not. Yes, it is. Right. Then, right. Council Robinson, I'm sorry.

I think we definitely need a meeting. Because if the bachelors examine, the bachelors examine. Looking at the claims, some of the bachelors' invoices in July are in it. Yes. It did not come close to us in August, but now it has been included in the September claims. That is more than 30 days. Yes, that's right.

Yes. That's a lot.

But some bills in August have come close to us as payment in September. So you have to check what you did in the office. That's not our fault, is it? Because all invoices have to be closed within 30 days. Isn't it? I agree.

But a department priest approached me and asked if we could do anything about it. When I conducted the investigation, I realized that it was a problem that had been going on since I had just arrived. Okay, where, where, where? I'll call you. I don't know if this is related to our conversation. Okay. I want to make sure that the $25,000 is enough to solve the problem we have to solve. That's the question we need to ask. Right. In terms of time, I think we need to think a bit more about this. But through this public hearing, pardon me, this is not a public hearing. If there are any comments or wishes related to this to the public in this committee meeting, I would like to give a small opportunity to share it. Therefore, if anyone in the public has anything to say related to this committee meeting or proposal, this is the time for it. Okay, since there is no one here, let's move forward. Okay, so can you give me an order to change this? So I give you an order.

I give an order.

I give an order. So I have an order. Councillor Jenning gives an order. Councillor Robinson. I have a question. What?

You are in between this. We are in between this.

You are in between this. I don't understand why we are changing this. What? We are changing this. We are changing this. We are changing the proposal because we don't have any new information to discuss. So, we will continue to change it and stop it in the committee. That's the thought, right? This will be stopped in the committee itself. So, we can move forward to do more discussion on this. Okay, we have been talking about this for so long. I don't think there is anything else in this. But, I don't know if this is the first committee hearing for this. I know that this has been on the list for a long time. We decided to rewrite it when we first proposed it. Then we didn't approve it. That's why I'm trying to do it in the process of rewriting it. But you know, that's what's been approved now, i.e. to change it. You can vote in favor of it, but that's the proposal. That's why it turned into a proposal. It also gained support. Proposal number 1 is to be changed.

Let's start voting in the council.

Yes.

Council.

Yes.

Councilor Freeman.

Yes.

Councilor Jenny. Yes. Councilor Joe. Yes. Councilor Robinson.

Yes.

Councilor Boyd. Yes. Councilor Williams. No. No. Okay. Then that's four. Okay. Okay. The next item in this committee meeting is 30 minutes after 5 o'clock. That is Ordinance No. 3 of the Lawrence City Council. Oh, I'm sorry. I could have read the title. Okay, I got it. The title of the ordinance code of the city of Lawrence is the Common Council Ordinance of the Lawrence City of Indiana, which defines Article 3. This is a new business. This has to be left to the committee. This was released on August 3. Is there any discussion about Ordinance No. 3? Does anyone have any questions or opinions about the third principle? I have. Please speak. I have a wish. Yes, or something else. As I said earlier, you know, right? As far as I'm concerned, the whole of this is returning to Siddhanta and the Board of Works itself, because at least two city residents have been reduced in the Board of Works. As far as I am concerned, this is a very common thing. In the last two weeks, we were talking about this in a committee meeting here. From one of my colleagues, that is, from the staff of the Mayor, from the person who is in charge of this committee, it was understood that there is no big difference between the Mayor's law and the Council's law in Tamil. He told me that there is no difference between the Mayor's law and the Council's law in Tamil. Then I said, really, can you believe it? Double Quote. In my opinion, if a council member does anything against the council, it is the worst thing that can happen if that person is removed from the committee. But in the case of the Mayor, it is not only possible to remove that person from the committee, but also to expel them from the job. I feel that it is absolutely wrong for civil servants to operate in such comedies. I think that there are many ordinary citizens who want to participate in these comedies. Not only that, most of the comedies are paying a high price for it. On the one hand, this can help these poor people earn more. On the other hand, this is just another way to earn more for the people of Nagarasabha. Then, I think... I think this is fundamentally wrong. I have done a lot of research to find out if the Municipal Assembly members were involved in such boards and commissions, but I have not been able to find anything other than that. Anyway, this is my opinion in short. I may have made a mistake. Dan Cerner, I remember him working in our Reconstruction Commission. That's right. That's true. Okay. We have some details with us. We can share it with you. We don't have names for anyone, but we have information about some people who work in boards and sometimes work for the city council. I think some of the names will be familiar to you. Yes, we have it. We can share it with you. I only interviewed the staff I was in charge of. You may think that we will explain more about it. This is not happening for the first time. Even if we are not part of it, this is not the first time. Therefore, it does not mean that we should continue or that this is the right course of action. All of this is our decision. However, we can share some historical facts with you. What? Oh, there is something like that. True friends. Today's timetable and other rules are the reason. Um, if anyone has a suggestion to change this, I will consider it. Um, does anyone have a suggestion? Suggestion. Pindangunnu.

Pindangunnu.

Then we have the suggestion of Councillor Jennings and the opinion of Councillor Freeman. Voting is adjourned. Councillor can start from the corner. Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes

Please read it. Of course. That's a joke.

Yes. Oh, Council Wells, I think. That's my book. Oh, right.

Because it says it's dedicated to the council. You did that. As soon as the USB is over. Before that, let's try to fix this. Remember to stop that. Let me take it.