Zoning Commission - Regular Meeting

Okay. Uh, good evening. Uh, let me call to order our Concord Township Zoning Commission meeting here of Tuesday, May the 5th, 2026. Uh, may I ask honor our country with the pledge of allegiance. Pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. Uh, roll call. Heather, please. Okay. Mr. Robert, here. Mr. Schindler here. Miss Wley here. Mr. Horton here.

Mr. Eiffel, here. Thank you. uh order of business to begin here this evening is the approval of minutes from long ago. So we have uh three sets. One is the minutes from July the 1st, 2025. Do I have any comments from the board on the minutes andor any motion to approve? Hearing none. Can I get a motion to approve July 1st, 2025 minutes?

Mr. Chairman, I make a motion and we approve the minutes as written for July 1 of 2025. Have a motion. We have a second. I second. We have a motion and a second to approve the minutes of July the 1st, 2025. Uh, all in favor signify by saying I.

I. All opposed? None. July 1st, 2025. Meeting minutes stand approved. Uh second is the minutes of October the 7th, 2025. Uh any comments from the board on reviewing the minutes of October the 7th? I do. Okay. So [laughter] in the uh the gentleman who spoke to us and and actually relative to the minutes uh uh if those were here will recall the gentleman here we had he had provided us with some recommendations regarding noise and ordinance in terms of noise. Uh Heather I said we'd take it under consideration and it fell off my radar. I'm checking in with you. You have radar. I don't you where did we leave that at? I'm sorry. Uh if do you recall?

Oh, um I transmitted that to the administrator and the trustees at a subsequent staff meeting for them to also look at because some of the recommendations in there had to do with the general noise resolution and not necessarily the zoning resolution. Um I as I understand it, the same gentleman has been talking with Mr. Wartell asking what was you know if there's been any mo movement on that. Um, okay. But I'm not aware of any at this time. Okay. So, in terms of the zoning resolution, we may or we it would be our discretion to take up a review of it at some point. Yeah. And in whether or not any of those recommendations that he had were be appropriate to [clears throat] be in the zoning resolution, I think is a question, too. Okay.

Because many of them were were more of general overall township noise resolution. Okay. Um, it kind of brings to bear things I have heard from neighbors regarding noise and particularly from dogs and all hours of the night. So, I didn't know if this was something the board may wish to consider down the road just to review our resolution as it relates to that. Doesn't the state have a regulation that from dusk to dawn after a certain time, like I say, dust to dawn, uh, you could call and complain to your local authorities about noise and they have to come out and address it.

I thought there was something on the books. Yeah. Again, that's for Concord or just in general for Ohio. Not that I know of for Ohio. I know that Concord does have a noise resolution and there's certain hours, but I don't believe there's a statemandated dusk to dawn. Yep. Anyhow, u something u at least I think we may want to consider future is the only reason I brought it up just for future discussion and thought. Mhm. Okay, that's all I had comments on the minutes. Okay. Thank Thank you. Any anybody else come? If not, can I get a motion to approve the minutes of October the 7th, 2025? Mr. Chairman, I so move we approve the minutes of October 7th as written.

Have a motion to approve. I have a second. Okay, I'll second approval of minutes of October the 7th. Uh, all in favor signify by saying I. I. I. I. abstain. Minutes stand approved. Thank you. Uh last and on the approval of minutes is our special meeting of March 23rd, 2026. Any comments andor a motion from the board on uh the minutes of March 23rd, 2026 hearing? None. I have a motion to approve.

Mr. Mr. Chairman, I make a motion that we approve the special meeting minutes for March 23rd, 2026. We have a motion to approve. Do I have a second? Second. Have a second. First motion and and a second to approve the special meeting minutes of March 23rd. All in favor signify by saying I. I. I. None opposed. The minutes of March 23rd, 2026 stand approved. Um, next order of business on our agenda is correspondence. Um, any members, Frank? Any correspondence to bring forth to the board? Hyram, none, Mr. Chairman. I have none either. Amanda, none, Mr. Chair.

None. And Mark, we have no correspondence brought forth. That brings us to the zoning inspector report. Heather, please. Okay. Good evening. Good evening.

Um, just do a quick review of April's zoning permit activity. Um during the month of April, staff processed 39 zoning permit applications and collected approximately $5,400 in application fees. The vast majority of the projects were for residential and included 10 new accessory buildings, nine fences, seven single family dwellings, six decks, three new businesses, um two additions under residential dwellings, a wall sign and inground and an ingground swimming pool with fence. So, the new and expanded businesses um included um Southern Steer Butcher, which is going to be located at the Crow Crossing uh retail center in the old Mary's Diner location. And then directly next door to that, the Cleveland Yoga is also going to be expanding into some of that space and is adding Lake Cycle to their um business there as well. And then finally, Field 44 uh expanded an additional 1500 square feet um at their existing location. They're on Auburn Road. You may have read an article about that in the news herald as well.

So then um just a couple upcoming things. Um tomorrow night the township trustees have their uh public hearing on the proposed zoning text amendments where they'll consider this board's recommendations on the six amendments that we had been working on for several months. Um and then later this month we are having on May 28th the at 4 pm the joint special meeting with the trustees uh the zoning commission and the board of zoning appeals where we're planning on meeting um with staff and our consultants MS consultants to go over our um comprehensive plan that we've been working on to share some ideas with you guys and get feedback. And then stay tuned. We're trying to plan another community openhouse sometime in June um similar to what we did at the beginning of the the project to kind of kick it off um to then present um to the to our residents um what we've what we've been working on how we've taken their feedback into consideration some of the goals and objectives moving forward. So that's it.

Might that be held at the fire house? Yes, I think that is the plan. Yeah, that was it was well attended. It was good. Yes. Yeah, we're hoping to do something similar. So yeah, very good. Thank you. Are there any questions for the zoning inspector? Mr. Chair,

there being none, uh, next order of business is public participation. Before we get to new business, any members of the public wish to speak uh on any subject for us uh to the board this evening? There being none, we will move on now to new business. Uh, [clears throat] first up is our site plan and design review application number 64. Mr. Perry Blossom ZSI Manufacturing is requesting site plan and design review approval for a warehouse addition located at 8059 Kryle Road also known as parcel number 08- A-20- 0-00-24- representative here any representatives here please uh introduce yourself name and address and uh let us know talk to us

yeah uh good a good evening uh my name is Sean Thompson with TMA Architects address 14740 Aspen Hills Lane in Burton, Ohio.

We're awaiting your presentation on the project. Okay. Um, so then we'll follow up with Q&A. No. Very good. Um, yeah. So, um, submit, we're looking at a, uh, warehouse edition about 16,000 square ft that is on the south side of the existing building. Um, if you've driven by there, there's a kind of onestory office block that kind of sticks out in front. Um, so our addition is set up uh so that we actually align with the face of the taller building in the back trying to [snorts]

um I say be respectful of the original geometry and not compete with the office block. I know some of the questions that had come back. Um we did add some windows on the front um to try and present a little bit better um facade to the street. Um the owner chose to go to a cheaper mechanical system. So, we no longer have the mechanical units. Originally, we're positioned outside. We're we're just doing uh two heaters. It's a it's just a warehouse space. Um and then we are going to go back and if you've seen the building, we're going to paint the the existing building back to match in the colors that we're doing the new building. Okay.

So, really trying to keep everything um right now there's a little bit of a hodgepodge of colors. So, um, we have a block wings coat that will be that will be painted. That'll be the dark gray. We'll have the metal siding of the building on top of that. And then the top is with very little, but there will be black trim. So, black gutters, black down spouts. So, that's kind of what that will look like. We're going to take this scheme and go back on the existing building with that same scheme with the exception of there's an existing green um standing seam metal roof that's on the office portion and we are going to keep that. Their corporate color is green so a little bit of green to to honor that. And

so that's that's what we're proposing for the colors again trying to really keep it neutral. They are not trying to to call attention. It's not a retail area. It's just a warehouse. They're trying to not call any uh unnecessary attention to themselves. So, um I think um we appreciate the comments from staff and thank you for the opportunity to respond to those. I think we addressed most of those maybe with the exception of there's still some items on the landscape plan that um that staff would like to see addressed and I don't have any problem with with us adjusting the landscape plan in such a fashion. Okay. Very good

questions. Um, first of all, congratulations. We'd love to see new business expansion in County Township, especially where it belongs in that area. It's good. It's good. Uh, may I ask Heather to comment on her report, staff report before we go to I go to the board? Oh. Um, okay. Um, as as you were aware, this was originally going to be in front of us last month. So, I did provide you an updated staff report

um with um comments based on the original um but I guess I really um I appreciate the fact that they were able to make um pretty much all of the revisions that we were requesting. Um the I know that they've been working directly with um Lake County Storm Water to finish up whatever criteria they need to do regarding that. So, that is underway. Um, and I don't really have much else to add other than it's, you know, it's it's a nice quiet business. Um, okay. Happy that Perry Blossom is doing well here and businesses as well. So, it's good. Yeah. So, rel so staff is recommending conditional approval.

Yes. Yeah. I [clears throat] do have this one um condition that I was recommending like so with the deferred parking area, they're planning on deferring some parking and only constructing it if as needed. So within that on the south side of that deferred parking area, you'll see they carved out an like an interior parking lot island for grass. And per our zoning resolution, you're supposed to plant a tree in there. So my recommendation would be is to to show a tree on there. Therefore, if those if those spots ever need to be constructed, that landscaping would also be constructed with. Okay.

Very good. Um since I still have your attention, Heather, so uh I this has come up before and I I circled it here in in the notes and the zoning staff comments in conjunction with the zoning commission zoning inspector makes a finding that any or all portion of the parking is necessary that's deferred. How do we determine when [laughter] additional parking is necessary? Um, and and the reason I'm concerned is it incumbent upon the board andor you, right? Because we're stating that in the in the Yeah.

And so we've never executed that portion of the zoning resolution. That's only been in our resolution for a handful of years now. But how I would envision that, I mean, it would probably start off with a series of like, you know, zoning violations of maybe they have a huge increase in staff and they're parking on the grass all the time, you know, or parking, you know, where it was some kind of continuous issue or or something of that nature. But um it would likely be a lot of back and forth with myself and the owner of the property before it would ever get to a point where we be coming back to this board to say, "Hey, but

I mean I I can't even think of that's the only thing I can really think of is all of a sudden they have all these extra employees or people coming." But for this type of business, I I can't envision that. I mean, they've indicated through the the warehouse expansion they're going to only add a few additional employees and and based on the parking there, I mean, the numbers work. So, maybe in the future if Mr. Blossom were to sell it to somebody else who then has a a larger staff and the parking that's not there is not adequate for their needs. You know, maybe then we have a mechanism to to go to that person and go and and ask them to put the parking in. [clears throat] Um, not exactly sure because we or they put an indoor driving range in the warehouse. all these people start showing up. So,

well, I mean, a change of use in would trigger some other things, right? Yeah. So, I'm I'm just uh I bring it up only because when we put it in writing that if the zoning inspector and the zoning commissioner will determine this. Yeah. I think in the future maybe we add some language to what you just said observe any change of you not change of use but any type of increase in usage I guess in terms of space as opposed to saying if we we make a finding at any time in conjunction with the zoning commission maybe that covers us

you're talking about maybe amending the zoning resolution to be more clear because that language would it's right out of the resolution yeah it was like from the resolution so maybe That's a a side. That's a side. Okay. Okay. Very good. Okay. Okay. So, okay. You answered my question. Thank you, Heather. Um, board [clears throat] comments or questions for the applicant? Not for me, Mr. Chairman. Hyram, please. On page T2. I see two hydrant number one. T2.

I see two. Sorry, say that that question again. I see two hydrant number ones. Well, that's that's a 400 foot line from three. Oh, that right. Sorry. That extra the one that's in the middle is pointing to nothing. That is not a That is not There is not a hydrant there. [laughter] Note, we have three hydrants. They are one on the northeast corner. Yeah. Okay. One just south of the driveway and then there is one on that's right on the property line of the adjoining property to the north. Okay. Okay.

But thank you for finding my errand note. Anything else, Hunter? Or page through while you're paging through? No, I've been paging for a long time. Amanda, any comments or questions for the applicant, please? No, Mr. Chairman. Mark. Thank you. Okay. Um, back to you, Hum. If there's something, anything else before we I'm just wondering about

traffic. Is there a for the addition all the highlighted on on page three just stops at a certain point? Does it carry all the way around? Can I approach? I'm not just looking at Does this Oh, yeah. So, so what is shaded is just the new stuff. That is just the new thing. And where where's the traffic coming from? Is it just one entrance? That's a great question. Yes. So, so all of the car traffic will all come in through their existing driveway, which is that this one? Yes. Okay.

Currently, their truck traffic will come in also that way. It will it will swing all the way around the building, which is why we have that kind of um larger curve brought around. They will then be able to pull straight forward and back into the loading dock which is on the northeast corner and then going out they have an agreement with the neighboring property. They actually go out through that back driveway and come out through the adjoining property. Okay. Cars won't do that. Cars will just go back out the main drive. Thank you. Yeah, it's a good question. No other questions.

No other questions. Thank you. Thank you, board. So, uh, we have a recommendation from the staff for a conditional approval. Um, uh, correct me if I'm wrong. Uh, Bry, we would read the conditions into the motion if I recall. You think I would procedurally? So, uh, then then I go back to Heather. If we were to proceed with a motion for conditional, it appears to me there are only two. You have 11 written, but there's only two that are outstanding. And correct me if I'm wrong on reading. The rest are uh your comments indicated, provided was added.

Um yeah, I mean numbers one and and uh number 1A and 11, right? uh would be the two conditions that we one a yes and if you if you want to make 11 address you know working with storm water management the second condition I mean that that's fine as well they have to do that regardless um but that want to make sure that the applicant would agree to you know continue to work with the uh the county storm water to get the comments approved and get approval but yes say those one or two

okay okay thank you thank Um, okay. For the board's consideration, if there no other comments or questions, um, for the board's consideration, um, uh, would the do I hear a motion for approval, uh, conditional approval of the, uh, of the site plan, uh, design review application number 64? I make a motion for conditional approval. I have a motion to make a conditional approval. Would we make that motion based on revision 42826? Um because there are two other revisions to this.

Frank, I you're correct. I was going to read all of that, but I was going to read all of that, but Mark is making the motion. I probably need the motion to reflect what I just asked legal counsel. Okay. The motion needs to reflect the conditions of your approval or your motion. So your motion should be to make conditional approval with these two conditions for the whole nine yards. The site plan blah blah and the date whole. Did you get or you want me to or I or I can state that and then you could say and make the motion. So all right. Sorry.

All right. All right. Do I have a Do I have a motion for conditional approval from the board uh for site plan number site plan and design review application number 64, Mr. Perry Blossom, ZSI Manufacturing uh for parcel number 08- AA-20-00-024-0 located at 8059 Cryle Road as submitted and revised uh April the 28th, 2026. uh with the following two conditions. Uh in the new parking lot within the landscaped island, uh one additional tree shall be added between the proposed deferred parking spaces. And two, uh the the uh civil engineer work working directly will work directly with the Lake County Stormwater Department to address their comments and and obtain approval from the Lake County Stormwater Management Department. Do I have a motion to approve? Would it that make that a conditional approval?

Mark, may I? Yes. I I make a motion to approve. So, we have a motion for conditional approval. I second. Second. We have a motion in a second. Um, all in favor? I No opposed. Your application stands approved. Thank you for the presentation. Thank you for Thank you. [laughter] I commend your adherence to the rules of order.

Thank you. All right. Our next order of business uh thank you board. Next order of business is um the site plan uh and design review application number 65. Mr. Steven Brea

Brea uh thank you with Jackson Taylor Contractors on behalf of the property owner 32-36 public square LLC is requesting site plan and design review approval for a proposed multi-tenant commercial building to be located at a lot located at the corner of Capitol Parkway and Crow Road also known as parcel number 08- A- 020-0000-49 9-0. Uh, may I ask representatives to come to the podium, identify yourself, name and address, and uh, like to hear from you. Thank you. Uh, real quick, Mr. Chairman, I I have to recuse myself because I have a conflict, a potential conflict with this applicant. This applicant?

Yes. So, I will I will become legal counsel for

you. [laughter] Do it. Thanks, Brian. Uh Steven Breaker with Jackson Taylor Contractor 7047 Spinach Drive in Menor. And as you said, we are looking to develop the property at the corner of Capitol and Crawl Road. We're looking to construct a 12,000 ft um multi-tenant building. Um we currently have a uh two tenants um signed up. one, it will be a um fast casual dining restaurant and the second would be a urgent care of sorts. Um there is a third one, but we're not at liberty to quite disclose that as of yet. Um so, as I mentioned, 12,000 foot um building. Uh five tenants overall would be in that property. Um, I did happen to notice going through your staff report, uh, a few questions. Um, one of which was which, uh, dumpster enclosure would be constructed. Um, early on we had conversations with Heather and some of the other folks with within the township. Um, and originally we had a singular dumpster enclosure kind of caddy cornered off to the souththeast side of the building. Um, and it was quite large to support the amount of containers needed for those five tenant spaces. Um so what we did was we broke that larger unit into two separate units on either side of the building that will be less obtrusive visually. Um so both of those would be constructed.

Okay. Um and I did also notice some comments on the sign height which we don't have any issues I I believe with uh reducing that size to the 12oot maximum. Um I know there was a few other variances that we had granted which allowed us to have our parking um placed as it is. Uh in addition to having our entry drive uh which is actually a shared drive that was previously constructed when they redid that roadway.

Um it's actually positioned slightly favoring the neighboring property. Um, so we were granted a variance to be able to extend that apron a little bit so that we can have a full drive lane width into the property, which would then allow traffic to flow into the parking lot and also service a one-way road from New Cryle to Old Cryle. Um, that would also become what I've seen noted in here as the fire lane for access around the building. And then traffic could also flow in and out of uh Old Cryle as well. Good feature addition. Yeah. from an engineer. Yeah, it's good. Continue, please. Uh, no, that's pretty much all I have, but just uh any questions for you guys?

Oh, okay. Um, Heather, before I go to the board, you want to comment on comment on your comments? Comment on my overview overview your comments for us? Anything to highlight? Um, for the board, just this is um definitely a unique lot with the three rightaways. Yeah. Um, so I think uh trying to do a four-sided design like for the building um was probably tricky. I did have a followup on so the the dumpster enclosure details that were provided. Um I understand there's two going to be constructed but there were two different sizes and things of that nature with different specifications. So that's why I was asking for clarification.

Okay, I will double check on that. Yeah, because there were two different they they they would be the same both sides. I will I will confirm which one of those details it is for you. That's what I was That's what I was clarification on. Um yeah and and I know in the staff report we talked about the uses. Thanks for sharing what those are. If any of the uses need uh BCA approval, those will obviously go to the BZA first before they're given any kind of approval to build out those tenant spaces or to occupy those spaces. Um they designed the parking, you know, around what they think the uses are going to be. Um there those would be conditional uses if it didn't meet the zoning. Is that what you're saying? No, like so the counter service restaurant. Uh

I think you called it fast. It's my understanding it's a counter service. Um per our zoning resolution requires a conditional permit. So you're not necessarily approving the uses that are going in the buildings. You're approving the site plan, the layout, the design, the landscaping, and all the lighting and everything else that goes along with that. And

um obviously if there was a use that they were specifically telling us that was not permitted, you would know that. Um but that's not you know this case or anything like that. So um I know one thing that will probably come up is this this um idea of this uh sidewalk um in the capital district. It the zoning resolution does give the zoning commission the ability to ask for one. And in the past there was um a request on another property just south of here um with another one in between that has not come up for redevelopment yet. But which is why I'd ask the applicants to to show that on here. Um,

so there could at least be a discussion point. I know that we're trying to address that in our comprehensive plan to see what exactly we trying to refine a little bit. Is it a sidewalk? Is it a multi-use path or something like that? Um, so um, okay. I think that there'll probably be a lot of questions about that from all sides. Thank you, Heather. Thank you. Um, okay. So, um, before I I'm going to go go to each of the board members here for questions or comments for the applicant or that you may have. Frank, just I guess a personal question. Mhm.

You're going to have food business in one area and the healthc care in the same building. Are they going to be isolated from each other or are they butt up to each other as far as um the design criteria? Those two units uh those two units would be adjacent to each other. Yes. Um they have demising walls within the building obviously. Um there are we actually positioned the handicap spots within the site to kind of favor the um the healthcare facility assuming that they would probably be more used for the healthcare facility. Um but yeah they are they are adjacent to each other.

Okay. Is our is there special design criteria you have to meet because of the those type of establishments? No. Not that I'm aware of. Bri thank you. Anything else? That's right. Hyram. No comments. None at all. I'm shocked. Amanda, no. I know. I know it's a wellprepared set of plans, but Yes, it is. Of course, I know Mark does. Are you asking me now?

Yes, Mark. Well, I want to head said at the onset that this this is a project, a building that has four faces. And so, I I think you've done a good job. so far. Um, but there's a lot of work to continue and we are going to be looking to Heather to make sure that it's done correctly and and and bring us into it sooner than later if we need to help you with anything. Okay,

good. Okay. Well, I'll start with their um the building. Um, did you I the notations in the drawings indicate color. Did you bring any samples of the material, the color scheme cuz it's Greek to me. We We actually do have in my truck. I I mean the color we did get a colored rendering, but I'm not sure that depicts what the building's going to be. We We weren't sure. We We brought He's going to go around. He did. All right. Yeah. So making the last

Yeah. Was um how did you arrive at a architecture? I'll just say it looks rather industrial. Is it intended to be industrial? No, I don't think so. Um Okay. The the stone that was selected I I'll I'll let I'll let him bring the Well, brick. Okay. brick. Sorry, cuz the crearyy has stone. That's just what I was asking because while Yeah. I mean, we we did I think originally we kind of looked to their design as some inspiration because if if you could have a cohesive design with the buildings around obviously where it was going,

right? So, we did kind of initially start there. Um we had a few design different ideas as we went on and the design developed. Um, I'll let him bring in the uh samples and continue to speak to how we landed here.

You might want to see back there. So, this is what is selected for the brick band. It goes across the bottom. It is the bottom. Okay. The Wayne's coat. Yeah. Yeah. And then this is your uh majority facade. And then the darker brick here is on your columns. H. Okay. And then this is your uh wood element that's featured on the uh above the above above the storefront. The doors above the storefront. That's Oh, okay. That's a It's like a a woodlook metal siding.

Woodlook metal siding. Okay. I I saw the notes on siding, but I didn't didn't because it looks the same color as the brick, but it isn't. Okay. There's some contrast in there. Okay. And then what about the south elevation then that goes Well, okay. So, this I was getting that one since you didn't ask. Well, I was So, the the south Yeah. So, the south CMU wall. So, the south elevation would be the same. This it is. Yes. Okay. side. Did the plans show that? I'm sorry. It shows the Did I read the architectural plans correctly?

Yeah, I read the schedule. The schedule says BRK 3. That's PRK3. BRK3, but in the front it's BRK1. That's why I was asking. At least it's Am I reading that right? So I I believe the BRK1 is the darker brown that's on the um columns or is there

I think one is your field color, two are the dark accent and three is the light and rear. So the RK1 is the Jav chase. BRK3 is the Jav chase smoked marble. You don't Do you see it, Mark? Yeah. So the BRK3 is the entire

Yeah. So the BRK3 is that that white kind of split face brick. Yes. Okay. that [clears throat] runs along the bottom and the entirety of the back with the exception of the two columns at the side which wrapid. Then what's BRK2? BRK2 is that decorative looking brick dark one? Yeah, BRK2 is this. It's the shade in between. It's that one. Okay. So, the majority of the wall is BRK2. That's that. Correct. Yeah. Okay. That's that one. Okay. Okay. Okay. accented by the light on the bottom and then the darker color. Okay.

Were the roof lines chosen to similar to the the the the varying roof line? The roof line. How is it? Yeah. Slope cuz the cream area is sloped. It was talked about in your design review guide that there should be some sloped roof elements. Yeah. Okay. That's what it did. It gave us some opportunities to get some visible slope and also where the canopies project forward actually helps drain everything onto the main roof so there's no uh gutters or down spouts on the front of the building. Well, I do like it's twotory height for one story use. I don't know if I'm saying that right. Right. One story twotory height. So, it's gives some

especially since you're back and you got parking in front. Okay. Okay. That's my question is architecturally. Um so on the site did you have a wetlands delineation performed? Is that why it's marked? Correct. Did you did we get a report? It's did did we need something to document that? We do not have a copy of of that. It's being refreshed right now. We'll get you a copy of it.

I'm just contractors. Oh, okay. Thank you. Um, so yeah, it's um many times I gone there. I didn't think there was any wet I didn't think there was wetlands and it it's probably a ditch. It is. Okay. It was it was u the pond in the property across capital backs up Yeah. onto there. Yeah. Um, it's the low end of our site. It's not a very high quality butland, but

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't think so. Uh um, so the, uh, how do with multiple tenants? Uh, are you anticipating any advanced directional signage to the because you have two ways in and out. I mean it it is intended for Cryle Road to be the main entrance because that's where your sign is. So is the other entrance apron out to Old Cryle for emergency act because you already have a lane for fire. Is that intended to be so I mean

people who frequent it they'll be able to use it. I would argue that yeah, I mean, Cryle Road is going to be the the primary entry exit because as you're approaching the building and you, you know, you're going to enter that way, right? Um, but depending on which direction somebody's going to be traveling, okay? Um, you know, they may choose to exit out old file, if they're going to continue down that way, it might be more expedient for them. Um, reducing the amount of traffic that might be waiting at one entrance or exit. Again, it's a great picture feature

that uh promotes uh circulation, traffic circulation, better circulation. No doubt. No doubt. Especially as this area continues to develop. Um um I had I had a question what was in front of the building, but I answered it from the landscape plan. It's a lawn area there and I the landscape plan I think is very well done. I looked at that from your LA where we're we're very well done. Um, now from a regulatory perspective, Old Cryle sits in the state right of way. Um, you're aware of that, right? Yeah. So, I and I'm I'm just bringing that up in case you needed a ODOT permit. you're accessing state right ofway old cryle's in there but I had conferred with Heather earlier um the township has presumably some type of agreement they maintain old cryle maintain is one thing I'm just raising yellow flag caution you just so you don't get caught [laughter] if you needed the state to give you a access because you're in you're accessing their right ofway the the rightway the ODOT multiple points. You're you are into ODOT's right away. Are you aware of that? By the way,

we were made aware of this. Okay. Okay. Thank you. I appreciate this when I was not aware that that Yeah, just it's just a check with district 12 just to say, hey, we're, you know, then they might indicate. Correct me if I'm wrong, Heather. I know the township has uh uh obligations for maintaining the road old crow but but there might still be a rightway permit Mike yeah I mean it could be something just from my experience yeah I spoke with our service department director and he thought you you could deal just with him but if you want you know as Mr. right out.

Just a a caution. [laughter] You think? Yeah.

Yeah. Um, okay. I had Oops. Uh, forgive me a second here. Oh, sorry. Um, back to the building. Um, those are individual and and the north uh the north elevation west and east. Those are individual windows, right? These are there's sections. It's commercial storage, right?

Commercial. So, it'll look it's going to look like a commercial be a masonry separation between between each window. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Um Yeah. Go ahead. Well, I was going to say I wanted to to to carry on with that and again go back to the south elevation because I I I don't I see that you're not carrying any kind of architectural accents back there. It's going to look pretty industrial. And that aside, I'm looking now at the fixtures, the W the W1's

and how high they are. and also that they're going to carry around to the would it be the [snorts] east elevation? They're not shown on there, but when you look at the the site plan, you see that you have the wall packs that are up high. They're going to be firing out toward Crawl Road. I'm just wondering if we ought to rethink some of that lighting. Those are W the W1s are Are they downcast or they're Well, it doesn't really say.

But they're up high on south elevation and they're not shown on the east elevation, but they're shown on the site plan. So, those are those are more or less um shooting down. Looking at our phototric, um you're you're about one one and a half uh we have foot candles. Yeah, foot candles.

And then you've got your your actual um parking lot, you know, pole lights um where you come up to like 2.6 ft candle around the back curb line. But there's I mean those those wall packs aren't they're not like flood lights that are shining out to the road. That's my concern. More or less. Those are illuminating that that sidewalk um adjacent to the parking lot between the parking lot and the building. Between the parking lot and building. Okay. Mr. Horton, I think on on sheet PM2, you can see the the wall one like the fixture. Yeah, I found it before. Now

it is a download. um facing well. Oh, thanks Heather. Yes. Yeah. W1. And so that's a [snorts] I didn't see the wattage. It's aluminum. Aluminums is 2732. Wattage 21 watts. Okay. So that's not that Mhm. hot. That's not that hot. No. So then going back to the architectural on the south elevation, I mean it's again again and like you said it's got four faces and it's going to be seen. So that's just the way it is. It's going to be seen. Is there any thought of maybe doing some

There are some rhythms down. Yeah. Vertical rhythms and are those going to be dark too? just the ones on the end at this point because it because it continues on the corner to the one back here. Mhm. But we were going to keep a more monochrome on the back. They didn't want to draw attention to the back of the building by putting the stripes down. Well, that's right. It has a double-edged sword. I understand. Yeah. Yeah. They have an old property to this to the south. Yeah.

Um Yeah. Most of the the traffic is to it is probably coming from the south. No. Oh, north, south, north and south. Okay. Um, anything else? No, thank you.

Okay. Thank you. Um, for the for uh the new members of the board. Oh, I'm sorry. Um the comment uh maybe Heather can answer the the I I circle the comment from the storm water department from Steve Hower that uh his last comment Heather says there plans are subject to detailed review and revision. The last comment from Steve, right? I'm sorry. Are you asking me?

Yes. Yes. So, in in in [clears throat] a conditional approval, we don't have Sorry, too many too much paperwork up here. Answer that while. Yes. Yeah. Rich, please. Rich Caner radio land design consultants engineers and surveyors 9025 Men 9025 Osborne Drive Min Ohio um we've been in conjunction we've been in in discussion with Steve hower we've addressed 90% of the comments and we're near approval on with storm water um wins water the county department utilities

and you know we've submitted to all the the other reviewing agencies So yeah, that was where Thank you, Rich. My questions are really it should it be part of the condition, one of the conditions in a conditional approval. Uh but like I said, they can't proceed without approval from the storm water management department anyway. Right. Yeah.

So Okay. All right. The point's moved. Um, okay. Let me go back to uh a little bit of history here for our new members. So, the [clears throat] the district, this is called this is the capital district. in the capital district. Um it a really a special district created in 2015 2015 uh that was designed to promote a more coordinated development um properties and a town center if you will on the west side of 44 Capitol Parkway to Auburn.

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It was the vision town center uh mixed use um and and connectivity uh if you will and I'll put it in general but if you uh take some time to re review section 22 uh of our zoning resolution section 22 provides some good narrative regarding the capital district but in particular is the because the question was about the sidewalk in particular the connection to a public sidewalk in [clears throat] the uh in this district. Um it was to intent to promote and support pedestrian movement within and within and between sites within the district. This is inclusive of this area capital district comes east of 44 as well as west within and between sites to and from the public rights away and site plans shall include pedestrian facilities complying with these standards except as otherwise provided public sidewalk question. Property owners may be required to construct or participate in the cost of construction of sidewalks in the public rightways provided in the hydroise code and then connection connection with the sidewalk connection with parking sidewalks within lots etc etc goes on to [clears throat] some detail [snorts] a year or so ago when the oh god no I'm not yeah more than a year ago when it came before us for approval the in9 property that ultimately developed the uh car wash and cremarine prop two properties three third property south of this because there's actually two two parcels between this project and the cranberry [clears throat] um the the sidewalk was we we developed I believe

Heather this is anou an agreement with the developer uh owner uh of that parcel that if and when the zoning commission determines you will still construct the sidewalk. So there were um obstacles as there are obstacles here to constructing it as per you know as typical when you put a butt up against rightway meaning fire hydrants grading ditches and whatnot. So there was some object objection met later on. We as the project went on, we asked to get the sidewalk built. We want the sidewalk and we agreed to way that if you will and that's why we have on

that's why we have it tabled until July of 26. And so concurrent with that then the township trustees engaged consultant and we're closing in on the completion of a new comprehensive plan which uh I think the feeling of our board correct me my senior members over here if I'm correct we were looking to see if there was still going to be some agreement or change in promoting pedestrian public sidewalks on the east side to cross 44

to the west side because that's essentially what where else is it going to go [laughter] and uh so I questioned it at the time myself even with the comprehensive plan. So that that's what we we did. We have an agreement with them to July 26. Am I right on saying that? Well theou was for up to five years up to five years. I don't know off the top of my head when that five years expires but yes um they had started attending some zoning commission meetings to discuss the actual construction of it. Right. Whereas we put a pause on that until July of 2026 hoping that we would have additional feedback.

Right. Right. So hence is why you see the in the plan um in the site plan the provisions for potential future walk and obviously they have besides hydrants they've got a bit of wetlands to uh mitigate if um if it was built you know along that that corridor as uh as shown. So uh the question before us is um in the conditional approval [clears throat] [snorts] uh do we uh approve it as submitted potential doesn't commit them to it but um um my humble opinion is they should be administered the same way we did with IN9 and we provide we gave them was an MU which Heather described as up to five years or it said right or when the zoning commission determines you shall

am I correct or in general. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't have a copy of Right. Right. Right. So, having said all that, I'm sorry I'm long-winded, but just some history to it. Um Heather, in terms of what you've seen in terms of development of the plan, the comprehensible is this is this type of pedestrian access in the capital district uh been dis been reviewed or considered like should they continue that type of approach in capital district or not?

Um well, as you know, it's still a plan. It's still in progress. Hasn't been adopted by the trustees. So um and they haven't really seen any final draft versions of that, but I can tell you that um there were a lot of question, you know, there was a there were some themes around connectivity and there was a lot of um discussion about um the bike paths and the greenway and and looking at potentially making connections and um and also relooking at the town center and and some of the same things that we had in the comp plan and and I think what we were

um hearing from residents is they are looking to be connected to different places like um and they're they're looking for that kind of connectivity. I know like um so the way it's kind of shaping up now it it appears as it like that in this area that we would be looking for some connections. Um I don't know if it's necessarily a sidewalk or some kind of multi-use path at this point. Um, but it there was the desire from, you know, through the surveys that we did too from some of the residents here obviously that are

looking for these kind of things too. And I know like when we did the Longwood Plaza uh project there, if you remember, we I don't know if they came in front um there was a lot of residents that were asking about that lived off of Hunting Lake Drive that were like there's no sidewalks, we can't walk there, those kind of things. So, we were hearing that on other applications um too. Um, so good. Thank you. Yep. I hope that helps.

There was also discussions at one time many years ago of putting a pedestrian walkway across 44. So it would enhance the area for people living in Quail Hollow that they'd be able to not only walk, it'll also be able to go across and use all the development that has taken place on the upper side of the street. They talked about that also.

Yeah. whether something like that might come up again when we have this big meeting coming up on the 28th. That might be something that people are going to look at doing also because they wanted to be able to make it an area not only that you could drive around but you can walk and bike and since there's so much going on with people living in Quail Hollow and all the development for the stores and everything else on the opposite side of 44. They thought that would be a viable thing to consider also so they can get the use of both sides. Hence making it possible with more walkways for sidewalks. Sidewalks like we're discussing already.

Mhm. I admit I'm not familiar enough with the capital district uh yet, but does it enable any special assessments to be um used for any of this infrastructure, future infrastructure? No, it it was it was doesn't contemplate the potential of assessment. Yes. and does it contemplate the zoning doesn't doesn't have anything trustees at all think have a discretion but no okay

you know the the as properties develop redevelop this is the opportunity to get it built so it seems to me what this plan is great I I don't I mean I think you've heard from a lot of the board [clears throat] it's a good good design get good features looking for new businesses, good design. But the the walk um it seems to me that we need to have some uh documentation, some some obligation on your part that that will be built when right the township wants it built

like theou like the right. Yeah. uh extend the because without requiring it now then we're at a loss um right

for the for the future but then if the future doesn't then it then it go then it goes away but um it seems to me we need to honor that as we did with the neighboring property. If the neighbor property between redevelops, we're going to have to we'll ask for that again um to complete to complete the vision that was developed in the plan the original plan in 2015. Um given you've heard all that you might be aware of that history. [snorts] I don't know where we're at with that. Is there any objection to to us requiring some if you will some written agreement that gives us assurances that the sidewalk will be built and it would it probably be a time frame.

Part of our issue as you know is the wetlands. Yes. Which involves the Army Corps of Engineers. It's a whole different process than you know the crearyy putting it across their lawn. Um we don't control the Army Corps. Yes. We we can't force their hand obviously, you know, right? If anything, so that section of the sidewalk may be out of our control. Yeah. And there's always exceptions to the rule. I get it. There's no doubt, especially when it comes to the federal government and protecting environment. [laughter] I I get it. Uh um and there's different ways to skin the cat, as they say. But if you can't, you can't, you can't. in general. I think they think that's what we're then then I'd have no problem. Okay.

Agreeing to that. Very good. Very good. Um so without legal counsel here, Heather. [laughter] Um is it just a sidewalk bridge? Well, is there a way that we maybe we could add it as a condition on the approval with a time frame? Um I I don't know. I just So theou came up because originally with that project, we approved the project with the sidewalks. They came back with an amended plan saying we don't want to do the sidewalks now. They're sidewalks to nowhere. Uh essentially and they were um didn't want to do them at all if you remember. And

so I didn't remember just um which is why we went into that mo you know we were able to get them to agree to thatou for five years. This was under a different law director as well. So, the current law director that the township uses would not be able to [clears throat] assist us with this [laughter] um due to the potential conflict as hence why she's not in this room currently. Um so, I don't you know if if you guys are open to, you know, the idea of building the sidewalks and maybe we could discuss like a some kind of time frame, you know, as a condition on the approval. Um uh

in terms of time frame obviously that uh not that we're holding the cards, it's just a matter of what works best. Often times and you look at engineers up here, we know when you're mobilized is the you got construction going is the best time to put it in. Um but uh will there be the same commitment from the township to extend the sidewalks cuz it's a pretty big obstacle from our property out to 44. There's got a a traffic signal controller in the way. You got power pole in the way. Um I'm sorry. Meaning west west heading west. It's pretty big obstacles to get to 44. There there are

Yeah, I can't. So, like I said, I I don't mind putting in the sidewalk as long as it's not the sidewalk to nowhere. I I don't likes that. Yeah, nobody likes that. But, well, and I don't see that on here. We don't have I don't I don't even know where it will go to how far out it goes from there. Oh, okay. I don't have I I looked at it earlier today, Heather. It's just Yeah. Yeah.

And so, the we've been talking about has a a finite five years So we could approach this the same way knowing that that the sun's going to set on us and then there comes a point where that way they can put a box around what they're obligated to and how long they're obligated for it which is I think what you did what we did before. Yeah. [snorts] Okay. Precedent seems to be there. Yeah. If there's any disgraining comments, Hyram or Frank, I mean, we have we have precedents on this. I think we ought to do it the same way, the crearyy.

Yeah. Seems seems to me except we don't have to uh move the hydrants or whatever or move the sidewalk like we do with the crearyy. Well, no, there's they're already set because he says potential. So, the the hydrants are already Yeah. in the design. No, the hydrants are in. So, that was actually going to be one of the questions I have regarding the sidewalk is if it is mandated to be installed, would it be allowable to route the sidewalk around the hydrants rather than having to relocate the hydrants? Of course. Of course. That's just another, you know, another expense to relocate those as well. Yeah, cuz we were had a

we had a difficult time with the prior applicant on this and the sidewalk is going to move. You don't have to move the height. I think started complaining about the cost to move all the hydrants and we're too uh but no it's what works best. Fair enough. Yeah. And that that involves a utility that's outside our control anyway. It's waters the county.

Taking a look at the site plan. you have a a potential future sidewalk from the north parking lot to the potential concrete sidewalk, but you don't have anything on the east side. You don't have a connection between the parking lot and the potential sidewalk on the east side, but you do on the north side. I I I believe if I remember reading through that resolution, it it talked about sidewalks to the the front of the building. It did. Which was why this was placed in this position. It did. It does. Yeah.

Yeah. That's why I guess. Yeah. So that's why. But you don't have one on the east side. This is the front cuz it's not the front. Yeah. But you don't It almost is the front, but there's a ditch there. So we we have a bridge major ditch. We're talking about a lot of other different That's not good. Yeah. So that is outside. That's a swell there, huh? Yeah. Wow. We want that. Which also will be interesting getting a sidewalk around the existing hydrants in that there's a ditch there. Mhm. So yeah.

Okay. Well, you know where the I think the the board stands with that. Okay. uh uh relative to the uh the overall plans. Again, let me just revisit if there are any other questions or comments from any of the board. Uh Frank and Hyram, no. Amanda and Mark, not here.

None. So, we have the staff recommendation for a conditional approval. as I get to get to do this. I will read it. So, um um I'm going to to read this into the record. And then if there's no objection from the board, um I'll entertain a motion from this board for a conditional approval of site plan and design review application number 65 uh on parcel number 08- A-020-0000-49-0. The conditional approval is based upon the following conditions. Uh one uh revise the landscape plan to provide shrubs in addition to the trees shown within the required landscape strip along both capital and cryle road as required in section 38.06. include plans to show how the public sidewalk will be constructed, if the hydrants will be relocated, or the sidewalk will go around said hydrants. going to amend that to also indicate uh we the applicant agrees to con to construct said sidewalk within a 5-year time frame of approval of this approval. I didn't read number three. Uh so [clears throat] I just said that uh

sorry the timeline as just said stated for the installation is is specified as 5 years from this date of conditional approval. Number four clarify which dumpster enclosure will be constructed. Um we'll strike that we have uh already on the record indicating the two two dumpsters. So we will weigh lay that item. Uh number five u revise the freestanding sign to comply with the maximum height permitted of 12 ft in l of 16 ft provided. A separate zoning permit is required to prior to installation. Number six revise the parking area landscape exhibit to exclude any areas that are less than 150 square feet in the calculations as they do not count. Uh, number seven, revise sheet three of civils zoning data to update interior parking lot landscaping provided to be 3,777 square ft and 13.9%. Update plans to provide the required fire line lane signage along the rear access drive in accordance with the county courtship fire department. Number nine, coordinate Capitol Parkway and Cryle Road right away with the Lake County Engineer. Uh number 10, coordinate o old crow road right away with Concord Township Service and the state of Ohio Department of Transportation. That would be the motion. Entertain a motion based upon all those conditions from me and from the board.

So move. We have a motion to conditionally approve project before we go to final approval. Can I or did we I got I just got a little fuzzy on theou how that dials in with what was conditionally approved. That's all. Okay. Right. And Mr. Mr. Chairman, I would also have legal counsel. I would also make sure that [snorts] you would get on the record that um the applicant is agreeable to meeting all of these conditions. thing. Thank you of enforcement here to that section. So the applicant agrees to uh the uh timeline of 5 years from the date of conditional approval for the construction of the sidewalk.

I I was saying they we want to make sure that they can stay on the record that they can agree to all of the condition. Oh, they stayed on the record. Yes, that they [laughter] all conditions. I mean, is there is anou going to be a signed separate and apart from this conditional approval? Is that what you how you did greenery? We we there was a different different different chronology of events there. Heather had recommended we just make it part of the conditional approval. Okay. Sorry. So, for the record then, gentlemen, we could have a statement that you would agree to the timeline of 5 years for construction of the sidewalk uh after after this date of conditional approval.

I'll take a step. So all the properties along there are going to be required to install the sidewalks, crearyy, the we will maintain what we have done. They're in the capital district. Well, I understand, but your memorandum, what the crearyy doesn't state it said it'd be reviewed during the um upcoming the theou just gave we just tabled it until July of 26, which is anticipated to be the completion of the comp comprehensive plan. Theou doesn't state we're reviewing it. That's when they Okay. So they're they're also everyone in this area is going to be required for sidewalks and

it we're we're trying to maintain that and if something changes then nobody will. Okay. Then the way I see it. Yeah. We're going to we're going to be consistent. You'd be fair based upon that then yes I will agree to the fiveyear timeline. Very good. Thank you. Okay. So going back I think we I had a yeah I had a motion I mean I had a yeah I had an approval for the conditional conditional approval from Hyram. Do I have a second? I second it Mr. Chairman. We have a mo uh approval u a motion and a second for the conditional approval of the site plan uh and design review application number 65. U uh roll call please. Heather. Okay. Mr. Ruffert.

Yes. Mr. Schindler. Yes, Mr. Horton. Yes, Miss Willey. Yes, Mr. Eiffel. Yes. Uh, project states approved. Congratulations, gentlemen. Um, good luck with the business. Hope hope the construction goes well. Thank you very much. Thank you all. Can I ask real quick? Now, when's construction, what's your timeline this year? Um, we have to turn over the the shell March of 27th to uh the care. Yeah, we got to keep going. Oh, wow. Wow. Okay. Good luck. Thank you. [laughter] Good luck. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you for your time. Good luck with the project.

Appreciate it. Keep all my all my neighbors together. Thanks for bringing these in. necessary. Thank you. Have a good night. Thank you.

Okay, returning to our uh our [clears throat] agenda this evening, our next order of business is sold business and uh the uh establishing a designated final date for completion of the sidewalk. Where did we hear this before? In accordance with the agreement between Concord Township Zoning Commission and the IN9 Group LLC for the property located at O'Cry and Cryle Road being parcel number 08- A-20- 0-00-048-0. The engine agenda item is still tabled until July 26 which is fast approaching. Um any comments, questions relative to that? remains t on remains table.

Any feeling from the trustees? Do we know anything? Have they discussed it at all? No. The there the comprehensive plan is the steering committee is effect another meeting and then um we had a concluding the plan. Um so at the conclusion of the plan then the trustees will I assume adopt that comprehensive plan by resolution. I think that's what occurs. Yeah. Yeah. So, no, no, no, no, no. There's and there's only there's one representative of the board, the trustees to the steering committee and and that was Morgan and then now it's

uh Mr. Wartell John Wartell our ex our ex commission [laughter] official for for a short while, right? Yeah. Yeah. Two meetings at Yeah. to it. Yeah. Okay. So, that item remains tabled and the other is the election of the vice chair which I had recommended last time that remains tabled unless there's any objection or comment from the board. That will remain tabled as well. As long as you guarantee you'll be here next month.

I will be here next month. Speaking of next month, the next our next meeting is June 2nd, 2026. Uh any other business uh for the good of this order? There being none, this meeting stands a journ. Well done.