Board of Supervisors - Regular Meeting

to provide comments. If additional time is needed, it may be granted at the discretion of the chairman. Okay, that opens our first session of public comment. The microphone is open for your use.

Good evening. My name is Deb Haken. I live at 2105 Sand Hill Road, Hershey, Pennsylvania. And 26 years ago, my husband and I returned from Africa being missionaries there. And about five years ago, we met a couple on the Bullfrog Valley path who had come from the same country that we worked in. And he is a physician at the medical center And she has subsequently worked on getting her MBA and they have four children. And about six months or so ago, we met them along the path. bullfrog valley path walking and she was visibly afraid of of the ice surge whatever you want to call it and after we talked to them i wrote this poem and i'm going to share this poem with you in hopes that there will be some sort of welcoming resolution or something done to bring some sort of security to our citizen friends and neighbors, immigrant citizens who are around us here in Hershey. And I've titled this, What Has America Become? Her eyes looked down. I'm afraid, she frowned. My heart wrenched. My friend from afar had come here to stay, a mother of four like I was back in the day. I too lived in a country far, far away. I lived with the fear of malaria. Now she fears ice, not the cold of winter's vice, but the threat of masked police taking her away from her children. She and her husband are citizens, worked their hands to the bone to get advanced degrees. only to feel the fear response of flight and freeze day after day. But I will fight for her. This is not okay. Thank you.

Thanks, Ms. Hagan.

Good evening. My name is Paul Haken. I'm Deb's husband. And I'm here also to speak on the same topic. And my best friend at Bible College back in the day was a Canadian. And he and his wife used to come spend about a month every year in Florida. He liked boats and fishing, but they no longer come. to vacation in America because of the tensions that exist, conflict between Canada and the U.S. And presently, I work at Hershey Trolley Works, and I also do some Uber driving. And I've noticed that there are a lot, many, many people that come to Hershey to vacation who are from other places, who speak other languages, have different skin colors, different ethnic backgrounds. And I've also noticed the same thing on the Bullfrog Valley path, which I frequent frequently. And so I appreciate a lot. I think Hershey benefits greatly from the tourism. People that come, you can't walk around Chocolate World and not notice. that a good percentage of people in there are not white caucasian english speaking people from as their first language so i think we benefit a lot from from these people and i i love the uh i love what they bring not just their money but just their ideas and the way they look at life. And I would hate to see that suffer because they get the impression that, or if something happens and they don't feel welcome here. So I'm speaking to that idea of having some kind of a welcoming resolution. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Hagan.

Good evening. My name is Janice Regan, and I live at University Manor East, Hershey, Pennsylvania, 17033. I've spoken at these meetings before about the need to protect all of our community members. Tonight, I want to emphasize why this matters for the industry this town runs on. More than 3 million people visit Hershey Park every year, and our restaurants, hotels, and attractions depend on visitors feeling welcome here. I recently had family from out of town come to visit, and it was a delight to see how much they loved it here. From the restaurants catering to every taste to the Township Community Center, which they were surprised by the size of it and thrilled by the reasonable rates. I'm glad I got to show off the special place Derry Township is. And I want that same opportunity for all my family, including my siblings' children who came to this country through adoption. The same goes for the people who work here. Our medical center is Central Pennsylvania's only academic medical center and one of this county's largest employers. And it draws physicians, researchers, and students from around the world. According to census data, About one in eight township residents speak a language other than English at home. I want my colleagues to feel safe making their lives here, and the patients I will one day care for feel safe seeking help. I know we have a police force focused on local policing that leaves federal duties to the federal government. That commitment deserves to be set down in concrete terms. An ordinance or resolution can state plainly how we value all of our community members and draw firm boundaries about what the township will and will not do. I respectfully ask that the board put that commitment in writing. Thank you for your time.

Thank you, Ms. Riggins.

Hello, hello, my name is Ryan Hazel. I live at 647 East Derry Road. And while many people in the area might not know about the South Hanover Data Center proposal or what they can do about it, word is rapidly spreading. The Hummelstown Borough meeting last Thursday drew 100 people or more. I'm emphasizing the reasons why the residents of Derry Township want the board to seek the party status of the South Hanover Township Zoning Board hearing in August. Number one, party status gives Derry Township a voice in the proceedings. As an adjacent landowner, the township will likely automatically be granted party status. Number two, any data center built at that site will have a direct impact on Derry Township, specifically air quality and noise. Three, standing at the zoning hearing will preserve the right to future appeals should the plan be rejected by the zoning hearing board and Hanover goes to court. And number four, a 500 acre data center campus adjacent to Hershey will certainly have a negative impact on tourism with trickle down impacting all local businesses. So thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Hazel.

Hello.

I am attorney Terry Fetterman. I reside at 695 Flatera Street in Hummelstown. And I'd like to address that in my career, I have had the opportunity to represent Mexican born citizens. who actually went through the naturalization process before coming to this country and were productive and successful members of the community leading up to becoming bank presidents, et cetera. And I would just ask that when we discuss safety, safety is a two-way street, safety for our current citizens and safety for prospective citizens. I am pro-immigration. However, I am pro-immigration through proper channels. And I would ask that this township cooperate with authorities and enforcing existing laws and not ignoring them because of feelings. The laws are there. If they need to be changed, they should be changed. But as long as they exist, they should be enforced or else why are they there? Why do we have those agencies enforcing those laws? Why do we have the border? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Fetterman.

Good evening. Lou Paoletti, 156 West Reba Avenue. I'll be very brief. I know you all know me. I rarely come to the meetings due to my teaching schedule. And I just came here tonight to give a very important and public shout out to your public works department, specifically Greg Watts.

We never met before, but we've been, you're Greg, right? Okay.

We never met.

Bernardo pointed you out for me.

So, Officer Bernardo, we never met, but we've been emailing back and forth. I'll make this very brief. I do a lot of research on the local labor movement in Hershey, and while the good certainly – outweighed the bad. For those who think this town was always utopian, it was far from that. The pay in the 1930s was absolutely horrible here, and the working conditions were terrible, and the control over the town was greatly resented by the employees for a lot of different factors. There was a strike in Hershey, a very peaceful strike, that ended with terrible violence that made national headlines. And there's a very, very important marker in town that was removed temporarily for all the right reasons by the Milton Hershey School. They removed it so it would not get damaged during the beautiful restoration of 14 East. And due to some of the designs, some of the renovations that are going to happen on that property, we all thought that placing the sign back there was not in the best location. So the union hall and a couple other sort of kind of gave me informal permission to sort of kind of, you know, take this upon myself. And Greg went out of his way. He contacted Penn dot and whomever at the township. And we, we decided on a really nice appropriate location to, for the historical marker that represents, other than World War II, the most consequential event that happened in this town in the 20th century. And the marker is going to be directly across the street, very appropriately from the Union Hall at the corner of Caracas and Coco. And it will not be an obstruction to anybody. So I already spoke too long. I just want to give a public shout out because these guys don't get enough of that. And thank you. Thanks for your time.

Thank you, Mr. Paoletti.

How you doing, guys? My name is Dr. James Selesky. I have a few properties here in Derry Township, and I came tonight to talk to you guys about the proposed data center and employ you to seek party status and do everything you can to fight this invasion of our community, quite frankly. For those of you who don't know, the valley that we're sitting in right now is karst limestone geology. There's underground caverns and rivers, and we have roller coasters built on those underground caverns and rivers. We have homes built on those. We have this building that we're standing in right now sits on top of that very karst geology. Let me tell you what's going to happen if someone comes in and starts withdrawing a million, two million gallons a day off the aquifer in this valley. The cone of drainage in this valley could stretch, based on estimates online I've looked at in the Driftless region in Minnesota and based on some of the research on their withdrawals and pump tests, could be mile to miles. We've had landowners who said just the existing quarry operating dropped their water table 100 feet, took their well from 120 feet when it was running and rose to 30 when they stopped. So we're talking about things caving in under structures like buildings like this, roller coasters carrying children. We're talking about sinkholes, property damage. Not to mention my wife, who's a real estate agent, has looked at some of the research on the property value hits. You could be talking about having Deary County residents Our Derry Township residents losing 15 to 25% of their equity. The SWATI, which was just flowing at record lows, are close to, I think, 27 CFS is the lowest it's ever flowed. It was floating at, I think, 67 cubic feet per second the other week. Normal is about 360 for this time of year. As you know, the boat launch is right over there. Floating that stream is our identity. It's where my daughter and my son play. It's where I take them fishing. It was almost too dry to float at Skivoni Park below the proposed data center the other day. This data center will take our drinking water, rob us of our recreation, possibly endanger one of the most valuable business stakeholders in Hershey Park. It is built on Spring Creek, and the name Spring comes from the limestone caverns and rivers that dump into it that could collapse. That is my concern for this data center. Thank you.

Thank you, Dr. Selesky. Anybody else? Floor's still open. Okay, seeing none, that closes our first public comment session, which begins our first major agenda item, which is the consent calendar. I'm looking for a motion for the consent calendar. Would someone like to make a motion?

I'll make a motion that we approve the July 28th accounts payable to a total of $799,471.29. Thank you, Mr. Myers.

There's a second.

Second.

Thank you, Ms. Ballard. All those in favor?

Aye.

Opposed? Hearing none, the motion passes. Consent calendar is approved. Stepping into our new business, our first order of business. is the consideration of a third time extension for conditional approval over the preliminary final land development plan for Swim Hershey, Crystal Lake Drive, Plat 1392. If you recall, we tabled this last week to give these guys a bit of a chance. So, what happened?

Mr. Gimuta, thank you. Mark Ackenberg, principal with RGS Associates, representing Swim Hershey. With me this evening, Ray Brace and Chip Dye, board members from the Swim Hershey organization. As we mentioned last time, we were trying to continue conversations with the Hershey Company in advance of this meeting. I understand there have been some communications. We have nothing in writing indicating their intentions other than verbal suggestions that they are committed to the Swim Hershey project. They're wanting us to work through the conditions of approval that the project is subject to, and they would consider refiling their plan at a point down the road. That would mean we are maintaining our request for the time extension for the land development plan under the presumption that the subdivision plan that would have to be filed by the end of this month will in fact die on the vine, for lack of a better term. Swim Hershey is the one at risk, not the township. So we would appreciate the ability for the time extension to be granted for us to continue to work through the issues at hand. We've halted the filing of the PennDOT Highway Occupancy Permit, although permits are nearing completion and ready to be submitted to PennDOT related to the improvements of Sandbridge Road and the Hershey Park Drive intersection. And the reason for that was because of the precarious nature of where we stand right now regarding plan approvals. There was a condition that we were asking to be modified as part of our discussions at the last meeting and it related to, and this has been the primary issue for the last 12 to 18 months. And it is the fact that the action that had been taken previously by the board to require the Hershey Company and Penn State Health, the township to be a signature to the private ACCESS AGREEMENT OVER THE PRIVATE ROADS OF CRYSTAL WAY DRIVE, BOTH ENTITIES HAVE EXPRESSED THEIR OPPOSITION TO ADDING A THIRD PARTY TO THAT AGREEMENT. AND IT'S PRIMARILY RELATED TO THE FACT THAT THOSE ARE PRIVATE STREETS. IT WAS A LATE CONDITION THAT CAME UP. I HAD REVIEWED THE MR. EMERICK AND I HAD REVIEWED THE TRANSCRIPTS AND THE DISCUSSION THAT HAD OCCURRED. WE ACCEPTED IT AS A CONDITION BECAUSE WE'VE ACCEPTED EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN ASKED OF THIS PROJECT THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. We are committed to working through the details. If you're inclined to grant the approval for the time extension, but want some more time to contemplate and think about the modification, we'd certainly be willing to sit down and have further conversations with the Board, recognizing that many of you were not even a part of those discussions and deliberations. so that said we're maintaining uh our request for a six-month time extension as was submitted in our letter of request to the township uh if you want to have any further conversation around the modification of condition number six of the february 10th 2025 letter i'm happy to do that as well any questions i'm happy to entertain any questions from the board

Yeah, I just had a question. Maybe you could illuminate, I don't know, anyone could illuminate on why the rationale for the, oh, sorry. Sorry, the reasoning for the condition that was placed on the emergency access, if you could clarify that, maybe that would be helpful.

YES, SO THIS CONDITION WAS PLACED BY THE PRIOR BOARD DUE TO THE SIZE, THE ESTIMATED SIZE OF THE VISITORS TO THIS OR USERS OF THIS PARTICULAR SITE. THE OTHER BOARD WAS VERY CONCERNED THAT ONLY HAVING ONE ACCESS TO A FACILITY SUCH AS THIS WHERE LITERALLY HUNDREDS OF KIDS WILL BE PARTICIPATING AND PROBABLY BROUGHT BY HUNDREDS OF CARS, THAT IF SOMETHING HAPPENED TO THAT ACCESS, SINGLE ACCESS ROAD, AND THERE WAS NO OTHER MEANS TO ACCESS THE SITE, THAT COULD BE VERY PROBLEMATIC FROM AN EMERGENCY STANDPOINT. THEREFORE, YOU KNOW, WAS THE REQUIREMENT FOR THIS ADDITIONAL ACCESS WAY SO THAT THERE WAS A SECOND MEANS OF INGRESS AND EGRESS TO THE SITE. In regards to the easement and the extra language on that easement, If the township didn't require that extra language on the easement, then the parties to the easement, i.e. Swim Hershey and the Hershey Company, could do whatever they want to the easement. They could, not that I'm saying they would or that this was a plan, but they certainly at any point in time could terminate that easement and the township would have no way to stop that from happening. So in order for the township to ensure that this second emergency access remains in place while this facility is being used, the prior board, at the recommendation of my office, added this language to the plan approval so that it would be added to this particular access easement.

you if i could clarify um the emergence there there are multiple points of emergency access to the property there is one emergency access drive that has absolutely nothing to do with crystal a drive so the property is afforded two points of ingress and egress the secondary access that we're the secondary emergency point of access that this easement agreement is subject to relates to a point of access occurs at the top of the hill that affords a connection to Crystal Lake Drive, which has two additional points of ingress and egress. So throughout the discussions regarding this project, there have always been an onsite point of emergency access. This is a secondary point of redundancy. We've had multiple conversations since the very beginning of this project that have included the introduction of boulevards. There has been exploration of an access point on to, not Sandbridge, Ray, help me with the name. Kiefer. On to Kiefer Road. Staff advice to us was work with your neighbors. We chose to work with our neighbors. Maybe we shouldn't have. Maybe we should have built an access road onto Kiefer Drive and completely avoided this, but at a redundancy and a cost that was imperative to the project, frankly. From the standpoint of emergency access, we've offered the notion that We were asked originally, and there have been multiple versions of this agreement. We were asked originally to provide notice to the township if the agreement were terminated. No one had a problem with providing notice. The impasse occurred when the township asked to be a signatory to a three-party private street agreement. Emergency access, and as the Hershey Company has shared with us in multiple occasions, they would be looked upon poorly if they denied emergency access across their property. And who's gonna tell a fire truck on the way to the service of an emergency that they're not permitted to cross the land? This is the challenge that we're facing. And frankly, it's reached the point where this could be the demise of the project entirely if we're not able to satisfy this concern. It's a condition that was imposed on the project that we accepted. Absolutely we accepted. We probably should have taken a firmer stance at the point in time when it was raised, but we were trying to move forward with the project and felt that we had the ability to at least try to work with those property owners. We've reached an impasse. So the condition is important to the future of the project. And again, if there's a desire to sit down with you and give you more information, we'd be happy to explore the depths of three years worth of work.

a little taller than me. Hi, I'm Ray Brace and I'm president of Swim Hershey, a resident of Derry Township. Just to clarify on how we got to this point with the emergency easement, because I know there's at least three new board members that would not know the history. When we put in for the sketch plan, three years ago, by the way, in July of 2023, we had a emergency exit off of what used to be called Front Street. If you go over Sand Beach Road down the hill, there's a Front Street there, totally on the property that we were leasing with the option to buy. The township staff, rightly so, at some point said, well, that's great, but you're merging your main entrance okay and the emergency entrance at the foot of the hill and so now you only have one road going up the hill so there could be a possibility of an accident or something that would block okay both at the same time we said we understand that and uh what we offered was let's do two roads going up okay separate them appropriately and now you have uh you know not one accident could interfere with both. The township staff said, yeah, that's a boulevard concept. And while it's viable, we don't really feel that that's as good an idea. And we said, okay, we had an estimate done to serpentine up the hill from Kiefer Road uh separately totally separately from our other entrance and the response was well while that would work uh it's very difficult but we prefer that we don't approach the site from a country road i think we all know the conditions of kefir road and we said okay we understand that so then uh chuck yamrick said look, why don't you go talk to Hershey and Penn State Health and get easements on their roads so that you can then have two ways of getting down to Hershey Park Drive, much better way for emergency vehicles to enter and in the event of an evacuation, a much better route for people to follow. So we opted to keep both. On our plan, you'll see that the front street emergency easement is still in place. And we had signed agreements with Hershey and Penn State Health to enter and exit both directions on Crystal Way Drive for emergency vehicle access, as well as for evacuation route. We presented those to the Township. And then Chuck Emery came back and said, Hey, we've been thinking about it. Can you go back and get us two weeks notice? And we said, you don't know how long it's taken us to get these agreements in writing, but if that's what you require, what you need, we'll do our best to get it. And so we went back and we started and had at least two of the ones done when the new requests came in that, uh, we were required to provide standing. So we went back to Hershey and Penn State Health almost 18 months ago. And their process is slow. Their attorneys looked at it, they reviewed it, they went to outside counsel. They tried, I think, everything they could to come up with a solution. But at the end of the day, we're not willing to give up their rights to the private road. So what we then suggested is that Township has ultimate control. If we lose our emergency vehicle access, you simply pull our CO, shut us down. And we would agree not to contest it because why would we run a facility if we don't have appropriate safety measures for people who are at that facility or for emergency vehicles to enter? And then finally, it came from Penn State Health, who said, what kind of people would we be? What kind of an organization would we have if we would deny, without any agreements, emergency vehicles from coming across our properties to serve someone who's in need of help? And yet we still have those agreements signed. OK, they're still valid. Everyone's willing to provide the notice. And at the end of the day, you have the ultimate control. If for some strange reason, okay, those agreements are violated. But again, I don't know how, because I'm hoping we never have an emergency on the Hill. I'm hoping that we never have an evacuation. And so they're going to sit there, okay, available, okay, but hopefully never be used. So what circumstance comes up that says that we decide to change it? We don't wake up one day and after all this work to get these agreements in writing, and provide the notice to the township you required, are we going to null and void them? So it's been a long quote road to get to where we are here. And at the end of the day, I have to respect Hershey and Penn State Health because they took well over a year to review this seriously to see if there was any way they could do it. At the end of the day, they realized it was not an appropriate thing for them to do for their respective companies. So that's why we're here today. We still want to be able to resolve this. We still want to have appropriate evacuation and emergency access routes. We think we have them in place, and there are multiple, okay, more so than I think any other facility in Derry Township. So just to clarify, particularly for the new board members, that's how we arrived at this point today, okay? Thank you for your time.

Thanks, Ray. Any more questions? Would someone like to make a motion?

I move that the approval of the preliminary final land development plan for Swim Hershey-Platt 1392 is extended to January 31st, 2027, subject to compliance with items one through 28 in the department recommendation section of this agenda item.

Is there a second? Thanks, Ms. Beller. Is there a second?

I'll second that motion.

Thank you, Mr. Myers. All those in favor?

Aye.

Opposed? Nay. Motion carries three to two.

Thank you. Any further discussion on the modification request or shall we table that for a future discussion?

Yeah, this be a future discussion. Okay, that brings us to our next agenda item. The final land development plan for 1245 Cocoa Avenue Hotel, Platte 1423. Leslie. Leslie, can you bring stuff up on the screen for us?

I sure can. Please. What would you like to see?

The plan for this, the basic plan for this. I should have done that for the Swim Hershey thing too, but I didn't want to interrupt the gentleman. And I assume the applicant is here. Who's gonna speak for the applicant?

You want me to do an intro? Yep, sure.

Go ahead. We need you at the microphone, Derek. Thanks. Yeah.

All right, at the Derry Township Planning Commission meeting on July 7th, 2026, a motion to recommend approval of plat 1423 with conditions resulted in a two-two tie vote. Because the vote resulted in a tie, the motion failed and therefore the Planning Commission forwarded plat 1423 to the Board of Supervisors with no formal recommendation. The Dairy Township Shade Tree Commission reviewed the preliminary plan at their October 27, 2025, and made some recommendations that have been addressed on the final plan. I don't see any more highlighting. I think that's the basic premise for you.

Good evening, Derek Dissinger, Steven Zelie, attorney for the applicant. This board has seen this plan before. We have preliminary plan approval. The waivers that were requested related to this plan have all been granted. So the result of that tonight is we're here with our final plan. There are no additional waivers. So the plan in front of the board is fully compliant with your ordinances. You have a staff review letter from June 24th. I'm sure the board is all seen. The final plan is overwhelmingly consistent with the preliminary plan. There's one, two, three, five bullet points on page one of Chuck's letter that have some pretty minimal differences from the preliminary plan. As Ms. Rhodes pointed out, the Planning Commission was 2-2. I'm sure your solicitor has probably shared the letter that I sent regarding that meeting. Those dissenting votes were unrelated to the plan's compliance with your ordinances entirely. And the Planning Commission, every member noted that the plan in front of you is fully compliant with the ordinances. That's all I have in terms of prepared remarks.

Thanks. Are there any questions from the board? No, I actually do have a couple. Sure. If I may. In one of the letters from the Planning Commission, the July 7th letter, it mentions that we should not consider approving this unless three issues were addressed. And one was sightline easement on the plan. Okay.

Correct. And Kevin Embers here, he can comment on that. That comment came from Chuck and was added to the plan. And that was actually, Kevin, that was resubmitted, correct? You're going to have to come up to the microphone, unfortunately. But Kevin Ember, our engineer.

Yeah, Kevin from RITU. That was a comment that actually PennDOT brought up as part of HOP, and Greg is here too from TPD that can help with that. So per Chuck's request, we did show that on the land development plan. That's still going to be worked out, the final location as part of the HOP, but we have demonstrated that for Chuck's request.

Okay, thank you very much. Thank you. Let's see. On the June 24th letter, let's see, staff item number three. Oh, there we go. Have the corrections or alterations been made to the plan as outlined in item number three of the June 24th Planning Commission staff comments?

Yes, and... I feel bad saying this because Chuck's not here, but number three- It's all right, you can say it anyway. No, number 3A was actually already on the plan. Okay. And I know that because Kevin sent it to me to compare against the settlement agreement. That's a pretty long sort of cut and paste of the terms of the settlement agreement. That is on the plan. And then 3B refers to the ministerial items. uh that developers agreement the stormwater management agreement providing a cad file but yeah the addition of 3a was um uh i think chuck actually missed that was already on the plan okay yeah i knew some of that stuff's kind of lengthy so yeah and the last one was from the hrg review letter uh june 22nd i don't know if ryan wants to help me with this or not oh yes i called your name um

Have all the comments detailed in HRG's review letter number two been addressed to the satisfaction of HRG?

Yes. Currently, they're working with FEMA to get the FEMA approval, and then they're also working on their highway occupancy permit. So those comments, as long as they get those approval, would be deemed approved or acceptable at that point. Okay.

Thanks, Ryan. I'll call on you later. I have one more question not related to this. We had an outside resident actually made a comment and I think we discussed this before, but I just want to make sure there's a road church road up the way up the road there for a little while. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but we had discussed this way back when.

Yes, I remember.

And I think the final conclusion was that Church Road is outside the scope of the development. So we weren't considering that.

Correct.

I just wanted to make sure that I was on the same page.

Yeah.

And hopefully he's hearing this on YouTube. So, all right. Those are all the questions I have. Does anybody else have a question?

No, I just have a statement that I must recuse myself as I am employed by RATU, who is the main development plan designer.

I just had a quick, just clarification-wise, I don't know if it's depicted in the photo that's up right now, the path or the extension of the sidewalk is actually going, do we have a photo that actually shows where that's actually going to be? Okay.

We have plans that we've provided Chuck and Pat Armstrong. I don't know if they've made it in here. It's not in that folder. But we have provided plans that show the path and show the public right away and show the path within the public right away. And we've also been in communication with our nearest neighbors, informing them that, hey, we're putting a sidewalk in. It's within the public right of way. We'll give you notice when it's coming in. We'll make sure we address any concerns that you might have when we put it in.

Does the sidewalk go down to the driveway?

It does. So there are three intervening properties. The third one being the trust property that has the access, right?

And you have sufficient right away for not only putting in the sidewalk, but also constructing the sidewalk? Or are we going to need temporary construction easements?

that that is definitely an open question um it we think we have enough for the construction and the sidewalk itself that's our current belief the last communication we had on this um with pat was we gave them the plans we had and said hey these are the plans we have we we they're pretty good you know they show the dimensions we know how much room we need to get a sidewalk let us know when the township wants more detailed plans with us actually sending Kevin and his team out and coming up with something a little more formal. So we'll work with the township on timing on when you want to see that.

And just for clarification's sake for everyone, both the township and the developer are treating this as a separate plan. Yes. It's going to be built as part of this development, but we're treating it as a separate plan and it's not part of this approval.

Correct. Yep. And that's in our settlement agreement. Mm-hmm.

All right, folks.

And I'll just ask a question. Currently at that intersection with Coco and Fishburne, you can't turn right on red and you are putting in a right hand turn lane. And would you expect the flow of traffic to move more smoothly through there?

I will answer that even though Craig is here and I think he's itching to talk, but the, the, the studies that we have done have, have actually shown that we believe traffic will flow better with our project and those traffic improvements than it flows right now with that being a vacant property. So we're putting in the right-hand turn lane. The no turn on red goes away. It gets re-synchronized. Crosswalk gets realigned. There's additional right-of-way granted. We think it's a better traffic situation than it is today with no active use on the property.

Actually, that's a good question. Ryan, I've got a question for you related to this. What's the present grade of that intersection? Do you know off the top of your head? Not off the top of my head, but I can certainly look at the grid.

The level of service? Yeah. Craig, you might be able to answer that better than I can. And what does improve it to? Craig, do you know that off the top of your head?

Craig, you're going to have to come up to the microphone and introduce yourself.

I can pull up the report. I put you on the spot there, Greg.

Good evening, Craig. Wow, TPDs. Give me two seconds. It's a 400-page report, and I just got to get to the right page. um so today overall it is a level so just i won't dive into it traffic is graded like uh what you would see in a report card it's a through f and it just it's associated with range of the way that residents experience your drivers as they go through and then in essence your responsibility based on your ordinance and pen that is to make sure that that grade doesn't go down within certain parameters So today it's a level of service C, which is considered acceptable. That may not match up. It's better what I thought it was. And it goes to a B with the improvements that we do. So it actually gets better. And it's largely because significant right turns from Fishburne onto Cocoa, no right turn on red. We had a right turn lane, get rid of the right turn on red, and it substantially improves the flow.

Are there any further questions? Would anyone like to make a motion?

I'll make a motion that the final land development plan for 1245 Cocoa Avenue Hotel, Platte 1423 is approved subject to compliance with items one through 17 in the department recommendation section of this agenda item.

Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Corrado. Is there a second? Thank you, Ms. Ballard. All those in favor?

Aye.

Opposed? Hearing none, the motion carries. Congratulations.

Thank you very much. Have a good night.

Okay. Our next item of business. Authorization. to advertise amending the code of ordinance of the Township of Derry at chapter 210, vehicles and traffic section 210-40, parking of truck trackers, trailers, motorhomes, buses, and certain other commercial vehicle prohibited in certain locations by amending subsection B to include segments of Hillcrest Road, West Areva Avenue, West Granada Avenue, and West Caracas Avenue. Chief Warner.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The police department and the township have fielded complaints over the last couple of months or more regarding certain vehicles parking along residential streets in the western end of the village area of Derry Township for extended periods of time. Some of these vehicles are commercial vehicles, including but not limited to passenger buses and other types of commercial vehicles which are affiliated with patronage of One hotel at this point, soon to be two hotels. Some of these vehicles, when parked along the street, remain running. This has created a quality of life issue for residents in the area. The noise of the running engines can happen at all hours and has disturbed the peace of the nearby residents. Exhaust fumes from the running of engines have also become an issue. And these large vehicles have also created sight distance issues for other motorists, bicyclists and pedestrians driving, riding or walking in these areas. While we're proposing these parking restrictions for these type of vehicles, we are going to leave the ability for a designated area for unloading and unloading in front of the true hotel. So passenger buses and delivery vehicles can temporarily park to board and deboard passengers or deliver product to the hotel. There will be a cost to this ordinance in the way of posting the signs. We're guesstimating in the area of 40 to 50 signs would be needed to properly post the restrictions. The cost would range from anywhere from $3,200 to $4,000 dependent on how many signs and posts would be needed to properly post it.

Thank you, Chief.

Are there any questions from the board? Yeah, I just have a question about enforcement. Is it a finable offense? Is it a towable?

It's finable, similar to what the other parking ordinances that we enforce. We currently have a similar ordinance over on Briarcrest Drive, Hillview, to restrict some of the commercial vehicles that we're parking in that area. So we do issue parking tickets from time to time. If the vehicle is left there long enough, we have the opportunity We have the option of towing in it as well, but it's usually a parking fine that would apply to it.

Understood. Yeah, I was looking through the ordinance. We have quite a few different streets in the township that have some kind of restriction.

Right. I had a quick question. Are you done, Rob? Hi. We're talking about Hillcrest Road, West Areva, West Granada, and West Caracas, correct, Chief? Is it limited to those four?

Yes. At this time, yes. So we're attempting to address the issue around the True Hotel and then the new hotel at Hillcrest and Chocolate in anticipation that there might be some buses and other commercial vehicles that would visit that location as well.

And the signs that we're talking about, are they... No bus parking, no truck, what exactly, you know, what are they going to say specifically?

So it's parking, I think it's the same as Bradcrest. It's parking restricted to light trucks and passenger vehicles.

Okay. And then just, again, just my 40 to 50 signs, I know it's anticipated, it's just an estimate, but it sounds like an awful lot of signs to me. Is that, and are we talking about posting them? Like I'm assuming we're talking about by the Italian lodge, et cetera, and that street there, there's only a few residential properties there, but are these signs going to be, you know, you know, constructed or resurrected in people's yards, et cetera, or.

So there'll be curbside in the strip between the sidewalk and the, and the curb. It wouldn't only be Hillcrest. You would have, the 500 block of West Caracas, 500 block of West Granada, and the 500 block of West Arriba would also be posted. And that's just to discourage them from traveling just a little bit of distance to get out off a Hillcrest and start parking in front of the residents on those streets. So that's, I think that's kind of where you get the amount of signs that are going to be needed.

Yeah. You know, I think it's a great idea. It just seems like an awful lot of signs to me.

I'm wondering if there's a way to... Hopefully it won't be that many signs. I was trying to estimate on the high side, so there wouldn't be any surprises if it would take that many signs.

Chief, does that go as far as St. Joan, like the parking lot there?

No, that would be up to... St. Joan is at the end of the 300 block, so the 400 block would not be involved and the 300 block would not be involved. There is... There is an option for this type of vehicle. So there is parking along Mill Street from Chocolate Avenue down to where the old township building used to be on the west side of Mill Street. So they do have the option if they disembark their passengers and they need a place to store the bus overnight, they could take it down to Mill Street and it would be a short walk right up to the hotel.

Just one more observation, just to get everyone on the same page. Orchard is pretty much where the end of the, the extent of it.

And I think Greg wanted to say something.

Greg, do you want to say something?

Chief will tell me where to put the signs, but every new sign wouldn't need a new post. We can often use an existing post with an existing sign and double up sign. So I just wanted to mention that.

And I'm not really a question, but really want to echo Bruno's comments, you know, to save money and to, you know, avoid sign pollution. Less is more. But also really just want to appreciate this chief and the staff for working so hard. I know we had someone come before us. It seemed like only a couple of weeks ago and complain about this. So we really appreciate your diligence in getting this moving and look forward to it.

Chief, I just have one more quick question as well. It seems like the impetus for this was the buses that are servicing True Hotel.

That was a primary. There's also been, I have pictures, there's also been other commercial vehicles. There was an oversight load that was parked in front of the True Hotel at one point. I don't know if they had equipment that was being used in the area. So that was parked on Hillcrest. I'm hoping to, I think from what it looked like, it was at the top of the hill. So it wasn't going down the incline there. There's also food service trucks that service the hotels. So they will park there. Now they aren't there forever. They're there to drop off product for the hotel. So, but yeah, there's been various types of vehicles besides the buses that have used that Hillcrest for parking in front of the true.

And assuming this passes, Will we send some type of notice perhaps to the hotel? You know, those areas that are like, again, that's really the focus of this, to let them know that there's been a

Yeah, and they did raise some concern, and that's why we kind of carved out that floating area in front of the hotel. I think they realized that the extended parking is something that would be a burden for the residents around there, and they didn't necessarily want to promote that, but they did see the necessity to be able to use that space that loading unloading zone in front of the hotel to get passengers off and on buses safely so you know i i think they're that should appease them uh in that regard uh but we will definitely communicate with them and let them know what's happening thanks chief i've got a question for you and it goes with our email uh correspondence we've been talking about um

Do you see other areas in the township where we might be able to amend this again to make me have a blanket prohibition? These types of vehicles parked long term in front of hotels, residents, etc. ?

Yes, I think you can take a look at it as far as a zone type of issue, like the downtown core overlay. Do we want to push it out over that whole entire zone, development zone, just so it takes care of everything? I think that's something that we can look at. i'm not sure what the uh the appetite is to build any more hotels downtown but uh you know we would definitely have to address things as things progress so i think maybe we take a look at it and spread a wider net and then that way it's addressed before something goes in that they have to plan accordingly for this type of parking these type of vehicles that are going to patronize their their businesses

I think that was the purpose of our correspondence. So I think we'll get Chuck together and maybe look into that and maybe down the road. But I'm not going to interfere with what we're doing here. I think this is important to get this done. So that being said, are there any more questions? No. Would someone like to make a motion?

I'll move that authorization to advertise amending the Code of Ordinances of the Township of Derry at Chapter 210, Vehicles and Traffic, Section 210 to 240. parking of truck tractors, trailers, motorhomes, buses, and certain other commercial vehicles prohibited in certain locations by amending subsection B to include segments of Hillcrest Road, West Areva Avenue, West Granada Avenue, and West Caracas Avenue be hereby approved.

Thank you, Mr. Belushi. Is there a second?

Second.

Thank you, Mr. Kerrata. I'm going to give it to Kerrata this time. There you go. All right, all those in favor? Aye. Opposed? Hearing none, the motion passes. Let's get that ordinance advertised. Okay, next one. Authorization to advertise amending the Code of Ordinance of the Township of Derry at Chapter 210, Vehicles and Traffic, Section 210-19, turning at certain intersections, prohibited or restricted by amending subsection B to restrict specific vehicles from turning right from Ridge Road at its intersection with Cocoa Avenue and adding a new subsection C, providing for penalties associated with violations. Chief Warner.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I didn't know if we were going to proceed with this item tonight or if we were going to table this.

I think we're going to have some discussion. Okay. And then we'll decide.

Okay. Let me proceed with this then. Thank you. As a part of future redesigning of portions of Cocoa Avenue, State Route 743 by PennDOT, in partnership with the Township, the intersection of Cocoa Avenue and Ridge Road will have the curb line adjusted to quote-unquote bulb out onto the shoulder of Cocoa Avenue at this intersection. This will increase pedestrian safety at that location and provide some traffic calming for motorists on Cocoa Avenue. Due to the new geometric design of the intersection, the turning radius for the traffic on Ridge Road making a right turn onto Cocoa Avenue will be limited. The restriction proposed will be for vehicles that exceed weight and length considerations to be able to make the right turn from Ridge Road to Cocoa Avenue to travel south on Cocoa Avenue. I know there were some email correspondence in reference to this today. This was my amendment, suggestions for amendment based off of what information I was receiving from HRG. But after the email correspondence today, I'm rather confused. So if you'd like to have discussion, I'm willing to discuss.

And that's why I said I want to have a discussion on this. Ryan, going to you. Can you bring up the plan for this intersection, please?

Eric did not make me aware of this. Well, good, Eric, come on.

I think we can, I mean, if you don't mind, I think we can, we have received, as the chief mentioned, some feedback from the neighbors and we can, I would like to make the motion to postpone this consideration until the next board meeting.

I think we can have a little bit of a discussion first.

Okay, sure.

Leslie, do we have anything?

Are we just trying to look at a visual of the intersection that we're talking about?

Yeah, I'm not a big fan of kicking the can down the road. I want to see if maybe this can be resolved.

If not, plans in front of me, but I could share the intersection.

Yeah, that'd be all right.

Yeah, man, at least we could get some of the questions that we want out there. I have some questions.

Just more about the operations. Well, let's try to do the issue at hand first. All right.

Okay. Do you want me to drop into street view so you can see it a little better?

All right. So the corner, let's see, that would be the southwest corner. Yeah, right there where the little man is. There is going to be a bump out, and that's the intersection where the turning prohibition would be. Now, what I understood when we were discussing this way back when is that as we construct the bump out there, if there was a – what's the size of the vehicle, 24,000 pounds?

26,000. 26,000?

Okay, so it's a semi-trailer. It would have to pull out into the oncoming traffic, and therefore we decided to – prohibit or disallow that. I think that's where the confusion is. So Chief, is that what you understood?

Yeah, that was my understanding. We also addressed the length of vehicles, which was set at 40, anything longer than 40 feet. 40 feet, right. School buses, I checked with Steve Bell. They have no school buses that are longer than 40 feet. So I didn't want to necessarily prohibit school buses from turning there if they had to. Currently, they don't have any routes that use that street. But I didn't want to make it inhibiting for school buses in the future. But anything that was longer than 40 feet would be prohibited from turning right there.

We don't have any metrics, do we, to show the number of vehicles that size to go down that road? I know there's some.

Not prepared.

I don't know that there's an overwhelming majority. It's the safety aspect that I'm kind of concerned with. If we do this and a truck does happen to come down there and pull out to oncoming traffic.

Yeah, I just have some questions too that I'd like to put out so maybe we can get them addressed for next time. Yeah, I think we are going to end up tabling this. Yeah, I think we'll table this, but I'd like to get to some. So next time we're prepared for these questions so we're not in a similar situation. I'm just curious about, again, what Supervisor Zimini was discussing, the truck counts. A little spider up here. A little guest. The sight distance from that truck. that location and then just the truck turning movements at the ball bout and in the library in case a truck would get down there and have to go through the library parking lot if a truck could actually feasibly get in there or they'd get stuck. So those are the items that I'm curious about.

And I think that is what the resident brought up that the library parking and access and especially if we're thinking about extending a bike pedestrian trail to connect up that way.

I'll make sure to relay this to Eric to be prepared for the next meeting. Thanks, Roy. Thank you. Okay, so you want to...

I'll repeat my motion that we table this agenda item until the future for additional information.

Thank you, Ms. Ballard. Second?

Second.

Thank you, Mr. Crudd. All those in favor? Aye. Opposed? Hearing none, the motion carries. The item's tabled until next meeting, which is August 11th.

Can I ask a clarifying question of Mr. Myers? Yes. When you're talking about site distance, are you talking corner site distance?

Yeah, corner site distance, both directions. In case a truck would get there, if they have to go out and swerve into another lane, I want to make sure they're not

Thank you.

Okay. We're good. Okay. Our final agenda item requesting authorization to advertise for the disposition of township owned equipment by electronic auction chief Warner. Again, you got the last three in a row.

Thank you. So Section 1504 of the Pennsylvania Second Class Township Code requires board authorization to advertise for the disposition of township personal property by electronic auction for any item with a market value of $2,000 or more. The police department has several pieces of equipment inventory that have exceeded its life expectancy or have been replaced. Increasing maintenance costs and or parts are difficult to obtain. It is recommended that the below listed equipment inventory be advertised for sale through an online public auction as they no longer serve a useful purpose for the township. Those pieces of equipment are former equipment 2695, which is a 2017 Ford F350. That has been decommissioned by the police department and replaced with a newer vehicle. uh former equipment 2696 which is a 2013 ford f-250 that has also been replaced with the newer vehicle and has been decommissioned by the police department and former equipment number 2652 which was a 2013 Ford Taurus police interceptor unit that has also been replaced and has reached its life expectancy and has been decommissioned by the police department. We are also requesting consideration to allow the police department to include additional eligible equipment as discovered prior to the date these items are placed for bid. Some of those items are some of the interior inserts for those vehicles like prisoner compartments, some storage equipment, emergency lighting and so forth that's been taken off of those vehicles. We'll put out for auction and try to sell those pieces as well.

Thanks, Chief. Are there any questions from the board? I'm out of curiosity. What's a lifetime of a vehicle? 200,000, 300,000 miles? Any idea? Just out of curiosity. I can tell you both the Ford F-250 and F-350 I think had over 230,000 miles on them. I don't know what the hours on those vehicles are because

Not in addition to the mileage, you know, they'll sit at a crash scene and so forth and run to keep the lights going on them. So the hours on those engines definitely get wear and tear as well. I've seen anywhere. I mean, the state I've seen where they'll get rid of their police cars. probably with maybe 60 to 70,000 miles on them. We're usually getting about 100,000 miles. The one I'm driving has 160,000 miles on it right now. So we'll get as much use out of them as we can. Fantastic. Great. Is that it?

That's it.

Would someone like to make a motion?

I'll make a motion that we request to advertise for the disposition of the aforementioned township-owned personal property by electronic auction as outlined in section 1504 of the Pennsylvania Second Class Township Code as amended, hereby approved.

Thank you, Mr. Carado. Is there a second? I'll second. Thank you, Mr. Belushi. All those in favor? Aye. Opposed? Hearing none, the motion carries. You're free to sell your cars. Okay, that closes our agenda items for the evening, which brings us to our next scheduled meeting Board and department head reports. Mr. Belushi, do you have anything for us?

Just briefly. So we had a meeting on the 21st. The 422 and Ridge Road drainage improvement project is officially complete. And storm cleanup of ponds and inlets continues. And town place suites is now officially open as well. We may be keeping an eye on that with regard to the bus issue perhaps, but... Other than that, I don't have anything else to report. Thank you, Mr. Bellucci.

Mr. Corrado.

Bruno took a few of mine from our DTMA meeting last night, but I'll add over 80% is complete on the Southwest plant upgrade and expected completion is still May of 2027. And as it relates to the biosolids facility, major construction is complete. Startup and testing are underway with expanded biosolids reuse expected to improve efficiency and reduce costs.

Thank you, Mr. Carado. Ms. Ballard.

Yes, we had a library board meeting and I'm sure we'll hear more and department reports, but I did want to give a shout out for the upcoming library book sale, which starts on Friday evening. And it is a great volunteer opportunity. If people haven't signed up to volunteer for the book sale, I encourage everyone to stop by the library and volunteer to help it Hopefully we'll raise over $48,000 for the friends to support the library. Thank you.

Thank you, Ms. Beller. Mr. Myers. So I also had a meeting related to the library called Library Trust this week. And Andrew Keeper, who has been the financial planner for the trust, is retiring since he was part of it since the beginning back in 1985. So he's finally setting off into the sunset. I'm sure he's a great financial planner. I just wanted to cover some of the statistics for the library over the last quarter. In April, they had 11,319 visits, 36 meetings. May, they had 11,224 visits and 27 meetings. And then June, since school was out, they had 13,981 visits, 166 new, I guess, members and 37 meetings. So I've heard that they're close to returning to the pre-COVID numbers. So that's impressive. Good things. We also have to let everyone know that next week is National Farmers Market Week. We here in Hershey, we are lucky to have three farmers markets, the one down in Chocolate Town Square. That's every Saturday, which is kind of coming to an end near the end. And it's during the summer. End of August. End of August. We have the Hershey Farmer's Market at Fishburn, which is the old corner of Govert and Fishburn Road that's open. You kind of see that as you travel through town. And then the Farmer's Market in Hershey, that's at the West End. And that's on Thursdays from 2.30 to 6.30. And then my last thing is just out of transparency, just want the township know that we had a flock presentation about their drones as first responders. The police department currently is piloting one of the drones that leaves from the downtown community building, not the community building, but the Browntown Press Building. Yeah, and it's at no cost to the township, and it's currently being evaluated for use. So I just want to let everyone know those things. Thank you, Mr. Meyer.

It sounds like we all had a busy week. I'll just second what Mr. Berlucci said. I also attended the transportation meeting earlier, and he covered about everything that was there. Okay, moving on to the department heads. Chief Warner.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just to add on to what Supervisor Myers said, putting together a presentation that we can hopefully roll out and let everybody know what our involvement is with that project. It's called Project Prove-It. So as he said, it's free to us. We're not paying anything for it. but we get to try it out. I can't tell you about the specifics today, but we definitely had a case that happened today that proved its worth in gold to this project. So hopefully we can let everybody know about that when we roll out a presentation. August 4th. is National Night Out. We will be at the same location as last year, six to eight, down to Parks and Rec. We'll be using part of the school district property in back of that, the parking lot area off to the side of the ECC. Lifeline will be landing for us at the beginning of the event. They said they can spend about a half hour there, and then they've got to take off for another National Night Out event. So I don't know if we can disable the engine or something like that. The whole time, we'll see what we can do. But right now, I think we're in the neighborhood of... somewhere around 60 to 65 vendors that are going to be there, have activities planned and so forth. The Kiwanis is coming in and they're going to be cooking up the hot dogs again. So it should be a good time, get to interact with all the public safety personnel in the township and just ask questions and have that dialogue between public safety and our community.

Thanks, Chief. One problem, I didn't hear anything about the free pizza.

I believe there will be some free pizza there.

So I'm looking forward to it. Thank you. Allison, you're next. Library.

Thank you. Well, obviously, as Sandy said, we are looking forward to the book sale this week on July 31st, which is Friday. Members of the Friends of the Hershey Public Library can come early to take a preview of the book sale. If you're not a member of Friends, you can become a member of Friends and avoid the absolute crush of people that arrive on Saturday. And so August 1st through August 4th. We have plenty of hours that people can come and browse over 650 boxes of books, CDs, DVDs, games, puzzles, and more. We had to stop taking donations because we absolutely do not have any room to store anything more. And a cool fact is that the sale has been held since 1981 with only one interruption, which was in 2020 because of COVID.

Thank you, Ms. Jackbine. Good luck on the sale. Amy Walker, Parks and Rec.

Thank you, Chairman. We're excited to be able to join in hosting National Night Out for the second year at the Community Center. Just a reminder, the Community Center will be open still during National Night Out. So we hope you come out to see the facility, enjoy the National Night Out experience as well. But we'll be open to our members in the public along with the event. Some other updates as we enter into August, so the last month of the summer for us at Parks and Recreation, but we still have a lot of programs and camps available for people to register as we kind of close out the summer season. And we're very much looking forward to online rental reservations beginning August 24th. So the public will be able to go online, dairytownship.org, go into our ActiveNet site and check availability for parks and classroom spaces and event spaces at the community center. We think it'll be a much smoother process for everyone, eliminate a lot of back and forth emailing with dates. And we hope everyone enjoys the new process.

Thanks, Amy. Hey, Amy, how's the summer going for the community center?

We are doing well. The weather has had numerous challenges with the heat and then with these storms that we've been experiencing, but we're doing well. Our staff is holding up well. Communications seem to be going really well with staff and the public. and navigating everything.

Keep up the good work.

Thank you.

Mr. Sassman, you and your new toys.

Something real quick and always fun. The 20th anniversary of the soup cook-off is two months away. Seems like it's far off, but it'll be here before we know it. What's the date of that?

Pardon? What's the date of that?

It is September the 26th. And it'll be from 11 to 2 p.m. This year also the partnership introduced a VIP early entrance ticket. So if you go out online, you can look at those and you can purchase those. That's something special that they've done. And it'll be fun to see. how that works out for everybody, but, um, always looking for chefs.

If anybody can do that and wants to cook for the community, come on out.

Um, and again, I think chefs could, uh, can be done online. Everything is done. Go, go out to, I think it's hurting bar partnership or if you, you Google soup cook off 2026, it'll pop up.

Yeah.

I've been there a couple of years. I don't think I can hold a candle to those guys.

I, they're all good. Come out and give it a try.

Especially your boy, Delilah.

I'll let him know. That's all I have for this evening. Okay.

Thanks, Dave. Mr. Who do we got left here? Mr. Watts.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I wanted to provide a road work and maintenance update to advise residents of the following upcoming roadway improvements and maintenance projects so that they can plan for potential delays and follow posted detours and traffic control measures. The week of August 3rd, which is almost upon us, as part of the MHS project at the theater building, they will be having contracted paving done on East Caracas Avenue. Not sure the exact limits of their paving, but it's from Cocoa to Java at least. It might be part of Java as well. And then the public arts department worked with MHS. School Plaza, through all the construction activities, kind of got beat up a little bit with the construction. So we're partnering with MHS while they're there with their contracted mill machine they're going to mill the alley and public works will pave it we don't have equipment large enough to mill that large of a space so that was kind of a cooperation with mhs which was save the township money and kind of a a nice thing for the residents there that have been putting up with all that construction so uh thank you for to mhs for that uh the week of august 10th uh wood road will be closed uh daily from 7 a.m to 3 p.m for planned maintenance repairs that'll be between um yeah, Waltonville Road and Wood Road. Limerick is in between there. So we'll probably close from Limerick to Wood and then from Limerick to Waltonville just to let those Limerick residents have a way out. The reason we're doing that is just for efficiency of operations. We can get the work done faster and more safely without traffic. The in-house repairs will include mill and pave, patch repairs, shoulder improvements, some storm damage restoration near the pond there in the cross pipe, removal of some downed trees left behind by Asplund and PPL. um sign repairs and replacements payment marking updates crack ceiling and guide rail repairs uh the detour will be west end avenue um so it's a it's a short detour and that detour will be posted we did communicate with started communication with the med center as there's a lot of traffic and employees going to there so they're fully aware And then the week of August 17th, Front Street will be repaved by Public Works, a portion of it, near the rear bus drop-off entrance to the Hershey Gardens. That's between Sand Beach Road and Poplar Avenue. We want to thank the residents for their patience as these improvements are completed to enhance the safety and condition of our roadways.

That's it. Thanks, Greg. And I don't need to say it, but I'm assuming all that's going to be posted out on the website. Yes. Okay. Thank you very much.

I have one last question.

Do you have any immediate information on Bullfrog Valley Road, the flooding that occurred just recently? Any immediate information?

Concerning what? A cleanup?

Yeah. I mean, it just happened a couple hours ago, but I didn't know if you had any new information or not. I do not.

Okay.

Just asking.

Go ahead. All right.

Could you repeat what the Wood Road date is? Yeah, it's the week of August 10th. August 10th. It may not take the whole week, depending on weather and other factors. If we can get it done and...

monday through wednesday that'll be great but yeah and are we doing any is was there any drainage improvements on that or is it just really strictly a repave and more cosmetic things dtma um has some drainage improvements uh in the area of limerick uh okay because i i drive through there i know there's some

Ours are more related. Some of our work will probably improve drainage. There's some base failure and alligator cracking there that probably some water sits where it shouldn't. So that should be improved. We'll cut shoulders and make sure the water gets off the roadway. And then there's

um some drainage related repairs from from the july 4th and 5th storms all right great and then one other thing uh it was brought to my attention over the weekend uh that wells fargo was doing some real early morning paving and i was just curious do they reach out to you at all if they're like going to do any construction i don't know if they took a lane so you probably wouldn't have been known i don't think there's any traffic control but i was always curious if there was a process for that if if they would reach out i saw the pa1 call i only learned of that actually um

through conversation I heard right before the meeting. I saw the PA1 call for paving, but it's on private property, so there's no highway occupancy permit or anything that would go through my department.

Yeah, that's what I figured. I just wanted to ask. The problem was they were doing it at 2 o'clock in the morning. That's what I had heard. Yeah.

I'm assuming they were prompted by wanting to match the nice blacktop that's part of a DTMA improvement and they wanted it to all match.

Well, the way I replied to that message was that there must have been some type of emergency. I mean, why would you work at 2 o'clock in the morning?

It's hot outside.

It wasn't hot that day.

All right.

Thanks, Greg.

Ryan, last time, I swear I'm not going to lie. Last time. Good evening, Mr. Chairman. I have nothing additional for the board at this time. Thank you very much.

Leslie, first time I'm calling on you.

in your capacity um i don't have anything at this time either uh for the board however for the public just to know permits are are required um and we do have many in and it's taking a bit longer than usual so if you have any projects planned communicate early and often and get those permanent applications in so we can get your project started before winter

Thank you, Leslie. And since our manager is at his daughter's softball tournament, that's all we got. So that brings us to our second public comment session. If anybody would like to get up to the podium and say something. No. But thank you for asking. I appreciate that. All right. Seeing as there's nobody there, that closes our second session of public comment.

I move we adjourn.

Thank you very much. Is there a second?

Second.

Thank you, Mr. Carado. All those in favor?

Aye.