Local Planning Agency - Regular Meeting

e blocks for love I told him you some more candy bowl is you get here on time get here when you can [Music] no it kicked on already they kicked back off the red the red light came oh there is not on so you're in town now not no we're still we're still home school we're just in couldn't miss such so here you all right good evening we're going to call to order the Tuesday January 14th community redevelopment agency meeting this time let's stand for the pledge EXC pledge aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation

under God indivisible with liberty and justice sorry I I didn't all right this time we are looking for a motion to approve the agenda I make a motion to agenda second all right we have a motion by Mr Barry and second by Mr Alo Mr Barry comments no sir thank you thank you V yes yes won it but by if we have any Nays do we have any Nays no all right at this point the uh agenda is approved unanimously all right item four approval the Amendments 4.1 one community redevelopment agency regular meeting minutes from Tuesday October 8 2024 move to approve the minutes motion by Mr on the second by Mr Barry Mr any comments no sir thank you Mr Barry no comment let's go to vote all in favor say I I I any Nays any passes unanimously public comments item five Miss Tanner really is this the that we did this at the end head on up to the podium let's talk about anything off the agenda state your name and address for us so we can get it on the record Candace Tanner 187 Brook Street downtown

uh I do have a couple of things that I wanted to bring up uh and this is not to catch anybody unaware I didn't intend that I didn't have time to get an email out but I want to ask about the status of Steamboat Landing um downtown and as you know it's there may be things going on that I don't know about I did check their website it said permanently closed and um then also we looked at some of the police records you know are they they are patrolling there all the time is that a resource a taxpayer resource that we're paying for or is is that something that um that the owners themselves I just don't know and um the reason I bring it up is because we looked at this about a year ago I think uh and since then of course some of the people downtown comeing to me to ask questions about what to do and um I think it's almost a feeling like um it there's something going on back there it's off the beaten path but it's very unhealthy um I haven't been going back there taking pictures because it says no trespassing everywhere but there does continue to be complaints about it and uh just wanted to ask about that if we could get a status update and probably yeah well we um the property owners they're right next to it asked to Mr Norman and brought up and Chris and their staff the code enforcement guys went down there and took a look at it and Chris may be able give that's why I was hoping we could get something that Mr oh uh yes um and I I can turn on check with my team for the very latest on it um I spoken you know the last few days or anything but what we've been working on it's been in code enforcement for a long time now Tanner said um the ownership is a condominium ownership so it's made up of hundreds of owners and they've actually been going through a foreclosure proceeding and noticing all the owners to actually go through and try and sell the property so um we've

been working with them to enforce Police Department as well um to secure it to clean up there been trash there's been vagrance in there and graffiti and and different things um so we've got it cleaned up I know we've heard like the Normans had asked to I know a few months back um and um I I to check with my team and see if there's any recent complaints on it but I know we've uh spoken to the management team the representative for the owners and anytime that we do have something we do um they do respond and get it cleaned up but they've just told us that they're working through the legal process to get the property sold um because it's our understanding there's hundreds and hundreds of owners um that they're just trying to get um everything taken care of that's been going on probably since last year at this point Mr CH and I know that can be a long lengthy process but were you are you aware of this one this specific property Miss Kim I can find out whatever you need to know okay well I'm just going to say if there's any way that we can do sure I've seen it it's an isore I think we from even from the boat it's graffiti it's an isore so if there's anything we have cr funds sitting here if there's anything that we can help CRA fundwise to speed this process up instead of just waiting because we know foreclosure can take years so I don't know what we can do that's your expertise or yours Mr me but we have C funds available can we write a check to speed the process up somehow some way sure it sure it needs to be taken care of but foreclosure also doesn't have to take years right notification though does right no CU I feel like that was attorne I feel like that's similar to what happened in the Damon's piece of property it was owned by a bunch of people and the reason it took so long was is trying to get notification all out to the owners so they could have a vote to vote to sell it it and it will depend on what shows up in the title work but for some properties it can be pretty quick so it really depends and I'm just saying it doesn't always take years it could be done in a lot less time sometimes so can we run things parallel what I'm hearing to say it

sounds like there's a consensus to maybe see what we can do to to continue that for a closure process but do you have any recommendations on what we can do to run parallel with that like what I think I heard a contractor or putting in reality the property the structures need to be demolished there it needs to be demoed you know we have a little bit you know we do have our needs some B grant funding that can go toward demolitions it's it's capped at a certain value so I don't know if it would cover the whole project or not um but we do have our nuisance abatement um you know process we've actually talked to um we a few just individuals that have come in asking about the status of the property that would interested in buying it once it goes through that foreclosure process so I think there's some interest out there from people watching it um you know on our side just been you know if there's if there's a nuisance issue or something that comes up we don't through code enforcement they do get that part taken care of and then they just keep telling us it's their we've been working with their their attorney um is the one that's been notifying us so the status of it you know this whole time as well but we can definitely see if the grant if it's something that we could do now you know you know problem with any of those is if we're placing leans on it we don't want to further slow down their process either so um it's kind of exporing you know simultaneous we could we can figure out if there's multiple Avenues to hit it once that's what I'm hearing if you look on their website there's people to contact yeah in contact with them so so what I'm here to say is before we go on to the next um agenda item you have what you the from a call standpoint or any threshold if it was above your director's approval or city management approval you have everything you need tonight to to run simultaneously with the city attorney's office those other other businesses as far as foreclosure you have everything you need yes okay than you all right thank you Mr Tanner anybody else on the board about on that on that subject of conversation before we go go one okay I closing out

public comments item six presentation 6.1 2025 CRA quarterly update report Mr Fetti thank you all and thank you for taking time this afternoon uh for this meeting uh I'll open it and then I'll turn it over to Miss Lisa uh to continue but uh first I did just want to give just a real quick update on the downtown design guidelines um that pro project uh we've been working with kimley horn our consultant and we're making good progress uh we've had uh a whole bunch of stakeholder meetings and interviews over the last couple months um they are uh been compiling the data and are currently working on drafting the the actual document um and so kind of just next steps I want to let you all know all all this opportunity was that uh at the end of this month U we've got one more meeting with some downtown stakeholders um to go over uh you know trying to get some feedback and and questions so they can draft the document and then once we have a draft um we'd like to schedule a meeting with the council for a workshop um to get all of your input um see what your thoughts are good or bad you know whatever um and then we they'll take that back and then continue changing and and draft developing it and working you know final towards a hopefully closer to final product that would then be returned you know a month or two after so um you this at this point time frame timeline wise uh by the end of January we'll have concluded the stakeholder input uh and then we'll finish making any updates needed based on that input to the draft we'll have draft completed uh you know within about a month from that time so by end of February and then we'll get scheduling a workshop with Council um and then go from there based on your input so um we've had a lot of good input we've had a community survey out there we've had um uh multiple stakeholder meetings with um anywhere from you know a dozen to multiple you know 50 60 people attend um and there's a lot of work going on and so we're excited that's moving forward so just

want to give you that quick update on that um if you have any questions but if not I'll then turn it over to Alisa to give you project updates that we've been working on any questions thanks Mr thank you good evening nice see you here get to minut okay get to the first SL please okay um today this is our first quarterly report for 2025 and I want to say welcome and I'm excited about the new year what's coming and what we have done and what will be continuing to do so I want to begin with v Park I know yall have probably driven by there and some the beautiful work that has been done on vag Griff Park the great favors have been completed we're working with the lighting company to we the plan we did have wasn't going to work so uh Tiffany came up with a grave one we're going to light the trees in vegar park and they're going to be lit year round so that will keep it nice and beautiful and lit and then we're working on what we want to do an arch Bay entrance that's it's like an invitation to that area and I'm going to send out a um called the artist we want to do kind of like what we did with the um yes the storm draining art and the award we want to put it out there and let people submit with their ideas and then the winter we get $500 just to we'll pick their design and then we'll go from there to get u a manufacturing somebody ta actually manufacture the the archway so I want to have the call to artists completed by the end of February so we can put out the ITV for these uh construction of the archway yeah I want just addon on on the the wall to the left the reddish brick wall uh we a

little interactive mural paint up there as well Christina did that Library mural wall too so that'll be nice S I knew we had talked about it I wasn't sure it was okay she the reason I she just text me like 30 minutes before oh that's great love hearing that because we have talked about doing that I'm glad to see that that project's moving forward okay so the next L uh this is a a combination project a sound Park and Golf View Park so y'all know what we've already done with sound Park we've already done a lot of improvements we did the set analysis and there's been a lot of improvements done it looks great but there's more that needs to be done in regards to the deed of sound Park one of the things is that that the Flora there it needs to be a attraction for the natural flora and before we used to have little signs that said each bed had a sign saying what it was it's set up in the deed it's supposed to be an educational Park and a reserve for the the Flora that's there and natural floor so it's very specific of what can be there the one of the problems we have is the irrigation system is in operable it's not working it's con it's a high maintenance irrigation system so uh the that and with the Golf View Park we want to do an ITB for a landscape design for both of those areas and do one project or do one ITB for both of those projects because the GOL View Park which y'all know where that is that corner yall know where the Golf View Park is what I'm referring to okay that corner right there we're wanting to um Public Works is going to be breaking up the concrete we've got an approval Jeff got approval from the owners to fix up that corner and make it look nice but it's going to need irrigation and it's going to need a nice landscaping design so I wanted to put it all under one contract and give both of those get landscaping irrigation system and get both of those set up and make them look beautiful there's the

sound park that's kind of the last project we've got with sound Park we get that Landscaping the pathways done I want to redo the pathways and get them all pretty when we get this done sound Park will be done and Vander Griff park or gol VI park that's going to be beginning and we're going to working on getting several of that done too so that's that's what this project is going to be we um the ITB is going to be out in February we're wanting to open the bids in April and hopefully the work will begin in June MH so does this ITB include any type of camera system or are we getting away from that or no no this is just for the Landscaping project didn't know if there was any scope to include that that camera piece not the camera's already at sound par are they okay the camera's already up at sound Park I don't see a need for us to put uh the expense of a camera on at GW Park cuz GW itself has so many so I really don't see any for there but this the C Sound Park is up yeah that's good to know that was new information thank you okay Smith so as it relates to that golf VI Park um I'm glad we got permission from the own to get that piece and and get it cleaned up would it be out of the realm of possibility to get us maybe a nice lighted sign to put on that piece of property that's like you know welcome to downtown Fort Walton Beach I mean a lot of places I go um they're downtowns as you're entering downtown they got kind of like a a prime piece of real estate like this that have a nice sign on it that's lit up at night um not during the day and when you come in it's hey welcome to you know so and so would that be you think that would be something that maybe Vince would would would be okay yeah the original one was we were going to landscape to make it look nice and the church was moving away there um just really trying to clean it up but I can definitely ask him and and I do want to address that and and actually that was one thing I had looked at because and and I don't know if you know in Crestview they've got the three-way

Tower sign that's at the main intersection in Crest downtown Crestview and I was kind of wanting something there but I think with round the mound we're kind of didn't want to put too much money on that because we're not exactly sure how round the mound is going to go um but that is something we have considered yes there's another thing that Tiffany and I had talked about doing is have a revolving art statue project in that middle and each quarter have a different artistic statue design that would be revolving there's a pro there's a group that can do that so there's several objects and yes I did want to do one of those and I think that's a great idea especially the three-way Tower sign yeah I I think if we do a sign whether you know around the mountain gets there or not you can always move the sign so that would be a pretty easy thing to do but I I just think it would be a nice thing I've got a ton of compliments this holiday season with the trees being lit up you know um um in the evening and stuff like that and I just think you know kind of a a nice way sign into downtown and and trying to get that feel that that I get when I go into a lot of other towns outside of here you know that that's a big welcome entrance you see the trees perfectly lighted and it's really cool looking so I know one of the just move kind of moving forward even we just finish the Christmas season but having a Christmas tree there on the corner in room too in for 2025 Christmas too also there's several options all we're open for any ideas I think it's great we we're we're just going to get it ready and and get set up there will be a center section that's going to be concrete so we can put what we want on okay yes and it sounds like if the land owner is okay with it we can include that in the ITB to to add signage well that that would be a different ITB okay that would be a different this is just Landscaping so once we get the Landscaping done and get it set up we'll have the space open so we can put something there but the Landscaping is one thing and the tower would be another that would be another um request but

that might be an RFQ I'm not exactly sure how that I'm glad you said that about the AR cuz kind of what my thought process was with the entryway sign was is getting with a cultural arts league and letting them design the sign for that you know hey this is downtown for walon Beach let them design whatever and then we can light it up that way we get more Community involvement in involved in what we got going on yeah and I I appreciate that and I think that's a great idea I I love that you're on the kind of going the same path I was going down so I appreciate that this I I couldn't agree more I think that's a great idea regarding the sign I I don't see any reason to wait on it either um I understand it can't be in the same ITB as you know a landscaping guy is going to come in there and put some plants in and some Sprinklers and he's not necessarily going to be able to make a sign but I I think getting the ball rolling on this situation right away would be a really good idea um I like the idea of getting the community involved in designing it as well but I think a big old giant sign right there that's up at night would be really really nice and make a massive change his yeah one of the and I was just kind of reviewing what I sent him and I just said we'd fix it up maybe some signage and stuff and he and his he said yes I'd be all for that I really I don't really want more political signs on that property oh I was going to give him a call since I got a run but I just not now huh he did say that may that looks good artistic welcome to for Walton Beach vot Travis smooth right yeah I I just s funds can't pay for that just but and I don't know if y'all the and you've seen the three-way Tower sign that's in Crest View I I did that I designed it and it's I mean I I've already got the stuff for it I mean that's a beautiful sign and it's a three-way sign with with a digital that's that you can advertise stuff on that's something we can look at we can look at other things and yes I can go ahead and move forward with that uh and go ahead and start getting that process

work too that'd be awesome if y'all agree to it I'm forward yeah we'll just I'll I'll I'll get V get some Mr if we're looking for consensus I agree I don't know that it needs to be you know advertisement or anything but but sign that television if it's three sided that's fine just reminding people that they're entering the downtown of footw and Beach is what I would support I would support doing it sooner than later to get the ball rolling even though the Garden or park is not finished i' still support getting some lights and a sign right there I and I would authorize my consensus would be authorizing the city manager to use his spinning authority to do it 50 Grand get us a good time Mr Jeter yeah if you're looking for consensus 100% agree what everybody said I would add to the Landscaping I just look at it and go let's make sure maybe plant a seed with them about longevity for maintenance issues and this and that I just say that because even the county the city whoever we we do this a company that does this Grand landscape design they sell us this picture and it looks awesome but just think about maintenance here and I'm sure you do and the landscapers know way more than I do about landscape I get it but just plant the seed of we want something easy to maintain five or 10 years from now we don't need it to look like holy heck and and I agree with you one of the things that when I did the um scope of work I actually included ongo maintenance on that is as part of this project through the CRA projects so can be done uh on this as an ongoing maintenance uh so the city doesn't have to pick up that maintenance issue that can be part of the contract I know something that's got to be natural so you'll find that balance but I know when you do pavers and synthetic grass then your from now still looks like papers and synthetic grass when you do pinew it looks like heck a year from now yeah well and we do want it low maintenance and easy to care for that that you are correct and the main thing is is we got to get the irrigation system in there or

it's just no matter what we do it's just not going to work so that's the main thing is getting a good irrigation system like what we have to do is sound Park going look like the median down here if we don't have an irrigation system I'm I'm all for that whatever you good stuff any other questions yeah because I agree because I helped plant those yes you did yeah and and I watched them with her yeah so so thank you yeah well and like said they they went out there and fixed the the that's the problem with the irrigation system at sound par they went and fixed it but it's just old it needs to be completely redone so let's just go and get redone plant again I just want to do it right if we're going to put money in it I want to be able to maintain it and do it right makes sense good stuff you don't need irrigation for pavers and synthetic grass though we'll talk later you let me know what you want it's good okay any more questions on this looks like we're good at the time we're good at this time keep going okay all right so the next one is Chester for Park which uh y'all know we I did a seped report on that and I turned it down to the parks and W department and we've the the subed report ISS this is what I suggest needs to be improved and so it's all of it's going to be expensive so we've got to hard to it out but we have in the SI funds money that we've already established for some of these repairs the lighting upgrades what we want to do is to the same lights is what we do at sound park because we want to be consistent in our Parks we want them all to kind of look the same um Landscaping uh parts's already done some Landscaping improvements and they're going to keep it up they've got a guideline now on what needs about what should be done the restroom we we had a bump in the road this weekend I'm sure yall are quite aware so and and Jeff and Tiffany I talked and we Tiffany I and Jeff and are going to meet tomorrow we're going to kind of do a plan B on those restrooms and and try to do a a good seted design of the restrooms to will deter the criminal activity and the negative activity so we're meeting tomorrow to

take care of that we are going to have to do a plan B because the original bathrooms we were going to put in there the price increased dramatically well the the thing the the the the bathroom itself the block is in really good shape just a complete overhaul like we did at fery Park complete paint job rip everything out all new fixtures flooring paint lighting everything in the bathroom it'll look like a branding bathroom so that that's kind of what we're going to look at uh and get complete re redo of that camera on a pole outside maybe too I I do believe we need to do that I will say that definitely and that's something that we could put a locking system on the doors similar to we we would do all new doors with the lock with automatic Locking System yeah it did we do that with the other yeah excuse me I'm sorry go ahead may I speak yeah did we do the automatic locks uh at the um The Landing in Eliza Jackson well we have the landing is the bathrooms the new bathrooms aren't there yet but all from here on out we are and uh Jed Holmes Park Liza Jackson will have locking yeah they were upset when you locked them lock the pickle ball players were upset when you that was on that freeze day we were trying to prevent everything freezing up B there's there's a happy meean a solution and we'll come up with with something that'll work for the area I just hate that you know it's like we said we we do stuff and then just a few bad apples really mess it up so I really hate that but we'll come up with a solution um the stage has has I have in here that it was pending a third quote Tiffany's already gotten that quote and fortunately we're going to be able to do the stage for less than what we allocated funds for so I set aside $10,000 for the stage and it's coming in uh good less than that so that's that's good on that aspect she's gotten that third quote and we'll start working on moving forward to getting the

stage built and I hope to have some events and some things going on to bring some activity once everything's done at Chester G par then we're going to do a good pressure washing clean no need to do it d now while we're working on it but we do want to do a good cleaning of the park uh when it's done and I'm excited about looking at that Park it's going to be beautiful when we're done with it any questions go ahead okay all right next slide um this project I'm I'm really excited about because well for several reasons I like all the projects but when I first got here I asked um Sergeant Pettis I said take me to an area in the C that is your most Prof and he took me directly to this road and and he was like this this is the problem we have with this road so in time we have been working on it well recently and and this is what I wanted you to see this is a perfect example of all of your departments and your staff that have worked together to solve a problem is it 100% solved no but it is a big step in what we've been working for and and it start out with and I do want to let you know on the C side our community policing officers officers Carter and Bs Watson uh they have gotten their basic sepad training done they will be going in March to get their Advanced when they're done in March they will be sep practitioners also so they can do the stuff that I'm doing and we can spread the the jobs out and get more done in a more time a bigger time frame so we're excited about that now on the multihousing side uh and I actually jumped I was talking about something before I was ready I'm sorry um I'm excited about cars and drivve so I'm actually talking about the set toad page on the multif family housing this apartment complex was actually right outside of the SI district

downtown and we I did the analysis on it and it was a great example of even though it's not the SI District it helps the Siri District to have these improvements made because it's right there and it's in our downtown area the um the analysis report was done I did the employee training for the company and they're even actually looking at doing other apartments within the city so there's a whole lot they wanted to use this as their pilot program so that's uh what we're doing on this one they intend to start doing the upgrades this year on this property so that is a one of our multif family housings that we've gotten downtown now the Heritage Center I did um I'm working on the side analysis for the Heritage Center I've done the day daytime analysis and I have met with employees and got their input and Gail is just a plethora of information I just I mean she just made my job a lot easier but she did point out there's a lot that needs to be done at Heritage Park at the Heritage Center of course we're going to go hopefully next week and get the lighting analysis done and I hope to have that done by the end of January and then the final report should be able to be submitted in March the improvements to Heritage Center I can tell you is probably going to be a three-year process there's a lot that's got to be done to make it safe and to make it better we've got the front the entrance is beautiful looks great so we're want to do the rest of it make it really good and safe it's probably going to be a threeyear project we'll SP spread out the expenses and the duties and I will in my report I will actually say phase one two three and we that way we can allocate funds on a basis but we'll prioritize what needs to be done and then we'll spread that out but that uh should be done by the end of March I should have that at the next meeting before the next meeting any questions on

these sorry I confused about Carson drive but I'm really excited to get on that one any questions good now we're going to go what I want to talked about car and drive uh I did tell you I met with uh Sergeant Pettis and the area needed a lot of work um we with this area we did one of our stakeholder meetings and I think some of you may have been there one of them actually was about Carson dve because we wanted to hear what the citizens thought about that area and get their input too because the police have a Vio I have a Viewpoint the citizens have a Vio and they actually gave some wonderful input on things we can do that will help and um so the the police officers were there we flaged some definite negative activity in the area for that so how this is has worked is like I said all these officers or your staff have worked together the police department our code enforcement you can see I don't need to go over all this code enforcement they've got picked up and got code enforcement out there and done more on making sure everybody's in compliance parking Recreation they cleaned up at the end of the clde saac cuz that was a dump heat ever since they cleaned it up got the stuff out put a trash can there they cut down a bush and a dead tree stump that's there and make look nicer we haven't had that much problems there's still got to be some litter but not like what it was so there was some major Improvement on that uh Public Works uh they coordinated with Florida Power and Light got the lighting upgrade there put in a four-way stop sign and a speed bump four-way stop sign was because the citizens said if you put a four-way stop sign there people won't be flying through like they have and actually there has been some improvements I there's a nursing home that's right down the road there and I met with some of them and they were telling me this amazing it has the traffic has slowed down some now that they know that for stop signs there the speed bump the citizens I was going to put in a different spot and they said no you put it right here that's where we put it and it's been great and it's

really been working major Improvement and y'all can see on the next did y'all see the graph on the next page so if you'll pull that up this is what I'm very excited about I was um looking at this and I said well we need a year comparison not just a 5 month and if you'll see the sept had work was started in July and you can see the trend it's not 100% clear but it is a great Improvement to what we've had in the past because July 23 there was two incidences this time it was zero and if you look at November and December how many incidences there were and look at November and December this year so I'm not saying it's 100% because of seped but I will say I believe it had a major effect on that the uh Property Owners of one of the questionable properties has uh cleaned it up and got some things out you know we've had a nuisance abatement there that cleaned off another piece of property and then another investors come in and fixed up some property and in time we're hoping this road will actually be a very good viable Road it's going to take time it's going to take you know we can't do everything overnight but this is a sign of an improvement in that area we're hoping it will continue Mr the questionable house that we're speaking about has that been cleaned up and it has been cleaned up um the the property i' I've talked with the property owners and they were asking me what the city could do and they were worried about us you know um repossessing the property and I and I told them I said well and I did advice them I said because they want me to give them advice I said the best advice I can give you is get an attorney and then they can tell you what you can do to clean up that property to get the people out that you don't want in there um it's going back and forth but they have cleaned it up it does look a lot better um we are going to keep on top of it and

make sure that it stays that way so we're we're not just doing a one time let's look at Carson Road and clean it up it's our eyeballs are on that street and it's going to stay Mr B and and the house across the street that the the person that had that house that was complaining that's it was actually a couple of streets down a couple of houses down and I haven't I haven't heard anything lately I I do hope there's going to be some improvement I know there's been some issues like I said in in time it will be good it's better than it was so some of these things just take time to actually come into effect and and I'm hoping there'll be more people that say okay this this got done let's buy this house and let's sell it and let's fix up that street that Street's on the way to be an actually very good asset to the community that's my goal that they can say Carson Drive was thank you thank it is I think one of the parcels that's close to that house of concern is one of the parcels where there's an applicant I guess I believe wanted to use some of that Workforce housing money how far are they along in the process and back to improving blindedness and light I think you know having a new product will help can piggyback off this whole conversation but where are they in that development process um that's kind of out of M Chris have that's out of my world he got the new Sy and got it clear yeah um actually that applicant will be he supposed to be here this evening at the city council meeting during public comment to give a quick update on his project um I uh he'll speak as far as timeline um but he has been in contact with us saying he got plans uh site plans drawn up for it and uh they're still moving forward so I hope uh you in a couple hours here they'll be able to give you a full update on it okay so we might hear from them tonight at that next meeting but at this point there hasn't really been a a lot of staff and applicant he not formally for the building permits or or anything at our you know at this stage

um but yeah stayed in contact and you know following that recent discussion on that topic um we did reach out to him and he did uh want you wish to speak and give you all update the council update later I will remind you that a meeting a two ago the council approved a new uh town home type plat on Third Street right at the intersection of Carson so awes there's a number of good things happening over there for sure we're excited about the good things happening keep up um I will say that um on wind and right there at third W the guy that brought that was as a a veter actually is a soldier and he brought that uh there's a apartment small apartment complex there and I've been working with him we're going to do Nuance abatement on it he's going to get sead done on it and he's going to redo that apartment complex which is right there off and it's going to be a great thing too so more and more people start showing interest and fixing things up is just it's been a really help area great stuff great stuff thank you thank you any more questions on this okay so the final thing we want to talk about is we had talked about and it's in the budget to do the Redevelopment Plan update I wanted y'all to get cuz this plan is going to have to be completely Rewritten we do not have a Word document to just change things we're going to have to redo everything and I wanted y'all to get a complete picture of what this is going is going to be entailed on this and that's why I wanted to put it through you and you you've got on that so um and you can see that it was initially the F was initially established in 1977 and about every 7 to n years we've had to update the Plan F suggests every 5 years you update your plan so we're really kind of laate on it but as long as we're doing it's not mandatory every 5 years but they do that's a suggestion so we do need to do a complete update on it and I want y'all to get a complete picture of what's been involved on that so phase one is going

to be the information gathering that's going to take about 3 months there's a whole lot of information that's got to be updated and retrieve working with um the um yeah the city and getting some information over there in the gis system and getting some facts and data we're going to need to update that and there's just so much that's got to be involved that's going to involve the um Community interviews and and meeting with y'all and gathering information so I'm guessing that'll take about 3 months once we get started and then phase two is going to be actually wiing the plan that's I'm giving it about four to 6 months that's going to take the longest is to put all that together the whole thing's got to be Rewritten and I know if y'all seen it's a thick plan there's a whole lot that's got to be done and it's not going to be exactly we've got this we just got to rewrite it there's a lot that's got to be done removed updated and revised so I'm suggesting it's going to take about four to 6 months and then phase three is going to be presenting to the taxing entities we do have to submit it to the county because we do get County funds on this so we will just submit it to their ref management director and they will get it approved through the county because they have to approve the plan also just along with y'all so I'm anticipating uh that phase three will be that and that shouldn't take about a month because we just have to get the entities involved to vote on it so I wanted y'all to get a full picture of what's going to be involved and why you're asking to get a contract to do that this is this is a major project and so any questions about what we received Mr what was the at the last meeting I think we had talked about this what kind of price point were we looking at for someone else outside to do this I have I have asked around an average um plan that's why I put in there for $100,000 that's about an average of what it cost to get an outside company to do the plan because of what I was involved uh there are maybe other ways but that that was that's why I put $100,000 in

there is because that was the average and that's what I was advised so you mentioned earlier as well that it's recommended that the plan be updated every 5 years what what's the law what's the there is no law okay there is no law the problem you're going to run across is when your your plan is not updated then the the state wants to know what have you done and that's why like the reports that are coming in so what have you done what has been done what has been completed and where are you going so it they they want us to show every 5 years we have completed this because that's what it has to show is what we've completed what we've done and what we have planned there's a separate I mean you have to file reports every year regardless correct that show what's been done yeah those are those are the little reports these have to be much more detail okay and yeah there's there's there's so much involved sure thank you Mr J is this similar to we were discussing last time we were talking about updating the plan and not spending this this is the same right that we were talking about updating the current plan that so I guess to feedb back off goun gretto I I think it'd be maybe better to push it a little further and I go back to like the the triangle we were just talking about redoing we kind of don't want to spend a lot of money there because we don't really know where around the mountain is going to go so I feel like we're inching closer towards around the mound maybe punt maybe wait another year or two before if we don't have to do it this year shouldn't we wait to see what other big dominoes are falling in line before we do this big update cuz I tell you my first Insight of gathering information as a citizen my first question for the downtown master plan is going to be where's the road going if we don't have that answer what are we really planning you don't have to get too detailed on this it's just like say we're this is a project around the mound and this is the plan yeah but I'm saying for $100,000 it better be de that's you're absolutely right and you you know

you know what uh you Al said here um is that you know it's there's not a drop end date that you must update this every you know number of years um you know this is you know in my time here it's been about 5 seven years um but we do have a lot going on now we can absolutely um continue working out the current plan um you the biggest thing I think to keep in mind in general um I think we're still all right for most of everything that we're doing is that to be able to do a project or fund anything in the CRA it has to be identified in your plan is is one of the there that's there's a few requirements in statute and one of the requirements is you can't spend money in CRA that's not identified in the plan so as long as it's in the plan and that's where you the plan would try to include everything that we can think of for you know five to maybe 10 year period even um then we're good and I think what we're currently doing now we've identify the around the mountain we've identify all these downtime improvements and Z wide improvements um you we can still continue working on it while picture gets clearer for a lot of this these things we don't have to do this now um you know looking at it um and Lisa I don't think mentioned it but you know we did kind of put together a kind of a full pointed itemized kind of list of everything that we're looking at just to you know help you know educate you guys on the process um you know that's everything that's kind of we we feel is all inclusive at this point for what will be updated but that's something that whether it's you know this year next year or two years hour or longer um is something that we can look at doing um as far as staff side you know we can we can start this process at a staff level um where it comes down to is is um the actual report writing that you know I think we feel that you know we probably need some outside assistance and it could even be hiring you know consultant or somebody to help just compile we have the data they could help write the actual reports you know if that's something in the future we want to do there's a lot of ways we can do this so um yeah we we've got an item as you all know um this evening on the

regular agenda with the design plans for round the mound that will be presented chrisal next meeting so you know maybe a good time to do it in coordination with that Mr is there anything in the current plan the 2019 plan that doesn't jive with what we're trying to do now like is there are there any projects that like oh well we were going to do that in the C but sadly it's not part of the plan I know you said you wrote it to be as generalized and as vague as possible just so that we could tackle things when they come up but like is there anything that we're not able to do right now because of that you know so there one that comes to mind and really you know anything in there doesn't mean we have to do it's just something that we could do and the only thing I can think of at a time um you know going back to 178 when we're developing that plan I think we talked about maybe looking at a Municipal Marina um you know probably something that we moved away from you looking at that but I think that's one of those maybe you know plan projects again cuz we're trying to throw everything in there just to keep it as as an option um I think that's something that isn't needed but I really think everything else in there uh our projects and activities that we are I've completed but I mean like right now 2025 there's nothing that's like we could accomplish this but because our plan doesn't include it no the you know um when it comes to the community policing um is it's very very small what's in there we we read with cityor burs and all too feel that we we we can still move over with that but that was one thing that LE I talked about you know if we were going to update the plan we would um proba to add just more language up Comm policing um however we okay thank you Mr Smith so you say we don't have anything right now but there's a 2019 plan there's not a template that we can use from the 2019 plan we have a PDF we have PDF documents of it unfortunately we don't have documents we can now we

can work on converting and extracting out um to make it into a more workable document so I guess my I'm I'm just trying to figure out what will we actually be paying $100 ,000 for a lot of it's the research and the leg work that has to be done to get the plan done and then write it there's a whole lot of research meetings and and stuff that's got to be done to get it ready the writing does take a while and it is a lot of work and we've got to update all the maps we've got to update all the statistics because some of the statistics in there are older and I will say that uh one of the reasons Chris and I talked about we're actually moving forward with this is because community policing is very briefly mentioned in here and sepad I think is only mentioned once and if it wasn't in there I couldn't do anything with sepad and since we're moving forward with community policing and trying to expand that program I really do feel we need to get more detailed on that there's just some stuff that I I feel needs to be add I mean I'm kind of like Mr Al if we left this thing bague to give ourselves options and now we're sitting here running into some specific targeted issues instead of redoing the whole plan why don't we just add the specific things that we're targeting to the plan and we can do that internally and we don't have to go spend $100,000 99% whatever now we can most of it obviously same and then just add you know those couple of topics that we've identified um we we could do that we can look at doing some addendums because I will say this it may be $100,000 now but if we want to go redo this thing in three years it's probably going to be $125,000 then it's not going to be any cheaper today than it is going to be in 3 years um you know so but I I guess I'm just trying to figure out what the overall accomplished goal is is if it's just to add some of these things that are just small that are mentioned that we need to expand on then I think that we can do that internally it was always a solid plan you know when it came into you know at that the cost and time it's there's so many tables and reports to data from property tax collector RGS

data so you know when we did these things out that's all that time that you they went obviously build build for um is is really any whether staff do whoever it's just updating all that data that's now you six seven years old but um it's it's all it's all good data and it's nothing that's hurting us today or you know really into the future anything we're doing it's it's not hurting us it could stay there um look at doing anything then do it updating it just you know adding commun policing up to it make sure it's it's strong in there and I didn't see if there's anything else in there really that's definitely doable as update Mr so if we wanted to add a Marina at the Landing which I think would be a good idea um could we do that with an amendment or addendum will we file our annual report that is one that's in there now well I'm just okay let's say we wanted a spacecraft Landing I'm being phous but something that wasn't in the original plan can always be yes we can always just do yeah some minor updates to it additions to it okay you're just going to you are going to want to cause problems if that's all we ever did and that's theate of going wait a second y'all need to be the point and that that's where the the problem came right across is we can't do anything that's not in the plan and and we just got to make sure that it's updated and that we are following the plan that's why I it's just time to do it he has a good point it's not going to get any cheaper it's just going to get more expensive and I'm hoping to be able to get somebody to do it for 100,000 if they're going to redo the whole thing um because we're looking at just the downtown design guidelines that was just one little area that's part of the C and that plans you know that's a lot of work Mr Jer I was just going to say if you're looking for consensus like R you're saying I say we amend the current one save $100,000 I think is what we're all seeing and when around the mount or something else happens maybe it cost 120 but we're going to have to redo it 2 3 four years from now anyway that's when we need the

detailed one I think is that'd be where I would be okay and to piggyback off that I think we've asked it in different ways but I just want to make sure right now in our 2019 current plan staff doesn't see anything down the shoot that could keep us from executing with our current goals with their current uh projects aside so we're not holding y'all back we're not holding staff back we're not holding anybody back by not moving forward with this with this recommended product is that correct yes the only thing I really think we need to expand on as the community policing it's it's too brief and and we could get into some troubles with with all the things cuz that that is too brief so I think we need to do an amendment at least for the community policing and the programs we're doing I think that's what we talk about just we do update to it um that's a quick process I think to get through that yeah good stuff thank you and um I don't have anybody else unless y have any more questions for me I do have to thank you son thank you Miss Alicia I and please feel free to pass this on to who you think U needs to to respond to the information but as our CR administrator how's the like the crab the golf cart it's being used the police are use it I've talked to them they use it in all the festivals we used it in the Christmas parade it's going to be in the mar parade and uh it is getting out there it is being used because I did talk to they're the ones who mainly use it what we want to do is uh possibly in and we'll work on possibly building a a storage shed at the Landing uh to actually store it there then it'll be more accessible for us to use it for things around there the problem is is we're having destroy the police department but we it is being used it is

it is out there and being used and they enjoy it thanks for that corly update any other questions you got you good Jeff all right thank you thank you all right item seven action Direction discussion any discussion or direction or action Mr Jeter we brought up earlier some of the murals what is the is there an update at all on the mural for the library in library Park and so um yeah I talked to her today about that too she's going to uh the original one had um we we kind of left it off because we didn't know if we were going to do library park or not at the time so it was originally saying forall Beach Library Park Library park or something like that it'll say Fort wall Beach it's got the FWB 365 logo with the jet flying up so that will be a finished product um that mural on that wall um the library Park is something that um that we need as a as a staff and Council need to decide some of those things if we want to try to move forward with those things or what we want to do moving forward with some of those smaller projects like that than um and other murals too just to add on to that uh when the museum addition is done there's a big B long blank wall on the back side of that that would be spot for one for sure on the um on the Quad City side of the house how soon do you think we can get an offer letter out for that Quad City officer Chief do you have a up I think did you meet with Terry you call today Jeff I did so there's some restructuring that we're going to look we had very minimal interest in the current quad C position we've had maybe a handful of position people apply at best none with any code or any true experience that we were looking for rof was was kind of unique because he worked

for um what's a place called up there on RAC track that assists with jobs and everything Career Source Career Source so he worked for career source and he did Veterans Outreach so he had a very unique Niche that he kind of filled for us we haven't found anybody else that qualified for it and right now I don't think we're at a place where we can publicly discuss it but we may be able to get somebody that has extensive code enforcement experience that' be willing to come over and assist with the type of position that we want to work the if it doesn't work out with this person that you're referring to you mention not being qualified or some some people not qualified do we need to change standards or policy on qualifications because where I'm going with this my concerns are that 2025 is budget year is going to be next year's previous year's actuals correct and and that service is not being provided so not to disclose whoever we're negotiating with or or maybe negotiating with but just concerned about the service I mean there was no negotiation it was just some restructuring in the city and just making sure that everything lined up properly we should have that within the next week or two if that falls through then our plan would just to be bring somebody in from zero and make them a hero like we did with Rufus I mean just train somebody ourselves get the purpose with the proper attitude and just go from there do we have a kind of a bank of some of those applicants that might not have met that standard we're looking for but if this Personnel that you're referring to doesn't work out let's say by the end of sounds like there's been some conversation you''ll had with with HR but if this person doesn't work out that we're meeting that standard that you're wanting how soon could we maybe lower the standard or lower the the policy to make sure we fill that seat and fill that service I don't think there's any lowering of Standards just the right person for the fit for the

position and I think we could probably have somebody here within 3 weeks for at the most whether it's the person we're working with or it's somebody that may not have all the attributes that we wanted that we would just have a longer startup period with them but I think easily within four weeks probably two to three would be ideal because this is a non-sworn officer correct that's was one of the things we were looking at and that's what the city manager talked with the person that has extensive experience wants a swarm position so we're talking to see how that fits into our current structure and that's what's delayed us a little bit with it but we think it could be a win all around if we can make it work awesome right any other discussion direction or action all right see you none Mr Smith you don't have anything Mr M any comments hope we done our city council meeting we can give you the direction you need to wrap up those Mur rolls you were talking about uh for the various locations sure good stuff I'm good Mr Jer yes sir Mr Barry no no sir all right you good Jeff all right this cop you good all right me a j okay