Historic Preservation Board - Regular Meeting

I'd like

to call this meeting to order. April 2, we starting at 05:05. We missed the dreaded April 1, so we're in good shape. Let's call the roll.

John Miller? Here. Ezra Craig? Peter

Dwyer?

Here.

Chris Kovaczat is absent. Vlad Dumitrescu, absent. Carol Perez? Here. Jim Chard? Here.

Okay. Would somebody kindly make a motion to approve the agenda?

Any changes? No. So moved.

I'll second.

Okay.

All favor? Aye. Aye. Opposed?

No. Okay. And apparently, we have no minutes. Here's Vlad. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. We have no minutes from previous meetings, so we'll skip over that one. Our next step is to swear in the public. If anybody has an intention to speak on items on the agenda today, kindly hold up the right hand and take the oath.

Please raise your right hand by the authority vested me the notary of the state of Florida. Do you swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the

truth? This

is the time that the public can make comments on items that are not on the agenda. They may be here for other issues. I don't see anybody rising to speak. So I'm going to say that there's no one here to speak on other items. Any presentations, Michelle?

No. We've changed the order of the agenda a bit and the presentations are at the end for the historic preservation board awards so that we could handle the quasi items first. Gotcha.

Is that a one time change or?

Yeah.

Okay, okay. Good. So I guess we're ready to move on to the quasi judicial items. Could you enter into the record COA 2025Dash142?

Yes, staff enters 2025Dash142 into the record certificate appropriateness for 125 South Swinton Avenue.

I've got both of you helping me. Any conversations with the applicants?

No. None. None. None.

If you wanna go ahead and read the rules as well Okay. Before we get started. Okay. Thank you.

I'll open

your presentation.

Okay. And you can advance using

This hearing shall be conducted in accordance with the city of Delray Beach. Just a quasi judicial rules. The applicant in the city shall be permitted to present their case. The public shall be allowed to speak for three minutes each or a maximum of six minutes if the person represents an organization or a group who are present but agree not to speak. The city commission, our board, staff, and the applicant may be allowed to cross examine a witness.

The city or the applicant may be allowed to offer rebuttal testimony. The decision to approve or deny an application or appeal may not legally be made upon personal views as to whether the project is a good project or not. Nor may a decision be based on the numbers of citizens who support or oppose a particular project. The law requires that all decisions must be made on the basis of whether the project meets the requirements of law, the comprehensive plan, and the land development regulations.

Okay. The applicant, John William Boyle, is here, the owner of 125 South Swinton Avenue, and will make a presentation. Go ahead.

Yeah. Hi. I'm John Boyle. I own 125 South Swinton. Maybe I'm too close to this mic. The house needs a new roof. Currently, it's a a green color. We'd like to switch it. New metal roof, but a white color. Just for aesthetics. I I never liked the green. I I don't think it fits the neighborhood. Oh, should I push both different buttons? Okay. Hold on.

Okay. That's the house just to the left side. That's the house to the right side. These are four photos of my house. As you could see, the right side, the center, left side, and the center.

This green roof is it's it's rusting in the front, it really needs replacing. That's a computer generated image from the Dynamic Metals, which is the company out of Stuart that manufactures the roof material. And it's not perfect color, but it's similar to what my house looks like and what it will look like with the white roof. That's really about it. It's not a big presentation. Are there any questions?

We need to wait for staff presentation and then we'll have a I'm sorry? We need to wait for the staff presentation.

Oh, okay.

So you could sit down.

Okay.

And then there may be questions. We'll see. Okay. Great. Thank you.

Just give us a moment. I forgot I need to queue up the other presentation. And for the record, this is Nicole Brink. She is a new planner in training on our team. Working with the historic team for the next couple of months and then she'll transition and work over with our long range planning team. So this is her first time presenting before board and I turn it to Nicole.

Welcome.

Thank you. So the item before the board is a certificate of appropriateness request for a 125 South Swinton Avenue, which is located in the Old School Square Historic District for the replacement of the existing green standing seam metal roof with a new white standing seam metal roof. So the subject property contains a nineteen twenty one contributing one story frame, vernacular style structure, and is a detached it has a detached garage in the rear. The structure's original roof was a asphalt shingle and had been maintained until 1997 when the roofing material was changed to a green standing seam metal roof. On July 2008, HPB approved exterior alterations for the main structure, which included window replacements, alteration of the front porch, and replacement of the rear sliding glass doors and the replacement of the front door to French doors.

In 2015, a building permit was issued for a deck a dish a deck addition in the rear of the property. And in 2020, a building permit was issued for an addition of a swimming pool in the rear of the property. This

oh, I

think it went too far ahead. I went ahead one.

Okay. So they

can see it. You can go back

one if

you want.

Yeah. Yeah. This is an aerial view of the subject property, which is located on the East Side of South Swinton Avenue between Southeast 1st Street and Southeast 2nd Street. This this, we have the images for or the existing front elevation facing South Swin Avenue. And here is the north elevation of the house, and here is the south elevation of the house.

And here is the rear rear elevation of the house, and finally, the rear detached garage. I've included a survey of the property for informational purposes. And this is the proposed white color of the standing seam metal roof.

As you can see.

And then regarding standard one of the Secretary of Interior Standards of for Rehabilitation. The use of the property will remain a resident a residence as it was traditionally used. Therefore, the property will be used as the original historic purpose meeting the intent of the standard. Regarding standards two and nine, the structure originally had an asphalt shingle shingle roof, and it was approved for replacement with the green standing seam metal roof in 1997. I have included screenshots from the standard and guidelines, which note that the replacement of a of an original material with a compatible material is the recommended approach for a historic structure.

Also, the Delray Beach historic preservation Design guidelines provide guidelines for roofing. With respect to the relationship of materials, texture, color, visual compatibility standard, the relationship of materials shall be compatible with the predominant materials used within the historic district. While there has been much debate over the use of the use of the metal roofing within the Dare Beach's five historic districts. It is a material that has been documented as being utilized on a case by case basis, particularly on wood frame structures. I have highlighted the sections.

I have highlighted section staff analyzed in relations to the request. Staff concerns relates to the use of the metal roof that is not a mill finish. Mill finish means that the material in its original metal finish or silver in appearance, such finish is what would have been available for use originally where painted metal roofs are a modern material finish. The board will need to make a decision that the white standing seam metal roof is an appropriate roofing material for the use on the subject frame vernacular style structure, ensuring compatibility for the structure and the overall use and the overall historic historical district. Finally, these are my findings that the board must utilize in making such a determination.

You for. Thank you so much and that concludes my presentation.

Thank you. At this point. This is the for public comment on this item. There's been anybody in the audience that wants to speak on this item. They should make their way to the microphone. Having said that. There is no ice or any. Rebuttal from the applicant to the staff presentation.

Not quite sure what I'm supposed to have a rebuttal for. It seemed like a correct presentation. They had their facts right and they did a good job helping me along the way. Catharina, both both Michelle's and Nicole, very helpful. Okay.

Thanks. Ken.

We have no revival.

No revival. Okay. Let's take it to the board. Want to be first?

I got a quick question. So it looks like from the overhead, and it's kinda fuzzy, the back part of this is almost a flat roof or a very low pitch. Is that included with the standing seam as well or is that

more of a gravel top? No. The back I'm not changing. The flat part will stay the same. It won't be metal.

And what is the

I think it's rolled asphalt. It's Oh, it is asphalt. Hard.

Yeah. Like almost a gravel look. Yes. Okay.

And there is another peaked area that does come towards the back. That will be metal. You could see it on the top. Mhmm.

So just the pitched, the higher pitched

areas are

gonna Yes. Be And with the little garage, both of those pitches will be changed also.

And did you consider a a mill finish?

I I looked and looked and Michelle explained the history of mill finishes to me but it doesn't really excite me mainly because the front of that house, half of the front is a roof view. It's not like just a roof you don't see but you look at it and it's just I'd say more than half of the front view is the roof. And I I never really liked the the mill finish myself.

Okay. Alright. Just I had to ask. It'll it'll turn grayish over time anyway unless you keep it clean.

No.

No. I'll clean it. I'll just keep it clean. Karen? Oh, I'm sorry. Thought you were

No. Was just gonna say overall, yeah, probably originally had a a cedar shake or some type of shake roof on there before and then it turned into asphalt and, you know, and then it turned into standing seam, which, you know, I'm okay. Actually, I'm fine with going with the white, but that's my opinion. Carol?

I'm fine with it.

Thanks. Question. How did why did you pick the green in

the first one?

The green was done by a prior owner.

By the prior owner. Okay. And now in terms of the imagery, I'm not sure if that's your question to answer. The doesn't look green here. Maybe it's just the angle where I am. I mean, this one looks more like mill finish, but it's green. Correct?

Green. You go

It's like, is it me or it's just my eyes or

the angle?

Look at glare of the sun. In this picture, you can see

because the photos look really green.

Yeah. And this in real life, you can

see here it looks more green than Probably pretty oxidized too.

Well, I mean,

personally, I'm not too crazy about the white because it's it's unusual for that sort of environment even. I mean, I can't be against it, but I don't I just say that I don't think the green or the or the male or a kind of gray kinder would have been, in my opinion, more appropriate than the white. White, I've seen examples. Just driving now, I have seen something done. And to be honest with you, I don't think it looks very very rich, you know, at the end.

But that's your it's it's very subjective. Got this. I cannot say not to I will not allow you to use white. Keep going. Would think maybe you can, I don't know, ask another opinion or something? I think it's I think it's really not the best you can do from a in in a historic neighborhood. You know?

There there is another house.

Sorry, sir. Well, I appreciate it. Unless he unless he directs a question to you, it's just in the board discussion.

I don't have

a question.

I understand that you you prefer the white. Did they made you aware that is it gonna fade? Is it gonna change in color? You might be not as pleased with that. It's not quite it's not really a per se natural finish. You know?

The roofers said it's going to stay looking the same.

With the sun in Florida,

I'm not sure.

But it's fine. I mean, it's your choice. I I'm not I'm not gonna oppose it. I

don't have any comments except to say it's a very straightforward request and I support it.

Thank you.

I have one question and that is you said in your comments, sir, that it fit in better with the neighborhood if it were white rather than green.

Could you? I believe so. The neighborhood, there's a house 300 Block, beautiful, has a beautiful white roof. I think it's 345. I was gonna add it to the presentation, but my roofer said it's outside the historic district and we shouldn't even add it. But that's a beautiful white roof. That's good. And there's others I've seen driving through Delray. But that whole block is changing with the Sunday village, and there's a lot of bright, clean, white buildings. And this the yellow with the the really dull green is a a depressing look, in my opinion.

It doesn't fit in with the new clean, sharp yeah. I wanna look at my house and smile, not look at it and grimace. It really is not a to me, it it it's it's ugly. Okay. I don't know how else to say it.

Plus paying plus paying for it.

Know? Yeah. Of course. Yeah. It sure does.

Yeah. Okay. Can I have a motion?

Sure. Mister chair, I'd like to move approval of the certificate of appropriateness 2025Dash142 for the property located at 125 South Swinton Avenue located within the Old School Square historic district. My findings the request and approval thereof is consistent with the comprehensive plan and meets the criteria set forth in the land development regulations.

Second? I have to speak I'll second. Okay.

Carol. Alright.

Diane, call the roll.

John Miller.

Yes.

Ezra Craig is absent. Peter Dwyer?

Yes.

Chris Kobes is absent. Vlad Dumitrescu? Yes. Carol Perez? Yes. Jim Chart?

Yes.

Thank you very much.

Oh, thank you very much. And thank you, Michelle and Nicole.

You're welcome. Let me see.

We like those compliments. That's nice. Alright. We now go to

Yep. Item seven b. Great. I'd like to enter file 2025Dash049 into the record. This is for 200 Northeast 5th Court. And the applicant and owner and his architect, I believe, are here and will make a presentation. If they could please come to the podium now.

Any discussions with the applicants? Carol?

None. Or anyone.

None. None.

None.

In the vein of transparency, my name is Mark Conley. I'm the managing partner at Charrette International Architecture and an agent for the owner, TJ Conley, who's here in the back. I would like to declare a slight conversation with an absent board member, Chris Cabasis. He and I worked together consistently on a professional basis about two weeks ago. He simply asked if I was coming before the board anytime soon, and I told him yes. That's about the extent of it, and he's not here to vote. So Okay. So this is the Connolly residence at 200 Northeast 5th Court. I've included a location map just for reference as far as where it's at. It is on a corner lot.

Current photos of the property, single family residence with a gable roof. It currently has a shingle roof, which is one of the reasons that we're here. And some photos of the subject property. Very well maintained. There's some hedges up front. There's currently a uncovered patio on the west side, which is the picture you see there on the left. That's primarily where most of the work is actually gonna be done on the exterior of the project. The scope. So we're doing a new covered patio on the west side of the the property that's currently uncovered. It's going to be covered.

The standing seam metal roof will be installed in place of the shingles. It's actually brings it into a more cohesive look in the neighborhood because I believe that both as I said, it's a corner property, so it's got a neighbor to the east and a neighbor to the south on the same block. Those both have metal roofs. The neighbor across the street to the north and across the street to the west also have metal roofs. So this is actually bringing it more into a cohesive this is just about the only prod project with a shingle roof.

New front door. We're going ahead and doing new exterior windows and doors as needed in order to be able to accomplish the, the renovation that's going on. Just a new family room, bath two, and office as part of the interior layout, including a laundry room and utility room, renovation of the kitchen inside, interior closets, partial interior reconfiguration. So really as far as the site plan goes, you've got the existing site on the left and the proposed site on the right. The predominant portion of the site work that's gonna be occurring is is that yellow rectangle.

That's where we're doing a covered patio as opposed to a uncovered. Inside, we are taking the existing plan on the top portion of the page and turning it into the the proposed plan on the bottom. Basically, there's going to be an office added down at the towards the front door area. The current master suite, which is actually to the right of this piece of paper, so the west side of the project. That master suite is being reconfigured into a family room, laundry, and bathroom down in that area.

And the kitchen is getting greatly reconfigured in order to open things up quite a bit in order to be able to look out and see things out onto the covered patio. And then we're adding the covered patio on the west side of the project, which is the right side of this piece of paper. There's the existing roof plan and the new roof plan. You can see we're tying in cohesively with the same pitch cable as an extension with a covered patio. And you can see on the elevations, the front or north elevation existing on top proposed just down below.

You can see we're basically reconfiguring reconfiguring the windows in order to accomplish the interior modifications, adding the patio on the side with the same gable roof, and then putting them with standing seam metal. And you can really see that we're tying in with the existing gable on the west elevations, which is at the bottom. The top shows the existing and the bottom shows the proposed, again, tying in to the existing pitch, existing gable. Same thing on the south. And on the east, on the bottom, you won't actually see anything because there's not really any work occurring there as far as exterior massing goes.

Renderings of the project show the addition of the patio there. And on the top, it shows it to the right hand side. On the bottom, it shows it towards the left hand side extension of the roof. Some of the colors that are being used, the house body color is gonna stay the kind of pure Sherwin Williams seven zero zero five pure white that it is, and the roof is going to go with the the champagne finish, which also ties in with the body color and ties in with some of the neighboring projects. And that's about it as far as our presentation goes. I look forward to staff's report and questions from the board. Thank you.

For the record, I'm Catherine Palavoda, senior historic preservation planner. This is a COA on file number 2025Dash049. It's a certificate of appropriateness for the property located at 200 Northeast 5th Court. So here you can see an aerial. The location is at the intersection of Northeast 5th Court and Northeast 2nd Avenue.

This property consists of Lot 1, Block 8 Of Delaeda Park. The property is located within the locally designated Delaeda Park Historic District. It contains a non contributing one story structure that was constructed in 1952. Along with this request, there is a roof material material change along with some additional modifications which include the replacement of windows and doors and a rear porch in the on the west on the west rear side of the side side of the property. We wanted to note in the staff report that the window modifications meet the appropriateness for the aluminum white aluminum metal with clear glass.

The the report is also a smaller I think it's 10%, which allows it to be administratively approved. So specifically, the request before the board tonight is going to be for the roof change. Okay. Here we can see the north elevation as it exists today. This is the west side, the south. And here we have a survey. You can see the existing structure. Also to match the existing site plan. Okay. This is a proposed site plan with the 200.

The patio addition is two sixty six square foot. So it was less than 10% of the existing structure. So essentially, according to our matrix, that can be administratively approved by staff. Here we can see the existing floor plan versus the proposed floor plan. We can see the addition, the open air addition in the rear. I'm sorry. It's the side. It's the side west. This is the existing front elevation, and then you can see where the addition is. And then we also see where the blue is on the top, these existing windows that are being modified on on the north elevation.

This is the existing west side. So there you can see there's some modifications to windows and doors to accommodate the open air porch. And then we see the the roofline and the the newly constructed porch. K. This is the proposed rear. There are no modifications to the windows. A door is being added, and then you can see the the material change on the roof. Proposed east side, the only changes to the windows is the replacement to the impact windows. And then there you can see the change in the roof being proposed. Okay.

As the applicant did note, color is not changing on the existing structure. The open air porch will have the exact same color as the exterior of the existing non contributing structure. And then the roof will be it's standing seam metal but in the champagne color. K. Here's some renderings. This is the Northwest side, southwest. Okay. These are excerpts from the Secretary of Interior Standards that is shown in the report. We did note that this is a non contributing structure. With regards to the material, there's no concerns.

But we did need the board to make a determination whether or not the champagne color would be appropriate for visual compatibility within the along with the masonry structure as well as the historic district. Okay. These are the secretary of the interior standards that apply. And then these are the visual comp visual compatibility standards. That goes to, specifically roof shapes, relationship of materials, textures, color, and the proportion of openings for the windows and doors. K. These are the certificate of appropriate findings, and that concludes my presentation.

Thank you very much. Is there anyone in the audience who would like to speak on this presentation? Seeing none, let's take it to the board. Carol, do you wanna lead off? Rebuttal. Any rebuttal by the applicant to staff?

No, thank you.

Staff to applicant?

None from staff, thank you.

See, I knew that. Mind reader.

Just it looked like the renderings had a gray roof. And here we're I think we're here to talk about the roof and it you're going to a champagne color?

Yes. So a champagne color. It does look like I'm just getting the champagne adjusted in that one after the color had been decided. You are correct.

So it's a metal roof?

It is a it will be a metal standing seam metal roof with the champagne color will be the final determination. Yes.

And that it's a that seems like the champagne color is really light or very light color, almost towards the white. Or Mhmm. I I really don't have an issue with the with that color.

It's such a slight Yeah. Pitch on that roof. You're never gonna see

it It's very similar.

Unless you're looking at it from above.

Okay. I have a question for the planner. I understand that this was approved administratively, the addition. It's just that you I'm not sure if you consider the the standard nine on both. It doesn't matter. I mean, it's not really us to say that now, but it's just usually, you create, like, a certain change between the new and the

old. Mhmm.

And they they did that in one side but not on the other one. It would have been very easily to create that in

both sides. So typically for regular contributing structures, the standards would apply and we would usually apply standard nine and whether or not there's any slight differences. This particular structure, however, is not contributing. So we're looking at the standards that like standard one, it notes that this structure was historically a single family structure. So it's something we apply. But when it comes to actually applying specifically distinctions and things like that because it's non contributing, it doesn't technically really apply for this one. If they want to do that it's nice but this structure is not considered historic.

Can I just make a point that maybe And they consider

according to our surveys, it's so far departed from the original structure? It won't be contributing in the future.

Yes, that's important.

That's what I was gonna ask because we've had a survey obviously over the last twenty five years. So what I don't want to dwell on it too much but what changed with this one because it seems it's a pretty modest structure right now. So it's departed that much from the original?

Just the openings? I assume I have to look at the surveys but I guess Michelle's reviewed it a little bit better, but I've I've assumed it's the openings that have made the difference. Fifty years from now, we're not gonna make the footprints.

Contributing though.

Well, no. I was just talking about the porch

at least. Yeah.

The the the covered porch or

or or

because it is it is they had easily, they could move it in both sides. So it's not a line actually in

the view of the porch.

I mean, they did it in one side.

Yeah. They jogged the they jogged the roof down, so it's differentiated.

Only. On the other side, I'm talking about

both sides.

Well, there's not a lot of room, I

don't think, on that other side. I'm talking about four inches.

So what is proposed? Let's assume this was a contributor. Let's talk through that and if this were coming in and before the board is a contributor and we were applying all of the applicable standards. There are some that apply for new construction within historic districts as Catherine has said. But if this were a contributor and they were coming in with this porch, we wouldn't have any conflict in our analysis that there's a conflict with the code because there is a differentiation.

They're not following the exact roofline. They've stepped it down. And the porch is more of a utilitarian use. It's something that could be removed in the future without affecting the main structure. So being that it's a non contributor, that is not anticipated to become a contributor in the future, even if it were fifty years from now, think it would continually not qualify. Okay.

And that's because? Because there have

been alterations to the structure from what it originally The last survey has not been adopted, but the work was done in 2020 identified this was not going to be reclassified as contributing. But in either scenario, I think you've got an addition here that's a porch, a covered porch and there is some differentiation that's almost more something that the trained eye would pick up even though it's less subtle with the step the way it is. So we haven't identified anything in the design of the proposal that would raise concern. But we do understand

That would be very easy. Yes, there's nothing nothing that will ruin at all or anything.

Yes, sir.

As long as they slightly lower the roof and move it in construction even. You would have a similar situation both sides instead of one side only for the roof.

Sure and you're looking at it from an architectural standpoint as we do too. But our standards are the historic preservation requirements which are a mix of architecture analysis too. But sure we understand what It she

was just a recommendation.

It's a great comment. Thank you.

My question was, was it intentional to do that or is Vlad's recommendation something that you would consider?

Well, the from what I'm understanding, you're looking at the way that the roof steps down slightly on the north side but

not on the

south side then?

On the

other side. So there's a couple driving forces behind that. The fact that it steps slightly on the north side helps us avoid any kind of request for variances due to setbacks and things like that because actually, currently, the portion that sticks out further to the north there is encroaching.

I see what

you're saying. And so part of it is avoiding that. The fact that it ties into the roof on the south side, we didn't consider that to be a significant significant hurdle simply because of landscaping and other structures that are there. If you look at the pictures of the existing project from the south side, it's almost impossible to even get a picture from over there. So that that portion of the structure will probably actually never be seen.

Right. It it essentially not the rendering side, but if you actually look at the existing existing house photos, you can see to get that photo, it's actually a picture that's there you go. Yeah. And that it's that picture that's taken down the side that you you literally can't get far enough away from it to be able to take the picture. So those were the main reasons that it wasn't considered to be a critical area and one of the reasons that it was stepped down in order to avoid any kind of variance requests.

I mean, yeah, I'm I'm in I'm in favor of it. I'll support it. The only thing that surprised me that there was no backdoor on this house

that Actually, there was. That's my mistake. Oh, there was? Yes. Alright. The door is not changing. Okay. It's being improved, but the door is there. You can actually see on that upper elevation that there is a stoop in place there already. Alright.

Alright. My fault. No worries. I I just

found it little bit

surprising. Okay.

I've been married for twenty three years. I'm trained to admit when I'm wrong.

Peter? I don't have any comments.

Okay. And all my comments have already been raised, so I have none. I hope to

say the motion.

I'd like

to approve the certificate of appropriateness twenty twenty five zero four nine for the property located at 200 Northeast 5th Court, Del Ida Park Historic District by finding that the request and approval thereof is consistent with the comprehensive plan and meets the criteria set forth in the land development regulations.

Second. Call the roll.

John Miller.

Yes.

Ezra Craig is absent. Peter Dwyer. Yes. Chris Kopecz is absent. Vlad Dumitrescu. Yes. Carol Perez. Yes. Jim Chartered?

Yes. Great. I'd like to thank the board very much. Thanks staff as well. It was good seeing you all again. See you on the next one.

For the record, my name is Michelle Hewitt, planner, and I'm reading agenda item seven c for 146 Southeast 7th Avenue COA 2025 Dash 056 into the record. We have the architect here to present on behalf of the property owners.

Mister chair, Dave, we need to be sworn

in. I

assume we do.

Please raise your hand by the authority vested in the notary of the state of Florida. Do swear your firm testimony you're about to give is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

Yeah. K.

Any ex parte conversations?

Yes. I'm gonna step down from the job because I am a landscape architect. Excuse

myself. None.

None. None.

Waiting a brief moment. Thank you. Good thing

you showed

up, Vlad. I know. It's just

like I didn't have a

quorum on this one. Yeah. It's tight. Go ahead.

You want me to go?

Yes, please.

Go ahead.

Thanks. So good afternoon, chairman and board members. My name is Christian Mendoza and I'm here representing GE Architecture. Our address, it's 1045 East Atlantic Dome Ave, Delray Beach. With me tonight here, it's also Jake and Gary Eliopoulos and our clients if you guys have any questions for them.

We want to thank you first and foremost for allowing us to present tonight, which we feel this is a great addition to our historic, Marina District. For those who may not be familiar with the site, we are located in the Northwest Corner Of 2nd Ave and the Southeast I mean, I'm sorry, 2nd Street and Southeast 7th Ave. Like so many, site in the district, this one, it's a very, challenging one because of the unique surroundings. Right? And the fact that this intersection, it's actually like one of the gateways, entrances to the district.

Here, I'm showing you some of our zonings, which, again, for the most part, we have CBD zoning r one eight eight, zoning r m, and CF where where we have the church. Unfortunately, we cannot select who buys and or what they build in the district. But if we could, I believe that that this is what we should want to see. Although our clients could have been looking at building a multi story of two unit structured, they are embracing the district with a single family residence, which mostly be a one story, which again, we dropped our zoning from a r m to a r one a. And this is all due to our clients respecting every single aspect when it comes to the density and when it comes to the historic Marina District.

Here, we have a picture of the existing vacant lot, which, again, it has been vacant since 1991. And for many years for many years has been used as a parking lot for the church and Sunday mass. As we stated earlier, the property could have been considered a multifamily structured or like this design, the previous owner was planning on bringing in front of you guys. Basically, a two story structure, which is taking the whole site. Here we have the elevations, and I believe that back then we used to reference to this building as a sugar cube or as a white box.

We are not suggesting that this would have been approved by the Submittal. Has been approved by the Submittal package, but it was completed prior to our client purchasing the property. Here, it's one of the area views, and right away, we can see one of our challenges, which is a five story building with a pool deck. I can assure you that whoever gets out there, first the thing that they'll do is look straight at the sea, straight at the ocean, and we are right below there. The other two arrows are pointing to the things that we are also looking at, which the first one will be the firestone garage doors and the church.

Here, it's a quick drone footage which demonstrate the majority of the properties along the West Side Of 7th Ave, which for the most part, they are actually multi family structures. On the few first slides, I'll be showing showing you some of the adjacent prop properties. And one of the things that I wanna point out whenever you look to our to our elevations, it'll be that we are a tiny bit higher than the rest, which the surroundings of our properties are a few feet lower than us. And all of that, it's not due to our clients. This is all due to FEMA and building code, which it's throwing out at nine feet.

Here are the here, it's the church. Here, it's the Firestone garage and the five story building. Here, it's another picture or another view of our side, where we're highlighting that we are dedicating a five feet right of way for the existing sidewalk sidewalk and what we call also a corner clip at the intersection of 2nd And 7th. With our proposed, submittal, you will see that we are not requesting any reliefs. We are not and we are complying with all the setbacks.

And, again, we are highlighting on the red the five feet side away sidewalk dedication and the 25 feet radius corner clip. Right on the blue, we are highlighting the existing sidewalk along the south side of the property, which staff would like our client to shift towards the south an additional eight inches because it crosses their property line. And that doesn't seem fair considering it's one that the city constructed. And to give you an estimate, cost of rebuilding that sidewalk, it'll be around $9,000. Here, we have our proposed site plan, and now it breaks down some of the of the area calculations.

So a total lot lot size of our site will be 9,179 square feet. When it comes to our proposed Ground Floor, are at 2,365 square feet. When it comes to our 2nd Floor plan or our 2nd Floor, we're only 603 square feet, which that will bring a total on the roof of a 4,029 square feet. Here, it's our proposed Ground Floor, which we broke down into three different categories. So the purple will be everything that it's under AC.

The blue, it's everything that it's under roof. And the green, it's everything when it comes to outdoor areas and the pool deck. Here, we have our proposed 2nd Floor. And, I wanna make clear that we are only 603 square feet, which we are talking only about a 14% overall of the square footage. Here in this slide, again, we're highlighting that the majority of the house structured, it's a single story and how we are above the minimum open space of a 25% to a 36%.

In this slide, we are showing you how we are breaking the roof. So the first, roof that we we have the purple to be the lower, level roofs, and then we have the, mid level roofs, upper level roofs, and trellises. And that it's just for us to break some of that mass in. And at this point, I'll pass it to Jake.

Okay. So in this side, we have the proposed east elevation. And I have the setback shown that we are complying, but one thing I wanna point out is that dimension in the center at 27 feet and nine inches, which is well below the mean roof height of 35 feet. And then here in the shaded area is to show that we do comply with the building height plane and that a maximum of 25% can project above it. So here we have the proposed north elevation, and and you see how we are shifting the front property line five feet for a sidewalk dedication along with how we're compliant with the front and rear setbacks and the building height plan.

I'm not showing the setbacks. Alright. So similar to the previous slide, here's the proposed south elevation, and we try to minimize the two story proportion at the rear of the house with proposed front massing of the house and the and the roof lines. And here's the proposed west elevations, again, compliant with the setbacks. Staff stated that due to the massing and the blank wall space that they would like us to have two garage doors.

And, typically, we would if we're facing the side and or front of the house, we would do something like that, but we are limited to space due to we're facing an alley, and we wanna go with a larger single door for easier accessibility for vehicles. And now we're gonna go into what it's facing in this alley. So here is a fire sprinkler pump and a transformer. And in the next slide, you could see exhaust vents, used cooking oil waste, meters, gas meters, fire pump room, storage room entrance, and essentially back of house of this hotel. So now we'll go into the two d renderings, and I'll try to go through relatively quick so we could go to the proposed three d renderings.

So here we have the east elevation, and staff has mentioned in the report that the use of synthetic materials are discouraged for structures within the historical district such as borel instead of decorative wood trim. And the issue with that is when this decorative wood trim is exposed to these extreme South Florida weathers, it typically does not hold up well. And when painted, you can't really tell the difference between this real wood and the burl. I actually have here two examples. If you guys wanna see from the naked eye, it's really hard to tell the difference of the material except the Borel does have a lot better longevity.

Do you wanna pass that around?

Yeah. I'd love to. Here you go.

To

continue, here's the proposed north elevation. Another item staff brought up was stucco lap siding instead of the use of instead of Hardie board siding. Hardie board is actually a cementitious material. It's not wood. It's a great product, but it was originally designed for wood framed houses up north, not concrete block homes.

As you guys know, here in South Florida, we have to comply with the law of hurricane codes, and typically, it's gonna deal with concrete block homes. In addition to that, it's a major expense that are for our client and for them to not be forced to spend when stucco lapsiding is a very viable alternative. And here we have the proposed south elevation. I do wanna point out that in the last fifteen years or so, the city started accepting aluminum doors and windows within the district, and it's because they protect the structures better than the wood products. And as time changes, better products might come align, should we consider them?

And another thing I do want to point out in this elevation, you could see it to the right side on the Ground Floor. There's a there's kinda a tree in the way. I'll show it on the backside as well, but there's a window that staff made a comment about muttons not being on the window. We feel that it doesn't really disturb anything. Will be furniture and whatnot in front of it.

And, hopefully, it shows it better in the three d renderings, but, hopefully, it doesn't interfere with anything. So here we have the proposed west elevation. Based previous comments from staff, we did make the upper windows larger. They they want the lower window in the bottom left to be larger. The only issue is it's in a stairwell, so it wouldn't exactly make sense to have that one be larger.

So to do another little material analysis, here's a close-up of stucco lapsidon, and this is about two feet away from it. And staff seem to be focusing on the description of PVC trim, which could be misunderstood for plastic siding, but it's actually just a white line along the bottom of the lap siding, which is the part that's PVC. The rest of it is stucco. And, again, if you're far away, it will read as wood. And another thing I wanna point out about this picture is this lab site in here was constructed in 2004.

And as you could see, it still holds up very well. So now we're gonna go into the three d renderings, which hopefully will give you all a more realistic look of the proposed design on the site. In this one, this is at the southeast corner of the site. We're proposing a fireplace area, and we're gonna continue going around that southern side. And here's a couple outdoor seating areas, which we feel that we're helping to break up the massing of the exterior elevations.

Here's a head on shot that shows the raised pool area. And if you guys can look at the center area, in the next slide, I'm gonna point out the the phantom screen there. And when the sun is out, it will look rather dense. But I assure you guys at nighttime, if you have lights on on the patio, you could tell it's rather transparent. Transparent.

And we're going around this same southern side. And here's the western elevation facing that backside of the hotel. And then here's the north area. And one of the windows with the the muttons not on the window is along this side. So, essentially, it faces nothing that the public will see.

And lastly, we have a few renderings that are act on the actual site. So here's an aerial of that. Here is another angle. One thing I wanna point out in this one is we try to proportion the second story of the house to be blocking the public view from that hotel and try and give our client more privacy. Here's another one.

And I just wanna go back to what Christian said earlier that due to FEMA, it made us raise the house or the base of the house to nine foot above sea level. So we could assume that the adjacent property next to it might be around roughly six foot. That concludes our presentation. We'd be happy to address any comments and or questions you might have. And thank you guys again for allowing us to present this to the board.

Thank you very much. Are we ready for staff?

Just pulling up the presentation. All right. Once again, Michelle Hewitt, Planner. And this is for 146 Southeast 7th Avenue. The request before the board is for the construction of a new two story masonry vernacular single family structure along with ground level improvements.

Here on the screen, we have an aerial with the subject property outlined in red. To the East is Southeast 7th Avenue and to the South is Southeast 2nd Street with an alley to the West. Some brief history and information about the property. It is zoned within the it's zoned RM medium density residential and is located within the locally and nationally designated Marina Historic District. The district particularly contains a mix of two story and one story single family and multifamily structures and contains a multitude of different architectural styles including Mediterranean revival, Mason vernacular, mission revival, minimal traditional, and art modern.

The subject property is currently vacant. However, a structure once existed on the subject property constructed in 1947 along with the garage built in 1950. The buildings functioned as a Sunday schooladministrative office building for the property located to the South 200 Southeast 7th Avenue which you can see the top of poking there. In December 1988 a site plan modification and conditional use were approved by the city commission for demolition of the existing structures, conversion of the site to a once a week grass parking area for use by the former church. The demolition was completed in 1991 and the lot has since been separated from the former church property and no longer functions as a parking lot.

So some existing photos here on the screen, we have the front or east elevation, this space is Southeast 2nd Avenue. Some of the existing curb stops or wheel stops are on the site and then there are little light poles that are out there as well, remnants of the parking lot. Here is the side street or south elevation. This faces Southeast 2nd Street. This is also faces 200 Southeast 7th Avenue, also known as Chapel 4.

Another image of the side of the property where you can see those existing light poles and the rail stops. And this is the rear or west elevation. This faces the alley. Here are images of the adjacent properties. Again, to the south is 200 Southeast 7th Avenue.

This is zoned CF. To the north is And a property within the RM zoning for you to see visually what's immediately adjacent to the structure or to the property. Here we have an existing survey. There are two lines that are or two color lines on the image here. The blue is the outline is the property prior to any dedications.

There are two dedications that are required for this property. There's a fiber dedication along Southeast 7th Avenue and a 25 radius dedication of the corner of Southeast 7th Avenue and Southeast 2nd Street in accordance with the comprehensive plan, the mobility table. So here we have a rendering of the proposed front or east elevation for you to see. We'll get into the renderings again later on in the presentation. Here is the proposed site plan.

So the outline is the new property boundaries and then outlined in red is the overall building footprint and then the shaded areas are the covered roof structures that are also proposed. For ground level improvements, they include a paved parking area in the front and a driveway in the rear, stepping stone paths, decking with the designated pool area, and fencing gates and walls surrounding the proposed property or site. These proposed materials are considered appropriate for the area and the architectural style. Here we have the 1st Floor plan, the proposed 1st Floor plan. Again, the outline is of the overall building footprint and in those shaded areas are those covered areas.

So on the back half towards the west, the alley is where the garage is proposed. You can see it's a two car garage with for access there and there is a paved parking area which we saw previously on the site plan on the front side. Here we have the 2nd Floor plan. So the darker, thicker outlined red rectangle is the only area proposed to be at the 2nd Floor level. And then we have the proposed roof plan.

Here we have the proposed front or east elevation. Again, this space is Southeast 7th Avenue. On this particular facade, there is the finishing is proposed to be simulated stucco lapsiding with the PVC trim. There are there's also a standing seam roof proposed throughout the entire structure. All the roofing's supposed to be the same.

There are all of the window frames, shutters, railings metal essentially besides the front door is supposed to be black aluminum. Here we have the proposed side or south elevation of the spaces, Southeast 2nd Street. Here you can see a little bit better the how far back the 2nd Story is set from the one story and from the front of the property line. Again, the back there on the Ground Floor is where that two car garage is proposed and then that 2nd Story addition. This is also the facade where the proposed pool is to be located.

On this particular facade, the siding is to be a simulated stucco lap siding with PVC trim and a smooth stucco finish are proposed with a stone veneer wall adjacent to the swimming pool, which you can see a little bit better here. Kind of behind the on the left there's a texture for that brick stone veneer which is on this facade technically. Here we have the proposed rear or west elevation. Again, this space is the alley. Alley.

The again, is a two car garage in the back. This can be considered most appropriate in terms of access and location of parking within a historic district as both of their required parking spaces are to be located in the rear. On this particular elevation, the year there is the simulated psycho siding and the lap siding on the 2nd Floor. And then here we have the proposed side or north elevation. This is faces interior or adjacent to the structure to the north.

Again, that second story being recessed. And on this elevation, the smooth stucco is proposed on the Ground Floor and then that simulated stucco lap siding with PVC trim is proposed on the 2nd Floor. The base of the entire structure is proposed to have a smooth stucco finish where it is raised. All of the walls are to be painted glacier white, which can be seen as appropriate to the structure due to its neutral shade. This also assists with minimizing the contrast between the various materials proposed in the facade.

Similarly, stucco siding is not a material typically appropriate for structures within historic districts. Thus, the board will need to make a determination that is appropriate for the subject property. So here we're back to the renderings here where you can see that everything is to be proposed in that glacier white color, the contrast between the various materials and then the proposed black shutters, frames, railings and that metal standing seam roof. Here is interior looking west, rendering. Oh, sorry.

Looking south.

Here we have another side view here. Again, same materials throughout the entire structure or appearance. Here we have the other side. This is where you can see where the pool is located and some of those covered structures that are on the side here. And then we have the proposed Vera West elevation, again with that garage.

This space is the alley. Another image here of the interior. Again, this space is the south. So here on the screen, we have the Secretary of Interior Standards for Rehabilitation with the highlighted sections that were used to analyze this as this is new construction. As previously mentioned in an earlier presentation, most of these don't apply but new construction there are portions of the standards that are applicable to the request.

So regarding standard nine, the proposal involves the construction of a new two story structure. A majority of the structure is one story and then again that two story is recessed towards the back. The district contains a mixture of one story and two story structures so the scale can be seen as compatible comparatively. The proposal does involve additional design mitigation strategies to ensure compatibility with the Marine Historic District, such as the front porch and various offset walls, which aid in reducing the overall massing of the structure. Here we have the visual compatibility standards as this is new construction, we have to ensure that all of these standards can be met with the request.

With regard to height and scale of the building, again, mentioned, the structure is comparable in size and massing, but it is also important to note that new construction is required to comply with the minimum finished floor elevations pursuant to FEMA regulations. So not all of the buildings on the in the district are currently meeting those regulations, but a new construction or proposed substantial improvement to the site will require compliance. So the proposed structure at this new construction will have required nine foot NAVD. The It's eight feet by FEMA and an additional 12 inches per the Florida building codes making it nine feet, which results in a somewhat of a taller structure than what exists within the district. The proposed design situates the one story portion of the structure forward on the lot with a two story component in the rear of the adjacent alley that helps alleviate that additional increased height with those FEMA regulations.

Here's another excerpt from the Visual Compatibility Standards regarding materials. There is concern regarding some of the proposed materials, including a Boral composite trim feature on the garage doors, PVC trim on the gable, and synthetic lap siding on the 2nd Floor. Consideration should be given to the use of appropriate and authentic material adaptations for new construction, including metal and Hardie board. Here we have the certificate of appropriateness findings that were used to analyze the request. And then here we have site plan technical items.

One modification to be made to the first one is that prior to site plan certification, the plans we revised to shift the sidewalk along the south side of the property to be situated within the right of way and not within the boundary of the property and moved in the field is the additional language there. And that concludes my presentation.

Thank you very much. Now is the opportunity for people from the public to speak. Each one of you will have three minutes to speak.

Could we

have your name and address?

Broacher Cope, Cope Architects Inc. Block away, 701 Southeast 1st Street. And I'm here kinda with Anne Whitehead who's half a block not not even a half a block away, two lots away. We adore this house. This and and first of all, well, welcome to the owners, the new owners of the property. They're gonna be our neighbors. We embrace them and welcome them. They've done a magnificent magnificent job in putting this house design together. It is really talk about visual compatibility. This thing defines the visual compatibility in my opinion of that district, of that entire district.

This could easily have been a three story house. Could absolutely have been a two story house. It is a single story house with a very tiny partial second floor above the above the garage which is so subordinate it's along the alley. And we all know that that that five story hotel is sitting there. Extremely visually compatible. It addresses 7th Avenue beautifully. The parking is so well set up. The flow of the house is wonderful. It's got all these beautiful components, saunas, pools, steam rooms, home office, beautiful kitchen. All the public spaces kinda outweigh the private spaces, which is really kinda cool in my opinion.

It's an ideal house set set up for this specific client. It's not there's nothing speculative about any of this. So, the last thing I wanna say is good luck to them. We we'll Anne and I will be there in any capacity that they may need. And and if young mister Eliopoulos and Christian from Gary's office, represents the next generation of architects in this town, I think we're in pretty good shape.

You like that?

And did you want to speak. Anybody else want to speak in the audience. Any rebuttals?

Senior Elliot Ellis. Public comment? No. Thank you. It was great. I we've got no comments. Thank you very much. Loved working with staff.

Staff, any rebuttals?

None from staff.

Okay. We can take it from here, right? Peter, do you wanna lead off? Sure.

Well Gary and his team really did a nice job on this one and I wanna speak out in favor of the materials because I know that this has been an issue around town with the lapsiding and I really think the stucco lap siding is an excellent choice for a few reasons. Durability, value engineering, it's a cost effective product. It can easily be repaired. It looks great when it's painted. And I challenge you to stand across the street and tell me if it's hardy board or if it's stucco or wood.

I mean when it's done properly. So I think it's an excellent choice. And to go with hardy board on a house like this, I mean, it would probably be twice the cost on the exterior skin because you have to mechanically fasten batten boards and and waterproofing and and every board is mechanically fastened, a lot of labor involved. So I I would like to see us look at at this type of material more often and to give people choices. Not every home that comes through is at this level and people need choices that provide some value and this is a good one.

Then the other material, the Borel material is excellent. Again, for similar reasons, very low maintenance, looks great when it's painted, and it will last a long time. I can't tell you how many times we come back to homes that are only two or three years old and we have to replace column cladding, fascia boards, other trim elements that rot out. We have a harsh environment and it's good to have these choices. So I'm definitely in support of of this project and the the use of the materials. And metal roofing, we've seen a lot of metal roofing tonight, so not gonna comment on that. Thank you.

John?

Yeah sure. So I've got a few notes here. Gary, good job on your coaching. Thank you. There was definitely a recognition of the style there. I like the fact yeah. And and, you know, I know it's part of the pitch, but, you know, I go back to it could've been worse. So there's a lot of things that this could have gone here. Multi family, it is zoned RM. So I do appreciate the fact that this is a single family home.

It's not all two stories. It could have easily, you know, even the part that was not within the building site plane, there's a lot of it that's not 2nd Floor. It's broken up a lot. The massing is broken up. There's a lot of contour to it. I appreciate that. I really like the architecture of it. I'm glad it's not another Miami Modern here. I don't have an issue with the garage in the back being one big door turning on an alley. You need to have that, I think, flexibility.

It's not if you're driving down the alley there, you're not gonna be worried about a one, you know, one door on the garage compared to what's across the street there. You're in, like you said, the back of the house of a hotel. The massing of the 2nd Floor, it does look a little unbalanced from the South simply because it is all the way over on the one side, but it is the back of the house technically speaking. It just so happens to be it's on the corner. I don't have any problem with materials as well.

I've replaced lots and lots of rotted wood. Hardiplank in my mind was just created to simulate wood and this is kind of the next step and I understand it's a historic district but I don't have a problem with that in here because we do need, it's a block from the intercoastal and probably less than half a mile from the ocean, it's gonna get a lot of salt. And then, you know, as far as the height of the building, I think it was explained, you know, the floor elevation has been raised and it's probably gonna raise again at some point. So it is gonna look higher than the existing houses, but that's, you know, nothing anybody can do about that. I did have a question question on was there any dispute on the sidewalk?

They had mentioned that the city wanted them to build a new sidewalk because it encroached six inches on the property line. Has that been sorted out? I didn't hear anything from staff on their presentation.

We would have to check with engineering. This is more so there. That would be kind of like the process we have to go through. City engineer and whatever approval or request needs to be made for that. But I don't have I don't know quite what the

Was it a liability issue?

Or So it's a public sidewalk on their property.

Yeah. So I don't know. Alright. Well, I'm just maybe

From my understanding, it's a it's a recommendation from the engineer that this it it can't be on their private property. The city doesn't know whether this was like who put the sidewalk in place at what point, like whether it was a church or something. But it it's showing as if it's like a public sidewalk, but it's actually not all on public land so it just has to be moved. Yeah. And that's something that was like indicated on comments during the process.

So I mean if it's on their property can they just you know get a stone saw and cut off six inches?

Absolutely. They could cut the eight inches off. I've spoken with the architect and their team. I understand the sidewalk's not in the best condition anyway. Know it's older sidewalk. The problem is you can't have public sidewalk within private property without an easement. And the city engineer, I said, well can't they just get an easement? And he said he would not support that. That it would be better to trim the walk for that section of land. If they want to modify that review they could come back for the process and ask. The easement would have to be reviewed by the city commission I believe. So the site plan technical item stands unless they wanna work through some other solution.

Would the sidewalk be wide enough if that were sawn off?

So this is an engineering comment.

The city owns the other property so they could add eight inches to the other side of the

This is an engineering comment. I don't know that it's a make or break comment for this project. There are minimum widths. Yes. Five feet. I would not I would hesitate to testify to you right now that, oh, yeah. It would meet the requirements. I don't know. We would have to look at that.

They could also dedicate then as they have with the corner clip sidewalk?

I think dedication of additional land seems like quite a hardship to me. Not that I'm the, you know, hardship police, but I I feel like it it would be most appropriate that they wanted to question the configuration that they coordinate with the city engineer or one of the city engineers and come up with a different solution. This is the solution we have for now because the comment has not been addressed before it got to the board.

I think there's a hardship either way. Obviously, if it is $9,000 to put in a new sidewalk.

Right. But this again is a site plan technical item. If they want want to move forward with the request, this has to be addressed in some manner. So right now, it's get it addressed prior to site plan certification. Whether they revise the plan, move the sidewalk, whatever they do an easement. If they were able to negotiate an easement and work through the process that way, then this goes away, this item.

But it's part of our purview and it's not part of this motion.

Yeah. Think what you're saying right now it's being addressed as a site plan technical item and if there is some other solution that engineering and them can work out then so be it. But for now it's not before.

Was a public airing of grievances by the

By the architect and his team.

Okay understood. Other than that I'm

I did speak with the architect in between presentations to ask how important is this. And I think that we could potentially if it's something they're really concerned about in the cost that could be resolved another way. And they wouldn't have to come back to the board to take a site plan technical item off if they came up with another resolution.

Good. Okay.

Good. So yeah.

Alright. Glad.

I mean, this is actually for my own education. I have a question, historic speaking. Can you bring the somebody can bring the west elevation for a moment? It's something that, as an architect, I always have. I heard. I said somebody. I'd like to get some sort of decision on that. The the shutter situation. Now I know technically the shutter should be the size of the window, so it appears as a real shutter working, which which they've done, not in the renderings, by the way. The renderings were different phase, so they're kind of smaller and all that.

So you try do do they have to is it a way to use folding shutters or something? Because they do have a problem. I tried to look in the plan to see if they could add shutters to all three windows, and they actually can't. The the side windows will will stick out. You know? So is this a no no? I mean if you can't have shutters in all of them should you remove them all

or No, it's a fair question. It's a design choice by the design professional and we see projects as well where the windows are designed like this and you wouldn't have room to accommodate a shutter.

Absolutely, it's okay.

They don't. So it's okay that there isn't symmetry across the back. Yes. That way they can have that design choice.

Actually it's a beautiful facade. I have no problem with the proportions. It's it's kinda quirky a little bit, interesting, and and it's nice. And the door garage door works well. I actually, initially, I thought it was a single car door garage. I didn't realize it was fairly large. You know, it's nicely done. The other thing I just again, for me, can they use the the the the hurricane shutters for a situation like this to try to kind of give a little more privacy maybe? I'm not sure how practical

You mean like a Bahama shutter?

Well, the slope ones.

Yeah. I mean if they wanted to come through with that kind of design approach with this, they could. But if they altered the elevations

Right.

We would have to look at it and make a call whether it's an admin approval or whether it would have to come back to the board. Being that it's not a primary elevation we would look at it. But I think we'd be looking at the entirety of the building. Not just the rear to see are there Bahamas shutters elsewhere on the site.

No. Actually, I have nothing but good comments about the project. It's beautiful.

I I

have no problem.

It's just that this thing was something that I run into it sometimes and I don't exactly how to solve it. And I just wanted to have some expert opinion on it and I got it.

Now if this was an existing historic structure and they were cutting new windows in and every single window already had shutters and they were proposing two windows on the back without, we would have an analysis and the staff report to that effect.

Interesting. In defense of the shutter, the slope shutter idea though, they will give them much more privacy. They're very exposed, the the bedroom and all that to the I'm not sure how much the hotel can look at them from across the alley, but but they will have just to consider. It's not a

Some have

some healthy windows change. Doesn't change in my appreciation of the building.

Yeah. It's good.

I'm I'm for it.

Okay. I have a couple of thoughts here. One was the the initial presentation talked about 9,000 square feet of the lot and only 4,000 under air, but it looks, at least from my eye, that there's a lot more under air and or less of the 9,000 square feet. Is that something that

I think we'll probably have the architect answer this. But if I were to take a stab at it, when we're talking under air, we're not including the garage space, which is probably 400 square feet alone but mister Iliopoulos may wish to answer.

Michelle you are correct. So the 4,000 was under roof not under air so when we did that color scheme where you saw the purple you saw there was a lot less purple. You're talking about a couple thousand square feet. Then upstairs you saw we had 600. The balance of that is under roof, which is the porches and the garage. Okay.

I also noted that in the write up it talked about gray glass rather than clear glass.

Michelle if you wanna answer this? Yes

this is a non contributing structure, new construction and it was determined by the board previously that any non contributing structures can utilize gray glass because they are required to meet energy code requirements. And this is kind of the that was the path that the board chose to apply on the windows for those that need to meet energy calcs.

But in buildings less than a block away from there, we have required them to have clear glass. I realize contributing, non contributing, but it would just seem to me that in terms of overall conformance in the neighborhood to have one that has gray glass sort of standing out versus all the others with When clear

you say one a block away we have clear glass, what what do you mean?

The corner of Marine Way and I believe third, we require them to have clear glass.

So the the distinction as Michelle had noted is we came to the board because we were having a proliferation of green colored glass.

That's the low e coating. You got it.

Right. And the the issue that we were struggling with is there were so many different varieties of green. There was reflectivity, there was iridescence. We had a number of window contractors coming through to the board after people put green glass in. You know, we've And since I started here back in 2016, we have been struggling with glass color, particularly because of a mirrored window project up in Delaida Park.

So we came to the board and asked, what what is it that you want us to tell applicants? Because many windows can go straight to permit and don't have to come to the board. And it was the board's direction that no low e be utilized or no green color. If they can get low e without green, they can do low e. Because brand new structures such as this are required to meet energy efficiency calculations, which is a prescriptive method of windows, air conditioning, roof covering, floors, insulation.

How do we help them to meet the code? So the compromise was they could have green or gray glass. Historic structures don't have to meet energy calc requirements. So we stuck with the secretary of the interior standard, the board did, and said they wanna continue to have clear glass for those structures. So with a new structure, they can have gray glass.

That doesn't mean they can't have clear if an owner just really wanted clear, but they're probably going to have to do a more energy efficient roof or air conditioning unit. So this is the standard that the board outlined and approved for us to move forward with. And they are meeting it. Now the window frame color black, that's something different. We're seeing more frequently for new construction. White has been the direction with passports, white frame for both historic and new structures. But we're seeing this more and more. So it's not really an issue issue with the color of the glass.

Referencing the frame, I think it was mentioned early on in the presentation about this isn't another white sugar cube. To me the The roof all white and the facade all white with some black trim still has. Somewhat of a feeling of the white sugar cubes that are going up around the city.

Actually the the roof will be a slate gray. It's not it's not shown reflected in that rendering. As far as the sugar cube, the sugar cube is just a quick terminology of cubes. I mean, they this house for me, I would tell you, I don't feel is a sugar cube. It is white. That part is true, but that's just a color. When you're dealing with the modern houses, you can paint them any color you want. It's still gonna be whether you want to call it a cube or a sugar cube. I think that's where the distinction is and what we were referring to was more to prior to Brian and Collar buying the property. I mean it was a full package for some reason that they were gonna submit and they ended up getting a buyer so they didn't submit it.

But it was everything that you could imagine being a modern structure. Again, we're we're never suggesting that you guys would have approved it, but that's how everybody was looking at this property. They were looking at it whether it be because the size, you could do two units or you could do a taller structure. Of course, if I was the architect, I'd be coming in saying, listen. I got a hotel behind me, guys. Work with me. So I think this was just this was a gift to the marina for these clients to come in. Their background are The Caribbean and Key West. That's all they talked about about this structure the whole time is we want old Florida. And so we're very fortunate to have them come into this and I'm hoping you guys will agree with that.

I do wanna ask about the trees. The trees. I'm sure you have an answer already prepared for that.

Where's that landscape architect that's on this floor? So there's gonna be some moving around with some trees and stuff. There was a goal to try and keep stuff and things like that, but I I really do need Carol to respond on that. But, yeah, there some of those are definitely coming down just the way it is. We're trying to create as much privacy as we can but at the same time we do want some sunlight. We have an arborist report. We had everything done correctly so that we know whatever we do replace we do it either with equal and or volume so we are complying with everything that way.

Are you doing equal genus and species or you replacing with palm trees?

Well, yeah. There's gonna be palms and stuff like that. So what happens is we gotta equal it with the amount of palms that we gotta do to that one tree if you take that tree down.

Are are black olives along there?

Or Yeah.

Yeah. Which

They were actually ruining that poor sidewalk that was actually encroaching the front. I was like, are we gonna do? The sidewalk or the trees? I

mean, it could have been a, you know, a duplex with the entrance on the alley too. So, you know, I'm glad we don't have that.

Be interested to you'd be interested to see the possible scenarios we saw

from this.

No. I'm

sure. I'm sure.

So just I can't ask the question of how many trees are being saved.

I I think I think you know this part, but a bit out of the board's purview to well, is out of the board's purview.

I knew you were gonna

hit the single family home landscaping. Say that and make the board chair maybe feel more comfortable as we have had extended conversation about the trees via our senior landscape planner with the applicant. And again they have the right per the Florida statutes to take the trees down. But we have All confidence that these owners are going to do a really nice landscape plan when the time for building permit.

Did want to ask about the West elevation on the alley. I think that's a 20 foot alley, right? That's not

It actually is, yes. The hotel dedicated additional right of way. So there's no right of way dedication on the alley as I remember it. So yes.

So isn't there sufficient turning radius to have a two car, two door garage?

So you probably will have the architect answer this but we did do some review on having independent garage doors. You don't have the typical driveway approach leading up to the garage. You have the required maneuvering. There's a 42 foot maneuvering requirement from the front of the parking space to the opposite side of the alley per the code. So they meet that requirement. But we do think it would be a potential difficult radius radius to make with independent garage doors. Being that this is a garage facing the alley I think it's kind of a win. If the architect wanted to speak to that further he certainly

Michele you hit it right on the button. We hit basically 10 feet in front of that for an apron. Now if it was my wife driving, she's an excellent driver, but for me when I'm spinning the car in I have issues. The goal is anytime we do a home, I don't normally go with this direction. I always try to do a two door garage. We usually like to do them nine foot wide and nine foot high. We like to make them extra large. When you start looking at the scope of what we're proposing here, we've actually brought the scale down. We've done everything. It is appropriate, I think, in this case to do this door.

It's not like this was a 20 foot wide door. It is facing the service yard of the hotel. And again, it although you have the alley of 20 feet, when you don't have that large apron it is difficult to turn in and make sure you're not going to be hitting the columns in between the doors. This was a choice that we really felt we would do on any home that was this type of situation where radiuses are tough. It's not ideal but again as they said in the presentation, we're not facing the side street, we're not facing the front so we felt this was appropriate. But that was the reason.

On the east elevation, and this is my last question.

No, no, no, keep going.

If you insist. Yes, it's your shove. Not exactly. Could we just, yeah, that's the one I wanted to say. That gives me a a sense of more massing, I think, than is really there. And I'm just wondering if that the pitch on that roof could be changed and lower the profile from the sidewalk from the street. Yep.

Yep. There.

Do that one there. Thank you. Okay. So mister chairman, so what happens is this. I think one of the things that's very deceiving when you're looking at elevation, a straight on elevation, you're looking at about an eye level which would be 20 feet up in the air. You're never gonna see this elevation. You're never gonna see that front elevation where you actually see the back of the building. We've actually done one of these homes over on first. It is impossible to see the back of the two story. Now with regards to the roof pitch, we intentionally did go high because we actually wanted to bring it more to scale with the two story, bringing it down with that higher pitch.

So it was intentional. I didn't wanna see the south elevation where you're just seeing this tall element in the back that looks like an addition. Mhmm. So that's why we were trying to balance this out. We threw in the Boston hips. I mean, again, we're trying to break it up. We have the shed roofs. Again, it was more of taking away from that story element so it actually appears like it's one story. So it was intentional. I understand what you're talking about, but I actually do believe when it's not in two d and it's three d, you won't be seeing this. It is very dramatic when we show a two or I should say a two d elevation where you're seeing it this way because it's impossible to see this.

Okay. That's all I have. Thank you. Shall we make a motion?

I'll be happy to. Mr. Chair, I'd like to move approval of the certificate of appropriateness request 2020Five-fifty6 for 146 SE 7th Avenue Marina Historic District by finding that the request and approve of thereof is consistent with comprehensive plan and meets the criteria set forth in the land development regulations.

I second.

Call the rule.

John Miller?

Yes.

Ezra Krieg is absent. Peter Dwyer?

Yes.

Chris Kovaczyn is absent. Vlad Jim Etruscu? Yes. Kern Press stepped down. Jim Chart?

Yes. Thank you very Thank you, staff.

Okay. We now move to the another part exciting part of our agenda. Yes. Michelle Hoyland We I guess you wanna do presentations first and then go on to the selection? Yeah.

So I will present the awards, and you'll deliberate after I've done the full presentation. So you can get a few full view of each category if that's okay with you.

But you don't have any other presentations other than that? Okay.

No. I have a board comment, but not a presentation at the end. Okay. Michelle Hoyland, principal planner for the record. So as we approach May which is coming up here in a month, it's preservation month, the National Trust for Historic Preservation honors people, places, spaces every year along with municipalities like ourselves. And

look at

the good work that's been done in historic preservation across the country. So this is their seventy fifth year anniversary of the National Trust for Historic Preservation. Their theme this year, which it hasn't changed in a few years, so it's kind of exciting to see that they have a new theme. It's called the power of place. And I just think, you know, here is a snippet that was in your backup for your memo in preparation for this.

And I just wanna read that, you know, this began in 1973, preservation month. And the city of Delray Beach has been doing the preservation board awards now. I think we're on our fourth or fifth year of bringing that back. We did it many years ago. John probably remembers when the board had preservation awards years ago.

But I think it's important just to read this. There is no denying the role preservationists play in protecting historic spaces while meeting the needs of communities for the present and the future. This May, preservation month, we're celebrating the power of place and the countless ways big and small that preservation creates. The work you do strengthens communities, breathes new life into neighborhoods, supports a healthier planet and builds a more just and connected society. And that's from the National Trust website.

So I first wanna thank the board members for your hours of contribution to the city and a volunteer capacity in serving on this board. We greatly appreciate the hard work that you put in to looking over the agendas every month and coming to the meetings with important things to say and contributions to make. And I think that you're having quite a role in shaping our community the work that you're doing. So I want to thank each and every one of you for serving the city of Delray Beach.

Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. When

we have our final awards, when we grant the awards we have a ceremony in May at the first meeting after you deliberate and select winners tonight. At that meeting we will do a piece on the historic Seaboard Railway Station, Seaboard Airline Railway Station, which is complete. Some of you may know it burned several years ago as a result of arson. Removed. Some of it was rehabilitated, most of it was reconstructed.

We've got some great pictures to share with you. The city human resources department is located out there along with the city clinic. The city has a healthcare clinic. And so they are in place and in operation. So it's beautiful, the interior's beautiful. There's little touches that kind of give a nod to the railroad use that existed for this building for many years. So next month we will have additional pictures of the inside to show you and the preservation effort. Here's our completed view of what this looks like today. I don't if you've driven out there. It's the gates are open during the week if you're interested and wanna drive out and walk through.

It is a public building. You could go and take a peek inside or visit the outside if you're interested. So this year we have four award categories. Residential contributing for rehabilitation and addition. Residential contributing for rehabilitation and accessory structure.

Residential contributing addition, addition alone. And then commercial contributing rehabilitation. So our first category here we have two nominees for the rehabilitation and addition category. The first nominee is 108 North Swinton Ave in the Old School Square historic district. The second is 310 Northeast 1st Ave.

This property is just north of Space Of Mind, two parcels North of Dada's on the West Side Of Swinton. The home existed like this for many years when the owner came to us. She was interested in looking at possible restoration of different elements of the building. And you can see the after photograph here, one of the elements that she restored was the original that front porch. The addition in the rear with this is tucked away in the back with a garage accessing the North South Alley on the rear.

You can see here's a before picture. Building definitely needed some love, and it's quite an improvement. This is that north side where the pool was kind of tucked back into the side of the building and the north side of the site. Use of Chicago brick pavers and the ginger breading you can see with the scallop gable detail. They did a really lovely job.

This is the rear. The addition in the back portion of that addition was removed to make way for new addition, which increased the size of the structure, and then the garage had accesses off the alley. So that's our first applicant or our first nominee I should say. Our next nominee is 310 Northeast 1st Avenue. This is a before picture. It's hard to think what needed to happen, right? It's such a beautiful home. And these owners gave even more love to this structure. They came through and did enclose the carport and included an addition in the back, which I'll show you in a moment. So this is the after photo.

They worked to ensure they preserved those cross design or or x design almost trellis like feature on the front porch. And removed what was a 1980s kind of porch railing you can see around the bottom there in favor of having an open porch at the base. This is the rear of the property that faced the alley. This is the new rear now with a small dipole in the back and patio and covered porch area. And then a garage facing the rear alley.

So they also tucked the addition into the back of the home and like the other applicant designed it so it was not forward of the front facade and making sure that it was as inconspicuous as possible. So that's our first two sets of items. And if you want to stop here and talk through and deliberate, feel free, or I can go on to the next categories and we can look at everything and then circle back. So I think you asked me in the beginning and that was what I was going to do, but if you want me to do something different, I'm happy to stop here.

I'd rather just vote and move on. Yeah.

Yeah. I had to remember back for

a little bit. I Yeah. I'm open. Is there any owners of any of these here tonight?

For the next week.

Oh, okay. Okay. Because these two are really tough and if you show up that gets points in my mind. So I mean I'll start. I I like the top one just simply because they opened up the front porch. I love that. And I watched that one happen and they probably put as much money into rehabbing this house as to building two new ones. So Yeah. They took would be my vote.

Took it down to the studs.

Peter?

Yeah. I'm for the top one as well. I watched it go up and I I love execution and just a great property. The people that did it actually lived on my street temporarily, so I got to talk to them a little bit. And really nice job. I

I also vote for that one. For one way. Carol? It's hard but

I also vote for the top one. I mean both are Very nice. Yeah both are very nice. I think transformation on the one on the top is amazing and and it really adds to Swinton's

beauty too.

Yeah. That's

I'm gonna vote with the majority here. The thing that I really really catches me is when you drive by. As I'm sure Carol and I do every day. It just really attracts your vision to that. The way the way it's laid out. Car part on the side, the plantings, it's it's just a beautiful, beautiful job.

Yeah. Very

nice. Yeah.

I I actually the owner donated a bunch of the old materials to the historical society. So I went over there and collected some glass door knobs and stuff before that. I mean, there were places you wouldn't walk on that floor. So kudos to her for taking it on. We need to have a formal vote or what do we need to do? Consensus, I think.

I I think you you should do a motion. Just do, you know, a motion to approve 108 North Swinton Avenue as the as the winner of the residential contributing rehabilitation and addition.

Yeah. I

have a motion up

there for say so moved if you wanted to. Yeah. Okay. Or read what she wrote.

Yeah. You wanna do it? Okay. So motion to approve the 108 Swinton North Swinton Avenue on the Old School Square Historic District as the winner of the 2025 Historic Preservation Board Award for the category of residential contributing rehabilitation and addition. Second.

You. We don't need to call them roll on this. Right?

Just Do

we need to call roll?

No. Whatever you guys want. If you wanna do an all in favor, please.

In favor. Yep.

Alright. All in favor?

Aye. Yes.

Okay. So our next category, residential contributing rehabilitation and accessory structure. So our two nominees are 125 Northeast 1st Avenue in the Old School Square Historic District, and 170 Marine Way in the Marina Historic District. I don't know how many of you are familiar with this property. There was a gentleman who lived here.

I believe he was a veteran. He was here for many years. And I don't know remember what happened, but he ended up moving away or or leaving the property and new owners came in. They came before the board and came before you and asked for rehabilitation of both the front and rear structure with some addition on the back structure. Staff toured the property.

It was in quite the condition. Had lots of love needed for this structure. And so the owners completely rehabilitated the front structure and the back. And the back has a small addition on the front like a porch area. It was kind of crazy to see how the structures were built and the interior, how they were put together.

So we can see here they added new siding or replacement wood siding. They added a little front stoop porch area. New roof, this is one of our metal roofs, metal shingle roofs on the main structure. And I did not get to see the interior. Michelle and Katharina I think did.

They said it was quite lovely. This is another before picture here looking at the front. And this is an after, so just very simple and clean lines on this structure. This is the back which had, you can see lean to type of additions, there were several of these. And this is completed west elevation, so facing the back of the house and facing 1st Avenue with new stoop and door.

We were lucky that Google Street View went down the back because we wouldn't have had this picture in our arsenal. Quite interesting to see where it's come with the new front porch stoop in the back here as well. So that's 125 Northeast 1st Ave. This is looking at that back structure on the south side where that new porch was added. And then we have 170 Marine Way.

This home was moved to this site many years ago. It's individually designated as a historic structure. And there had been, several iterations of, alterations proposed for this over the years, a few different owners that came through and made alterations to those approved plans. And now the owners that have it now executed and completed the project. I don't know for those of you who had driven by this, it sat for quite a while after the guest house in the back was built and the piece in the front that was approved hadn't been completed because that sale occurred.

So these owners came in and brought the ball across the finish line. And you can see here, I'm excited to see what's gonna look like in a year when the trees are fully grown in and landscaping's grown in both of these properties, the one prior and this. So there's some new landscaping. You can see what's kind of peeking out here on the right side of the screen. This is new addition.

They had struggles with finished floor elevation requirements because it is in the FEMA flood Zone district, so the entirety of this house also is elevated. This is looking at the corner as if you were standing at Marine Way and 2nd Street. And now with the new fence, landscaping, and some addition kind of peeking out here too. This is if you were standing at 2nd Street looking north and there the structure in the the background is the next property over. And this is what that looks like now inside their pool area with their entertainment covered entertainment area.

On the right side of the picture is part of the addition that was added to the main structure. And on the left side in the next picture I'll show you, but that's where the garage and guesthouse on the 2nd Floor exists. So this is again looking at that view and now the new garage built back there. And accessory structure above. So these are your two nominees in the category of rehabilitation and accessory structure.

That is a tough one.

And it's tough. Which one? The one? Yeah. Good. I was hoping you were the first one because

I like that one better. Can we ask that question, Kelly?

Been asked. And they're

both gorgeous. Think they're both gorgeous. I I like the top one just because it was really the overall footprint really didn't change and it just brought it back to life so to speak. There was probably a lot more money invested in the second one but I just think, I mean that first one looked, I mean it was almost like a hoarding situation there for a long time. It was pretty bad.

I didn't want to say that but yeah.

It's been said. Right?

The picture I took off of the rear, this one, was after this owner purchased the property and cleared it out. I considered putting the picture in which was before they bought it, and you couldn't see any of the structure Yeah. With everything that was on the site. Yeah.

Yeah. And it it's such a great location. I mean, those are my thoughts.

I think the gentleman who lived there maybe needed bigger property elsewhere because I think he was quite the collector. He had things of importance to him.

Well mean Delray's changed over the years. That was a lot more common back in the day too.

Carol, do you have any comments?

Could there be two winners?

I think

they're very different projects. You get a huge undertaking on the one for 170 Marine Way and then 121 and 125 is just a, that was a great project too. They're

just a little different. Did consider that when we brought these two as contenders against each other. Because one was almost like the investment that had to be made in this one here and getting the property safe was not the same situation for the other one where they had a livable property that they could have anybody could have moved in and lived in. So bringing it up to standards versus improving standards, we did struggle a bit with putting them against each other, but we thought that the trade offs were fair, that each could be looked at independently but also judged against each other. I get your thought

on was not. That. This one.

The other one was. And then the

pool area for one seventy, it's a courtyard situation.

Yes.

Right? They constructed the new garage on the left side of the screen to create that courtyard.

Mhmm. Mhmm. Okay. Yeah. I'm familiar with that

Yeah. Can I show? I'm sorry. Did oh, I'm sorry.

No. No. I'm just

curious a little bit because they're so different, the two. And I have value, of course, and now that this whole thing cleared a little it was clear to me a little bit what the effort for the first one was. I definitely find that had more value ultimately than than the second one. But I'm also curious. Did do you know if they actually worked with an architect or that was a work of love just themselves?

They did. They worked with design professionals. And I think somebody asked if you could have a tie. I mean if the board really felt that these were that different, that they both merited some kind of award, you could separate and create a separate category even so that they each won. We have had ties in the past. I'm trying to be diplomatic but I'm also trying to respect that you're seeing somewhat of a difference. Maybe not in agreement with what I had suggested.

It's very millennial of you. Everybody gets a trophy.

I appreciate that but I'm Gen X and I like

to get my trophy.

I agree with you.

Hey I was at Violet Fems this weekend.

But I do respect the amount of effort and money and time that have gone into both of these projects.

I'd like to make a motion and we'll see how it votes out. I'd like to move that we Could you put it up there so I get the language?

Yes sir.

Thank you. Okay, I'd like to move to approve 121 Dash 125 Northeast 1st Avenue Old School Square Historic District as the winner of the 2025 Historic Preservation Board Award for the category of residential contributing rehabilitation and accessory structure. I'll second that. Did

we want to consider Michelle's suggestion of making an extra category or I mean, it just seems to me that when when we have residents that spend that much time and money to preserve the buildings, they They shouldn't come in second.

I mean they have a beautiful house. I'd trade any day for it. Yeah.

I will say that house though, it's it wasn't that's new construction relatively. The marine the garage is new, but the house itself is a historic individually designated home that was moved there.

It was moved there, okay,

because I remember

it being an empty lot.

Years ago it was, yeah. So this was a home that was saved. Interestingly the lot it was on it was sitting sideways on the lot so the front of the house faced an interior side. So when it came here it really got to kind of shine. But yeah, it was moved. Okay. In a saving effort.

Do you know if that one has an architect that we know? Because I'm suspecting that they're gonna get an award for the house through the architect.

So the owner gets the award. There have been a number of architects on this project over the years that did the renovation. I wanna say there were three. So there was a kind of a progression of design professionals.

It looks like one that as an architect I would definitely submit for an award.

Yeah. It was the original architect that came in. I'd I'd have to go. Their name is escaping me. And then the owners sold. And the new owners came in. And they had their architect. And then they sold. And the new owners came in. And I think they had their own. So I think there were three. There were at least two that had their fingerprints on this.

We still have the discussion I think. We have the motion and the second.

Motion and the second.

As to whether you might want to amend the motion to accommodate them both.

No. Okay.

Alright. Let's call the roll.

John Miller?

Yes.

4125? Is that you telling me?

121125, yeah.

Okay. Peter Dwyer? Yes. 4125?

Yes, 125.

Yes. The same one. 121.

Carol Perez? Yes. Jim Chard?

Yes. Okay. Forced my hand. Hey.

Wish the chair could make a motion, right? Can pass the gow.

Yeah. Okay. So I'm realizing that the pictures on here are the wrong pictures, but the addresses are right and I've got the extended pictures. So it

It's correct presentation on the

Is it Okay. I don't know what happened here. I'm sorry. But these two category this category is residential contributing addition. So disregard the pictures on this page, but I'll go through a more detailed explanation of both. 300 Southeast 7th Avenue in the Marina Historic District and 240 North Dixie Boulevard in the Del Ida Park Historic District. So you will probably remember this. This is Southeast 7th Avenue at the Southwest Corner of 3rd And 7th. This owner came through with an addition to the rear of the structure. And you can see here that this is the after photo.

They added a two car garage and additional living area on the 2nd Floor of that garage structure which connected to the main structure. The before pictures, we don't have a ton of really great ones because it was heavily landscaped. Don't forget this is the home of the Blank Family Nursery, the Marine Historic District. So we love that this owner has so many trees on their property. They really take their trees pretty seriously.

Remember them talking about it at the meeting. But here's a view inside their motor court where you can see the new addition added onto the back of the home. Part of what you can't see too great, but they did make some adjustments to the existing structure to take off. I think there was kind of like this tile feature that was on the side of the building to bring it back to a more original appearance where the building connected to the new addition. So this is a before looking at the front and I just wanted to note that there's some improvements that have been made along the front of the property as well.

So here's 240 North Dixie Boulevard. These owners were, I think renting this property for a long time and decided to come home to Del Ida Park. And they moved back here with their son. Their son's a little bit older, so they wanted to create an addition in the back of the house to have space for him on the property. So the rear of the property was vacant.