Affordable Housing Commission - Regular Meeting

So, it's uh 50:07. Uh we'll get the meeting started and um let's start off with any guests in attendance. This one, my daughter Sophia. Oh, okay. Awesome. Welcome, Sophia. Hi, Sophia. Hi, Sophia. It's a great name.

Wow. A very nice. Thanks, Sean. Um, so we'll uh we'll get started. So, um, if we don't have any other guests, um, do I have a motion to approve the meeting uh, minutes from the last two meetings, October and November. Uh, please. So, move. Sure. Let me make a motion. Approve. Right. All right, I got seven people there. There. So, give me the first one. Was that uh I'll make the motion. Anybody basically?

Yeah, just anybody. Just write names down. It's all good. We all approve. Okay. Sheila first and Sean second. So, before we before we You got my email about the minutes for November. The bottom was incorrect. I did. Yes. Yeah. Okay. So, that needs to be revised cuz I didn't make a motion to close last meeting cuz I wasn't here. Correct. Yep.

And who's that? She Sheila was just like, just say anybody. [laughter] No, I I'll I'll get you off there, Sean. And I'll revise the November minutes to reflect the fact that uh Sean was not actually uh at the meeting to second second the motion. Okay. Okay. We're ready. Okay. Good. So, let's get started. Um so, um not too many things happened uh earlier to earlier this year, but um one thing that did happen was the House bill uh which was 5002 now 8002 as amended by Lamont um has passed with his signature. So, um it doesn't really hold uh any kind of um ram ramifications for us today. Um but in the future, uh it it could. So, I would like everybody to just kind of uh maybe do a little bit of research on uh bill 8002 and uh see what it holds for old lime. Uh and your thoughts would be greatly appreciated at the next meeting. Um not uh you know as we're not a commission that is able to do any kind of zoning or planning but we can recommend um ideas to zoning and planning to carry forward uh as zoning revises their um their agenda really all together all their uh rules and regulations together. Um so if anybody has any thoughts on that I'd be happy to to discuss. Okay. All right. So, let's move on. Um, go ahead. Sorry, Jen. I couldn't get to my mute button. Um,

go right ahead. Excuse me. I think it would be um helpful at least for me um if we could maybe in our January meeting on it together making sure that we all like I haven't gotten to read through I know I've heard others opinions around it but I don't I feel like that's something that so many people are talking about and and it's something that obviously could have an impact on us so I feel like I you we should understand it. Well, is it possible that we could, you know, set aside like a half an hour at the January meeting to just dig into it a little bit? Yeah.

I don't know if anybody else feels that way. Maybe it's just me. If that's the case, I'll I can figure it out. [laughter] No, I'm sure other people are feeling the same way. So, um, what I can do is send out maybe a a synopsis of the, well, it'll be hard to do a synopsis of the bill, but of the pertinent parts of the bill anyways, that would um possibly um, you know, impact old lime and, um, I get that to you ahead of uh, ahead of the new year so that you can digest it. Okay. Um, so that'd be great. Thank you so much,

Jen. I'm pretty sure that Martha Marx and Devin Carney, I'm pretty sure they have um bullet points. So, it might be worth just reaching out to both of them and getting them to provide their bullet points to us so we can both sides. Yep. That would be great, Sean. Thank you. I appreciate that. I'll do that.

Chad, this is Fred. Uh I I think this is going to be a, you know, a big year for Affordable Housing Commission. uh you know this bill is 100 pages and it's hard to really read it and digest it. I've seen some summaries that themselves were 75 pages. So [laughter] it I you know I think uh someone or or multiple people need to take a really good look working with I think Rivercog that uh uh and probably other people Martha Marx and uh and Carney who are um you know scrutinizing this. You know, I think that we are going to that old line probably will end up participating in a regional uh uh housing plan.

Uh probably not going to write our an individual housing plan, but it also has re you know repercussions for the zoning rewrite and planning and zoning. So, uh

quite right. [snorts] Yeah. So I think some number of us need to take a deep dive working with these people uh as a task as an affordable housing commission task uh you know separate from all the other tasks just because I I I think asking all of us to do it by ourselves probably you know some of us you know do a little some will do more but I I it, you know, someone some people need to be focused so they can work with the other the bodies that are also working on this and uh get a better handle on it.

It'd be my thought. Oh, that's a great Yeah, that's a great thought.

Go ahead. So, a question I have then if if there is I mean we we it sounds like we may not know this but if there is um a strong potential that we could be working together on a regional plan um I I would assume that at some point uh representatives from you know the various constituents would come together. So, I'm wondering is it I mean Sean, you mentioned um bullet points that Devon and and Martha have already created. Would it be appropriate to invite them or someone else as guests to our next meeting and kind of walk us through some things or is that, you know, overkill on their time considering they may be involved in many of those conversations? I I I you know I this is Fred. I think that you know everyone's kind of digesting this bill right now. I don't know if next month would be premature but uh either you know I could reach out to Rivercog and see what they have. I I think they're the the regional body that's going to be drawing up a regional plan and I think they probably more than either one of those representatives would have some preliminary handle and and uh I can ask them if they want to come to our next meeting or you know if they've had time to formulate a plan.

That's a good idea. Sure. Yeah. Yeah, Fred, I think I mean even if we No, go ahead. Go ahead. Oh, no. I was just going to say to Fred that um Eliza L prestie, who is our regional U rivercog representative on the housing commission, um she would be the point of contact for that. Eliza Lo prey. Eliza L. Capital [clears throat] L O P R E S T I. Yeah, but I I'll send you her email address. too. Okay. So, you'll shoot her email to me. Uh-huh. Yep. Okay.

Okay. The other thing I'm I'm wondering if it's if it's it sounds like it's a pretty big document and even the summaries are big documents, but we could, you know, we could maybe in preparation for the next meeting, although coming right off the holidays, maybe we can jigsaw it out. And I I haven't looked at the actual document. I don't know if it's chunkable in ways that make sense. Like a couple of us could take, you know, the first 20 pages and we could just share out with one another. It's just a thought if that's too much. I taken I don't know if it's jigsaw, but I mean the first

10 pages are definitions and those definitions need [clears throat] to be inserted in various parts of the document to be able to understand it. Then it refers back to other It's not a quick read. It's not a quick read. 100 pages. Yeah.

It's not. And and and those pages are um shrunk down from a larger document also. So it's it's not something that I would say to parse out to people. Um but yeah, but I think between uh Devon and Eliza and um Fred, we could probably, you know, get to the meat of it, you know, and and uh the the subject for Old Lime basically, it's not like um so in the old bill 5002, it was kind of clear that it was u okay, Old Lime House to bill 422 of you know, affordable housing units. um that was pretty crystal clear. But but in this one, it's more of a regional um uh thing that u does have assignments. Um it still h has that but um it doesn't have the actual numbers and um so it makes it a little bit more nebulous um as far as the bill goes. But I think that between Devon and Sean and um and Martha uh etc. Martha Marks, etc. We could get to the bottom of it and see what impact it does have for uh zoning. And also remember that um Michael Foglaniano is very keen on on the housing uh bills and and things and he's also on the zoning board. So um so it will do us some good to actually work with them to, you know, figure out what they know, what we know, that kind of thing. So let me let me make some uh initial calls and foray and uh uh see at least my best uh approach or thoughts on the approach to digesting this and what we can do and

uh then I I I think you know some smaller number of us should you know get involved uh because there there will be a lot of uh involvement uh this year. So um you know we'd like volunteers to do that and uh that's all I'm going to say for now. Oh, so I think I heard Sheila volunteer. [laughter]

Sheila volunteer. Sorry. Sorry, once again, I couldn't get to my mute button. No, that all that all makes sense. And no, you absolutely did not hear me volunteer. However, I will do what is needed to do. [laughter] You're the best. Uh, this is Jimmy.

I I agree with you that I agree with everyone on on here that uh it's kind of our obligation to to understand this. I mean, at a bare minimum, um, if you want to be involved on a board like this, that's that's kind of this is what our what we're expected to do. So, um I don't know how many people you're looking for, but this is certainly in my wheelhouse and something that uh I deal with all the time and I want to understand as it you know now that it's changed definitely um I can certainly volunteer to to be in that group that focuses on it to understand it and and and to explain it to others which is the really key element. It's very confusing.

Exactly. There's a there's a ton of misinformation. um you know it's it is a lot of things and it also isn't a lot of things at the same time. So whether or not the zoning commission you know understands it completely and can implement it maybe that's our responsibility to help them understand um so that the new rags can reflect this change or vice versa um so hopefully I can help. So let me know Fred. All right thanks Jim. I love that Jim. appreciate it. Sure.

Okay. So, we'll go with um so Sheila, Jim, Fred, uh myself, um and and you know, really anybody else that wants to what what we want to do, Fred, probably is, um just take a little bit of a deeper dive into it. What I can do is collect the information that's already out there um in the public and circulate it to uh this. I'm sorry. Go ahead.

Oh, yeah.

What's your first name? Hold on. Sorry. Ross. Ross. It's like voice name and you I'm Sean. So, we had somebody join us. Um, her first name is Ross. What's your last name? So, Higgins. Ross Higgins. Did you add that to the minutes? Okay. Thank you, Sean. Appreciate it. Welcome.

Let me just get that down. Okay. Okay. So, what we were saying was um let's get a little group of us together. Um so, I've got Sean, Jim, Fred, myself, uh Sheila, and we will um circulate some information around 8002. um get kind of down to the nitty-gritty on it and uh see if there's anything that we do actually need to respond to or react to um in uh in the zoning uh commission's uh favor. So

So I have a question. I mean if we want to email each other, can we do that? Um we uh have to do the whole board together um rather than my understanding is that we have to do the whole board together or whole commission together rather than just uh because we're more than three uh or people. So we'll have to do the whole board together just as an information pass. So that would be at next the next meeting in January. Yes. Okay.

I just I I think a good way for anybody that's part of this would be to funnel information to Fred since he's or you Jen because you're co-chair and then you can decipher whether to send it out to the group. I don't just my opinion. Yeah, I think um Sean what um maybe Fred was alluding to is that um if we are facing a quorum if we email just four people rather than the entire group the what? No. No. What if we have some information to disseminate? Can we do that? Yes, 100%. Y

as long as we're not voting or um or discussing something. That's correct. Yeah. Yep. That's my understanding. Yes. All right. All right. So, I'll um I'll do what I have from the regional housing committee um from the uh uh Rivercog uh from L prestie and I'll disseminate that to uh everybody here. All right.

That's great. Thanks, Jen. Thank you everybody for that. Okay, cool. All right. So, um I don't want to um skip over new business, but um does Miss uh Rose Higgins, do you have any um uh things that you want? Oh, I'm sorry. Ross, I thought you said Rose. I'm sorry. Um would you like to um address the commission on anything? No, I just was wondering though, is there not a quorum? Is that why that the conversation was about that? They're on there. Got it. Okay. Oh, no. We have a thought. No, not at this time.

Okay. Awesome. All right. So, let's get on to our calendar. So, for the for the new year, the town hall um would like to um kind of get their um meeting room scheduled. So, we've been meeting this uh first Wednesday. Um would we like to maintain that schedule? 5:00 p.m. town hall mezzanine uh room for next year. And then of course we'll make acceptances for the um uh 4th of July and uh Memorial Day, those kind of things like as we did this year.

I think that it's fine with me. Okay. Okay. Well, like um let's just get a motion. So, could I have a motion to um set the meeting schedule for the first Wednesday of each month for 2026 calendar year in the town hall at the mezzanine room at 5:00 p.m.? I motion that we have it first Wednesday of every month at 5:00 in the mezzanine meeting room with exceptions for holidays or as exagent dictate. That's my motion.

Could I have a second, please? Jim, thank you. All in favor? I I

Any discussion? Great. Hearing none, the motion pass. So, I'll forward that back to um town hall. Thank you. So the the uh next thing on our agenda was really just to um go back to discuss um the budget um which is um a fluid uh motion but we we will have to have submit our budget to the finance committee of town hall um very soon uh for this coming up uh fiscal year which would be July um uh this year. Um, so far we've had um we're working off of last year's budget apparently. So we have not spent our FY 2425 budget yet. Um, so what I think we should do is submit um this a similar budget because we are going to be in need of the attorneys and uh the uh site developer and um and that kind of thing as we get the driveway for McCullik going and hopefully the driveways for Kimick and Grand View going as well and get those site plans laid out. So, our engineer Tom uh Metaf um has been working on those, but we have not yet received his uh his bills uh for that. So, um Fred, I don't know if you want to elaborate, but I think we should go ahead and submit the same um around a 14 to $15,000 um tab for the finance committee for FY26. Yeah, I would uh I'm anticipating some a little more legal fees because we're

going to have to draw up uh deeds and perhaps easements and uh so I I think we you know might need more legal. We didn't really have anything drawn up the year before and you know that there were significant legal bills. So I would probably increase our ask for by 25% on the legal fees and similarly the hopefully the same for the engineering fees because you know once the engineers get going they they uh will need to draw the you know provisional site plan and uh some site work on uh the Kimick and Grand View. So, you know, if we don't spend it, we don't spend it. But I think we should bump those up a little bit.

Yeah. Can I can I jump in here with something? So that's true.

Um I not having been involved with the budgeting process for the town in the past and and certainly not the budgeting process with um affordable housing. I know that there's been talk and it's on the agenda a little bit later to talk about a structure for, you know, how we're going to um you move things forward. And um at some point there was discussion with uh a couple of us possibly doing a co-chair model like you all have been doing. I I feel as though it if if I were to take one of those roles I I would like to take a and this is not to say that other people haven't taken a close look. I know that you have. I'm just a I learn by doing. And so before we submit anything, if if if it's anticipated that I that I might, you know, be in some type of a lead role, I defin I mean, I think for all of us, it's good for us to understand it, but um I would want to take a close look at like what have we got in the past three years? What have we spent the the is is Tom our engineer?

Yes. Yes. Okay. For for McCullik. And has he invoiced us anything? Well, it's it's kind of weird because u we've been told that we haven't spent anything, but I know that I have submitted significant bills for both the the surveyor, the engineer, and Mike Carrie that that I can't remember when, but maybe it was before June of last year. Okay. It was. Yeah. Yeah. I I think I think before we agree to Go ahead.

Oh, no. I'm sorry, Sheila. I didn't mean to overrun you. Um what what I um what what I meant to say was that I think that um that Fred and I can catch up with Anita um you know on on these things with Tom also um because uh we we have definitely paid his bills. uh we don't owe him anything as far as I know, but it's unusual that from July 1st of uh this year that we have not had another bill from him. So yeah, we're [snorts] just uh we'll need to work and everything that was happening. Yeah. So, I just I guess I would um just from from my own experiences around budgeting,

I I would just like to have a better understanding of the accounting for it like what we've what we've spent and I know that you know you all have been doing a lot like you've set everything up and the hope is now that things are going to start to move in this next year and so um while I hear you Fred on a you know like add 25% um I I don't know. I would just like to take a a different look at or or a closer look at what we anticipate spending, what we spent. Um I I would love to understand it if nothing else. That'd be great.

I I agree. I agree with Sheila. Um when when is it due to get them what we approve for a budget in our committee here? [snorts] Um so they would like to have it for their January meeting. Okay. So this can get prepared Monday. Yeah. [gasps] Yeah. Right after the meeting. Get prepared and we could vote on it next meeting. It will be January, but we do meet the first week of January, so I think it should be fine.

Thanks, Sean. Yep. Yeah, let's let's do that. Um so the other thing that the commission should be aware of is that we do have um ARPA funds still that we need to u we don't need to spend but um we have the opportunity to use ARPA funds um by the uh by September of 2026 and so um we were um committing that to the driveways um to the extension of the driveway at the mold properties and and the widening of that are sitting Jen. Yeah, you just reminded so you talking about ARPA money.

I'm going to put money on that the bills it's showing that we didn't spend any money on the town budget because if you don't use the ARPA money, you lose it. So any smart town's going to put all the bills to the ARPA money first. That might be where the bill went.

Ah. Uhhuh. Okay. Okay. That's a good point, Sean. Thank you. Yeah. Uh let me check with Anita now. Um what I don't want is like everybody running to Anita and town hall. So uh Fred Fred and I will handle that ourselves and just so we have a single point of contact with um Anita and finance. Um um and we'll get that straightened out by the next meeting. And we we did receive uh uh an email from Anita, the financial person with I think what we spent for the last three years and share that. Could you guys share that with us?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. So we we have that and I'll share that.

It wasn't a lot. Okay. So, we'll um we'll get that straightened out. And Sheila, thank you for those observations. Uh we'll definitely Sure. stay up on that. All right. Anything else on the budget? [snorts] Okay. Hearing none, we'll go on. Um anything um with uh new news um Fred on the project from Tom or Dick? So, the fire chief has said, "I have no problem with your plan." And uh we've asked him for a letter, but he's uh wait I think he's waiting for a site plan from Tom the Engineer. And so, uh, did you have an opportunity to check with Tom to see when he's planning to have that, uh, you know?

Yeah. I have no response. No response. Yeah. Is that Mike McCarthy, right? Well, from Tom Medcaf. Do Do you know when he's planning? Oh, from Tom? Yeah. No, no idea. Okay. Where's his office? Where is he located? Deep River, I think. Yeah. Uhuh. Essex. Yeah. Deep River or Essex. Okay.

I mean, I'm happy to take a drive over. Like, we got to get this thing go because don't don't we have to, if my understanding is is accurate, we have to we have to have that letter in order to get on the agenda for planning or zoning.

No. But so, no, we don't. No. So, we want to have a complete uh subdivision application and the only real issue is uh the drive question, but you you certainly need a proposed site plan so that the planning commission can look at it and say, "Okay, I see what you're talking about." And that site plan will include, you know, the borders of the the the deeds, the borders of an easement, borders of the driveway, the proposed housing location, well and septic. With all that, I I think they'll have no problem saying, "This looks good. We approve, but uh we need some basic things." And the one of the basic things is for the fire chief to say uh what you propose is fine with respect to emergency vehicles. If we don't have that there there's a very significant risk that they'll say well this application is incomplete. Wait another month.

Oh my god. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And it's not it's not she as drastic as a oh my god scenario [laughter] but um but well it just it feels like I know when I but yes it is it's dragging it's dragging. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't mean to overreact. I apologize for that. And again this is no you know no disrespect on anyone. I know everybody's I think I'm just I'm I think I'm just in kind of I'm I'm in a mode right now and I'm kind of like well can I call him? Do you want me to reach out? Can we get this guy moving? [laughter] Like, let's go, dude. Like, July 1st, we haven't heard from you. Come on. Maybe I'm with you.

No, no, no, you're not. I'm with you. Yeah, [laughter] I don't I would want anybody to take away that it's like a drastic mode, but but yes. Um, however, we would like to get a firm uh response in writing and we would like to get it before the zoning board as soon as possible um to get this uh sub uh application done and uh and over with um just the next step um in this and hopefully it will be done by February. Thank you.

Just so all you know that there's that the uh we need to get this application all tied up and submitted by January 8th. That's the uh that's the date. Okay. So So Fred, do you want me to um give Tom a call tomorrow again and um then see if I can move him along? Yeah. And and you know if it would be helpful uh meet with them, you meet with them. I meet with them just, you know, it's it's silly this uh lack of response we're getting. So, yeah, I'm I'm around and uh I'm happy to meet with them anytime, anywhere.

All right. Well, let me give them a call in the morning and then um and then I will touch base with you in the later half of the morning and uh let you know what I find out. Beautiful. And if we need to team up, we'll do that. And thank you Sheila for your help. We might tag team you in on this. All right. So cool. So um so that's that.

Okay, we'll do um so that that um anything on um Kimick and Graham View? Anything else there that we need to get done? Same with uh Dick and Tom. Or are we just going to roll on with them? I'm assuming unless he says, "I can't do it. I'm sick. I'm too slow. I don't want to do it. You're annoying me too much." Just, you know, if he says that, then we have to find somebody else. But I I see no indication that he would. But

no, no. But uh I will um actually I'll bring that up with him tomorrow and see if we can just stay on point with that tomorrow and um and get a firm answer one way or the other from him. Thank you. Okay, cool. All right, so um so that's all the old business. Uh anybody else have any new business they would like to discuss? So, uh, hearing none, uh, you know, I would like to talk about, uh, next year's leadership. Okay, let's go.

So, Jen, your your your term is up when? Uh, January 31st. And so, are you going to be around for the next meeting? I will be. somewhere. [laughter] I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I may be on the phone. Yeah, maybe on the phone. Yeah, honestly. So, I think tomorrow this next year is going to be a big year. I would appreciate as much help as I can possibly get. I Yes.

am uh I'm willing to stay on as a co-chair. I would like someone to co-chair with me. And if there are, you know, two folk that are motivated and and enthusiastic about being co-chairs, I would support that. You know, I would like to stay on and sort of push the construction stuff through, but I'm willing to uh, you know, I'm not going to bail. Um,

well, so I think because we talked a little bit last time and Sheila and I, you know, are willing to to co-chair, but Fred, we don't neither of us, well, I'm speaking for Sheila, but I'm sure she'll be neither of us want to kick you off of co-chair. So, if you want to be co-chair still, that's that's fine. There there's nothing you like doing with being co-chair. If you guys I mean I think you guys are motivated and organized and enthusiastic. If you guys want to co-chair I would really support that. Okay. So I did apply to yesterday maybe it was to

great to be a regular member once Jen comes off. So that plan would work if the selectman's office agrees to make that happen. Um okay. But I don't think really anything can happen until Jen officially comes off cuz until So it really probably would look more like February. Okay. And somebody else comes off Jen too, right?

Um yeah. So so right now um so myself um just because I'm moving to North Carolina, it's not because I'm abandoning you, but because I will still be like uh calling into the commission, etc. because I'm very vested in of course Habitat for Humanity's efforts to help us with this property. Um so I'm not abandoning you, but I I don't feel like I could be a member of the commission if I'm actually living in North Carolina. So So having said that, um I will still call in, but um myself [clears throat] um uh Amy um I'm not sure about your intentions. And then uh I know Lori Walker is moving on to Lysb board. So she is as an alternate is al also going to be um resigning. So there are several uh several opportunities available for people. Uh if you have friends and family that want to uh sign up, we can still use all the all the uh people that you know are available.

So there are plenty of opportunities. But yes, uh Sean, I will be um uh my last meeting will be officially will be uh the January meeting. So Sheila, I'm curious. Are you willing to do you take [laughter] this man as your co-chair person?

I think I think that um there's so many things I could say to that right now, Fred. [laughter] so many reasons that that that works beautifully for both of us probably because you know and I don't want to speak for you Sean but um man no one's ever asked me if I was going to take that man anyway um not since I was like 16 sorry Sophia um so yes I absolutely I would love to get to know Shawn and love to work with Shawn I also know that there are some people Jim Amy other people on the committee that You know, again, not to speak for Sean, but you know, we're we're kind of the newer ones in the group. And so, um, I'm happy. I feel like it's I feel like I'm yelling. I'm sorry, everybody. Um, it feels to me like this is as we get moving and correct me if I'm wrong, but as we get moving into this next year and and the different things that we have to kind of break apart and really dive into, it feels to me like there are areas in which we could identify where like you know Fred you just mentioned like moving the construction along. So maybe that's your wheelhouse. I I I feel like you know whether it is doing so as a co-chair or if we determine these are the things that need to happen and so who's good at these things and we divide and conquer like Jim volunteered himself for digging into the

you know the bill because he's it's it's his wheelhouse. So you know I volunteered to drive to Deep River. I I I have no problem bugging somebody. I you know I try to do it nicely but [snorts] um you know so I if I guess it's a lot of words to say yes I will take Sean as my co-chair if everybody else is okay with that and once Shawn becomes official I do solemnly swear to do best that I can. It's just that we're going to have to all really divide and conquer. Okay, I'm done talking. Yes, we agree.

Adorable. Who else want to be a co-chair? Okay. Co- co-chairs. I think I think two was enough. So, well, no, I think we wanted to make sure that the others on the call had a chance to speak. Yeah. Oh, Lori. And I think the interest that Sorry.

Yeah. Lori, uh, Amy, uh, any Jimmy, any thoughts? I think the interest that we're seeing from from some somewhat new folks is fantastic. Um, so if new new people want to get involved, then I think that's great. Uh but yeah, I think three chairs would for a for a commission that has no regulatory ability would be outrageous. Yes. Thank you, Jimmy. I think we should just all be chairs. And I want to know why Sean doesn't have to take me as his lawfully wedded co-chair. [laughter] I believe he's married.

The one who proposed. [laughter] That's all right. Okay. All right. So let's um let let me uh see if I can summarize here. So, um, so what we're [laughter] saying is that, um, so Fred, so going forward after the January meeting, uh, where I will be off of the commission, um, what we're saying is that, um, you will stay and, uh, Sheila and Sean will, uh, will be then elected as co-chairs. Do that till February, correct?

That's my understanding as well. Okay. All right. Does anybody have any uh discussion around that? Anybody else wants to comment on that or anything to do with this? Well, it's really timing. I mean, Jen, you're still going to be co-chair until January 31st and then in February at our first meeting is when we would vote. That's correct. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Well, we'll have to vote on it in January so that we can give the board of selectmen the uh the uh opportunity to weigh in if you will. But I don't know how we vote on it if I'm not a regular member yet.

Yeah, let me talk to Martha about that. You're going to make a great I'll see if I can stuff. Yeah, I'll see if I can get some clarity around that. I I appreciate that. Yeah, it's all very uh silly, but uh but we need to do it right. So, let's do it right. And uh I'll call Martha about that tomorrow. Then, are you going to be around tomorrow? I am uh around in North Carolina tomorrow. Yes. Oh, are you're not here now? No.

Oh, all right. So, no. But I could make myself available though if you need. I don't expect you to fly back just to Okay. 15 minutes. All right.

I'm driving. That's all right. Um, so the um Okay. So, that's uh that'll be taken care of. Uh I will speak with Martha uh hopefully uh tomorrow. I'll get on her calendar anyways and uh do that. Uh so, oh, let's see. Any other um new business that folks want to bring up? Okay. All right. Hearing none, uh we'll go back to um Fred. Any other business that you would like to discuss? No.

Okay. Well, I'll submit the calendar to town hall tomorrow. Um, and um, we'll outside of the usual holidays, we'll have the first Wednesday of each month at 5:00 p.m. in the mezzanine uh, meeting room reserved. And um, going forward there should be no problems with that. Uh, any other business that any other member would like to bring up? Okay, hearing none, I call for the meeting to be adjourned. Do I have a motion to move? That's Fred Fred and one second.

Second Sheila. Thank you, Sheila. Okay.