Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

used to at least till November after that. Okay. We'd like to welcome you to this Tilla City Planning Commission meeting here this Wednesday, March 11th, 2026 at the hour of 7 p.m. here in City Council Chambers. Uh first item on our agenda tonight is the Pledge of Allegiance. If you all please rise. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Next item on our agenda is our roll call. Commissioner Hammer here. Commissioner Sloan here. Commissioner Proctor here. Commissioner Cordova here. Commissioner Jensen here. Commissioner Anderson here. Commissioner Faircloth here.

And we'll please excuse commissioners uh Frank Lynford brain farted my please excuse councilman Hansen and Councilman Gosset sitting in for them. Welcome back Councilman McCall. Please recognize we got Chief Day here with us tonight. Miss Young, uh Miss England, Miss Mr. Agard, and Mr. Johnson joining us tonight. Uh number three on our agenda tonight is a recommendation on a proposed text amendment to Twilla City Code 7-9-2. This is a recreational vehicles and recreational vehicle parks regarding the accommodation of recreational vehicles and parking lots of nonprofit 501c3 organizations whose purpose is to assist persons who are unhoused. This one has been tabled from February 25th, 2026 planning commission minutes.

Mr. Yeah.

So, I don't have a whole lot to say before turning it over to Chief Day for his his comments, but just to remind the planning commission that this is the third meeting where we've discussed this. At the last meeting, you you tabled the meeting pending additional information. Uh Chief Day did make some edits to the the proposed ordinance and those edits were included in your in your packet. Uh the city attorney also made some edits and his were included in the packet as well with his edits being highlighted in blue. Uh at this point in time, we're we're ready for a recommendation one way or the other to get this moving on to city council. And hopefully these edits will address some of the concerns and questions the planning commission had. And I'll turn it over to Chief Dave if he has anything he'd like to add to that.

Thank you.

Thank you, commissioners. Uh there's a lot of colors in these changes and uh I like to point out the two weeks. this is up for two two weeks is it and uh Commissioner Lynford called me and we talked about it and he he has a great proposal of uh us adding a report whenever there's a RV um staying at the facility so we can monitor two weeks. We don't have to uh um drive by and hope we can get the two weeks. They just notify us. And I've talked to the staff there and they're more than willing to do that. They're more than willing to move it to the back. I did drive back there. There is a a parking lot to the north. That is the housing authority. The housing authority would let them have RVs there that's more out of the way. In good conscious, I can't recommend that. I didn't add that because I just I don't want them in the back. I want them up front where we can see them. My experience with those camping in RVs or in tents is stuff starts collecting when you're not seen. There's no cameras back there either. If an incident happens, the cameras in front will capture it. And uh so that there was no changes made to that. Our city attorney added

if we monitor these if we have a report too with the RVs, we can monitor the 6 months. they can't do it again for 6 months. Um, that's that's a good way to monitor that. And I don't see why we would why would we would keep doing that? We'd be on them pretty hard if they came back. Why why are we doing this again? Cuz most of these people want to move on. The ones living in the RVs from my experience if but they could have some reason. and there's only two recreational vehicles at any given time. So, if there's any questions you guys have past that, I think that's most of the changes we had from last meeting.

I didn't even think about that perspective. Out of sight, out of mind. Kind of make you a little nervous, right? And you guys going to be able to see it. Didn't hit me until I was driving back there and looking in the back and Yeah. hit me there. Perfect. Well, good. Let's bring this back to the commission for questions or comments for Chief Day. So, I do want to just clarify um we're looking at two spaces and not three. Correct. Okay. Yes, Commissioner SL.

Um I don't know if this is a question for you or for Mr. Johnson, but since it's in red, I'm gonna ask you. Um when last we met, the 501c3 reference had been taken out, and I see it is back. Is that on purpose or did I remember our last meeting wrong? I think we we kind of liked not having it there because it narrowed it narrowed it even further. I don't see that addition in the latest one I have.

Um the one I've got, we actually have two of the same page here. The one that has blue and the one that doesn't have blue. Um so it would be 7.9.1 is the page. Uh, it is 7.9.2-7. Yeah, -7. I'm wondering if uh that was the original one. When I did the packet, I included the original plus two the two amended versions. So, you may be seeing the original version that has the 501c3. The other two versions do not have it in there. And that's correct.

If that's confusing, I apologize. It's it's it's not now, but I was consume confused as to why we had the same page on there twice because it is on there twice, but one of them or three times, I should say. One of them does have the 51c3. So, as long as as long as that's not the official one, then I have less of a concern with it. I did I did see that one earlier, too, but it was specified, but even better, it doesn't matter. So, thank you. It's been taken out. Perfect. I think the one that between after attorney Mr. Johnson looked at it and added his thing into with what Chief Day got. I think we've finally got it.

Yeah. I appreciate all the work you guys did and Oh, and if it fits in with what you guys want out of the thing, I think that I'm good with that, I think. And it surprised me that the staff there, they they recommended shorter time frame they for that. And I did see some calls they had made to us when people were living in cars in the front there and they were having us remove them. So, we seem to be on the same page. And that was a concern that I had um knowing that this is an emergency shelter and not a transitional shelter time frame of what we would be looking at. So do

going back to the screening because I don't see where that's covered here. And if we're not going to have them in the back and we want them up front, do the neighbors across the street want to be looking at that across up front? So is that still an issue or or not? I think it is. Um, and then Commissioner Hammer brought up that a question regarding license and insured insurance on these RVs. Is are we not going to enforce that as well?

No, we're not going to enforce licensing and registration on private property. We did just change code. Well, we will enforce that on uh on public rideaways and school property and city property, but private we don't enforce that. It's a it's a very good question. Um when they do get going, are they uninsured? Are they unregistered? That's something to deal with when they leave. But, uh if they're repairing it, I don't we don't have a means to site them for that. So, I didn't want to enforce it. Screening may still be a problem, but I don't want them screened. If we're going to go forward with this, I prefer them not hidden, not screened. And if that that stops the recommendation, I'm I'm good with that, too.

I feel like we've cut it I've cut it down to two weeks. I think screening is probably a little bit less important in my mind because a couple weeks is not too long. Yeah. And then back to rodents, because if if they have pets, they're going to have food dishes out. Um, is that not going to be covered here or we're going to be okay with the accumulation of rodents or or the attraction of I should say?

I think it I think we can enforce that with uh with code if they let garbage or refuge, you know. Um Okay. Yeah, I've seen rodents in vehicles that are kept there for some time, but I'm hoping the two weeks would limit that also. Okay, great question. It's great discussion. I don't see that you've asked for a new recorder anywhere. Yeah. Yeah. I put that in my budget request. He's waiting for that next week.

I left with my head down. Perfect. Any other further questions, comments from the commission? All right. You ready for a motion, sir? I think we're ready. We'll entertain a motion on this item.

Chief, I appreciate all your work on this. I know it's certainly not a labor of love, but it's a labor of love for your community and so thank you for that. And also, thanks the housing authority and thanks for switch for for being so cooperative, too. So that said, I would move that we forward positive recommendation to the city council for recreational vehicles location and use amendment. The request by Tula City for the purpose of amending Tula City code 7-9-2 recreational vehicles and recreational vehicle parks to limit the use of recreational vehicles for temporary housing associate only. I'm taking that part out for temporary housing. We got a positive recommendation from Commissioner Sloan. Do I have a second? I'll second that. I got two,

Mr. Chairman. I want to make sure that it's clear. My motion does not include the last line of the the motion requiring nonprofit 510 C3 organizations. Perfect. Positive recommendation from Commissioner Commissioner Sloan removing the 5013C3 aspect of it. Are you still okay with that? Second, Commissioner Cordova? Yes, I am. Okay. Thank you. Uh any other discussion before we take this to a vote? Actually, are we going to require them to submit a report to to the police? Okay, we want to include that in thatation or give me some verbage or make a friendly amendment to the motion.

How often of how often a submission are we talking about? Every time somebody checks in anytime there's a new I would include that with my motion. Okay. And also to include on that motion that they must file the report with the is it with you guys yourselves and that'll be switch point filing the report. Yes. Okay. Yeah. And we could put the my most important item is getting the VIN of the RV into our system so we can show that it's been there for the six months besides the two weeks and uh they're willing to give that information to us. Perfect. And you're okay. So, are you good with that back there in charge of the minutes? Okay. We've confused you enough. She's dealt with me long enough. She should be used to it by now.

You guys have refined this. So, I want to thank you for uh making this a lot better than when I first started with it. So, I appreciate I appreciate all of it. Perfect. We all work together on this. Commissioner Cordova, you're you're good with that second still. Still good with that. Perfect. Okay, we'll take this item to a vote. Commissioner Hammer, I. Commissioner Sloan, hi. Commissioner Proctor, I. Commissioner Cordova, I. Commissioner Jensen, hi. Commissioner Anderson, hi.

I am Chairman Hamilton. I also vote I. That one passes seven to zero. Good job on that one. Nice work, guys. Uh this moves us on to number four on our agenda tonight. This is a public hearing and a decision. This is a conditional use permit request by Suzanne Jameson representing Borite Enterprise to authorize the use of automobile sales and rental to occur at the property located at 397 North Main Street in the GC General Commercial Zoning District on 26 acres. Miss Angling.

Yes, this is um on the southwest corner of Main Street and 400 North. Um it is the byite enterprise um that is planning on having the second location there. Their first location is um located right by city hall um where they've been for about 5 years now. Um this existing commercial property um it has been used for various commercial activities. The last one is an autoglass repair for repair sales and it's been vacant since then. Um the property is considered a legal non-conforming um property because it doesn't meet things such as setbacks, parking, landscaping drive approach, that type of thing. But Tila City code 73 allows it to continue to exist and operate as legal non-conforming. Um, as long as there aren't any changes to the structure or site. Um, the conditions of there are going to be a few conditions of approval and I'll go over those. The first would be sight lighting because there are even though it's surrounded by a general commercial zone, there are um residential neighbors right beside it. And so we want to just verify and make sure that any of the lighting stays on the property and does not shine on any of the neighboring residential properties. Um so that is one condition of approval that we as staff are recommending. The next one would be that um we make sure that anything like car detailing or car

washing or you know um any kind of auto repair would be something that is ancillary like just you know changing out light bulbs or just maybe an interior detail vacuuming out the vehicles that type of thing. um unless they get, you know, the the proper requirements for um water rights and that type of thing um for the increases in water use. Um so another condition of approval would be the property is not going to be considered for an auto repair shop or car wash at this time and that's not what we're approving. and in the future they would need to get all of those requirements met if they do add that to to the um use. Um and then the the third condition of approval that we'd like to recommend is that uh they keep the one accessible um wheelchair accessible stall that is existing on the site. So, it's just right off of Main Street and that they have a league step at the very minimum um three uh off or off streetet parking spaces for the customers that come there that are in a convenient area on the property. So, just here's another view side image of it. There's the bay doors where they would probably do some of the um auto detailing and and that type of thing. Um again, here's another view. Uh and so just um to go over the conditions of approval. All new site lighting installed on the building shall be cabinetry are be designed to direct the

light down and onto the site. The vehicle bays shall not be covered uh converted to vehicle wash bays without full approvals from the Tilla city and dedication of additional rider rights to satisfy the requirements of a car wash. And the applicant shall provide and maintain three designated customer parking stalls, including one accessible parking stall on the east side of the building in close proximity to the main building entrance. So, we'll bring this back to the commission for questions or comments for staff.

We got a public hearing. We'll let you guys up here in a minute. Commissioner Hammer's thinking. I'm okay. We'll give you a minute. Yeah. Thanks. Anybody else?

Perfect. We'll give you guys a minute. We'll come back to you. All right. This item does require a public hearing. Uh we will go ahead and open the public hearing now. If you go ahead and approach the podium, write your name for the record, state your name for the record. Uh my name is Lorine Mascarangius. I live um directly west of the building. Um so my question I have a couple of questions actually. Um, with the lighting, I understand they're supposed to be I read the thing and it's supposed to be facing to the property and then they're they can have some surrounding perimeter also facing towards the building. Um, will those be on timers because I have four bedrooms on that side of my house. So, that lighting is going to directly be affecting the bedrooms. Um, so I'm wondering if there are going to be timers on those lighting and how how how bright is that lighting going to be. Um, also the area around I've had issues with um the grassy areas. I don't know if they're going to continue to have that grass area. Um, is it going to be maintained as grass or is it going to be continued as weeds? I've had to always call the um the zoning commission to get them to not these guys but to get that cleaned up especially for the 4th of July because those weeds get tall that they just let it's dead. It's just dead. And then I I'm always concerned about the fireworks and everything because people light off fireworks aerials and everything. So that's my other concern is that area that grassy area there if

that's going to be maintained as grass or will they be taking the grass out and it will be part of their cleaning area for their vehicles or um I think that's I think that was just my two main concerns about the thing. Okay. Thank you, Miss Mascar. Thank you. Miss Masanus, will you sign the roster room up here? Thank you. I appreciate that.

May I approach? Absolutely. Come on up.

My name is Wanita Talis. I live at 391 North Main. So, right behind it. Um, since we have since our parking is so close next to the building and there's a bus stop right in front of it, that is my only worry about access with other people going in and coming out and parking right there. So, we don't have any accidents on hitting another vehicle or hitting a pedestrian. Um, those are my only worries. It just they've already asked me if they can use my parking and I my my driveway and I told them no because you know anyway that's that's all I have to say. That's my worries about what could and or can happen. That's all.

Thank you Miss Uh, my name is Kip Mner and I own the two uh houses just uh north on on 400. And I'm worried about all the parking. If there's no place to park in their lots, they're going to park on the streets front of our house. There's not enough room to even drive down there. We can't get out of our driveways. So, that's my biggest concern. Um, we went through this several years ago with uh Tetanaglass and they were limited to the number of cars they could put on the lot back in the day that they were there, which they, you know, they did do that. They allowed him 10 cars, I think, on the whole lot or eight cars. I can't remember. But I'm worried about the traffic. That's what I'm worried about. Can't even get out of our driveways certain hours of the day. So, I guess that's about it. I don't know.

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. What do you people feel about it? You'll hear here in a minute. You guys are the planners, huh? Mhm. Well, we're not the planners. We're just the planning commission.

Oh, yeah. The planner sitting behind you. Uh, hi. My name's Cameron Shemake. I live in the same house as Wanita Talis. Um, my only concerns would be the parking and the lighting. Um, the reason for the parking is because my grandfather's elderly and we and he has um therapists coming to the house on a on a daily basis to come help give him care and help him do his physical therapy and stuff. So, we need to have at least one space open, and we already have three cars there. And my next big concern is that um my grandpa's bedroom would face towards where they're going to have the main lighting. And so, we want to make sure that lighting isn't going into our rooms cuz that way we won't put cuz that way we can sleep. Other than that, that's all I'm really concerned about.

What was your last name? Sheck.

Thank you, Mr. Sheam. My name is Karen Mner and I live the same place as Kip and we have the two houses on the north side of 400 North. Um, I'd like to know about the hours of operation. Um, the days they're going to be open, how late, how early, um, and basically how many cars are they going to be allowed because if they're selling cars and there's not enough parking, they're going to be parking them on the street, which allows us not to be able to get out of our house. So, those are the couple questions I have.

Thank you, Miss Miner. Okay, seeing no one else approach, I'll go ahead and close the public hearing. We'll bring it back to the commission and staff. Um, I don't know how we want to answer some of those questions. Miss England, I'm not sure if the applicant is here or not tonight answer questions. Okay.

Yeah. if you want to uh I I can answer questions if you'd like. As many as you can, that'd be great. Sure. So, I know we we've required um down lighting and uh of course keeping it away from the uh the houses, of course. What other things could we require on that?

So, we could also do like a timer that they're only on during business hours or, you know, like a an hour after dark. so that they aren't on all night. There are other things that we can also do to mitigate the um intrusiveness of the lights, like we could soften it, like uh limiting the Celvin to like 3,000 or something along those lines, so it's more of a warmer light than a cool light. Um and it's not quite as bright. Um, so that would be more like we could say if you could put in lighting that meets more of the dark sky requirements. Um, we could we could add those those type of conditions to the approval. Um, as far as the safety concerns, I can see where they do have those concerns, but those are existing non-conforming with and our ordinance does allow this type of use, the commercial use to continue at this location. even with those non-conforming um situations there. The only thing I could say is require them to add signage maybe um uh to to tell them that they cannot block the neighboring uh driveways or you know something along those lines. Um and then as far as like any of the weeds are concerned, uh that would just be something that we would have to rely on code enforcement still. That's um because that is towards the back. That's not at the front of the building. We can't really like uh require them to to do landscaping and that type of thing there. some.

But having a tenant there will definitely help the I'm sorry. Having a tenant there will definitely help the Yeah, the upkeep of it. It would definitely and there would be somebody that could um easily fix it if there are any code enforcement requirements or issues. So on on your photos, you had a picture uh on 400 North looking in there like right here. No, from 400 North the last one you're at. I was just wondering if there was a fence but which you can't see from the

So there are there is some steel fencing but um it is not opaque. you know, there could be a a potential that you can require them to have opaque fencing rather than just the rod iron. Okay, that's what I was wondering if it was a view obscuring fence or

So, I did have um a couple of questions and I do appreciate um the question as far as the hours of operation because I was curious about that as well. And then just having an idea as far as foot traffic, do they expect to with this second location, is it going to be um providing the same services as the first location or is it how is that?

So I know that this is going or is going to serve as a car dealership only. Um, as far as their hours of operation, they did not they didn't um submit anything along those lines as far as I know. Um, what we could do is say, you know, limit it to an hour after dark or, you know, something or, you know, during only normal business hours or, you know, that type of thing. Um, uh, yeah, that one would be a little hard without the applicant here to to really get down to the bottom with.

Mr. Chair, I'm not sure and and staff can correct me if I'm wrong, that that stuff falls within the purview of what we can do on a conditional use permit. There have to be a reason to do I was just going to add that I recently bought a car from them and their hours were 8 to 6. So, pretty standard commercial hours and they're usually closed on Sundays. I'm I'm guessing from what I've seen, too. I've worked with them a little bit being in downtown. So, and they're easy to work with as well. So, they're they're great tenants that I've I've worked with them, but great questions.

And again, just another question in regards to kind of the past. What was the issue? Was what was the lighting situation when there was the other two? Yeah, I I was not here for that time period. I don't know if Andre might know or or somebody else that was on the commission. Is that something that we could ask one of the neighbors? Yeah, we can ask the neighbors commissioners. I would just add if if you look at this picture that's on the screen,

it is about 3 years old. It was taken from Google Streets, uh the only lighting on the site is the lighting that's on the building. There is no standalone lighting in the in the site itself. So, I would anticipate that the lighting was just strictly limited to the building into the site. And I can't remember, and maybe that answers my own question. Uh is that is that lighting directed away from the building or is it straight down? Then maybe the neighbors can help. It doesn't look like there's cabinetry on the lighting. No, so the the cabinetry part of the recommendation should cover a lot of that stuff. Yeah.

The dark sky requirements type of thing. Yeah. We want the light to absolutely onto the lot rather than into the neighbors bedroom windows like my neighbors does. Mr. Chairman, one more question.

It seems like, and this is going back, maybe only Commissioner Hammer might be the only one that remembers this, uh, directly to the east of this across Main Street, um, Bob Johnson's place. When we did that, one of the restrictions we did put in place to maybe solve some of the problems from a parking standpoint is we very, very clearly did not allow off or on street parking uh, in any way, shape, or form. Now, 400 North does not lend itself to that there. certainly on this side of the street, but people are what they are. But if we limit limit that parking to only onsite and I think considering there's an intersection right there at all. That's a good idea.

Great.

Yes, Commissioner. Go ahead. With the size of this lot and we're requiring essentially three parking spots, one being a an accessible spot. How many cars can fit on this lot reasonably? I'm not seeing it being like a really big lot. I'm gonna see. Um, oh gosh, that's that's a really hard one to to say. We But we could also limit the amount of um stalls that that are displaying cars for sale. Yeah. Well, I'm just wondering if this grassy or weedy area ends up being part of the lot and we're showcasing cars there, are we going to leave it weeds or are we going to ask for

that may kick in the non-conforming section of the ordinance where if they change all of that then they might have to bring the whole lot into compliance. So, I don't know if that's the direction they're going to want to go. So, just a point of clarification. Yes. Is that okay? So, at this point, they could not park on this landscaped part where there's dirt in where? Yeah. It would not be allowed for them to use that as additional parking area because it it was not developed for parking and it's not part of the non-conforming rights of the property.

Thank you. Um, one more question. Yes, Commissioner. So, the driveway approaches are quite large. Yes. And so I um do have questions about where all these for sale cars will be parked cuz it's three parking spots and a handicap spot. Is that correct? Or was it two and one? So it's one of the handicap parking spots and then two additional customer parking spots. But then I'm sorry, three more. Yeah. Okay. And they had them across the front. But I guess that's not the front. But that's So that's a driveway though.

Okay. So they don't have Oh, sorry. I just Do they not have to use the driveway as a driveway? They could put their cars for sale in front of a driveway. No, there's a sidewalk that goes across that city right away all along there. But can you go back one um photo? Yeah. So, right here. Oh, no. Right there. This one. Oh, sorry. Just stay where you were. Sorry. It was on Christmas tree, not there. So, that's that's a driveway over there. Well, it's a driveway approach, but you got a city sidewalk that goes all the way across. So, I'm just saying could they park cars in front of a driveway? So, like you could park I'm saying like right here.

Do you understand? Yeah. for for um for us to be able to approve it, they would have to be able to get in and out of the driveway safely or the parking lot safely. They wouldn't be able to block it or the sidewalks. They would not be able to be in the public rideway. Um so there would be some some restrictions on that. Um Chief Day's new record. Yeah. I just don't understand where all the cars will go. Like I'm just kind of confused. So just in the middle. Yep. I I'm I'm not gonna speak for the Yeah, that's where I would put them if it was me.

Yeah, I would put them over on the west side on the bigger parking area. But then there's Okay. So yeah, all we're required for parking is what's there, which is all that technic required. There's some here, right?

Okay. All right. Good questions. Good discussion. Any other questions or discussion? I think we've drilled down all of our uh issues that we see and try to mitigate those those problems as much as possible with of course the dark sky requirements. Um they're not allowed to park on a driveway. We've already figured that out. A parking signage would be a good one. No parking signs were where applicable. Anything else we can think of?

Is that no parking one mean um you can't block resident I mean on the residential parking you have to park on site only? Is that I would hope that's common sense not to block it. No, I'm going to make it very specific. I would make it very specific as well. It's common sense. It's not all that common anymore. We see it happen all the time. I mean we see it happen in Thank you. residential areas as well. So Mhm. Yeah. I think that's a great condition to put in there to mitigate that as well. And then the fencing um in the back if we wanted to. Did you close the public hearing by? Okay. Yes. It's all in us now. So, it's a lot of pressure. I got people I know out there.

All right. Any other uh findings of fact that we can mitigate? Well, Councilman McCall, go ahead. Yeah. Could I just add? Absolutely.

Since you guys can um basically put it as a conditional use, what about the the lighting ju just just for the sake of the lighting that's there? Um they may want to change it out because it is a car dealership and most car dealerships they're lit, you know, so you can see the cars. It's part of their business their business profile. But if I'm not mistaken, you could probably make a conditional that they put lighting next to that fence by that lady's house that's shining away from her house, but onto their property, the the dealership's property. That way, they could remove the lights on the side of the building that's shining in her direction. So, all the lights is pointing right at their property and nobody else's. I mean, I'm not saying they're going to do it, but you can suggest that they did

as a as a show of good faith because sitting here looking at it, I I figured they could probably get about 15 cars in that in that spot. No. Six, seven cars. Oh, good. Good. My I was looking and I'm getting old, but I can't see. And I think our our first condition on the lighting specifies both of those things already. So we should be okay. We want the lighting off the residence. That's for sure. Absolutely. I like it. You can't see it, but there's also a dumpster right there.

Okay. I hate to do this to you guys, but we've already had our public hearing and I've I've got a business meeting to run and I've got to do it up here. So, I'd appreciate it if you just let me do that. Thank you. We understand your concerns though. I promise you. We're we're trying to mitigate them as much as possible. Any other conditions we can think of? This might be a challenging one for all of us, but I think we can get through it. I'd like to yell at the planning commission that approved this the first time. All right. Any other further discussion, questions, comments?

From the commission. All right. I'll entertain a motion on this one. Mr. Chairman, I'm struggling with this one. I'm going to I'm going to make the motion. Um well, since I've got the mic, I can say what I want. Um but maybe for for the folks in the audience that need to understand kind of the position we're in. Um, conditional use permits are very, very narrowly focused in what we're allowed to deny. Um, we have to be able to uh site some concern that can't be mitigated, and I'm not sure I can do that here. I I've got a solution for all this stuff, unfortunately. Um, so I will go ahead and make the motion that uh we approve the conditional use permit request by Suzanne Jameson to authorize the use of automobile sales and rental to occur at the subject property application number 202612 based on the findings subject to the conditions listed in the staff report dated March 5th, 2026. And I want to emphasize condition number one as the staff recommended it. All new site lighting installed on the building shall use cabinetry or be designed to direct the light down and into the site. That all site lighting installed in the site away from the building in the perimeter shall be direct. It should be at the perimeter of the site and directed down and into the site and away from the local residences. That we also had a condition um prohibiting offsite parking that no parking will be allowed on any of the streets surrounding the site. Um, what am I missing? Commissioner that the that the landscaping be can't do much more than just the current city ordinances for landscaping, but

emphasizing that those areas need to be kept uh in conformance with city ordinance and that we limit the number of vehicles on the site to 10. I'm sorry, let me amend that. That's not customer cars, that's cars for sale to 10. Thank you. We want to add anything about signage. I don't know where we could put it that it would work. Um we we can put signs all day long. Uh but once they can get to them and read them, they're already there. So if you I'm perfectly happy to amend that motion if you've got a as you call it a common sense.

Um if they're parking in the neighbor's rideway, they need to call the police anyway. And that's in violation because we've already said no offsite. Yeah. No offsite limited to 10 for sale. I'll second your motion as you stated. Not going to try and repeat it. No.

Okay. So, we have a motion to approve with the following conditions added. Of course, a heavy heavy emphasis on the light pointing down and the light pollution uh keeping the light on the property and not towards the neighbors. Uh prohibit off-site parking. uh keep the landscaping maintained as per city code and then limit the cars on the site for sale to 10 vehicles. Did I get it all? We did. I'm sorry I wasn't paying enough attention. No off-site parking, right? No offsite parking. So, I was still trying to figure out a place to put your sign.

I know it's hard to do. Is there a way that we can address just to make sure that um outside of business hours that you know the lighting is going to be on a timer or how I don't think we have the ability Yeah. I don't know that we have the ability to do Yeah. to do that within the confines of the conditional use. Mhm. And again the staff if I'm wrong staff save me but by directing it down and in it should not be an issue. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Yeah. And a second from Commissioner Proctor with all of those extra conditions as well.

Yep. Perfect. Any discussion before we take this to a vote? We know this is a a good one. I like it. Makes us think tonight. Okay, we'll take this to a roll call vote. Commissioner Hammer, how do you vote? I. Commissioner Sloan. Hi. Commissioner Proctor. I. Commissioner Cordova. Hi. Commissioner Jensen. Hi. Commissioner Anderson.

I I am Chairman Hamilton. I also vote I. That one passes with the added conditions in there. And please, if there is somebody parking in your driveway, that's going to give Chief Day ammo to get his new record. So, call him. We will get them moved. Well, not we, but they will. All right. This moves us on to number five on our agenda tonight is our city council reports. Councilman McCall.

Uh, good evening again. Um the only thing that we uh went over the last meeting um which you thought yours was a doozy tonight. We had a doozy and that was a proposed amendment to 12 to 12 city code 7-4-7 parking limitations regarding front yard parking and residential zoning districts. And I won't dwell into that a lot, but um just to let you know, we had a a really really good discussion on that one

um because it basically boils down to um in a sense dictating what you can and cannot do in your yard in in the the broader sense. Um, and whether or not you can park in the front and how much you can park in the front, whether or not it needs to be paved or rocked and whether you can park in the back and how much of you can park in the back and when you whether or not you can park on the side. Um, it was an interesting conversation. So, you will be seeing that. Um, is it before it comes back to us, Andrew, or after? Next meeting.

Next meeting. Yeah, you'll be seeing it and I I may come in and stand out in the hallway just to hear you guys since the other two uh council members will be here and I can't legally come in the office in the building or the room. I'll just stand outside the door and

and listen to you guys discuss that one because Andrew can tell you it was a it was a duty and it is but unfortunately it is something that we have to address uh due to the fact that if you ride around town you'll see what was brought to the council. There's a lot of homes um where there are cars parked in the front and on the side and in the street. I mean, there's and Andrew could share it with you, but he's there's places where you have like eight, nine cars parked not literally on the grass um in in in yards and it's really bad for the neighbors. So, it's a problem and unfortunately that's part of our job is to try to rectify that problem.

So, you will get your hands on it as well. Looking forward to that one. It's been a problem for a while. I know a few properties. Yeah. And just speaking of this last one, for example, on street parking, Fourth North, there's no room for it, so there shouldn't be happening. It's not. It it's it's one of those things where a lot of people are moving back home and um because they can't afford to live on their own and they're bringing their toys and their cars with them and it's no place for them to work. Affordable housing. That's what it's boiling down to. Huh. Perfect. Thank you, Councilman McCall. Any questions for Councilman McCall?

Thank you, sir. Thank you for coming tonight. We appreciate it. That moves us on to number six on our agenda tonight. It's a review and decision our February 25th, 2026 planning commission meeting and meeting minutes. Are there any additions or corrections to those minutes? I move we approve them as presented. Got a motion to approve from Commissioner Proctor and a second from Commissioner Anderson. Any discussion before we take it to a vote? Commissioner Pro Hammer, how do you vote? I. Commissioner Sloan. Hi, Commissioner Proctor. Hi, Commissioner Cordova. Hi, Commissioner Jensen. Hi, Commissioner Anderson. Hi, I am Chairman Hamilton. I also vote I. Those minutes are passed. Moves us on to number seven. I'll entertain a motion.

Move to approve. I mean, they are adjourned. Thank you, Commissioner H.