Hendersonville Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

Hey, how you doing? I'm going to call the meeting to order. We'll have the opening prayer and I'll do it tonight. I didn't ask anybody ahead of time. So, everybody ready? Dear Lord, thank you so very much for this beautiful day. Thank you for all that you've done for us. Lord, please guide us tonight as we make decisions for the city and help us to do the right thing. Lord, be with all of our soldiers wherever they are through the world and be with Israel as they have to deal with their hardships. All this we pray in your name. Amen. Amen. All right, next roll call. Zack Aliser here. Evans here. Hardwitt. Hasty here. Kerr here. Longm Silkwood Slatterie. All right, we have All right. Present. Thank you. Appreciate it. Public comments. Agenda items only. Nobody signed up. Is that correct? That's correct. So, we're good to go past that. Acceptance of the agenda. Any issues with the agenda? Anybody see any problems? Y'all accept it as is? Yes. All right. I have to have a motion for this. Second. All right. Thank you. Uh, can I do this one just by voice? You can do it. All agree say I. I. Any oppose? All right. Next is the minutes. All right. Second. Everybody had time to look at it, so that's good. Uh I can do this one by voice, too. Everybody accept. Say I. I. Anybody uh oppose? All right, it passes. Thank you. Now, the next thing we have, this might be a record tonight. Okay, the consent agenda. All right, we have 136 and 138 Chival Drive site plan

owner Rob Kushman. Location 136 138 Shival Drive, parcel 163DB002.02. I know it's by Timothy Whitten and Caitlyn, but they're not here tonight. And if there are any questions about it, we have Keith here to explain. So, would you like to go? Yeah. Go ahead. All right. We'll uh we'll run through those images just so everybody can kind of see the images up on the on the screen. Uh this is 136 and 138 Chival Drive. This is currently three lots. Uh they're going to be combining the lots to make uh take the three small lots uh to make two larger lots. Uh as you can see on the screen, uh there's going to be two buildings. They're going to be a little bit less than 5,000 square feet. Uh this is in our Dockside neighborhood uh neighborhood zoning classification. So, it's one of the uh one of the newer things within that new uh zoning classification. Uh the two buildings, they're fairly similar, but there are some uh differences uh with the brick and with the exterior features. Maybe click to that next one. That's Yeah, this kind of is a rendering of what the building's going to look like. Uh it's uh uh it's pretty much 100% brick. uh the uh developers worked with us to uh to make sure that the materials and the quality of design uh kind of met what we were looking at that uh we we were kind of faced with some challenges where this particular zoning classification does allow mixed use. So this could float from commercial to eventually to single family residential to a combination of both. Uh so uh it was uh really the first one that we've run across uh that uh in this new zoning classification uh that's kind of teed up uh where it's going to be able to be truly flexible. Uh of course it is limited to one residential unit, you know, on the property, but it's going to have a lot of flexibility to it. Uh currently what they're proposing, they don't have a specific use, but kind of the the

placeholder is a contractor's uh uh storage storage office uh is what that's is what it's going to initially be is what we calculated it for. Uh and and this uh meets all of our different requirements and uh the the developer has agreed to all the staff comments. It's on the consent agenda uh this evening. Uh and uh everything once they make all the corrections, we'll meet all the uh all the comments uh that the staff has had on it. And I'm happy to answer any questions if anybody had any specific questions about this. I do have a couple questions. Just curiosity. Uh will there be an overhead door in the back? There will be. Uh if you can go back, uh Zach. There we go. There's a there's a overhead door to on the side facing that shared uh drive entry, but also on the back there's a rear overhead door in that rear of that as well on each building. Right. On each building. On each building. Yes, sir. And then about how how what will be the interior height of the building? 18 16 18 about 14 14 about 14 feet height in the in the interior. Okay. Okay. Thank you. So Keith, I have a question, a couple questions. Go ahead. What um what's going to be stored in the building? Yeah. Yeah, go ahead. I'm Rob Kushman. I live at 1445 Anderson Road here in Hendersonville. So, um storage, it's it's really a thousand square feet of office and it's really flexible up front. We kind of designed it to have a um kitchenette, two bathrooms, and some conference space or open space. So, you walk in, have about 1,000 square feet, and then you go through a door, have 4,000 ft of space. It can be anything

you want it to be. Down in Nashville, there's a lot of maker spaces, people that create, you know, it can be a wood shop. We've got some flex space here in Hendersonville, and they've got we've got uh cabinet makers, we've got different types of users like that. That's kind of the vision is someone who would someone who would lease a flex space like that. This is the next level. Got it. Second question. Um are you any outside are you storing any vehicles, any pods, anything out outside? No, there's no plan for that. We've got the the site parked. You know, it's got asphalt in the front for commercial type parking. And then there's a drive between the buildings and then there's rear parking as well, but it's not meant to be a contractor storage yard, per se. It's not really for outdoor space on what it's teed up for. And last question, uh parking did how many spaces are we going to have? And is that a Yeah, I believe the requirement on this uh was six spaces and I think they provided eight on one side or nine on the other or nine on each. So they're they're overp parking it from that from that requirement. Thank you. No problem. W which will allow for as different uses go in the building which will allow that flexibility. So you know not too much parking but enough parking that it won't limit future uses. It won't be an assembly user like a gym user any of those. That's not really the the target. That's not what we're looking for. Commissioner Martin, you have questions? Uh, not for you. Uh, this is for Keith Free. Um, when it comes to Shival Drive, um, and the Westlake plan um along Imperial Drive um between Imperial Drive and and Main Street where this project is located is a little bit of a different approach than it is on the other side of uh Imperial Drive. So, um,

for the folks at home, this project actually fits within what we have laid out for, uh, the Westlake plan, if it were to be on the other side of Imperial Imperial Drive, um, that would be a different discussion. Can you articulate the difference between Dockside Drive and then the other side of Imperial? Yes, I sure I sure can. uh alderman uh the the south side of Imperial uh that's classified as SR3 which is N neighborhood preservation. So we're trying to preserve the residential character of the single family homes uh within that area uh and more of a protective kind of uh neighborhood zoning. Uh and then north of 380, north of uh Imperial, uh then we have the Dockside neighborhood. And then that do and that doside neighborhood is kind of sandwiched between the commercial up on uh West Main Street. And the Dockside neighborhood is uh like all of the existing development that's over there where you had houses, but half of them converted to offices and and different commercial things. Uh this is this zoning now fully embraces that but doesn't put it on doesn't put it uh where it's where it's uh uh frozen where it can only be commercial but let it kind of lets it flex uh between commercial and residential. Uh so that we don't end up with the situation within this where that well if you if there wasn't a big enough commercial demand you can't use it residentially as a home or something. uh and uh or if there wasn't uh any residential demand uh then but there was commercial you could step up and do that and I think just as uh Rob had hit on it these particular projects that he's building really are going to have that true opportunity for a live work you know where somebody could have a business in there and rent out uh you know an

apartment uh you know or a living space or they could own the building and live there and actually uh have their business there as well. So, it's going to really create uh create a unique opportunity, but those are completely separate and that this kind of development for this doside neighborhood is fully embracing the vision of uh that was approved in West Lake. I agree with that and I support this project. All right. Any other questions from commissioners? All right. Um, open to a motion. So moved. I'm sorry. Go. I'm sorry. Okay. Well, I heard both. So Todd started it. You finished it. So I'll take you as a second. I'll take Todd as given the motion. All right. Thank you. Sorry about that. Uh, we'll do this one by roll call. I do. I agree. Yes, it's with staff comments. Motion to approve. Pass with eight yeses. All right. Thank you. Thank you all. Yeah. All right. Next. Staff level projects pending. Um, do I need to read all these, Keith? I can go through them real quick. Just give a synopsis. You can go through and hit the highlights if you'd like. Okay, I'll go through those and let me kind of get up a little closer here to the mic. Also, just uh for just to to mention again in in future meetings as anyone is uh uh uh talking into the microphone, if you can just get up right on it uh so that everybody in

the audience and everybody up on the panel can hear uh that that would be awesome. So, I'm trying to remember to do that uh myself. Yeah. So, Jason can hear back there. That's right. Uh I'll just go through these. These are projects that are pending. We have that Donna Drive, that Ferguson Acres lot 2 amendment. They're still finishing that up. Uh Forest Retreat subdivision consolidation of 70706 West Main Street. Uh that's uh associated with a commercial uh strip center that we approved over there. Uh the Friends of Indian Lake. Uh this is uh for a little parking uh little parking lot uh that goes with uh out at Heritage Park. uh where that uh bike trail is kind of off-road bike cha trail. Uh that's associated with that. The next one is a Glenn Oak Commons uh renovation. This is a site plan. Uh we're working with the owners of uh of that Glenn Oaks. It's right across from the hospital where the church is refurbishing right now. Uh it used to be uh what was it? The Nest uh in in that area. It was a grocery store years ago. I can't food line food line where food line was located that's converting right now to a church but then the balance of the rest of that except not CVS all that is going to be redone uh to that same kind of style that the church is is redoing. So significant investment over there. So that's very exciting. Still working with the um Sar County uh school uh system uh on the Henderson football stadium uh Manser Farms uh parking lot. This is just a parking lot next to uh a um um a model home within that new section of Manser Farms. Millstone phase

six lots. This is just a a plaque correction uh dealing with a an easement and a setback that was incorrect uh when it was originally uh submitted. Uh Marilhyde Magnet School Tennis Court. This is still with the Sumar County School System uh with some improvements of a tennis court over at Mel Hyde. Uh and then MTO uh uh partners property uh consolidation. This is 128 Sanders Ferry Road. This is a project that will be coming to you all next uh month in July uh for um a pretty significant strip center over there. And this is consolidating uh two lots into one one lot. It's at Cages in Sanders Ferry. Uh and then uh WA Shival addition consolidation. Uh this 136 and 138 Shival that has to do with what we just approved uh with the site plan this evening. Woodland Park uh that uh previously was called Bared Farms. Uh they're uh uh doing an a staff level amendment uh to their preliminary plat. They're reducing the number of lots uh due to some topo issues by about seven. So they're reducing the number of lots there. And that's everything, Mr. Chairman, of uh of uh projects that are pending with the staff. All right. Next is planning director comments. You have anything else you'd like to add? I will keep it fairly brief, but I do want to I do want to introduce uh our new senior planner. Uh this is Zachary T. Coleman and uh he joined us a couple of weeks ago. Uh we did do a nationwide search uh for this position and uh over the last couple of months we've been doing interviews and uh um Zachary was the uh successful candidate. So we're very excited about having him. Uh and you'll see in the next coming months he'll be leading uh several of the different

staff reports. Uh so he brings a wealth of of uh of knowledge uh on transportation and transportation planning. Also has a lot of uh experience uh in urban planning uh as well as with grants. Uh he previously I might let I might let uh uh Zachary explain just a little bit your background just to give everybody an idea. Hi everyone. Uh happy to be here. Um thanks Keith. Sorry. Yes. Um, so yeah, I'm coming from the Federal Highway Administration actually. Um, so I moved down here. I was there for three years. Um, lot of experience, you know, with grants there obviously on the federal level, but also I'm coming from, um, a county, so I was a senior planner for Orange County, New York for six and a half years as well. Um, so with that, it was a lot of dealing with the MPO, the the transportation side of things, but also with land use and environmental planning. Um, so it was really heavy on on land use reviews. got to work on a plethora of, you know, large projects, small projects. Um, so yeah, I'm excited to kind of bring it to the city level and actually be able to kind of implement everything that I've learned both from the transportation side and and the planning side um and actually get stuff done. So really happy to be here and it's really nice to meet everybody. Good to meet you. Go ahead. Um that's a very impressive um background that he brings to us. um whenever we send out our um highlight notes, can we include some information on this gentleman? Um I'm proud to have him. Welcome. We certainly can do that. And uh uh he's a great addition to the team and you know I I can't I I do often, but I I just can't speak highly enough of the team of professionals that we have on the planning staff. you know, if you compare that around the country, uh to other planning staffs, uh uh you know, uh certainly across the board, uh the

depth of our bench here and each each planning staff member we have, uh they're uh they're superstars and uh and they care about the community and they care about everything that they do. Uh and they put a lot of passion uh in in everything that they uh they do for the planning commission and for the community. And I just I really appreciate that. Um, very glad to have Zachary on board. All right. Well, comments from anybody else? Zack from all of us. We welcome you, ma'am. Thank you. Hope you like Tennessee. I do. All right. Well, with that, I'll entertain a motion to adjourn. So good. All right. We have a motion. Do I have a second? All right. Thank you, Charles. And then all in favor say I. I. Anybody oppose? You're stayain. You want to stay tonight, man? All right. See y'all. Thank you. [Music]