City Council - workshop

Tuesday, September 8, 2026

The Casa Grande City Council held a work session on its Safe City Initiative, discussing the implementation and effectiveness of ALPRs, PETZ cameras, and drones. Officials addressed public concerns about privacy and data security, emphasizing the program's role in crime prevention and resolution.

About this meeting

Government Body
City Council
Meeting Type
City Council
Location
Casa Grande, AZ
Meeting Date
September 8, 2026

Transcript

16 sections

4:57 – 8:11Speaker 2

Okay. It's been 30 minutes since 6 in the morning. Please forgive us for that. Thank you all for coming. Especially to those who have not participated in our council meetings so far. This will be a Safe City Initiative Work Session. So, before we start today's discussion, I would like to talk to residents about our Safe City Initiative, FLOG, and the changes that have come about. We are paying close attention to you. We have heard the opinions of the residents who believe that this scientific method will help prevent and clarify the errors. We have also heard the opinions of the residents who believe that this scientific method will help prevent and clarify the errors. We have also heard the opinions of the residents who believe that this scientific method will help prevent and clarify the errors. We have also heard the opinions of the residents who believe that this scientific method will help prevent and clarify the errors. We have also heard the opinions of the residents who believe that this scientific method will help prevent and clarify the errors. We have also heard the opinions of the residents who believe that this scientific method will help prevent and clarify the errors. We have also heard the opinions of the residents who believe that this scientific method will help prevent and clarify the errors. We have also heard the opinions of the residents who believe that this scientific method will help prevent and clarify the errors. We have also heard the opinions of the residents who believe that this scientific method will help prevent and clarify the errors. We have also heard the opinions of the residents who believe that this scientific method will help prevent We will investigate all the initiatives used by the city as part of our Safe City Initiative, how the data is collected, accessed, monitored and used, as well as the existing security standards and auditing methods. Therefore, it is our responsibility to investigate all these things together under the CET Council. Our aim is to protect the rights and rights of the people who serve our community, along with the necessary resources needed to make our community safe. This means that we need strong security systems. We need clear guidelines on which facilities to access information to someone. We need a specific and meaningful auditing process. If there is any misuse, there should be a responsible action for it. There is no point in having a law. We have to be prepared to monitor it and implement it. So today's session is part of that process. We will continue to evaluate our Safe CET program and we will continue to hear the opinions of the residents. If we have to strengthen our laws or safety standards more, we are ready to make the necessary changes to discuss them. I would like to make one more thing clear. Even if this is a 10-year contract, if this method does not meet our expectations, if our community's needs are not met, we will not be stuck in this contract. We have the right to revoke this contract. We have the responsibility and opportunity to continue to evaluate whether the security standards in the country are strong enough to operate in the way intended by the Constitution. Therefore, I don't think everyone in our community has the same opinion on this matter. That's okay. It is a part of a sustainable community. What I expect is that we should continue to have honest and honest discussions, to listen to each other, to look at what is best for public safety, privacy, responsibility, and Castro Valley. It is not necessary for our residents to choose between safety and privacy. We have responsibility to ensure both. So I call on our CET Manager Larry Rains.

8:18 – 16:49Speaker 4

Thank you, Mayor. Thank you for your advice. Before the elections are over, I have a few more things to add to this. As you may have noticed, almost a year ago, Nagaram Floke Technologies signed a 10-year contract to run the Safe City program. I know that there are a number of legal mechanisms in this program that are being used by law-abiding people. It will be explained to you by the Chiefs this evening. The aim of today's session is to make clear the role of FLOKI technologies implemented in the CASA grant to the Mayor and Council, and to make it a part of the CASA grant's public security system. This session aims to be a detailed discussion between the elected officials and the employees. In this meeting, we will not accept any inappropriate actions. To share opinions related to today's session, please visit our city's Engage Casa Grande website. As you may know, some of the opinions made by the Mayor and Council have already been sent to the Mayor and Council. Also, some people have registered their names to conduct presentations to the public. The official questions, answers and facts related to today's council agenda are available on the Safe City Initiative website of the city. I know that the chiefs will talk about this in detail. In particular, Chief McCarty and Chief Ramiras will discuss the history and use of this constitutional law, the policies used for this, and the actions taken to investigate and respond to the crimes. This session will allow the Mayor, Council and the community to make sure that the city understands how this constitutional law is implemented and at the same time that its use is responsible and that the rules and regulations in place are in line with the legal requirements. So, Honourable Mayor, Council Members, I hand over this address to Chief of Mayors and Chiefs of Mayors. Thank you. To talk about where we stand now, we have to go back to where we started in Casa Grande. At the beginning of the 2000s, automatic license plate readers were available. This was only used in patrol cars, i.e. the vehicle was lucky enough to avoid the culprit or the perpetrator. However, it was available at the beginning of the 2000s. In 2015, it was stopped at Casa Grande and was under the old vigilante system that existed at that time. From 2015 to January 2023, we did not have any interest. The reason why we were interested in this in 2023 was because of the two murders that took place in 2022. We did not have any interest in this case, but we got in touch with other cities that had this case, they helped us, and it led us to arrest and punish the two murder cases. So, we talked internally and decided why we shouldn't have such an expensive financial fund. So, we used our RICO fund and bought 18 of them without any cost to the city. We planned to conduct a pilot program for a year and see the results. We also did a survey to see if it was worth asking the council for a budget fund. Apart from our actual purchases, the county attorney's office bought four or five items for us. It was in 2023. We were very successful, but when the criminals came to our town and made a mistake, we were disappointed that we could not find them. We only knew that they were somewhere in our town. So we went to Larry and asked him if he could include the money required to get 10 LPRs and 10 PETZ cameras in the budget. He agreed and gave us a $1,44,000 budget for those cameras. Before the discussion started, he approached us about a thing called the Safe City Initiative. They assured us that they will be able to use all the tools that are available in our vendor or that are available in our vendor. In it, LPRs, PETZs, Drones, and many other methods were included. Again, we had an open discussion. We spoke to the council. We spoke to the city authorities. We thought that the security system would improve our awareness and response, and that it would help not only the police department to act more effectively, but also to provide assistance to other departments and surrounding areas in the city. We understood that we had a set of cameras in the public works department that the police did not have access to. There may have been another set of cameras in the parks that we did not have access to. So, everything was in a state of disarray. We were fully and responsibly operating. We did not get any detailed information about the calls we received from our employees and those who were suspicious. Since the city is growing in agriculture and population, we thought that the idea of a safe city would be helpful for this development. We looked at Bavi and found that it was more than ten years old. We wanted to find the right conditions for the city's development. To access the cameras at the city's headquarters, to share information with other agencies and departments in the city, it was necessary for us to use those cameras. So, when we started budgeting for the financial year from 2025 to 2026, we understood that the Parks and Recreation Department provided $2 lakh for the cameras. The office of the CET manager provided $2 lakh for the cameras. The police officer had asked for $1,44,000 for the cameras. So I approached Larry and asked him if he could take the bribe from the police officer for buying these cameras. If that is necessary, we will have one law that can be used by the police. He agreed to it. In addition, we received $3,00,000 from the Constitutional Court. Chris Lopez and Teresa Martinez each donated $1,50,000 for this. We received a grant of $2,52,000 from the government. We also received two from the nearby Gila River, Tohono O'odham Inuit. One was worth $56,000 and the other was worth $55,000. So we had to use that money. If I remember correctly, the amount spent for the first time would be the amount we paid first. But we had to use some of that money quickly. We had to use 3 lakhs and some other funds that we had earned through the grant. So we rescheduled. If the city has been in this system for 10 years, you can see the cost from the 1st to the 10th year. If we do not change the balance, we will have to use the debt in our fund for about four years. For about four years, for the first four years of this system, we can make money. If we cannot determine the value of this system within the first four years, we will have to re-examine whether it was a bad purchase. We have gained a lot more than we expected so far. As the Mayor said, we will investigate again to ensure that each budget is meeting the requirements of the Council and the Councilors, and to ensure that it meets our expectations. So far, we have money that does not affect the other methods of the city on our side. We will continue to try to find large deposits that do not affect the other methods of the city. Brayan

16:57 – 22:24Speaker 3

On the screen, you can see the two ALPRs currently in use at Casa Grande. The one on the left is the old model ALPR and the one on the right is the new version. Even though they are slightly different, they both do the same job. We have now been able to install 93 out of 100 units. The remaining 7 units are on 8 right-of-ways, so it takes some time to get the licenses needed to install them. ALPRs receive license plate details. They receive vehicle pictures, vehicle details, pictures taken, time, place, etc. They do not use artificial intelligence to recognize faces. They do not recognize people by looking at their faces. They do not receive biometric details. They do not track a person's phone. They do not cause traffic jams, nor do they track a vehicle like a GPS. I will quickly go back to that slide. There is a way of how the camera works at the bottom. That is, when a vehicle passes in front of the camera, the picture is displayed and the plate details are included. If necessary, or if there is any information about the vehicle, conduct a comprehensive survey. If any information is obtained in the vehicle, the employee will receive that information. If these details are not needed, it will be removed, or if it can be used clearly, its picture will be transferred to Evidence.com. This is the picture of our pan-tilt zoom or PETZ-PTZ camera. We have installed 89 out of 100. The remaining 11 are in ADOT, ADOT, right of way, just like the LPRs. It takes time to get the permit for installing them. They are mainly located in the places where boats, major roads, parks, as well as electric light parades, downtown areas, Paul Mason Park, and Carmacknott Park have been started. They do not use face recognition technology and do not record sound. Let's see how they work when we get a call for a service. If there is a camera at the place where the call is received, we can enter that camera. We can get the latest information and hand it over to the employees. Or, if the incident happened earlier, we can check the information from the last 30 days and find the old information. We have 10 community cameras. They are located in 5 municipalities and 5 private places. In the City Hall, there are two of these in the CET Hall campus. One is in front of the door and the other is in the basement of the building. One is in the airport, one is in the North End Operation Center, and one is in the Parking Area of the Recreation Center. These cameras don't use face recognition technology like PET-Z cameras. They don't record sound. Still, they can make noise because they look like LPR and LPR. They are not LPRs. The picture of the camera in front of the CET Hall can be seen here. It has a green front board and a flashing light at the top. These are not ALPR, ALPR cameras. Just like PETZ cameras, if you receive a call for service, you can access the camera and check the details of the past 30 days. Our cameras are working together. Currently, we are working together with the Casa Grande Union High School District. We have a security problem with them. We also have a security problem with the elementary school district. We are now in the process of working together with their cameras. The schools made their own security problems and handed them over to us. Those security problems were accepted by the boards. Those MOUs will come in front of you and you will accept them. The cameras we access in these schools are not float cameras. These cameras were in place long before Safe City. The police department did not have any part to decide when or where to install these cameras. We only have the permission to access them. The school decides which cameras we need to access. The MOU regulates when and how to use those cameras. This is only for public safety reasons. An audit of the use of cameras is also taken care of. The operation of these cameras begins when there is a call for immediate assistance. Employers who respond to school to access those cameras for a temporary information center can also provide temporary information.

22:35 – 22:54Speaker 4

Mayors, Council members, and others who are participating in this camera convention in Arizona, please note that those cameras cannot be accessed. They cannot see or access any of the cameras in the buildings. This is completely under the control of the Casa Grande Police Department. The city has 31 sensors for the Kandathal Convention.

23:06 – 26:15Speaker 3

With the help of a year's worth of information, we decided to replace the sensors. This started in Penal and Kottanudu and then spread throughout the city. It passed through Karmik and then through Charitraparamaya district and reached around Lenkola centre and ended near Jimmiker Boulevard. When a fire breaks out, it is detected and alerted by the employee. This shows the location of the fire at a 90-degree angle. The employee can see it in their car's map. They arrive at the site quickly and investigate what is happening. They are not recording messages. They are not cameras either. Again, they say that when they use a rope and break it, they find it and give it to the workers in advance. They investigate the place. Our drone is a first responder. There are four drones next to us. They are in two launch locations. One is above CET Koduthi and the other above the Recreation Center. LPR, PETZ, and community cameras do not have a face recognition function. There is no audio recording in this. There is also no accurate patrolling. Therefore, we do not use DFR drones to collect evidence accurately in the city. DFR only responds when calls for help come from the people. This is how it works. When a 9,011 call comes, the drone flies. The information seen by the pilot is given to the pilots and the employees and they are informed about the situation. Therefore, this is where Talsamaya Information Centre, Real-Time Information Centre, and all other agencies are united. ALPR, PTZ, Drone, first response system, and all other systems can be operated in this room. We have appointed a person at the Temporary Information Center. According to the rotating schedule, he is there 40 hours a week. This week, there is one person there now. From red to white, from 1 a.m. to 11 a.m. Next week, they will be there from Wednesday to Saturday at the same time. When they receive a notification, they check the PTZ cameras, look at the ALPR data, and hand it over to the employee on the street. This is the main responsibility of the employee. Also, when they respond to the service calls, they receive accurate information.

26:24 – 36:36Speaker 4

One of the most disappointing things for us at the Mayor's Council, and I'm sure it will be the same for you too, but let me start with one thing. Let's go back for a minute. We don't think that people have the right to express their opinions. We recognize and respect that people have the right to express a different opinion on the basis of this constitution. That's all we need. People need to find some time to learn about this. Let me give you an example. A governor said in a public security forum that when you pass by LPRs, they will connect you to your mobile phone and track you. That's a shame. I feel ashamed when he said that. Because it has no basis. As you know, we have allowed people with different opinions to visit our Realtime Information Center, to ask questions to FLOC members, and to see our activities directly. But none of them came. They filled our time. So, this is all we need from the people. If you have your own opinions, that's a very good thing. Everyone will have their own opinions. You know that, right? However, we would like people to find time to learn about some details and things, and to ask people who can give accurate answers. Don't just rely on social media and your own privacy. First, are you tracking us? No. ALPR only shows a picture of a particular time when a vehicle arrives at a certain place. It does not continuously track you like a GPS system. You have heard of many cases, and people bring it to you. It is about geofencing on mobile phones and GPS tracking on continuously tracking vehicles. When you go from point A to point Z, I can understand where you were. We have found that in most cases related to LPR, this is a picture of a specific time in the public. You can pass an LPR with us at 1 o'clock in the afternoon, another 20 minutes after 1 o'clock at night, another 40 minutes after 1 o'clock at night, but we cannot know where you were. There is no tracking in it. Does FLOW use LPR facial recognition? Even if we are interested in using facial recognition in flocks, we can't because we don't have that much technology in our applications. So, no, there is no facial recognition in any part of this technology. Do flocks sell data to users? No, flocks do not sell data to users. This is in the curriculum. I have asked many people who sell it. If anyone can prove it, we will use flocks tomorrow. We have not been able to prove that a lawmaker we spoke to is selling data to Flow. But some other LPR companies have given their data to their repossessors. Flow is not doing that. Therefore, Flow is not guilty of that. Is LPR following the fourth principle? That is a big question. I have heard that the employees and law enforcement officials who were elected are saying that this is a violation of Article 4. However, a state Supreme Court or U.S. Court has not yet ruled that a particular picture on a public site is a violation of Article 4. A court has not yet ruled that Article 4 is a violation of Article 4. It's not that it doesn't happen in Vaavi, but when we sit here today, when we use this instrument, there is no such rule. Our own county attorney has used the information we got from the instrument that we use to deal with cases in all municipalities in Pinellas County. I think that Brad Miller would not have used that evidence if he had not been appointed as a county attorney. But it has been used in many cases. There is a responsibility to implement the rules and regulations of the Constitution. If there is a legal purpose, we will only allow access to our applications. We need a clear justification. We need a clear justification. We need a clear justification. We need a clear justification. We need a clear justification. We need a clear justification. We need a clear justification. We need a clear justification. We need a clear justification. We need a clear justification. We need a clear justification. We needed to give people reasons to investigate. But I didn't think that was enough. So we decided that we needed a case number instead of just one reason. Responsibility. The Supervisory, who is more or less in charge of the operations in Tiruchal, makes decisions for administrative investigations. Since we are responsible for this administrative decision, we are responsible for giving it an answer. We know that. There is an audit assistant program in this program that integrates five different departments. I'll show you that in the next slide. Let me tell you about it right away. We have added various tests to our internal audit. Our sergeants inspect the records of those under them every week. The things that the sergeants do, the lieutenants come and inspect again. Once a month, our Records Division Supervisor selects some cases regularly and makes sure that the case files are checked and that the selected cases are in the report. In the meantime, we have not obtained anything from them. We are working with a company that audits our body-worn cameras. That would be the third party that is not in a legal department. We have approached them. We are trying to talk to the people who are outside of our auditing to reduce the mental state that the police are investigating themselves until they reach that level. So what comes with this? Flow has also made it clear that it is mandatory for all your employees to use this Audit Assistant. I don't know why they didn't do this earlier. We started using this right before it came out. This flags searches. This is a flag, so we need to test it. This is not a misuse of the system or other obstacles. But if we search for something outside the 30-day limit, we'll get a notification. If the same number plate is searched using different case numbers, it is very unusual, then we will get information. If the same number plate is searched again and again using the same number plate, we will get information. If the same number plate is searched in networks outside our department and is not searched in our own network, we will get information. If Brian and I search for a vehicle at 1.30 in the morning, 8 in the evening, 12 at night, 2 in the morning, 7 in the morning, at unusual times, we will get information. This raises the status of the investigation. They should be able to justify it. From 2022 until now, there has been only one incident where one of our employees has misused someone. It was investigated openly and that employee did it legally, so he was completely acquitted. Okay, please everyone calm down. Please allow me to complete this statement. So, when a search is made, there are a few steps. First, it is flagged. That means it should be investigated. The second step is the supervisor's investigation. In that, the supervisor takes the case, investigates it, and makes sure that everything is legal and within our rules. or it will go to the command chain as an investigation. It will come to me to make the next right decision. There may be differences in this matter. If someone tries to search something on the 31st of April, they will not get any information. Just show that it has been deleted. We will give counseling to that person. We will talk to them to make sure that they understand the system. We will not doubt what will happen if someone misuses this system. We will try our best to get them out of the job and get them out of the legal system. So, we will take some of the things we have learned here.

36:47 – 39:32Speaker 3

A recent incident took place in Glendale after the Glendale Police was arrested. He came to Casa Grande. With the help of ALPR and DFR, we got Glendale's help and we were able to identify the person who came out of a house. We informed Glendale. When he walked out of the house, they arrested him. Another example is of a car that was stolen. Again, the ALPR was informed. The driver arrived at the scene and saw the car in an empty space. There was no driver there. When they were investigating, they saw the DFR flying up and a woman jumping off the roof of the house. The DFR pilot informed the driver on the ground. They stopped them. It was clear that she was the one who stole the car. She was also a police officer, according to the warrant. In July, three people were trying to get in and out of a grocery store here. They tried to get in and out of the store. When they got in, a resident in the store stopped them. They got out of the car and got in and out of the car. We were able to find the vehicle in ALPR. The number plate in the vehicle was broken. They had removed the number plates to correct us. He went to the ALPR office and found the number plate in the vehicle. It was handed over to the detectives for further investigation. A call related to a criminal offense. This is one of the most frequent calls used by the DFR. The employee was walking back and forth against the ground. Normally, when a lot of employees come for a ground search, the DFR can reduce that job to half. A side of the DFR road was examined, the employee was on the other side. The employee saw the opposite from their side. If this is the case, we will have to file a complaint, and we will have to file a complaint against another employee on the side of the road. This will make us more or less unscrupulous. The last example is another murder case in Texan. After committing the crime, they decided to come to Casa Grande. The Texan police approached us. We were able to find out the truth using ALPR and DFR documents. The Texan police were able to arrest them.

39:47 – 42:48Speaker 4

Mayor and Council, I am not boring you by telling you about the income from the settlement. But so far, we have been able to achieve more than 100 victories. We identified about 70 cases and recovered the stolen vehicles. Moreover, it is important to find the missing three people. I believe we have been able to save the lives of these three people in this heat. The drones were the first to respond and participated in 514 calls. They were able to find 555 suspects related to those calls. The most important thing here is that when there are people in that room, the maximum response time to reach a place is less than 80 seconds. This not only helps us, but also helps them. Sometimes it helps those who are suspicious, because the officers can know what is going on there before they arrive at the scene. When there are people in that room, our drone arrived there before the first officer arrived in about 60% of the cases. These numbers are not mine. They are from the Department of Public Safety. This is a summary of the numbers from February to the beginning of the year. This year, from January to September 1, the previous year was the same. Last year, we could see that only 1158 cases were reported out of the 2800 reported cases. The most important thing about the Police Department is that the number of cases to be found is increased from 57% to 62% or 63%. Again, these are the statistics of the Department of Public Safety, not ours. In Casa Grande, from January 2026 to September 1, there were 42.33% cases in total. In May 2024 to May 2025, our number of cases decreased by 7.97%. Now, we only have half a year's worth of information in our hands. However, to avoid being affected by a large number of crimes, something more destructive has to happen. As far as what this means to us, I'm not sure if this is the only way to get credit for it. I don't know if this is a resistance or not. I don't know if this is because when we arrest a thief, we can put him in jail quickly or not. Because we arrest them quickly, they can't commit a crime in the remaining days. We don't have thieves who think that they can run a business only because they don't have money to pay rent. They don't think that if they pay rent, they can go to work anywhere. We have thieves who run a business. We have thieves who run a business. If they are in jail, only a few people in our city have to be arrested.

42:59 – 46:13Speaker 3

About a year ago, SAFE-CET was introduced into the system, and for the past 12 months, we have been conducting continuous training with people and those who are related to us. At that time, we have conducted eight workshops on SAFE-CET or camera recognition. On August 18, we held the first training session on SAFE-CET. On September 15, this issue was brought forward by the CET Council and was approved by the Council. On December 1, the Kasa Grande Union High School District Camera Registration Council was on agenda. On February 12, we updated the Public Safety Advisory Board. On April 27, we held the Public Safety Open House. On May 4, the Council discussed the Registration of the Elementary School District Camera. On August 13, we gave an update to the Public Safety Advisory Board, and today is the 8th session of this series. We have an advanced portal. In that advanced portal, we have information about our DFR flight paths. You can see when we fly, how long we fly, and there is also a small red arrow that shows the correct path taken by the drone. Through social media, we have a safe CET spotlight. We have held a number of short-term meetings and community meetings. We have also held meetings with the Chamber of Commerce, Citizens Academy, City Leadership Academy, Rotary Club, APS, and other legal entities. We have also invited people who do not agree with us to attend this event. Responsibility is important. We are the first agency in Arizona to use Audit Assistant. We do not share information with federal agencies. When Attorney General Flock announced that he would conduct an investigation on Flock, we asked them to join our information center on time. Immediately after that, we contacted their office and asked them. They will come to see what we are doing in person tomorrow. President Martinez and President Lopez, we have welcomed them. They have said that this month will be the last. They will see what we are doing now. Currently, we only share information with agencies in Arizona. Now we are helping with a total of 60 agencies. There is a bit of confusion in what I said earlier about the suitability and public belief. But our suitability portal has a flight dashboard. Our law is online. We have a lot of reports, facts, and departments. If they feel that we are misusing the system, they can call the police department at 52 Poojam 421 87 Poojam Poojam. If they need to talk to the supervisor on duty, that would be the fastest way to talk about their concerns.

46:25 – 50:01Speaker 4

Mayor Wood has one more thing to say about the Attorney General's office. They are coming tomorrow. We are giving them our orders. We will show them how we operate and explain how things are done. So they can check it out. We have contacted the Governor's office today and asked them to come here. We have asked the people of our local newspaper to come and see this. Like we said, we were kind to people, even though some of them did not use that opportunity, we are doing all this with the mindset that we have nothing to hide. Come and see what we are doing. We understood that the lessons we learned, auditing, is the responsibility of an agency. That is why the sergeants, the lieutenants, our record supervisor, as well as the deputy chief Romero and I accepted audits on a daily basis. We know that there is a lot of responsibility involved in handling this court case, so we want to make sure of it. Does that mean that such things will never happen in the Kasa grant? No. You read that those who misuse the system are caught up in the system. This is not a system that breaks down. This is a human-like loss. When people decide to do wrong things, they get caught up. I don't think it will happen here, but I can't be sure that it will never happen, because we are still working as humans. We have understood, as I said at the very beginning of this story, that even if we make a lot of changes, our laws will continue to change. From the time we started this, to this day, in my memory, our laws have changed at least three times. Therefore, we will continue to implement those policies. We will continue to implement the best possible methods. We are working together with other departments in the county. They need to implement our policies. We need them too. To see if they are paying attention to anything we are leaving behind, we will provide them with the best possible policies. In short, if you haven't paid attention to this, Floak is not the only reason for an arrest. FLOC is an initiative for our employees to use FLOC for their safety and research needs. FLOC is an initiative for our employees to use FLOC for their safety and research needs. FLOC is an initiative for our employees to use FLOC for their safety and research needs. FLOC is an initiative for our employees to use FLOC for their safety and research needs. FLOC is an initiative for our employees to use FLOC for their safety and research needs. Investigation is needed for the research that is being conducted on it. We have all heard about the terrible stories of a family being kicked out of a house in the middle of a flood. Okay, it's the employee's fault. That employee did not conduct his investigation. We are not doing that. It's just an excuse from us. Before we take action, we need human investigation. Our limitations are the law of policy and the rule of law. As I said earlier, the judicial system does not have the power to decide who is entitled to the right to freedom of speech in the Supreme Court of the United States or in the Supreme Court of the United States. So, we tried to pass on time for questions. So, do you have anything else? So, I will open it for questions. Thank you. Okay, we can open the questions or opinions from the council.

50:11 – 1:08:08Speaker 4

Madam. Okay. Go on, Madam. I understand. I understand. No. Go on. Okay. Okay. This is the first time I've heard about Cheebu running a search party. I think this is a good tool that we can use. It will help people to know that a search party is investigating this outside the police department. So I'm sure you'll let us know. Another thing I heard from the Queen Creek this week is that they have a new ordinance for employees who misuse the floc system. What do you think about this? And do you want to investigate it? If so, that would be good for us. But what do you think? That would be good for you completely. Do you think that change and this should be punished for anyone who misuses the system? Certainly. Okay, thank you. I know that most of you are talking about the cost of this. I know that you have said it clearly in this. If you need any reason, okay, let me tell you first. You know, right? As we move into the coming years, the cost is naturally increasing. I remember talking about it. Not everyone here was there at that time. But when we talked about this, We asked, can we get out of this system? If anything happens, how much will it cost us? Can we get out of this system whenever we want? This is what we got every time. But you and your officers were able to tell us that the cost was high. Do you think that money is being used in a good way? Do you think that money is being used in a good way? Do you think that money is being used in a good way? Do you think that money is being used in a good way? Do you think that money is being used in a good way? Do you think that money is being used in a good way? But again, this is an investment that requires human determination. So, do I personally think that the money was used well? Yes. Let me say again, what is the cost of a life for the three people we found? If we found your wife, I know that it is worth it. Yes, isn't it $ 3 lakhs? I believe that this is an attempt to establish a value for the origin of this system, and not something that even the cities behind this system can afford. Then I believe that if you ask the legislators of those cities, they will not tell you that no one in this industry is operating this system, or that there is no origin of this system. Therefore, I think that the money was well spent. Now, the decision of the city is how to move forward in the future. You have to decide whether to continue or not. We have to prove that we are responsible for maintaining the safety of our city through our actions and actions. Yes, one of the reasons I remember when we made it happen is that we had time for it. So we had a test period for doing this. Let me ask one more thing. If no one is against it, I don't want to take more time. But Audit, I'm sorry, I have to leave. I asked you about this the other day. I was able to see it working for a short time to provide a real-time information center. I asked you about taking a warrant the other day. I know this is something that makes some people sad. I understand this just like taking a warrant for a cellphone or a GPS tracker. How long will it take to get a warrant? Is it practical to take a warrant for the use of a flow? I don't think a judge will give us a warrant on the spot. Because they will laugh at us and say that we don't need a warrant. This is legal. Why are you calling me? But let me tell you, if you take more than 10 minutes to rent a car, if anything happens to your relatives or if anything happens to Penelope Friesel, it will take us 10 or 15 or 20 minutes to get a car. Take your car from Friesel and drive in any direction. Just see how far you have come within 20 minutes of reaching the city. If we had used that system, we could have found a vehicle within 20 minutes. Now, if we ever need a vehicle, we will automatically change it for you. We will do as you say. We will change our rules according to the laws in our circuit or according to the decisions of the Supreme Court, but I don't think they will like it if a judge is called at 1 o'clock in the morning for the fact that it is a violation of the law. Thank you. May I stop? Yes, my friend. Okay. I noticed that only the agencies in Arizona have access to our data, and I would like to start from there. That's right. That's right. So, my question is this, for example. Does Queen Creek have access to our data? If they had access to us, would an agency in New Mexico be able to access our data through Queen Creek? No. Okay, they may need to check it out with Queen Creek. That's what I think, isn't it, Brian? Yes, they will have to make an appointment with a company in Queen Creek to check out their plates. That way, they can access any ALPR or any license plates they have read in Casa Grande. They will also have to read it in Casa Grande. So, they can, they can, they can do it. That's what I think. I know you talked about the Arab agencies. I'm trying to find the next question about them. Because they are in three different places. So, excuse me for a minute. This has happened before the Apache Junction. An employee conducted a survey through us and it was not a positive survey. You have found it. Yes. How did you find it? If someone else uses it without permission, will it be caught at any time? Will it be caught in our audit or will it have to go through their audit process to find it? We have two audits, Organizational Audit and Network Audit. Organizational Audit is all the plates we run at Casa Grande PD. Network audits are done by external agencies. For example, Queen Creek. If they conduct audits on our network, it will show the agency and the time. It is not the name of the employee, and the case number is not given, but there is a reason for it. So, if someone from Queen Creek claims that they have accessed our information, we will have to trust Queen Creek. We need a case number to check if it was a legal case. We will have to contact them, just like we did with Aachi. Yes. Okay. One of my wishes is that another agency will use our data efficiently. We should not neglect that. I think that is a wish. Then you pointed out that the data monitoring time in FIQ is 30 days. Yes. Is there any problem with that? That's the only reason. No. No. I know there's nothing wrong with that. I'm sorry. The flow is determined that all new employees will have a window of 7 days of data monitoring. Employees on the ground will be given the time on the ground. To put it simply, we talked. I don't think this will last for seven days. But we have also worked with the other six municipalities in Pinellas County, which use the Constitution like us. We have decided to work together to find out what is most suitable for our needs. But first, we need to thoroughly investigate at what time our protests are taking place. It shouldn't be 30 days. We haven't had time for that yet. We haven't done that either. Last week, the police and the media were able to discuss this. In the near future, we will gather all the information we have gathered, and we will make sure that there is enough time between a crime and data access. We will try our best to find a time limit for Pinellas County. That doesn't mean we have to go with them. However, it would be beneficial for everyone to examine how long we have been using it after the crime. If it is within a week, we will reduce it to a week. If it is within 14 days, it will be reduced to 14 days. 30 days is a given number. We accepted it. That doesn't mean it's all fixed. As I said, our rules are always the same for changes. Without talking about how this technology can be more safe, we will not be able to spend a single day in our office. Okay. Finally, I know that more technologies and activities are being implemented in the Flock system. What is the policy of the Casa Grande Police Department to improve these activities? Will they be investigated before they are added? Will this be discussed in the council? What would be the policy if any non-comfortable flow comes through the system updates? I know that we will never go to facial recognition, and I think that Flock is not ready for that either. When it comes to music, I don't know much about it, so I can't say for sure. I can't imagine what kind of changes are going to happen in the music, so I'm trying to give it up. But to find out if it works with what we need, we won't accept any of Mr. Raines' and Tamil's obvious discussions. Okay, I think I can implement something about this policy. When I reviewed the city's policy, I didn't see anything about the administrative policy. So if I can implement it, it will be worth it. Upgrades, yes. Okay, good. Bob. To be honest, my office is a law enforcement department, so it's not surprising that I like these things. This helps the police to catch the culprits. As far as I'm concerned, it's a great thing. I've heard people's opinions, online comments, and opinions on domestic news. I respect that. When I see things like this, I think each of us has the responsibility to raise questions and call out what's going on. I have never seen anything like this in the fourth century. An experiment I got as an employee is that you can take a picture from the street. It is an inspection in a public place. There are no high expectations about people's well-being. I believe it. I think it's a good thing. But I think it is our job as a council to look after these programs, to know about them, and to pay attention to the news. We have to try to decide where to put the machines if necessary. I am happy that they have done a good job in finding and implementing the details as these things develop. They have laws to avoid this, and if there is any further action, they will be able to take appropriate action. I liked that. I am satisfied with today's situation, but I will change it tomorrow. We may have to include other details and make some demands to the police department, but I think they are doing things correctly now. I would like to add that I am not new in the field of law enforcement. The Arizona Criminal Justice Information System has been in place for a very long time. It is a big mistake to expose or change the details without proper authority. I feel that we are going to the national level or the national level. However, the misuse of these details can be considered as a crime. I certainly support what Cheep said. I agree that if anything happens to the employer, he will try his best to put an end to the lawful life of the employer and to put an end to their lawful life. I think you can see that this is one of the main things in this article. I can see someone nodding their head. I don't know what you heard, but that's what we want. If this is to be done legally or legally, I will fully support it. I don't think that if I make my own decisions here, things will move forward. When I see the national news, I feel that this should be decided outside the Casa Grande. I think this will be a disaster in the Supreme Court's decision. It could be in Arizona or in the country. Again, it is our duty to know about this. We do not want to take a decision and end it there. We want to pay attention to this. But I think that in this case, this action will be an unexpected and quick decision. I believe this is a service. This is necessary for Casa Grande. Thank you, Bob. Thank you. Thank you, John. Yes, I would like to repeat what Bob said. I thank him a hundred percent. I thank you for making this presentation. This was a very well-made presentation. You did a great job in highlighting everything. I am indebted to you for making this. I know that this has been a lot of work. So, thank you. Yes, thank you. I fully appreciate the things you said about a safe city. I believe this started when people started talking to us at our town hall meeting. I believe that the most important thing for our mayor is health and safety. As a council, it is our responsibility to pay close attention to emergency matters and to find out what is the most important thing to make our city safe. I work as a councillor host. This is very good for our city. This is helping us in various areas. I would also like to point out that there are other agencies that use these cameras. This isn't just a flop, isn't it? It's right. Am I right? So, there are other agencies out there. They can make some mistakes. But this is the best we can do based on our observations and what we have done. Therefore, I believe that we are doing what we think is the best for our city in this regard. Along with that, to help our employees. Therefore, I am very grateful for your invitation. Very, very good. I had conducted a meeting through the command station. I was able to see that process in person. You have to try to learn things and be aware of yourself. Do not believe only in what they say on social media, whether it is Facebook or anything else. Try to learn and understand by yourself. It will help us to move in the right direction and we will try our best to move in the right direction.

1:08:08 – 1:08:54Speaker 1

Then, I would like to say that I appreciate the time and effort that you have spent for this. I know that we have a big gap in the questions that have come up. You will give them back and find the time for it. I agree with what Council member Huddleston said. We have said that public safety is one of the most important things in a society. That is important to us. I also think that the safety of our employees is also very important. I think this is a helpful one. Do we know what is happening? Do we have to pay attention to it and make changes as needed? Yes, certainly. However, I think you have made a lot of efforts and efforts for this. I appreciate that.

1:08:58 – 1:11:17Speaker 2

Thank you. No, thank you. I know that we are running out of time. So, I would like to thank everyone who has come here today. We have spoken to many of you in the council meetings. Whether it is through email or through a few shops, you are loved by us. We are the ones who live in this society. We are here to listen to you. We don't all have the same wishes. We don't have to agree on everything. But I think you will understand that we are here today to speak openly to everyone and to make things better. What is the meaning of these institutional differences and their different applications? There have been a lot of misconceptions about the basic things they do. Because when they talked to other people through social media, they didn't know exactly what each of them was doing. So we wanted to make things clear. We wanted to investigate the rules clearly. We can talk about this for hours. We always have discussions about this. We are answering your emails, comments and requests. That is why we are answering these questions here today. We are listening to your questions and concerns, and we are trying to get to the bottom of the details. This is just a short session to understand what the situation is in the state. We all know that some cities have moved back from the FLOC constitution, but we have decided to continue in the state. Our police department is continuing in this. I know that all the cities in Pinellas County will continue the FLOC constitution and we will be able to work together, but you haven't spoken much. You talked a little about it, but we can talk about how these laws work together and share various details about it. When I was talking about sharing details with 60 cities, I had a question. There are cities that withdraw from the FLOC constitution, and some of them are talking about the right of fourth generation. That is, they deny these rights and they are avoiding it. So, are we sharing details with any city or county that says that this constitution is not in use? That is, we became them.

1:11:17Speaker 4

Not at all. Otherwise, no.

1:11:18 – 1:13:09Speaker 2

Okay, okay. That's what I asked to make it clear. Anyway, this is the shortcoming of this. I know there are a lot of questions. We understand that this is just the beginning. We have a good portal, Transparency Portal. Please go to the Engage or Safe CET Samrambam website. We have a Transparency Portal, through which you can see various cases that we have experienced and successfully conducted. There are questions there. I think there are 11 questions about the issues and questions that have come up. Please be sure to check it out. If you want to regularly continue in the CET Council, we are not accepting any comments now, but if you continue in the Council for Public Comments, you can talk about this student session. But we can't send you a reply now. So if you need a reply, please go to our EngageCG and ask your question. We will definitely reply to any questions and requests you have. But like many of you are doing this, we will send you an email. I know that many of you here today have spoken to us. So thank you to our police department and staff for this update. Also, thank you all for participating in this live. We will continue to talk to you. We will work with you. We will discuss some of the things we discussed tonight about updating the storage or reducing the ordinances. Therefore, I believe that we can ensure greater security and dignity. Therefore, I believe that those discussions should continue. Therefore, along with this, we will take 5 minutes interval and start our regular council yoga. Therefore, if anyone of you wants to continue, you can definitely do so. Therefore, for 5 minutes, we can break this yoga for a while.

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