Board of Trustees - Regular Meeting

Good evening. I would like to call the December 11th Indian Head Park Board of Trustees meeting to order. Can we please have roll call? Clerk. Trusty Ayanako here. Trusty Sana here. Trusty Eek here. Trusty Donnersburgger. Trusty Svetka here. Trusty Gaz and President Amy Joe Whittenberg here. Can we please stand for the pledge of allegiance? I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Good evening everybody. Thank you for coming to our village board meeting this evening. And for those of us on either channel 6 or our YouTube channel, we are glad that you're able to join us this evening for an important meeting. The first order of business will be to open the public hearing regarding the proposed redevelopment plan. Can I have a motion, please, to open the public hearing? I move to open the public. I move to open the public hearing for the proposed redevelopment plan and project on the designation of the triangle area tracks increment financing district. Second that.

Great. That was a first by trustee Salana and a second by trustee. Can we please have a roll call vote please?

Trusty I. Trusty Salana. Hi. Trusty Yak. I. Trustes Vetka. Hi. 4 Z. Motion carries. Great. Thank you. Before we move on to the public hearing, I'd like to do the village president's report first. Is that okay, Council? Yeah, that's fine. It's open and we can just go back to it.

Okay. Just wanted to provide an update on the Planefield Road redesign project. Cook County is currently finalizing the project report which will be submitted to the Illinois Department of Transportation for design approval for the Planefield Road redesign project. Phase one is anticipated to be completed in late 2025. This year, phase two, which is consists of the preparation of design, engineering documents, and land acquisition, is anticipated to begin in 2026. The earliest construction of phase three, which would be the start of construction, is anticipated to commence. The earliest it would be is in 2028. That is for Planefield Road. So don't be confused with the Wolf Road project. This is specifically the Planefield Road project, which is from County Line Road all the way to East Avenue. For those of you that aren't familiar with that project, public comments were collected on August 20th, 2025, and the project team will re be responding to individual questions via email by the end of this month. So, if you did have a specific question at the meeting at Highland School, they are going to be responding to specific questions via email to you directly. A newsletter was sent via email to people that have signed up to receive updates on the project website. So if you want to get updates on Planefield Road, it's the improve planefield.org link. Just like Wolfroad is wolfroadstudy.org. The second public information meeting was held on August 4th of 2025. And the fall newsletter recaps the meeting, also has frequently asked questions and discusses the next steps. All the roadway alternatives and the roadway

designs are online. I have a lot of people asking me questions about the road. The roadway designs that are currently under consideration for both Planefield Road and Wolf Road are all available online. If you cannot find them, please contact us and we will help you find those maps if you can't find them. Okay? And if you need to email the county, uh you can either mail them at info@improveplanefield.org. Our senior congregate meals will be on December 18th here at Village Hall at 1:30. We will have lunch followed by a musical performance and you should feel free to email or call Agent Care Connections if you'd like to attend our lunchon. I would like to thank our public works team. We received a $25,000 grant from the Morton Arboritum and we have also Yes, we appreciate that. And we also had to put in $25,000 from the village and all of you residents, which we appreciate, for a total of $50,000 to plant 25 new trees in the fall funded by the Morton Arboritum CRTI grant targeting areas of greatest need within the public rightway as identified by our tree management consultant and our public works team. Springrove nursery provided the 25 trees which included seven different species. Funding was provided by the Morton Arboritum. Trees were planted on no November 5th by our vendor it trees and our public works staff. New tree recipients were notified, congratulated, and provided with care instructions. Public works staff installed gator bags and mulch for the initial watering. Every planting location was photographed and documented to meet our grant standards. The public works team and tree

consultant recently completed a tree inventory for the updated urban forestry master plan aiding in the management of a healthy urban forest. The spring planting program which is also grant funded will include 25 additional trees. And I've just put up there the species, seven different species of trees to create a diverse canopy. Those are listed up there in coordination with our tree consultant. And last but not least, our annually fro annual Frosty Fest is December 21st, Sunday. If you have children, grandchildren, nieces, nephews, neighbors, bring them by 11 to 1. We have Santa and live reindeer. And even if you are an adult and you want to come visit our live reindeer, they are amazing. So, please come by to visit us. We're going to have hot chocolate and cookies and a lot of fun. crafts and all of that. So, come by right in this room. The reindeer will be outside though for obvious reasons. So, please come and join us for that wonderful event. We thank all of our volunteers that help us with that. So, moving moving right along. Tonight, our development consultants from SB Freriedman Development Adviserss who prepared the eligibility study and redevelopment plan will present an overview of the proposed TIFF district, including its purpose, boundaries, and how it supports our long-term goals for redevelopment of the triangle area. Following the presentation, members of the public will have the opportunity to ask questions or offer public comment on the plan. Also, please note that the board will not be voting on the ordinances to establish the tiff district this evening. That action is scheduled for our next

regular board meeting on January 8th, 2026 at 7 PM. You're all welcome to come here to Village Hall and join us for that meeting as well. Public input is welcome tonight and may also be submitted in writing or shared at that meeting prior to board consideration. So, if you have other feedback, we can take that feedback this evening at our public hearing. And we can also receive feedback via email or in person prior to the next board meeting on January 8th. All righty. And I think that I will be turning this over to Andrew from SP Freriedman.

Thank you. Um yeah, I appreciate the opportunity to come back this evening and um talk about some of the work that we've been doing for the village um as it relates to the proposed tiff district um around the triangle area. Um have some slides up in a minute. Thank you very much. Um to walk through the eligibility research that we've done and talk about the redevelopment plan that we drafted, which is the guiding document for this tiff district. Um, just for awareness, we are um, my colleague Jeff and I working for SP Pream Development Advisors. We're Chicago based consulting firm. Um, special district designations are one of our core service areas. So, um, really appreciate coming out to talk and clarify sort of the intentions and the goals of this district and how it will function um, and why it can be supportive of overall village goals within the triangle area. Before we get into the work that we've done, I did want to clarify and talk about TIFF generally as a mechanism. TIFF or tax increment financing is a common economic development tool used in Illinois and other states that is a way to reinvest property tax revenues into a specific target geography. Um the goal is to finance new development and new uh investment and construction. It is not a new tax levy. It does not increase the tax rate. It is a way of capturing a growth in property taxes and reinvesting that growth in property taxes within a target geography. I've got an illustration on the screen to sort of clarify the mechanisms of tiff. So when you think about the triangle area, there's an existing property value within uh among those 12 parcels. Those parcels today generate tax revenues for taxing bodies. Um, when a TIFF is adopted, the existing value of those parcels is what we call the frozen base

EAV. That amount is set in perpetuity to continue providing tax revenues to overlapping taxing districts. That's represented by the dark blue navy bars in the middle of this graph. What the TIF district does is it captures the incremental growth in property values in the associated tax revenues. And those revenues are what is available to be reinvested within the TIF district. Over time, ideally, the property values grow, therefore generating additional revenue that can be reinvested and support new development projects. And after the life of the tiff, uh, in this case, initial term is 23 years, the full value of those properties are unfrozen and continue to support tax property tax revenues collected by overlapping taxing districts. So, wanted to provide that context. Um but next I'll talk about the work we did um over the summer to assess the eligibility of this area to be a tiff district. As I mentioned the triangle area which for those who are unfamiliar is between Joliet Road, Wolf Road and the tollway consists of 12 parcels. Four of which are considered improved. They have structures and buildings on them. Eight are considered vacant and there's currently a mix of uses primarily commercial and residential as well as as I mentioned some vacant parcels. Um to conduct our eligibility work, we looked at a variety of data sources. Um we ourselves came out and conducted parcel by parcel fieldwork to look at existing property conditions. We also used publicly available data from the assessor's office of Cook County to understand building age and historic property value trends. We received from the village helpful data on building age, the presence of uh necessary utilities. We also looked at historic building permit records to understand recent private investment activity and we also wanted to make sure that what we're looking at um aligns with the goals within the village comprehensive plan which is required by state statute.

So we we reviewed that document and all these factors um and data sets together helped us understand again the eligibility of this area to be a tiff. When you're assessing tiff eligibility, um there really two assessments that happen. One uh is specific to improved land, one is specific to vacant land. As I mentioned, we have both of those present within the proposed TIFF district here. So, as it pertains to improved land, you can either find that these parcels are eligible as a blighted area or as a conservation area. Um you can see that the threshold to determine eligibility is slightly different between those two different pathways. Ultimately, uh, within the triangle area, we found that it qualifies as a conservation area, meaning that over half of the buildings are at least 35 years of age or older and the presence of at least three of 13 possible eligibility factors are present. Um, those three factors that we found are lack of growth in property value or equalized assessed value, deterioration, and the presence of structures below minimum code in addition to the age of the buildings. So, I'll talk about each of those three factors that we that we found to be present here. Starting with lack of EAV growth, we looked at um property values among the improved parcels over the last five year-to-year periods. And um based on one of the benchmarks defined in the state statute, we compared that growth to growth in the consumer price index and found that over three of the last five year-to-year periods, property value growth among the improved parcels um was less than growth within among CPI. Therefore, that illustrates a lack of EAV growth as defined by state law. And we therefore found lack of EAV growth to be a factor present areawide among the improved parcels. The second eligibility factor that we found was deterioration on four of four

improved parcels. Uh this was seen during our fieldwork. Uh what we saw was surface deterioration pertaining to cracks in public and private infrastructure, crumbling pavement and as uh some building deterioration as well, specifically missing um or deteriorating building sighting. Based on the fact that all four improved parcels exhibited signs of deterioration, we again found this factor to be meaningfully present and reasonably distributed throughout the RPA. The third and final eligibility factor we assessed and found um to be present regarding the improved parcels is the um lack of compliance with uh minimum building code. All six structures again are um not found to be within the current codes adopted by the village. While most of these are in fact grandfathered in, um it's the presence of structures below minimum code standards and the associated costs of bringing those buildings up to code that may be inhibiting the economic viability um and health of the area. Again, based on the fact that the construction date of these buildings precedes the most recent building codes adopted, we found this fact to be present um throughout the improved parcels within the district. So that pertains to the improved parcels, the four improved parcels. The second assessment pertains to the eight vacant parcels within the proposed TIFF district. Again, there are two possible paths that you can take to evaluate eligibility of vacant parcels. Um we used what's called the two factor test. Um where you have to find at least two of six possible factors present. Based on our research, we found three factors present, which qualifies the area as a blighted area um among vacant parcels. Those three factors we found were lack of growth in EAV, deterioration adjacent to vacant land, and obsolete platting. I'll talk through each of those next. As I mentioned, for the improved parcels, the same is true of vacant

parcels. Property value growth of vacant parcels was less than CPI in three of the last 5 years. Furthermore, we saw that property values actually declined among vacant parcels in three of the last 5 years, underscoring the point that there's a lack of EAV or property value growth among vacant parcels. The second factor, deterioration adjacent to vacant land, was again based on our fieldwork we conducted where we documented surface deterioration and building deterioration on both improved and vacant parcels. Um, and saw that either all vacant parcels had or were adjacent to deterioration. Um, which again illustrates that the factor was found to be meaningfully present and reasonably distributed throughout the RPA. Third and final is obsolete platting. We found five of eight vacant parcels to exhibit signs of obsolete platting. In this instance, um obsolete platting refers to insufficient access to rideway or insufficient lot area to attract contemporary development based on parcel size, shape, layout. Um any of these issues can complicate um the ability to attract new development, see new investment, and based on where these parcels are throughout the proposed district. We again found this factor to be meaningfully present and reasonably distributed. So beyond the initial assessment of eligibility of improved and vacant parcels, there are additional tests outlined within the Illinois TIF Act that have to be satisfied for an area to qualify as a TIF district. So I'll walk through our findings pertaining to those additional tests. The first is lack of growth from private investment. I already mentioned the lack of EAV growth seen on both improved and vacant parcels. And I mentioned earlier that we reviewed building permit activity within the triangle area as well. What we saw was a limited number of building permits uh mostly uh pertaining to signage or um

limited interior exterior rehabilitation but no new development no significant redevelopment or rehabilitation of existing structures. Um that's even further evidenced by the lack of EAV growth among parcels that what investment did occur was quite limited and uh did not have a uh large boost on growth in EAV and therefore we found that overall there has been a lack of growth from private investment. The second test is what's called the but for test which is an assessment um or a finding that but for the support of public entities and the use of public resources redevelopment is unlikely to occur. Again the lack of EAV growth the lack of significant new investment or development illustrates this point that but for the use of other economic development tools it's unlikely for redevelopment and new investment to occur. The the third test uh is really looking at what is the area proposed to be within a tiff. Are those parcels contiguous and are they all expected to substantially benefit? We think that the targeted nature of this tiff district supports that finding. Um additionally, as I mentioned earlier, we've reviewed the 2015 comprehensive plan for the village to make sure that the tiff would support goals outlined within that document. Um and we've again found the goals of the um village to align with the goals and use of tiff. After that is um what the state requires is a housing impact study. If there's um anticipated displacement of 10 or more occupied units based on our conversation so far um that we have the village no new development is anticipated that would result in that displacement and therefore no housing impact study was required. And then lastly, uh is a requirement to make sure that any sort of obligation or financing um supported uh with or through TIFF expires within the statemandated uh timeline of TIFF, which is which is true and documented further within the

redevelopment plan that we've drafted. Um and with that in mind, I'll switch over to talking about this redevelopment plan because it's the guiding document of the TIF district. It outlines what the major objectives are. Um it again summarizes all of our eligibility research and findings. So it's a more complete summary of the work that we've done so far on behalf of the village. It contains a budget which outlines some of the key financial metrics and um constraints of the tiff district and also talks about proposed future land uses within the tiff district. So I'll talk about each of those on the subsequent slides. Starting with the major redevelopment objectives. Ultimately, the TIFF is meant to address the blighting factors and conditions within the triangle area. So, the redevelopment objectives really reflect that intention. So, the goals being to facilitate physical improvements to buildings and structures, supporting any sort of infrastructure, repairs, upgrades, maintenance, uh improving the public realm through streetscaping, landscaping, other beautifification efforts to make the proposed RPA more attractive to new development. also um to being supporting the assembly of sites to make development opportunities among vacant sites and also support marketing of those sites. And then furthermore, zooming out a bit more broadly, TIFF generally being a tool that can support the goals in the comprehensive plan and also be one of other available tools at the federal, state, and local level to again advance the goals of the village. The budget within the TIFF plan uh has really two important um elements to it. One is that it lists all the eligible expense categories, projects and improvements that can be funded with TIFF revenues. Um so not everything can be paid for through TIFF or reimbured through TIFF, but there are specific costs that benefit public sector, the

public realm, um public generally that can be funded through TIFF. The second important element is the bottom line within the tiff. In this table, it's called the total redevelopment project costs. This is required through the state statute and this sets a upper limit on expenditures within the project area um specifically funded through tax increment revenues. So the bottom line number here is $37 million. It's quite large. That's not an authorization or an obligation or a commitment to spend those funds again based on what's required by the state. That's an upper limit on the use of TIF funds within the project area that can only be changed through amendment to this plan which would require adoption and approval by the board. I think lastly is the discussion of future land use which is required to be in part of the redevelopment plan as is the case today. Um the idea going forward is that this would continue to be a mixeduse area primarily consisting of commercial and residential uses as well as obviously public right of way. Um and this is in alignment with the comprehensive plan of the village. Um so that's a summary of the work we've done and what you can find within the redevelopment plan document. As the village president mentioned, you know, this public hearing is meant to provide information, answer any questions. Um, and it's not at this meeting that any decision will be made about the tiff district. That's at the upcoming, um, board meeting in January. So, with all that being said, um, I'm happy to step back. If there are any questions, we can provide any clarity, um, and we can go from there. Thank you.

Do we take questions at this time? See if the board has any questions yet. First, if we can have any board questions. Any of the trustees? Anybody on the board have questions? Hearing none, uh, I think we would be open to taking questions from the public. If you would come to the podium, please let us know your name. Did we receive any questions uh on email? Andre clerk? No.

All righty. I am not hearing any public questions. Come on. Okay. So, hi, I'm Tony Colant, Studio Suites. Um, this will affect everyone's taxes in in park or just a tiff area. just that area it won't affect taxes.

Can I help answer that? So it's very technical the way the presentation comes and uses all of these uh ways of explaining tiffs and financial and technical way but basically what is happening is that in that area of the triangle the value that is assessed by the assessor or the value given to the property is now going to be uh the same for when calculating the money that goes to the schools, the park, whatever. And as the years pass, the assessor will continue growing that assessment the way that it has always happened, but the difference is going to go into a special fund. So now the schools and the parks are going to get the same exact amount of money today that they're going to get for the next 20 years. But the difference that they would have gotten if the property was assessed correctly, you know, for given the property taxes bill as it was, that difference is going to go in a special pot to be reinvested into the triangle. So the taxes are the same. No one is going to get more taxes than they would have gotten.

It's the same. It's just how it gets redistributed. Just those lots. Just those lots. Lots. And just to clarify, that doesn't mean that the taxes are gonna be frozen, but the increase goes to the triangle rather than to everywhere else actually reinvests in reinvested. That's exactly what it is. Reinvestment in there which would draw more business to the businesses that are there currently. The whole the whole point of this is to add bring more bring more people that want to buy the rest of it or all of it or we don't even know yet, right? We're Yeah, we're assuming

they might take everything out of there and sell it all eventually. That is a different issue. Whomever owns the triangle, that's a completely different issue. The issue is that we would like to make sure that there's an investment pot of money uh created for reinvesting into that area to beautify it. Okay. Thank you. And make it better. Perfect. Thank you. So on page 20 it lists the major redevelopment objectives where that money could be used. So

yeah, there was one through six. It was facilitate the physical improvement or rehabilitation of existing structures. Foster the replacement, repair, construction and improvement of public infrastructure. Provide resources for streetscaping, landscaping and signage. Facilitate the assembly, preparation and marketing of available sites. Support the goals and objectives of other overlapping plans. So, we're at the point right now where we do not have a actionable development plan for the parcels. Correct. We just have this tiff that we are discussing right now to fund the five or six development objectives we just listed. Mhm.

So, it could be something that if there was a current business there that needed facade updates. That could be, you know, hypothetically, we could use money if that was approved. It'd have to be approved by the board to do facade updates. It could be sidewalk updates. We could do other improvements for the public or for your specific parcel or building. Or a developer could come and see us for one of the vacant properties and say, "We would like to put up a building, an apartment building, but we need two other lots." That would be between you and the developer at that point. So, we can't guess what's going to happen. All we can do is create and support a method of incenting people to be more interested in this part in these parcels. Up to now that hasn't happened because we didn't have a business district and we did not have a tiff district. So, we are trying to facilitate the development or the improvement of the parcels, but we are not telling you, we don't know if that will be A, B, C, or D at this point.

And if I could just piggyback, so Tony, and I'll defer to Jeff and and Andrew because they're the experts in the room. If the taxes don't go up there, nothing goes into the reinvestment pot, right? So theoretically, property values and taxes going up in the district, ironically, is what we would want. But again, kind of like you know, uh, Amy Joe Wittenberg, Mayor Whittenberg, Village President Wittenberg stated, as it is now, we don't get any more interest outside the community to come in and say, "Hey, you know, if I redevelop this land, then I know for the next 23 years, these property values are going to go go up and the taxes go up, which I pay, but they are reinvested back into the area. That could help existing owners obviously, but it gives you at least a half a shot that outside money has a structure in which to consider investing. Right now, I would say, and you know, we've all been around a lot of us various times, outside money has no incentive to come in to the triangle and in the absence of this type of plan. And again, I'll defer to Jeff and Andrew could probably say it a lot more eloquently than I just tried, but we would want more revenue, more tax revenue to be reinvested. If we do this and everything stays the same, we've wasted everybody's time.

I heard him say that was going to be frozen. That's why I asked about when he first talked about the tax. So, the frozen part is what goes to the schools and parks. That's what he meant. That amount is frozen. They get the same for the next 20 years, but the rest the difference comes to a a special savings account that is used for reinvestment. The taxing bodies get frozen and that's why we had to have the joint review board with all of the taxing bodies invited to come here and vote on this. Yeah, they need

so he went through that process. The reason why we had to do that and by state law is because they have a frozen for 23 years they basically get frozen, right?

So we have the responsibility to let the taxing bodies know that and that's why we have to go through all of those formalized steps with them and they come in here, we review the plans very open and tell them what's going on because this does impact that part of the process. So they're all in the loop. This has all been done in a very uh open transparent manner. And then we will continue to have that transparency with the taxing bodies and have another joint review board meeting a year from now. So next October, we will have another joint review board and give them an update on the project. So that's keeping everybody in the loop about what's going on with the taxing bodies. Does that answer your question, Tony? Yes.

Okay. Any other questions from Go ahead. Don't don't hesitate to come up, guys. This is the time to get everything out on the table.

Um, Lisa Coland from Studio Suites. Has there been a study or an estimate, an estimation on how long uh it would take to accumulate maybe 30,000, 50,000, 100,000. And then what's the what's the procedure on who gets to apply for that first like the most needy you know how do you if I come to you and say you know we need this can I apply for it but then the mall comes and says well if there's only a limited amount of money in the fund we're hoping it still generates but are you allowed to give that out and drain the fund and keep doing that and and how are you going to uh like the most needy gets it first or

does that make sense? Yeah, it does. I think a good question. Um so I think to your first question about potential revenues um

like how long how many years until we get to draw on it. Yeah, that's really a function of when new development or investment happens. It's all based on when the properties are reassessed. How much increase is there in those property values? So, it's faster if somebody comes in tomorrow and says, "I want to build something new." It's slower if it just takes a lot of time to attract that interest. So it's unknown but setting up the framework as the mayor was or president was saying it's a framework to invite new development and it supports overall long-term over 23 years potential to generate a large pot. Um I think ultimately the use of tiff funds is a decision um you know based on different relevant goals and priorities of the village. Um and you know if you took out everything in one year it still occurs increment over the 23 years. So um it's as needed as seen fit. go maybe against

Yeah, I don't know if you want to add any context, Jeff.

Yeah, the Andrew's got it exactly right. So, spending the money is a separate board decision. So, the the there's two scales of projects. So, this big project is someone comes forward with a big project that is a department building. The board loves it, the community loves it, it needs money. That gets evaluated by the board or by the staff, the board, consultants, whatever. Decide if that's the right amount of money. There's a, you know, we do work around that and say this is a fair amount of money. This is a good way to give it to them. You know, the taxes will be way higher because you're going from dirt to building. So that's and and that but there's an application. It's not necessarily like an application like you're applying for a, you know, it's it's not usually there's information that's needed, but it's not like a formal application. For smaller scale projects, sometimes there is a more formal application. I don't I don't think this village has one of those yet cuz they don't have the tiff yet. But sometimes people have like a facade rehab program and that's small dollars and generally and that would be you know whatever it varies but small dollars 50% match if you do your facade. I don't know your situation but a small you know person who owns a business says I want to fix the front um won't necessarily raise your taxes a lot. So that's the tricky part. The small projects don't create a lot of money. The big projects create a lot of money. And so it's it's you got to have some increment to give it back to people basically. Andrew's made that point. So that it's it but it's all you know is it serving the goals of the community and serving goals of the tiff plan the tiff plan basically is here to support the goals of the comp plan. So if the if they think the project is worthy they being the board they can agree to give them the money and there's rules and law and all this other stuff you have to work within but it's uh there's some vetting process some of it's more mathy and some of it's more policy I guess if that helps. I don't know if that helps or got worse but I'm trying. You've done this obviously before.

Not everyone. Yeah, for sure. Um, we've done some tiffs that nothing happened. I mean, that's a that's a fact. Uh, cornfields are the ones I'm thinking of. Small town, nothing's going on. They're kind of like they're putting a it's almost like putting a sign on the piece of dirt saying we're open for business. It's it's like a second sign. You know what I mean? And they've tried and nothing happened. And they spent some money and they they took a swing. Um but lots of towns have had a lot of success and so you know it varies a lot the it depends a lot on the land you know and land owners frankly if I you know about the odds of things going forward if there's uh owners that are prepared to sell at a reasonable price and a village is ready to participate financially and the goals are aligned things happen and if some you know but it takes a lot of people getting along you know and and seeing the same kind of path for for tiffs to really really work um because it's it's complicated you know public sector doesn't really get involved in real estate very much. And so when they do, it's it's not their job, frankly. They don't this board isn't going to do that on 99% of this village because it's just not what they I presume. I shouldn't speak for this board, but that's not that's how most boards are. They don't they're not going to mess with your neighborhood or whatever. They're they're worried about very specific places that are very important. And so when the facts are right and opportunities present themselves, now they have a tool to to maybe move things faster, you know?

Yeah. It helps the village a lot. That's exactly I I think without the tool in your toolbox, it sounds like there's been a lot of hope and aspiration and we you sometimes you got to have some uh gasoline to put on the fire a little bit. I don't mean to be dramatic about it, but whatever. Some accelerant maybe better. That's not better, but anyhow, you get the idea, I hope. Yeah,

I just want to add one comment. Um yeah, one of the next steps in the process that we're going to do after the now now we've already established the business district, but then when we now if the tiff district gets established is we are going to be looking at creating those types of programs and mechanisms and analysis in there. So it's not like we're just going to wing it. Um we will be looking at you know what our goals are. part of the process looking at how to achieve those goals in the best best manner and then what mechanisms are in place on there. So as you know as Jeff said you know what are we looking at for big projects and what are we looking at as maybe for smaller projects that are more preservation of what's currently there um or improvements of what's currently there. So, you know, facade improvements or or sometimes people I've seen, you know, um commercial alteration grants, same type of thing. And those will all be decisions that will be as as Mayor Whittenberg has made comment of out in the open in front of everybody and we put those policies in place. So then the boards and the public will see who's be who's getting the money, why it's getting there, how it's evaluated. And in some cases, you know, there will be there could be an application of, you know, x amount in dollars. So

there are many more steps that will have to be completed before we know the answers to a lot of these questions. The village is going to have to spend a lot more money to try to figure out what is the best use and what are the opportunities for this land. This is the first part of a multi-phased project before we can answer a lot of these questions. So people are thinking this is going to happen like in the next six months. This is not that kind of a project. This is a project that's going to be several years. We are going to have to do another project with a consulting firm to do an economic analysis to do a marketing plan to do a lot of other work to find out who would be interested in this. Make sure the word is out about these parcels and to do this the right way. In the past, we haven't had any of those tools to market this as could it be, you know, a collection of parcels. Well, we don't know that now because no one's ever had those discussions with any of the land owners, right? So, when we go through this process and these other phases, we will begin to have a dialogue and discussion about what could be what could be in your minds. what's your vision for your land now and what is your vision in the future. So those in those next steps that we will be hiring a consultant to do these next steps, we first have to get the tiff approved. We have to do this in an open transparent manner. That's why we're here tonight to do this hearing, follow the law to establish the tiff. We will come back in January. We will approve the tiff. Once that is approved, we will fairly quickly establish another consulting agreement with the consultant to do the next steps, which will be the economic analysis and all of the other

steps to get this rocking and rolling. But this will be a multi-year project. It will just have to be that way. Now, could luck come to to us? Maybe. But I don't want anyone to think that that is a normal thing that would happen. Most of these projects happen over years and take time to, you know, like baking a cake in the oven, right? They sort of have to got to get all the ingredients, get the right ingredients in there, and then we'll have a nice cake. So, we are only just stirring the ingredients in the pot right now, getting them all in there, and then see if we have actually a cake that we can bake soon. So, that's what we're doing right now. So yes, we will be talking to you and having a dialogue with you uh land owners and parcel owners probably uh next year at some point in the beginning of the year. Any other questions? Nick, do you have a question? You guys good hearing? No questions. Um, I believe I need a motion to close the public hearing at what time is it?

7:42. 7:42. Can I have a motion? We close. My god. I move that we close the public hearing. Second. Okay, we have a first from Trustee Sana, a second from Trusty Gazis. Can we please have a roll call vote? Trusty. I. Trusty Selana. I. Trusty Eek. I. Trusty Sutka. I, Trusty Ges. Hi. 5-0. The motion carries.

All right, moving right along. Can we please have um a motion for the consent agenda, please? I move approval of the consent agenda which includes the payables for the period ending November 30th, 2025, the preliminary financial report month ending November 30, 2025, and resolution 2025-33, which is the 2026 board meeting calendar. Second.

All righty. Any questions on the consent amen agenda items? And those can those that want to leave after the public hearing, feel free to leave. It's not a problem.

Uh I think we need the financial report, please. Oh, did I not take a vote? Not a roll call. Oh, can we have a roll call vote, please? Sorry. Just to clarify, do we do that before the financial report or afterwards for the roll call? Be either way. Okay. Just I didn't No. Okay. Usually vote is usually after the financial report. Procedurally, it doesn't matter. Okay. All right. Well, then I'll do a a roll call vote then. Uh, Trusty Inako. Hi. Trusty Salana. Hi. Trusty Yak. Hi. Trusty Zvetka. I trusty gases.

Hi. 5-0. The motion carries. And now the financial summary. Cash on hand at October 31st, 2025 was $2,77,000 $77,967.32. Payments for November of 2025 were $969,356.33. Total revenues for November 2025 were $456,3755 and the ending bank balance at November 30th 2025 was $2,194,986.54.

Thank you for that question. Yes. Yes. I I understand that of the uh money paid, the 969,000 rounded that more than half of that was bond payments. That is correct. And how much do we have left on the um the bonds?

I'm sorry. I had that answer all queued up in my email and did not send it. Are those bond payments monthly, by the way? No, they're every six months. So, in June and December, we make those payments. Okay. Yeah, we looked at it. I had to approve it.

I'm having trouble finding it. That's okay. Do you want to get back to trustee on that? Yes, I will send that answer out to everybody. Thank you. All righty. Uh, moving right on to new business. Can we please have a motion to approve the regular meeting minutes from October or excuse me, November 13th? Move approval of the regular minute. Uh, meeting minutes of November 13, 2025. Second. Second.

Okay. I have a first from trustee Sana and a second from trustee. Any questions, concerns about the minutes from November 13th? Hearing? None. Can we please have a roll call vote? Trusty Inaco. I. Trusty Salana. I. Trusty AK. I trust Zedka I. Trusty Gazes I. 5 Z. Motion carries. Item E. Can we please have a motion for resolution 202534?

Move approval of resolution 2025-34 wishes amending the joint agreement for the Southeast Association for Special Parks and Recreation known as CESPAR. Second.

You can have faster. So, this uh resolution ratifies amendments to our existing intergovernmental agreement with Ceasefar, the Southeast Association for Special Parks and Recreation. The changes that are included are to the year of the equalized assessed value that is used to calculate the contributions from each participating community in cespar and to the due date for our payments. It does not change our financial commitment or the services available to Indian Head Park residents.

You said that it ch I'm sorry, madam president. Um you said that it changes the date. What what is the change?

So currently they would uh base the what they charge each community on the relative equalized assessed value of this year. But um their concern is that each year Cook County tends to be late in issuing the equalized assessed value. So they don't have anything to go on until it's past the due date for payments. So they're proposing to use the previous year's EAV that is already on the record for their estimate of what they're requesting. Got it.

Kevin, one other if they make that assumption and then they realize they didn't go high enough, can they get us in the rears later on or how does that work? No, it's just it's putting it more of a a lagging type situation. So, it's still we're going to still pay the same amount. It's just gonna be based on the previous year instead of the current year. So eventually we'll pay on this year next year. It just moves it forward. Thank you. There are no other questions. Can we please have a roll call vote? Trusty Inaco. I. Trusty Sana.

I. Trusty Yak. I. Trusty Svetka. I. Trusty Gazis. I. 5-0. Motion carries. Great. Uh item F. Can we please have a motion for the 2523 for the reduction of the number of AAA licenses, liquor licenses? Move approval of ordinance 2025-23 reducing the number of class AAA licenses. Second for these next three ordinance, this ordinance and the next two, I'm going to have uh Brandon Fleer, our administrative intern, uh introduce those items and explain them for you.

Good evening. Um the item before you guys um is ordinance 202523. It would reduce the amount of class 3A license, liquor licenses down from two uh down to one. This is due to the restaurant Willow Hills ceasing operations. And this is standard practice to keep our liquor licenses um up to date. And currently the new business that has taken over, Golden Century, is in process of applying for their new liquor license. um in in a later meeting you all would approve for that one hopefully. What class is that? It would they're applying to

they would also be applying for class 3A. So you're going to come back and ask for us to increase the license. Correct. So I have a question be before because you said that this is pertaining all three. The next two items I know that we have to vote on this item but because you said they were related. The next two items, one reduces class A and the other one increases class A. Why are we voting to reduce it than to increase it in the same breath? So um just checking you can actually if you would prefer take those second two the second and third ordinances in one I think

but still why are you reducing and then increasing the same exact license because it the business is changing the lency is changing. Oh, the name and the ordinance is different. I'm sorry. They're not transferable, right? So, you're okay. Got it. Right. So, it it it does seem like a cumbersome put it in one ordinance. Can you I don't know. Okay. Thank you. They're different. They're the same class. That's why I'm asking. No, it's different. Talking about second and third person. It's a different I know. I know. I was just you said they were related and I thought maybe it was the same person because you said they were related. Okay, let's vote on the first one. You're right.

He said they were related. So I thought something was wrong here. If seeing that there are no other questions, can we please have a roll call vote? If there are no other questions, trustyo, hi. Trusty Sana. Hi. Trusty E. I I and I for all three trusty but we only made the motion for one. We have to take them separate. Take those two items. I trusty gazes I 50. The motion passes. Great. That was just item item F which has passed. We will move on to item G. Can I have a motion please?

I move for consideration and approval of ordinance 20-24 reducing the number of class A licenses. I second. It's increasing. So, so Brandon, could you please explain what's going on? Am I good now? Yeah, you're good. So, this item in front of you guys uh would reduce the class A um licenses down from one down to zero. This is because Sarrento Bar and Grill has ceased operations. In the next ordinance, it will be a different business and we will re increase it up to one. All

righty. Are there any questions on this item before we move to a roll call vote? Hearing none, can we have a roll call vote, please? Trusty Ayanako. I. Trusty Zaldana. I. Trusty Yak. I. Trusty Svetka. I. Trusty Gazis. I. 50. Motion carries. Great. Can I have a motion for item H, please? I move for consideration and approval of ordinance 20-25 increasing the number of class A licenses. I second. Brandon.

Uh once again, this item is for Stars and Stripes, a new business organization, and they would be applying for a class A liquor license. Upon the board's approval, uh the liquor commissioner will issue their license once they um are approved. You you have to clarify. Where's Stars and Stripes and when can we go visit them? Well, actually, their owners are here. Oh. Uh in case you in case you wish to ask them any questions but yes, they'd be occupying the same space as the Sarrento uh bar and Grill. And then when Well, we're going to just ask them to come forward and introduce themselves. There you go. Like to do that real quick.

I know they're getting a liquor license and everything. I mean, I need to know that first. Uh well, you you can we can you don't have to necessarily finish the vote. If you want to hear from the Yeah, we want to hear from them. Yeah. It helps you decide if you want to give it's perfectly fine for them to come address the board. They clearly have a kid who plays hockey.

Uh my name my name is Dan Miller. Uh this is my wife Estella. Uh we purchased Sarrento and the old Elbow location. Uh we're planning on opening if we get approval uh January 1st to make it just an easy transition. Uh the Sarrento will stay as a bar. We'll serve food from the old Alba, which now we applied for will be called Roselli's Pizza Parlor. Uh my family has been in the pizzeria business for over 60 years in the city. Um they they went out of business years ago, but um before my grandfather passed, I got him to write down all the recipes. So we plan on bringing back the recipes from there. Um my wife Estella has been running a bar restaurant in Forest Park for over 20 years, and she's going to bring that experience to both locations.

Canary first. Well, welcome. Welcome to the village. Thank you so much for being here to address us and we appreciate it very much. Thank you so much and best of luck. Thank you. All righty. Can we please um if there are no more questions on age, can we have a roll call vote, please? Why not? Trusty Aako I. Trusty Sama I. Trusty Ek I. Trustes Zetka. Hi. Trusty Gazis. Hi. 5-0. The motion carries.

Great. Thank you. If we can please move on to public comments. Do we have any other public comments for the evening? Anybody else? We've received none on email. So, we will move to reports. Trustee Gazis. No report. Trusty Satzka. Um, I do not have a report at this moment, but Andreas, would you like to give any recaps from the recent planning and zoning meeting? I think he's doing that in his report. I can do that in the village clerk's report. Okay, then I will defer to that. Thank you. Trusty act, do you have a report tonight?

Yes, we had a finance committee on um Monday 128 and we discussed the administrative uh bill plus we took another look at the draft procedures that were introduced at the previous meeting. Our next finance committee is Monday, January 4th at 4 o'clock and we uh expect to have a draft to the board is in it I think in the February meeting for the initial draft for the uh overall budget but the public is welcome to our January 4th meeting uh to participate January 5th. January 5th. Thank you. Stand corrected. That's it. Trustee Sana, no report. Trusty Ayanako,

no report. Moving right along to the village clerk.

As Trusty Sedka mentioned, we had a planning and zoning commission meeting on December 2nd. Um, this was focusing around making a recommendation on the policy issues for fences. The two policy issues that there two policy questions that we're looking at were do we allow fences in residential properties generally and or do we allow do uh will there is there support for allowing fences on areas that abut major roads. Um we also had the final uh survey survey numbers on there as well. So they got to look at the total amount which was 696 surveys that were returned. So after analysis and much discussion on it, the planning and zoning commission uh made the recommendation to to change the regulations, a preliminary recommendation, I should be clear, to change the regulations on properties that abut major roads with the understanding that the next in January and going forward meetings that they will get the specifics on that. On the other question for fences in general they their recommendation is a negative recommendation essentially meaning that they are they are not supporting any change to the current regulations. So all the current regulations for fences would stay the same but for their preliminary recommendation about fences that abut

point of order. Madame president I would like to make a correction. I watched the meeting and they made a motion to not recommend and I want to clarify that the motion was stated as such and then seconded and they never clarified at the end that they were correcting their motion. So they made a not a recommendation which I know it's semantics but it means that they were not making a recommendation. It's not what they wanted to do, it's what they did. So, let's let's make it very clear.

Well, I you are absolutely correct on that one, Trusty Sana. Um, I will say, however, since it's not a final recommendation, they haven't made a recommendation to the board yet, and those unique uh factors on it will be cleaned up by the time it gets to the board. Is that allowed? Yes, we were just we were they were not recommen making making a recommendation to the board. Nothing has been sent here. It was a motion and they voted on it and that was the motion during a public meeting. They do not get to correct it back in the back uh before you know public and and not on record. So one thing is what they voted on and another thing is what the recommendation

let me clarify this will not be a it will not be a backdoor recommendation. And this will be part of the final recommendation they make as before they come to the board. So in the meeting which the current timeline looks like it will be the February meeting before they get to before the week before the board meeting they will be voting on a final recommendation. That means all packages. That means the whole package what they're sending to the board in regards to residentials, what they're sending in to the board regarding the uh those that abut the major roads and all the details that have currently not been ironed out. Now that the reason we are doing that is is for that specific purpose that you mentioned. This is a very complex topic. There's a lot that goes into it and so at the end when we have the consensus staff has wants them to see exactly what they are voting on and that will be their final recommendation to be sent to the board including all the pieces of it. So there will be no confusion as what being sent. It'll come with a report as well and they will have to like I said come to consensus

public meeting. It will be a public meeting. It will most likely be the February planning and zoning meeting because they will not be able to send a recommendation to the board without sen without that. Can we discharge the item? I'm not sure what you mean by that. But you cannot take any action because this is an out on the agenda tonight. No, no, no. But can we discharge that item in a future meeting of ours and take it back? Well, it was referred to them, I think, that to make a recommendation. Um so I think you have to let that process be completed before and then act on whatever comes out of okay comes out of the PCC

when there is a final report issued and brought to the the board there will be clarity on what they voted on there will be a whole all of the background we have all the details it'll be very clear so can I can I please make a comment and make it very clear and if it's possible ble to uh put it on the record that I'm very displeased at the way they behaved and they handled themselves during the meeting and that we are asking that they be clear and concise and when they make their uh recommendations and their motions and conduct themselves more professional, please. I will let them know on that. Thank you.

And I have a question since we're on the topic uh for council. In the absence of a planning and zoning commission recommendation or in the presence of a recommendation to this board, what is our supermajority requirement as a village board of six?

Yeah, there there's not going to be a supermajority requirement on on a text amendment like that that they're proposing. So, they're going to make a recommendation to you and it's going to be a majority vote as to whether or not you're going to accept the the text amendment. It's not as if it's a variation that went before them and got a negative recommendation that might trigger a supermajority. This is a this is a different animal because it's a text amendment. So, just to be clear, a supermajority at the board level of their recommendation whether we accept it or not is all that's required. That's not required. No, it's a majority. Did I say super? You did.

Standard majority, four out of six would be required. And a super majority would require five out of six without on a different issue without village president's vote. Correct. We would need five out of the six. It depends on how the supermajority. Sometimes supermajority is drafted in in in that it requires the concurrence of a majority of all trustees. Sometimes it says of the corporate authorities which would include the mayor, but at this point it's we don't have to worry about we don't have to worry about because it's Thank you. it's not going to be a it's not going because it's a text amendment. It's not going to require a supermajority no matter what comes out of the PCC

because that was one of the items that was stated in the meeting. So I just want to make sure that's clarified with planning and zoning that there isn't a supermajority requirement because that came up in the meeting. Thank you. Yeah, I'll clarify with that as well. I might have misspoke during that meeting. Just want to be transparent. Yeah, absolutely. And and again they're a recommending body. You are the voting body, the legislative body. All righty. Um, I think we are on to clerk, did you finish your report? I just want to make sure I didn't we didn't cut you off and you had more to say

on the subject of fences. I was just going to say to kind of reiterate what what I was speaking about on there that the current timeline is that in the January meeting we'll be finalizing all the details for those that are but fences those that have but the major roads so fence style location etc. That's what we're going to be looking at finalizing and in February it will be the final report with the final recommendation that will then be moved to the board. But that should be done, you know, the public should have a a very clear view of that um very early on. And the last little bit that I was going to speak about is that uh liquor and gaming licenses, their renewual invoices have been sent out and those who have paid have we are working on issuing them. If you have paid me already though, if you paid the village already, excuse me, um then we will be getting those certificates to those businesses by the end of the week. So I'll get them to them tomorrow. That's all I have. Thank you.

Village attorney, no report. Village treasurer already gave his report. Do you have anything else to share? The treasure. Yeah. Okay. Village administrator. Yes, I do. Um, just real quick, I want you to know I filed the 2025 tax property tax levy um before the deadline. So, we are

good to stay in business. Um, if the county gives us our property tax funds, then we'll be okay. Um, we've also filed the business district uh uh sales tax, the 1% tax. We have also filed the grocery tax uh replacement ordinance. Uh both of those are with the Illinois Department of Revenue and we will be working on a project to I met with Civic Plus today to start the process of talking or yesterday to start the process of redesigning our website uh to make it more uh user friendly, more useful to the residents and um just updated in in every way. So that's my report. I did have a comment you'd mentioned to me u

your microphone please microphone that in the um IML there is an article in regards to uh statutory duties for municipal uh uh officials and I think you said you were going to do something on that.

Yes, we're working on an in an an enhanced version of the board calendar. So, in your packet tonight was uh the resolution passing the uh board calendar for 2026, but we'll be issuing a calendar that has um dates, significant dates for the board, such as when when our um levy is due, when our audit is due, when our budget is due, so that we have a a better sense of the rhythm of the board. And that will be a public uh information. and it'll be posted on our website as well.

There's also items in that article that relate to when the village needs to respond, not just the board, but also the village needs to uh publish certain information. Uh would that be also included? We'll have that in as an internal document. Yeah. Uh internal to available for staff and the board

and board. Thank you. And we have also um as I've mentioned before, we've received uh proposals from three companies for waste hauling. Uh we are still reviewing that. U we have a subcommittee that is made up of trustee Gazis, trustee EC um and myself. and we're reviewing the proposals looking for um what offers the the most value uh for the village um and the community as a whole and the residents and we'll be sorry uh we'll be bringing we're planning to bring something to the January meeting for the board to consider and vote on.

Joe, would you like to give the public works report?

Sure. Uh just a couple of items. Uh the pump house uh chlorine switch over from uh gas to liquid. Uh we're waiting on the IEPA permit. Uh we had to resubmit because I initially signed off on it, but uh uh President Winberg had to sign off on it. So they had to resubmit. Uh there wasn't a problem with it. It's just that she had to sign off on it. So we're waiting on that. Uh once we get that, we can start moving forward on that project. uh also met with Strand on our louvers at the public works building. He got some pictures and the they're going to do the design stage on that and once we get that in place I can start uh soliciting some uh vendors to do the work over there. Both these projects are on this year's uh fiscal year budget. Um we applied for the Tree City USA application. It's uh it's currently in the state level waiting for approval. I don't foresee any issues on getting that. Um, uh, want to commend my team on, uh, the decorations throughout town. We were able to do a little bit more this year than we've done in the past. And, uh, we've gotten some positive feedback on how that turned out. And then, uh, obviously it's snow season, so um, what we're trying to do is put together a snow and ice control policy. and I've been working with Brandon here to come up with a uh policy to put in place, but in the meantime, I have a few items that I'd like to address. Um, we've gotten good feedback also from our snow plowing, but obviously there are some areas that uh we we get calls and questions on all the time. Uh, just a few things that we that we do just so that people know, we during a storm, basically what we're trying to do is keep the roads open uh and passable. So, that's our main goal during uh a snow event is to just keep keep the main roads open uh and try and hit everything at least with one pass. Uh our priorities are main streets, hills,

intersections, so forth. Um once the snow event is done, we try and go curb to curb, get everything off uh the roads. Um culde-sacs and uh deadend roads are unfortunately uh not a high priority, so they kind of get done last. We do, like I said, try and make a pass through there, but um you know, we'll do the final cleanup once the storm is complete. Um couple of the items that we put in the uh packet was uh for the homeowners, please try not to push your snow out into the street uh because once we come through and you're throwing it back in there again, it's just causing issues. And we've been getting some uh complaints about snow being there after we've gone by. And it's it's it's not because of us. it's because some people are doing their personal driveways or whatever and just bringing it back out on the streets. So, we ask that you try and keep it on your property or if you're plowing out your driveway, uh do it downstream so we're not pushing it uh back in on your property. Um, and as far as like uh plowing near mailboxes, we try and get as close as we can obviously without damaging mailboxes, but unfortunately uh the snow has to go off the road. So sometimes it gets a little uh you know pushed toward the mailboxes. Uh public works department is a smaller staff. We don't have time to come out and dig out mailboxes. So there is some homeowner responsibility to cleaning up uh some of the areas that we do. Um, we have a priority map and want I'd like to get this out even before we um get the snow and ice policy in place. Uh, I'd like to get this map on the website so people can see what our priority streets are. Uh, it'll be a color-coded map uh coded map to show what streets are getting done first, second, third, and so forth. And um, that'll give people a better idea of how our operations work. And that's my report. Thank you, Chief Walsh.

Thank you. Uh, last meeting I said that we were going to do uh, Black Friday for the retail theft grant. I postponed that because I discovered uh, that the southwest suburbs were experiencing uh, some type of crime out there that uh, there's a pattern or hitting some of the suburbs out there. I did an inquiry of the nearby areas. We have not had that occurring here. Uh but those types of of crime seem to always move and switch and go to different areas. So I'd rather use the money if we are having those incidents for for the type of crime. I'll explain what it is later. I'm not going to say it over the meeting. But uh that's why we haven't done anything. I said we're going to do it, but I postponed it because I want to focus on this if it does come our way. Speed cameras. a lot of requests for uh speed cameras on our streets. I talked to Officer Majuski. This weather has frozen them shut and he's having difficulty replacing the batteries. So, I'm going to have him take them in and take them down because I don't want them to get damaged in any way. Pardon me. They're down already. Okay. Thank you. I didn't know that. Thank you. But, so we we got them in. We're going to charge the batteries. We'll get them back up. We'll get them ready to go. Uh, and lastly, I just want to make a a shout out to police officer, part-time police officer Lee Zetland. He he retired earlier this year from Indian Head Park with 22 years of service. He retired as a lieutenant from Brookfield Zoo today with 43 years of service. He is an absolute police ambassador. He is uh just great for for policing and it's it's a shame that he you had to retire but 43 years I think is enough. So I just wanted to congratulate Lee on his retirement today. And uh if I don't see people at the Christmas party, merry Christmas.

And I think we did forget one item. Um we are trying a pilot program right now. So we are overnight street parking enforcement will be suspended from December 26 until January 1st for the holidays. January 22nd. December 22nd. Right. So we are suspending the enforcement of overnight parking from December 22nd until January 1st for the holidays. But public works and our staff really want to tell make sure residents know that snow parking regulations remain in effect. So if you see the snow, please remove your cars from on street so our plows can can do their jobs. Street parking is prohibited for 12 hours when snowfall is 2 plus inches to allow for salting and to facilitate plowing of village streets. So, we want to try this to see many of our neighboring suburbs have overnight parking suspended during the holidays. So, we're going to try this and if it goes really well, then we're going to

Facebook and everything. Yeah, we're going to publicize it. We already have actually. It's been on Facebook. So, we're going to try it and then we can codify it if needed later. If it works well, if we find that um it doesn't work well, then we'll have those discussions. Mother's Day.

Mother's Day. Okay. So, I just wanted everybody to know that uh we are trying that out. And if you didn't hear that, please tell your your neighbors and your friends that you can park on the street during December 22nd to January 1st. I did get a question uh earlier today for clarification on this policy and I want to state for everyone that the 12-hour window begins at the point in time that snow accumulation reaches or exceeds 2 in even if that's in the middle of the night. Um and that there may be tickets issued if you do not remove your uh car from the street when the snow when the snow accumulation reaches two or more inches. And again, this is done to ensure safety and effective cleaning of the snow and ice from all public roadways.

All righty. If there is anything else, did I miss anybody? I've been good at that lately. You good? Everybody good? If we are all done, can I have a motion for adjournment, please? Motion to adjurnn. Second. All in favor? Quick draw. I All righty. That motion carries. Good night. Have a great holiday. during the uh what was it?