Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

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we've got a motion it's been second okay faor item 6 is zoning text Amendment ztx 25-3 this is a text am streets um in the elevated beaches and there was supposed to be more discussion about it but instead of more discussion the item just kind of disappeared from the agenda and died um so this is bringing back that um text Amendment so that it would add section 231 129. 3.2 minimum driveway length for residential uses to minimize Vehicles overhanging sidewalks or pedestrian pass the following shall apply for residential units with driveways one the minimum driveway link shall be at least 4 ft measured from the face of the garage door a structural wall of the building or any other obstruction to the back of the sidewalk if no sidewalk is present the measurement shall extend to the property line or in the absence of a property line to the back of curb or edge of we we talked about this morning or adding or edge of um pavement I think is how we wanted to word that number two for u-shaped driveways with two points of access to a street the minimum driveway length should be at least 38 ft the driveway must be arranged to enure that no portion of a parked vehicle

obstructs any part of a sidewalk or pedestrian path three for elevated homes of parking beneath the structure the area under the structure May count toward the required 24t minimum driveway length but only up to the first obstructing element and four the minimum driveway length requirement does not apply to side loaded garages on interior non- Corner Lots this would go to uh city council for their next meeting April 7th if it's approved for rec it's recommended for approval and I appreciate the email back on that and I'm seeing what the driveway and the sidewalk would and I understand would not want to add the wording to the end for example a loaded side or a side loaded garage because then cars could there is no minimum they could the back end sticking out into the sidewalk and we could add it to number four I could see a case for that but not not the other to prohibit Ada regulations yeah and would that for an elevated home would that I've see the 20 minimum 24 feet but assuming it's a weekly rental and they I know they've only only are allowed a certain amount of vehicles but if it's sticking out into the sidewalk or we're preventing this this wouldn't be really used as an enforcement mechanism it's a planning mechanism we have that code in our zoning ordinance already gotcha okay so that we we can or not we but City staff can go out or

police it's obstructing sidewalks I don't think that the city issues tickets based on that at this point but it certainly could it's in there already if they're obstructing the sidewalk okay I'm not aware of a residential district what about maybe a PVD not that I'm aware of right there's a lot of there's a lot of non-conforming things here and they would I mean if they have an existing driveway they would be allowed like if they had to make repairs they would be allowed to do that right if they had to redevelop the entire site that's when this would come into play yeah because that would be if it's shorter than grandfather and even here's another scenario let's say we have and a tree falls on the sidewalk and it busts the entire sidewalk and they have to rep it out repave it they're not going to have to ADH to the new 24 because then at that point they would have toow land tear off the face of the house right yeah I mean bisera I think bisera is what created the need for this ordinance when that development was

fully built out there was a lot of concerns because people parked in their driveways there's no way to get through the sidewalk um there's some other neighborhoods where it's an issue for people Robert's Roost I think I think a few people have mentioned um this isn't going to make it so those people can't fix their driveways it's just going to make it so when you're planning a new neighborhood hey you've got to make sure you've got enough room there between the sidewalk and the home no add just thate from item to the driveway must be arranged to ensure that no portion of a parked vehicle obstructs any part of the sidewalk or pedestrian path to number four as well because we don't have a minimum but I could still see if it was a very short way they would maybe be blocking the sidewalk if they didn't have enough room there all different right meas in we would be using a standard parking space Dimension 9 by9 we start having cyber trucks double Cy cyber trucks then it's just G to extend further it's GNA be all driveway we'll have to update our parking ordinance for parking set because the last time this was updated was when 80 yeah yeah so you know we're just keeping up with the times and type of cars are D now some cars are getting bigger some cars are getting smaller true when we're all driving tractor trailers to work then we'll extend it then we'll have flying vehicles and it will be not concern anymore you got to be able your hover car has got to be able to land

yes that's the FAA it'll be a big zoning change yes well we're getting into the FAA Zone here yikes sorry off topic my bad can't Buzz somebody's house coming in can't exceed 180 elev yo we've already advertised so I'll put that on the next ad got it sorry okay settle down settle down okay any we have a motion I move this Planning Commission move forward with um recommend approval of the only ordinance SE Amendment z- 25-3 and add the last sentence of number two saying thank you the driveway must be arranged to ensure that no portion of the park vehicle obstructs any part of a sidewalk or pedestrian path that be added to number four anybody for a second I'm done all right any final comments okay all those in favor

I and then the next item a major preliminary PL of subdivision creating 58 residential lots common area and rights Avo phase three at the Bel track you guys could just postpone it till the applicant brings back to PL I move the Planning Commission postpone the major preliminary plat of subdivision Su 2463 prepared for phase three of the Bel track as submitted all those in favor that motion take under a motion toj all those in favor I we are adjourn thank you