Board of County Commissioners - Regular Meeting

I'd like to call the meeting to order. We'll do the flag salute, and Tyson will have a few words.

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Heather, are you there?

I am. Can you hear me?

Sure thing, yes.

Okay, well, not to steal Tyson's thunder, but finally, after a lot of work, the neighborhood revitalization program letter from the attorney general's office has been received. Tyson, do you want to give that update?

Yeah, so I received an email from the AG's office Friday saying that they were mailing the formal approval letter on Friday. I didn't get it today. Once I get it, it needs to be recorded with the Register of Deeds and then with the Secretary of State. I'll just walk it over here. Secretary of State looks like I can just email it. So I think that should all happen this week and we'd be ready to go. So both the interlocal and the NRP become effective upon recording. of that date we'll start taking applications.

Sounds good.

Yeah.

Yes. So just as a reminder for people who may have been waiting to apply, they'll need to come into the appraiser's office, get all of the paperwork from the appraiser. The appraiser needs to come out and do what they need to do prior to any construction or changing of the property beginning. So just want to remind people who've been anxiously waiting, just because we received it doesn't mean do whatever you want. It means come talk to the appraiser's office to get the paperwork filled out.

That's right. Thanks, Heather.

um yeah the end is in sight thankfully um wanted to give you an update on the workforce um board and local area one so proud is part of the area one workforce board last week the state sent out a email to all workforce boards in the state there are there were previously five now there's three there's essentially workforce area one, which is everything except for Wichita and Kansas City. And then those two places have their own separate boards. The state undertook an efficiency study. And according to the contractor they had do that study, Kansas is not as efficient as some of the other states around us related to how the workforce system is handled. So commerce is now seeking comment and determining what it might look like to go to one workforce board across the entire state. You're probably like, why do I care? The local workforce board, has historically had at least a few representatives from Pratt on it. Kenny Gates served for a while. I know Heather Heron served for a while. I think somebody from Stanion still may be on there. I think Commissioner Borjo in the past had served on the board. So there have been representatives from Pratt County on the board. The one question that is sort of being discussed across the state is, If we do go to one board, how do we ensure that all areas of the state are equally represented and doesn't just become an urban versus rural issue? So I'm just alerting you, if you haven't seen it, in case somebody brings it up to you, there will be some, I'm sure, teeth gnashing related to what happens next, but you just need to be informed. And again, Workforce One is the group that came in and offered employment services to the folks at the hospital who had been laid off. So they do provide valuable services and access to federal workforce resources for both Pratt County residents, but also our employers. PADC is meeting on Wednesday. They have a pretty full agenda. This week I edited and provided comment on a contract between PADC and Pratt Family Practice for an incentive application and also scored two more incentive applications, one for the new owners of the Evergreen Inn. I'm not sure that the sale is totally closed, but it's very close to closing to have new owners for that property, but also Pratt Country Estates, which is the new owners of the trailer park. The amount of capital investment between those two projects, over $3 million, creation of a number of jobs. So PADC will look at those two incentive applications on Wednesday. I'm not going to be able to be at the meeting. I'm triple booked. But that is happening Wednesday at 3.30. also have been in continued contact with the City of Sawyer. That problem is not resolved. I will keep working on the problem. The contractor they were going to use said that they could not fulfill the timeline needed for the completion of the work by the end of the year related to the audit. So we are on Plan B on that situation. As soon as whatever plan that can actually be executed is determined, I will communicate back with the appropriate parties to make sure that all of the grant activities can be closed out appropriately. One more thing. I can get it up here. Oh, the last thing that I have today is this morning the Department of Commerce has announced a $15,000 grant opportunity called Team Kansas Homecoming Grant. It appears to be a non-match grant in which $15,000 could be used to promote local communities. It would be my suggestion that we go after something like this. I'm going to reach out to the city of Pratt I see no reason not to try to get $15,000 of somebody else's resources to help pay for and promote what all the great things there are in Pratt, housing, living, quality of life amenities. PADC has been working on a pitch book. PADC would certainly, that pitch book, this could be a joint entity between the college, PADC, private business, and the city and the county. it didn't look terribly difficult to apply for um and it will be announced pretty quickly with the change in administration so unless somebody has an objection that would be my suggestion uh that's what i was thinking was using the money with the pitch books and the website and that type of stuff that would be my suggestion as well yeah they promote

That's their job to promote for businesses and stuff, so I think it worked good for them.

Yeah, it would be resources we don't currently have that would help go a long way to do what we've already been planning that needed to be done.

Yeah.

That's all I have. Thank you.

Thanks, Heather. DJ?

You guys got your... Letter from the state on compliance and ratio and all that kind of stuff. Did real well this year.

Hey, Jay, can you just get some background on what they're looking at?

The one she's telling you, the compliance of what all we had to do to meet. every aspect that the state requires us to do and we got it all done we got 100 on it then the other one is a ratio study it tells you what we've done on all our cells so we're at 97.12 percent of all sales we hit so commercial we don't even have enough commercial right now to usually you have to have five to be able to test So statistically, but I knew they though, um, the state just sends you guys usually a letter. They don't show you what the results are and why you passed or anything like that. And I thought, that's why we ought to give you this. So you can see that, you know, what's the COD coefficient of dispersion. Um, it's, um, how close you're really hitting yourselves. Um, residentially you want to be under 20, um, commercial, it goes up to 25. Um, your PRD, it tells you if, um, Oh, if you're, um, high dollar sales are being too low or your low dollar sales are being too high. It depends on which direction they go from one, but we're right on the money on it.

So these, you got valid sales and you got trim sales. I'm assuming the trim sales are a couple of real high ones and a couple of real low ones.

Could be that. It could be.

They just take those out.

Yeah, they take them out. It could be the high to the low. It could be the non-arm leg transactions, possibly even. I mean, I'd have to go back and look at the study and see which ones they took out. Yeah.

Well, I figured there'd be some non-normal ones, and they just pull those out. They pull those out. You can do it that way.

Some years we may have 20. Yeah.

It depends on the year.

So just thought we'd let you know. Yeah. Anything else?

Yes. You guys are doing a real good job. Yes. Be coming back in if you want to. Yeah, we need to talk about.

We'll come get you. About 3 o'clock, looks like.

Yeah. Okay. After following on with the corn stalks this weekend, I thought maybe that better not be. It might be safer here. Thanks, DJ. Thank you.

You're welcome.

i'm sure catherine coming in today okay i know we're early but i haven't heard otherwise i'm gonna do the minutes and get some of that stuff out of the road yeah and there is two sets of minutes um one for hearings and then one for our regular session it looks like that hearing is on my emotional news that's the minutes from september 28th so i'm gonna

They've moved and seconded. We accept both sets of minutes from September 8th. All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed, same sign. The minutes were from our regular meeting and then the budget meetings.

And on the copies, I think you guys, I had August 8th and I did correct that to September 8th on this final copy.

I must have missed that one.

Yep, I saw it. I saw it today and I don't know how it was left behind. I ALSO MISSPELLED COUNCIL IN MY EMAIL AND I ALMOST SENT OUT ANOTHER EMAIL BUT I DID NOT THAT THE RNR ONE IS JUST ONE PAGE OKAY I know.

Thank you. Go ahead. We got our first month of our non-savings, I guess, from freedom claims. Yeah. We're way over. I noticed, and I talked to Tyson about this this morning, and there's really nothing we can do about it. But, you know, the hospital is back billing and going back and getting a lot of this for the hospital. Right. And I'm just wondering if that's not some of the pushover. And I don't know if there's anything we can do about it. If we continue month after month and they'll come back and want to raise our rates, we can say, hey, This may have been back stuff because I know they're trying to go back to the insurance companies saying they're not paying what they should be paying. So I don't know. I don't know how that works, but it got me thinking. Because, you know, our first month and we're already in the hole.

Yeah, I noticed that.

I don't know if anybody that's definitely sick would be wrong, but anyway. That was my thought.

I didn't know if... Well, they would, too, try to hold it against us.

Oh, yeah. I mean, it's one of those things where they're coming last year and it comes in this year. We're still going to be...

If it was built correctly, we're going to get hit at one point or another.

Yeah, sooner or later.

I just... I don't know. You know, the first month in, we're already underwater in... Because there's really not a whole lot more options we can do to separate what they're paying.

Yeah.

And that's not going to go over well.

No, but I understand that too.

But I just, I'd be curious to know if this was some of the reasoning. Yeah. I don't know what PRMC's doing and I don't know, I don't have privy to

that information but well and if we see a trend we can always get um darren back in here um to go over yeah we're not asking what it is it would be more the dates and right well and yeah yeah just you know trends and what we're seeing and if we need to make adjustments or whatever yeah and they and they lab to those reports by the time you know so yep

yeah i just don't want to get six months into this and we're not saving any money and we're going to find a way to push money over to them not saving anybody and still paying them yeah well there is a cap on that correct i remember that was like one of the things like that it's they get paid i don't remember the terminology there's a guaranteed payment and then there's a percentage of what they

So if you don't save any, they're not getting paid on that. But they do get a service fee for each person.

It's just something I thought I'd bring up and we can watch. Yeah, we need to keep an eye on it. Because I know people are getting bills from months and years ago. And some of us just now are getting turned into insurance.

yep i do have an update on the tax foreclosure so we filed against 16 that was a few weeks ago six have already came in and fully redeemed so that means that they've paid the 375 court costs and then it's brought back in 58 thousand six ninety seven seventy one so Pretty good number, pretty quick. I would bet that of the remaining 10, we'll probably get at least three more, just based off what I can see from the records. There's some farm ground in there that will almost certainly get redeemed. I'm having a little bit of trouble getting service on some folks, so we'll see where that goes. Estimating, so it'll be, at the very earliest in January at this point, just where we're at, how slow it takes to get there.

You guys want to do the extension and the branch?

Might as well.

Mark where you need to go.

It is.

I checked on both. I had Jody resend her since it was like that increase that she had. I had her redo that.

Do we need a motion, I guess? A motion to approve the annual budget for extension office. $146,500.

Second permission. Move and second, we approve the budget for the Extension Council.

That one was the judicial one.

I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm reading the wrong one. OK. Extension should be 270?

240, I believe is the current line there.

Yeah. yeah 224 yeah 224 766 yeah i see that man my emotions sorry they moved and seconded to approve the budget for county extension council with 224 766 all in favor say aye aye opposed same sign motion carries budget make the budget i will make a motion to approve the annual budget for district court for 146 500 on second motion been moved in section we approved the budget for the district court for 146 500 all in favor say aye aye opposed same sign motion carried

Did we make a police report on that too?

Yeah. She, um, I let her know on Thursday and, um, she emailed me this morning with that and said also. and gave us the case number on that. And I did hear back on Willie and it is, we just go towards our deductible and the insurance, so.

And it's just the building, that phone box is not our responsibility, so. Okay.

So I don't know how we want to handle that, if we want to get someone just to go paint that or?

No, can you wash spray paint off the metal building? I should wash that?

There was graffiti on the back of the extension box. Showed up last week.

I can get right over there with some with some air washer and see if it'll come off. That'd be the only thing. It won't and then I look at sandblasting and repainting which won't match.

No, no. Yes. You can't hear it say that it's in the back against the railroad tracks. Yeah.

It would be tipped to just paint over it.

Yeah, that's what I would paint over.

If nobody sees it.

If nobody sees it.

I'll show you a picture of it.

also paint the whole that whole section whole section if it doesn't come up by pressure washer yeah there you go i don't you can look at it

what kind of paint.

It should be almost like an antique white, the building.

Yeah.

It shouldn't be like a high gloss. It's going to be more like a, unfortunately there's 37 shades of white. Yeah.

And you know it's been faded for years.

You'll never match it.

Yeah.

So you'll just paint it trim to trim if it has to be redone or Just get it close enough.

Yeah.

Yeah. It's on the backside.

Yeah. Road crossing.

I'll make a motion to approve a road crossing permit for

South Central Telecom from Southwest 10th Avenue and 70274 Southwest 10th Avenue. I'm assuming across the street there.

Second the motion. We're moving second to approve a road crossing for South Central Telephone in the Southwest part of the county. All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed, same sign. Motion carried.

would you guys get a chance to check out that transparency pool that i sent you an example from another county yeah yes thoughts i did i did email her and asked about cost and it was a little under 5 000 for the year and it's um civic plus or it's um cleargov and they also have civic plus that powers their website which is also who we have so i they must work together for that because they have the exact same setup that we have who fits all that together they do or somebody in the clerk's office i'm sure that i will i'm sure i will have to feed them the information like my levy sheet that i have anyway and then they in our budget and then they go in and and that's my understanding i haven't talked to cleargov um but that's my understanding that they then produce all that and have

you could see where the they went in and put notes from the treasurer on like to give explanation on some of the stuff so to the extent you want to do that we'd be the one coming up with the explanation of that I just didn't know if they just grabbed that information off the state somewhere and put it out there because I tried to look at other counties through there and you can't it's that kind of yes it's on their website yeah it's just like a tool that they have on their website

But they use on their account. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

For their accounting for their taxpayership.

That's cheaper than I thought it would be. I mean, it's still a question of whether people actually go and look at it. True.

Yeah.

But I think it's, I think it is a good tool for us to put the information out there.

Yeah.

Yeah. And it is a levy sheet. I mean, it's basically the information that's on a levy sheet. and our budget broken down into a consumable product. A user-friendly product. Yeah, that's easily digestible in bite-sized pieces of information. And it puts it in, like, you know, if you live in a certain township or a certain tax unit, you can go in there and look exactly what all that is. And then it, yeah, it breaks it down for you. But At least I think it's a good tool. Like if we were wanting to get that information out there, it would be a good tool for us to use to do that. Whether people would utilize it and make it worth it, that's another.

It shows the taxpayers that the tax statement they get isn't all county tax dollars. Correct. Or does it all go to the county?

Yep. And I felt like it did a good job breaking that down too and showing exactly where it went. Yeah.

well technically it does go to the county and then well yeah you know what else yeah yeah we don't get all those right right county doesn't keep it all doesn't go to county use yes correct i don't know i mean if you want i can get with clear go if you could get something formal like whatever their agreement looks like yeah we can go over it and see because

i think it would be nice to have it up and running before everybody pays their taxes in december i've seen that kid i've seen him walk it in so i think you could it should be plenty of time yeah you can come on up we were running early oh right

So I'm Catherine with Community Corrections, and I just came today essentially just to kind of give stats for our FY26 that closed the end of June, June 30th. Okay. So I'm going to start with, let's see, I'll start with adult. So with adult in our four county area, we had 61 adults that came through that were placed on probation or at least supervised in the four county area. And it shouldn't be a surprise that 57% of all the people that were placed on probation were placed here on probation, yeah, and supervised. We have noticed kind of a surprising trend in the past few years where, like for example, this past year, other people that came on probation, so not the ones that fully completed supervision, but the ones that were placed on probation, 42% were actually presumptive prison. So there are people that normally would have actually gone to prison, but they were placed with us because there were either extenuating circumstances or treatment or something that was available in the community. So we've seen kind of a weird trend where, and I can't see that there's any rhyme or reason that we'll have some people on supervision well i'd say 20 30 years ago the majority of people that were placed on probation that presumed prison went to prison and now it it's different every year there's and there's like there isn't anything that we can specifically look at to say oh well this individual did this this or this and you know they're going to go to prison because they failed probation um It's the strangest thing. So there seems to be more people that are placed on probation now who are presumptive prison, who don't want to go to prison. And so we see more people who are presumptive who actually complete successfully, which means they didn't pick up new cases. They're not currently serving a prison sentence in some other state. And that's why they just haven't gone back through our system. They're ones that actually just finish it successfully. So that's sort of like a newer trend that we've been seeing, which is kind of surprising. Because before whenever we'd get a person on supervision and they're presumptive, we'd all kind of groan because we knew that they were going to mess up our numbers. And since part of our funding is whether or not people complete successfully or not complete, it was honestly sort of annoying. But now we see more people that are placed on probation who are presumptive who don't want to go to prison. So that's just kind of a newer trend that we see. of the people that were placed on probation, and this is probably not a surprise to all of you, 95% of those people that are adults have a current drug problem or have had a prior drug or alcohol problem, or both. And that's not any newer today, and it's not changed from the last 20 or 30 years that we've seen. That's pretty consistent. So of the people that actually completed supervision, we had 34 people that were actually on supervision that completed successfully, which means they did everything that were required to. They paid their case. If they had like, I won't say, yeah, I will say like if they had some kind of drug and alcohol counseling to complete, or mental health services to get or medication they were required to take because of getting mental health services. They did those things. So of those people, we had five people that actually complete successfully and they were done early. And that's almost unheard of to actually have because you can't have any violations when you're on supervision. you literally have to get everything completed, everything paid. Um, so we are seeing, um, even a trend there where we're beginning to see a few more people here and there. We used to never have anybody complete successfully that were actually early. And what I mean by early, I mean, um, Yeah. So it's really rare. In fact, unless they go back to court, we don't see people that do half of their time. So early can be 2 months, 3 months, 4 months early, but that's something that they're not, they're not filing. We're actually doing for them, which is sort of like, unusual. See of the people that completed successfully. It looks like 30 of the 34 people that complete successfully. Had to do some kind of drug and alcohol counseling all of them completed it. Um, three of them had to do some type of mental health counseling with or without medication. And we had six of them that actually did in house services, um, where they're actually meeting with, uh, um, we call them a program consultant. And it's through our behavioral health grant. And, um, six of the people that actually applied for it, participate in the program actually completed supervision successfully. So this past year we sent seven adults to prison. It looks like one was on a brand new felony and six of them were conditional. And of the six that were conditional, it looks like two of them, sorry, two of them, yeah, two of them had only one PV hearing, which means most likely it looks like they were both presumptive prison. So they didn't get any opportunities for whatever reason they didn't get any opportunities. And of the remaining five people, it looks like three of them had at least two PV hearings and three of them, sorry, two of them had three PV hearings. So yeah, it looks like one absconded of that. And then we had a bunch of them that just didn't do their counseling, didn't do treatment, didn't pay, weren't employed, moved and didn't report that they had moved. basically didn't comply with enough requirements of supervision that they ended up having to go back to court. Typically with our program, a person can make minor mistakes on supervision and not immediately go back to court unless the judge tells us they're presumptive and they don't get a second chance, they have to be back in court. For everybody else, the only things that can really drive them back into court immediately is if they are supposed to do inpatient and they choose not to, they go back to court. or if they completely abscond or they pick up like a new felony, they go back to court and that's just kind of an automatic where you don't get a lot of chances. So we did have, it looks like 10 people that completed unsuccessfully and of the 10, two of them unfortunately died while in supervision. And what we're seeing, I think less so in Harper County, but it's been pretty consistent the last nine years, 10 years. Um, or we would have individuals, um, that were being placed on supervision for much longer periods of time. And I guess making quite a few mistakes, but, um, because they continue to owe court money, um, they just kept getting extended. And at some point the court decided enough's enough and they opted to just cut them loose. So the court doesn't typically do that if they owe restitution, but if they just owe fees or attorneys fees, that's something that we're beginning to see happen more often where they don't get to stay on probation for five, 10 or 15 years anymore. So, which honestly we appreciate because it allows us to give more time to people that are really more of a risk and more of a concern on supervision. Did you guys have any questions about our stats? Okay, I guess so the only other thing I'd add is we also do and according to like keeping stats and having measurements that KDOC has, they also require that we do the case plan. And for case plan, we have to choose three evidence-based practices and basically work on that throughout the year. And so what we chose for both the adult and the juvenile was mostly because KDOC opted to have a contract for us to do quality assurance practices when it comes to risk assessments and just face-to-face contacts and just basically following what our actual policy and procedures require. So that's what we've done for the adult and for the juvenile. On the juvenile side, the contract is a two, I think two to three year contract. So we opted for both of them to go ahead and essentially mirror both of them.

You're all right.

to do what we're doing on the juvenile side, on the adult side. So I'd say overall, we've done pretty well. I haven't really seen any real problems that we've had to really look into. The one thing that KTOC has done, which I think is helpful, is normally you go and you do training. then that's all you get and then there's not like a follow-up that makes sure that you actually learn something and you're actually putting those um the things that you learn into practice and so what they've opted to do is now we've started having actual like they call it booster training so the original training may have been 24 hours where you completed over a week period And the booster is like six to eight hours. Sometimes the booster is more of you basically take an exam just to show that you've actually retained some of that material and you can use it in the same way that they teach us to. So everyone has done really well about making sure that we get our continuing hours and that we've participated in this contract as we're expected to. So I've been pretty pleased with the way that we've done that. And on the juvenile side, we are just as busy on the juvenile side. I'll just start really quick with our kids that come through our juvenile intake. I will say 20 years ago, we used to see on average 200 youth that would come through juvenile intake. And these kids would be runaways. They're kids that were On probation, they had violated and so there was a warrant for their arrest their kids that were just new coming in and had never been in trouble before. And most of the kids that would be placed on probation back then were extremes they're either there because they were at a beer party and everybody got busted or a sex offender and we're finding that. the types of things that kids do to get in trouble are about the same there's really not a lot of difference there's a lot of kids that get in trouble for smaller things that um in the long run won't have as much of an effect on them as far as like their ability to get a job and an education and stuff and then those children that um I should say children but you know teenagers that are getting arrested for felony sort of offenses we see the same thing that we've been seeing since I've been here, since 1994, where it's just sort of a mix. The only difference now that we see is we have a diversion program by IP. And so we are beginning to see, I guess, a few more numbers when it comes to our IP. We had nine that started this year and 26 new ones that came through. The average thing that youth are now referred for used to be battery. It's now drug and alcohol issues. Um, so we still see alcohol vaping is a new thing that we're meaning to see where they're actually vaping with marijuana, not just tobacco. And, uh, let's see of the kids that we've had that actually came through 23 complete successfully this past year with our. And for you were discharged unsuccessfully, which means most likely they have restitution and they didn't completely pay it. or they had additional requirements they were supposed to do and didn't finish those. So they were referred back to the county attorney. Where the kids that actually got placed on probation, we had like, I think we had like 18 kids that were placed on probation. No, we had 26 kids that were placed on probation. And 23 of them completed successfully And one of them didn't. And that one was actually what we consider our conditional release youth. That was a kid that actually went to a correctional facility for a sex offense. Unfortunately, immediately reoffended as an adult when he got out and is now back in prison again. So not a success there. So you'll probably see it for quite a few years. Our numbers are about the same, although we're getting to see more youth that are coming back for PVs on our juvenile probation. And so we do expect to see more kids that are placed in detention probably from here on. A lot of those, I shouldn't say a lot of kids, many of those kids have pretty severe mental health issues as well. So we are seeing more and more youth that are placed on probation for all different reasons, but there are also juveniles that are in our, in our system where they're pulled out of home because they're completely out of control, and either the home environment is not safe for them, or they're so much out of control that their victims are also in their home, and so they're being placed elsewhere right now, and they're seeing kids. So, do you guys have any questions, I guess?

I do. Okay. I'll see you for the update.

Right. So I was hoping to get signatures this week. Which one is this? This is for our juvenile. I was hoping you would vote to go ahead and approve.

I'll make a motion that we sign the community corrections year-end signature approval form for this one's juvenile.

Second the motion. We've been moved and seconded. We signed the fiscal year 26 community corrections year-end signatory form all in favor say aye aye opposed same sign motion excuse me yeah and that's our year end one for our adults and i'll make it motion approved 2026 community correction year-end signatory approval form for the adults but moving in second we approve the fiscal year 2026 community correction year-end form for the adults all in favor say aye aye aye opposed same sign motion carried i did say hi but it was i got you

All right. Thank you very much. And I'll be back, I think, next month because we're purchasing two new vehicles.

When are you retiring?

In January.

Everybody's retiring.

We've all been here a long time.

Thank you.

Yeah, I'd like to request an executive session for non-elected personnel to discuss hiring.

I'll make that motion.

10 minutes, please.

Also good.

We're moving in second. We're going to executive session for non-elected personnel to discuss hiring for 10 minutes. All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed, same sign. We'll be in executive session. yep okay i'll make a motion we come out of the executive session no action taken i'll take it they moved in second we come out of executive session no action taken all in favor say aye aye aye the phone same sign we're back in open session uh i did miss 15.

Yeah, as I said, probably need more than 10. Let's do 20.

I'll make a motion. We go into executive session to discuss non-elected personnel for employment in the appraiser's office.

I'll second the motion. I'll second. We go into executive session for 20 minutes to discuss non-elected personnel in the appraiser's office. All in favor, say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed same sign motion carried.

We'll make a motion we come out of executive session with no action taken.

Seconded. Moved and seconded. We come out of executive session, no action taken. All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed, same sign. We're back in open session. Thank you, DJ. Thanks, DJ.

See you later. We're going to let it fill down like you promised me.

We'll go through next week. I said that two weeks ago.

Yeah. Thank you. See you later.

How are you? Good. Can I come up? Sure. Absolutely. So I have a real quick just idea. It won't take much time. This is our insurance for the building. It includes everything. It's our malpractice and everything. But it renews in October, so they just went over it with me. And I just wanted to share it with you guys because I think I have an idea that might save us some money.

Yeah.

Um, so the hospital is currently insured for replacement value. And of course it's a big building and it's $176 million is the replacement value. And I think on there, it says the total insurance costs. That's I want to say it's the 327,000. So if you look at page 45, so. What I was thinking is, because if the hospital, I mean, about the only things to totally take the whole thing out would be a tornado. I mean, even if you had a fire, you'd have a shell and foundation and stuff like that. So I was thinking, and, you know, it's something you guys can take some time and think about and do some research on. But my idea would be... the whole hospital could be replaced in such a way that it would be able to do everything we're able to do right now for about 60 million. So that would be a 60,000 square feet building at $1,000 square foot rebuild. I mean, you may not do it on that property. You may have to go to a different property, but it wouldn't take 176 million, about 176,310,000. And so my idea was to drop that 176, which is in the lease. So we'd need to you know, have whatever, yeah, whatever paperwork's necessary to change the lease and agree that this, and we could put like a CPI cap on it. I would have given you guys a little heads up if I'd known I was coming, but the board met and they was like, go talk to the county, you know, they're meeting right now. And I'm so, I'm sorry to kind of rush you with an idea. so my idea would just be now actually 776 million if you see that 130 million this is by chubb insurance group if you see that loss limit of insurance they're actually not and i didn't know this this is my obviously my first time through it it's not technically even insured for all 176 million because they say we don't care what happens we're not paying more than 130. gotcha so it's technically not insured for the 176 but that's what the valuation they say the entire property would be and my my thinking is just like i don't think you would really replace all the buildings that you have right now i don't think you would now that doesn't mean that um we you know you guys may say hey we it's in the lease let's just go ahead and leave it how it is and if that's the case that's fine i get it i did bump the copay or the deductible there was a bunch of things that had zero dollar deductible um when i went through the details and so i bumped the deductible on this from the uh fifty thousand dollars aop to two hundred fifty thousand dollars and um so i think i'm gonna save money on this no matter what i do i already there was a doctor that was had the wrong insurance he had ob and he doesn't do ob so that was 25 000. i had a um and a $5 million umbrella on the liability side. And we already have $1 million, $3 million. And the guy who's over this, Chris Conradti, said, well, umbrellas are usually when people want, if you have a bunch of cash that you want to protect, you may not have a bunch of cash you want to protect. So if I drop that, that was $93,000 just for dropping that one liability. um idea so I think we're going to save at least I think I'll save around 240 000 with just the ideas I have right now but I don't want to I can't do anything on this without your guys permission because it's in the lease and I just want to make sure David appreciate it yeah yeah okay just a quick question here on this insurance does this cover

loss of stuff inside the building yeah 176 million it's the whole enchilada and if you want i can give you the book would that tie somebody up i might we might well that's okay yeah i'll communicate okay i mean i'll communicate with david and he will communicate with you yeah okay i'm not an insurance expert i was wondering why that was 176 million it has to include everything inside yeah it does it does

If you go to the details of it, they price it out, that $176 million, which you got.

For the buildings. Yeah. And that's fine.

So it's.

Yeah, the building's 101. Personal property, 33 million. So 101 million for the building. Personal property, 33 million, and it has business income. So like if you lose your income, I think it's 75% of that estimated income. So you're not able to operate. They give you 41 million for that.

So I'm not an insurance guy. David needs to look at it. Yeah. I mean, I'm not saying no, I'm not. Yeah, I just.

I mean, you know what you're doing. Well, I wouldn't say I'm not an insurance guy either, so I'm glad.

What is this?

It's October one, but usually can't be like even if you sign up for insurance, I thought you could like like like if you made a change like my car insurance, if I like make a change mid year, I thought you could kind of like adjust it.

Yeah, like my insurance, they won't let you make a change until a renewal.

Have like a third party that helps you with your insurance? Yeah, it's Conrad. Yeah, it's on the bottom of each one of the sheets too. That's Chris Conrad.

Yeah, let us look at it. Okay. Not that I'm an expert. Yeah, but we will.

Yeah, have it reviewed and see what we have. Because we're going to have to reduce. Okay.

We're going to have to redo bonds here next month anyway. or sign the deal.

The rent credit. The rent credit. So would that be a time to change it too? Kevin might need to be involved in the bond. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

I don't know if there's a... Well, the bonds were only like $28 or $32 million.

So we'd still be above that, but depending on what he has in his bond documents, it might impact what you're able to do.

Yeah, because that's what I'm thinking is that it may have a set limit. I don't know. Okay.

I'm waiting on a response back. And it's full replacement value. So like, you know, if you have an actual cash value, then that means they replace your roof, but your roof is, you know, halfway depreciated. So even though it takes $2 million to replace your roof, they only replace it a million. So the lease requires true, the $2 million. So this is replacement value insurance. It's for the whole enchilada. But it did have a cap that really doesn't go to the whole enchilada.

There again, it's tied to the bonds. We'll have to do some work. Yeah. No, it's not a no-brainer.

You guys got to make sure to check the boxes with the legal people. But I wanted to bring them by while you guys are meeting today. We'll get back to those things. Okay. All right, thanks guys.

We got Joe Cooper driving you around.

He's with Buehler and they wanted to, he's, I'm mentoring, I think is what it's called. He's shadowing me for, I told him to stay another day. He's staying today and tomorrow. I said, you got to stay tomorrow. So I take him, I took him to the board meeting. I took him, I'm like, come to the county meeting. I'm like, yeah. You'll learn a lot from this guy.

I have learned a ton, and I'm not even an accountant.

I'm not an accountant either. So, yeah. Okay. Well, thanks for looking at it, guys.

Thanks for coming in. Well, was it related to the bonds or not?

I'm sure that there's something in the bond documents that would require some minimums.

I would take your property with me.

Is it me? Mm-hmm. I'd request a 10-minute executive session for attorney-client privilege to discuss the RMC.

I'd like that motion. I'll second it. The moving section, we go to executive session for 10 minutes to discuss non-elected personnel or attorney-client. Excuse me, attorney client for PRMC. All in favor, say aye. Aye. Opposed, same sign.

We're in executive session. I'll make a motion we come out of executive session with no action taken.

I'll second it.

I move and second we come out of executive session with no action taken. All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed, same sign. We're back in open session. Anybody? Aye. Yes, we will. Work maintenance request.

And then you need quotes.

Oh, okay.

Yeah. we had a maintenance request from the registered deeds i was concerned with some of the air conditioning units not to not working which we know they're not we only have so many working i just you know this close to fall i think we need to wait and see if we can move this project along at some point

instead of replacing one here going there and then doing the piping and that's my opinion i can't see doing it i'm not saying it doesn't need to be done how long has it been this or how many years has it been this way the back one was semi-working and then when we went down to 50 percent usage we lost it yeah and it may be to come back hopefully when they get a stuff back on but i just can't see spending the money piecemeal of it when we know we need to do a complete overall overhaul of the whole hvac system what do you think tom i think we just put it off for a little bit sounds good

We have a bid, it looks like, for overseeding the courthouse and the sheriff's office to fill the ruts from the previous construction. $860, it looks like, for grading to fix the ruts. And then courthouse. For the seed starter lawn fertilizer, it's $4,451.57. And then the sheriff's office. Who doesn't give a estimate on that?

That's the total. Oh, there it is.

$2,212. for a grant total of $7,524.13. What do you guys think on this?

We've got a black grass. Now's the time.

should we get other bids on this well they're the ones that did the sprinkling system so they kind of know what we need and everything yeah yeah i understand and level the ground out yeah because it's you know the estimate includes installation of the top soil to fill in ruts from previous construction i got five tons of that

Well, we need to get it back in good condition.

Yeah.

I don't have a problem with it. That's fine.

I'll make a move. What do you want this to come out of?

Capital outlay or district court? District court's fine.

You mean courthouse, not district court?

Yeah, not district court.

I hear the judge coming down right now.

Probably needs to come out of capital improvements to seclude the sheriff's office.

True.

I'll make a motion to approve the seating and filling in the ruts here at the courthouse for $7,524.13. I'll second the motion.

It's been moved and seconded. We approve Muni Wandscapes to do the fixing of the ruts and the grass seating to the courthouse and the sheriff's office for 75, 24, 13. All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed, same sign. Motion carried. Don't they do our fertilizer and stuff?

Snow removal. They've been awarded all of the bids so far. Yeah, because they've been coming in at really good. I think they've been our lowest bids on all of them.

Of course, they're not putting much down. I guess they're just putting it where they're planting the grass.

Yeah, I'm sure that's what's going on.

That probably wasn't on our original broadcast estimate. Okay, never mind.

That's what I'm going to say, that is.

If I was once I read it, I'd sign that. Anybody have anything else?

i'll make a motion to pay the doctor no second then move in section we pay the vouchers all in favor say aye aye aye same sign motion carried payroll one's in there as well The courthouse.

The generator out here got service. Okay. That's what I'm assuming. That makes sense. And I did, there were some capital improvement charges on the canine. yeah and you know we we agreed to help them get started but that's more of a maintenance so accessory went back and changed that out yep and i did get word back that they believe they're done with the startup cost so unless something changes it'll start coming out of that canine And for you folks at home, you'd like a job to work in the Pratt County clerk's office. For friendly.

It's a fun time. Most days.

But wait, there's more. I could do a commercial for you.

Might pick you up on it.

You can find somebody better looking than me, by the way.

it's not a bad idea we could like maybe do a little media there and do like a commercial yeah we just get all of us in there and that's not a bad idea well we think i ain't working with them crazy right it's definitely wrong and you know that would be fair tom how'd your wildcast look this weekend it looks okay

Defense is pretty good. Offense is improving. Just learned how not to throw in reception. The defense didn't really actually have a score against them, did they?

What's that?

The defense didn't really actually have a score against them, did they? Would they have to pick six?

No.

I was watching one game. I think it was Texas. They were waiting. And they were getting blown out. So I went and watched something else. And then I see on the deal, they ended up coming back to win it. So I must have missed another game.

He must have done a lot of coaching during the regular season. He played better the second time.

He watched the Chiefs tonight. Now it feels like football season. Yeah.

A little cooler temperatures.

I think he's going to be watching football and eating chili.

Thank you. Appreciate it. I'm going to put this in Mary's because it's Doug's road crossing here. That way it gets to him and I don't have to worry about it.

I remember, yes.

I need to be worried about AI taking over my job, Mark. It's kind of scary. Worry about taking over mine so I just shut everything down.

Yeah, this was an interesting week for that, wasn't it?

Yeah, it was.

You have to do away with the human race, you know?

Yeah. They have to go back to the old days, log cabin.

They forget that people can turn off AI. Yeah.

funny the younger generation seems to be pretty against it like um all of my kids college level and down are like they don't use it they don't and um jeff was like oh i use it all the time and um my youngest daughter is 12. she said it gets the old people first so you're on your one less child now yeah right now we actually all kind of laugh and i'm like you know that's after there's a lot of truth to that just keep laughing you'll be there see the city yeah who's that

Doug Henning, I guess that's how you pronounce his name. Doug Henning. Appointed him Friday. Vince only had like 10 days. Yeah. To do that.

I saw Kyle at the funeral, and he said, we hate to do it that scene, but that's what the law says. And they didn't want to appoint one of the ones that were running. I think he'd be all right. What does he do? Oh, okay. i want to go straight from catholic church okay um i know where you're talking about oakland school gotcha pictures of inside that catholic church yeah it does

I do want to say for the people that came to our budget hearing last week, thank you again for coming. Nice having people in here.

Yes, it was. I like to ask good questions. Thank you.

Yeah, I didn't know if terminators were going to be showing up at my door. Red eyes on. Sarah, what's your last name? Sarah. Connor. They're kind of... Don't let her in.

Yeah. I'll make a motion to adjourn. I'll second it. We're moving to second. We adjourn. All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed, same sign.