City Council - Regular Meeting

Hey, hey, hey. Good evening and welcome to Athens City Council. It's April 20th at 7 p.m. and we have six of seven council members here. So, I will call the meeting to order and establish quorum. I would then like to accept a motion to amend this evening's agenda to exclude mention of executive session.

So I'll move. May I have a second? Um we have a motion and a second. Uh I've consulted with the law director and she has confirmed that this is not necessary for discussion this evening. Uh do we have any other discussion on the motion and second to amend the agenda? Seeing none, all in favor of amending the agenda as described, please say I. I. Any opposed, please say nay. The agenda has been amended. Next, we have disposition of minutes. May I have a motion to approve the minutes of April 6th, 2026 regular session? So move.

May I have a second? We have a motion and a second. Any discussion? Hearing no discussion, all in favor of approving the minutes for April 6th, 2026, please say I. I. Any oppose, say nay. The minutes for April 6th regular session have been unanimously approved. We now have communications. Do we have any communications or reports from current council members? Member Swink?

Well, I figured by now most everybody has mowed their grass at least once or twice, assuming you could get your gas power motor started. But I just wanted to remind people in the city that we still have some funds available. Uh the Great Athens gas powered tradein program. It's called something else, but that sounds pretty good. If you have a power mower, you can take it in and get uh turn it in, buy another one, bring your receipt, and get a check up to $250. Uh the smaller the equipment, the smaller the rebate. Uh, I did this last year, turned in an old Toro um, tiller which we use on the Bob Evans bed and uh, this is the first spring and I don't know how many years I simply pulled the batteries from the wall, plugged it in the machine and away I went. So I would encourage you to take advantage of this program. Gas powered mowers, gas powered leaf blowers, gas powered string trimmers, gas powered anything but your car and the rebates up to $250. And you can access that through the city website. the application process.

Thank you, Member Swank. Do we have any other communications from council members? Other elected officials? Mayor, do you have any communications or report items tonight? letting council know that this Wednesday I'll be on Capitol Hill at the Rayburn building giving testimony on the the benefits of community choice aggregation um when it comes to our citizens being able to purchase electricity or gas for that matter at a lower than price to compare often sometimes not but often is the case. Um, and also speaking to our carbon fee, which they're very intrigued by, the fact that the city of Athens back in 2018 passed by 76% of the vote um a 02 cent per kilowatt hour addition onto their electric bill for solar initiatives on government buildings in the city of Athens. So, I'm excited to be sharing that with Congress. Uh the other thing I want to share was an interesting um conversation that I had with Ben Ze, our mobility coordinator at HABCAP. Um and we were discussing among other things that we've been talking about with the ballot initiative for the income tax increase in the city of Athens. You know, the fact that one of our mixes under our general revenue that council passes every year, there is a certain percentage that goes to transit. That includes the monies that go to Athens public transit. Athens public transit, as everyone is aware, does not operate on Saturdays. I've heard loud and clear from individuals in the city that would like to see Saturday traffic

or Saturday transit come back again. And so there is an opportunity with success with the income tax increase to be able to bring back in 2028 uh maybe late 2027 Saturday service because of the way that we structure the general revenue mix in the city of Athens. So, uh, something that I would commit to, uh, but again, it's predicated upon this passage. So, we've talked a lot about all the the issues with general revenue coming in versus expenses. This is an item that has not been discussed um, in any level of detail. Um, I would actually like to see Saturday and Sunday service come back again. I've heard loud and clear in particular from the international student body, the graduate students and undergraduates who are sitting there saying, "How do I get groceries from Kroger or from Aldi's or from name a place that sells groceries um on Saturdays or Sundays if I don't have a car um nor am I permitted to have a car in the city of Athens?" So, this is another thing that I think would certainly benefit everyone to have Saturday service come back. It's not just a a a uh international student or a graduate student, undergraduate student at Ohio University. We have a lot of citizens in the city of Athens that use Athens public transit and in particular um would love to see Saturday service come back again so that they can also get the mobility that not only they want, but they deserve in the city of Athens. So, uh just wanted to share that with council. It was a fruitful conversation and again I just want to share that I'm committed to doing that but it it a lot's going to depend on what happens at the beginning of May.

Thank you Mr. Mayor. Do we have any other reports from elected officials present this evening? All right. No.

Seeing none we'll move on to ordinances for second reading. First ordinance 29-26. an ordinance authorizing the conveyance of a surplus city-owned parcel on Hudson Avenue to community building partners LLC in furtherance of the Welcome Home Ohio grant program and authorizing the mayor to execute all related documents in declaring an emergency introduced by council member Swank. Ordinance 30-26, an ordinance authorizing the mayor to enter into a one-year agreement with Sunday Horizons, a consulting firm, introduced by Council Member Swink. Ordinance 31-26, an ordinance amending Ordinance 16-26 authorizing the service safety director to close streets in the uptown area for 2026 special events and to change requested dates or cancel events as necessary. Introduced by council member Claude Felder. Ordinance 32-26, an ordinance authorizing the service safety director to enter into an agreement with the Sustainable Ohio Public Energy Council, SOPC, to receive electric vehicle charging stations and authorize their installation on public property, introduced by council member Claude Felter. Ordinance 33-26, an ordinance amending the 2026 appropriation ordinance 120-25 to reconcile federal and state pass through payments introduced by council member Thomas. Ordinance 34-26, an ordinance amending ordinance 121-25 authorizing 2026 staffing levels introduced by the finance and personnel committee. Ordinance 35-26, an ordinance amending the 2026 appropriation ordinance 120-25 introduced by Council Member Thomas.

36 uh 3526 on that one. Okay. And now, ordinance 3626, an ordinance authorizing the creation of the Athens multi-purpose pavilion fund and declaring an emergency introduced by Council Member Thomas. Uh, yes. On this one, I need to ask to suspend so that we can send it to the state to establish the fund. We have a motion to suspend the rules. May I hear a second? Second. Any discussion? We have a motion and a second to suspend the rules. All in favor say I. I. Any opposed say nay. All right. The rules have been suspended unanimously. Uh,

all right. Can I have a motion to adopt 36-26? Second. We have a motion and a second. Any discussion? Seeing none, all in favor of adopting ordinance 36-26, please indicate so by saying I. I. Any oppose, say nay. Ordinance 36-26 has been adopted unanimously. Next for second reading, Ordinance 37-26, an ordinance approving a then and now certificate for payment and declaring an emergency introduced by member Thomas. I have an update on this one. Also, I also need to make a motion to suspend. Second.

We have a motion in a second. Uh, can we have a discussion with an explanation for the reason for the suspension? Uh, yeah, this is just a then and now which we need to suspend so we can pay within the 30 days dictated by the state. We have a motion and a second. Any additional discussion? Hearing none. All in favor of suspending the rules for ordinance 37-26, please indicate so by saying I. I. Any oppose say nay. The rules have been suspended for ordinance 37-26.

I motion. Yeah. Sec. Can I have a motion to adopt 37-26? Second. We have a motion and a second. All in favor of adopting 37-26, please say I.

Any oppose, say nay. Right. Ordinance 37-26 has passed and been adopted unanimously. For second reading, Ordinance 38-26, an ordinance authorizing the purchase of a replacement dump truck for the sewer department and disposal of the current dump truck, introduced by council member Isherwood. Ordinance 3926, an ordinance authorizing a contract with the Washington County Commissioners and declaring an emergency introduced by Council Member Isherwood. We now move on to ordinances for first reading. Ordinance 40-26, an ordinance authorizing the mayor to make application and enter into a project agreement with the Ohio Department of Natural Resources introduced by Council Member Wood. Um, do we have any comments or explanation that you'd like to share for ordinance 40-26 to have it read for the first time? Member Wood.

Yeah, certainly. Uh, this is a, uh, sort of authorizing the grant because the state of Ohio wants to know that we've got approval to execute the project ahead of time before they send us the funds. Basically, um we've done this two years, two two years previously, I think is the correct uh the last time that we did it. Um it's boilerplate language saying that uh we have approved the project that the parks department is going to take on. Um yeah, thank you. Member Wood, do we have any discussion from council? Member Swank? Uh two questions. Do we know what that project is?

Yeah, uh there are a couple of projects in the works. Um there is the uh gowandi nature preserve as part of it. Um and I think that's a key key element which is sort of uh and I'm going to punt to the mayor but I believe that was donated by the Gwandi family to the city. We're adding trails and the like to sort of uh make that a a public park that works for more folks. So that's the primary project that we're doing. Okay. The second question is uh will this involve any city matching funds? No, I don't think so. I think it's all uh state funds.

Yeah. Yeah. I'll punt to the mayor.

You don't have to punt. Um I'll just add a little bit to your comment for some context. As was indicated, the Gui family donated that five acres. It's about 5.5 acres of land off of Cardiff Drive on the south side of the city. Um it then several years later the dollar family um offered another I believe it was 13 acres maybe more almost 17 acres if I now that I think about it of land that is off of Far Hills uh and Avaline over again on the south side. So these are now um continuous and contiguous properties. I believe we purchased that land from the Dollar family many years ago for somewhere between 20 and $30,000 knowing that we in the future could create a trail system, park system larger than than our acceptance of the 13.5 acres of land that is Camp Rotan uh and creating a larger recreational space. So the trails I believe would go beyond Guandi um preserve and into Dowler as well as we're looking at this. But again, this is uh would be 100% from ODNR to put in a trail system up there, which is wonderful. We don't have a trail system like this on the south side of the city. Um and so this would complement Cells Park trail system, which goes, as everyone knows, all the way up over the the ridge down into Dow Lake and Straouds Run. So, this would open up a new opportunity. And there is something that I've been exploring with this potential project. There is a a plateaued area within off of Avaline within the Dowler preserve that could actually make for a nice ADA accessible hiking trail. Currently, we don't have such a thing other than our

bike uh the bike path through the city. Of course, that's accessible. Uh but when it comes to the trails that go up into Cells Park, just because of terrain and topography, you know, that that that can't be done other than the switchback system that gets people up to the pond in Cells Park, which was put in with the Nature Works grant many years ago. I want to say 2016, 2017. Um, but that's an option too with what we're looking at um on the dollar portion of the dollar Guandi Camper Tan project.

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Do we have any further comment or discussion from council members? Any other comments, Mr. Mayor? Audience, do we have any uh comment on the first reading of ordinance 40-26? All right, seeing none, ordinance 40-26 has been read for the first time. Also for first reading, Ordinance 41-26, an ordinance authorizing participation in the Ohio Department of Transportation's cooperative purchasing program and declaring an emergency, introduced by Council Member Claude Felder.

Thank you, President McCary. So, this is something that comes up every year. Um, the city of Athens buys road salt for the next winter. So winter may be starting in December or so this of 2026 and going on into 2027. We buy that in April because the state of Ohio has a kind of a collective purchasing program and so it saves us money to buy it from the state in that program. Um and so we do this every year and this is just asking um city council to authorize the city to do this again. Um it's actually saves the residents of the city money to do it this way and it has to be done in advance in April which um when is which is when the state offers that and the state has a deadline that's coming up so we do need to uh to suspend and pass this uh or at least suspend this tonight to consider passing it. So could I get a motion to suspend the rules for this

second? We have a motion and a second. Any discussion on the suspension of the rules for ordinance 41-26? Member Swink? I can't find the state deadline in here anywhere. Or do you know what that deadline is? I don't, but I was asked to get this completed tonight. So, I think it's soon. I believe it's in early May. Yeah. um in which this has to be by council in order for us to get into the basically collective purchasing of salt agreed and our next full council meeting is on May 4th so we need to get this completed tonight section seven no that said that says resend and I would

that doesn't say enter into I would just wonder when the deadline was I remember it being in early May too so I think we have to do this today. Well, okay. Okay. We've had some suspension on the some discussion on the suspension of the rules for ordinance 41-26. Any further discussion? Right. We have a motion and a second. All in favor of suspending the rules for ordinance 41-26, please indicate so by saying I. Any oppose say nay. All right. The rules have been suspended. Um, could I get a motion to approve this? So we have a motion. Can we have a second? Second.

We have a motion and a second. Uh all in favor of approve. Oh, any discussion uh before we vote on ordinance 41-26. All right. Seeing none, all in favor say I. I.

Any opposed say nay. All right. Ordinance 41-26 has passed unanimously. Next for first reading, Ordinance 42-26, an ordinance amending the 2026 appropriation ordinance 120-25 introduced by Council Member Thomas. Um, yeah, we discussed this last week in committee. This is a couple different appropriations. The first one is the 65,000 to general fund police to replace the uh voice logger and radio. I sent on additional information to the committee those that requested and yeah are there any additional questions on that part before we move on to the rest of the the other three uh appropriations in this to explain because they're unrelated. Nope. All right. Uh the next three appropriations in this are from street water street water and sewer funds for the public safety training facility project 373. These were not encumbered at the end of 2025 and need to be reappropriated from the unappropriated balance. Um just some catching up that didn't get done before the end of last year.

Any questions? Member Swink. Yeah, these are all pretty straightforward. U more of an update on how that facility is coming in terms of being accessible for training and use. I actually drove by the other night. I'm sure the mayor has more information, but it's good. I have enough to be dangerous. Um

um I received photographs from Chief Rhymer and literally the training facility is stacking up. Um and they're it's like watching Lego to where they came in. It's a series of conx boxes, but they have been modified to be a burn building, but not just a burn building. They can be used. And we're we're we're speaking about this as a safety service training center because it's not just fire. It's also for police. It's for search and rescue in a uh unlit um environment to where if the police department has to go and search in a potentially hazardous space, uh they can be using it for that training, too. It could be used for a number of things. The other thing that's interesting about it is that it will give training for for um elevated porch or patio rescue, which I have not seen a training facility like that before. It will also allow for basement even though there is no subterranean. They have it set up to where it would basically mimic on one of the lower level or first story if you will conx boxes to where it mimics having to rescue somebody from the basement of a structure and get them out to safety. Again, whether it's police or fire. Um so it's coming along very well. Council Member Swank, it's rather impressive to see this thing come together and we will absolutely let council and the public know when we have a ribbon cutting ceremony. We will also be doing an invite reaching out to TST. Just as a reminder to everybody who's here and anyone who's watching, the 13 plus acres of land that we are using this for to include the new EMS station that is at the end of Kenny Drive, that was land that was literally donated by the highest levels of TST in Japan to

sit there and say, "Yes, we will give this to the city of Athens at no charge for the use of public safety training, public safety key endeavors and I we've honored that um request from TSTC. So we'll be inviting TSte and who knows whether someone from the seauite um in Japan comes over or not. That would be wonderful. Um but we will certainly have those who operate the TST building right next door to where this facility will be. Will um we be able to uh make this available to other police and fire in the area on a subscription basis or however that's handled. I don't know if they just voluntarily come or we can actually charge for that because not everybody has one of these.

That is correct. Um not everyone does have one of these. If my memory serves me correctly, the closest to the city of Athens that is a publicly owned and operated center. Um although it is it's it's probably a decade plus old is one in Wilston, Ohio.

Um and I know that Hawking College they have a program for fire training. Theirs is a little bit different. It's you pay tuition to use, you know, to go through that program. Um, but I think to answer your question more fully, Chief Rhymer will be looking to see how we work things with in particular getting our the volunteer fire departments in the region. I'm not talking just Athens County, we're talking MIGs, we're talking Venton, we're talking others, that is it's easier for them to travel here into the city of Athens than to travel elsewhere. certainly easier for those counties and counties surrounding us, Hawking County to make it all the way up to Reynoldsburg to the fire training academy. Um, so uh I will follow up on that question to make sure exactly and then I can brief council. I can also bring it up at the next regular session to talk through what the plan is from Chief Rhymer's mindset as to how we structure something like that to provide the best training possible to not only other regulars but the volunteer fire departments because that's where the real need is. Council member Swank is making sure that we have a more regionalized well-trained um in really technical skills but just basic firefighting after they've gone through the academy or elsewhere to get their their F1.

Thank you. Firefighter one.

Any additional questions on that? That's all I have. Thank you, member Thomas. Ordinance 42-26 point information on um the rockol purchasing the deadline is May 1st. That's to resend the agreement. No, if you go the O website the city must provide the application by the first. Okay. Okay. Yeah, that wasn't in the ordinance. It may first in the ordinance says resent. Great. Thank you, Paul. I believe we have ordinance 42-26 read for the first time. Is that right, Member Thomas? Correct. Okay. Wonderful. Moving on to first reading for ordinance 43-26. Oh, m Mr. Mayor. Yes,

sorry, off the press. To go back to council member's question, um I just received notification that um there may be a fee associated with maintenance of the facility itself with those who come in um to train from outside the city of Athens. Uh, and so I'm sure that Chief Rhymer will continue to look at what that looks like as we move forward in time, but as soon as he puts that together, I'll make sure council is well aware. Well, it benefits us to have those people trained because there are situations where we support them and they support us. Yeah.

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Member Swank. Um, 42-26 has been read for the first time. Ordinance 43-26, an ordinance approving a then and now certificate for payment and declaring an emergency introduced by council member Thomas. Uh yeah, just another then and now. Uh this is the amount of $3,742 uh to cover a deductible for a u mowing incident with a pole last summer. And I would need to ask to suspend this because it's then and now. And can I have a motion to suspend? So moved. Second. We have a motion and a second. Do we have any discussion on suspending ordinance 43-26? Member Swink.

So, if I was listening correctly at the committee meeting, the this company actually paid the bill then realized that we had a deductible. No, h it's really weird. So, that's why I asked you need to do the suspense and then the discussion. It doesn't matter cuz I can it the mower hit the pole with and had some issues with Frontier Lions. Frontiers insurance agency whoever they use when they when they have an issue then sent a claim to our insurance. They determined we did not meet the deductible criteria. So our it wasn't covered. So but they went ahead and paid it and then we are reimbursing the insurance. Okay.

Yeah. It's a needs a flowchart. Yeah. triangle. Any other discussion on the proposed suspension of the rules? All right. All in favor of suspending the rules for ordinance 43-26, indicate so by saying I. I. Any oppose, say nay. The rules have been suspended. Uh, all right. Can I have a motion to adopt 43-26? So moved. Second. We have a motion and a second. All in favor of adop Oh. Any discussion before we vote on ordinance 43-26? All right. All in favor of adopting 43-26, please indicate so by saying I. I. Any oppose say nay.

Ordinance 43-26 has been adopted unani unanimously. Right. That is our last ordinance for first reading. So we now move on to announcements and other businesses. May I have a motion to accept the December 2025 and January, February, and March 2026 financial reports? So moved. Second. We have a motion and a second. Any discussion? All right. All in favor of accepting the December 2025, January, February, and March 2026 financial reports. Please indicate so by saying I. Any oppose? Say nay.

All right. The reports have been accepted unanimously. Next, may I have a motion to accept the December 2025 and January and February 2026 credit card transactions? We have a motion and a second. Any discussion? All right. All in favor of accepting the credit card transactions for those months indicate so by saying I. I.

Any oppose? Say nay. All right. The credit card transactions for December 2025 and January and February 2026 have been accepted unanimously. We next have an opportunity for citizens to speak on legislative items and city services not covered on this evening's agenda. Anyone who wishes to do so may come to the podium where you should find a sign-in sheet to share your contact information and we'll ask you um sheet. All right. No sheet. We'll get that into the record. Yes. Uh if you would introduce yourself, let us know who you are, your address, and if you're representing yourself or an organization.

Yes. So, my name is Tristan Kenisonson. I live at 88 Central Avenue on the west side. Um and I am here representing the Athens Shade Tree Commission. Thanks you. I'll begin your three minutes and please proceed.

Okay. So um I would like to bring up two currents and I guess one is past u one current and one past um project that the city has gone through and then kind of highlight some issues that have stemmed through this. Um, so first of all, if you've walked through the front, um, you will have seen that we did some renovation work. Um, when we were renovating the parking garage, um, as part of that work, they created a sidewalk bump out. Um, in that work, they removed a tree um, and have then replaced a new tree in the new um, widen tree pit that they placed in. Um this was not on our radar at the shade tree commission at all. Um despite city code that does require that in writing. Um so I I would like to highlight you know there there have been a lot of instances where shade tree has been left out of a lot of these conversations of developments that have gone on in the city. Um you know in this case I don't think it's the worst thing. You know, that's a lot of similar stuff that we would have liked to have seen, a widened tree pit, a lot more um space in those pits. Um but if you took a look at it, it is, I believe, filled with um construction debris. So, this is very low quality soil. I have very tied out to that tree. We'll see, you know, two years in that soil if not amended. Um, this could have been a really easy win if the shade tree was looped in here. Um, if you know, anything happened to, you know, take any steps towards tree health or look into this a little bit more. Um, so, you know, that's kind of a a taster.

That one's already done. Um, so to the bigger current ongoing project is the Carpenter Street renovation. So, we are currently under, I believe, a um some sort of revitalization grant through Ohio um doing a utility rerouting all along the end of Carpenter Street in front of the Armory from I believe Congress down to East State Street um on both sides. So, this will touch on a lot of our most visible shade trees in the city. Um, we were not looped in on this at all and we had to reach out to the city administration to get any consultation on this after the work had been done. Um, we were alerted by a concerned citizen um, for us to even figure that out. Um, so currently there are, I believe, five shade trees that are totally exposed. The concrete has been jackhammered up around them. Um, and

go ahead and finish your thought. Yeah.

And they are um now drying out much quicker. Um, we've thankfully got on with um parks and wreck, arts parks and wreck to um work out a schedule to water those now that they will be much more exposed to the elements. Um but we have, you know, kind of got looped in at the last shade tree commission this last week on the plans that are going for this. Um the consultants that were using put the can I say abysmal um first plan forward. Um I'm not sure that they were looking at anything on the ground. Most of their plans require or calling for plantations over top of the flag pole at the Mason building. Um one on top of a retaining wall. Um I believe several on top of existing trees that are there. Um so this is uh you know a lot of things that could have been fixed significantly earlier into this development um with just you know one night of you know 45 minutes maybe at most of you know a shade tree commission meeting. Um so

thank you. Yeah. Uh we appreciate you bringing these concerns here. uh they've now been entered into the record and I expect you'll either hear from a member of the administration or I'll reach out to you myself. Absolutely. Thank you. Thank you. Do we have anyone else who's here from the public who'd like to speak on items not on this evening's agenda? Uh when you approach the podium, if you'd introduce yourself, let us know if you're representing yourself and or an organization and please let us know where you live. My name is Sean Hanlin. I live at 13 Fair View Avenue. I'm representing myself.

All right, I'll start your three minutes. I have lived at 13 Fair View Avenue for 10 years. Uh before that, I lived at the end of Morris Avenue by the church, more or less for an additional 10 years. The volume and frequency of noise this year has been the worst I have ever experienced. I myself have experienced rattling windows, as has my neighbor. One neighbor has quit going outside, and others have similar complaints. I understand where I live. But I would have suspected that we had a noise ordinance that would have some consequences for individuals. Individuals playing Coacella level music two or three times a week in the afternoon. The noise is louder than a court street festival. This is one house playing music for five guys in the backyard playing beer pong. I would Why do I bring that up? I would gladly tolerate some discomfort from noise if the noise was benefiting a few hundred folks on Court Street or if it was on the weekend or if it was a street festival. This noise is for none of those purposes. You might read our noise ordinance as a non-defense attorney and assume that it's a strong one. According to the police and the prosecutors and third-party legal analysis I have gotten, it is not a strong or even enforcable noise ordinance before 10 p.m. If you need proof, note that since January, there have been zero cases on the municipal court dock docket for the violation of the ordinance. I personally have called many times the the police. February 14th, March 30th, April 5th

come to mind. There are other events. In two of those instances, police visited the offending house and they turned the music down. Within 30 minutes, the music was turned back up. The police were still chatting with me one-third a mile away from the house and heard the noise themselves and went back down. You might read the ordinance and think, "Whoa, those folks are faking facing a level fourth misdemeanor for violating our request to turn the music down. you would be wrong. No citations were issued. The confrontations between myself and the offenders has led to concerns about escalation. I have bought security cameras all just so I can work in my yard on my house without hearing and I apologize the language dirty crack ho from onethird of mile away. many, many hours of police time, prosecutor time, and my time as I gather evidence to pursue a civil suit, and the mayor's time as he deals with my frantic calls as the constant barrage drives me into a rage. All this time has been wasted. It could have been stopped with a noise ordinance that was better written and properly enforced. Can I go on or shall I stop?

If you can take another 30 seconds, please do. Okay. In this case, a ticket could have been written in January with actually February with a specification that a second offense was a level fourth misdemeanor. They would have stopped it. The kids can party once, twice, two, maybe three times. They can annoy a whole section of town once, twice, two, maybe three times under that level of enforcement. Currently, they can do it three times a week all year long. Thank you.

Thank you. Do we have any other members of the public who would like to speak this evening on items not covered on tonight's agenda? We appreciate those who did come forward. And we will conclude uh this evening's Oh, first we need to get a motion to adjourn. Um do we have a motion and a second? We have a motion and a second. All in favor of adjourning, please say I. I. All post say nay. We are journed at 7:40 p.m. Thank you everyone.