City Council - Regular Meeting

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Regular City Council meeting July 14, 2026 at 630. I'm going to call this meeting to order. Is Pastor Smith here? Come up, sir. He'll lead us in our invocation.

Good evening. So good to be with you tonight. Let's pray. Our living God, we are so thankful for your blessings toward us. Chiefly is our life that you have given us. We thank you for breath. We thank you for the rain that you've given us today. We thank you, Lord, that we are mindful of your grace. We realize, Lord, that we don't deserve any of that, any of your blessings, but we thank you for them in any case. We thank you for public servants. We pray, O God, that you would give them wisdom as they deliberate this evening. We thank you for those who serve in law enforcement. We pray that you would bless them and keep them safe. We thank you, Lord, for the work that they do. We thank you for the fire department. We thank you, Lord, for all those who serve our city and our community. We're so grateful, God, for your goodness toward us. And we ask now that you would bless this meeting with your presence and your grace. In Jesus' name, amen.

Amen. Thank you, Pastor. Please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance.

individual, with liberty and justice for all. God bless America.

All righty.

Member Nelson. I move to approve the minutes of the City Council meetings on April 26th, 28th at 630, May 26th at 530, June 9th at 630, and the Special Council meeting on May 30th.

Second.

I have a motion by Member Nelson, a second by Vice Mayor Cole. Any discussion? All those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries unanimously. Before we get into the rest of our agenda, we have a packed house tonight. Appreciate you all being here. Please keep decorum. If you guys are talking to the people next to you, then we might not be able to hear the person speaking to us. And everybody that's up here has the same frame of speech and should be able to voice their concerns. We want to be able to hear them. With that being said, I would like to ask council if they would move item 12C to the front of our agenda item so we can get it out and address. Member Nelson?

I'd make that motion.

Second. Second. There's a motion by Member Nelson, a second by Vice, or sorry, Member Moscoso. Any discussion? All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed motion carries. So the item 12 C is the discussion on data centers. And I'm sure Mr Parrish is going to come up front and center here in a second. Um, but You know, recently it came up at a council meeting that, you know, there I think there's some misinformation that a data center was coming to Titusville is not the case. What we're trying to do is have a conversation about how to limit their ability to come to the city of Titusville. We don't know what limits we have within the Florida State statute. So we wanted to have that conversation to see what we can do to help protect the integrity and character of our community. Mr. Parrish, I believe you have the floor.

That's your last meeting. You asked me for information about data centers, specifically whether the city could prohibit them or control them in any way. My answer to you about whether they're allowed inside the city zoning districts is that I don't really have a good answer. If someone wanted to put in a warehouse of servers, they could certainly do that possibly in certain zoning districts, especially of our industrial zoning districts. But based on your request, we did do some research and I provided to you in the agenda a a recently approved or signed law. It's Senate Bill 484, data centers, where the legislature adopted specific definitions of what they are. It does not say anything about allowing communities to prohibit them. In other words, we could not find anything that would keep us from prohibiting them. However, if you do want to allow them and be more specific about where they can be, you can do that by adopting an ordinance with some specific regulations. I did include two pieces of information, one from the National League of Cities with recommendations and Urban Land Institute with recommendations on how, what kind of performance standards you can include inside an ordinance. with recommendations of where they should be located. One of these documents suggests maybe coming up with an overlay with other performance standards such as buffer screening and sustainability initiatives to make sure that they are not drawing too many resources. Another big issue about data centers from what I understand is that they use a lot of energy and a lot of water. Palm Coast was the only community that I could find that actually drafted an ordinance that specifically would prohibit data centers, but I couldn't find any evidence that they actually adopted it. There are various communities throughout the state of Florida that have adopted moratoriums, especially in the south. So with the information I provided to you, we'll take any direction from city council, whether to come up with an ordinance to regulate them in some way or come up with an ordinance to specifically prohibit them.

Thank you, Mr. Parish. Member Nelson?

One of the things I would ask you to do or ask us to do, Brad included local guidelines for data center development, which was really helpful in talking about what data centers are, what the problems are going to be with them, what we need to look at. I felt somewhat better after I read it. I am concerned about the amount of energy that they use and the amount of water they can use and so for me I was almost willing to do a conditional use permit so that we know that whatever happens They are not infringing on our water supply or our electric grid. In the paper, they talked about several different data centers actually being alternative energy, solar energy, wind energy, other things. And there was one cooling system that used a lot of water, and then there was a cooling system that did not. So I think that it would behoove us to make sure if somebody wants to do something like this, that we know specifically where it's going to be and what it's going to do. to our community. I think data centers are coming, so I want to make sure that we control them, that we make those decisions. CHAIR BAILET. Does that conclude?

I was just making sure you were done.

Vice Mayor Coole.

I did a little bit of research in the data centers, and there's two types of data centers. One is an AI data center. An AI data center draws the equivalent electricity of about 750,000 homes, and it uses about a million gallons of water a day. And their regular data centers, which use less, but even the regular data centers, the electricity that it draws is about the equivalency of about 75,000 homes. So when I look at that data, I there is no way I think we could even come close to supporting something like that. So, you know, I am definitely against it.

So to kind of let you guys know where my mind was going, I understand looking at the CUP idea. I think a moratorium, not an outright ban, makes a lot of sense. Because my concern is if we outright ban it, I don't want the state to come in the next year and preempt us. know so i think if we just say no for right now and make sure that you know we have plenty of information because you know even to brad's point he found one city that potentially banned him but he can't find where they pass that into law so so you know that's my concern is if we we do try to ban it and then we get preempted down the road but there's a way where we can say no and hopefully not draw too many eyes to the conversation and get preempted by uh tallahassee so it's a way i think we can get ahead of it without you know getting some some blowback from from up up north uh vice mayor cole your light's still on did you read it uh okay thank you remember moscoso

Thank you. I'm not in favor of the CUP. I would be more in favor of honestly banning them altogether. I understand the moratorium, but if the state is going to preempt, it doesn't matter if we have a moratorium or if we have a complete ban on them. One thing, and I know people think that there's been a lot of false information. There were some posting today's where there's actually they're actively looking for jobs in Port St. John for data centers. And so that might not be Titusville. So I'm really glad that we're taking steps to ban them here. But Port St. John, there are neighbors as well. And so we also have to think, like we said, we don't we might not have the water, the electricity for it. But it's more than that. It's the noise that these create. It's the light pollution. There is a lot to it. So My thought would be to ban them completely if the state comes back and preempt us. They do that all the time. We do what we can do. And additionally, if we move forward with that, I would love to, if we're all in a grant, to even send the county a letter just letting them know, hey, this is what we're doing in Titusville. And asking, I know right now the county doesn't give any tax exemptions to it. That's kind of as far as they've gone, but it wouldn't hurt for us as a council to kind of if we're all in agreeance to stand together and let the county know what we've decided here in Titusville.

be interesting to, you know, how did they get the water in Port St. John? Yeah. I don't know how they would do that, but, uh, member Nelson.

I was just gonna say Volusia County, I understand, banned them today. So they have been banned. Um, I think central Florida, somebody in central Florida banned him. So I think we would be okay. The question is going to be, do we do it? C. U. P. And hopefully The state won't try to preempt us. It will be grandfathered in Or do we outright ban? I think, um, talking to Miss Treasure is always easier to support It's harder to support an outright ban.

Well, I guess we'll just take that fight when it comes. Member Stoeckle?

Yes. Brad, I think right now, if a company wants to use more than 10,000 gallons of water, it does come before council. Is that correct?

That's correct, but we do have directions from you to come back with changes to that ordinance, so we are working on that.

Yeah, and that's kind of what I wanted to address is... I'm in support of the ban because I think if something were to happen, Tallahassee says we can't or whatever, we can address it then. But I think this does make a statement that we're not interested in it right now. But that being said, I will say I do also feel protected to some degree that they would need more, way more than 10,000 gallons. So that would come before us. So we do still have protections.

Yeah, we can always refuse to sell them the water. So, all right. So are you going to make a motion, Vice Mayor Cole? I saw you reach in for it. I will call the cards, but since he was reaching for a motion, I'll let the motion be made and then I'll call.

So the motion would be to ban data centers.

Second. All right. I have a motion and a second. City Clerk?

Yes, sir. We have about nine or ten cards. There's one card here from a Mr. Scott Moore. It does say just C. Is this the item you had wanted?

That's me, Scott Moore.

Is this data? Are you wanting to speak on data centers?

No, the airport.

Okay.

C. Thank you so much.

Okay. For the nine or ten folks, the first is Zachary Koppelman.

I was not expecting to go first. Sorry about that. Hi, my name is Zachary Kappelman. I'm from Rockledge, so right up the road. I come here tonight in hope of City of Tice will hear us out, make a standing for prohibiting data centers. There's a large number of people here who are concerned about the data centers, the damage they can do to our environment, which we already have damage from expansions and damage from the shipping to Banana River. Brevard County has only prohibited data centers from the tax exemption, which was brought up earlier. Has left the city deciding on what to do with the day centers. I went high school to be the first to prohibit day centers in Brevard County. So other cities in Brevard County will follow. And then hopefully shortly after other counties around us will follow the same. Uh, in other states such as Virginia, which has the most data centers in the country are showing severe water depletion, quality of air and water. And the past 2 years has dramatically have health issues with people in the city. And the noise and complaints constantly people are having. Day centers don't bring more jobs to bring more destruction to the cities and the environment. And we're now seeing this in the long term effects happening. If we don't act now and prohibit them from coming ties fill to make a stand, then we're going allow this. Not be preventable. Thank you.

Thank you, sir. City clerk.

Riley Koppelman.

Good evening. My name is Riley Kappelman. I'm also from the city of Rockledge. I'm speaking as a resident of Brevard County for my friends, family, and neighbors of Titusville, and I'm requesting every member of this council to prohibit the permitting, implementation, and construction of data centers for all property zones within the boundaries of Titusville. Across this country, data centers ravage wildlife habitats, farmland, communities they are built around. They cause undue stress on critical utilities for all citizens as well as cause heightened health risks from pollution and harmful gases. Data centers add a deep financial burden to citizens due to increased usage of electricity and clean water. One study shows a medium-sized data center, 15 megawatts, consumes as much water as three hospitals. or two 18-hole golf courses, while hyperscale data centers, which are 100-plus megawatts, the largest and most efficient type of public cloud facilities could use even more. A majority of the time, these citizens are left with the cost increases due to heightened utility usage from these centers. Even if measures are set to make sure citizens do not face increased utility prices, data centers still require large quantities of energy they'll have to source with excessive amounts of backup generators. Increased electrical infrastructure and some data centers even rely on nuclear energy to keep in operation. All of these alternate methods add pollution that will affect our soil, air quality, waterways and native ecosystems, agriculture, land and city and residential areas. We've also not considered the community health implications of allowing data centers in Titusville. One study shows continuous operation of high capacity cooling systems including chillers, cooling towers, air handling units, condenser fans, periodic testing of backup generators create persistent industrial noise with internal levels of 70 to 90 decibels and community facing levels that can exceed 48 to 60 decibels without adequate mitigation. 60 decibels from a data center to residence is the noise level equivalent of being in a busy office building. for 24 hours, seven days a week, with no escape. Anything 70 decibels and over will eventually lead to hearing loss. Analysis from research done at the Virginia Commonwealth University estimated that air pollution attributable to U.S. data centers resulted in roughly 5 billion in health-related damages in 2023 and could reach or exceed 20 billion annually by 2028. projecting approximately 1,300 premature deaths per year along with large numbers of non-fatal outcomes such as hospital admissions and asthma exacerbations. These gaseous and particulate pollution are linked to serious health harms including respiratory and cardiovascular disease, various cancers, neurological disorders, conditions such as stroke, dementia, diabetes, and childhood asthma. If we allow data centers We would be opening citizens to the risk of health epidemics in the community as well as unnecessarily taxing or emergency services with the likely influx of 911 calls and transport. We are in a very unique position as SB 484 establishes, sorry.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Appreciate it. City Clerk. Guys, keep the cheddar down. Tony Cipolo.

Tony Shiffalo, the historic Norwood House. I got up this morning at 5 o'clock to watch the launch at 510. It takes 30 seconds from the liftoff for it to clear the horizon for me to see it from my yard or from my interior eastern-facing windows. Five minutes later into the launch, I am still feeling the rumble, and I'm looking forward to the Starship coming from Texas. My concern is the noise of data centers. Five minutes later, the rumble of the Falcon 9 finally subsides enough that I can stop worrying about the pictures falling off the wall or maybe the windows cracking. But what I'm concerned about is the constant hum and noise that I understand comes from data centers. And so I appreciate your efforts to try and forestall putting them here. We already know our ecology is so fragile. Our water, we're begging. We need fresh water and we don't have anywhere to put our waste water and our rain water. It's just a big no on all kinds of reasons. So I really appreciate your consideration and your wanting to put it off and to save us. We've got to start somewhere. I know we can't save us from the Starship, but at least after five or 10 minutes, that rumble stops. Maybe.

Thank you, Ms. Schiffalo. City Clerk.

Elizabeth Baker.

So we have a full house tonight, and I think that's fantastic. People are paying attention to what's happening. There was some confusion about this, and it was not on the people's part. It was as a result of ordinance number 11-2026. When y'all were asked if this could provide for data centers to come to Titusville, you couldn't give an answer. We've come to find out that our city manager, Mr. Parrish, Mr. Gow, we had city staff that signed NDAs that were in reference to that ordinance. So does that company that our city staff on our dime signed NDAs with, are they going to be benefiting directly from the data center that is clearly being built in Port St. John? Otherwise, Indeed would not be advertising for an electrical superintendent for a major data center construction project in Port St. John. And if you guys don't know about that, You should probably start protecting our citizens. Thank you.

City clerk Susan Canada.

Good evening, Susan Canada, and not trying to outdo Mr. Parrish, but, and bear with me, I forgot my glasses. In May of 2026, Governor Ron DeSantis signed Senate Bill 484, which establishes comprehensive statewide regulations for hyperscale and large-scale data centers. While the state allows them, development is strictly controlled by the following rules. There's utility protections, Water usage and permits. And it brings up here local control, and I believe you were interested in that mayor. It says local governments maintain full authority to zone permit or entirely reject data center developments within their communities. And there's transparency rules also. It brings up government agencies are restricted from entering into permanent non-disclosure agreements regarding data center developments, forcing project details to be publicly disclosed. And thank you.

Thank you. City Clerk?

Stan Johnston.

I'm sorry, City Clerk, who?

Stan Johnston.

I want to compare this project to a project that I worked on and worked on, and then it didn't come up. What do you think it is? It's the Clorox plant in Port St. John area, south of town. So the question I was going to ask is, how in the world are we going to supply the water they need? How are we going to do it? Our sustainability plan should should understand is that only we have serious limits on our water potable water ability. We got to also provide for fire demand. I don't know. See how in the world that we could wait that Titusville could could accept the cloaks plant because they want so much water. And the thing is, when you get that much water, how in the world are you going to have water to For fire protection of homes. I don't see how you're going to do it. You've got to have something. Maybe they'll have to build a water tower, their own private water tower or something. But I see problems, big problems with this. And the thing is, I think we've got it already. We've got it here to look at. And that is sustainability issues. Our sustainability report should show that we have limitations. We don't. We don't. I don't know why we don't. We don't have a sustainability report on stormwater. We don't have that either, except in saying that everything's fine. It's not everything's all fine for stormwater. So sustainability issues is something that should be considered in this project. And I believe that if you do that, which Susan Canada, she just touched upon it, in that she was talking about water usage and permits. That has to be considered when, when you're making any decisions on this. So I don't see how this can be overridden by any government state of Florida. I just don't see how it can be overridden. I mean, that sustainability is part of our submittals to the state of Florida. through FDEP. So let's get real about it. How are we going to do it? And I appreciate what Mr. Cole had to say. And I'm going to say from another standpoint is that how are you going to put water on a burning house when you got that much water next door taken from you? I don't see you having it. I don't see you can do it. So sustainability is an issue here that should be seriously considered, and I think it should be. Thank you.

Okay, here's a clap. Thank you, Mr Johnson. Okay, city clerk.

Our last speaker, Jennifer Nicole Mullis.

Good evening and thank you for hosting and seeing all of us this evening. And, um, thank you for the research done beforehand and all of that. Um, I'm a new resident of Titusville and there was a statement made that really, really stuck with me, which was data centers are coming, so might as well. And I think that's very incorrect. Uh, if there's nowhere on the books where we can factually find a law being made, Titusville should set the precedents and make that law. um everybody already spoke very highly with good data points and did the homework and brought the receipts how can titusville keep the title of gateway to nature and space when we're going to put all of that ultrasonic sound up in there and ruin the natural habitat and home and safety for that nature like we already gave up some of that to space program which i love space and nasa so okay fine but like really think about that like We will be doing nature a disservice. We'll be doing our residents a disservice, our mental health, our sanity, everything. And so to say they're coming anyway just means, oh, might as well just lay down and die, which is awful and anti-American. No, this is wrong. And we should stand up for ourselves, for nature, our residents, our citizens, and show people that Florida means business. And it's going to start with Titusville if it's not already on the books. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, I don't know where that quote came from of we might as well because I don't remember that. But all the conversations we've had up here was about how we can limit them, restrict them. And as you can tell from the motion being made is to outright ban them. So that is the motion by Member Nelson, seconded by Vice Mayor Cole. And City Clerk, did you have something for me?

Yes, sir. I had two cards set aside that didn't have any identification on what they're interested in for, actually. But I have a Justin Dunlap who did not specify. I need your help to specify where you want to talk.

Petitions and requests.

Okay. I'm just making sure to look out for everyone. Don Blinson.

Stormwater.

Stormwater.

Thank you.

I'll make sure with Cam Dup Caveman.

Is that public?

Okay. And I have the last one covered. Thank you, sir. If you're calling the vote.

Yes. So, again, motion made by Member Nelson to ban data centers in the City of Titusville, second by Vice Mayor Cole. Any further discussion from this board? Seeing none, City Clerk.

Member Moscoso. Yes. Member Nelson. Yes. Mayor Connors. Yes. Vice Mayor Cole. Yes. Member Stoeckel. Yes.

Motion passes. Thank you very much. We're moving on to City Manager. I believe we're on boards and commissions now.

Yes, Sir, we have five items on their boards and Commission. The first one is 6A, the Community Redevelopment Agency. As you were for the last few months, we've had a vacancy after Doctor Acres resignation and since May we've tried every venue that we know of to recruit additional candidates. We currently have just one applicant online are actually active, and that's Miss Hannah Carnes, who is affiliated with the Sunrise Bakery and CRA. She's not here tonight. However, she did want to reiterate that she is very willing to serve on the board and her application is submitted for your consideration for a member at large to the Community Redevelopment Agency for an expired term to expire on September 30th, 2028.

Thank you very much. City manager, city clerk. Are there any cards?

Yes, sir. One card Stan Johnston.

There's some things I'm I talk about and that you don't like me to talk about. and the CRA is a big point. Fact is, I just told you at the last meeting, the four of you, one, two, three, four, not five over here, but I've asked for your resignation. So the same thing goes for anybody who's coming on the CRA, is that I don't want them to support spraying the public with sewage, especially when we have signs around the pond saying, don't touch the water because it's polluted with sewage. In fact, even when we've had a sewage flow at Temple Drive, the city went around door to door and saying, it's polluted with sewage. And it's dangerous. So the thing is, there's an inconsistency with with you guys. And that is that that, uh, my goodness. Since December 2020, you've been saying that somebody in F. D. P has said it's okay to leave the fountains on because it sanitizes the water.

All right, Mr Johnson, your caution for being off topic.

Well, okay, I want the person who is going to be coming into the CRA, I don't want them to have that same policy that you guys have, the four of you, that I'm asking for a resignation. I think it's your liars, cheats, and shysters.

The CRA doesn't address that.

Pardon?

The CRA doesn't address that.

Doesn't address what?

Broken pipes.

Well it addresses people who are in a conspiracy and as far as I'm concerned there's a conspiracy to cover up city's mistakes and errors and we had a boy that was paralyzed and they didn't get much compensation for that but I want us to protect the public and protect the children but spraying people with sewage is It's just horrible, and the CRA should not acknowledge that and accept it. Ms. Moscoso, she's against that, so I'm going to ask Ms. Moscoso. No, I can't ask her, right? I have to direct you. I would like you to consider the person who takes a seat on the CRA. I don't want them to spray people with sewage, aerosol. I really don't. I really don't, because what you are doing is a crime. It's an ugly crime. And if I did that to my neighbor, if I sprayed them with sewage, I'd be in the jail. You know that. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Johnson. Is there a motion to be made? Member Moscoso.

I move to approve Hannah Cairns to the Community Redevelopment Agency for an unexpired term to expire on September 30th, 2028. Second.

A motion by Member Moscoso, second by Vice Mayor Cole. Any further discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. City Manager?

So moving on to 6B, the Historic Preservation Board, and the Historic Preservation Board Semi-Angle Report will be presented by Member Toni Schiffalo.

I'm waiting to hear it. Good evening. Thank you for allowing us this opportunity. During the past six months, your Historic Preservation Board looked into updating the City's Historic Preservation Ordinance by a comprehensive review of demolition procedures for historic resources, evaluating best practices and rewriting the Historic Preservation Demolition Ordinance to strengthen preservation policies consistent with recent state legislation. We invited the over 500 owners of historic property listed in our three city surveys to encourage public participation at our annual workshop in May where Brad Parrish explained the demolition process. There was public discussion on the proposed ordinance by those attending and we will be forwarding ordinance recommendations to council. Based on seminars at a preservation on Main Street conference I attended, I proposed a unit on mid-century modern and the space industry come to Titusville. And lo and behold, the board created a mid-century modern preservation program. And we were reviewing the numerous, numerous... structures of mid-century modern buildings built in Titusville in the 50s, 60s, and 70s. So then we planned and held our 2026 Annual Historic Preservation Board Workshop featuring nationally recognized mid-century modern preservationist expert Morris Marty Hilton from the prestigious Architecture of Sarasota. And so we strengthened our recognition without designation initiative by honoring four residential and commercial properties that exemplify Titusville's mid-century modern architectural heritage. The workshop was well attended, and the award to the Dream Space Coast Apartments, was accepted by a delegation from the corporate headquarters with local staff and residents who spoke about the revitalization of the former Imperial Gardens built in 1965 to house workers at the Space Center. They used to have a little ferry that would come across and land at the building at the riverfront to ferry the workers across. We served refreshments. Earlier this year, your Historic Preservation Board received the 2026 Florida Trust for Historic Preservation Communications and Media Award for our Joinerville and Beyond Initiative. It's quite nice, but small. It's recognizing the city's leadership in preserving and promoting African American history through oral histories, archival research, community engagement, and public education. At that same conference, local historian and board member Kirk Davis received the 2026 Distinguished Service Award, recognizing his decades of leadership and outstanding contributions to researching, documenting and preserving Titusville and Brevard County's African American history. Despite all the accolades, we plan to continue the work to encourage property owners of historic buildings to participate in the listing of their buildings on the city's local historic register and to encourage the preservation of historic and potentially historic buildings and neighborhoods in the city mid-century modern we look forward to a relationship with the newly formed main street titusville as they work to bring recognition and economic redevelopment to our historic downtown and beyond we did quite a lot in six months watch out for the next six thank you thank you mr villa city manager

Yes, sir. Moving on, the next item is 6C, the Titusville Cocoa Airport Authority. And the airport authority consists of seven members. One shall be appointed by the city of Titusville and shall reside within the city limits of Titusville. And the term of the appointment shall be for a period of three years. There are currently two applications on file for consideration. Mr Brian Garrett and Mr Andre Chabot have both expressed their willingness and desire to serve on the board. WITH AN UNEXPIRED TERM TO EXPIRE ON JULY 8, 2028. AND THE ACTION IS WE RECOMMEND APPOINTING ONE REGULAR MEMBER TO THE TIDUSVILLE COCOA AIRPORT AUTHORITY BOARD.

NEW SPEAKER THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CITY MANAGER, CITY CLERK.

NEW SPEAKER YES, WE HAVE TWO CARDS. MR. SCOTT MOORE.

NEW SPEAKER GREETINGS, FOLKS. It's nice to be here, nice to see a couple of people I voted for and good job on the data center. I'm here on the luckiest night of all because it seems like all my fellow citizens, now I'm nervous so bear with me, all my fellow citizens are concerned about noise and that's why I'm here. I've lived over just north of the Arthur Dunn Airport for well over a decade. And when I was a little kid and my uncle was in the Apollo program, my cousin and I would go right by that airport on our bicycles on the way up to get a Coke out of a bottle. Now, over the past year, it's been highly noticeable that something's not normal there because there's way more noise. Now, it starts about 7.20 in the morning, and I don't think y'all are aware of what's going on over there. And it doesn't end until about 515 545 in between there because I've tracked the situation to find out what was going on before I complained. My original complaint was right here to the city of Ticeville into the website. I didn't get an answer. So I then looked into what to do and I found out there's an authority over the airport and I. Went to complain to them, and the website said, fill out the complaint form below. We take noise very seriously. But there was nothing there but a phone number, which I called several times with no return and no answer. So I went to their meeting, a little smaller than this one, and I said, hey, guys, you know, what I've looked into is the fact that these are – flight schools from Emory Riddle University, EPI, Ed Harris, Phoenix Aviation. And they come down in groups of four, starting at 7.20 in the morning, and they loop around, one takeoff after another. And I told the gentleman at the meeting, I said, your rule number one is no touch and go landing. Your rule number two is no flight schools. So I would just like to ask that you enforce the rules. Or if that's not doable, maybe send them down toward Garden Street because the maps they look at don't have houses on them. They have different maps they look at. So I was kind of hoping that would help, but it didn't. So I continued because very rapidly they fixed the website when I told them it was broken. Yeah, that there was only a phone number and I didn't get any calls back. So now there's a form which I've filled out dozens of times. And one time it was the mosquito guy at 930 at night flying 250 feet over my house. Now, I love where I live. You can hear the skydiver screaming all the way down. Ah, the one that dropped in my neighbor's yard. Luckily, he didn't die when he shoot didn't open. He hit a tree and made it.

I'm sorry, sir. I do got to stop you. I still got to stop you in fairness to everybody else because everybody gets three minutes. But this is the first I've heard about it. I will have a conversation with the airport to see what we can do to address it.

You want to have a conversation?

I'm going to have a conversation with the airport. I will.

Okay. I'll call you. Absolutely. Okay. Thank you. I have to go pick my wife up from work.

Thank you. City Clerk, any other cards?

Yes, sir. I believe this is an applicant, Andre Ben Charvet.

Andre, are you here? Yes. My name is Andre Charvet is a correct pronunciation. I've been a pretty much a lifelong resident of Brevard County, mostly in Titusville. I am a pilot. I actually fly out of Arthur Down Airport, which has been there since 1929. Something like that. It's been there a long time. It's been there long before his house was built. I have no ax to grind against the airport authority. I'm interested in aviation. I want to see the aviation community grow. I want to see Arthur Dunn need some improvements. I'd like to see there. I have no ax to grind. I've just always had a lifelong love of aviation and things related to that. I know the airport authority is involved in a lot of other development things where they're trying to utilize the land around the airport to bring industry in. and stuff like that. So I'm very interested in that and that sort of thing, too. I have a grandson taking flying lessons at Tyco Airport down there, so I'm very interested in that sort of thing. So I just appreciate your consideration.

Thank you very much. Is the other candidate, Brian, here or anybody? Not seeing him. Oh, his wife. Would you like to say a few words on behalf of your husband? You don't have to, you don't have to. I was just asking. Okay. Can you come up to the podium so everybody can hear you? You guys can do it together, you guys can do it together. I mean, his application did not say handsome on it, but I'll add that.

Well, I'm biased. So so my name is Julie Garrett. I was born and raised here in Titusville. I won't give you the age. My husband, we met in 2001, got married and been in Titusville. And in 2012, we had to go to California and get a job there. And we're finally back here in Florida. My husband's been in airports for. 30-plus years. Started out as a police officer at Salt Lake City and worked CFO at Sanford, airport director in California, Utah. And back here in Florida, he's currently a director over three GA airports. And he's looking to retire and wants to stay involved with aviation and serve his community. So that was ‑‑ that's what I got.

thank you very much sorry sorry to put you on the spot all right council uh just looking at the applications i think we have two really great candidates here um i i don't know either one of them uh just looking at their their applicant or their applications i think uh mr brian garrett definitely has a very packed resume that could probably be beneficial to to our airport that's uh kind of where i'm leading remember nelson

I would agree with you. I don't know if Mr. Charvet would be interested in any of our boards, any of our other boards, potentially. But I think for me, Mr. Garrett has a really packed resume. So that would be my motion.

I have a motion by Member Nelson. Second. I have a second by Vice Mayor Cole. Is there any further discussion? Seeing none, clerk, call the roll.

Member Nelson. Yes. Mayor Connors. Yes. Vice Mayor Cole. Yes. Member Stoeckel. Yes. Member Moscoso. Yes.

Thank you very much. Congratulations to Mr Bryant. And again, thank you, Andre, for coming. And just so you know, if you have an interest in roads, there might be a committee coming up for you. Not as fun. I know. Right. Talking about roads, city manager.

So moving on to 60, the Titusville Environmental Commission, it's a request for a leave of absence. And regular member William Bill Young requests a two month leave of absence from the TEC meetings for the months of July and August 2026. Thank you, City Manager, City Clerk.

Yes, sir. One card Stan Johnston.

I hope you don't offend you, but I support Mr Young. He's done a fantastic job. He's been doing it for many, many years in the TEC, and he's lived here for many years. So just like Mr. Majak, he was given a several month, what do you call it, vacation or whatever. I think Mr. Connors, not Mr. Connors. Bill Bill deserves deserves this, and he also thinks along the same thing like me and. Miss Mascoto is that spring people was not a good idea. Spraying with sewage. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr Johnson. I just have a question for Mr Parrish. Do we have any quorum concerns with two of them out on leave of absence or or we have? Have we run into any issues with that?

There are alternates that can fill in when a regular member is not available.

I was just curious about attendance and whether we're running the risk of not having a quorum.

We haven't run into that issue yet.

Let's get here. Can I have a motion, Member Nelson?

Move to approve Mr. Young's request for a two-month leave of absence from the TEC.

Second. I have a motion by Member Nelson, a second by Vice Mayor Cole. Any further discussion? All those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. Thank you very much. City Manager?

Yes, sir. Moving on to 6E, the Titusville Environmental Commission semi-angle report. It'll be... presented by Mr. Jason Miller.

Evening, everybody. It's my pleasure to be here again to present our semiannual report. I will say that as far as actual items, the TC has not had, you know, a whole long list of things these last six months. But I think the most significant thing that we've been working on, you all grant us some extra meetings to tackle wetland policies within our comprehensive plan. This has been a huge, huge undertaking. We have been combing through the comprehensive plan, identifying areas where there are loopholes for developers to take advantage of destroying wetlands, ways to protect them, while also keeping those requirements reasonable so that we aren't just shutting down development or we aren't also going against state policies and laws as well. So we have done tremendous work on that. We are hoping to wrap up the last bit of that with our next meeting, which is actually tomorrow. So some of the other things. No big membership changes. We did reelect Mike, my Jack as chairman and Laura Lee Thompson is vice chairman back in January. We did spend a lot of time with the urban forestry management plan, which we were very happy that you all approved, I believe, just at the last meeting. So thank you all very much for that. We believe very strongly that is going to be a big, big positive for our city. We did also look at alternative water supplies. Again, at y'all's request, we looked at the potential for going forward with some studies about brackish water and seeing if we could make potable water out of that. That was honestly a pretty straightforward vote for us, I think, to look at that as an alternative option for potable water. And we did also, with that, encourage looking at aquifer storage and recovery as part of that element as well. Notable presentations. We did make an effort to get ourselves more out in the community these last six months. We talked about that very specifically on the Commission, making ourselves more visible to the community. And as part of that, we attended, several of us attended the Earth Day event at the Enchanted Forest, which was a lot of fun and I think really got the Tidesville Environmental Commission out there a bit as well. And then we also had myself also serve as the chairman of the county environmentally endangered lands program. I was able to update our committee on some potential eels land acquisitions of always some properties here in town that would would really do a lot for conserving some of our wetlands. And then with that, we were able to do a field trip with a large part of the eels selection management committee. with the help of Laura Lee Thompson, who arranged a bus tour for us, and we were able to actually drive around the city and show the EELS Selection Management Committee some of the different properties around town and how they would be impacted by some of these wetlands if they were in fact developed. I also want to throw a few shout-outs to some of the city folks that are helping us out in our meetings, specifically Assistant City Attorney David Melito. He is at every one of our meetings, and I feel bad for him sometimes because he gets asked questions that are legal questions, but you've got to kind of wade through all the layers to figure out where the legality is. So I want to thank him very much for his efforts, as well as Lori Dargy, our Recording Secretary, who keeps us on track. Brad Parrish, of course, from the community developed director. And last but not least, and overwhelmingly, I really, really want to lift this person up a lot. Lily Galio, who is in the back back there. She probably doesn't want to be seen, but. Lillian's state sustainability coordinator and not only she amazing for TEC and what she does to help keep us on track and keep us moving the right direction. She is such a gem for this city. She does so much not only within this building but outside this building volunteer work and everything else. I'm very lucky to be on a couple other communities with her and I just really want to give her a big shout out tonight. So thank you all very much appreciate the time.

Thank you very much, Mister Miller. City attorney.

I just have to echo what Mr. Miller said, which David loves the committee, by the way, and he volunteered for it. He wasn't a volunteer. He volunteered for it. So he really loves it. Thank you for acknowledging him.

All right, ladies and gentlemen, we're at the time of petitions and requests from the public. But before we get into that, any discussion around flooding or stormwater that is on our agenda on item 12 B. When we're gonna have this conversation So this is petitions and requests from the public non agenda items. So with that being said Who wants to go first?

Hi friends You know, I have some history here. Um, I was a gentleman that's been here openly carrying a firearm while fishing. Um, I have deep talk. Well, not deep ties. I don't know him that well, but Your ex chief. Wow. Major tiny over here and Sergeant Anderson. I have I have met them and they wanted to, you know, basically violate my constitutional rights. I had a problem with that. So now we jump forward to what, like three weeks ago with John Lau that you guys fired, right? Because in your policy because he refused that taking that that little breathalyzer drug or whatever. Well, under 316.1932, it is a crime. It's a second-degree misdemeanor for anybody to refuse a breathalyzer. That law got put in place in 2025, and here we are with a police chief that rolls over a $7,000 Tahoe that all these people in the back paid for. And then we've got Titusville PD. They didn't even have jurisdiction. I have almost two hours of body cam footage. Brevard County Sheriff's Office showed up first. They were the ones that should have been creating that whatever. Titusville showed up because it was their chief and was like, nah, guys, nah, don't worry about this. We got it. We got it. We'll just wait for FHP. Well, then FHP showed up. And then guess what FHP did or Titusville did? Nah, FHP, we got this. We're going to take over this investigation. But for some reason, when Lau went to the hospital and he refused, how come Titusville didn't arrest him? I look at these cops. I look at the guy over there on his phone. Yeah, you, Major Tiny. Yeah, why didn't you arrest Lau that night? How come this guy is still walking around? I had to go through a DUI. Do you know what I went through? $10,000, and that's been almost four years ago. What makes him so special? Why isn't anyone... You need to reach out to Brevard County Sheriff's Office and say, hey, go arrest him. You need to reach out to FHP because I've called all of them. The day that it happened was the same day. I've got recordings of all the police time that I've talked to these people. I'm like, why isn't he arrested? Here's the statute, 316.1932, a refusal... is a second degree misdemeanor. And you guys wanted to frigging violate my constitutional rights here? That guy over there in the corner on his phone, balls deep in it. Yeah. Thank you, sir. They wanted to violate my rights and I won't ever let this go.

Have a seat. Thank you. Next.

May I bring a little more lightheartedness to it? I'd like to share about the amazing food program that Hope for Brevard made happen for several weeks this summer. I had the honor and privilege of helping cook, pack, and deliver these meals multiple times. I delivered door to door a few times, and I also took and delivered to Emerald Place once. What an amazing opportunity for our community to come together. from the concerned citizens to park avenue baptist to the high school students doing missions from alabama what a remarkable undertaking those weeks of feeding our community was while stacy lincoln was always saying we and never me he was the key participant in making those meals available for delivery three days a week for kids in the additionally the additional Elderly in our community tray from hope for Brevard deserves so much credit for seeing this need and bringing action to meet the need. I know there were discussions of the possibility of shutting these efforts down, and I'm grateful for the few weeks that they have helped provide limited meals for our community. I personally know two of the families that I delivered to on my route. Personally, I know their appreciation. For being able to feed their kids and lighten the burden of this summer. This I hope that this initiative is again. Provided for next summer and I hope that there's more support from our community for hope for Brevard.

Thank you. Sir, take the mask off.

All right, I will do so under duress. If you are violating my civil rights, I would like to have an ordinance of I cannot be in costume, please. I will see the attorney. We all must be on the same standards. We have so much corruption in this place. My eyes were opened up by you, Mr Mayor. Right now I'm waiting to see whose billboards gets baby killer wrote on them. I believe that was your idea. We've had enough of this corruption in Titusville. Now the four Judas four, Sarah, you should take the powder, your nose little shiny dear. I'm sure you're hungry because I watched you eat. I don't think we eat in the hall here, but you're special too. You buddy. The three horsemen are coming into this freaking council. They're going to clean, and your dirty little game's going to be soon over, buddy, because we've had enough. Mr. Lau, I'm sorry. He does need to be arrested. He needs to pay the same penalties that anybody else that gets a DUI should pay. You refuse? He ain't special. I appreciate all the time and service he's had. I do. But he has to be held to a higher standard if he's going to be out on patrols arresting other people and holding them. There is no reason for the corruption. And this was a blatant corruption. Now I understand our law enforcement don't want to bust the big boss. They have their trust with him and everything. But the law is the law. And you shouldn't forget it. We all must be held to the same standards. And when it don't, that's when we get this craziness. It's over. You gotta stop. These people that's been in this council for the last 10 years, we need to shuffle the deck and get rid of it. I'm sorry, Mr. Manager. But you need to go, you didn't say anything when you were the assistant manager for 10 years. We want a forensic audit. We've had enough. We want the thieving out. We want the people sleeping in trucks done. We're not paying for all these new vehicles to ride around in circles marking time when one guy digs and four guys watch. And I've had enough of it. You haven't seen me in a while. I've tried to keep my mouth shut in hopes you would start doing the right thing. There's only one person on this council that holds my respect. And I'm looking forward to seeing you carry the big sword to boot them out, baby.

Thank you. Next. Oh, I think.

There's a couple of items here. First of all, my name is Greg Hollinger. I've lived here about 47 years in Tville. Now I live out Salt Lake outside of town in Mims. That's where a lot of the water is going now. But nevertheless, I just want to thank everybody here. Everybody. the 250 years that we have been blessed with to be able to have a governance that people can get up and sing and dance and shout and still we put up with each other i thank i thank the police officers i thank the chief that made a mistake in his life because i made him too and i thank everybody that we're here today because God has blessed us to live in a country like this. And I just, I'm thankful. Now, to all of you, I've got to say this. I've got some fixes for some of this if you want to listen. Now, one of them is a school zone ticket fiasco. You know, the police have tried to do well and protect the kids. If you really want to protect the kids, don't give tickets after the fact because a child could be run over and then a person get a ticket. Let's put speed bumps up there, okay, and let's make one statewide rule 24-7 because the kids are at those schools after school. We're not functioning in wisdom at all. We're functioning like a bunch of people that want to make laws that affect elderly people that don't even know that the speed limit changes on Hopkins three times in a day. In a day. These are people who can't get out of Target and find their car. Come on now, let's make things simple. And for the police department, I bet these policemen here, I bet they have to take drug tests. I bet they have to take alcohol tests. So why not just all the managers, too? That would fix it and may have saved our chief of police some embarrassment, too. So why don't we do this? Why don't we make simplicity a real point in our lives, all of us? And as far as this data thing going on, folks, I did lobbying in Tallahassee about three years ago. And Mr. Cole, you might remember me being here with a bunch of elderly people. I lobbied for elderly people getting kicked out of trailer parks. And you know what I found? Tallahassee is just like Washington, DC. I'm going to tell you folks right now, they're coming after you with this data thing. There's nothing you can do about it. You're going to have to get with a bunch of cities and towns like us, and you're going to have to bond together because they're going to come and they're going to hit you with the laws they've already hit you with. You know they have usurped your ability to run your own town. You know they've made laws in Tallahassee to do this. They have a lot of money. They're going to come do this over this data thing. Get ready. Go to battle about this. Get with the people here. Let the people get with you. Get other cities involved because they're coming, and they got a lot of money, and they're coming through the state. Okay? They're going to do this. Now, this is another thing. Playa Linda, you got the two wealthiest men out here in the world, and they're going to launch the biggest spaceship in the world. Trade. Make a business trade with them. We want an aquatic center to take our beach from our future generations.

Start making business deals that are good for all of us.

Amen, sir.

So June 24th, Chief Lau had an accident in a 2026, I believe, Chevy Tahoe with an open container of Kettle One vodka in his vehicle. That was a city-owned vehicle that we all paid for. And he didn't see charges. And I'm not happy with that. I know a lot of people are not. But it doesn't negate his career. And I'm sure that Chief Lau did some wonderful things throughout his career. The problem is is that there's no mention of it in here. You guys aren't talking about it. We're trying to keep this quiet and we're just gonna move on to the next thing. So I'm here to ask for us to start putting in motion a national search to find a new chief. The chief before him unfortunately left because of DUI. There's clearly something wrong with our culture. There's something wrong here. So we can't continue to pick from the same crop if it's making the populace sick. We have to have a national search to find a new chief. I know it's going to be a big process, but it's going to be a healthy process. And it'll be a process that provides some transparency for the people here in the city. And we deserve the best that this country has to offer. We've got to stop doing the same thing over and over and over again. That is literally insanity. Thank you.

You can call me Caveman.

I'm from Central Florida. It usually takes me about A minute and a half before I can see the space shuttles launch from this side of the coast and I've never gotten over here and recorded a space shuttle launch. So when I heard the Artemis to mission and its launch, I wanted to get over here and I wanted that historic event to be the first video of a space shuttle launch that I record as a videographer and a video journalist and. While I was waiting to record, I had to run to my truck for something. I think there were over 3 million people here that day to watch the space shuttle launch. I don't remember exactly. It might have only been a million. But there were hundreds of thousands of people with cameras. Well, on my way back from my truck, I see an officer helping a disabled car get out of the road. So I decided to go over there and record. I didn't say anything to this officer and he walked to his car and I noticed that he had a female in his car dressed in plain clothes. And he told this female, let me read it so it's the exact words that he said. He said, Try to help someone on the side of the road and you get Mr. I hate cops over here filming. Well, filming cops is a constitutionally protected activity. You know, it doesn't mean that you hate cops. You just recording public officials. You're allowed to do that. Um so The cops started telling me to get back in a bunch of acting suspicious about who was in his car. So I started in an investigation to find out who that person was. It was a female. Well, she took pictures of me, so I wanted to. I found out that she was worked for the police department, actually, and They won't tell me her name so that I can do a proper records request and get copies of those pictures, those public records that she created. And they're denying my request, saying that there's no records, right? Because I can't provide a name. There needs to be something in place where these people have to identify. You can't just be a public employee and do something and not be held accountable, you know, because you won't give them your name. Well, that's that, you know, I don't have much else to say about that. I spoke to the records clerk in the city hall earlier and hopefully she takes care of it. The only thing that I have to say about the chief of police is, you know, you can't be out here enforcing laws if you're not going to obey them yourself, you know, and that goes for any officer. And that's what I tell officers, you know, we expect you to do a job and do it to a higher standard. You know, you're out here taking our freedom and our finances and you're not being held to the same standard. It doesn't seem fair. I appreciate you all letting me talk and you all have a wonderful city.

Thank you very much.

Yes, sir. How y'all doing this evening? My name is Tim Curtis. I'm running for city council.

I've lived here my whole life.

65 years. I ain't never heard such baloney in my life. Four horsemen. I want to know exactly what you meant about that horseman. Okay, because I put on my Facebook that I felt there was a Gestapo trying to take over our city. And I named three of them.

Problem is, I want to Mr. Curtis, Mr. Curtis, stop. Please address your concerns of the diet.

I wonder who the fourth horseman is. I'd like to name them horsemen who I think they are.

No, we're not going to get into it.

Okay, we're not going to get into any names? Yes, sir, I'll respect that. But I can tell you right now, I watched wrestling when I was a kid, and I've seen what happened at the Four Horsemen. Okay? I'll be daggone if I'm going to sit around in a town that I love, that I've had a business here for 40 years, and watch it go to the pot. Now, y'all may watch some of my stuff and think it absolutely hilarious, but instead of getting stressed out, It's time to get down to business. And I said, I might as well make it funny. Okay? I've got over 2.9 million people viewing this election. And I'm going to bring it because I'm going to find out exactly who the four horsemen are. Thank you.

Thank you. Next. All right. Are you coming up? I'll, yeah. So I'm going to get him and then I'll get you.

Yes, sir. I just got something quick to say, um, order. Most of us know the county screwed up what used to be called Redneck Beach or whatever you want to call it down there. We're all in occurrence with that. However, I was up in Volusia County and they have a deal that if you are not part of Volusia County, you have to pay, I think it's 10 bucks to park your truck or trailer there. We have a bunch of jet skiers to come over from Orlando every weekend and utilize the place. Might be something for you to check out, whether it's us, whether it's the county and say, hey, 10 bucks if you're not part of us. Because I will tell you, every time I take my boat out, I'm bringing trash bags. Because when I hit some of these islands, they're not picking up after themselves. It's really getting ridiculous. You're trying to make things better and it's not working. But I just figured you'd like to know what Volusia County is doing. So it can be done. What was your name, sir?

Dan Leggett. Dan. Nice to meet you. Appreciate the comments. And Dan, to your point, I brought that issue up before the county because they own Parrish Park and some of the other parks. We only have eight in our city. of our city parks, and I asked them about the idea of charging for parking to non-residents, because they come over, they watch our launches, they trash our parks, they drive on our roads, they buy a Diet Coke at 7-Eleven on their way out of town. That's not helping us, and then our citizens have to foot the bill to clean up the mess. um so i don't think the county has really kind of supported that idea but i would love to take that up for our specific parks uh specifically for our city because i think it does make a lot of sense where you know if you're a city of titusville resident or water paying customer we could work out the logistical details but you know i think it would be very inexpensive to do if you look at coca village they have those little It doesn't take a lot of infrastructure, but it can definitely help, you know, offset the cost of our residents. So thank you for bringing that up. Sir.

Mark Lufgren.

And I really need some help with stuff that's not being done that needs to be done because it's the responsibility of the city. My current living situation is I have people that are riding these stupid ATVs and many bikes up and down the street for hours at a time. I've been to the police department multiple times. The last two times I've asked to speak to a manager. I take a laptop with my surveillance video of it to show it to them. They tell me to call. Saturday I call and they show up and there's three of them out there in the driveway next door talking to people and they just allow the kids to keep going back and forth in the driveway and they leave without doing anything. So it goes on for hours and hours after that. And I face retaliation anytime I call the police on these people next door. It started up, they'll sit there and do a burnout in the driveway to turn the radio up really loud, the rap song with the lyrics shotgun at my side. So I call a second time and they show up and do absolutely nothing. And then the retaliation after that is they start riding the ATVs and the mini bike right through my front yard. I've been down there at least a couple of times to talk to code enforcement management because I have to deal with these cars and trucks with no tags, junk keys that are stored all over the property. There's tires all over the property. There's concrete blocks stored on the property. The junk just sits there. There are people that work on these vehicles like as a job, and it goes on till midnight or later. Power tools going on after 10 p.m. I am tired of it. I've been to every one of these agencies multiple times and nobody will do anything. When is something going to be done? I live in a residential neighborhood. It's not supposed to be an off-road park. It's not supposed to be an automotive shop. It's not supposed to be a junkyard. It is not supposed to be a storage lot. Do you understand me? I'm getting close to the point where I want to sue. This has been going on for years. I'm done.

What street do you live on?

Huh?

What street do you live on? On what? What street do you live on? What street do you live on?

Oh, Forest.

Forest. City Manager, can you address this?

So I'm not aware of this issue, but obviously we'll look into it.

And I'm telling you, I have surveillance video to back every claim I make all the way back to 2017.

Sir, I understand that. I'm addressing him because we can't direct staff, but the city manager is very responsive.

He will immediately work on it.

All right. So city manager, you hear the concerns. You're going to provide a resolution. Order. Sir, we're getting your concern addressed.

I live in the beach now.

Mr. Johnson.

Stan Stan Johnson, professional engineer and. And it's kind of OK. What I'm trying to say is, is that like the fire chief and chief of police is that I'm supposed to protect the health, safety and welfare of the public. That's what it says in Florida statutes. And I'm licensed to do that. So and also you've seen me do something like this wave wave dollars in the bill said, Listen, I'll give you $50. Can be a little bit more quiet. I'll give anybody $50 if they can get a professional engineer. And there's 40,000 professional engineers, over 40,000 in the state of Florida. So if you can get someone who disputes me and says it's okay to spray people with the sewage aerosol that comes from the fountains, $50. Anybody? Anybody in this room? Anybody in this room? If you can get the police chief or the fire chief, I'll give you $50. They'll come up here and say it's okay with these four people. In other words, Nelson, Connors, Cole, and Stoke will say it's okay. It's okay to do that. It's not okay to do that. It's a crime. So we have what we have right now is what is described as conspiracy. And I read this to you just recently from Black's Law. It says as follows. It's a conspiracy. A combination or Confederacy between two or more persons formed for the purpose of committing or by their joint efforts, some unlawful or criminal act. And you all know about that. In fact, is is that you were sued. You were sued for some young boy, a teenager who did a stand up paddleboard while we were dumping sewage in the river. And he's what? He's paralyzed. I don't know if he's still alive now or not. That was a suit because of criminal activity. that you guys doing. And what I'm saying is that the four of you are, as far as I'm concerned, is you've targeted yourself. So I offer to anyone that I will come to court and testify against you for your character witnessing. What you've done is committed crime. And it's a serious crime. Because I've seen too many people die by gunshots, drowning, other reasons. So I just don't like to see it happen. I don't like to see it happen in my family. I don't like to see it happen in my city. And I've asked your resignation because of that, because it's been going on since December of 2020. Same old thing is what I hear from Nelson saying is that, well, some anonymous person told me and told us or city manager that it's okay to leave the fountains on because it kills the bacteria. Well, when it blows in people's faces and homes and stuff like that, that doesn't help them either.

So you've seen this before.

Thank you, Mr Johnson.

This is what I'm talking about.

All right, have any questions.

Have a seat. It still had. I don't know why it buzzed, but it still had time on the clock when you when you said that I don't understand what the call it buzzed and I said have a seat please.

But at my time wasn't up when when when you said that no, it was pretty spot on.

Not according to this clock right here and then you got a problem with the clock.

Anybody else for petitions or request?

I like to hold my time until you guys get the yes, correct. Does everyone have the documents? We can start. Yeah, I only had three. I apologize. I didn't have enough paper at home.

Good.

Let me know when you're all ready and we can proceed. Okay. Good evening to members of the council and townies. My name is Ryan Laszlo. The first image that I have in your packet is an image that shows Port St. John down to Palm Shores all the way to Satellite Beach and over to Cape Canaveral. In this vicinity, there are 42 combined flock cameras in this area. The second page is the city of Titusville, where there's a combined 49 plus one in Southern Mims. The third page shows that we have seven flock cameras pointing at parking lots. And I would like to know if these are license plate readers, as we were advertised by this by flock itself into adaptation and use in the Titusville police, what traffic infractions are we going to get from a McDonald's parking lot? Also, what traffic infractions will we get from a Lowe's parking lot, a Taco Bell, or the back of Lowe's where apparently there's a camera facing the rear of the building? The fourth item in there is a list of different counties towns within the vastness of this country that goes on to the second page of places that have canceled their flock cameras due to issues with surveillance with not safe data concealment and storage with leaking data from internal to external sources like FBI outside County police. If you can see on the start of Evanston, Illinois, it was canceled and later issued a cease and desist after flock allegedly reinstated cameras without permission. I would like for this to be recognized that they don't recognize anybody's authority, not yours, not the police, not the legal team. They will do what they want as long as these are instated in the community. On the next page, we can go to San Romano, California. It was terminated for misleading claims about data retention and sharing. The rest of these two pages are filled with these things. The next section of that will go to the reasons that contracts were terminated. Unauthorized federal assets like access through ATF, ICE, Air Force, GSA, misleading or unclear data storage settings, privacy law violations, failure to disclose, community backlash over surveillance expectations. Then we go into the actual... The actual lawsuits that have been filed in counties against this. And if you look at the bottom where it says flock device detection, patent filings in that or two, I would like to very boldly exclaim detection of wireless devices near vehicles and associating devices with vehicle movement patterns. This is not something of we're just looking at license plates to see if we're catching something speeding. This is data. this is data acquisition this is getting everyone's data not just mine or the people here it's all of yours the police chiefs everybody's so if we're going to spearhead on not allowing data centers in the community can we stop data collection and terminate this contract or at least not renew it thank you for your time thank you very much

Good evening. I'd like to echo the sentiments of the speaker before me. My name is Connor Bramhall, and today I'd like to talk to you about a concept I encounter a lot in my job as an engineer called scope creep. Scope creep is when the original definition of some system or project begins ballooning out and out as more requests are made and more features are added until the utility of that system is far beyond anything that it was originally envisioned in doing. This is a concept I believe applies to a topic that I've talked about in the past, like on the 26th of May, when I came in to voice my opposition to purchasing a contract with Axon for more ALPRs in police vehicles. I voiced my dissent by talking about my dislike of the existing contract with Flock. Now, as much as I don't like these agreements, you've bought into these agreements into the features that they provided at the time. But more features are going to be added in the future as the scope inevitably grows as all tech companies love to do. 404 Media reports that a company called Singletrace is looking to add Bluetooth and RFID monitoring to LPRs in partnerships with companies like Flock. Things that can ID cars without a license plate, ID people within those cars individually, and even ID people as they're walking by using the Bluetooth fingerprint on their phone. Something that the Supreme Court has already used, has already ruled as unconstitutional because phone location data requires a warrant in order to be given to police. And why are all of these being seen more and more on parks and trails if they're only meant to scan license plates? With face scanning, it's claimed to not be a part of the new Condor model that Flock provides that can find a pedestrian moving and lock onto them, but then what makes that different than a normal camera? Why are you buying it? Features like this can be added solely at Flock's discretion because of your contract, Section 2.11. Flock has sole discretion to add any features they see fit, features that will be available to everyone who buys into the system, other police departments you share information with. Again, it doesn't even have to be any allegations of corruption with our police system. Every police department will have access to this if you choose to share it, which I have learned you do. The federal government has already been reported to have used the system, and due to their incredibly poor cybersecurity record, this will be open to hackers to use as much as they would like as well. Misuse is already terrible. There's cases of even policemen stalking other policemen of the opposite gender using these systems. Officers already over-rely on these, using these to get into incidents where people will get injured in a confrontation with police because of an IED by a flock camera that was wrong. Please, please consider terminating this partnership with flock under Section 6.6 of your contract before the residents of Titusville no longer have any Fourth Amendment protections. Thank you.

Petitions or requests? Are you coming up, sir?

Good evening, Council Members. My name is Justin Dunlap. I'm a new member to Tidesville. I'm a farmer out of West Palm Beach. Moved my operation up to northern Tidesville. I may have met some of you through some of the meetings and things we've done for planning and development. I would like to just... make a petition or request to start getting agriculture in the city of Ticeville because currently there is no zoning for agricultural entities to be able to bring alternatives to data centers instead of, you know, polluting. We can do the opposite and be able to help the community thrive in a healthy manner and help preserve and have a sustainable future for the city of Ticeville. So I would like if there's any way that we can petition or make a special request that we start adding that to the zoning requirements or zoning information that we have in the city of Titusville. My second request is for my self purpose of my farm. I would like to try to push along our public hearing to transfer our current residential zoning to you so we can farm legally on our property. Um, and then, um, and from that, I just another request for a stay for any kind of code variances. Um, necessary for us in the meantime, because we have already had to move our farm from West Palm Beach to Titusville. Um, so in current state, we may already be filing code violations, even though we're trying to be responsible farmers in that situation. So We've already got the notice, so. But anyway, so yeah, in that situation, yeah, I would like to try to ask for some sort of stay or variance until that hearing is made so we're not racking up thousands of dollars. Appreciate it.

That's it. Thank you very much, sir. I actually made a video about it. I was going around. I feel like my report terms and it turns into the stupid code of the week. But one of them was the fact that we have no I pointed out that we don't have any agricultural allowances in our zoning district. And I think a lot of people would support the lowering of density from the single family home that you mentioned to agriculture. And I think that's something that is worth the discussion. So I appreciate you bringing that to attention and we'll see what we can do when we get into the discussion.

Yeah, and if there's any way that I can help, you know, I'm a new community member, so if I can help with sustainability factors, I do have quite an extensive engineering background in sustainable agricultural practices and helping nonprofit and food development and all the rest of that as well. So I appreciate it. Thank you, guys. Thank you very much.

Thank you.

Yes, sir. John, I just wanted to talk about two issues, if I could. One of them is last October during the big flooding there was a resident on North Carpenter Road, who was buried to her neck in water and she was rescued by somebody out of the car who is actually my cousin who rescued her out of the car and they became good friends. But the other day, this is the same thing. Another car stuck in the same location, buried up to its windows. So, like, I don't know, you guys blame it on the county. It's back and forth. But how can we work this out? Can we come up with an app where we can spot things, people can take pictures, make it easier for you guys to do your jobs rather than just kind of to try to figure out what things are. That's the one thing. And then the last time we left off, we talked about Palantir and Peter Thiel. You guys went ahead and voted against it anyway, but did anybody go home and do the research on what I had said? Or no? No. Okay, why would that be? Questions, good answers. All right, have a good night. Maybe just go ahead and go research. See what they're up to.

Thank you very much, sir. I do believe we have an application on our website to report concerns, but yes, the cities and the counties need to intertwine their data a little bit better, and Carpenter Road is a county-owned road, like several others, like Barna, Sisson, Box Lake, Derry, and it's definitely a cause of contention, I can tell you, because we're sitting here with our hands tied, and we really would like to do something. Please shoot me an email and I'll reach out to the county and try to figure that out. Petitions or requests? Seeing none, we're moving on to the consent agenda item. Anybody like to pull any items from consent? Seeing none, city manager, please read them.

Yes, sir, I'll read the titles for the record. 8A, Trail Town Amenity Strategic Plan. 8B, Water Allocation Permit Tranquility Phase 3. 8C, Public Works Vehicles and Equipment. 8D, Approved Tyler Technologies Contract Amendment Number 3. 8E, Resolution Number 13-2026, Adopting the Indian River. 8F, acceptance of easement from parish landing. 8G, acceptance of easement from NAP Commerce A, LLC. 8H, adopt the urban forestry trust resolution number 14-2026. 8I, the budget amendment for urban forestry kickoff tree planting. 8J, budget amendment for SHIP grant program 2526. 8K, Acceptance of easement from Forest Glen. 8L, liquid aluminum sulfate. 8M, task order MHT007, over the water audit and consumptive use. 8N, the Opioid National Settlement Fund distributions. 8O, approve resolution number 15-2026. and that is to amend the city ship 2025-2028 LHAP, 8P, the digital storage expansion, 8Q, use of source well contract for street sweeping, and 8R, the budget amendment for the purchase of a replacement UAS drone for community relations.

Thank you very much, City Manager, City Clerk.

Yes, sir. We have about 13 or 14 cards. Kicking it off will be Tony Shiffalo, item 8A.

Tony Chivalo, Tropic Street. I ride my bicycle a lot around town. So I've been following this plan for a little while. Another one of my notebooks. I want to speak about the East Coast Greenway from Maine to Key West once again. And the two blocks of it in Titusville that end at the railroad tracks and go into no man's land. I spoke with Brad about the Kimley Horn vision. You know what I feel about them. Anyway, they completely miss this very important coastal trail, eastern coastal trail. And I know it's for the CRA, but I just want to point out that what Brad assured me, this is just a strategic plan. It's a concept plan. Because when we get Broad Street... renewed and revisited and when the CRA is going to start actually implementing the plan by putting the little benches and the trash can and sometimes the shade at various spots. I want us to remember that this trail that goes from Main to Key West ends at the railroad tracks at Main Street and picks up again two blocks later, and we need to put some of the amenities in that direction. So I just want to point out that even though it's very detailed, it's a plan. It is not the blueprint. It is not the blueprint. Correct. It is not the blueprint. It is only an idea and we get to actually then start putting amenities where the bicyclists need them. Thank you. Thank you. City clerk.

Uh, yes. Next is casing orange items.

H and I, I would bet that she's here to speak in favor.

Casey Lange, Titusville Tree Team. June 9th, the City of Titusville adopted this very impressive urban forest management plan and I wanted to say thank you very, very, very much. This plan will reduce temperatures in our city, will reduce stormwater runoff, polluted runoff into the lagoon, will increase wildlife habitat and will actually improve our property values. This will be a great boon for our city. And then on, I believe on the 23rd, we're going to have a kickoff where we're gonna plant trees at Sandpoint Park. JoLynn Nelson has wanted trees along the exercise trail heading to Neptune Statue for ages and now we're going to do it. So this will be 36 trees, I believe, will be planted at Sandpoint Park as part of the Urban Forest Management Plan. The resolution that you have written is absolutely wonderful, renaming the Landscape Trust Fund, which is a mitigation tree fund, to the Urban Forest Trust Fund so that this can be implemented. So I want to thank you very much, and I'm looking forward to seeing it all go forth. Thank you very much.

Thank you.

Secret Elizabeth Baker B&R.

She said B&R.

So B&R are the drone and the water allocation. OK, just making sure. I understand that the request, I'm going to talk about AB, remeets the requirements of this ordinance, but I think that we need to look at the bigger picture. Request for over 20,000 gallons of water a day on its own really doesn't sound like a whole lot in the big scheme of things. But every time another subdivision comes along, there's another permit. We keep going down that road. And I really just want to know, are we looking at the cumulative impact, and are we really looking towards the future if we're going to continue building, if we're continuing building, bringing large industries in, we really need to be paying attention to each one of these oh it's just 20 000 gallons it's just 5 000 gallons it's just 10 000 gallons it adds up real quick just ask blue origin um as far as the drone goes a 66 6 650 price tag seems awfully inflated normally a a drone used for marketing departments is going to run one to two thousand dollars maybe up to three. Almost $7,000 strongly implies that this city is buying an enterprise-grade drone equipped with advanced technology, thermal imaging, powerful zoom. You know, we really have to wonder what it's going to be used for. Is this only going to be for marketing, or are we going to end up with our police department spying on us? What's going to happen there? We don't know. It's not out of the question for things like that to happen. They happen all the time in other cities all over America. So we pay attention to what's happening here. And that's a lot of money for a drone when I really think that we have some other priorities in this city that really need to be paid attention to, up to and including getting a forensic audit done.

Thank you. Thank you. City Clerk?

Next is Keith Edwards. Five items. C, I, M, R, and P. This drone.

This is something else. We need a drone for PR, public relations. Well, the city of Titusville, us citizens, I believe we want to know what our city's doing because there's been too much done in the dark. Now, you want six grand for a fancy drone for PR. Well, Mr. Mayor, if you want to make pretty movies and have it fly over, I can't swallow that. But I'll tell you what if you want to give it to our law enforcement officers so they can go out and they can track down the drug dealers in the drive by shootings and stuff like that I support them absolutely because we need to clean up our tail. Or even better than that, if we needed one of those fancy drones to monitor the storm and the ditches and so forth like that to try to help people save their homes from being homeless. You know what I mean? Be able to find the problem areas and then storm drains. I think those are great ideas. Joe by a dog on Chinese one, you know, you know, for a couple $100, you're already pretty enough, you don't need something to really douse it up. I'm good. So I'll relinquish the rest of my time. Thank you.

Thank you.

So you could Darcy bear item 8 or I'm sorry says item 8 only not sure which item.

So my concern is on the consent agenda in general, and it's mostly because I don't understand how it works. But as a member of this community, I have read these packets and they are lacking and vital information month after month. There are requests for new trucks, new machines, new contracts. to enter into and listed is any of this listed in the budget as a council. I believe you should publicly be asking more questions. Maybe you receive more information from staff, but these are our tax dollars and these agenda package should have more information in them. Are all these requests already in the approved budget? And if so, why are they on this agenda? And if not, why aren't these things added to the budget? Shouldn't the city manager and city staff be expecting these to be updated and upgraded and adding them to the annual budget each year? As a citizen, I find it incredibly frustrating that the lack of vital information being received in each packet. Two months ago there was a semi annual budget review for the housing authority and the review. There were listed upgrades and all the things that they had done, but there was nowhere in there that had a single figure or number added to the page or the review. As a citizen, I questioned the lack of figures on this report to lastly reading these meetings. minutes after minutes. I know, I know why Stan Johnson get up, gets up here on multiple agenda items and ask questions because there are many questions to be asked.

Thank you.

City clerk, Stan Johnston items, eight a, eight are eight B and eight M

An eight R. Oh, you said eight R. Thank you. Uh, Stan Johnson, professional engineer. Uh, we just looked at 12 C. I'm not gonna go into 12 seat, but but there's this. There's a 20,100 gallons on on 88 B per day per day. And there's, uh Another one. Be Oh, yeah. 8 M is a two and for water audit and so forth. Well, anyhow, Liz B has it is that I think that our motion for 12C to not allow data centers is, you know, it's a good idea in some ways, but I think it's illegal. I think that what you need to do is what I'm asking for is like it's done in eight That is, itemize that for a requirement. In other words, data centers, if they can solve these problems by using liquid nitrogen and other things so they won't have all these hums in our head, then they should be allowed to have a data center. I think it might be illegal what we passed. You got the right. You got the right idea, Mr Cole. I agree with you. But I think that it could have been done more more appropriately. So that's about all I have. I think the, uh, I don't understand. I think I think we've got some good things going here. And, uh, I do. I certainly do. Have concerns about this. Uh this drone because I think that sometimes I'm concerned about some of these people that watch me on drones and my telephone calls. I think that I think they're going to border themselves to death. So that's what it seems like in my place is that I'm just being watched so much and stuff. It's they've got to be bored to death and they get paid too much for that. Thank you.

Thank you. City clerk.

Yes, sir. Our last card is Mr Milton Farrow. Item eight are

Good afternoon. Milton Farrell, 4430 Elliott Avenue, Titusville. I don't see the purpose of the use of the drone, but if it's definitely needed, if there's really a need for it, I can't see spending $66.50 for it when right in our backyard we have a facility that's FAA-mandated And I'm a 14,000-hour pilot who flew and built my own plane, so I know what I'm talking about. We have trainers that can teach. You can get the best drone called a Mavic for under $1,500. So why you have to spend $6,650 is beyond my imagination. I don't understand it. I think you have to be a little more careful with our money, Mayor and council members. And I suggest you do so.

Thank you very much, sir. Mr Curtis. Take a seat. Yep. So Curtis is our director of community relations who made this request to the city manager, which is now coming for Council. And the reason a lot of these things come before Council, even if they're budgeted for, is in the effort of transparency. So Council does have an opportunity to weigh in on monies being spent. Mr Curtis, please explain why you need the drone.

Mayor, council, thank you. Regarding the drone, there's been a lot of talk about using the DJI Maverick or anything else made in China. Unfortunately, federal and state law prohibits us from purchasing those drones. I'd very much like to keep flying the DJI that we bought nine years ago for about $1,700, but it's illegal. So about 2022, we had to purchase the drone that we have now for about $4,000. It has since had some technical issues. It has crashed into a tree a little bit because our pilots, sometimes when we're getting a shot, we misjudge. It happens. Unfortunately, we had to send it out for repairs. The repairs cost $3,375 to repair a $4,000 drone that was bought six years ago. So the only other option we have is to purchase a new drone, and I did a lot of research. We went through an outside agency to try and search on a government contract, and the cheapest drone we found was the $6,650. It is the Parrot Anafi USA. That is a standard drone. It is not the government version. In other words, it doesn't have a lot of the bells and whistles that the next grade up does, which is about $10,000. This one is basic drone for photo and video. Now, with regards to why we use it, well, the intro video to the council meeting tonight, we shot all that with our drone. We also went out in October and shot a ton of footage of the flooding and provided that to public works so they can actually evaluate what was going on, where the issues were, and go out there and try to correct them. We do that on a regular basis. We provide footage for marketing, yes, and also the Titusville Talking Points magazine and the accompanying video. So this drone is actually a very versatile and very necessary item for us to have, and it would be very good for us to have another one to replace the one we have now, because the one we have now, even if I were wanting to spend that much money on a $4,000 drone to repair it, it is now illegal to fly that one as well. It is no longer on the approved list by the state of Florida. Thank you to the state laws. So at this point, my hands are tied. This is the cheapest drone we were able to find. And I hope you guys will see fit to allow us to get this. Regarding the money for it, this money is actually coming out of our operating budget for my division. But because it's over $5,000, I believe, it is now have to be switched over to a capital purchasing account, which requires you guys to approve the movement of that money. The money is already there. I'm not asking for more money. So if you guys have any questions, I'd be happy to help you out with the answers.

Thank you, Curtis. I think you pretty much covered it. All right. No more cards, correct? All right. Member Nelson.

I was hoping Mr body would address item C. The public works vehicles. Questions. Why is that in front of us? That was in the budget, correct?

They're approved in the budget. We just wanted something. When is that big of a purchase? We like to be transparent for you guys to see the purchase before we move forward. And it sounds like we came in under budget. Yes, we didn't need to do a budget amendment for any of these.

Okay, thank you. My motion would be to approve consent agenda items A through R. Second.

I have a motion and I have a second. Discussion, Member Moscoso?

Yes, thank you. First, I just want to address item Q, which is the street sweeping. And I want to thank our ladies and public works for saving us money on that and for outsourcing. That's incredible. So I want to give you guys kudos for that. And then item H, which is the urban forestry trust resolution. And this might be a discussion for the end of the meeting, but It does mention that our fees for tree mitigation are actually it hasn't changed in the past 25 years. So that was one of the things that consultants said that we should look at because it's not actually covering the removal of and the replanting of the trees. And so that might be a discussion we want to tackle on at the end of the meeting. But I just wanted to bring that up as well.

Thank you. Any further discussion? City clerk, call the roll.

Mayor Connors. Yes. Vice Mayor Cole. Yes. Member Stoeckel. Yes. Member Moscoso. Yes. Member Nelson. Yes.

Motion carries. Thank you very much. Um, bear with me one second. Item nine before we move into ordinances. She has like a 10 minute recess. All right, so we're gonna take a 10 minute recess. We'll be back at 8 40. So technically it's a 13 minute recess.

Bye.

I were assuming the regular city council meeting city manager on the item nine a certain nine a is the comprehensive plan evaluation and appraisal report.

And this item is every seven years. We are required to submit a evaluation appraisal report to the state. This year's report was previously. denied or was not approved because of Senate Bill 180 language, which found our submittal to be too restrictive. We are now in the process of overhauling and revising some of the language to be in compliance with Senate Bill 180, and we're ready to transmit it, and Brad can provide any amplifying information on this item.

So we're currently out of compliance with state law because we do not have an approved ear amendment to our comprehensive plan. It was rejected by the state. Their response that when we got the amendment back from them was that it was considered to be null and void. Several of the policies that we proposed were considered to be null and void and others that were at risk. Others, of course, they thought were okay. But overall, they just rejected it. ORC report of what's called an Objections and Recommendations report from the state. So our conversation with them is that this appears to be a new policy or a new rule or a new process. We couldn't even find anything from them, ask them to even cite where this new process is coming from. It seems to be a new action from the state. Speaking with our colleagues, some of them have decided to restart the process, which is what we did. We restarted the ear process. So we did hold a transmittal hearing before the Planning and Zoning Commission with the same policies, some of them not being proposed again and some of them being watered down a little bit. So words such as require. where there's a new regulation or new policy that would be more stringent, according to the state, have not been changed to encourage. On page 656 of your packet, you'll see the beginning of those policies. You'll see the ones stricken through. Those are the ones that were originally proposed. Some of them are not being re-proposed again. For example, access management language is now being proposed again. We may be able to consider that at a future date. Language regarding Florida-friendly plant materials, which was originally stated as required, would now be encouraged. So I won't go through each one of them individually, but that is really the crux of what the amendment states. We'll take any questions from you, but the next step after this is that we'll ask for you to make a motion. to whether you would like to go ahead and transmit to the state this amendment for their review, and once it comes back from the state, everything's okay, there are no objections, then we'll schedule adoption hearings.

Any questions for Mr. Parrish? City Clerk?

There's no cards.

Any discussion? I know everybody's kind of bummed out because, you know, the state's telling us what to write in our own plan, but that's neither here nor there. Member Nelson?

I move to approve the transmittal of the EAR to the State Land Planning Agency.

Second. Motion by Member Nelson, second by Vice Mayor Cole. Any further discussion? City Clerk?

Vice Mayor Cole?

Yes.

Member Stockel? Yes. Member Moscoso? Yes. Member Nelson? Yes. Mayor Connors?

Yes. Motion carries. Thank you very much. City Manager?

Yes, sir. Moving on to 9B, the Comprehensive Plan Amendments, CPA number 1-2026 and text CPA-2026, amendments and transmitting the amendments to the State Planning Agency for review. And this is a request on behalf of Tyco Airport Authority to propose development of a 353-acre planned industrial park. named Space Coast Innovation Park. And Brad Parrish is here to present that item.

So this item is going to require two action items from the council. One is a motion to either transmit or not transmit the A future land use map amendment that is considered a large-scale amendment requires a transmittal review by the state. Anything that's 50 acres or more is considered large-scale. The second motion will be to transmit or not transmit the text amendment to the comprehensive plan itself. So there's going to be two motions here. There are no ordinances involved. It's just these amendments that will be reviewed by the state. If after we receive responses from the state, if there are no objections, then we'll go ahead and schedule adoption hearings before you with those ordinances officially amending the comprehensive plan map and the text itself, and it will include a rezoning ordinance as well. The what's on your agenda is a staff report beginning on page 829 or 828. Excuse me of your packet. It only reviews. the application as consistent with the comprehensive plan. So we did not address the rezoning and master plan portions of this. You'll see on page 829 in aerial, it's going to orient you as to where this property is located. It's 300 plus acres of property owned by the airport authority. On the east side is Grissom Parkway. On the west side is State Road 407. North of that is an industrial area where you see Shepherd Drive. And south of this development is, or this property rather, is the Verona residential development. The Verona residential development does have a condition in it to include a secondary access point going up into this subject property that has not been approved. This is a condition of their development. The master plan that we received does not include that extra access point. I'll point to it in a moment on another exhibit. Because the applicant is asking for a map amendment to replace all the existing land use categories on this property with the planned industrial park land use category, it does require a master plan, which they have provided, and it also requires that text amendment that I mentioned. On page 831 of your packet, I'll briefly go through the background here. There is a portion of this property that does have, I'm sorry, this whole area apparently was annexed in 2002, but there is a portion of it that was rezoned to planned industrial park along State Road 407 in 2010. It's about 73 acres, so it's not the entire property. It was approved with special master plan and special conditions on there, so that's another reason why they have to go through this text amendment to replace that. Because right now, that is what they are required to build. They want to build on that portion of this property. So what has been relayed to us is a completely different design, different layout. So what was approved in 2010 will be replaced and become null and void. The floor air ratio on that portion is 0.32. If you're not familiar with that, that's basically just describing the maximum amount of impervious coverage for a building that you can put on the property. That will be replaced for the entire 350 plus acres with a 0.23 floor air ratio, which I'll point to in the text amendment. Starting on page 832 of your packet, which is the staff report, I won't go through each of the comprehensive plan policies, but we did review what we believe the most relevant policies related to this application, addressed that in the staff report. You, of course, can also identify other land use policies that you believe are important and relevant to this. Based on the findings that we made, we believe the application is consistent with the comprehensive plan. The planned industrial park land use request is consistent with the comprehensive plan. We specifically looked at future land use element policies 1.16.2, conservation element policy 1.6.4, and those address policies related to whether this land use is consistent with industrial policies and whether it's consistent with environmental and wetland policies. The text amendment is on page 840 of your packet. You will see there on that page, which is page 13 of the staff report in red. The policy, actually it begins on the previous page, so it's Future Land Use Element Policy 1.8.14 is what's being amended with the text amendment. You'll see in that table the previously approved development, which I mentioned earlier, of 73 acres called Four Frontiers will be replaced with this new master plan called Space Coast Innovation 3 with a floor air ratio maximum of 0.23. If this is transmitted to the state and we receive their comments, no objections, we'll schedule adoption hearings. This policy in particular and the comprehensive plan will be amended. I do want to mention on page Sorry. Some of the policies that I mentioned earlier about wetlands, I want to point to on page 837 of your packet, which is page 10 of the staff report, you'll see conservation element strategy 1.6.3.2. That talks about five acres or more being a conservation land use. The planned industrial park land use, though, doesn't necessarily require that because there's a master plan involved. And so we believe that based on the planned industrial park policy of allowing a master plan, which then allows you to conserve wetlands inside that same land use without actually having to put it into conservation land use, coupled with another policy that we found in the comprehensive plan, which I want to read to you because it was not put in our staff report. It states in Future Land Use Element Policy 1.16.4, impacts to areas designed as conservation land use designation shall be considered if it is unavoidable due to absence of feasible and or practical alternatives for reasonable use of the land, or the regulations create an inordinate burden on an existing use of the land or a vested right to a specific use of the land, or due to significant site constraint and or practical design modification constraint. The allowable impact shall be based upon site-specific evaluation determination determined through the permitting process conducted by all the regulatory agencies with jurisdictions. I'm going to point to you to some exhibits that will illustrate what I'm getting at. But before I do, I do want to point out that they did provide, the applicant did provide to us their analysis of the wetlands, the conditions of the wetlands. And their proposal of how they're going to preserve a significant amount of wetlands, even though they're proposing to impact other portions of those weapons on the property. As far as concurrency, we reviewed the application for all concurrency related facilities against the level of service standards in the city's comprehensive plan. We specifically looked at traffic and water demands and we looked at, since this is called phase three, there are sub-phases of this master plan. Phase one is the portion along, or the sub-phase one rather, is along the portion of State Road 407. We evaluated concurrency based on phase one. We did not see an issue. We do believe that phase two and phase three will have to be evaluated when projects are proposed at those times. Again, once this comes back to you, we'll provide to you the criteria for the rezoning and master plan criteria in a separate staff report. On page 882 of your packet, You'll see the master plan that is proposed. Again, a significant portion of the property that has wetlands will be conserved, including some upland areas. There is an area of about several small wetlands that will be impacted as proposed in this master plan, including an area that's more than five acres. You'll see three sub phases illustrated on this master plan. On page 923 of your packet, You'll see the existing land use categories on this property. You can see that there is industrial, conservation, low density residential, commercial high intensity, and planned industrial park. All of that will be replaced on the right side of the screen there on page 923 with the planned industrial park land use category. That will be the land use amendment that will be sent to the state. So again, the text amendment and the land use amendment are two separate actions. Based on the information that was provided to us, we believe that the application should be transmitted to the state for review and then it will schedule public hearings for adoption once we receive those comments back from the state. With that, I'll try to answer any questions you have.

Vice Mayor.

Brad, I heard you explain the wetland mitigation. And I'm not sure I really completely understood it. They're planning on mitigating the wetlands on the property itself.

There are some wetlands that are bringing that will be proposed to be mitigated or be impacted rather. And then other wetlands that they will preserve. And based on the environmental report that was provided to us, it will be actually a net improvement because some of the wetlands are of low quality, whereas other wetlands are of higher quality. The applicant can better understand explain that report.

Did you know we've always talked about mitigation and anytime it's mitigated, it's not mitigated inside our city limits and I don't know if the. People that are proposing this project. Are willing to do any mitigation. Within the city of Titusville at some point, I'm asking the question.

I don't have anything more than what was provided in the application, so the strategy that is proposed to us is that based on the valuations that they did, which are based on state criteria, that there's a net gain as a result of what they're preserving.

Okay. Member Moscoso?

Thank you. I watched the P&Z meeting and it said that the wetland, I guess it was the conservation, it would go to St. John's. Is that correct? What does that exactly mean? I'm sorry, the easement would go to St. John's. What does that mean? Does that mean that they would now be in charge of taking care of it or could you explain that a little bit?

Sure. If the state will accept an easement, What that generally means is that they will make sure that it is managed. I don't think it's going to be transferring an ownership, so it's still going to be owned by the airport authorities, so they'll be responsible for maintaining it and managing it according to whatever that easement states.

Okay. And then my other question is, because this is so close to Verona and it looks like, you know, there will be some changing of the wetlands, are we, I mean, my concern is any flooding in that area, and so I don't know if we've looked into that as well.

I will have to defer to the applicant to explain what they have found out there.

Okay. Thank you.

Do you guys have questions for Brad, or it sounds like some of these questions are for the applicant, so I just want to survey you. Nelson, Stoeckle, questions for Brad or applicant?

It's a mix.

Okay. Well, fire away at Brad, Member Stoeckle.

OK, so and it's mostly I'm wanting clarification on should there be changes now if we want it before we transmit to the state or would that wait until it comes back from the state during the first and second reading if there's certain conditions. So that's where and both of the other Council members brought up some things I had the same things I had one that was not brought up that I wanted to know regarding the text portion. If we wanted to put in something in the language with the text, to say no data center in there, would that be appropriate at this portion of the process?

I would think that would probably be something you would attach to the master plan when it's brought before you. Again, we didn't review the master plan against the master plan criteria and the code because we're not at that stage yet.

Okay.

So that would be my recommendation.

Okay. And that's obviously a question I have for the applicant. And then, one, the vice mayor brought up, which is interesting. again another question for the applicant regarding the wetlands because this is impacting current wetlands if even though there's they're saving a significant portion if there was the potential for Getting additional wetlands within the city to preserve to because we're having such flooding issues. Uh, remember, Muscoso brought up my Verona concerns and it's looking like from the map. Thankfully, the the parcel that's close to the homes seems to be the wetlands area that is going to be concerned conserved. But I do have concerns about the flooding as well, especially as Verona has been very careful to make sure that they don't have any flooding as they're developing partial wetlands as well. Uhm, yeah, I'm concerned about that. And then the last one was regarding the easement. Could Titusville, in addition to the Saint Johns, have some say in that as well? So I had four things.

Yes, you could as part of that. Again, I would say as part of that master plan, because that's kind of more of a zoning regulatory kind of criteria.

Wait on that portion as well.

OK, I think so.

Yeah, OK, thank you.

I was going to echo what Herman said. I don't have any problem with transmitting it, but we have never agreed to destroy a wetland that was more than five acres. And now we're looking at destroying wetland of 15 acres. We had that huge flooding in October. We had a huge amount of flooding last week, and so I'm interested in protecting our city.

Applicant, whoever that may be, who am I calling on?

Good evening, Mayor, Vice Mayor, Council Members. Kenan Hussaini with Kimley Horn Associates, 7341 Office Park Place, Melbourne, Florida. Thank you for the time tonight. We have a brief presentation. Before I get started, I want to just be clear on record, under oath, that this is not a data center. Just before we start, thank you. So yeah, I'm here tonight representing the Titusville Coco Airport Authority for Space Coast Innovation Park phase three. It's a planned industrial development. Our project team is in attendance. As you can see from the slide, Titusville Coco Airport Authority is the property owner and then there's a list of consultants that are here with me to answer any questions you guys have. So tonight we're here just for the transmittal hearing of the comprehensive plan amendment, but there's a concurrent application for rezoning as Brad has stated. So the location map, just to familiarize everybody, it's just east of State Road 407, just west of Grissom Parkway, just south of Shepherd Drive, adjacent to the airport, west of the airport. So as Brad indicated, this is the existing land use map. It's hard to see, but on the east side of the site, we have commercial and industrial zoning. On the west side, we have PIP and M2 zoning industrial and residential zoning to the south. Sorry, residential land use to the south. Here's the conceptual site plan. I think as Brad has indicated, this goes along with the rezoning package, but it gives you an idea of what's being proposed in that red outline is the 148 acre conservation track that we're proposing that combines a mixture of wetlands and high quality uplands. When this comes in front of you to alleviate some concerns that staff has had and council members have had, this is a development plan that gets approved by you. If we wanted to change it, we'd have to come back in front of you. So that red line is important in that we can't simply say we're gonna do something and not carry out that obligation. This is the future land use map. This map is a little confusing, but it shows that it's patchwork land use in that area. Everything that has a color on it has a different land use today. The parcel or the portion of the parcel along State Road 407 is white and will remain white because it will remain land use of PIP. So with the PIP and then when we come in front of you for the rezoning application to PID, there's a requirement for 20% open space. Right now, before we add in open space elements to our development plan in our stormwater tracks, we have 27%. So as it stands today, we're over 7% of open space above what's required. When we come back with the individual site plans, that number will climb to over 30%, so we'll be 10% over a minimum. So wetland conservation. So our team over the past 12 months has spent a couple weeks on site with Saint John staff. The criteria that they went through was to start to degrade all the wetlands using the UMAM scoring analysis and grade the uplands that contributed flow to the wetlands as well to get grading on those as well. Based on the UMAM calculations, we calculated the functional loss of the wetlands that are impacted. The wetlands that we show are impacted are in green. Those wetlands are isolated wetlands. They don't have any connections to other wetlands. They don't receive any water from the Verona neighborhood. Verona neighborhood discharges to that Willow Creek wetland. That's the big wetland that we're isolating and the big wetland that we're preserving. we looked at impacting the isolated wetlands, the low quality wetlands, the wetlands that are small and less than half acre. The functional loss versus the functional gain, I think as staff said, we have a functional gain of 1.33 functional units. So what we're proposing meets the criteria in the comp plan. The one wetland that is over five acres is that 15 acre wetland in the middle of the project. And I'll come back to that at the end and just walk through some of the analysis we did on site and some pictures of that wetland as we talk about it. Traffic is also a big concern of residents, so we wanted to analyze that. We submitted a full traffic analysis with this application. The existing land uses on the project generate a total right now of 10,921 daily trips. As we do the text amendment to reduce the Florida area ratio to 0.23, that limits our square footage to 3.5 million square feet across the whole 350 acres. based purely on that 3.5 million square feet, that reduces our trips by almost 60% to 7,948. During this traffic study, I believe the date was May 21st, 2026, we did traffic counts. The current daily trips on State Road 407, my eyes are going. It was a little over 14,000 daily trips. With the addition of our trips, we still stay at 18,839 trips, which is consistent with the comp plan for the level of service of that road. To be perfectly clear, it's an estate road. It's FDOT owned and operated. We will have to get approval from FDOT if a widening is required. If offsite improvements are required by FDOT, that'll be an obligation of our project. This is the subject site zoomed in, once again, just to show everybody the location of it. As we zoom out at a more, and it's really tough to see, but as we zoom out on a much bigger scale, We're looking for opportunities to attract aerospace and aviation future businesses to the area. This is a prime location for it. It's on the very, very south end of the city of Titusville. It's right up against the airport and it's right up against 95. It's, you know, when you look at the comprehensive plan and the policies and the comprehensive plan about attracting aerospace and aviation technologies, this is the perfect site for that. Going back to that wetland, I'll pull up some graphics here. Sorry, real quick. Community outreach. We had a community outreach meeting at the courtyard by Marriott, and we handed in our package to staff just to prove that it was done, and we attended at 6 to 8 p.m. and answered questions for two hours. So when we look at this wetland, this is an aerial image from 2026. This is the 15-acre wetland in question. This wetland has been impacted by illegal RV use for decades. Here's the picture from 2026. Here's the picture from 2007. The wetland, due to the illegal usage, it's just been deteriorated. When we look at the comprehensive plan, the code section, one of the criteria about if we are gonna provide a functional loss assessment, it talks about, I just wanna read it just so we're clear. It says land development impacts on designated wetlands. Sorry policy one point six point four Land development impacts on designated wetlands shall be assessed based on the functional value of wetlands the functional value assessment criteria for wetlands shall include at a minimum consideration of size capacity for I believe it says flood storage or flow regulation potential as wildlife and or fisheries habitat potential of habitat for state or federally protected species rarity as a vegetative community degree of prior adverse impacts, which would limit the future viability of wetland. and potential for recreational use. So our wetland mitigation strategy, let me go back to that slide. It was based on how do we make sure we're providing the best ecological benefit for this project? And you know, part of the strategy 1.6.3.2 is if it's avoidable, Well, every concept plan we did, it's slap in the middle of our parcel and we no matter what type of concept we put together, it's just extremely hard to avoid. So we looked at, well, does it make more sense to impact a wetland that's already been impacted by decades of illegal usage and then provide high quality uplands to provide benefit to the wetlands that's shown on the screen there? And when you do the functional loss versus functional gain UMAM scoring analysis, it shows that the benefit of protecting those uplands far outweighs the negative of impacting that 15 acre wetland system. So with that, that's the end of our short presentation. Like I said, I have a group of consultants here with me to answer any questions you have. We're happy to answer questions. I already have some of the questions jotted down that Council has asked already, and I can answer those starting now, if you guys are good with that.

Vice Mayor?

Okay, you said you're going to impact 15 acres. And what is your, how much are you mitigating that with the uplands you're talking about?

So the wetland that's 15 acres is that single wetland, that irregular shaped wetland, that's the 15 acres that I mentioned. We're proposing to save conservation easement 148 acres of wetlands and uplands. You're going to develop 148 acres? That's going to be the conservation easement in favor of St. John's River Water Management District. And I guess that'll answer Councilwoman Stoeckel's question. It can be in favor of the city of Titusville as well. It won't be an obligation to maintain as part of our permitting through St. John's River Water Management District. We'll have to get approved a preserve area maintenance plan that will have to carry out in perpetuity, but you do have that binding plan that gets approved at council that we can't change it without coming in front of you. But if there was concern that the city wanted to be one of easement over that easement with ST John's, I think we can accomplish that. Okay.

Thank you.

Um, Brad, what is the benefit of us having that conservation easement instead of ST John's?

I think what Mr. Keon is getting at is that the master plan can work. It works as a zoning district, basically. It has regulations and conditions associated with it, as Mistoko was even asking about, and I was suggesting what she was asking for was best placed in the master plan. So you can have conditions on here on what should be preserved, such as what they're requesting, this wetland area. It'll be a condition that'll be illustrated and required as part of the master plan. So even if they do, if St. John's accepts an easement or they don't accept an easement, you still have that control, that regulation with the zoning district, with the master plan and conditions associated with it. So if they want to make changes to it, they have to come back to the city council.

Okay. Thank you.

Member Stoeckle.

Yes, I have two additional questions regarding the access points. Brad, you mentioned that Verona was supposed to have an access point going through this piece of property as a condition for their project?

They are required to have a second access point. It doesn't say specifically where.

Okay.

But it's always understood that eventually it will go up north and then be able to have some access point east-west, possibly through this property or through their own property. They have not proposed that on their own property. So they have a condition on their development that limits them on how many subdivisions they can have approved until that is resolved.

Until they have another access. Correct. But they also know that they don't own this piece of property. Correct. Okay. So that's one. And then the 407 access point, and I know that's the state road, but for those of us that drive that road, it is a very – scary road because of the oncoming traffic people going 60 plus miles per hour that does concern because we already have the shepherd drive which we can see people going in and out of which is very very rare at this point so just i guess from a safety perspective do what do you anticipate for that access point knowing the current conditions of it knowing that are you pulling out with cars going 60 how does that look and how many cars are you anticipating yeah certainly

Going back to what I previously said, we will have to submit a full traffic analysis to FDOT. It'll have to include signal-warn analysis with that. My anticipation, based on full build-out, if it gets to the 3.5 million or slightly there below it, it will be a signalized main entrance, yes.

Member Nelson.

So how many acres of wetland will we impact?

I don't have that total number in front of me, but I can call up our environmental consultant from Oneida, and I think she has that number, if you'd like that number.

I would. Yep.

Haley Torkas. I guess we're working under Oneida LG2 for this project. Your wetland impacts are 29.67 acres in total.

Okay.

The majority of which is that 15-acre singular wetland. The rest are kind of smattered about the property.

Okay. Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you.

Member Nelson, if you look on page 873 of your packet, you'll see the exhibit that they provided to us that illustrates that number. It's on the top right.

Member Stoeckle?

Yes, and then I didn't know if the applicant wanted to address some of the things that we said prior. Sure. Jess, it sounded like you were fine with putting in the no data center, but we might wait on that for the master plan. Since there's a lot of discussion about wetlands, and maybe it's not at this point, maybe when we get to that condition, potentially providing more wetlands throughout the city, that's a significant amount that we're impacting if this goes forward. So that's something that I would be looking for personally. And then it sounds like the easement. We're on the same page with that one. So I and then the Verona you addressed as well, but I think it the only lingering one is the wetlands.

Yeah, We've looked at opportunities on airport property to preserve additional areas And they may be an opportunity in the future at this current juncture we only have this opportunity to do the 148 acres on site and Because it meets the functional loss criteria or functional gain criteria of the comp plan. That's what we're proposing at this time I think there was another question maybe that you had about the impacting the wetlands and how it relates to floodplain compensation or maybe that was Councilman Muscoso. But yeah, we'll have to provide full floodplain compensation on our property. We are not allowed to impact the floodplain at all. So for those wetlands that are impacted in addition to the 148 acres will provide floodplain compensation on site will do an analysis based off of that existing 148 acres that we're proposing that Verona currently discharges to and our project will discharge to it as well to make sure that it doesn't stage up and provide any adverse impacts to those residents.

And then lastly, just to say at this point, we are just potentially looking at submitting to the state. We are not at the land use and rezoning, so we can have more of this discussion and it's yes, we can have more of that discussion.

Yeah, this is a transmittal hearing only. There will be a second reading with the rezoning at that reading as well. Perfect. Thank you.

Vice Mayor Cole, I just want to make sure that I'm sure you can understand the tenor of the council and we're all talking about wetlands. So that becomes very important to us. And if there's any way to mitigate it within the city, it would be great because anytime anybody comes in and they want to mitigate, it goes somewhere in Brevard County and does not fall back in the city. So if that's something you can look at or something you can do, it would really help us in our decisions, I think, because you've listened to all five of us, and I think we've spoken with one voice.

Thank you. And I didn't say anything.

You've listened to all four of us, and we've spoken with one voice.

Gave counsel an opportunity to talk. Thank you very much, sir. City Clerk.

Yes, sir. Altogether, there are eight cards. Six of the project representatives have submitted cards. The first was the gentleman you just heard from, Mr. Hussaini.

All right. Well, we'll hear from the two non-project representatives.

Clifford Repiger. Oh, okay. And then Laura Lee Thompson.

Lori Thompson Moons. So it's great that they're preserving a significant number of environmentally sensitive lands and offsetting impacts by conserving wetlands. But this is a newsflash. They have to conserve those big wetlands anyway. They're not doing the city any favors by preserving them. They have to. They're proposing a maximum of 80% impervious area over the site. That's a lot of impervious area. They're preserving 120 acres of wetlands, but what about the other 29.67 acres of wetlands that will be lost? They are asking a lot of the city. They want you to approve this proposed planned industrial park without a clue of what's going to go in it. Your own development review procedures manual says that for amendments to the comprehensive plan, you're supposed to show where the buildings will be located. So their master plan does not show any buildings. And without showing where the building locations are, there's no rationale for why wetlands have to be filled. They want you to give up 29.67 acres of wetlands. What is the city getting in return? According to our five-acre wetland rule, the 15-acre wetland should be mitigated. I know that it's been desecrated, but it's still a 15-acre wetland. Their wetland strategy plan, use UMAM, which is what the state of Florida uses to measure ecological value of wetlands, and I'm reading straight from the staff report, ecological value is determined by analyzing wildlife habitat, water storage, water filtering, and overall environmental health. To make up for those impacts, the project will permanently protect other wetlands and upland areas. So I can see on their wetland strategy map, I see the upland areas that they're protecting, but what other wetlands are they protecting? They just have the 120 acres that they're supposed to protect. So I see an opportunity for the city to get something here for taking a chance and approving something that should have a lot more information provided to you guys and given up that 15 acre wetland piece. Over the 4th of July weekend, we had another rainstorm that caused flooding in the same exact areas that flooded last October. The city has a flooding problem and it's not going to get better. You have to do something. So perhaps there's some wetlands somewhere else in the city that could be acquired. and given to the city to mitigate for impacts in the planned industrial park the city could do projects in the donated wetlands to ease flooding in some neighborhoods and i don't think that's asking for a lot and and when i add up the figures in their um wetlands map thing i come up with 143.99 acres in the conservation easement no matter how many times i add it up And they're saying that it's more than that. So I'm questioning their addition. Thank you.

Thank you very much, Ms. Lurley. So yeah, at this point in time, you know, we're just looking at the idea of transmitting this to the state. We're not at the bargaining point when we develop the PID or planned industrial development or the master plan or attached strings or conditions upon rezoning. So at this point, we're just evaluating whether this should be sent up to the state and just kind of looking at the future land use that's on the property currently. It's a hodgepodge of a lot of different things. And I think having a sound plan makes a lot of sense. Now, obviously, we've got to evaluate that plan and go through the process. So I'm in favor of just moving the ball along and seeing what we can do, as Ms. Laura Lee said, see what we can get on behalf of the city of Titusville and our residents, especially in the north end. They're definitely adversely affected by some stormwater issues. So with that being said, Member Nelson?

I'd move to approve the transmittal of vertigo. COMP PLAN AMENDMENT 1.2026.

SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION BY MEMBER NELSON TO TRANSMIT THE MAP, CPA 1-2026, AND SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR COLE. CITY CLERK.

Member Stoeckel. Yes. Member Moscoso. Yes. Member Nelson. Yes. Mayor Connors. Yes. Vice Mayor Colt.

Yes.

Motion carries. Member Nelson. And move to transmit CPA number 2-2025.

Would you amend your motion to the CPA 2-2026? CPA 2-2026. Second. I have a motion by Member Nelson to transmit the text, CPA 2-2026, seconded by Vice Mayor Cole. Any discussion? Seeing none, City Clerk.

Member Moscoso? Yes. Member Nelson? Yes. Mayor Connors? Yes. Vice Mayor Cole? Yes. Member Stockel? Yes.

Motion carries. Thank you very much. City Manager?

Yes, sir. The next item is a subject to quasi judicial procedure. So the city attorney read those rules. Then I'll introduce the item.

During the public hearing portion of the meeting, anyone wishing to speak on a quasi judicial item must complete and sign a speaker card along with the corresponding oath on the card. The cards are located on the table in front of the chambers. city staff will make the initial presentation and then the applicant will present then the hearing will be open to public comments and those who wish to make a public comment on the item will speak third the applicant may make a brief rebuttal if they desire witnesses may be cross-examined and all photographs sketches or documents for the hearing must be submitted to the city clerk and will be retained by the city members please at this time disclose any ex parte communications or site visits

Member Moscoso?

None.

Member Nelson? None. Vice Mayor Cole? No. Dr. Stoeckle? No. And I have none either. Mr. Parish?

On June 17th of this year, the Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval with the following conditions. A traffic study be provided, recorded cross-exit easement, and a trail crossing safety plan be provided. The traffic study was provided. Recorded cross-exit easement is going to be required by the state anyway. And a trail crossing safety plan, we believe that could be sufficient based on a proof site plan that's consistent with our safety requirements and other regulations. The application is to put a gas station at this property, which is at the southwest corner of Derry Road and US 1. This was brought before you once before. It was also brought before the Planning and Zoning Commission in a different iteration before. It was brought to you by P&Z, brought to P&Z actually at first with a different layout. It was rejected, brought back to P&Z with the changes and these conditions is what I read was what P&Z recommended. They recommended approval. This was brought before you once before but was continued or withdrawn by the applicant. So this is the first time you're going to see this this evening officially. Um, I'm just going to point to the concept plan that you see on page. 9 49 of your packet. You'll see the applicant is proposing a convenience store with gas fuel pumps. This required a conditional use permit. You'll see the two access points, one off of Dairy Road and one going to, actually there's three here. The first one off of Dairy Road, close to the intersection of Dairy and US 1. There's another access point which will go on to another portion of this property, which from what I understand will be phased or developed into separately. And you'll see that access point on Derry as well. The third access point will utilize an existing driveway at Brevard Lumber to the south of this property. This we believe is beneficial only because it is not creating a new access point over a regional trail, which is an important asset to the city. It's using and improving an existing grandfathered driveway. When the trail was put in, it was put over an existing driveway which did not meet current safety standards. So this will be an improvement here and will provide safety improvements for this particular driveway and this crossing. The application includes a deceleration lane you see going southbound on US 1. The application was reviewed against the conditional use criteria of the code. Staff believes it is consistent with that criteria and any special conditions for the particular uses that are proposed as well. With that, I'll try to answer any questions. We do recommend approval.

Thank you very much. City Clerk, are there any cards on this matter?

Yes, sir. The three cards that were submitted appeared to be project representatives.

Okay. Just curious. Kim Rezonka? Member Stoeckle, do you have a question for Brad?

Yes. Can you just explain, so this is not a land use change or rezoning, so that's criteria is met. Can you explain why we have a CUP for a convenience store?

Our code?

It's it's in our zoning code requires a CU piece of certain.

I guess you have an opinion on why why wouldn't why would this need a CUP? Why would it if it's community commercial? Why would a convenient store just not go through staff approval? Why did Yes, thank you.

I'm going to take a guess as to why that is. And I think back in the late earlier late nineties, there was an issue statewide. There was even a state law related convenience stores and safety plans. And a lot of communities, including our own adopted those same standards from the state statute into our code and then required them to have this discretionary review for specific for convenience stores. I think that's why that is the case. I'm not sure it's absolutely necessary now. We actually have been looking into the idea of maybe changing our code to make this a little easier. You have given us prior discretion to look at that to see where we can make changes to our code anyway. But I think that's the reason.

And then lastly, did you have any thoughts on the three conditions P&Z provided and then same question for the applicant?

I don't think they're necessary. The safety plan is something that will be required anyway. You can't get in a site plan approved if it's not safe and not consistent with code. The cross-access easement is something the state's going to require anyway because it's going over a state conservation trail. And the traffic study is something that's going to be required anyway. In fact, they've already provided that to us. Okay.

Thank you.

Any other questions? Mr. Member Moscoso?

Thank you. I mean, my main concern, and I'm sure you might address this, is those fuel trucks possibly doing a U-turn there. But, Brad, I don't know. This is probably really off and left field. Are we able, because of that, the trail, are we able to restrict when they can receive, like, these big trucks coming in? Or is that nothing? Yeah, I'm just worried about those trucks doing a U-turn and then trying to cross that trail as well.

So, two things to... Yeah, keep in mind this is a concept plan that they'll still have to provide to us a site plan for engineering. So if it doesn't, if it has to be realigned in some way specific to that site plan, that's when we'll do that. As long as it's not significantly different from the concept plan, then they probably won't have to come back to you. So it has to be designed in a safe manner. As far as controlling when certain vehicles or what time vehicles can use that particular driveway, I think it might be council's discretion if you believe that this is a nuisance issue that you can't impose certain conditions.

I'm just afraid people coming down on peak hours, kids riding bicycles, people walking, and if we could restrict the fuel trucks coming in the middle of the night. I'm not sure that's even allowed. That would be my preference.

We could ask the applicant as to how they believe the truck traffic circulation will occur on the property, access to the property. I suspect that this particular driveway here is for the pass-by traffic who see a gas station and want to stop there, as opposed to the truck traffic. But the applicant could better answer that.

Okay. Thank you.

Member Nelson. I'm just thinking, this is property, the driveway belongs to Brevard Lumber. I actually used to have a bus stop there. There have been trucks going in and out forever. So if we wanted to stop trucks from going in and out, it would not be necessarily this project. It would be something that would affect Brevard Lumber plus this property.

That is possible.

All right. Ms. Rozenka, did you have anything that you wanted to add?

Well, I feel like I have to speak because I'm here.

My name is Kim Rozenka with the law firm Lacey Rozenka. I'm here with the developer Blackfin Partners. Steve Lapisky, I said the name wrong, I think, with Blackfin Partners is also here. Kyle Shastain with Bowman, the engineer of record. They can talk to the patterns of the trucks. 7-11 is what's proposed here. They do have very specific policies of how their trucks come in. I think I know it, but I'm going to let them talk about it because they know it better. And we did agree to change the access to use the existing provided lumber. We're going to have to improve that. We're going to put in more safety features. They don't want unsafe. They're going to put in the lights and everything else they need to make it safe there. We don't have the plan yet. This is an FDOT road. We go across FDEP property, so there are many agency jurisdictions that are going to be looking at this and making requirements before this ever comes to fruition. We do have to go through formal site plan as the staff report said. We're going to have a landscaping plan, a tree mitigation plan, a photometric plan. All of those things will be discussed with staff throughout the process. I just wanted to mention that the code is met. The comprehensive plan is met. Staff has recommended approval, and Planning and Zoning recommended approval 5-0, and that was based upon the fact that they had moved the new access to an existing access off of US-1. So with that, I'm going to bring up either Kyle or Steve to talk about the traffic pattern, because I'm not exactly sure what they are.

Hi there. Good evening. My name is Kyle Chastain with Bowman 4450 West O'Galley Boulevard. Could you clarify where your concerns were for the U-turns with the fuel truck specifically? I wasn't sure if I followed.

Sure. Yeah. If you're going north on US-1, there's a light at Derry. You've got two access points on Derry and then you've got one on US-1. So would those trucks be accessing, would they be going through Derry or would they be coming in US-1 and going over the trail?

My understanding with conversations from the end user who will be here, their primary fuel route will be entering on US 1 because it's very specific. They want to unload the fuel from their trucks on the passenger side of the vehicle. So if you can imagine, it would enter through US 1, it would park next to those fuel tanks that are shown on the concept plan, unload the fuel, and then it would exit via Derry Road.

Okay. And this question might be for Brad or for TPD. Is that a high accident area?

Do we have that information? I don't have the information as far as the accidents. Okay.

Thank you. Subjectively, I go out to that park three or four times a week, and I haven't seen a whole lot of accidents, you know, but there is a good amount of traffic flowing down US 1.

Obvious, but right answer and we've met with FDOT already after revising this plan from what was previously presented to planning and zoning. They've given us some feedback on on what they expect to happen. Ultimately, that's going to be up to the traffic study, which will be required to submit to FDOT along with the city of Titusville and any improvements that are warranted on that traffic study are going to be required to be constructed with the projects.

Any other questions? Seeing none, thank you very much, Sir. Alright, thank you. Any discussion from Council or?

We had no concerns about the conditions recommended by PNC, but we believe like Mr. Paris that they were unnecessary, but we wanted to satisfy PNC. And we'd request approval of the CUP.

Thank you very much. Any further discussion from this board? Seeing none, I'll entertain a motion. Vice Mayor Cole.

I'll make a motion to approve this CUP number 92025, parcel ID number 21352800279. Second.

A motion by Vice Mayor Cole. I have a second from Member Nelson. Any further discussion? Seeing none, City Clerk.

Yes, sir. Please forgive me in my role. I just want to verify is there is any condition. I know there's one in which there was not. Thank you. Member Nelson. Yes. Mayor Connors. Yes. Vice Mayor Cole. Yes. Member Stoeckel. Yes. Member Moscoso. Yes.

Motion carries. Thank you very much. Now city manager 12.

Sir, we have no ordinances. Item number 10 first reading. We have no old business moving on to item 12 new business. 12 a is for the water and sewer revenue bond series 2026 and the city is proposing to issue not to exceed 14 million. $47,000 in Water and Sewer Revenue Bond Series 2026 to fund the improvements to the city's water and sewer system and to pay the related costs of issuance, and the improvements will be for the Blue Heron Filter replacement, the Master Pump Station replacement, and the Bayview Seminole Lift Station placements, and with issuance costs not to exceed $47,000. And we have a public works director available to answer any questions regarding this bond issuance.

Thank you very much, City Manager. City Clerk, are there any cards on this matter?

Well, you gave it for both of them, really. City Clerk, any cards?

Yes.

Yes, sir. There's one card. Susan Canada.

Hello, Susan Canada, Titusville, and I'm here in reference to the stormwater. You talked about raising rates.

That's not what we're on right now. Oh.

It's the next item. Okay.

All good. We'll call you back up in a minute. All right, so I'm not seeing any cards. Correct, City Clerk? All right. And is there any discussion from this board? We obviously voted to approve all these projects. Now we got to pay for them. Any questions on that? All right. Can I have a motion?

Move to approve the Water and Sewer Revenue Bond Series 2026. Second.

I have a motion by Member Nelson, a second by Vice Mayor Cole. Any discussion? City Clerk?

Yes, sir. That is Mayor Connors. Yes. Vice Mayor Cole. Yes. Member Stockel. Yes. Member Moscoso. Yes. Member Nelson. Yes.

Thank you very much. Motion carries now. The City Clerk's going to hand you two pieces of paper. I've got the... You got the originals? I've got them.

Oh, sir, I have two originals. I have two originals here.

All right. Member Moscoso, please. Yeah, we all have to sign the same form. Twice. Hand it to Dr. Stoeckle and let her sign and pass it on down. By the way, this will be impacting all of our credits. Who likes spending money? All right, now that all the paperwork's complete, City Manager, on to item 12B.

Yes, sir. 12B is establishing the FY27 stormwater rates assessment, which we need to mail out in August. And here with a short presentation on our stormwater rates, and we're looking for an approved cap, is our Public Works Director.

Hello. Thank you for having me. In 2016, City Council authorized the use of the uniform method for collecting non-advalor stormwater assessments to fund our stormwater utility. And because of that, we are required to send out a letter notifying all property owners in the city of what their proposed stormwater assessment is. So that letter needs to go out 20 days prior to the public hearing. The public hearing is scheduled for August 25th, our second meeting in August. So, what you are doing tonight is we're determining what amount, what rate goes on that letter. It is not setting the rate. It is setting the amount on that letter. After it goes on that letter, we cannot go above what is put on there, but you can set a rate that is lower than that. So, let me see the presentation. So, I'll go through a short presentation, kind of showing what the budget could go towards. So where we start, this is our current FY26 funding. So our total assessment was $4.8 million. That does not mean I get $4.8 million to put pipes in the ground. If you look on the list on the right, there are fees that we have to pay to the property appraiser, the tax collector. If you pay your taxes early, you get a 3%, 4% discount. That being said, We still collect more than we did when we did it ourselves because more people pay their taxes than paying their stormwater bill that the city sends out. So this is still a very good method to collect these fees. Then about 900,000 goes to general fund allocation to fund services for the stormwater utility, like purchasing human resources, IT, all of those services that City Hall provides for us. We have some debt payments for capital outlay. Street sweeping, which we reduced earlier in this meeting, so that's very good. We have equipment purchases. We have about 1.3, 1.4 million of personnel, which I'll go over on the next slide. So that leaves me just under a million in operating. So that sounds like a lot, but that's to repair the entire system. So to give you an To give you an idea, we fixed a box and just a driveway crossing over on Park Ave, and that cost me $130,000. I got a cost estimate to do 900 feet of slip lining, which is a great idea to slip line because you don't have to dig up an entire road. But one street, that's one street, the cost was $230,000. So that's a quarter of what I have to work with every year for one street. And historically, we have not funded any capital projects. We maintain what's there. So personnel. There's 19 employees, 19 FTEs funded through the stormwater utility. That's one supervisor, eight employees for mowing. That's slope mowing, bush hogging, and weed eating over 25 miles of dishes. Most of our ditches have to be weed-eated, so that's... That's people with weed eaters walking those ditches, so that's why it takes us about 12 weeks to do a full cycle. Construction crew, I have four people, one supervisor, three workers. That's one crew. So if I have two pipes that need to be repaired at the same time, that's why you see cones, because I have one crew working until they can move to the next one. And then I have about six, I have six employees that do dredging of all of the ditches in all of the inlet cleaning, all of the pipe cleaning, the baffle box cleaning throughout the city. So increasing this level of service will require additional funding, either through outsourcing of some maintenance activities or increasing city personnel and equipment resources. So since October, we're all that's very hard to see, but we're all aware there are flooding issues in the city. So we've just been keeping track and developing priority areas. I can tell you it gets added to quite often. So as I hear areas that gets added, this gets passed on to the consultant that we have doing the stormwater master plan. I do want to point out that we have two areas, Parkland, Crescent, American Village. The county has recently received an FDM grant, a hazard mitigation grant, to start a hazard watershed study and model in that whole area. And I have told them that if they need more funding, the city, you know, to partner with us because, as we all know, that area has county and city properties. And then the Baker subdivision, Temple Drive, Crest Drive, we have already started our own study. We got a grant for that also that should be done at the end of this calendar year. And then I have some Xs for improvements that I think that we could possibly start working on prior to the stormwater master plan being done because they might have more of a simple fix than some of the others. So the options we're showing you is a 50% increase on the current rate, a 75% increase on the current rate, and a 100% increase on the current rate. We can go more maintenance focused or more capital focused. What I need tonight is what increase you want to put on that letter. We can give more information on the maintenance versus capital moving forward prior to the public hearing. But here are some of the things that could be done at each level. 50% increase of our maintenance focus. I can't do any flooding projects. And I could get a contractor to rebuild about 10% of the ditches, or we could purchase a piece of equipment that I really want and focus and try to do more in-house. On the capital side, I could maybe get one flooding project. It really doesn't get a lot, $270,000, maybe get a design or two, but actually... doing maybe one design and construction. It all depends. I don't have cost estimates for everything because those have to go out to bid and we have to have the funding for it. So if you look at the 75% increase, we could do more maintenance. and one or two flooding projects or keep an existing level maintenance service and do maybe three or four flooding projects. And same with 100% increase. We could do 40% of the ditches or get the walking excavator and add FTEs to increase our own dredging. And or we could do existing level of maintenance and up to four to six flooding projects. So it kind of shows there's a lot. Oh, I didn't move it. Sorry. You guys should have told me that. I there's a lot on one slide and those are those those options. They I can't do all three of those options listed or the two of the options listed. It's you get one of those for those funding options. So I'm not saying this is exactly what we're going to do, but this is an idea of what we could do with with each level. So here's the rate impact for each option. So currently today A single family home without a credit is $13.37 a month. A credit means if you are in a subdivision that maintains their own stormwater pond, which is the subdivisions built after the 80s when the water management district started requiring stormwater ponds, you get a 30% credit. Good majority of our property was built before then, so they they do not get a credit. So they're they're being charged 1337 a month today. The 50% increase would increase that to 2006 a month. The 75% increase would increase that to 2340 a month and 100% increase would increase that to 2674 a month. This shows the options, maintenance, 50% maintenance capital, 75 and 100, what goes towards maintenance and what goes towards flooding. So you can kind of see the different options. Every option, no matter what, has funded inspection and cleaning of 20% of the system. We need to become more proactive than we are now. We have always been very reactive. Someone calls in an issue, we go look at it. We need to, not only is the state requiring it with our permit, but we need to start becoming proactive and develop lists of things that need to be repaired before they become wholes. So every one of these options includes an increase in some maintenance. So in summary, you can go maintenance focus and prioritize staffing, equipment, dredging, increase our operating budget, and this will reduce backlogs and implement a more proactive approach. Or we can go capital, which will prioritize new infrastructure and start funding some of the flooding projects prior to the end of the stormwater master plan. I can tell you... We could definitely use the maintenance money, but no matter how much we maintain the current system, it's not going to stop what happened in October. our system cannot handle that kind of rain. So it depends on what you want to focus on now. If you want to focus on maintenance now and wait for the stormwater master plan, or if we want to start getting ahead of some of these projects. So this was in your packet. It's very hard to see on the screen, but it was in the packet of the options. It shows the monthly increase at the bottom. And I need to hear what you want to do.

Thank you very much, Ms. Sandy.

Oh, she gets mad at me. My recommendation for this letter would definitely be to put 100% increase on the letter. You're not setting the rate. You can always go below it. But I could use every single one of those pennies and more. And like I said, still need more. But if you want to know what the citizens want, every... Person who owns a piece of property in the city is going to get a letter individualized to their property. So if you want opinions, you'll hear him after they see that letter.

Thank you very much, Miss Sandy. City Clerk.

Yes, sir. There are about 10 cards. The first is Elizabeth Baker.

Not here.

Milton Farrow.

Good evening. I'm here tonight to voice my strong opposition to the proposed stormwater increased fees. The fees you've intended to increase is not a forward-looking plan. It is a bailout for a system that has failed to hold the developer accountable for using property owner's assets. Years ago, the developers built their profit into our community, and they created the very impervious services that have created the flooding problem that has guaranteed problems of excess runoff not having sufficient outflow facility. You not only didn't correct that, but you had Stan Johnson jailed because he objected to it. You ought to be ashamed, every one of you here. It's a disgrace what you've done to this man for telling you the truth. The city has the tools and the legal authority and the responsibility to charge the developer the appropriate impact fees, which they have neglected to do for over 25 years. And now you're intending to walk away from your responsibilities once again by heaping more fees upon the property owner to cover up the mess that you have created. This is your Frankenstein and you alone have created this problem. Passing these fees onto the homeowners is immoral, it's unjust, and possibly may be illegal for the following reasons. It rewards bad performance and it signals the staff that there are zero consequences for job failures. It doubles the taxation, which is now between 120 to 300 a month, varying upon which home you live in. It creates additional hardship for homeowners undergoing substantial financial hardship. The average median income in Brevard County is below the poverty line. I don't know if you knew that, but that was established by the county commission. They gave those figures recently. Your intended actions, if you continue this, will only guarantee that the trend continues. I urge you to find some way about this. And maybe the answer is moratorium. Mr. Developer? We have no more room. Book the next hotel, go down the road to the next city. Thank you.

Thank you, sir.

City clerk, Diane law.

Hello.

My name is Diane law and I was here a couple of years ago because the city has a pipe, a stormwater pipe that goes, under the ground and then reappears and dumps all the storm water into my yard. And it's a flood. And with these last few storms we've had, it's been awful. But even several years ago, The mayor and the city, I guess he was the head of the city, whatever the mayor, they came out to the property and looked at it to my property. Their response was, I said, what can I do? You know, what can I do to help get rid of this problem? They said they'd check with the lawyer and never did anything. And so I went and did some management, land management of my own. I had a huge ditch put up. I put sea walls up to prevent the water from going on my property. And then when we had that big storm, the water just went right over the sea wall into all my neighbors. Of course, all theirs flows back into mine. It's just a vicious cycle. And that pipe has to move. It's just... I can't take the city water and then I'm charged for it. I'm charged with stormwater fees for the stormwater that I'm having to deal with. And then it just soaks in the ground and I have a whole pool of water there that last full of mosquitoes and bugs and snakes and all these yucky things. And it's it's there until it goes down in late early spring and then it starts all over again. And I landscaped, I have a swimming pool, I have grandkids, and then I got this ditch. And I don't know what to do about it. I've tried everything. And I've tried talking to the city council and putting in letters, petitions. You're doing nothing. I need help. Will you help me with this? Do you have an engineer somewhere who knows about water? When you're all silent, okay. Anyway, if I could comment on some of the other points. Maybe what we need are cisterns. Do you know what a cistern is? It's underground, it holds water, you have an overflow of water, it goes into the cistern, then when you need it, you pump it out. They do it all over the country, I don't see any reason why we can't. Another technique is maybe a water tower. We used to have a water tower. They took it down, I don't know why. But you got a water tower, you put the water up there, excuse me, till you need it, and then it comes down. And what would be fun if the water tower looked like a UFO? And we could have all these people who come watch our rockets take off, and they can sit up in the UFO. Oh, come on, just one second. I was going to suggest to have Disney build them. Yeah, that would save the city. Anyway, it's just an idea.

Thank you very much. Ms. Sandy, do you know what property she's referring to?

Yes, she's on one of the priority property flooding lists. I know. It's been given to the Stormwater Master Plan consultant to look at. That is one of the areas to look at. And that is an 18-month process.

And that's the thing is, you know, we've got to have this conversation about having funds to pay for these projects.

Yeah, and how to pay for it, and that's what I was thinking, you know. Let's think of that idea. You know, maybe we can have someone else pay for the cisterns, you know, pay for the UFOs, something.

Thank you.

Yeah, I did go out to her property. It's a beautiful property and she is absolutely right. That pipe is just pumping water onto her property. And so I know that it is on the list, but I know if that were my home, I would be just as upset. So

Yeah.

And honestly, it's it's something you have to almost go out and see to really believe what's happening.

So I remember Nelson Sandy said on the short list.

I don't think I don't have it as an easy one because it's not. So it is. We've got to find somewhere to get it to. So that's why I need, you know,

Okay Thank you, thank you city clerk Don Blinson I'm sorry. Can you repeat the name?

Don Blinson.

Yeah, sorry Both y'all stood both y'all stood up and I was like you both can't be done. So I

I appreciate you having me here tonight. My name is Don Blinson. I'm in one of the neighborhoods she spoke about earlier on Parkland St. We were in the major area flooding where the water sat for over nine days in our homes. For several days, we didn't even have folks come and check on us. We had to rely on our neighbors. We were able to get out with canoes, kayaks. And it was a mess. It continues to be a mess. My neighbors are still rebuilding. We have friends and family in the community who are still rebuilding. I haven't had a kitchen since October. So think about that just for a moment that you would have to cook for your family every single day or rely on the fact that you have enough expendable income to go out in the community to eat out that often because you don't have a refrigerator. You can't wash your clothes. You can't walk your dogs for weeks on end because there's still water in the yard and it's not safe. I was sick seven days after the floods because I walked through the waters and they couldn't figure out exactly what I had, but I had cuts and they think that I caught something from being in the water. It was grade three biological water. So all of the mementos everything that touch that water had to go 20 years of my husband's Naval service letters from boot camp photographs that will never get back and mine is just one of the hundreds of stories that are being ignored or being put on the back burner this master plan has not been updated in years we put men on the moon and that master plan hasn't been updated at what point is that going to become a priority to the citizens here. I I don't object to you having money in fact, I think it's it's a priority that we have money, but I also think it's a priority that we look outside the citizens and to the businesses who are wanting to develop and bring more communities in and more stress on the infrastructure that's already failing. I can look behind my home and I've reached out to your maintenance worker over 20 times in a month. And his answer is, oh, we maintained the ditch just a few years ago. No, you didn't. I know because I lived there in that entire time. And in that time, my neighbors have lived there 20, 30, 50 years. And they said they never saw that ditch cleaned. I asked for proof, show me a ticket, show me a maintenance ticket, a signature, nothing. It wasn't until my husband dragged the emails up through the government and to everyone's attention that somebody took a look and came out and even then the county and the city still decided to butt heads because our property literally lies with half of it in the city and half of it in the county because of how the lines were drawn. So nobody wanted to take responsibility. We have no problem paying the stormwater tax. Just do it right and make sure that the money is going where it's supposed to, and it's accounted for.

Thank you. Thank you, Miss Dawn. Got to stop you right there. But everything is very clear. You know, when you see that stormwater master plan, it's Well, I brought it up while we got it addressed and and we're pushing that forward as quickly as we possibly can and obviously allowing more funds to go towards capital projects because well, maintenance is definitely important. I don't think we're going to be able to band aid our way out of this problem for for some of these things. So we're going to. It's going to need real capital projects to to get the job done, especially these historic neighborhoods that you know, unfortunately do not have any stormwater protections as they sit right now. So we got to work on that from every possible angle. City clerk.

Annette Schaumborn.

Is Annette here?

Annette Schaumborn.

Not seeing them.

Daphne Fox Junia.

Is there a Daphne here?

John Honeycutt.

Hello, everybody. I really didn't plan on coming up here, but through my speech way, but I want to speak to the heart of this situation. I'm not related Rodney, so don't hold that against me. I'm going to apologize to you because I was really tough with you on the last election. I'm sorry. But anyhow, real quickly, I excuse the personal reference. In 2012, I was at the peak of my career. and I worked with Georgia and the state of Florida doing underground work with engineers going to municipalities, and my lord, Miami-Dade County makes Titusville seem like a Disney World. And I really, for the sake of me, I want to empathize and let you know that I'm not saying anything to undermine or say that I don't empathize because we raised our children on Bryn Mawr. So I want to empathize. I don't want to take anything away from anybody here that's going through something, that's pulling up drugs, etc. But I want to get to the real thing. How about some optimism here? I don't, for the love of God, I don't think that anybody in this place, all of you right there, and you there, I don't think that you guys really deep in your hearts, you've got some kind of a deep desire to make everybody in the city of Titusville miserable and that you want to see people suffer, that you don't realize that this has been a problem. Now the reason I said 2012 is because personal reference and real quick because that clock is just ticking away. I was diagnosed top of my game teaching engineers. I have forgotten more than I can tell you that I learned. I posted something on Facebook out of a book that I had just to try to help and thank you Mr. Mayor for responding me thanking me. But I want to tell you that in 2012 I was diagnosed with Parkinson's disease. Young onset Parkinson's. They didn't know what it was. And they said that because I lived up in the north end of the town, that there's a, my doctor, Dr. Richard Newman, there's a red dot on our county. And North Brevard has a record of people, young people and adults from space and water and everything. He said, this guy was a genius and I'm glad he was my neurologist. But he told me, he says, there are things going on in North Brevard, not Titusville, it was just North Brevard, the whole thing. said that people younger than you, John, are getting things that we can't even diagnose. The lady mentioned walking in the water. And so I said, okay. So at the same time, so I'm dealing with Parkinson's and everything's wacky. And as a matter of fact, right now, my dopamine's burning at a pretty high speed. So I hope you can understand what I'm saying. So that was a long-range problem. He mentioned, he said, you have Parkinson's, so you have to deal with it at 48 years old, and life's going to be different. But at the same time, two weeks later, I was diagnosed with stage 3C melanoma cancer right here. Okay, that was an immediate need. Compare the immediate need to the problem of like this. I'm so sorry, am I done? Oh my God. Okay, this is it, bottom line is I believe that right here that the long-term possibilities, this thing took, the Parkinson's took years and years and years to fix. It's gonna take years and years and years to fix. It's nothing. If we have to pay more money, dear Lord Jesus, I hate to say this, don't kill me, but I think we need to. Short term, get the cuts out and get it removed. I hope I made sense tonight. I love you guys. I pray for you all daily. And I really don't think this is a conspiracy city. I just think that we just have problems that our forefathers didn't take care of. And let's work together. Would that be cool? What do you think? Work together? All right.

It happens a lot more than you think. Thank you.

Keith Edwards.

He's not here.

Darsha bear.

I didn't write anything down for this opportunity. Um, but I would like to remind you all and the people sitting in here that it was the public's work department manager who fraudulently, um, bought a mower and had it delivered to himself. And I would like to use this opportunity to call for a forensic audit specifically of the public works department. Thank you.

Thank you. City clerk.

Susan Canada.

I'm going to change a little bit of what I say so I'm not so redundant. But I'm going to read a comment that somebody else sent to me today. And it says, developers build neighborhoods and put in stormwater runoff and storage systems. Then they walk away. Taxpayers are on the hook forever for maintaining those systems. Developers build on the good high land first. As they develop on lower, more marginal land, the cost of water management increases and taxes have to go up as they're more expensive to maintain. In this case, my question is, since other states have called a moratorium on building due to lack of water or whatever, you can, even according to the state, stop development for a year, work more on the stormwater and infrastructure, and also, are you charging developers impact fees?

Yes.

Are they high enough or as high as you can go?

As high as we can go.

Where does this money go to?

It goes to increase capacity.

Pardon?

It goes to increase the capacity of our systems.

Does that include stormwater?

Yes or no. Is it stormwater? No, not stormwater.

Why not since they're creating stormwater?

That would be a question for the city attorney on whether we can assess that as an impact fee.

We actually are looking into researching that based on Councilmember Moscoso's request However, it's highly doubtful that we can't because impact fees are very specific. They're sanitary regulated and they're very specific to the development that's being impacted.

From what I understand from what I just read about from the state, it could go. towards something like that?

I'm not saying it is impossible, but it's highly unlikely or preliminary research indicated only two cities, I think. Key West and North Miami. Key West and one was in North Miami. Again, stormwater fees not usually considered impact fees.

For every stormwater or for every impact fee, we have to have a study to justify the fee. And we actually did a study not too long ago when I first got on council to look at raising our fees. And we raised them appropriately based on what we legally were able to do.

From what I understood, from what I read, there's a great possibility. I mean, other people tell me things can be done, but I actually spoke to the governor one time and he approved different things that they told me couldn't be. I think we need to check into that more.

And in regards to the moratorium, there's actually a Senate Bill 180 that actually prohibits local governments from making any new regulation that makes development more difficult.

I just read that, too. And I read that you can take up to one year to work on something. You can't call that moratorium for one year. Up to one year. Passed in 2025. Thank you. Thank you.

City Clerk?

Jolin?

Just listening to you, ma'am, gave me some ideas. Last couple days, I was watching some videos, came across an Amish man. The Amish man says how you want to retain more water on your property because when water's running off, you guys are just selling it back to us. Maybe we can create like a pilot program where we can take the worst houses that are creating the most runoff and kind of work with those homeowners to kind of put a model in their home with some of the money that we have. And if that works out, we can keep going down the line. I think that's something that could be looked at. Like she said, making changes on your landscape can actually retain the water. You can actually pump it back up. There's so many uses. I mean, you can read when it's dry here, you'll have water to. But I know that's not in your best interest because water to sell water and also Like I said, I was here last time, and I'll speak on that in a little bit about the bill that we talked about, disabled people having to come down here if one check bounces for a whole year being punished, which is disgusting. When we're talking about water that's coming down in abundance and there's somebody getting in between, I understand you guys do the work, they do the drilling, they do what they need to do, but there has to be some next-level thinking going forward because, like I said, we put a man on the moon here, but we can't figure out how to retain water for our own uses and create less runoff. That's all.

Thank you. City Clerk?

Yes, sir. Last speaker, Al Barrett.

Al Barrett. I've lived here since 1982. And I want to congratulate you guys. You need it after all this. My daughter, son-in-law, two grandchildren live on Fair Glam. You guys did an incredible job and incredible job there. I don't know what you guys did. Wave a wand or whatever, but it is fixed. Uh, you know, all this. I mean, we really have in some crazy storms. Uh, Waters, you know there, but it flows down and and I just congratulate you guys. Good job.

Thank you. City clerk. All right. City Council member Nelson.

Well, I do want to address one thing we do have in our codes, low impact development. And that's basically the idea that if you develop piece of property, we're encouraging you to use these methods, which will keep the water on your property so it doesn't go out um however since the state has said we can't do any codes more restrictive we talked about making it mandatory but we can't now so we're sort of stuck um i hate to raise fees I hate to see fees raised, but with the flooding that we're getting, I don't think we have a choice. So my vote would be for the 100%. I would say I would like to see us emphasize capital projects. My dad, for many years, had a farm. and love his ditches he had ditches through the whole farm but even when he maintained him the water did not flow so i'd rather see us do capital projects member stockel yes um okay i have a few questions um

When it says flooding projects specifically on the maintenance side, can you just explain what those what would be some examples of what those would be?

Yeah, if you go back to slide 5 like you can see there's options project options for, you know, consideration and kind of at each level shows options. You know some of the ones that I had X off as as quick wins like at the. 75% increase and but maintenance focus we might be able to get like a Mary Lane design and construction or Eloise out design these are these are pipe crossings or You could do more like three or four of them to do design only and then next year fund the construction So there's there's options These are these are estimates So I don't have the exact Cost of design, the exact cost of, I would love to design them all in-house, but I'm down three engineers right now, so if you know anybody.

Is there a difference between the projects for maintenance and ones for capital? No, those are all capital projects.

We can just do more on the orange side.

And then when you say design, does that mean you're looking at like it has significant issues on that street and you're looking at another place for the water to go?

They all need to be designed. Even if we're just keeping the pipe where it is and upsizing it, you have to find a place for that extra water to go. There has to be a water quality component with anything like that. We can't just go and do what we want. You got to look at St. John's. We got to look at our own code to make sure and make sure we're not flooding someone else. A lot of these are in areas where if we move the water, it could flood someone else. So that's very important.

And then do you know why these specific areas, were they poor designed to initially begin with or what happened?

So what I'm seeing is a lot of the older areas were designed to outfall to a wetland, a wetland I don't own, a wetland I don't have easements on, and a wetland that is wetter than it used to be. So a lot of the pipes in the middle of the rainy season are underwater.

Okay. And then... Okay. And then... This is a loaded question. Who owns all the ditches within the city?

Within that that is not a that is not a one-word answer idea.

It's a mix. I'm assuming mix.

Yes. So we own most within the city limits. We own most of them. There's a couple that are owned by maybe HOAs or may there's there's agreements where they're supposed to maintain them outside of the city limit. There are some if it if it's pipe, you know, if it's a ditch between a city County Road and encounter, sometimes the county maintains it. But most of them within the city would be owned by the city.

Do you think it's possible for the ones that we don't own or don't maintain that we could do a better job of educating that these are private ditches versus public ditches? Is there something we can do related to that?

I've talked to GIS. We put the kind of ditches, it's more of a channels layer up there now so you can see where they are. But I have to go through and click on every single one of them and update them as to who owns them. And unfortunately, I'm probably the only one who can do that. So I don't have access to edit the GIS right now. So they're working with IT to get me access. So when I have five minutes, I can start updating it and then we can make it public.

Okay. And my concern with that one is, especially as we're approving new developments, if they say, hey, this is private, we own it. We're like, okay, that's great. We don't have any expense. And then 60 years from now, you have those residents, the HOA has disbanded. They're like, help us, help us. And the council's like, what do you mean? We don't. And you're caught. And I think that's what we're seeing right now is.

That's that's this miss laws problem is that was yes to be maintained by the very sad and angry at the so the new St. John's law that just wanted to affect last year they have to show a maintenance plan they have to show a fiscal analysis that shows that they have the ability to maintain these things.

in order to get a permit with st john's okay and then um i see that purchasing property is an option um which i do think is a good option i will say i don't like this option in theory because it makes me feel that we didn't plan appropriately as a city like we shouldn't have to go purchase property if we designed everything to meet standards so I we might need to look into it at this point, but that that's another one that makes me kind of angry. I'm thinking about it.

If you think about our city, I've got a river, a river 95, a railroad water table.

Yeah, it's yes. So, um, I would be in favor of at this point. setting it at the highest but i will tell you as we move forward i don't know if i'm there yet to do that what i would hope that we do um independently is one of the things i want to do is look at the current 4.8 million that we've allocated and i appreciate you going through that um and seeing does that make sense like we have to pay fees to the property appraiser we have to pay fees to like going through that and is that does that still need to happen that way which I would argue it probably does but making sure that's good use of the current and then I think going and identifying I think cleaning the ditches and is important but it's only a part of the puzzle so I just want to be very mindful of every dollar because I know we could give you 10 times more and you'd have projects for it is what what can we do to balance that to make sure that we're taking care I don't want any flooding in somebody's home again if I see it We have to do it whatever we can at this point.

So everyone's got so.

Yes. Um, yeah, this is a really tough one. Um, I'm really not in favor of the 100%. I know it's just going on the trim notice, but but I think that is going to cause a bit of panic. We saw that with Brevard County. And that was the big deal. And so I think 1 piece I feel like we're missing and Sandy, I commend you and I know you don't have a free 2nd, so I'm not trying to add more to your plate, but I do think that we need the education piece. If you look at sorrel, they show what projects they're doing, and they show the metrics and the impact. And I feel like we are missing that because the projects that we are doing. people really have no clue unless you're maybe the two or three homes that are affected by it. And so I personally would like, but I'm also not trying to put more on staff, but I would love a monthly report on what is being done. I think the community, this is the, it's their money. I'd love to be able to see before and after photos. I'd love to see flood reduction metrics on what we have, because I think part of it is that There's a lot of distrust in our in our government right now, not necessarily just with us, but in government in general. And I think it's our job to to educate people on what we're doing, how we're spending those dollars before we ask for additional funds. And so I think that is something we can definitely improve on. I am extremely guilty of adding to her list. I mean, I think I'm the number one adder to that list. Because I just don't know what to do. We're like, okay, we don't have the funds. I don't know what to do. Let's put it on the list and let's see how we can figure this out. And so there's got to be a balance. So, yeah, I'm honestly not in favor of the 100%, but I would love more transparency on our side. And not that transparency is the word, but more just education on what we're doing right now.

We can look at that on the maintenance side. We don't have any flooding projects funded, so... There wouldn't be much to show there, but we can look at, um, you know, showing what we've maintained. Right, right. We're working through a new asset management software to help this better right now. I get written things of what the guys did, so I have to figure out a way to show that on a screen.

But I can work on it. Nice miracle.

Well, we definitely have a problem and we can't fix the problem. if we don't have any money to fix the problem with. So I agree with Ms. Moscoso that we do need to have an education piece in there, but I agree that we need to raise it 100% because if we don't, we're just kicking the can down the road. We've got to get it fixed. And the only way to get it fixed is we've got to do the capital portion and we've got to do the maintenance portion. You can't do one and not do the other because one supports the other. So that's where my mind is right now.

And I want to point out, we'll have our rate consultant at the presentation meeting at the next meeting. They'll show a comparison of other stormwater fees. We're going to be high. We're going to be very high. But it's very hard to compare. I was talking to the county today. They don't fund maintenance to their stormwater fee. That's general fund. That's road and bridge. So if this tax assessment goes through, think about what that's going to do to county maintenance. Melbourne's the same way. So I think we're in better shape because we already do fund maintenance through our non-edible warm assessment. But I will caution, we are definitely on the high end. Yeah.

Thank you member Nelson. I have to agree with Megan. I think it would be sort of cool if we had either in Titusville talking points. This is what we're doing to stop flooding. Here's before. Here's after. On the website so that people could see what we're trying to do. Um I'm trying to say it in a way where it's not saying that you're doing it. Oh, yeah, that's true.

We have a couple projects, ditch clearing projects that we're working on this week that I can start with. Member Stoeckel.

Yes. I guess, Member Moskoski, are you in favor of any of the rate increase? I guess I'm concerned if we don't do it. The flood like I don't know how we will help move some of these capital projects forward to ensure that the flooding doesn't continue. So I'm not in favor of it either, but I don't see at this point another way. And if we don't approve it now, we cannot. Yeah, no, no, I I'll be happy.

I mean, I won't be happy. I will go along with. The 100%, although that doesn't mean at time that we vote, I think that I can do some research. Absolutely OK.

Member Nelson.

So can I make a motion?

Is it to extend the meeting?

Oh, God. Oh.

By the way, in case you're wondering, our ordinance says that 1030, our meeting ends. We have to make a motion to extend. So just bear with us a second.

Okay. Moved. Move to extend it to 11. Second. Second.

Motion to extend the meeting to 11. Second by Vice Mayor Cole. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. Thank you very much. Member Nelson, you have the floor.

Move to approve the proposed fiscal year 2027 Stonewall assessment rate at 100%.

Second.

A motion by Member Nelson, second by Vice Mayor Cole. Any further discussion? City Clerk, call the roll.

Vice Mayor Cole. Yes. Member Stoeckel. Yes. Member Moscoso. Yes. Member Nelson. Yes. Mayor Cotters.

Yes. Motion carries.

Thank you very much, City Manager. Yes, sir. We already went over 12C at the beginning of the meeting data centers. So we'll move on to the 12D, the zoning district density standards. And this is during the May 6, 2026 regular planning and zoning commission. They recommended to the City Council direct staff to look into removing the density from the zoning districts and to allow the comprehensive plan to regulate density, basically not to have two different standards. And Brad has gone through that, and he's recommending that we adopt the Planning and Zoning Commission decision to remove the standards from the zoning districts and just allow the comprehensive plan to regulate density. Brad, are you still there?

Thank you, City Manager, City Clerk.

No cards.

No cards. Mr. Parrish, do you have anything to add? I believe we already had a discussion about this once.

Just that if you decide to go forward with this, we'll work with the Planning and Zoning Commission on the specifics of that ordinance and bring that back to you.

City Council falls in your court.

Member Nelson moved to approve PNC's recommendation to remove the maximum density standards from the zoning districts and allow the plan to rule.

Second motion by Member Nelson, second by Vice Mayor Cole. Any discussion? Member Moscoso.

Yes, I, I kind of like having both because I think our residents understand our zoning a little bit better and it's really hard to kind of navigate even the comprehensive plan. Also, what are the questions I had? Because this was actually brought up by PNC by member Gerard and then. Actually met with him and he realized, actually, I'm not in favor of this. So he kind of switched. And part of it was I'm trying to find my question. And I asked this of Brad if removing the density from the zoning code, if it would cause any of our current properties to be nonconforming. Meaning, let's say a hurricane takes down a property and it was owned a certain way with a certain density. If it has to be rebuilt, it won't be able to be built at the same. So I kind of like having both because I believe for our residents, it just adds just an extra layer of protection.

Member Stockel.

Yes, I would agree. I was trying to recall my notes from last meeting when we discussed this and um, I think the It would be clear for people that are applying and it gives them not the oh, but it says here one thing and then this, I think it's more clear having in both areas so that they'll be able to know. So I don't see any reason to do it at this point.

Vice mayor. No. I personally just want the same number in both.

Does that make sense? Yeah.

You know, I don't really care where it's written. Yeah. It needs to be written in both the same because as I think they brought up, like, the ordinance might say a different density number than the comp plan. And, you know, then they have an argument. Do we follow the ordinance? Do we follow the comp plan? And it gets into this he said, she said of what do you value the most. I think we need to set the standard and be clear and consistent throughout. If nobody knows the rules, how are you supposed to play the game? Right? Yep. Member Nelson.

So I see your point. I didn't have a problem with having him both places, but apparently, according to Brad, we have conflicts between the comp plan and the zoning code. Which? If we only had one, we wouldn't have that problem.

So zoning districts are typically well, they go back. The comprehensive plan talks about the most, it's supposed to describe inside the comprehensive plan what is the allowable intensity of a land use category. And so what that means is you've got a floor-air ratio, and then as part of that, there may be some kind of density you might apply to that intensity as well. So our comprehensive plan allocates or identifies the maximum residential density in several of the land use categories because it considers them to be the only places where you can allow residential uses in addition to that intensity. What the zoning districts do is they are helping implement those policies of the comprehensive plan. So you think about the comp plan as being that 10,000 foot look. or you're up that high looking down on the property, and this is your planning tool, your holding category. That's what the land use categories are. They're pretty much just holding categories for future development. The zoning districts are the development standards themselves when you want to come in and actually put something vertical on the property. So when the zoning district says that for a single family subdivision or for a townhome development or even a multifamily development must have X number of square feet of land per unit or X number of square feet for a platted lot, that is a development standard that's typical in zoning districts. You generally don't see, in addition to that, a maximum density, which is already prescribed in comp land. So we, when the Planning and Zoning Commission brought this up to us, we didn't see any issue with that. There are conflicts as far as, I'll give you an example, the R1C, which is the smallest standard single family zoning district we have, 7,500 square feet lots, has a residential density in the zoning district of 5.61. Well, there's no such thing as a fractional density, but we have that in there. And then the land use category that you find that zoning district typically in is the low-density residential land use category, which has a max of five units per acre. So we find that sometimes when we have applicants or small-time developers wanting to come in and develop on infill properties or marginal properties or something small, they come across these conflicts sometimes where they thought they can get a certain type of development on there, but then the comp plan said otherwise. So we think it's just for clarity, keeping the policies relevant to where they should be, comp plan have the density as prescribed and allowed by statute, and the development standards, lot sizes, number of square feet per unit in the zoning districts. That's our recommendation. If you decide to go otherwise, you could send us back to the Planning and Zoning Commission and ask to work on this more with a proposal. and not specifically draft an ordinance yet, and then we can come back with a draft, basically, before you make a decision on going forward with an ordinance.

Or just deny it.

I'm sorry? Yes, you could do that.

Or just deny it. So can I change my motion? Okay. Can I move that we deny P&C's request?

Second. There's a motion and a second. Any discussion? Yeah. Yeah. Vice mayor.

Okay. I don't really have a problem with it as long as they both say the same thing. Is there any way we can?

Yeah, that's what I was going to say. I'm in favor of denying it at this point. And I would just like to, if the zoning have the zoning standards match and have a maximum. So at least it's consistent.

It sounds like you're asking us to go back and clean it up. So we're still doing an ordinance potentially.

Yeah. I mean, I'm always in favor of cleaning up anything that's incorrect.

I just don't, I like keeping them, keeping the density inside zoning districts, but basically we're right sizing it with the land use categories. Okay.

Is there an amendment to a motion?

That would be the amendment. We go back and clean it up.

Well, you made the motion to deny the request.

Deny the request.