City Council - Special Meeting

Bienvenue à tous à la réunion extraordinaire du conseil municipal du mardi 18 août. Appel nominal, s'il vous plaît. Monsieur Montgomery, le maire Gilman est ici. Le maire Prom Mang est ici. Le conseiller Roulet.

Ici, le conseiller Whitman.

Oui, et le conseiller Lang.

Je suis là. Le conseiller.

Langue participe à distance. Et le conseiller langue, pourriez-vous confirmer que vous êtes le seul adulte de plus de 18 ans dans la salle? Oui, c'est exact. D'accord. Et toutes les décisions du conseil municipal ce soir seront prises par appel nominal pour la participation par téléconférence. Merci. Et pourriez-vous nous guider dans le serment, s'il vous plaît? Bien sûr. Merci. Bienvenue. Bienvenue à tous. Prêt à commencer. I swear allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic that it represents. A nation under God, indivisible, freedom, justice for all. Including the approval of the order of the day. Mr. Montgomery, should we proceed to a nominal appeal for the approval of the order of the day? Yes, exactly. Are there any changes? My only proposal is that, in the list of numbers 1 and 2, we will break these orders. Okay. And no objection. So I propose that we approve the order of the day. Merci beaucoup. Appel nominal. Oui. Merci. Membre du conseil roule. Oui. Membre du conseil Whitman. Oui. Membre du conseil langue.

Oui.

Mère prom. Mère Gilles. Oui. Merci.

Merci pour le rôle.

Et j'ai une carte de commentaire public de clé quasi. Mayor and members of the municipal council. I am talking tonight about the question of the examination of the performance of the municipal director. I do not generally read my comments. But tonight, I'm just going to make sure I don't do anything wrong here. So please excuse me for the lack of emotion in my speech. On May 19, the Finance and Budget Commission examined the budget project for 2027. It included a calculation of the reserve ratio of the General Fund that was not in accordance with the way it had been carried out the previous year or the way the political resolution foresaw it. During this meeting, I emphasized this point and asked that the calculation be revised to be in accordance with the approved policy. Dans un courriel de suivi du 21 mai adressé au directeur financier Chaud, avec copie au directeur municipal Harvey, j'ai énuméré plusieurs modifications que je recommandais d'apporter au projet de budget, à commencer par une correction du calcul du ratio de réserve du fonds général. Monsieur Harvey a répondu à Madame Chaud concernant mon courriel, dont je vous fournis une copie aujourd'hui via Weston, afin que vous puissiez tirer vos propres conclusions. When the final budget was presented to the municipal council on June 23, it contained an erroneous calculation of the reserve ratio. I pointed it out in public comments during this meeting, firmly declaring that it was not appropriate to bring a unilateral change to a calculation that was specifically described in the resolution of the reserve policy of the General Fund of the municipal council. Surprisingly, Mr. Harvey pretended to ignore this problem. In response to the specific question of Councilor Rule on the change of calculation, he said, I can ask Brenda to help me on this point. I do not necessarily understand where Clay wants to come from, because we have not brought any change, no type of change or deliberate movement to my knowledge. It has always been based on, unless there is something that I forget. We have not brought any change. Miss Shaw, is there something that I am aware of and that I ignore or that I forget? After a fad response from Miss Shaw, Mr. Harvey concluded his comment by saying, we will meet him, we will listen to him and we will come back to you. Over the seven weeks that followed, Mr. Harvey did not meet me. So, in summary, he voluntarily changed the calculation unilaterally. He claimed in front of you that he did not know what I was talking about despite a clear video and evidence of the opposite. Il a jeté son directeur financier sous le bus. Et puis il n'a pas tenu sa promesse de me rencontrer. À mon avis, truquer les comptes et ne pas dire la vérité sont deux péchés. Mais demander à votre comptable de mentir pour vous lors d'une réunion publique est un péché mortel, car c'est ainsi que naissent les environnements de travail hostiles. Nous avions l'habitude d'avoir un dicton à mon travail qui disait « Si vous approuvez quelque chose, vous l'assumez ». Je vous conseille vivement de ne pas cautionner cela. Merci. Merci, Monsieur Cazet. Monsieur Stengel, vouliez-vous faire un commentaire public avant que nous passions à huis clos ? D'accord. Quelqu'un est-il en ligne ? Pas de main levée, Madame. Nous allons donc passer à huis clos. Merci à... All of us, we leave the session at 8 o'clock. City lawyer report on the session at 8 o'clock, please.

Very well. The report of the session at 8 o'clock on the evaluation of the performances of the municipal director indicates that the municipal council has charged the city lawyer to work with the director of human resources to prepare a contract with JMSD Strategies LLC for the evaluation of the performances at 360 degrees of the municipal director. And for the other 8-closed session on Ohio, we do not have any action yet to report, but we hope to do so soon. Thank you for that. So let's move on to the discussion. If the Council allows it, I would like to reverse the order of these two points so that we can have the information about the new communication round before the objectives and tactics, because we have people here. Any objections to that? Rachel, are you opposed to that? No, I agree.

Is it enough? We need a motion. Yeah, okay. Motion. Well, sorry. So, it was declared during the approval of the order of the day earlier. That's right. But I then change the 3 and 4. So it's an amendment to that. I had marked it, but we can always move on to the motion. Okay. Yes, understood. Pouvez-vous bien ou devrions-nous voter? Nous devrions voter. Nous avons un membre du conseil à distance. Nous devrions prendre chaque décision par appel nominal. Votons. Je vais donc proposer de modifier l'ordre des 3 et 4. Besoin d'une seconde, s'il vous plaît. Seconde. Merci. Appel nominal. Membre du conseil roule.

Oui. Membre du conseil langue. Oui.

Maire Prom May. Oui. Maire Gilman. Oui. Membre du conseil Whitman. Oui. Merci beaucoup. Nous allons donc passer au point numéro 4 en premier. Okay, Mayor, give us a moment. I'm going to ask Mr. Siebert to come. Yes. We are going to make a very brief report from the Director of Community Development with a few comments from the City Attorney, then we will give the floor to Chief Cliréry and his team. The Chief also has a presentation to do. So, Mr. Siebert, would you like to start tonight for us? Good evening, members of the council. My name is Lucas Iber, director of community development in the city of Ohio. The point we have in front of you tonight is information about the new proposed communication tower or construction in the fire station number 21 located at 1201 East Ohio Avenue. You have a lot of information in the personnel report as well as in some joint pieces. What I'm really going to do is just identify how. The city has known about it. And then, what is our usual process for these wireless installations? The zoning, height limitations, these types of times. Two pieces, just to put the table from the point of view of the discussion. And I think Bethany will talk a little about the legal aspects. And then we have Nick here to review the whole project. So, how did the city know about it? Vraiment, c'est un scénario assez intéressant. Lundi dernier, nous avons reçu un appel téléphonique d'un sous-traitant disant « Eh, nous voulons faire une inspection des fondations » et ils ont identifié l'adresse. Puis, j'ai immédiatement reçu du personnel qui est venu me voir en me disant « Qu'est-ce qui se passe ? » Cela a donc soulevé de nombreuses inquiétudes. Nous avons commencé à contacter les pompiers pour essayer de comprendre ce qui se passait. Generally, with wireless telecommunication installations, we need two different requests. One is a DRP or design examination permit, and the second is a conditional use permit. In this particular area, which is the space, there is no height limit, which means that you would need both a DRP and a CUP. The CUP would then govern the height of a wireless telecommunication installation if it was new and did not meet the competence of the county. This means that the height limit is not 60 feet or 80 feet. It is in a way determined by the examination of the planning commission as well as by this body. From the point of view of the examination and determination, the site is zone and place. So, a public, quasi-public land and I think that's about it for what is the implementation from the point of view of the use of land. I will let Bethany tell you about the legal aspects, because there are also interesting nuances. So, what must be noted in addition concerning this project, is that according to the Californian law, there is a principle according to which every time a public organization builds or builds a project, it is necessary for its operations and that it builds this project in the jurisdiction of another government organization. In this case, for example, the fire department of the county of Ventura builds a cell phone tower located in the city limits. Some exemptions apply to the local building code. So, instead of being subject to the authority of the city building code and the authorization process to build, they can be subject to the authorization process to build the county, but they are also exempt from the requirements of zoning of the city, other requirements of the general plan and other similar requirements. In this context, the county would only conform to its own zoning requirements for the project on the lands of the county, provided that these are the operations of the county. In this case, we checked if the project had met the requirements applicable to the KONTE process. When you examine the KONTE zoning code for cellular installations and communication towers, they actually include an exemption in their code for KONTE projects. They therefore met the KONTE requirements in terms of permits and zoning. They met the KONTE requirements in terms of building permits. So the city has no role to play in the regulation of this particular project, even if it is located in the city of Ohio. Which is a little different from what we would do if we had a private telecommunications provider. Merci, chef, voulez-vous ? Oh, pardon. Non, chef, venez et nous pouvons mettre votre PowerPoint en file d'attente si cela vous convient. Voyons si cela fonctionne. J'ai noté mes mots parce que je voulais juste m'assurer que tout soit bien enregistré. Je vais donc regarder en bas et en haut en même temps. Mais Nick Clary, chef de la division des pompiers du comté de Ventura. Je suis votre représentant des pompiers désignés par la ville. Good evening, mayor, members of the council, municipal staff and present members. Thank you for giving us the opportunity to provide you with some general and contextual information about the modernization of the radio tower of the fire station 21. I am accompanied by our deputy chief of fire Gary, our installation manager Dave Kirby and our computer manager John. They will be available to answer your questions after having examined the PowerPoint. First of all, I would like to highlight a point on which the fire service has failed. We have not provided the city with adequate preliminary communication regarding the calendar, the scope, the construction and the visual impact of this project. It was a failure on our part and I assume the responsibility to ensure that we improve this process in the future. Et je le prends honnêtement personnellement. Nous accordons de l'importance à notre relation avec la ville de l'Ohio. Un projet visant à améliorer la sécurité publique ne devrait pas susciter d'inquiétudes inutiles parce que nous n'avons pas réussi à communiquer correctement sur ce qui se passait et pourquoi. Il est également important d'expliquer pourquoi ce projet est nécessaire et comment il soutient les objectifs et les priorités de la ville. J'en ai noté cinq. Deux, trois d'entre eux, je pense, sont vraiment atteints. Puis cinq d'entre eux, je pense que nous les avons dépassés et que vous essayez d'améliorer. Objectif numéro deux, sécurité contre les incendies et atténuation des risques. Des communications fiables sont essentielles à la réponse aux incendies de forêt. Lors d'un incendie de forêt qui se développe rapidement, les pompiers, les forces de l'ordre, The distributors and our emergency agents depend on radio communications to coordinate evacuations, deploy resources, maintain responsibility and protect the community. The location of Ojai and its exposure to forest fires make emergency communications resilient particularly important. And this is objective number 2. Objective number 4, maintenance and improvement of infrastructure. Our existing radio system is nearing the end of its lifetime. Rather than waiting for the system to fail or become obsolete, the county of Ventura is actively investing in the necessary infrastructure to support the next generation of emergency communications. Objective number 5, public security. At the end of the day, this project concerns public security. When someone calls 911, the community expects emergency services to have reliable communication, capable of functioning not only normally during normal daily operations, but also in the event of forest fires, earthquakes, extreme weather conditions, major incidents and other emergencies where communication systems are most demanded. And then, the most important objective, objective number 9, communications and relations. It is a field in which the objectives of the city also emphasize that the service of fires has not met the standards that we expect from ourselves in the framework of this project. The city has also made progress in strengthening communications and community engagement, in particular by taking care of these events and these public information functions, by offering opportunities such as public assemblies for direct engagement with the community. We should have been better partners in this effort. La communication du district des pompiers concernant le projet de la caserne 21 n'a pas donné à la ville, à ses élus et à la communauté suffisamment de temps pour comprendre ce qui était en cours de construction, pourquoi c'était nécessaire, à quoi cela ressemblerait et comment cela soutenait le système de sécurité publique régionale plus large. Although the operational need of the tower remains important, we must know that the need for the project does not excuse the lack of communication. Good partnerships require communication before a project is visible to the community, and not after the questions and concerns arrive. In the future, I will take the responsibility to work more closely with the staff of our establishment and our partner organizations to ensure that projects that are likely to affect the city or its residents are communicated quickly. This implies providing clearer project descriptions and planned deadlines, potential impacts on the community, a sufficient time for city staff and elected officials to inform residents. La technologie continue d'évoluer et notre infrastructure de communication d'urgence doit évoluer avec elle. Remplacer un système vieillissant avant qu'il ne tombe en panne nous permet de rester proactifs, innovants et préparés plutôt que proactifs. La Tour de la Station 21 est l'un des éléments d'un vaste investissement régional visant à améliorer la fiabilité, l'interopérabilité et la résilience des agences qui desservent OHAI et les communautés environnantes. Ce projet nous permet de tirer deux leçons. Premièrement, nous avons besoin d'infrastructures modernes et fiables pour protéger nos pompiers, nos intervenants d'urgence et le public. Et c'est la plus importante. Secondly, we need a solid communication and relationship with the communities we serve. One must never be done to the detriment of the other. We can build the right infrastructure while doing a better job of communication on the reasons for which it is necessary, what the community must expect and how it contributes to its security. We appreciate the partnership of the city. We recognize that our communication has been insufficient and we are committed to doing better in the future. Thank you, boss. So, on this, I will try to use this trick and not point anyone's finger. But, basically, Ce n'est qu'une courte diapositive. Je vais faire venir nos experts en matière sociale, mais nous allons parler de l'infrastructure de communication mise en place dans tout le comté et nous vous donnerons quelques photos de la tour actuelle et de l'une des tours que nous avons récemment construites. Merci. Good evening and good evening. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to speak. I have a few notes on my phone that I can refer to. So, if I look down, that's what I'm doing. As the boss said, this project is really an infrastructure. There is really no new technology or telecommunications on this part of the project. We replace a useful end-of-life tower with a standard industry tower. This will allow us to improve reliability and to better perceive signals, and this will give us flexibility for the implementation of future technologies as and as they are available, and this could take decades, but not necessarily for soon. We currently have none. Project to add new technologies. This project will move the existing antennas that are on the roof tower towards the new tower. Our main objective is to take charge of the alerts of the data communication station. Thus, when we are in a hurry, we are quickly alerted and we receive the complete alert without interruption. Et puis, bien sûr, le réseau pour le réseau informatique de la station, je serai disponible pour répondre à vos questions si nécessaire.

Merci. Oui. Qu'est-ce qu'une réception de signal d'alerte à deux tons ? Qu'est-ce que c'est ? C'est l'alerte.

Sonore, dans cette station spécifique, c'est notre alerte de secours. So, when we receive a call in the area and the firefighters are in a hurry, it is currently done by IP, on a network, a data network. It's a lot faster, a lot, a lot faster. The backup and the old operating method was radio communication, which consisted of tones, sounds, then vocal commands. So, it takes a little more time to alert in two tones, but it is extremely important that we have that. Thank you. I appreciate it. Thank you. Then, we have two other slides that I will ask Dave Kirby to talk about. This is the 21st barracks now. Here is what the tower on the roof looks like. And then we have another slide, but it's the 57th barracks in Zomasus. This tower was built recently. And this is what the new tower looked like. It is located next to Lewis Road. E, thank you for inviting me today. I appreciate this opportunity. E, my role in the fire service is that of the installation manager. My group is therefore responsible for the design, permits, construction, then communication with our IT group, in order to ensure that we meet their needs in terms of communication networks. I would therefore like to echo the statement of Chief Cleary, namely that we have not managed to communicate with the city. In addition, my group did not manage to talk to him and make sure that he could come here to present his opportunities. We have already discussed internally. We are in the process of bringing improvements to all our representatives in different cities. But this project is a project for which these towers are generally built in the framework of much larger projects, such as new stations, where we have also carried out federal projects financed by subsidies. But as Sean mentioned, it is mainly for infrastructure reasons that we are ready to face the worst. The existing tower that is currently on the installation will be removed at the end of this project. And on the screen, you can now see that it is at the 57 Asoma fire station. I chose this photo because it looks a lot like the 21 fire station. It is also representative of what you could see from the street when you were driving just in front of the 21 Dohaï fire station. We therefore have our turn at the back and, as you can see, the antenna of this one has also been removed. So it will look like what you would see at the end of the construction. I am also there if you have any other questions, but I will give the floor back to Chief Cliréry. Thank you. Thank you. Very well. Thank you all. I mean, I'm really sorry. Take it personally that this misunderstanding has occurred. But I think that in the end, we all learn from our mistakes, don't we? That's how we improve ourselves. And I think that our processes within the fire service will improve for notifications, whether with cities, non-organized organizations in society or the supervisory council. But we have failed in this area. And we wanted to give you the opportunity to see what the tower would look like and tell you that we have made a mistake and that we are sorry for it. Thank you, chief. We all strive to be better communicators. I will speak in my name. Questions?

No. I just want to thank you for taking the lead and for admitting what you have done and wanting to improve it, and for taking the time to review our objectives and our tactics, to sort out what you have achieved and what you have missed. I really appreciate it. Thank you for that.

Yes, I have a question. I think I know the answer, but by measure. As a precaution, I suppose that this tour only takes care of your government communications. There will be no form of private or commercial piracy on your tour. I thought it was true, but I thought I had to ask. I think the only thing I've seen that could sometimes be installed on our tower is that the Ventura County Emergency Services Office installs alert cameras, which allows us to move them and monitor things. I know they've considered other higher towers. We're here to install one at the 27 à Filmore fire station. So, in the future, thanks to their camera subsidies, it could be an option, but yes, not virtual. And it's 100%, so it's a 100% government function. Yes. And so, I also agree to say that you could have adopted a much more disinvolved attitude regarding communications with us, because... I am convinced, according to the reports we have received. I did some research to check. We have nothing to say about the installation of this tower, but it is certainly useful to have this communication for our planning needs. Donc, j'apprécie que vous ayez reconnu et admis que nous allons être bons en communication. J'apprécie également beaucoup la relation que nous entretenons avec vous personnellement, les pompiers et notre shérif. J'ai donc l'impression que tout évolue dans la bonne direction. Merci pour cela. Autre chose, j'ajouterai une dernière chose. Oui, s'il vous plaît.

Juste pour rebondir sur ce que tout le monde a dit. Merci beaucoup d'être venu nous parler, d'avoir admis qu'une meilleure communication aurait pu être mise en place. Je pense que c'est quelque chose sur lequel nous travaillons tous en tant que ville. Et je tiens également à vous remercier pour l'excellent travail que vous faites pour protéger notre communauté. Vous savez, des avancées comme celle-ci, bien qu'elles puissent être alarmantes à certains égards, nous savons au final que votre intention est de nous protéger et de continuer à trouver des moyens d'être préparés en cas d'urgence. J'apprécie donc cela.

Merci. Merci à tous. Passez une bonne soirée. Je n'avais pas de fiche de commentaire public pour ce point, mais y avait-il quelqu'un en ligne qui souhaitait s'exprimer ?

Vérifions, monsieur le maire. D'accord.

Merci. Nous avons des participants Zoom, mais aucune main levée. D'accord. Quelqu'un voulait-il s'exprimer sur ce sujet ? D'accord. Merci d'être venu. Merci. J'apprécie. N'hésitez pas à rester ou à partir. À vous de choisir. Okay. We will move on to point number 3. E. The point on the objectives and tactics of the municipal council. Great. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. And we will. Thank you, Mr. Cyber. We will load the PowerPoint. Okay. And I will first of all start by thanking Norma for having collected all this. Excellent work. Norma will go through the PowerPoint presentation. I may have some comments in color along the way. And then we will take your questions and we will go to the comments of the public. I want to remind you of what I think some of you already have in front of you. Norma made sure you had a Jumbotron impression of the tactics. So that everyone can see them and follow them. But we also have them, I believe, in electronic form. If we have to display them on the screen, it doesn't matter. Just tell us if you want to. Thank you, sir. Wait. Wait for us to finish the presentation. No, we are not doing a separate screen. You know what? That makes sense. Okay. So, yes, we will go through the presentation. If, during the discussion of the council, the council wants it to be displayed on the screen, we will display it. But first, we have a presentation. Yes. So, Mr. Ventis, please. Thank you, Mr. Harvey. So, today, we are going to give you a general overview of the objectives and tactics of what we have accomplished, of what is in progress and of what we are preparing to present to the Council. We have therefore made significant progress, and you will see it. Next slide, please. So here is a board. In reality, it simply shows what we have accomplished and what is in progress or in progress and has not yet begun. And during the presentation, we will deepen what we have accomplished, what is in progress and what is in progress. But in reality, 73% are in progress, which means that we will submit some of these points to the council to finish them. We have already submitted them and the points in progress are things like the housing on which we are currently working, but there are just different projects that we are submitting. Laissez-moi juste intervenir. Eux, vous vous souvenez peut-être que nous étions en train de mettre en place ces objectifs et ces tactiques. Il y avait certainement un certain nombre d'autres projets et initiatives sur lesquels nous travaillions qui rejoignaient vos objectifs. Eux, nous les avons offerts gratuitement, comme vous vous en souvenez peut-être. Je vais donc vous donner un exemple dans le cadre de la résilience climatique. We had already signed a contract with Climate for the project of energy efficiency at the city level and we had not registered it as a goal, but it is certainly a tactic, excuse me. This certainly corresponds to your goals and your tactics. It is simply not included here because it was already in progress and we wanted to leave you room for other elements. Thank you.

Perfect. So, next slide. So, this first project on affordable housing really shows what we have in progress and what is in progress. This project in progress, which is housing for the workforce, simply explores the different options. This is why it is in progress. The others are in progress because we will resume them as part of the conceptual examination in the coming months. The special committee has also been set up. So we are also working on these elements. Next slide. and for the safety and management of fire risk. So, all the projects are underway, one or two. One or two have not yet started because they are underground micro networks. This requires a more in-depth work that we have not yet started, but the partnership with the Fire Safety Council is underway and we are making great progress with different partners or workshops that they have already organized for the community. And then the alert systems. It's a huge project. We are waiting for the federal government credit to affect this million dollars. We hope to have news on this subject in the fall of this year. And that's where the sirens, the display panels and the creation of a multi-modal system for the community so that we can be better prepared in case of emergency. Next slide. Arts, culture and leisure are in progress and we will proceed to concept exams for the cycle track of the Sôle Park. We will bring the Ken Hall behind. All of you for concept exams. But the most important is really the art subsidy program, which is our second year of funding of $ 100,000 and which really shows the community how much the art subsidy program is beneficial and how we can really associate ourselves with local artists. And then the support for non-profit organizations, which is also in our order of the day, which we will resume in the form of a concept exam so that you can all see the different options that we can offer for support for non-profit organizations with the money of all. Next slide, maintenance and improvement of infrastructure. So, there will also be a lot of conceptual examinations and the return of what, like paving, isn't it? It is certainly one of our main ones. Objectives and tactics, and we will come back to them as soon as we have more information from public works to be able to address them and see how we can really speed up this calendar. The replacement materials are also a subject on which public works work and we will come back to it in the coming months, as well as the parking strategy that we will take up to see what is really feasible for the community and what we can do with our parking situation. This will therefore also be part of the future points in the order of the day concerning parking. And for the cycleway, this is the most interesting point, because we are in preliminary talks with the county, to see what we can really do to connect the entire route to Solparc, and to see what we can collaborate with them, and what we can do with our current funding, and perhaps also to consider possibilities for subsidies. Next slide. Public safety. It is therefore an excellent idea. The road safety commission or the public safety commission convened its first meeting. They are working on the policy related to the DODAN. They have created an ad hoc commission that will meet next week, August 24, I believe. This is where the commission was created. La politique de limitation de la vitesse à la maison est en cours et l'étude sur la vitesse à l'échelle de la ville a été achevée plus tôt cette année ou l'année dernière, pour vraiment. Relancer la commission de la circulation ou de la sécurité publique. Diapositive suivante. Diversifier l'économie et la gestion du tourisme. It is also a fascinating question, because the economic action plan is in the process of elaboration, which will give us a real action plan that the city will be able to implement. It is not something that will remain on a shelf somewhere. It will be an exploitable element on which we will be able to work with the council once it is finished. And the entrepreneur met the members of the council, the owners of community businesses, etc. They are currently working on it and include the business incubator model in their research. They will also present to us the possible options. We will hear about it in the coming months. And then the revenue options. One of these tactics was the sales tax, the tax on secondary residences and the exploration of the tax concept. This is also part of the September work program that we will resume with different options and ways to really examine our options. Next slide. Climate resilience. As Mr. Harvey stated, we have the climate, but it really adds to it. It is about habitat restoration. will take up the options of eco-energy construction, on which community development is also working to create workshops for the community and provide these incitative concepts to the community and to the owners of the city. And then again, alternative paving. This is something on which public works work to explore and see what are the options that are offered to us and really the cost associated with it. Next slide. Financial stability. So, all this is ongoing and at different stages, isn't it? The most exciting thing is that the Excessive Reserve Policy will be submitted to the Finance and Budget Committee on September 23. Next month, it will be examined, then it will be submitted to the Council after examination. Then, the interactive tool of budgetary reporting, which will also be a concept that we will present to the Council, because the Finance Service is currently working on the search for this budgetary software. And then the Sheriff's contract, which is also something we briefly talked about when we presented the review of the contractual service concept in July. It is therefore something that we will present in a more in-depth way later this year so that we can see what our current options are and what we are currently paying. Next slide. And then communications and relationships. We have one that we have not yet started, namely community inquiry. And I think that in the end, we can also discuss how we can pursue this concept or orient it in another direction, but we have not yet started that one. and the evaluation of the website and the office of the municipal director are currently working on what we could do with our current supplier and what it would look like if we had to update the website. We will also present it so that you can all work with us to try to improve the website. And then the bi-monthly public meetings of next week are the first that we will organize for public safety, to discuss public safety and immigration with the municipal councillor Roulle and Sheriff Rioff. So it's next Wednesday at 6 p.m. here. And the event manager is Pio. Currently, I am in charge of Pio's post and special events are managed by Christy Rivra, the park and leisure manager. Et voilà tous nos objectifs. Diapositive suivante. Nous sommes ici pour... Dire où nous en sommes, n'est-ce pas? Donc, toutes ces choses arriveront plus tard cet été ou même à l'automne. Et cela vous donne juste un aperçu rapide de ce qui va suivre. Diapositive suivante. Et c'est tout. But to come back to the investigation, I think it's something we can discuss and work on after November to publish something in January where we can discuss a whole new tactic. Okay. And then, something Mr. Harvey and a few of us talked about, is to focus on concrete points that we can really reach before November during the next few months, in order to be able to. progress and achieve its objectives for the current council.

Thank you, Norm. I just wanted to add that I think the objectives chosen by the council are great. They help us to anchor ourselves and to make us move forward in a unified direction. Depending on who comes back after the elections, this council, whether they are the same people or different people, could choose to pursue its objectives with the same tactics, new tactics. You know, who knows? But these are good goals and they cover many different areas that seem to have a lot of concentric circles among you all, and we appreciate that and we hope that, you know, little things like daily reports have a point to align them on a goal. J'apprécie que le chef des pompiers ait utilisé cela dans sa discussion ce soir, car vous savez, c'est notre défaut, sur quoi devrions-nous travailler ? Eh bien, les objectifs du Conseil, bien sûr, c'est sur cela que nous devrions travailler. Donc, ce soir, dans votre discussion, s'il y avait quelques tactiques particulièrement importantes sur lesquelles vous aimeriez voir des progrès avant novembre, nous apprécierions vos commentaires. Euh, merci pour votre temps. Quelques commentaires que j'aimerais. Leave. No? Let's move on to the questions. We will first make some public comments. Okay. Questions for the staff before I continue? Yes, Rachel. Oh, well, anyway, Rachel starts.

Yes, Rachel. Uh, I just had a little question. Uh, so on the ... Safety of forest fires and risk mitigation. I noticed on the calculation sheet that it is mentioned to conclude partnership agreements to reduce fuel and dangerous debris, but I have not seen any updates on this subject. And so I was wondering in your presentation, Norma, and I was wondering if there was any news of these progress.

We started discussions with the fire chief and we must make this effort well. The title is, when we really started to be interested in it. And that's what the fire chief, the director of public works and myself, the chief, have clearly highlighted, some of the partnerships that we had to establish in order to make significant efforts in the region. Because the reduction of fuel could certainly take place within the limits of the city, and that could be useful. Vous savez, le plus grand risque se situe dans les zones périphériques et constitue une menace pour la ville. Nous devons donc poursuivre cette discussion. Le chef a eu beaucoup de bonnes idées sur la manière de procéder, mais c'est un projet plus vaste et plus long. Il existe également des exemples plus modestes, comme la coalition verte et l'équipe, même sur cette propriété, n'est-ce pas ? Nous avons donc autorisé cela. Mais il y en a d'autres où le conseil de lutte contre les incendies envoie des chèvres pour nettoyer, mais c'est souvent dans des zones non constituées en société. Ce n'est donc pas dans la ville parce que nous n'avons pas ce genre de champ, But yes. So, there are things, I suppose, that could be included in an update on this subject, just so that we can at least make the point. That's what I think your question is about.

Yes, absolutely. I just wanted to make sure that this was happening. Because when I saw that it was indicated, in progress, and that I did not hear any updates on this subject, I just wanted to make sure that it does not go between the threads of the thread, because it is really important. Thank you.

That's all.

Yes, one question. I have a few questions. So let's take this problem as an example. So, if a member of the council has ideas, either from a member of the community, or from his own reflections, on how to adjust one of our tactics, or even take a new direction, a similar but new direction. Quelle est la bonne procédure pour y parvenir ? Devons-nous, vous savez, revenir avec une réunion à cinq personnes ou, je ne sais pas. J'aimerais bien m'asseoir avec vous et en entendre parler, car je pense que tout dépend si ces documents ont été rédigés avec les meilleures intentions du monde, n'est-ce pas ? but they have been written in committees and you can sometimes see it by reading them. They do not look like a group of people discussing, which does not always mean something easy to implement. We could simplify that. I would like to hear your opinion, because I think we could refine some, depending on what it is. Yes, I would probably like to come back to the Council and say, and, here's what the member of the Intel Council says. That's why we're doing this. So, in terms of process, I'll discuss it with you. Then you will decide, yes, how I will try to move things forward, if so is the case. Yes, yes, I think many of these documents will be minor details. We all live these discussions and I know what the intentions were most of the time. We would be delighted to do it. Good question. I also have a question. Let's take the agreement on the cycle path. I think I understand that it has two parts. The first is the track, you know, from the Western Fondry to Whispering Oaks. Yes. And then there is an objective of Whispering Oaks to Sol Park. And then there is a third section that has made things a little more delicate, namely that the Ohio Valley Inn has a project for which it would be much easier if the city controlled the bike lane so that it could be examined and approved this project. So it's a bit of this other section, then the fourth section, that carries on the maintenance costs and tries to give them, sorry, to make sure that the counting. They are not difficult, but we need an approximate order of magnitude, okay, what are the planned expenses, what do we have to do to come back to the council and say, if you want to do that, here's what's waiting for you, on the one hand. Okay, and then from what I understood, there was Whisper Oaks to Sol Park. We do not consider going through Whisper. We think the most likely solution is to go through Sol Park. Well, there was, excuse me, the golf course. It's one of them. I think we have to examine the options. Yes, we have to. We have proposed several options, including those of going to OI Avenue. You can believe it. There have been several discussions. And, well, I mean, and that's part of it. But it's kind of the heart of my question. So, while negotiations are taking place, you know, a direction is potentially being formed, so you know, how and when does it come to us to say that potentially? We are not well. Maybe we shouldn't. We are not that far in the negotiations, so we really have to come back to you with just a concept here. Here are all the things that have been discussed. Give us the direction and tell us where we should, you know, we just have. Everything we've done so far has essentially highlighted all the things we have to address. And I think we should maybe. You know, having a few of them there, there are elements that, I think, will move forward naturally. Il y a des éléments qui vont potentiellement présenter beaucoup de variabilité et vous savez, certains d'entre eux pourraient être davantage évoqués dans vos rapports hebdomadaires. Je ne dis pas de le faire chaque semaine, mais parce que je suis très intéressé par la façon dont certaines de ces choses se passent. Je suis intéressé à savoir, vous savez, en quoi consiste le processus de négociation. Ouais, et je dirais que nous ne négocions pas. Je dirais que tout ce que nous avons fait jusqu'à présent, c'est exploré. Je dirais que c'est exploratoire. Ouais. Parlons des options potentielles disponibles. Je ne dis pas que nous choisissons l'une d'entre elles parce que nous n'avons pas d'inconvénients directs. N'est-ce pas ? C'est comme ça que nous avons abordé la question. Mais, comme vous me l'avez expliqué, Le terrain de golf possède un pont massif au-dessus de la rivière, ce qui est... Exact. Ce qui est... Non, c'est génial, sauf que vous pourriez potentiellement faire passer la piste cyclable à travers des balles de golf. But that's not it, that's where it seems to me that this article, for example, would be great to see here the three paths that are proposed. Here is the approximate cost of these three paths. Here are the advantages and disadvantages. So, if the job can be that you have not borrowed a road, which I do not think you are doing, but you present here all that we know, a clear estimate, then do one of the next things on which we will return. C'est super excitant pour moi et je dois dire que j'ai un peu insisté pour que je pense que traverser le terrain de golf est possible, ayant vécu à côté d'un terrain de golf avec des rails. Cela me semble être un peu une discussion.

C'est comme une discussion approfondie.

Mais vous êtes. Mais je pense que la question était de savoir à quel stade, c'est ce que je voulais dire, ce qui est bien, car il y a beaucoup de questions de processus ici.

Ouais, est-ce que c'est tout ?

Est-ce que c'est toutes vos questions pour l'instant, Monsieur Whitman ? Euh, euh, j'ai une question. Well, I have. Yes. Okay. I don't understand what's going on with the concept of incubation of large companies. I'm interested. But it may be a subject for discussion. I think so. So, I mean, we asked HDL Econ Solutions to explore this in the context of their economic action plan. Nous n'avons pas fait beaucoup de travail, il y a des indépendants, mais c'est là que nous pourrions travailler avec la Chambre pour dire qu'ils ont fait des progrès et dire que ce serait formidable d'avoir une présentation à ce sujet. La Chambre a fait du travail dans ce domaine. C'est vrai. Oui, nous avons des efforts privés en ville. Et certaines villes ont un programme de dons. C'est vrai. And so my last question to you about bi-monthly public meetings, I suppose this means that we have in a way a general objective of doing about six a year. That's what we started with as a translation. So I just wanted to let you know that per month, I always think twice a month. I know it's better to say that it's hard to say, every two months, every two months, yeah.

And it depends, you know, on the interest. Yeah, which is part of the advice and if they really want to do it. So I don't think there is an obligation and you know.

But just us, this is not the case, I will just clarify a little. So the one that comes is interesting and it is. But I would say that this is not the first because you could say that the workshop on the ordinance of the workshop on the trees was one and then also the permanent housing program with support services was another. So they were there. But it would be good to continue to put them forward. Yeah. Comments from the public. Oh, questions?

Yeah. So, I'm just here. There are a lot of these things that I don't understand the process or where we really are. And I think they are at different phases. Donc, vous savez, il se peut qu'il y ait une jonction où, vous savez, il est possible d'emprunter l'une des trois voies où il se peut qu'on soit encore au milieu de, vous savez, la formation. Eux, y a-t-il un moyen d'avoir une meilleure idée de cela? Je sais que, vous savez, il y a eux en cours. but I think there are in some way different phases. So, at some point, having a real idea of ​​the phase where we are would be great. We could provide more detailed notes, maybe after that, like state notes or something like that, and for example, you know, the discussions that took place on this date. You know, I mean. I think having comments like this, whether it's just a presentation text or a note when you have a meeting or a discussion on this subject that makes things move forward.

You bet that in the budget review, we saw that we had a cell with an arrow on the cell that you could highlight to get the text block. Now, I'm not interested in creating a ton of work. But if it was easy to say, oh, you're just updating the progress that you can go to the website where we can get the report. That would be great. Of course. And then I just have a comment. It's nothing, but let me see number 9, communications and relationships with events and Pio's post. I know that every time I mention something about employees, I am reminded that this is not my field. Stay in my field. That employees are underused. So, I find it a bit funny that if these are the objectives and tactics of the council, that we have nothing to do with employees, that two employees per list can. Well. Sure. They. Yeah. Eux, je pense que la façon dont j'ai vu ça, c'est que le Conseil voulait que ces fonctions soient prises en compte, n'est-ce pas ? Assurez-vous que nous ayons quelqu'un qui s'en occupe. Si je me souviens bien à l'époque, j'étais en quelque sorte le DSI par défaut et ça ne fonctionnait pas toujours très bien. Euh, et donc, euh, c'était une préoccupation. Et puis l'autre était que nous n'avions vraiment personne qui était la personne de référence pour les événements. Eh ! Mais je comprends. J'apprécie. J'apprécie votre commentaire. Oui, oui, mais nous, vous savez, nous allons parfois brouiller les pistes, évidemment. Eh ! You know, when you need a full function, we want to answer. Of course. Yeah. And then number 9, the communication gift. You need to turn off your microphone. Oh, I'm sorry. Okay. Well, I think we're going to discuss it. This will be one of the points of discussion now, I think. Okay. Very good. It looks good. After the comments from the audience. After the comments from the audience. That's right. Okay. It looks good. We would like to talk about it. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Very good. I have two cards. Larry Stengel, please. And then René Ross. Good evening. Hello. Larry Steinhold for me only. Thank you Ben Harvey and Norma and everyone for all the subsidies and the hard work you have done on all the updates. The tactics, the objectives, they are good things. My concern is that we are still looking for new recipes and that we have to pay for all these things, but we never talk about expenses. We never talk about controls. We never talk about financial stability, discipline. It is good to continue to ask for money. We know that we will need more money. It increases every year by 2, 3, 4, 5%. We must find new funds, whether through a sales tax, which, I hope, will not be voted because it affects everyone. The land tax, the tax on the main and secondary residences are easy to take measures. Why? Because, very honestly, they don't vote. And that's the truth. So, these are the fruits to bear. The question is to know how much money we must get from them continuously. Because according to the SCAG, there is about 8.9% of vacant housing. It was in 2021. There may be 300 houses. If you need $ 1 million a year, it's $ 3,300. If the goal is to raise funds, then that's what you have to do. If, from the point of view of many people, the goal is To attract more families to Ohio, then, very honestly, the costs must be much higher because 3, 4 or 5 thousand dollars a year will not be enough to encourage anyone to sell. If that's the goal, but if the goal is to raise funds, then do it. But not a sales tax, because you have to start looking at the prices and no one wants to do that. And we don't want more hotels, more expensive restaurants and more expensive retail, because that's what happens when we lose control of our expenses. Nous avons besoin de plus de revenus, ce qui attire plus de monde, ce qui signifie désormais plus de nuités. Nous ne voulons donc pas être obligés de faire des choses que nous ne voulons pas faire. Alors, s'il vous plaît, contrôlez nos dépenses d'une manière ou d'une autre. Suivez-les, soyez disciplinés. Nous savons qu'il y a beaucoup de mandats, beaucoup de problèmes imposés par l'État, beaucoup de fonds de pension. Tout cela est fixe. Tout est intégré, mais c'est variable. Je ne veux tout simplement pas être obligé de renoncer à ma semaine parce que j'aime ma semaine. Vous aimez la semaine. Du lundi au vendredi, c'est génial. Les week-ends, c'est comme ça. Nous sommes une ville touristique et cela paye pour la semaine. Alors, s'il vous plaît, essayons de contrôler nos dépenses. Pour ne pas être obligés de nous développer mal. Merci, Monsieur Stengel. René Ross, s'il vous plaît.

Ce n'est pas nouveau. Wow. Oh, c'est génial. D'accord. René Ross, ville d'Ohaï. Euh, bonsoir, membre du conseil. Je ne suis pas venu depuis un moment. Sommes-nous prêts pour la fin de l'été ? Je sais que oui. Je suis vraiment en train de supporter cette chaleur. Euh, d'accord. So, first of all, this Monday and Tuesday of this week, the Ohio Valley Fire Security Council organized a two-day course on the construction and landscaping resistant to forest fires, the second they organize. And I attended the first in May. And there were a lot of people. The one that took place this week was also very well followed. Et le membre du conseil roule était là et je tiens à le remercier d'avoir participé à l'événement du conseil de sécurité incendie. Je ne peux pas vous dire à quel point j'ai appris. C'était deux jours complets. C'était incroyable. Génial. Il y avait... Beaucoup à apprendre et je suis juste passée pour voir si... Bref.

Ma question est, où étiez-vous tous ? Désolée, je dois juste la poser. Où étiez-vous, vous autres ? Où étiez-vous ? But I also want to thank Nick Cleary for his comment. I would have liked to have had the opportunity to say it earlier instead of doing it during my three minutes, because I only have one and a half minutes left. But I think that the idea according to which we need better communication. We need more communication. There are landslides and landslides and we are not. The failure of communication and reliable communication are really important and you have to be the leader in this effort. You must be the leader in this effort. A question was asked during the event concerning the payment of a metal grid on the vents. It's a good idea so far. But the honest answer from the front of the room was that the grids did not prevent the birches from entering a vent, but that does nothing against the vegetation, against the house, the pine needles in the gutter or the plants under the roof that catch these birches on fire in the first place. So, please, don't think about doing just one thing, it's the quick solution and it's what will save us. Please, please, you have a contract with the fire safety council. Ask them, ask them, go see them and tell them, what is the best use of the money from your next contract? Because we know that about a third of the money from their initial proposal has been lost. And it was fundamentally, and Rachel, I would like to thank you for mentioning fire safety this evening as one of your objectives. And you are the person who maintained the fire safety contract in force with the fire safety council. Thank you.

Say very briefly that the sage on stage, when he was asked the question of ventilation, he said that the ventilation was excellent, but what he also had to do was absolutely clean the vegetation, the bread needles, everything that contained oil, he said that otherwise it would be. But these two things together are very very strong and so we can talk about it, it was very interesting.

Thank you to all those who are online, Mr. Non, the mayor. Okay. Well, there is the point of the community survey. I know that it wanted to be discussed. I have another point that I was hoping to talk about, but let's talk about the survey first. To make it simple, I think the survey is an excellent idea. The best time to launch it is, I think, after the dismissal, just after the council sits, wherever it is. To launch it right away, because we would get the results quickly, for example by launching the survey for about 30 days, then by presenting it immediately to the council and telling it, very well, whatever the advice, here are the objectives of the previous council. Do you want to continue them? Do you want to modify them? Here are the results of the survey. Here is what the community says and use them to help you. But you should prepare it in advance so that it can be launched at that time. Je veux dire que je voudrais que ce soit l'un des touts. Premier point que je soumettrai au nouveau conseil. Je vois. D'accord. Parce que nous ne voulons pas supposer que. Ouais, c'est juste. Et vous savez, il se pourrait que le nouveau conseil dise cela. Ouais, c'est super. Poussez-le. Donc le nouveau conseil le crée et puis d'accord. Et le nouveau conseil pourrait très bien être composé des mêmes personnes qui siégeaient.

Ouais, bien sûr. MHM. Je veux dire, ça a l'air raisonnable.

Yeah, it's not complicated. It's just a matter of timing. And, he could also decide not to do it. Yes, he could. You know what? And it's also because some members of the council, you know, at this stage can say, you know, I just finished a campaign. I heard everyone. I know what they want to do. Yeah, I don't need to do an investigation. Okay, okay. So, we can decide on that, I suppose, later. Yeah. I mean, so I'll ask you during the second meeting. Well, I suppose we don't have a second meeting in November. First meeting in December. Okay.

Does anyone have any ideas on this subject? No, I talk about it when it's relevant. I had a question about another economic action plan. Je voulais juste savoir si nous avions un calendrier pour cela. J'ai cru comprendre que... Je ne me souvenais plus de son nom, mais il a parlé à tous les membres du conseil. Est-ce exact ?

Barry et Ruth ont parlé à tout le monde. Ils ont également. Je pense qu'ils essaient maintenant de contacter toutes les parties prenantes identifiées par le conseiller. Je dois donc faire un suivi et savoir exactement où elles en sont, mais c'est là qu'elles étaient la dernière fois que je les ai contactées. Ouais.

So, I would like to. Well, I mean, who knows who will be back in December, but I would like to go further to try to give them a calendar and work on it. That would be great.

Yeah.

And determine if it is part of the general plan and if it is mandatory. You know where we are with that and what is not linked.

E. Il y aura un texte de présentation E cette semaine dans l'hebdomadaire sur l'état du plan général et les différents éléments sur lesquels vous devez vous concentrer. J'ai oublié. Merci beaucoup. D'accord. D'accord. D'accord. Mais je pense que cela peut grandement contribuer à éclairer cet effort et nous sommes donc heureux de parler à Barry et de voir si nous mettrons cela dans l'hebdomadaire également. Où en êtes-vous et quelle est la prochaine étape ? Oui, exactement. J'allais également faire un commentaire à ce sujet dans ce. Vous savez, si je me souviens bien, j'ai soulevé cette question et demandé d'avoir un élément de plan général qui n'était en fait pas le concept, ce n'était pas un plan d'action économique. Le concept était E. D'aborder la faisabilité ou les meilleures méthodes pour Make Hawaii more livable for its inhabitants in the face of the assault of tourists. And... You know, that was my goal and I continue to monitor the plan's etiquette which is going more and more towards that. It's as if we're trying to understand how to generate business, which goes in a different direction than your desire and I have Mr. Cyber somewhere. I think he's sure.

May I add something, Councilor Whitman? Of course. Because you and I, it is partly the reason why we are developing an economic action plan to begin with, it is so that our revenues are not too taxing tourism. So, one of the objectives for which, you know, I understood that we presented it, and why I am very attached to it, is because to see if, if we wanted to have a better balance with tourism, if we wanted to have more income for the residents here, then how could we open these sources of income, and what would it look like? So, the tourism management plan that you proposed, which goes hand in hand with the general plan and the economic action plan, both have the same objective. They both have the same objective. And one of the reasons why the economic action plan included so many surveys and questions about tourism is for that. To examine where we are, what are the commercial opportunities, and to open new sources of income with incubators or things like that. But in reality, the goal, the intention, is exactly aligned with what you have proposed.

Thank you for that. And I will probably continue to remind everyone that my goal is to determine if we can make Hawaii more livable for its inhabitants. I appreciate what you say. That seems logical to me and I will keep that in mind. Puis-je intervenir ? Car nous avons Lucas en ligne. Monsieur Montgomery, pouvez-vous ? Il dit que vous pouvez. Vous devez le mettre en avant. Je suppose qu'il n'est qu'un participant. While you are doing this, my goal seems to be anchored in all this, it is the creation of jobs that are not focused on tourism. This is therefore by no means a service sector. These are rather professional jobs, so that residents do not have to leave the valley to find a job that is sufficiently well paid. This is what I see in the economic diversification plan. Yes, I am not saying that we must build anything 100% and I would simply add that there may be. 20 years. The municipal council decided to create the industrial zone of Bryant, it was in a way the name of this area. And what did not happen after they did that, or maybe they tried, I do not know, but you know, they did not really insist on the fact that we now have this area, attract companies that pay more than the good rates of the service sector. I therefore support the idea that we find a way to attract these companies and these jobs. Just a suggestion. I think that, members of the Whitman Council, you may have found your particular town hall.

Because there are many stakeholders and many ideas and, anyway, it occurred to me that it seems to be, you know, a particular interest.

Nobody wants to hear me talk.

Well, you could just bring people in, but I agree. I think that's absolutely the point here. You know, and whether or not it brings what it will really bring. I have a different vision, but it's not about tourism. It's really about regenerative oil and making an economy out of it. Un peu comme une économie verte, sauf que c'est une économie régénératrice qui prend l'argent de tout et tout ça et le réinjecte dans les travailleurs communautaires qui font le travail qui fait d'Ohai un endroit plus sûr et résistant aux incendies.

Pour que vous ayez une sorte de multi-multi-virtuel.

J'ai donc un plan pour cela que je suis heureux de partager.

Yes, thank you, Lucas, he has technical difficulties, but I think your contribution has not been lost and that it is in the general planning process. I will therefore make sure that the update of this week takes care of it. So, the point that I wanted to submit to you, and according to my calculations, I would say that it includes affordable housing, arts, culture, leisure and communications. Nous avons vu que la propriété OD au centre-ville a changé de cas. Ils n'auront pas d'obligation, comme nous le savons tous, mais nous savons qu'ils étudient toujours la possibilité d'un projet de logement pour la main-d'œuvre. If one of you was at the meeting, watched it or heard about it, I would like to hear from you and here are a few ways to proceed. Renew the dialogue with the OSD to discuss the historical preservation of the facade, what to do so that the general ownership remains focused on the community. It could be a meal of peace. So I think there are a lot of really interesting things to discuss. They are open to that. So two ideas. There may be others. The first is that we can relaunch the 2 and 2. C'est génial. Nous pourrions également organiser un atelier public où leur conseil d'administration serait là avec nous et nous dirions que vous le lancez pour qu'il soit déterminé. Mais quelque chose comme OSD, quels sont vos besoins ? Disons pour le personnel, vous savez, retenir et attirer du personnel. D'accord, nous comprenons quels sont vos besoins, vos besoins financiers. Voici quels sont nos intérêts. Que voulons-nous maintenir dans cette propriété ? Donc, je pense que c'est une excellente occasion d'avoir une conversation publique, soit deux et deux, puis publique ou publique tout de suite. and to see what could be done with this property that corresponds to all of us. Yeah, I have a lot of ideas. This is probably not the time to discuss it, but I think that you want to say today, yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, great, great, yeah. I did it, you know, I didn't completely lose sight of the fact that we had planned a joint meeting, you know, and that it was cancelled and that there was no discussion about a possible return. Et puis voilà. Et puis le conseil scolaire annonce ce qu'il va faire à nouveau sans nous parler de ce que nous pourrions faire. Donc, vous, je vous prends. Vous pensez qu'ils sont prêts pour une conversation? Je suis presque prêt à avoir une conversation. Ouais, ouais. Donc, je pense que nous pouvons encore faire des progrès avec quelques personnes et ensuite avancer le sujet ou les conversations publiques aussi. At least, that could mean that I don't think we will ever dissolve the 2 plus 2. No, we should go back and see if it was linked. If it was only linked to the housing of the laborer, it could extend because there are other problems. For example, as we all know, the historical maintenance is a problem at this time that has been raised. But another thing is to launch it like that. If the city is interested in rental possibilities for our interests, then it is not only the laborer.

Donc, si vous me le permettez, je pense que nous allons nous éloigner du cadre des objectifs et des tactiques.

Je recommanderais donc que nous revenions sur ce point à l'ordre du jour.

C'est vraiment ce que je demande.

Je pense que oui. D'accord.

Et puis nous pourrons décider de la forme que nous aimerions que cela prenne. Et puis j'avais juste une autre question. J'ai noté certaines choses au fur et à mesure qu'elles se présentaient. Donc, eux. You know, one of them was the micro-network and the spread. And... I wrote the spread because I think I have a general understanding of the micro-network issue, but... I'm not saying it's the forum, but I think I need to better understand what we're talking about and what we're considering about the spread. And, you know, basically, same comment. I wrote, support to non-profit organizations, which I'm not sure about, so I'm curious to know where it is. I mean, we talked at some point about trying to generate a policy. E, concerning. The language of the initiative. I can remind you what it was. It is the idea, the concept that is in some way in agreement with the reserve policy. But if we were similar to what the council had done in the past, where the council was requested by a non-profit organization for donations, if you remember. So, if you created a fund that was linked, let's say, directly from the tax. So, symbolically, you see, oh, tourists finance this thing. We support tourism in a certain way, but everything goes to non-profit organizations that postulate. But the idea was developed as follows. There could be an evaluation of needs and the Ventura County Community Foundation could examine the requests. But you would have this annual process similar to what the city has done in the past. Ce ne sont que des idées, mais c'est ce qu'est cet élément, c'est une sorte d'examen de concept. Absolument un examen de concept à ce stade, et il n'y a eu que les premières conversations avec des consultants qui ont dit, si vous êtes intéressé par une évaluation des besoins, ce que fait également le Fonds pour les Femmes, vous pourriez vous appuyer sur ce qu'ils font, ouais. Juste revenir à l'enfouissement, guillemet double. Donc, ce qui devrait. What will probably happen is that we should simply come back to an element of information on what is involved in the smuggling, the expenses and the available mechanisms, what Edison did in this area. They, all that. Yes, I know. That I did not vote for each of our objectives, but I think I understand that these are the objectives of our municipal council and I just want to know what my objectives are. Once again, Just to bounce back on what you just said, I would like to see again, this is not an absolute priority because it is a huge project, but what other similar city like ours could be used? How could a micro network work there? This is something we have been talking about for a few years, even without much examination of the concept, but if we just had an almost summary presentation, here is the city of blah blah blah. Here is the process, here is how long it took. It would be interesting to see. For the anecdote. Je suis allé en voiture à Carlsbad, au Nouveau-Mexique, qui se trouve en gros jusqu'au Texas. Et eux, il y a tellement de développement solaire dans toute cette région, vous savez. Vous avez 300 jours de soleil par an, mais il y a tellement de développement que nous avons beaucoup de soleil. Je suis intéressé, c'est faisable et ça pourrait l'être. Je veux dire, encore une fois, ce serait amusant de faire un examen de concept pour comprendre comment le comté serait un partenaire. Juste quelques réflexions. Lucas est de retour si vous voulez revenir pour parler du plan général de gestion du tourisme. Monsieur Cyber, vous nous entendez ? Je vous entends. D'accord. Merci, merci, merci beaucoup d'être revenu. Eux, donc vous. Je ne sais pas si vous avez entendu la discussion ou non, mais eux, nous parlons de la gestion du tourisme et du plan général et nous essayons d'avoir un élément qui essaie vraiment de comprendre les impacts que cela a sur nos résidents et les moyens de gérer cela. Je sais que vous rassemblez des informations que nous allons partager avec le Conseil cette semaine dans le cadre de la mise à jour hebdomadaire, mais pouvez-vous nous donner un petit aperçu de cet élément particulier et de cet intérêt ? Est-ce que ça vous convient ? Oui, je veux dire, Lisa Wise et Consulting rassemblent de très bonnes informations. Eux, nous avons une réunion prévue non pas ce mercredi, mais mercredi prochain pour vraiment faire le point sur leur progrès. and I am impatient to talk about it with them as well. We are. They also provide us with information about the investigation and the results of the investigation and how it contributes to influence and enlighten the direction that it is going to take. And then, in addition to that, there is the analysis of the gaps that we are going to make that help us. Understanding which elements help these people to understand what needs to be done or what needs to be done, from an objective and tactical point of view, to help the community rather than to help the tourist community that arrives, them, temporarily. Because it's interesting, when I spoke for the first time to Lisa Wise, she told me, oh, there are all these tourist companies that would be great. And I told her, that's not what we're considering here, guys, let's change the topic. So it took a few conversations for them to get to the point where we are now examining what are these elements that help. The community that is there. J'ai entendu dire que vous étiez là 5 jours par semaine et que vous étiez là 7 jours par semaine, mais en réalité, cette influence s'exerce sur les personnes qui sont là toute l'année. Bref, c'est le volet économique. Il y a d'autres volets, mais oui, je vais faire une mise à jour. Je suis en plein dedans en ce moment. Puis-je poser une question à ce sujet? Bien sûr. Parce que je crois que j'avais la fausse impression d'avoir fait venir Lisa Wise. J'étais en quelque sorte très intéressée d'entendre ce qu'elle aurait à dire, car j'avais lu des articles sur son cabinet, puis j'avais l'impression que nous avions changé de cap pour passer à un autre cabinet que nous avons tous rencontré récemment. Oh, ils sont complémentaires. Ils sont toujours là, Lisa Weiss et nous avons aussi HDO Econ. Ils travaillent tous les deux dessus, et le plan d'action économique est plutôt une affaire à court terme. Here are measures that you can take immediately to help your economy, in the way that each member of the municipal council can do it. That's why we asked each of you to participate, just to express your concerns. So this is what they are trying to do in relation to the general plan which consists more to update your constitution for the city. Yes, I know you understand. Okay. Thank you. Do you have other points to address? Yes, yes.

I suppose that I will examine the financing of arts, culture and leisure. And I particularly put the financing of leisure in there to think about the park. And it appeared to me that we should really think about the dog park.

Because there is none in Ohio. I mean, you can go to Seoul, but you have to get in the car. Uh, and you know, it creates a lot of tension between people who do not want dogs to be homeless in the parks and those who know that their dogs must be. E. There are so many reasons why dog parks in Ohio are perfectly logical. E. So I would like to propose a kind of. I have ideas on this subject. You know, the city has fields, there are unused fields. We could have small dog parks for people who have very small dogs and they could just walk their dogs in the small parks, sit on the benches and spend time together, you know. And then there are people with big dogs who really need to have fun. So there is the back of Sarzod which is not used at the moment, this big track is where the tree just fell. We could have a real dog park there. Euh, you know, up to the director's plan for a sozo. So, I think that there, you know, we're really just talking about closure. Euh, you know, putting closures and a bench. It's really all that a dog park is. Euh, and I think it would be great for the community. I think it would be great for dogs. Euh, and I think it would reduce some tensions around existing parks. E. Donc j'aimerais réfléchir à cela lorsque nous parlons. Je suppose que ce serait le deuxième, le financement des arts, de la culture et des loisirs.

E. Si je peux suggérer la révision du concept OD, je ne suis pas et je n'ai pas eu cette idée. Quelqu'un d'autre l'a fait, mais je l'adore. Cela pourrait être une possibilité pour ces parcs pour chiens.

Yes, it's certainly possible. And you know, the thing is that these dog parks don't need to be permanent. In fact, you're talking about a closure. You may have to, you know, reinstall and all that kind of stuff. Without a doubt. But you're essentially talking about a closure, a closure and a bench. That's something I thought about.

Et peut-être un peu d'ombre, vous savez. Et ce serait formidable pour toutes nos personnes âgées qui promènent leurs petits chiens, vous savez, eux, et leurs chiens, ils vont s'asseoir et parler, ce qu'ils adorent faire, je sais. Et il y a des endroits dans tout l'Ohio qui pourraient être de petits parcs. Donc, j'aimerais eux. Donc je pense que ce serait aussi un point à l'ordre du jour futur que nous ramènerions. Très bien. Je vais en rester là.

Ouais. But I think that where we could really need your help, advice, is, you know, I heard that there seems to be an interest for the bike lane and the options that are there. On dirait que peut-être que le projet de logement pour la main d'oeuvre de l'UOD pourrait inciter certaines personnes à vouloir le remettre en place. Eh bien, ne dites pas logement pour la main d'oeuvre, dites simplement propriété du centre-ville de l'UOD. Il faut y penser d'une manière plus globale. Bien sûr, ouais. Euh, appelons ça au USD. Ouais, réimagination du campus. Oui, quelque chose comme ça. Campus du centre-ville. J'aimerais également mettre en avant là. Security against forest fires and the attenuation of risks with the removal of debris and see what we can do on the properties of the city to do. Advance an offer call or, you know, accelerate this process. And I would add that this is not a priority, but I would say that I have received information on safety in the event of forest fires. I have received. Un grand nombre d'appels de personnes qui souhaitent disposer d'une stratégie d'information et de planification très claire concernant le concept selon lequel certaines personnes vont évacuer, que quelqu'un leur dise de rester sur place ou non. We must potentially communicate better with the public, a bit like if I had grown up in local schools. They therefore gave us conditions according to which, in case of earthquake, you must jump and cross the threshold of the door, or hide under your desk, etc. But I think people want to know if there is a forest fire and get detailed instructions on it. Je sais que nous travaillons sur la communication avec les tableaux d'affichage, ce qui pourrait en être un. E. Vous savez, les stations de radio à écouter et l'idée que quelqu'un vous conçoit du point A au point B, c'est Just to say that it is the number one priority of the disaster management committee and that the public security committee is in charge. So, exactly what you just said, it is the first point of the communication of companies around what would be there, there is not a single evacuation plan, there cannot be one, like. They will say it, but how can we make sure that our communication plan is completely made public, that's what must be elaborated, isn't it? And the two leaders have that in mind, it comes to the public and I hear. A lot of people, you know, a little anxious, I don't think I know enough about what's going to happen. I agree with that. The other thing that happens in this area and the police chief is leading this effort, is that we are going to do a community exercise. And that could be a very small sample of one. For example, it could be something as simple as a chemical waste on a highway. But just to put people in the mood, okay, it's an emergency. How can I find information on this subject? What should I do? And again, the public would be invited to participate. So it's something we're trying to move forward in the fall. And if I can intervene, it's something Randy Cogan talked about during our last meeting in the public comments. Je tiens donc à remercier le Conseil de sécurité incendie et tout le public, notre sécurité, tous ceux qui travaillent sur ces efforts, car je sais qu'il y a beaucoup de choses qui sont faites et que cela se passe si vite que nous n'avons pas toujours des mises à jour ou une. consolidation of everything that is happening. But I just want to point out that part of this is in progress and that you appreciate the efforts. It is possible that another communication, like the one we had in Outlook before, is justified by a little more information or modifications of the website to inform people about it. The question that was raised at the disaster committee was the following. you have the community plan to fight forest fires, but it is gigantic, you see? So you want to say, how, if something happens, what will simply appear at the top of the website? You see? Or how do you know what a radio station is or a toilet alert or that kind of thing? So you want all of this to be really public and accessible to the public, But what happens if no one looks at their communications? They don't look at their phones or their computers. That's where the mermaids would intervene to say to go see these things or that you have communities protected against fires and that you have people who go there. So, everything is being elaborated, but it doesn't make any noise for the person who says, just show me the plan. I need to know what to do. It's not black or white like that. But I think we explained to them why we couldn't give them. It's true. 100% of the details. It's true. But they, you know, if they, can see. They, ah, yeah. So, there are like them, you know, there are options that will apply and that's where you discover what options are at stake for that day. I'm not saying that the evacuation is not the way to go, but I think it's September 2nd, but there is a whole day open to the Summit School on the Resilience Center over there. Donc, pour moi, la réponse à tout cela est tout ce qui précède. Il s'agit de clarifier et de diffuser des communications comme celle-là et de ce que serait un centre de résilience si vous ne pouvez pas partir.

Cela ressemble à une autre mairie.

Ouais, une autre mairie. Et nous venons de dire qu'il n'y avait pas de mairie, mais le conseil de sécurité incendie a fait quelques incendies.

Je ne nie rien du fait que le conseil de sécurité incendie a organisé des mairies après des mairies. Je dis juste qu'il est peut-être temps de parrainer une ville. Alors, y a-t-il ?

Anything else before we part? Are there any other points that you would like to submit to the staff's reflection? Ben, you were walking through the list. You heard the O.D. concept. I now have six points. Okay. Read what you have, please. E. And they are not in a particular order. Okay. E. Reduction of fuel in the limits of the city. O. U.S.D. Campus of the city center. Dog park. Evacuation plan. Cycling track. Surveillance. Okay. J'ai oublié quelque chose, je veux dire, je sais qu'il y en a beaucoup. D'accord. D'accord. Oh, ça a l'air vraiment bien. D'accord, c'est notre dernier point. Et nous allons lever la séance. Super, merci. Merci.