Board of Commissioners - workshop

Now, members of the committee, we need an agreement to return to the public meeting. If you agree, please say yes. All right. Approval 5 votes. It has been passed with the opposite 0 votes.

We will start the public meeting again. For your information, if you want to watch our meeting on YouTube, you can connect to another site. We apologize for the inconvenience due to technical problems. We will now start the budget-related public hearing again.

4 o'clock. If you're okay, please come forward. Thank you. Thank you for being with us. Thank you. Have a good evening.

First, I would like to talk about the progress from the proposal budget to the final confirmation budget. On May 18, the CIFOD temporary county manager announced the year-end proposal budget for the 2027 meeting, and since then, some technical adjustments have been needed to the budget. As the CIFOD temporary county manager mentioned at the meeting on May 18, The committee proposed a budget including income compensation and bonuses for teachers and employees. We discussed the impact of the limited income compensation and bonuses on the region with the Cavaliers County Education Agency, and adjusted some of the recommended budgets to reflect the regional impact. As you know, we have prepared funds separately considering the regional impact of the capital improvement plan, CIP, and the possibility of income compensation of the Aeju government. The amount to meet the regional influence of the limited state government income tax has now been transferred to a general fund, and I will tell you more about it soon. First, I will explain the limited fixed budget. You will be very familiar with this table. This table shows the main items per income. Income tax, sales tax, government allowances and fees, sales and service, investment, and other financial sources are included. The items that have been approved for the fiscal year of 2027 show the current situation. The numbers were slightly different when I recommended the budget, and I will explain in detail the changed items on several slides. Profit increased by 3.52% with $43,357,2821. The last two rows of this table show the numbers at the beginning of the budget transformation process, and the difference row compares the current numbers and the numbers at the beginning. Therefore, we can see that we experienced an increase of about $8.7 million in revenue by adjusting to the actual revenue from the beginning of the budget transformation process. Next, I will explain about the expenditure. Likewise, there was an adjustment to the expenditure. Well, I will explain in detail what is included here. The income of the main government was included in the figure of the influence of the region. Again, in terms of spending, it increased by 3.52% compared to last year. If you look at the last two rows, you can compare the original plan and the current spending. The current spending is about 4.9 million dollars less than at the beginning of the plan. Income and expenses are in balance. We maintain a balanced budget. Now let's take a look at the detailed adjustment content. This is a summary of the fund. In the case of a general fund, the budget increased from about $3.13 million to $1.4 million. The other funds that were adjusted were only fire fund funds, which is because the tax rate has been changed at Mount Pleasant Fire Fund. Mount Pleasant Fire Fund suggested a 2-cent increase, but the board refused a 2-cent increase. The detailed details of the general fund can be found below. The first two items are related to the development centers and behavioral health centers that were supposed to provide security to the five offices added to the security office. As soon as the bill was prepared, the health care center provider was notified that it would raise the cost of the security officer's appointment in the security office. So $220,000 was added. Accordingly, $18,000 had to be adjusted in the above item. Previously, it was expected to receive some compensation from the Social Welfare Service, but because the action health center is paying for the two items, the previous budget has been revised. The next two items, the third and fourth items, are related to the equipment and equipment needed for the security staff of the emergency facilities and development centers. Previously, the uniform and equipment were not included in the budget, but we added them this time. The fifth item is the payment of the milestone building public budget. We received a notice that the Ministry of Social Welfare can receive a milestone building public budget because of the area used in the building. Therefore, we added revenue as much as the amount. The sixth item is $10,000 in other adjustments. In terms of revenue, the net income was $1,800, and in terms of expenses, it decreased by $4,000. The seventh item is the most important item. It reflects the teacher's income and bonus of $2.3 million proposed by the main government. We will show you a detailed slide of the impact of each school and charter school. The bonus approved by the main government is a one-time payment. So we analyzed that part, and we will show you through a slide in a moment. To balance the budget for this, we are using $1167,000 in fund balance. Previously, the amount was included as a supplementary item in the CIP plan to prepare for the potential increase in the government's income. Now we are bringing this item back to the general fund. Another item, item 9, is a limited deposit of $968,000 that was previously included in the budget. We will now remove this limited deposit and adjust it according to the income of the main government. The last item is the sales distribution. The sales tax is distributed to the county and the fire region. According to the modified calculation, you do not have to send about $ 29,000 to the fire region. This amount can be kept within the county. As you can see, in the case of a general fund, there was an adjustment of $ 1398,747 in both income and expenditure. Next is the technical adjustment of the 5-state fund. As I mentioned earlier, Mount Pleasant Board of Directors did not adopt the 2-cent bill that was previously submitted to the board and chose the 1.5-cent bill. Therefore, the interest rate is changed from 13 cents to 12.15 cents. This affects the income and expenditure of the fire-fired fund by about $41,000. As I said before, I will show you a more detailed slide about the impact of the tax impact on the student government. The first line is 4. The second line indicates an increase of 0.5% per year. This is included in the advertising budget. The next two lines are changes to the advertising budget. The first line is green. The second row, green, is a bonus. In other words, the second row is a one-time expenditure item. For example, in the case of the Cavaliers County Education Agency, we were supposed to support $160,000 in the beginning, but now we are supporting $180,000. Of these, $871,000 is one-time spending. The same goes for the Canapa Police Education Agency and Charter School. Each education agency receives a certain amount of money to be supported by the Cavaliers County Education Agency. The total influence is marked as $2.3 million under the green line at the bottom. This is the total influence of this year's Cavaliers County Education Agency. Cavaliers County Education Agency will receive $1.9 million in support. KCS will receive an additional $221,000. Cavaliers County Charter School is $160,000. Canapa Police Elementary School will receive about $19,500. Next, there are five plans including these items. The first part shows the input side. The entire five plans are divided into parts to make them look too small on the screen. The second part shows the expense side. If you look at the expense part, the entire amount is included in the 2027 fiscal year of the Cavaliers County Education budget. In the 2028 fiscal year, the amount is included except for the non-repeatable items before adding 4.5%. In conclusion, as you can see, the 2027 fiscal year has been balanced, and the lower figure is the budget for the future. According to the ad budget, about $9.6 million was estimated for the year of the 2028 resolution, but the government's repeated income increase increased from about $1.2 million to $2 million and increased to $10.8 million. I explained too quickly. Do you have any questions? Members, do you have any questions for Najee? I have one.

We have prepared a total of $6,000,000 for all students, but there is no confirmation from the government. So we moved the amount to the fund balance, and we made sure that it could be used anytime, no matter what the plan was. That's right.

What I suggested was to use all the money except for the amount when you transfer to the Capital Improvement Plan . Yes. And leave the money as a deposit. Everything is going to be as expected.

Yes.

And if the work goes as expected, there will be a chance to use it in a different way. I see. Even if there is a negotiation in Loli, I want to make sure that the budget for the professors is definitely secured.

I've only used $1167,000 so far. That's all. Do you have any other questions? The rest of the procedure is as follows.

If necessary, there is a budget workshop on June 4th, and the budget will be confirmed on June 15th.

Members, do you have any other questions for Lassi? Yes, good. You have approved the budget, right? Now we have to hold a public hearing on the budget. We need your consent and re-appointment for the public hearing.

I agree. If you agree, please say yes.

If you disagree, please say yes. All right. We will hold a budget meeting in 2027. There is only one opinion. Yes, Mr. Shien Coldwell.

Hello. Yes, I am Cheyenne Caldwell. I am a member of the North Carolina branch of Common Cause, and I am responsible for the local organization of West Piedmont. First of all, I would like to express my gratitude to the person in charge of the budget, who proposed to receive 100% of the budget requested by the Election Management Committee of Cabarrus County. This decision can never be ignored and is much more important than you think. The reason I'm here today is because I want to let you know how important it is for the Election Management Committee to secure the right budget. Budget support is based on voting approach. More voting offices, more pre-voting offices, and the weekend voting time for the elderly and first-voters to depend on. If the budget for the Election Management Committee is insufficient, You have to stand in a longer line, the number of voters is decreasing, and there is not enough support from the polling stations. The figures prove this. In 2021, Cabarrus County spent 28% less on election budget than other counties of similar size. This is about $9.80 per candidate, and the national average is about $11.40. The voting rate is 76th out of 100 counties in the state. This is not a coincidence. This year is the year of the election. In Cavaliers County, major elections such as the Security, District Prosecutor, and Judge are held. The voters will participate in the vote, but the problem is whether they have the infrastructure to support them. Supporting sufficient budget to the Election Management Committee is one of the most direct ways to show interest to voters. Thank you. Thank you. That's all. All right. If you have no more opinions, we will end the budget hearing.

Let's move on to the next case, 2.2, economic development budget. Hello. Thank you for attending.

I should have brought a different glass. My name is Tammy Y. I am currently the chairman of the board of directors of Carver Lease County Economic Development Corporation. Thank you for your support for the last few years by representing the board and employees and for your interest in this year's budget. Economic development does not happen by chance. We need resources, dedicated employees, and a systematic strategy. The Economic Development Corporation continues to engage in active business activities to create new opportunities for new companies, and is also focusing on the support of existing companies within Cavalice County. In order to do this, a report per quarter is issued to clearly reveal the business progress situation. Kelly, you may have already distributed this report, and some of you may have already seen it. Also, a monthly report is being issued, which is for providing monthly industrial resource support information for companies. This report will be useful data. It provides insight into resources related to the development, operation, and operation that existing companies can use. It is also in the process of hiring a company maintenance and startup manager who will be in charge of existing industry and new recruitment. I would like to emphasize that the initial employment and capital investment forecast came out much higher than the first announcement. This leads to a new job creation and capital investment increase for local residents. For example, Lilly first announced 600 jobs, but has employed more than 900 people so far. Red Bull also announced 600 jobs, but said it is likely to hire more people than expected. Here's a letter from Corning. Corning is a former client of Carver Lease County, but I couldn't attend tonight, but I sent a letter. Kelly will deliver this letter to everyone. Lastly, I will read a part of the letter sent by Mr. Jazz Tunnel. He is the director of the U.S. State Department for Corning. We write a letter to the members of Corning, who we respect, to express our strong support for the Corning County Economic Development Corporation. We, who have run the business as a manufacturing company for almost 30 years in Corning County, We have received direct benefits from the efforts of the Economic Development Corporation to create business environments that encourage investment and job creation. The activities of the Economic Development Corporation have played an important role in expanding and expanding the existing industry in the local community. The Economic Development Organization provides a much greater value than simple corporate placement activities. In particular, in the case of the existing industry such as us, the Economic Development Organization provides a much greater value than simple corporate placement activities. It plays an important role in connecting local government and local society. Through these partnerships, companies like us can solve workforce problems, approach educational resources, and maintain competitiveness in a market where competition is getting more and more fierce. Continuous investment in economic development is essential for maintaining this growth rate and ensuring competitiveness for the future projects and expansion opportunities of the local society. We sincerely ask the County Council to continue to support the important work that the Cavalis Economic Development Corporation, Cavalis EDC, and they are doing for local companies and citizens. Thank you for your leadership and dedication for the economic future of Carver Lease County. Once again, thank you. Thank you for your interest in this very important project in Carver Lease County. Thank you. Thank you. Members, do you have any questions for Tammy?

No. All right. Do you have any questions in yellow? No. You only asked Tammy. Why? All right. But we have to start the public hearing. Yes. We will start the public hearing on economic development and budget allocation. If there is no one to talk about this, we will end the meeting. And with Byron Hagelner, we will discuss about lively life and park, the 4.1 item. Hello.

Members and businessmen, hello. I'm standing in front of you again this evening. Franklin Park football field construction contract or a limited contract It is to discuss. Last May, you have a limited contract. To review and ask questions I'm here to discuss. The contract at the time was signed by Concord and Charlotte Football Association. Now, I would like to ask you again if you have any questions about the contract or if you would like to approve it so that the temporary county manager can sign the contract. All right. Members, do you have any questions about this contract? Can I sign with a consent? Yes, that's good.

I will submit it as a proposal. Yes, I understand. Thank you.

Thank you, mayor.

Now, let's move on to point 4.

This is a discussion on the committee and the elementary committee. Do you have any questions about the draft of the 15th election and the dismissal of the entire committee of the district setting committee? I will approve. Yes, good. 15. I will move on to the case of appointing Peter Sabo as the general secretary of the House of Representatives. Do you have any questions? I will approve. Yes, good. The next case is the re-appointment of Dr. Fons, a doctor of the Department of Family Medicine of the Republic of Korea. You have to re-appoint him on June 30, 2029. Do you all agree? Yes, I agree. All right. And you have to re-appoint Amy Zool as the representative of behavioral health. Do you all agree? Yes, I agree. All right. Matthew Long was nominated for the second seat of the House of Representatives, and Alison Palino was nominated for the third seat of the House of Representatives. Do you have any questions? Yes, I agree. In the House of Representatives, the House of Representatives, the House of Representatives, the House of Representatives, the House of Representatives, the House of Representatives, the House of Representatives, the House of Representatives, the House of Representatives, the House of Representatives, the House of Representatives, the House of Representatives, the House of Representatives, the House of Representatives, the House of Representatives, the House of Representatives, Do you agree? Yes, I agree. Good. Next, we will proceed with the construction standards for approval of the demolition fund for Seomteo Avenue 5714. Hello. Hello. Before we start, let me tell you that the first building 4.9 is actually 5714 Marian Avenue, but it's an error.

4.9, 4.10, 10, and 4.11 were all in the Peter Town area. A few years ago, buildings that were old and unsafe, and a number of complaints that children and people were wandering around there were received. So I did some research, and there were 6 to 7 violations at the time. sent a notice of violation requesting problem solving to all building owners. Some building owners cooperated to demolish the building, but 5714, Marianne Avenue, 5730 Sainte-Petre Avenue, and the buildings on 511 Athene Street did not take any action and were not cooperated by the building owners. Therefore, we plan to remove the buildings and take preventive measures against use. So we are asking for $ 14,800 for the demolition of 5,714 Marian buildings from the construction standard fund, $ 23,200 for the demolition of 5,730 Center Avenue buildings, and $ 16,750 for the demolition of 512 Athene buildings. If the buildings are determined to be demolished, the building owner will be issued a cost request, and the building owner must be demolished within 30 days. If it does not proceed, it will be set as a legal right.

Members, do you have any questions for MEDEC about these buildings? There is no. Is the consent for these three okay? Yes, good. I will include it in the consent. And there is also a 4.12 construction standard related information. This is a different building. This building is owned by the county.

It's in the back of the park in Midland. Midland And my house has an old basement and a broken warehouse. I notified them that they would remove the county. The cost of removal is $35,445. Yes. Do you have any questions?

Yes, I agree. Thank you.

Yes. Then we will move on to the 4.13 cooperation expansion program. Hello, Trey. Welcome. Hello, members of the committee. Thank you so much for taking the time even though you are busy today. Thank you for letting me tell you the problem today. There were a few changes in the support fund support period. For those of you who don't know, our program is cooperating with the Cavaliers County Education Office to provide a curriculum that invites you to participate in activities. Through the Kids Plus program, we are sponsoring programs from the Education Office. And we are also receiving subsidies through the Cavaliers County 4-H Foundation, a non-profit organization. Our foundation is one of the designated groups of Canon's charity, We received a recommendation to change the period of application for subsidies with Canon's self-reliance. Canon's self-reliance has several periods of application for subsidies, and we received advice that it is good to change it to this period. So last November, when I was in front of you, I switched to this period through a short-term subsidy application. And this subsidy is a large subsidy that can support our business until April next year. The funds in front of you are divided into two parts and approved, and this is the sum of $34,500 received by Canon Weiss County 4H Foundation and $2,000 received by Canon Weiss County 4H Foundation. So, two separate income increases go into two different funds, and this fund can cover the cost of running four half-and-a-half programs. And if you look at the details of the funds, one is the program allowance, and the other is the temporary temporary worker's human rights and the worker's welfare. This fund is a large support fund that is needed to maintain operation until March next year, and we are planning to apply for a subsidy again. I think I have to remit all of this money in the year of 2027. So I think I have to come back and discuss the problem. Do you have any questions? I'll answer anything. There are a lot of lists, but it's a relatively simple request. I hope so. The funds have been secured, so we can adjust the budget and take the necessary measures. All right. Then I'll sign the agreement. Thank you for your time.

Good. Then, let's move on to the issue of donating a car to the North-East Cavalry Fire Station. Hello, Kyle Biliper.

Cavalry County is receiving a request to donate a car owned by the county every year from several fire stations. The Cavalry County Fire Station and the Infra and Wealth Management Department manage these requests as a tracking document. And when the vehicle is secured, contact the fire station to see if the vehicle is still needed. Sometimes, too much time has passed, so the vehicle needed in the fire station has been secured in a different way or the needs have been changed. Over the past few months, several vehicles have been provided to the fire station, and the North Dongbuk Havaris Fire Station has confirmed that an in-ear truck is still needed. Therefore, we approve the application to approve the Ford F150 In-Ear Truck. Well, the vehicle identification number, VIN, is there, and I will explain it in detail at the regular meeting, but what I'm looking for right now is that. And the submitted document is in the form of a document that we have already signed, to show that if we did not submit it, we would have processed it as a document and sold it. You can do this according to the law. Do you have any questions? I agree. Yes, thank you. Yes, K.

Then, I will move on to the proposal that the county manager of the 4.15 case will officially nominate A.B. Fisher-Crick. Kelly, thank you. I know that I contacted you in person at the U.S. Legislative Council. Recently, our land and water resource staff helped a citizen to fill out a application. Now only the technical part remains. We need your approval, and we will send the document that we approved to the committee. I agree. Yes. Then, with Jin, we will move on to the 4.16 budget amendment to record the sale of LOBS in 2016. Hello.

Hello, members. Yes, today's first item is a budget revision of the Community Investment Fund, the 100 Fund. It is a budget for the sales approved a few months ago, and it can be formulated so that it can be reconfigured through this. This budget revision includes GASB 87 and 96 items. At the end of the year, a specific lease must be calculated as assets and the principal and interest must be recorded. Since the work is carried out after the end of the year, the budget is fully secured when the funds are deposited, so you need to make sure that it is usable. Do you have any questions? Do you agree? All right.

We will move on to the annual fund, which is the next issue, the annual budget correction. Yes, we check the expenditure history of each fund for annual fund review to see if there is any expenditure exceeding the budget.

In general, an additional income occurs in the early stages of the budget and it occurs when there is an additional expenditure. We have written a total of five BAS reports. General Fund, Land, Fire, Social Welfare, and Health Insurance Fund. For reference, in the case of health insurance funds, it is expected that the budget will be almost right, but considering the last meeting and the final application, we will ask for some of the fund balance from the fund balance. If you do not use it, the amount will go back to the fund balance. Do you have any questions? All right.

Next, we will discuss the single-year fund, which was revised at the end of the year.

Now, this is a single-year fund. It is similar to the annual fund, but this fund is reviewed to check whether there is a part that needs to be revised. If there is a different amount or a small amount for each item, it is a work to organize it. Also, it records the interest and donations that occurred in the year. These budget changes are carried out at the end of the year. In this way, the funds can be used in each department. This is because the budget is assigned to the security account. Therefore, the funds are secured early this year and can be used immediately. We carried out budget changes for county capital project funds, school capital project funds, small-scale project funds, security project funds, and police fund funds.

Do you have any questions? I agree. Then, I will move on to the 4.19 1-cent shortage policy.

As you all know, 1-cent coin production has been suspended in the US. Therefore, it is suggested that 1-cent coin shortage processing policy will be introduced to maintain consistency in all departments. According to this policy, when you buy or pay with cash, if the amount is 1, 2, 3, or 4 cents short, it is halved to 0, and if it is 5 cents, 6 cents, 7 cents, 8 cents, or 9 cents short, it is halved to 5 cents. In this way, citizens do not suffer losses. Assuming that all of the 2025 fiscal year's cash payments are 4 cents short, the loss of the county would be about $300. Therefore, I think this policy is the most reasonable way for citizens. Do you have any questions? Yes, I agree. Thank you for not reflecting. Thank you very much.

And this case will be dealt with as a new case at the meeting on June 15th.

As you can see in the data, the next step is to improve the production process of fat cells. This is a bill that approves the issuance of bonds for each resident's vote that will be issued in November. This bill includes three resolutions that all of you must approve at the meeting on June 15th, and will be processed separately. One is a resolution related to the resident's vote of $340 million, the other is a resolution related to the resident's vote of $60 million, and the last one is a resolution of compensation. This resolution is to be compensated if there is a amount spent before the issuance of bonds. At the meeting on June 15, all citizens will also attend on July 21 and hold a council meeting to discuss the local government. I would like to request the official official to announce the announcement of the council meeting and the issuance of the bond. Also, there are two statements. One is a statement about the debt, and the other is a public statement that I, the debtor, will sign and receive confirmation. And on the 15th, we will submit it to Seok-hee so that everyone can see it. So I'm going to submit these documents as a case. It would be better to deal with it on the 15th.

The 15th. Yes, yes, yes. Not tonight.

All right.

Do you have any questions? No. All right. I have one. Mr. Patrick.

We know that we are still in a vague position of up to 340. When are you going to confirm that number? Yes, I'm going to confirm it. The 15th is that day. Yes, it's the 15th. All right. So if you want a lower number, you have to do it then. You have to be ready to discuss it then or before. That's right. All right.

Do you have any questions? Good. Then I will approve this case. Yes, I see. Thank you.

Thank you. Then let's talk about the 4.21 fire area change with Jacob Thompson. Hello, you may remember, but last year, two real estate was excluded from Canapa Police City, and technical changes had to be made. This year, the same situation. In addition to the state, bill 214 was passed, and two real estate in Canapa Police Bar Road 3004 and 3110 were excluded from the city. We have notified the owners of the property about the measures we have taken as a return letter. However, even if it is excluded from the city, if you want to continue to provide fire services for the property, you must be transferred to the rural fire area. If you look at the documents and map included in the case, you can see that the two fields are transferred to the 10-cent ratio of the Canapa Police rural fire area. At the regular meeting on June 15, we will hold a public hearing on this according to the general law. And then you can vote whether to adopt or reject the request to adopt the changes. If you have any questions, please let me know anytime. Members, do you have any questions? Yes.

Good.

Should we deal with it as a consent? Or should we have a public hearing? We have to have a public hearing.

Ah, yes. We have to have a public hearing. Yes. Good. Then, we will deal with it as a consent and discuss 4.2 JCP. Hello, members of the committee. Hello. We will show you the financial support plan for the county in 2026-2027, which was approved by the Senate through a vote. This plan is to select a program to support funds next year. In addition, we also have a year-round certification plan that shows that we are following the requirements of JCPC. If you have any questions about the budget, all funds are government funds, and we simply deliver funds. 질문 있으십니까? 동의합니다. 네, 감사합니다. 좋습니다. 4.23

Yes, Mr. Chairman, if you allow, we will approve this case.

We remember that last December, we dealt with the topic of Monday. The property used at school is repeatedly transferred between the school and the county. According to the law, the school must own the facility. However, when we borrow money, we are responsible for it, and we must provide the property as collateral. Therefore, the ownership is transferred back to us. There are a few real estate that are suitable for the current Board of Education. Mount Pleasant Middle School and Royal Oaks are included in the 2016 LOBS business that Mr. Han just mentioned. It is because the assets provided as collateral have been repatriated or reused and are now transferred to another school. Therefore, these two schools must be transferred to the Board of Education again. In the case of Weinhof Elementary School, the 2011 financial contract-related documents were approved in April of this year. Therefore, since this is approved, it can be transferred to the Board of Education again. Bessel Elementary School, Peet School Road Elementary School, Fred Wilson Elementary School, and Shady Brook Elementary School were provided by default for the LOBS recommendation program, but the program ended in February 2024. Therefore, the tax that was provided as collateral for all real estate should be transferred to the Board of Education again because it was repatriated or transferred to another school.

Members, do you have any questions for Doug? Yes. Is it okay to post this case in the consent form? Not yet. It's okay.

Yes, we can wait until the 15th. We do not require any action tonight. Okay. I wanted to check. Thank you. Yes. Then would you agree? Yes, thank you.

Good. And the 4.25 case. We will move on to the transparency of the annual and state budget impact.

Kenny, you can take charge of this case. All right.

Over the past month, we have met with many citizens and worked hard to prepare a resolution to ensure transparency. We have prepared two more cases after listening to one case included in the document and all your opinions. A few words have been modified in the version suggested by Chairman Pittman. I will collect the relevant parties and gather them in a meeting. I will deliver the document before putting it on the table at the regular meeting. Yes, but this case was postponed according to request. It was to have time to prepare the data for everyone. So, yes, I will post it as a new case so that anyone can make a suggestion. I will be able to vote in the next meeting. Yes, I see. Then, I'll take care of this case. so that the relevant parties can get a vote. We'll send you an email tonight. Yes. Thank you. All right.

Then, there is a discussion about the 4.10 fire brigade of Carver Lease County. I'm sorry. Jacob, if you don't mind, would you like to comment on any questions? Okay, then. Mr. Kenny Wattman. If you have any questions about the 410 unit, can I ask you a question? I don't have anything to ask.

Do you have any questions? I wanted to tell you about transparency. I have been discussing the removal of this part in the county since the 4th year since I became a member of the committee. We have reviewed various solutions to provide career development opportunities. We have also added a few tasks. At first, there was no promotion route at all. So we added a general manager. We added a senior firefighter and a firefighter's seat to the existing fire chief and fire department to create a salary system. Yes, it was to provide a path to promotion if you get a license. It was always a problem that there were no actual firefighters. Yes, it was always a problem. There was a lot of change in personnel. I'm a firefighter, and I want to take a fire truck, but I'm on a pickup truck. Yes, that was always a problem. We discussed moving to Allen Fire Station, but it didn't work out. I went to Mount Pleasant Fire Station, and it changed to be divided into Midland and Mount Pleasant. I think the plan is always changing. So in my opinion, as long as the county does not completely give up control, if we move it to another fire station, there will be no conflict as to where to take charge. I've been working at the fire station for a long time, so I know how hard it is to get that certification. I have a lot of certificates that I can't get even if I change jobs twice. I have everything from the gold structure to the copper structure, the sealing space structure, to the risk management. I know how hard firefighters work. I've been living like that for 24 hours and 48 hours. I know that they miss their holidays, birthdays, wedding anniversaries, etc. Um, I know that they miss anything. Uh, I also know that lack of personnel has always been a problem. Um, so personally, When I had my first meeting three and a half years ago, I was ready to end the organization at that time. And as I told you, I said, let's take some time and solve it somehow. Um, I've always been divided. At the fire department meeting, I know that he wanted to maintain the organization. Uh, in my personal situation, um... Everyone asked, the e-mail was burst, and I even got a text message from people I know personally. Yes, I'm planning to submit a proposal to disband the organization at the next meeting. This is the most transparent thing I can do. The 410th Rescue Team was created to support firefighters who are having difficulty moving. There were firefighters who missed the request for departure, and there were many problems. From what I've seen, this is not a supplementary resource placement. While I was here, every year, the fire department has been asking for firemen to be recruited for radio and human resources. We've recruited firefighters every year. I don't think it's the end. I understand. When I was a full-time worker, I worked at six different fire stations. At that time, I received $10 to $12 per hour. I know the times have changed. But someday there has to be a limit. Instead of adding more firefighters, I think they're just continuing to increase their salaries and maintaining their workforce. Um, I think it would be better for the resource firefighters to come in person and request a fireman's impression of their area. You'll be able to get up to 15 cents. Um, Jacob. I know you're in a very difficult situation with this, and I want to admit it publicly. Jason. I know it's uncomfortable for you, too. It's a hard job. Um, we've been discussing this issue for a few months. Um, and. It was a secret, so I kept it a secret. Yes, we sat down and tried to find the most fair way. Yes, and we decided that the most fair way was to announce it five months in advance. I thought it was the most fair way for us to give enough time for 5 months rather than suddenly stopping at the beginning of the year. I wanted to give everyone a good opportunity to say that it will be changed in 5 months. We are reviewing whether we can cooperate with other regional government agencies currently in service to have a positive impact on the newly created process. And the plan is that if there is a lack of personnel, I think that's a fair measure. This problem is distorted and reported as if the fire department was shut down and the number of firefighters was reduced, but in fact it is not. Our budget has been in balance since the decision was made. It's not because of the budget problem, it's because we've decided that the tasks will be repeated. I received an e-mail with the NFPA standard, and they said they didn't know what the NFPA standard was at all. But I know 100% what the standard is. Well, there are many standards that no one can meet among the NFPA standards. Half of the fire stations in 1719 do not even meet that standard. As mentioned in the e-mail, the 1720 area is a standard related to the resource fire station. Also, the size of the personnel required depends on the density of the area. So we received such an email, and according to NFPA standards, there are all kinds of detailed standards such as beard regulations, wearable clothes, breathing time, etc. However, in my personal opinion, this action is because of the overlapping part and the fact that our firefighters have gathered their forces. Except for the Mount Mitchell Fire Station, the Mount Mitchell Fire Station has nowhere to stay at night, so it couldn't support the people. All the fire stations have supported the people. The number of volunteers has decreased for a long time. This has nothing to do with the fact that there are no people who want volunteers. Personally, I think it has something to do with the fact that current office workers are not allowed to work for volunteer work. Volunteer volunteers are not paid. These days, most of them work part-time or part-time, but people have to work for a living, and they can't take a vacation at work because they're asked to leave. So I'm grateful for all the volunteers who have done everything for me. I've been working for almost four years, trying to find what we can do. Personally, this is my position. Is there anything else you want to add? This decision was not easy for us. I think I could have come out of here by 11.45 p.m. I thought about what to do during the unannounced meeting for a few hours and what the most fair way would be. We don't all enjoy this kind of thing, but I think this is the right thing to do. Yes, please leave a comment as you want. What I wanted to tell you from the time we first met was that I had never heard of 410 before I joined the county council. But while I was at the committee, we talked about a lot of things, and I couldn't agree to any plan to get rid of 410. I worked as a volunteer firefighter in Union County for four years. If it had been longer, I would have worked longer, but I had to leave there and come to MacKinnon-Jangno Church as a pastor in Concord, and I had to quit the fire department. There was nowhere to go here. So I don't have as much professional knowledge as Kenny, but I know a little bit about life as a firefighter. I was a volunteer firefighter and I didn't get any compensation. You might say, this is unfair, but I don't know if it was unfair for me to have paid for a volunteer firefighter's retirement pension for four years. And I'm not going to get that money because I don't have enough time to work. Whether you think it's fair or not, that's the reality. I want to be fair because I understand what people do and what difficulties they go through. I've had that experience, too. However, when I heard that not only the county council, but also the firefighters at the site claimed that the system should be eliminated, I finally reached the conclusion that it was an efficient use problem of resources and public funds. There is no efficient use of this system. So I think we need to get rid of this system, but as Kenny said, we're going to do our best to help them find another job. We're already doing that, and I hope everyone gets a good result. But in the end, we have to take responsibility for how the county uses taxpayers' funds. I think that's the key. It's not efficient. We need to find a more efficient way. So I'm going to support this case.

Mr. Jones, do you have anything to add? Mr. Patrick, do you have anything to add? I'm in the middle of a case right now.

Then we'll have time to discuss, listen to more opinions, and receive emails. Yes, that's right. And we'll get additional opinions and public comments. Yes, we'll be able to deal with this part. Yes, I understand. Thank you.

There are a few things I want to add. Yes, I didn't know about the 410th rescue team until I joined the committee. Yes, apart from all this, I had the opportunity to meet a few people at the Allen Fire Station. I respect you all and thank you for everything you do. I hope it will be an efficient county for taxpayers. I think taxpayers deserve it. I also saw the comments on social media. 16 firefighters are being fired in the news. There was a story that the residents' houses would be on fire. That's not true at all. There are no firefighters, no pumps, no fire stations. We attended the committee meeting to hear the opinions of other commanders. Everyone agreed to maintain 419 fire stations. However, there was one condition, and it was to submit the plan to the county councilors so that the fire chief and the commanders could negotiate to maintain 419 fire stations. As Mr. Waterman said, it was originally needed to build the second fire station in Allen Fire Station for $ 1 million, but in the end, It was decided to put all the firefighters in Mount Pleasant. To be honest, I agree with and disagree with all the opinions in the room. How will it be operated? Will there be too few people? What will happen if Mount Pleasant builds the second fire station on Walker Road? How much budget will it take to build a space where 419 rescue teams will be together? And will it be efficient to distribute rescue members to various fire stations? There was a lot of discussion about whether it would be a problem. I've heard a lot about the NFPA standard, but as far as I know, there seems to be no place that meets the NFPA standard. It is a standard that 16 to 18 firefighters should take action at a fire site, but there is no place that actually meets that standard. Currently, we are operating in a mutual support method, and this mutual support system will not disappear in the future. That's the way we used to do it. From what I've seen, firefighters are people with true brotherhood. You became a firefighter because you wanted to protect the citizens and turn off the lights. That's what you want to do. We are grateful for that and support you all. We discussed for hours to respect each and every one of you. It's because no one wants to lose their job. We were able to provide full-time employees with a five-month retirement allowance. The full-time employees work according to their needs, so of course they can't get a retirement allowance. Also, I can't imagine a better way to hear this news at the board meeting, so instead of the board meeting, we have a place to talk to Kelly and the staff in charge of the HR department individually. It's because I respect you as an important employee of the county. It's never easy to make a decision. No, it's not a budget decision, but it's a efficiency decision. If the taxpayer's tax is not used efficiently, it's not over just because it's not used for the year's budget. We still have to use the taxpayer's tax efficiently. We have to keep doing that. I'm not trying to belittle the people who work there. However, In my opinion, I wonder how the problem has been handled in the past few years. As a firefighter, when considering the time spent to solve the problems with the questions we raised, do you think there would have been a measure that would have been helpful in making better decisions in terms of management? 그리고 데이터나 정보 같은 것들에 관해서 말씀드리자면, 저희가 어떻게 하면 이 문제를 해결할 수 있을지 간절히 바라고 있어서 여쭤보는 겁니다. 이제 제 답변을 기다리시겠죠? 네. 우선, 저기 앉아계신 분들의 의견을 대변할 수는 없겠지만, 제가 드릴 말씀은 많습니다.

I've been working at the Cavaliers County Fire Department for five years, and I've never asked anyone in the county council to tell me what the data is. I've never asked anyone in the county council to tell me what the data is. No one asked me what I was doing to increase the employee retention rate, and no one investigated that part. No one came to me and talked about it. They only listened to the opinions of other people. I tell everyone in the local community. I will tell you with respect. I won't get angry. I respect your position. Really. But it's really frustrating. As the fire chief of this county, one of my tasks, which is stated in the clause adopted by our committee, is to consult the committee on county fire management. There is only one person in charge of that in this county, and it is this person right here. I 100% agree with the low-firing vehicle and its efficiency. However, the reason why the demand has been repeatedly raised over the past five years is that there is a way to use taxpayers' money more efficiently. There are opinions that say, let's invest in building a fire station. There is a way to use taxpayers' money more efficiently. Every time we make a suggestion, we are opposed to all kinds of opinions that do not even ask us to refute them. No one has ever asked us for truth, data, or honesty. From what I've heard, there was no one who asked me, would you tell me what you think? But over the past few years, and all the requests and demands you've made tonight, it was an effort to use and improve taxpayers' taxes more efficiently and provide better services to taxpayers. I will not give the opposite opinion about the duplication. It means until the time when sufficient personnel are placed in all fire stations in this county and additional 5 people can be dispatched from one company to another per day through volunteer support. I'm sorry, but I respectfully oppose your opinion. I understand your opinion, but I respectfully oppose that part. The entire county and I are not here to criticize the fire station. Fire stations are also having a hard time like everyone else. Citizens have two options. Go out and volunteer or open your wallet and pay taxes. I will support all the fire stations that request a tax return, and I will confirm this statement. I support the fire department, but I also know that the number of volunteers is decreasing, not only in the county, but also in the entire state. As you said, the fire department is trying to support the workforce due to the decrease in volunteers, A significant part of the budget is used to employ people who will fill the vacancies because the competition is invested in a fierce employment market. Currently, there are 14 firefighters working 24 hours a day in the county. Each fire station has an additional weekly and night working capacity, but as you said, if an emergency occurs, 18 people cannot handle it. It is necessary to have an average of 3 squadrons to rescue a fallen firefighter. In other words, a total of 12 people are needed. It is not included in course connection, ventilation, field command, safety, and forced entry. Let's say a request for departure comes in in the middle of the night. It will be insufficient to put all the emergency forces in all the fire stations in the area. But why do we need to eliminate additional forces that can be put in in this situation? In my opinion, this is not an addition, but an addition to the necessary personnel. Of course, I understand the position of the officials. However, I also know that many people have various opinions. This program has had a negative perception from the beginning. However, in a situation where we had a more negative view of this program, we came to a situation where we had a meeting with all the fire stations in the region for the first time a month before the start of the program and said that they needed it. But now we are about to decide to cancel the program. It's really a shame. When considering data, evidence, and the current situation, it doesn't make sense to fire these people. Is there a better way to use them? Yes, there is. But is there a way for everyone to agree? No. That won't happen. But our county, and I repeat, no one asked Jacob's opinion. As the only member of my office to advise the council on fire prevention in this county, no one has ever asked my personal opinion or come to my office to show my computer and data and show you the data that is the basis of our decisions and suggestions. Just one person. So?

I have to tell you here for a moment. There was a meeting about the 410th Fire Brigade in 2025, and you came and gave your opinion. Other firefighters came and presented their opinions. Therefore, your claim that we have never discussed this issue is not an honest answer. We have discussed this issue. Since I came here, at least as far as I know, it has been discussed. I'm not a firefighter, so I asked a lot of questions to better understand the procedure. Yes, that's why we wanted to have a meeting with everyone about the 410th Fire Brigade. To be honest, this is the first time everyone has gathered in one place. No one has ever wanted to touch the problem. Because of this weekend's press release, no one wanted to deal with the problem regardless of whether it was successful or not. The members of the committee did not want to touch this problem, but when it is reported in the media, it can spread distorted information that is completely different from what we think about firefighters. Now we are trying to make difficult decisions at the committee, and of course we understand that it is not easy. But we asked a question. I also had a meeting and asked questions to the existing managers, the chairman, and other firefighters. I fully understand what Ken said.

On May 7, 2008, at the May Day, I was one of the two firefighters who were innocent at the Solesberry Middlework fire site. He was one of the firefighters who rescued Justin Merlot. I rescued Justin. He was my friend. I know 100% how hard it is to rescue firefighters in the May Day situation. My question is from the fire department. Do you have the authority to change the fire department automatically to add a firefighter to the first mission? Yes, there is. If the fire department needs a fire department, you can't change it. That's right. If you don't want to hear the story, or if you want to hear it, Yes, I can do what I want when I give a command to the fire department. You can add as many firefighters as you need for the first mission and provide the standards. The fire department has such authority. And I paid for the fire research cost twice in 2018. I paid twice as much for the same fire research. According to the research results, I'm telling you to get rid of all the firefighters, hand them over to the local government, pay only 15 cents, and never come to us again. But I don't want to go that way. I don't want firefighters from local governments like Mount Pleasant, Midland, Harrisburg, Canberra, and Concord to cross the border. I understand Mr. Jacob's position. I respect your opinion and I believe you will stand up and speak. And the fire research was written by several experts, including the fire chief, the fire department, and the retired fire chief of Greensboro City. The study contains many suggestions that all members can review. One of the proposals was to include a model case in the program to supply firefighters in North Carolina. Even if all firefighters are placed overnight and not a single volunteer comes, it is still not enough. So we only have three firefighters in one car, and if we want to run it properly, we have to burn five, sometimes six people. In order to do that, we have to pay taxes to cover human rights costs. In other words, it means that you must pay the human rights fee, not the money that comes naturally. And the committee is trying to lower taxes as much as possible. Lastly, I would like to say one more thing. It is true that all the fire department managers agreed to maintain 419 fire stations in the meeting, When discussing how to place the members in the fire truck, they were strongly opposed to the fire department like Mada. Because it looks like the county is making its own fire department and trying to get rid of the members. So we've heard both sides of the story from the same people. And there was a study that showed the cost of establishing a fire department that covered the entire county. It's going to cost a lot more than we want. I know. It's a lot of money. I think it was about $30 million to $40 million, but maybe it's $20 million. It's a really big amount. Yes, I respect you. And Jason, I respect you for supporting him. But my decision has already been made, and I will listen to your opinions and emails. But I'm going to take my stand now, and I'm going to do that in the future. Yes, but you're right. If a May Day situation occurs in this county, whether there are 419 units or not, they don't have enough people to go. I've been through it myself, so I know it well. Yes, resources will be exhausted very quickly. In my opinion, that word itself seems to break down the argument. There is no persuasion to make the situation worse when there is already lack of resources. That's what I'm telling you from my point of view. If you look at the emails we received, our employees have all the training certificates, the gold structure certificate, the Harris bug training certificate, and the security space structure certificate. There's a lot of time to get that certificate. Trust me, I have it. I'll be happy to show you at the next meeting. But where are the equipment? Are you going to be punished by someone else? Or are you just going to manipulate the equipment? The bigger problem in this county is the volunteers. To be honest, there is a fight between these volunteers and their pride. Every time we propose a solution, they are against it. So they have to live in this situation. It's because our fire department is distorting the solution. We don't intend to distort it. But what I mean is that you're distorting the word. But what I said doesn't mean that all the solutions we proposed are against it. Mr. Linzy also had a meeting, but where was the solution? We've already talked about that.

Would you like to tell us? We...

I proposed a fire truck, but it was rejected. I proposed Allen as a proposal, but everyone said they didn't want to spend a million dollars. So I was offered a proposal that would not cost at Mount Pleasant. So I proposed that proposal. But again, There was a problem with resources, and everyone was fighting over limited resources. We started to review whether it would be most helpful to improve the ISO if we divide the resources into two places. At the fire department meeting, everyone agreed that the direction was the best. I started to find out which position would be most suitable. However, in the long run, the same question always remains. If you divide the resources into two fireplaces, you will require resources elsewhere. Eventually, at some point, you have to make a decision. Whether to invest or to put an end to unnecessary arguments. We can say that this is all we can give, but we didn't do that. I hope everyone understands that all processes are according to the instructions of this society. It wasn't something anyone here tried. I tried, but I couldn't achieve my goal. So I definitely wanted to make an effort to put resources where necessary. At least that's what we figured, and there were always unexpected variables.

And to be clear about that, what we understood after the meeting with the police chief was that the conclusion of the budget workshop was to meet with the police chiefs to find a consensus, check the consensus, and move on to the next step. That's what I explained to the e-mail and Linzy. That's what I explained to the e-mail and Linzy. That's what I explained to the e-mail and Linzy. That's what I explained to the e-mail and Linzy. That's what I explained to the e-mail and Linzy. That's what I explained to the e-mail and Linzy. That's what I explained to the e-mail and Linzy. That's what I explained to the e-mail and Linzy. That's what I explained to the e-mail and Linzy. Why do we have to spend more time with our time and the time of the firefighters to organize all of that, get legal advice, and spend time to make an agreement? If you don't agree at the committee, that's it. So, after the meeting with the firefighters, I think there was a confusion about how to proceed. Do we have to submit the agreement to the committee again, or do we have to continue as the firefighters want? We understand that you want us to accept the agreement at the committee and decide where to move forward. I ordered the firefighters to report to the committee, and all the discussions...

It was done before we asked for additional work on all resource fire stations. I only attended two board meetings, so I wanted to make sure that at least three people agreed. We needed three people. We needed an agreement that the entire board, or at least a large number of board members, agreed to move in that direction.

Oh, I'll ask you a question first. I don't remember when I had a meeting with all the firefighters at Mount Pleasant. I think it was April 9th. I think it was early April, and I may have misunderstood, but I knew that after the meeting, the firefighters would gather and discuss what to say to us. I haven't heard about the meeting, and I haven't received any answers from them yet. So we asked for your help to get an agreement to hold a meeting with you.

Again, at least three directors should agree to move in that direction, but only two people attended the meeting.

I'm sorry if I didn't know, but I didn't hear the news that the meeting was open and I didn't get an answer to the meeting results, so I thought that many firefighters didn't want to talk about the problem. So the meeting didn't open. I may have been wrong, but I was impressed.

Yes, we did not hold a meeting. Because we need the consent of the board members to take action and move forward. We need at least three votes. So we told you what we heard, and we wanted to let you know that if more than three people agree, we will proceed in this direction. In my opinion, it seems that you were supposed to meet with firefighters and hold a committee meeting and report the results of the meeting to the board. So I asked the firefighter, not exactly, but when I got a call from someone, I asked you to hold a committee meeting, but I heard that there was no news until the 4th week. So I sent you an email explaining the situation. At that time, I heard that I had to make a decision first, but in my opinion, that was a dilemma. You guys announced that we would continue to operate the 410th rescue team, and after that, you wanted us to present a specific plan for how to operate it. However, the counterargument is, It was that we had to prepare funds without impacting the property tax. Other firefighters may have to impact the fire tax, but it is now the period of budget change, and the budget has already been changed. So I think that nothing has been discussed so far, which did not give us the necessary time to make decisions. I heard that he said he had to increase his budget to solve the problem at a fire station. But the story wasn't delivered to me directly, but I heard it through rumors like other people. As far as I know, no other fire station has mentioned that the budget should be increased for the sake of the population. If the fire station decided that the budget was needed, it was the fire station's decision. As I clearly said in the email I sent, our plan was to review the problem again and report it to you. I listened to the meeting recording file again last night. What I said at the meeting was right. I think you were on vacation, I'm sorry. But that night, Kenny spoke about the fire research, or the far-reaching member spoke about the fire research. He said he'd act in the next meeting. I'll tell you again. The purpose of the meeting was to get an agreement to move in the direction the firefighters wanted that night. So once again, I was put in an ambiguous situation, and I acted in the next meeting. I was going to proceed in a way that I might get an agreement then. If the agreement is made, then we can move on to the next step. The point is not to waste time. We have a lot to do. We don't want to waste time on things that the committee is not interested in. So that's the point. It was our intention, and I think it was clear to everyone that we would bring it back to you for the agreement. At that time, if firefighters do not already have a committee or a group, we will support the process as you said. Yes, that was all we intended from the beginning. We thought that the content was clearly conveyed, but if it wasn't, I would take responsibility. But as I said, I reviewed the meeting log again last night. I also have an email I sent, but I don't know how to explain it better. Jason, do you have anything to add? I'll say it again, but I respect your position. I know your pressure and your opinions. But as the fire chief, and as a person responsible for advising the committee on fire prevention in this area, I can't agree with you. I'd like to understand the last part of what you just said in more detail. It sounds like you decided not to make plans until you know where to go through the meeting. Is that right? And when was the meeting? To tell you the overall process, we announced to you about the joint placement with Mount Pleasant at the budget workshop. At that time, we discussed the proposal of meeting the firefighters again and received instructions to let you know the results. It was to report to you the opinions of the firefighters, that is, the opinion of the opposition or the proposal. We had that meeting in April. It was the meeting of the next regular fire department where all the firefighters gathered, and the meeting was held on April 9 after the budget workshop. At the meeting, all the firefighters in the county, except for the local government, who are not on the fire brigade, kept the fire brigade and threw praise votes in two places to provide better services to the county residents. As we explained at the meeting, our intention was to report the contents to you again at the next meeting and deliver the results of the fire department meeting and the statement of the chief. When we reported the contents to you, Director Linzi did not attend. Director Workman said he wanted to reserve the case for further discussion at the time. At that time, our intention was to come to an agreement based on the opinion of the fire chief that night. If the agreement is made that night, the next day, in fact, I have already prepared the email and the meeting date and time. The EMS headquarters was scheduled to hold a meeting and all preparations were completed. If you agree with what the fire chiefs suggested, we decided to hold a meeting. But I think that's where the problem came from. So, That was our intention and purpose, and so was you. Have you ever contacted the board members after the announcement to see if they would implement the plan? We have communicated with most of the councilors and county managers. All conversations were made with her, and as I said, we were waiting for the decision of the board of directors. Because the Workmen Committee said they wanted to discuss more later that night. So the plan has been revised, and we are currently waiting for the board of directors' agreement, whether to move forward or not. Yes, there is something I want to do clearly. May I ask one more question? Our budget workshop was in February, what happened in March? Did you not go directly to each fire station and listen to their opinions? Do you remember saying that fire station managers may have different opinions at the same time? We learned that it is most effective for all officials to gather in one place to talk and share the same thoughts. Everyone receives the same information and discusses the same thing. If you go to another fire station and talk, interpretation can dominate everything. Perception is everything. I can accept what I say differently. But if all the officials gather in one place and have a conversation at the same time, everyone can deliver the same message. The meeting of the Fire Department in April will be held by quarter. January, April, July, and October. The April meeting was a meeting of the Executive Fire Department, where all firefighters gathered to discuss. Budget workshop and The next fire department meeting was scheduled for early April, so we didn't feel the need to hold a special meeting just for that one purpose. We had already held a special meeting in August. We didn't want to make things more complicated. The next month's meeting was scheduled, and we decided to discuss it then.

If I were to clarify what I was going to say at the April 9th meeting, I think the firefighters gathered to find a consensus and let us know. But if you look at what the chairman said a little while ago, I don't think he would have held a meeting until he told us what to decide. I hoped that the meeting would be held and the problem would be solved. However, I was not contacted about such a meeting at all, and the time was wasted, and the budget was tight, so I had to take some action. Before we wait for the decision to be made, I would have liked it if firefighters would gather and present a proposal. It went as I expected. We generally There is no right to proceed without an agreement with the board. Of course, we were in the process of collecting information, and we almost confirmed the location of the two places, and we were going to cooperate with the ISO to confirm two more places. Based on the information about the work carried out at the ISO, we thought we had some outline, but I repeat, we need an agreement. You wouldn't want us to publicly promote what you didn't approve. Yes.

And I wasn't trying to persuade you, but all the officials participated in the responsible meeting, and we wanted an answer on how to implement it. Based on the conversations I heard, I saw that you were talking about the composition of the committee with Mr. Colley, not only during the meeting but also after the meeting. We were trying to figure out how to successfully carry out the work, what we needed, and whether we needed to submit the information to the board to request for a budget. But it turned out that in order to carry out the work, we would have to deposit at least 0.5 cents. What I want to say is that in order to make the necessary decisions, you do not need to collect information yourself and give the authority to get an answer. We did not decide to continue operating the 410th rescue unit. Rather, you have to collect information yourself and give the authority to find out how the process will proceed if you do so. What we need to know is that the information must be presented to us, so that we can know how much it costs and whether it can be implemented among firefighters. Also, we need to know whether this is a fair transaction within the county. Because, fundamentally, we have a service team in our county, but if it is not used in all places, no one feels that they are not being fair. We have already witnessed such a situation. You get this, that person gets that, and you don't use this, but we can use it. It's an unfair situation. So what I understand from the meeting is that you can plan and submit it to the committee, and we can decide whether we can handle it financially or you can burden it. Yes, I think I should take responsibility for that. I told them that I had to let you know what two broadcasting stations I would choose for them. So I think I have to take responsibility. If anyone wants the recording file of the meeting, I will gladly send it to you.

It's downloaded on my computer, so I can send it to you right now. Someone keeps opening the meeting log by mistake, so it takes 4 hours, but 2 hours of it contains the meeting content. If I send it to you, you will be able to hear all the comments. Yes.

Again, what I understood from the meeting on April 9th was that when they came out after the meeting that night, they decided to proceed with their work, and we all agreed. I thought there was no need for additional approval other than the fact that we agreed that night. But I was waiting for the report in a situation where the meeting had not been held for so long. Yes, again, the reason I raised the problem at the meeting was to get approval to move forward,

to meet them and cooperate to decide which departments are needed. Also, it is known that there was a concern about the two proposals submitted previously, and there was also an opinion that it was important to draft an agreement on the case of the board before considering the third proposal. Therefore, we wanted to get your consent on how to move forward in the direction of investing time and money in the fire department. Please refer to the documents provided to you this evening. This is a report on the impact analysis of human resource reduction. In addition to the fire service, the 419th fire department is also analyzing other influences on disaster management and fire service departments. Please review the document for the next two weeks and take a look at the other influences of the personnel reduction in the relevant departments. Do you have any other questions?

No. All right. Thank you. Thank you all. Thank you for coming out and answering the question.

Yes. Thank you. All right.

I have to go back to the 2.1 case. I'm sorry. In order to prepare the budget for the fiscal year of 2027, we have to submit a consent form to the employees. Please agree.

If you agree, please say yes. Who are you against?

All right. It's a 5 vote. And we have to discuss the budget workshop scheduled for June 4th. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. and submit an agreement to approve the regular meeting on June 15th. Please agree. All right. Please say yes if you agree. Who is against?

Now, we will start the unannounced meeting. Please submit an agreement according to NCGS 143-318.1a. 3, 4, 5, 6. If you agree, please tell me. If you disagree, please tell me. All right. We'll start the unannounced meeting. Thank you for joining us tonight.