Planning & Zoning Board - Regular Meeting

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Good evening. I call this meeting to order of the uh city of PMPO Beach Planning and Zoning Board for Wednesday, January 28th, 2026. Um we've got a couple of alternates serving on the board tonight. Our chair, Fred Stac, could not be here, so I'm filling in for him. Um, also, um, filling in for Fred is Kerianne Warley to my left. And filling in for Rich Daly, who could not be here as well, is David Mingus, also to my left. Um, and Gigi Dubc could not be here this evening either. So, we'll have six instead of our usual seven. Um, Bobby, would you please call the role?

Gigi Dubc, Paul Fischer, here. Robert Hartzell here. Hendrick King here. David Bingis here. Marian Warley here. Carla Coleman here.

Um, as usual, we'll observe a 30 second moment of silence, please. Thank you. Would everyone please make sure that their phones are turned off or to vibrate before we get started this evening? And um uh with that um I'm going to ask for a uh motion to approve the minutes from the December 17th, 2025 meeting.

So moved. Is there a second? Second. Are there any changes from anyone to those minutes? Seeing none, Bobby, would you call the role, please? Paul Fischer, yes. Robert Hartzell, yes. Hundred King, yes. David Mingus, yes. Arien Warley, yes. Carla Coleman, yes. Um, anyone who wishes to speak to us tonight to testify on any matter that's on the agenda, would you please uh stand, raise your right hand, and be sworn in? If you even think that you're going to testify tonight, please go ahead and get sworn in.

Please stand and raise your right hand. Do you swear or affirm that the evidence you're about to give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? Thank you. Thank you.

Okay. Um before we get started on um items on tonight's agenda, I'd like to give the floor to our attorney, James Saunders, just briefly. Uh thank you, Madam Chair. Um the item number four, LN814, parents information and resource center flex unit request uh PNZ number 25-0500005. Um it's my request um that we postpone this item to the very next agenda uh for the planning and zoning board. There were some new developments that we just learned of and in the abundant abundance of caution, um, I'm going to ask the board if they would, uh, uh, postpone that item to the very next agenda.

And it's my understanding that this is our postponement, so it it does not infringe um, on the applicant uh, and take up any of his rights, his or her rights in this. That is correct. Okay. Um, do I have a motion to postpone? I'll make a motion to [clears throat] postpone item number 4 LN814 PNZ number 25 0500 Z00 Z5 and postpone uh that item until the next agenda. Second. That would be February 25th. We can amend that into the motion.

So, uh Mr. Hartzell, you were the first motion. Yes, I'll amend to add the date of February 25th, 2026. Yes. Um, any any discussion on that? Seeing none, Bobby, please call the role. Second. Tundra. Second. King seconded. Robert Hartzo. Yes. Hundra King. Yes. Paul Fischer, yes. David Mingus, yes. Arian Warley, yes. Carla Coleman, yes.

Thank you. Um, with that, uh, we will go to the first item on the agenda. Uh, LN 832, PNZ number 2592 4 Z3. Um, Miss Dolan, I believe this is your item.

Thank you, Chairman. Gan Dolan, development services. I should say chairperson. This is the comprehensive text comprehensive plan text amendment for the 2025 water supply plan update. So, we do a water supply plan update every five years and it's uh adopted within 18 months of when the Lower East Coast water supply plan update is done by the water management district. So, some of you were here in 2020 when we did this last uh and so we are doing it again. Um there are some policies in our comprehensive plan that we'll be changing to support the facilities work plan in the portable water element and in the conservation element. So we do this every year, every five years to uh satisfy the requirements of chapter 163.31776c of the Florida statutes which does require us to update this plan within 18 months of the lower east coast water supply plan update that did occur in September of 24. So we're shooting for March for our final adoption. Oh, I skipped one. So just as a brief summary of what we're changing in the portable water element, we will be uh adding our revised level of service standards that are based on more recent data analysis. Uh the available treatment plant capacity and treatment methods to remove all the PAS from treated water and that's those are forever chemicals. I'm sure you've heard of uh the need of for changes to the consumptive use permit by 2030 to accommodate the removal of the PAS from the water supply. the water demand calculations for new development. We are modifying how we do that. Reclaimed water infrastructure installation for new development and mandatory connections once water uh reclaimed water is available [clears throat] and the expansion of reuse infrastructure and consideration of potential alternative water supplies to

meet the water demand through 2045. The policy changes in the conservation element focus on the acknowledgment that the outfall is now completely over. Um there can be no more treated sewage going out of the ocean outfall and we also include the alternative water supply plan uh research in the conservation element. So tonight we're asking for a recommendation of approval. The first motion is suggested is to recommend approval of the proposed policy amendments to support the implementation of the 2025 water supply plan update as the board finds the proposed amendments meet the requirements of section 163.3177 Florida statutes and the 2024 lower E coast water supply plan update. Another option would be to table the item to allow for further analysis of any issues raised by the board, staff, applicant or the general public. and we are recommending motion one. If you have any questions for me, we could take those now. Um, but the utility department does have an overview of what's in the water supply plan update that you might want to hear first. Uh, but I'll leave that up to the pleasure of the board.

Board, would you like to hear the presentation first? Let's do that.

All right, let's do it. Good evening board. Good evening chairperson. U my name is Angelica Gregory with Corollo Engineers. Corollo is the consultant selected by the utilities department. Okay. Carello is the consultant selected by the utilities department to complete the 2025 water supply plan updates in response to the regulatory requirement that Miss Dolan just pointed out. Um, a little bit of background, we also prepared the 2020 update of the plan and have been working with the utility department for a number of years. um the department I thanks the I thank the department for the trust of um having me do this presentation to you. I'll do my best to answer any questions on behalf of the utilities department. We have Reinuka Muhammad here, director of of the department also available to ask any questions. So the water supply plan otherwise known as the water supply facilities work plan is in the case of the city uh standalone document that is adopted by reference into the city's comprehensive plan. There are other formats accepted by the South Florida Water Management District. Again, like like Jean said, that's the agency that approves the consumption. Yeah, that's the slide I'm talking

about. Is is the the district is the agency that allocates the untreated water to municipalities for them to treat for consumption and then distribute it to the residents. So the district accepts several formats of this plan and selecting the format is a decision related to the mechanism of the of adoption of that plan. So in in our case the city has selected a standalone document which uh I'm showing the table of contents in the presentation. This standalone document has several chapters. I'm going to be referring and expanding in uh on the sections that are most relevant. But if you have questions about other sections or related items, please feel free to ask them. Okay. So, here it's about the water service area. One of the first sections of the standalone document is a description of what we are serving as a city. The city has a total area of 25 square miles and as of April of 2025, the city's planning and zoning department reported a population of 115,697 inhabitants. In the map, you will see that the city's utility service area, including the water, wastewater, and reuse, varies from the jurisdictional area. The water utility service area serves 19 square miles consisting of a large portion of the city along with neighboring municipalities which include the city of Lighthouse Point and the town of Lauderdale by the sea.

Brower County Water and Wastewater Services Districts one and two supply portable portable water to the portions of the city that are not served internally by the utility. The city residents that are served by Broward County are direct customers of Broward County Water and Wastewater Services. There are also private well users within the service area mostly for irrigation use for landscaping or maintenance of golf courses. And I want to point out that they are not within reach of the reuse system yet. Another important chapter in the standalone document is about the portable water facilities. The there's several facilities that the plan describes. The first of all are the raw water supply uh well fields. There's two Biscane aquifer whalefields, the east and the west. The eastern whalefield has a permitted annual allocation and its monthly withdrawals are limited during the dry season. The western whalefield has a permitted annual allocation larger than the east whalefield and it does not have a seasonal withdrawal limitation. The allocation from participation in the C-51 project that you may be aware of applies to withdrawals from the western wheelfield only. The city water treatment plant uses that water and is located north of 12th Street between northwest north no northeast 3rd Avenue and northeast 5th Avenue here in the city. The treatment

plant has two parallel treatment processes. One is conventional lime softening and the other one is nanopiltration membrane softening. The first one has a design capacity of 40 million gallons per day or MGD and the second one is 10 million gallons per day. The total capacity of the plant combined with the two treatment processes is 50 million gallons per day. The lime softening plant receives water primarily from the eastern wellfield while the membrane plant receives water from the western wellfield. The city also has 13 million gallons worth of water storage capacity, some of which resides at the plant, the majority of it. And only 1 million gallon of that storage is in Indian mound uh close to the island. There are 290 miles of water lines from 2 in in diameter up to 36 inches in diameter. And that's the distribution system that goes to each of the residents in the service area. Another important section in the standalone document is data and analysis. The South Florida Water Management District looks into this with a magnifying glass and um it has been um very carefully uh developed with coordination with Miss M Dolan from planning services from plan the planning and zoning department populations population projections as part of this data analysis were prepared vers based based on per capita consumption index

and um the result is a five-year lookout a 30 for for the 2030 year the table you cannot see it very well but it says 2030 then a 10-year lookout for 2035 and then a 20-year capital planning horizon which is a 2045 ultimate buildout projections not shown in this slide are provided for consistency are provided in the plan for consistency with the South Florida Water Management District and their policy for those utilities that are participating in the C-51 reservoir project and the city is participating in that. So other than the the time frame that you see here through 2045, there are also population projections and demand projections associated with 2065. The Finnish water per capita consumption or level of service level of service standard adopted by the city after this data analysis is 141 gallons per capita per day which is based on water production data and the population from January of 2019 through July of 2024. So, it's the fast.

May I stop you right there and ask a question? And anybody else who has a question, they're hard to hold in your head too long here. I noticed in the report that we were lowering the standard to 141 from 161.

Is that you say it's based on population? That's what we're using today is 141 per gallons per person. That is what we are intending to adopt and that's based on the historical consumption but it has multiple components. The reduction we're going to go through the reduction in per capita consumption in in one of the slides. I do want to point out that there are several components that account that are accounted for in the reduction of that per capita consumption. Multiple conservation is not the only one. There's multiple reasons why the index can go down. Okay. Yeah.

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Thank you. Great question. So based on population projections and that level service standard of 141 demand projections were estimated for each of those planning years. So it's population times a per capita you get the demand finished water actual demand for consumption and and and with that we proceed to plan how to get that water to our residents. So as a result there is a demand and supply curve that we need to check right. The demand projections are for treated water. We let me let me go back a little bit. I want to point out in in the last slide I missed that the current water demand in an average year is 15.07 million gallons per day. That's for 2025. We're projecting that in five in 10 years in 2035 that is going to be 17.65 million gallons per day and in 2045 it would be 18.4. However, those are finished water like the water that you actually consume. But there is some loss in the treatment in order to produce that water. It it's it is a natural component of the water supply. So those numbers are not the only amounts that the city requires for treatment. So an average an average ratio of raw or

untreated water to that finished water was historically calculated as 1.07. So 7% of the water is basically lost in in the treatment that is a historical index in the city. Okay. So in the past water supply facility work plan updates the city had used this ratio to project raw water demand untreated water demand through the planning horizon. However, due to the advent of of the of the N well the national portable drinking water revision for PAS most known as NPDWR I'm not going to say that again for treatment of PAS it is expected that this ratio will change in the future yielding the need for increased raw water demand. So we need more water. If you if you take a look at the plot, I know it's small. The this the light blue portion is the finished water demand. Then the water the raw water needed before the PAS regulation is the dark blue line that you see on top of it. The estimated raw water needed for PAS regulation compliance is the brown line above all of them. And then you have a great comparison which is the supply. The red line is our water use permit. And you see two lines. Perhaps you can't see the the dashed one. The red one is the permitted total allocation to the city in the water use permit. The dash line was a condition a condition of that water use permit that the district had imposed into in into the utility department and the city.

That um condition has been met and that condition applied to how much water the eastern wellfield could produce on a seasonal basis. the the the the seasonal use that I explained prior that was the condition that was applied to that. Therefore, as you can see, the supply needs to be higher for the city to be able to treat the the water to a level that is consistent with the PAS regulations. The city plans to pursue a water use permit modification consistent with water treatment plan upgrades for PAS compliance and with proposed comp plan and consistent also with this proposed comp plan amendment. Any questions up to there? Okay, that is the biggest component of the water supply plan and how we want to move forward. Other important reported accomplishments of the plan are the reuse water system and conservation. The city's reuse facility, also known as Oasis, which stands for our alternative supply irrigation system, has a current rated capacity of 7.5 million gallons per day. And this is reuse water. So we the city takes water from waste water from wastewater from Broward County waste water and wastewater services and treats it to standards that um me meet public access reuse standards and that water is is uh applied to

irrigation in areas where the reuse distribution system is currently installed. There are very good news reported in that plan because the number of total connections has increased by 70% since the last reported count in the 2020 water supply plan. That's a major accomplishment. The reused water demand currently is 2.57 million gallons per day and it is expected that in 2045 it is 4.11 million gallons per day. That's according to the reuse master plan prepared this past year by the utilities department and future expansion of the reuse water distribution system is planned per the 2025 reuse master plan again and reported in the water supply plan to the district as one more means of alternative water supply which is one of the conditions that they do want to hear from every municipality. The other large accomplishment is conservation. The city has 16 active conservation programs. If you want a benchmark, that is a record. The majority of these programs are aimed at educating and bring awareness to its population and its residents. And um it's worthy of mentioning that like you said in that question that you asked, we believe as engineers calculating these numbers that re that conservation and reuse has helped in and many other factors has helped to reduce the per capita use from

170 gallons per day in 2015 to now 141 gallons per day per cap. capital. One thing to note is that conservation measures are built into the city's water use permit. So, the district does care about that and that's why it's worthy um to mention because it's admirable in my point of view and a testament to the great conscious efforts that the city and the utilities department and with other departments have placed into conservation. with that. Um, any questions?

Miss King, I have a couple questions. Um, the I heard you mention I see that the capital improvement plan I guess is for 5 years, 10 years, 30 years. I can't keep up that far, but let's just go on the five years. Would that include the new projects that are already on the horizon? Correct. It's the water supply related projects that have been um reviewed to be in compliance with the district's requirements. Correct.

Okay. And I'm not sure of the budget, but how does this play out to the residents? I know before there was maybe last year there was like a $10 increase if I'm not mistaken on the uh water bill for the residents and that was very difficult for some people to make that adjustment. So I see a lot of information on here about expansion and um new this and new equipment. So who eats that cost? So I I would like to invite Reuka, utilities director to the microphone to answer those questions.

So good evening. Reuka Muhammad, the utilities director for the city of PMPO Beach. um those costs for the improvement and I will say most of them are unmandated well mandated costs that we have to absorb as the utility they do come from the rateayers. So when we take a look at PAS and the upgrade to the treatment from lime softening to nanopiltration membrane yes uh the city did go through and they did adopt um the rate increase. So there's a series of rate increase I think that was going that has been adopted through either 28 or 29 to be able to fund the expansion of the membrane treatment to meet the PAS. So, is this information already available to residents?

I'm sorry. Is this some I'm sorry. Go ahead. Oh, is this information already available to residents? Um, before at the commission meeting, some people seemed um somewhat surprised when they got the increase. Some people say that they were not aware of it. So, is there I mean I figure Yes, there was a there were uh ordinance uh two readings uh for the adoption. Uh the first series of bonds was in 2024. so we can provide that information for you.

Thank you, Mr. Hartzel. I have [clears throat] two questions. One is on Oasis is um what is the current percentage of the overall capacity of the reuse system? Where are we at? Are we effectively using it or are we Is it a low percentage now or are we at capacity?

We are not at capacity. We are about I would say anywhere between 50 to 60%. So we average about three and a half MGDs um for usage right now. Um the capacity is based on the supply that we get from the county um because we are taking it off of their ocean outline and it also uh funding to make those connections. So the Oasis program primarily serves um for the the eastern wellfield to keep that saltwater line. That was the initial impetus of this program. Uh there was saltwater intrusion and uh to the eastern wellfield that threatened that wellfield that the city of Pmpo Beach could not produce um drinking water from those wellfields. So most of the reuse has been on the eastern side of the system to be able to hold that saltwater line at bay. So we are able to withdraw from the eastern wellfield. Most of the connections are mandatory right now with the city of Lighthouse Point. And then there's some um that the city of Pmpo Beach has that we're implementing right now for Hillsboro Harbor. My second question was I think it was last month we had a gentleman come in and say that because of the approvals of development that have gone through in Pompa that his water pressure was down. [clears throat] Is there any equivalence to water pressure in the

No, not for are you talking about the drinking water system or the reuse? I think he was like his showers were lower or something. Okay. But is there any correlation between the two? No. No. I mean the system pressure leaving the plant is about 80 PSI. Again, by the time we reach the end of the system, it may reach up to 70 or go down to 70. But if there is a if a customer is experiencing that a pressure loss, yes, you can certainly call the utilities and we will have someone respond to it. Okay.

Okay. Um, M. Worley, you had a a question. Thank you. Um I just noticed something on there and I just wanted a clarification. It did did say that the population projection was going to go down with our neighbor neighbors. Is that accurate and and why? And then the second part would be what happens if we underestimate those numbers. You want to speak to that?

Yeah, it was a good catch. the the lighthouse point population projection in that table comes from the Brow County uh forecasting model and it does pre view some migration in that city. some percentage is served by the city and if we keep the same density as as they project that that same rate of or negative rate of growth impacts the city as well.

Okay. Okay. So then my followup would be if that's not the case and and the population does grow, what happens with this whole model?

And it may very well be. We have we have heard that it is it might not be the case because the BAM model and we were talking with with Gene about that with Miss Dolan about that. they may be dropping population out because there's no more vacancy in in within those territories. So they may be just dropping out. But the thing is there's vertical development and may very well be increasing. So those are models, forecasting models. We are very lucky that this plan and everything in utilities is updated regularly. So we will be able to catch that and also every development that comes into the city is into the service area is very um scrutinized is very well scrutinized by by planning and also by utilities. You know, there's an ordinance built in the code and we'll be able to catch if there's more population coming in and more water needed that than or raw water supply needed than we were expecting.

Um that we don't service the entire city of Lighthouse Point, just 400 homes in the southern end. Correct. That's correct. It's it's just a portion. Yeah, it's just the southern southernuh southern part. And um it's anecdotal, but I hear that um many of those homes are now uh second homes. U they're not as they're not full-time. They're not inhabited full-time because they're second homes for folks or uh even Airbnbs. So, um, it's not as easy to forecast as we used to forecast in certain neighborhoods. I fully agree with you. Yeah.

Other questions? I have just one more. Um, we were to end ocean outfall by the end of 2025. Have we done that? Yes. It's a very positive answer and it's very objective. Yes. Okay. Thank you. and thank you for your any other questions. So, thank you so much. I do want to add to that. So, the city of PMPO Beach does not

we don't we don't directly um go to ocean outfall, right? Um we are dependent on Broward County Wastewater Services. Uh they own the ocean outfall line. Broward County has not stopped ocean outfall. Um we have been working with the county and with FD um to to reach a resolution on that because if they had stopped then our reuse facility would be shut down.

So we have been working through that process with them and with FD um they are still allowed to use the outfall and we are still supplying our reuse plant through them. Um there is a long-term plan to build an alternate line to feed the Oasis um facility directly. So again, all of that is in process, but the outfall is still open. Okay. Thank you. Um any other questions? Um do we um Mr. Attorney, do we need to adopt this recommend this to the commission? Miss Dolan has provided uh two Two alternative motions. Yes. Okay.

All right. Madam Chair, before we do that, does this need to be open for public comment? Oh, I'm so sorry. Um, yes. Anyone from the audience wish to speak uh on um on this item? Okay, seeing none, M. Dolan, do you have anything? Oh, I'm so sorry, Mr. Phillips. name and address for the record, please.

Name is Ed Phillips. I currently reside at 384 Northwest 19th Street, Pompo Beach. Um, Madame Chair, um, members, first of all, let me say it was a little bit confusing as I tried to understand the dynamics of what was going on. Having said that, my real question is when you talk about water treatment, what how are you treating it? What are you utilizing? chemicals, is it mechanical? What is what is the treatment process? Is it anything that is going to harm us as we use was it uh portable water or retreated water? Is it anything that going to harm us? Because throwing the word around about treatment and I that kind of causes me some pause here.

Okay. So, let me clarify. Right. So, this plan there are two components. One is the portable water which in layman terms is the drinking water. That's the part they're concerned about. Okay. So drinking water um that that that's the the major element of this plan. Um so that the to produce drinking water, right? We have the aquifer. So we withdraw that water and we do treat it to drinking water standards.

What is treated mean? What? So treated is that we take the the raw water from the aquifer and we either lime softened it, you know, which is the traditional treatment here in South Florida and we also have membrane treatment. So the city of PMPO Beach currently has two treatment process at their facilities and these two streams of water that we treat, you know, we we put them together, we combine them and then we send them out to our customers. So there's no chemicals. there is chemicals and that's the part I'm trying to

so yes so the slime softening process you know we again we the water in South Florida is what we called very hard so there is you know when if you take the raw water and you you touch it there is no um there's a lots of scale and residue on it so our process is to take that out so what we do we we soften the water so it becomes drinkable and as part of that process obviously We add chemicals like chlorine because we have to disinfect to meet the drinking water standards and there may be some other chem chemicals that we add in order to meet drinking water standards. So there's chlorine.

Okay. Because you got to the maybe some other chemicals and I don't want to, you know, bellay this process. But I did want to understand when she start talking about chemicals and I and I need to digress and say this thing about reducing water and from what is it 161 I'm almost like I don't understand with all this growth going on uh that anybody can tell me that we're reducing anything. Um so it is it is a per person usage. Yes. Uh Mr. Phil Phillips I heard the part you said about lighthouse point and I understood the dynamics.

No but I mean it is the reduction is from 161 gallons per person to 141 per person. So the formula has different numbers in it. It's it's because of the conservation and the fact that we're using re reuse now for sprinklers only. The reuse water is sprinklers only. Um uh that is lowering the demand per person. Now I I think I'm testifying here and I need to quit that. Yes, that that is correct.

Well well I got to tell you something, you know, and again I'm going to sit down here because you didn't completely do the treatment thing and I and I digressed a little bit but no matter how you explain it to me based on the growth that I've perceived that I see the amount of water per person, I don't know about it going down. not the the need for water over here. The need for water is going up, but the per person usage is going down. So, right. So, and so and so what happens is you're saying the overall capacity of the amount of water that we utilize in Pompo goes down. No, that's the part I want to understand. No. Okay.

I'm gonna let you testify quickly. [laughter] So, so generally right you know um historically right everybody uses a certain you know a certain amount of water right the overall capacity is overall

so we as utilities you know we we we issued this permit for the district and that district has certain limitations. So as population increases, you know, we have to meet that demand as utilities. We have to be able to provide for that population growth. By the same token, we are working to educate residents and customers and businesses what they can do to reduce their demand individually. So we have programs like the reuse. So people who are on the reuse program, they're not going to use drinking water to irrigate their lawns, right? they're going to use the reuse supply if it's available to them. Similarly, um there are water saving devices like you know

I I got you and talk about reuse. I remember when we started that process, a lot of that was that reuse water uh for lawn services was supposed to come No, it was supposed to uh filter into the Northwest. Somehow that never really happened. But having said that, uh I think you may have gotten my point. My point here is that I do not understand how uh the overall capacity in some shape, form or manner appears to go down. And I say the overall capacity, not the per use, per person seem to go down because I just can't buy that animal. But having said that, congratulations on your presentation. Uh if you pass it, I'm sure you will. You did hear my questions and my concerns. Thank you.

Thank you, sir. Anyone else? Close the public hearing. Oh, I'm sorry. Come on down. Just state your name and address, please. Jordan, 590 Northwest into the microphone, please. Anthony Jordan, 590 Northwest 21st Court, PPO Beach, Florida. I didn't come here for this, but since you're talking about it, you cannot tell me whatever you guys are doing did not mess with the pressure in Liberty Park water. Saturday. I've been having problem with my pressure in my water in my house for a while. I went to Mr. Wright to try to find Mr. Wright. He's a plumber. Come check my water system.

The pressure is so low I can hardly water my grass. Have upstairs. My mom can't hardly take a shower in the house now. So, let me get your address and your contact information and we will have someone come out there. Not only that, my sink was running so low pressure. Mr. right? Told me to take the knob off the end of the the sink, the faucet. And when I took that knob off, all that junk came out of there. I couldn't believe it. So, how is y'all filtering the water if all that's coming towards me? I got a problem with that.

So, you have to remember, right, the the system is active. It's open. Every time you open a faucet, it's going to come out. We have all these pipes underground, everything that's moving. We also what what we do Yeah. every anytime we may have construction in the system. If there's construction or if there is a main break, it's going to dislodge stuff from the system and that is going to end up yes at at somebody's faucet. So, normally if there's some type of service, we will put something out and notice letting people know that they have to flush for maybe a minute or two to get all that stuff out. But yes,

I don't know what happened in your area. So that's why I'm asking for your address so we could you know if we did have an incident then yes we would definitely ask customers to do that. The last question all this recyclable water the north the south the east and the west and the center pumpo everybody getting the same water. Yes, it's it's I just heard you say if you are able to get the water reuse it's different drinking water. Everybody gets the exact same drinking water no matter where you live. If you are served by the city of Pmpo Beach utilities, it is all leaving one plant and going out to all our residents. Okay. Yes.

590 Mhm. Northwest 21st Court Pump and this happened Saturday. Saturday. Okay. Thank you. I have Thank you. I'm going to ask one more time. Anybody else want to speak on this issue? I'm going to close the public hearing. Um any more board discussion on this item? Will it entertain a motion? Madam chair, I'll make a motion that the board um finds competent substantial evidence uh the comprehensive text plan amendment for the water supply and update ln-832. Okay,

option one. Miss King, if you would read the item. Look, I think it's in front of you. Oh, okay. Great. Easy. Thank you. Motion to recommend approval for the proposed policy amendments to support the implementation of the 2025 water supply plan as the board finds the proposed amendments meet the requirements of section 163.3177 Florida statutes and the 2024 SFWMD lore east coast water supply plan update. Is there a second? Second. Bobby, would you call the role? Tundra King? Yes. Robert Hartzo? Yes. Paul Fischer? Yes. David Mingus? Yes.

Arian Warley? Yes. Carla Coleman? Yes. Thank you so much for your presentation.

Okay. Next item. Item LN831. Uh PNZ number 2512430 major site plan Stanton. We're glad to see you this evening. Good evening. Thank you chairman Coleman. Chairperson Coleman. This is the first 95 distribution center uh major site plan. Yes, it is

phase two.

And this is the project location. It can be accessed from two side streets off MLK Boulevard, which is a few blocks to the south of the site. Uh, and the site is visible from you on the the slide you can see I 95. I hope you can see I 95 to the east and then on the west and the north is an FEC railway spur. And then to the north of the the railway spur is more warehouse um industrial warehouse building as is to the west of the railway. Um there's a concrete plant and here is the site plan. uh showing the project layout, two large industrial buildings and loading areas, loading docks between the two buildings and the parking and landscape along the perimeter of the site. The zoning designation is general industrial and the land use is also industrial. [clears throat] Excuse me. The proposed use falls under the category of warehouse distribution and storage. The buildings are each one story with a height of 43 feet to the top of the roof and about 40 excuse me 51 12 feet to the top of the highest point of the tallest point of the parapit. The proposed project was reviewed by the development review committee on October 1st and November 19th, 2025 and the building design was approved by the architectural appearance committee on uh January 6th of this year. Here's the east elevation of building B, uh, closest to I95. And this is the portion that's facing or the facade that's facing I 95. Building A to the west of this one looks the same as this building. Um, just it's just a tad shorter in building length. Um, the appearance of course was approved the beginning of this month in the

warehouse. It's a warehouse building, modern in appearance. Let's see. I'm showing these south elevations of both buildings only because these are the two facads uh that face the two streets by which one can enter the site albeit at the dead end of those two streets. There is no city street that runs along the south which is the front of the property. They head directly into the and then dead end at the front of the site. Here are the major site plan review standards um that are listed here. And the information on how these standards have been met is in this staff report and the drawings and documents that have been uploaded to your backup folder. With that brief presentation, should the board find the application has provided competent substantial evidence to satisfy the review standards for a major site plan approval, the development services department recommends that the following conditions be included. One, amend amend the 20 foot access easement to align with the proposed driveway at the northeast corner of the property and follow the length of the driveway to the south end of the site or revise the plans to provide an alignment of the driveway with the existing easement. Two, provide a copy of the recorded crossax easement between the subject property and the property to the northeast for access to the existing billboard for maintenance. Three is last. the standard conditions of approval required prior to building permit and/or zoning compliance permit issuance. That concludes my brief presentation and overview of the first 95 center major site plan distribution center major site plan application. I can answer any

questions you may have about the site plan. The applicant is here as well with a brief presentation. Any questions for staff before we hear the applicant? Okay, thank you. Yes, let me close out of that. Very good. This is our new clicker.

Thank you. Good evening. Um, as Pam mentioned, this is a brief presentation. Um, your name.

I'm sorry. Join Aldez, 301 East, uh, Atlantic Boulevard. Um, as Pam mentioned, this tonight we're requesting a major site plan approval for the First 95 distribution center. Um, a little background on the developer. It's uh, First Industrial. They own, operate, and develop logistic industrial properties nationwide. Um, they own approximately 70.4 4 million square footage nationwide that they own and develop. Um, and they have a couple of projects that have gotten site plan approval throughout Pompo and that have been in front of this board. Um, actually directly to the north we have phase one of this project. Um, so the existing site is located northwest 12 terrace with an I1 uh zoning district. Um, and it consists of 19.38 acres and the surrounding uses are similar of I1. Um we are requesting two warehouse buildings uh approximately 315,000 square feet providing 300 a little bit over 300 parking spaces and um just a little bit over 104 loading spaces. Um the loading is provided in interior courtyard style um screening the view from the surroundings and from I95. Um, and here are just a couple renders from the southwest elevation and from the west elevation as well. That is it.

Okay. Can you tell me how let's open it up to the board before I do any questioning? Any questions for the applicant? Okay.

I think um we have to ask them whether they agree with the conditions. Yes, we do. I I will. Um I was going to wait until after the public hearing to see if we have any more conditions. Okay. Um uh Okay. Well, none seeing no questions at this time other than I'll ask one. Um I looked at your landscaping plan um and it is um quite ambitious. So, we appreciate that. Even though it is an industrial area, this will be seen from I95 by a lot of folks. So, uh, as tall as you can make those trees, please do. Um, uh, I'm going to open this up for public hearing now. Does anyone from the audience want to talk on this project?

Whenever I can. Ed 34 Northwest 19th Street, PMO Beach. whenever I can on projects like this and I'm very adamant about this. Somehow, some way, some shape, some manner, someone needs to indicate if you're going to build a project like this, attempt to to the best of your abilities, hire some folks who live here. We have too many of these projects that come into the area and they do not actively go out and try to find people who live here to work. Um, I want to scream and holler because there are not enough folks saying that. We got a whole bunch of folks running around here homeless and not all of them aren't stupid, crazy, and on drugs. They can't find jobs. So, do what you can to whenever you can to try to ensure that projects like this, and I hope the folks who are developing, hear me, find some people who live here to work here. Thank you.

Thank you. Anyone else? Um, do you I I want to ask one more question. Do you Is this all on spec or do you know what companies may or may not move in here? Um, at this time we aren't aware of the future tenants. Okay. You don't know what the tenency is yet. Okay. All right. Any other qu I'm going to close the public hearing. Uh, and now I'm going to ask, do you a does your client agree to the three conditions? Yes. Thank you. Um, any other discussion from the board? Hearing none, uh, Mr. Atkins, please call the role.

Well, we need a motion. Oh, that's true. We do. Sorry about that. Uh, we'll I'll entertain a motion to approve this or disapprove or do something with this project. Mr. Chartzel in consideration of PNZ application 251200 030 I move that the board finds that there's competent substantial evidence has been presented that satisfies the review criteria and approves the major site plan with along with the conditions provided by staff. Second.

We have a motion and a second. Uh, now call the role, please. Albert Hartzo, yes. King, yes. Paul Fischer, yes. Mingus, yes. Kerian Warley, yes. Carla Coleman,

yes. Good luck. Um, is the board all right? Do we need a break before we go into the last uh item here or we're good? We're good. Okay. We have lots of folks here tonight who are interested in this item and and many who want to speak on it that have been sworn in. If you came in late and have not been sworn in and um want to speak on the item, come on up. Just tell us you haven't been sworn in and Mr. Atkins will swear you in. But um I'd like to now call item NL818 atly Clove Reszoning PNZ number 2513503. Thank you chair Gan Dolan development services

first madam chair um if are we going to allocate a time limit on which people can speak everyone will have three minutes to speak when they come to the podium you have a clock here that tells you how much you've got uh time left I know many of you have been here before so you know that but if anyone hasn't been Thank you uh Mr. chart. So, that's a good point. Uh you will have three minutes maximum to speak and um uh please try to to make sure uh that we're not hearing the same thing over and over. If you've got something new to add, we want to hear from you. We want to know how you feel about this project. So, stand Miss Dolan here.

Jean Dolan Development Services. This is a request by the PMPO Beach Housing Authority to use county policy 2163 to increase the underlying land use density of an 8.2 acre parcel surrounded by Kendall Lakes, Liberty Park, and Sanders Park from 41 units to 96 units, which is approximately 12 dwelling units per acre, and to reszone the parcel to RM12. This site is eligible for the use of policy 2163 and is actually an excellent example of how this policy can be used to constructively encourage and reduce the process costs of providing affordable housing by eliminating the need for a land use plan amendment to increase density of the site. Given the density bonus formulas in county policy 2163, only 10 of the 41 units by right would need to be restricted to low-income affordable for 30 years to generate the requested increase in entitlements. The housing authority will be restricting 100% of the future 96 housing units to lowincome affordable, which is 50 to 80% of area medium income. This income range is not typically served by the private sector when they build housing. Though the location of this site is surrounded by single family homes at a lower density, the tract is big enough to eliminate spot zoning concerns, allow for adequate perimeter buffering, and the RM12 zoning district being requested is restricted to the same 35- ft height limit that applies to the surrounding neighborhoods. Staff will ensure the future site plan for the property delivers a design compatible with the surrounding area. staff finds there is substantial evidence that the policy that the use of policy 2163 and the reasonzoning to RM12 is consistent with the underlying land use designation and is supported by the goals, objectives, and policies in the comprehensive plan as specified in the staff report. The staff recommends approval with the

following condition. By the time of building permit, record a declaration of restrictive covenants to ensure at least 10 of the proposed units will be deeed restricted to low-income affordable housing for at least 30 years and the maximum development of the site will not exceed the proposed 96 units. That concludes staff's presentation and the applicant will also be making a presentation and I can answer any questions you have for me now or we can have questions after the applicant. Would you like to wait till after the applicant? Okay. Thank you.

Yeah. Uh Jocelyn Aldez, 301 East Atlantic. Um, tonight we are requesting a resoning approval for Adderly Cove located at Northwest 16th Court. Oh, can you see it? There you go. Um, the site is located at Northwest 16th Court. Um and just to the west, the property is also owned by the housing authority and it received site plan approval in 2023 um for single family residential development. Um this is the site. It's currently loc it's currently zoned as an RD1 um with the surrounding uses of residential as well. Uh this site is 8.64 acres and is has a permitted density of 43 units. Um tonight's request is to reszone from RD1 to RM12. Um and using the Broward County policy density bonus policy um to request 96 units total. Um all units will be affordable and compatible with the surrounding single family residential uses. Thank you.

Okay. Any questions uh at this time from the board? Okay, thank you. We're going to open the public hearing at this point. So, who wants to be first? [clears throat]

Uh, have you been sworn in? Yes, I was. Okay. Name and address, please. Elizabeth Massie, 540 Northwest 18th Street, Pompo Beach 33060. I rise to the board and thank you madam chair uh to really oppose this project as far as changing. We have been the victims of bait and switch from the housing authority before in in different projects. And what my concern this time is if we change this from single family homes for to the two to multiple if they decide later that they want to come back and do apartment buildings and anything else in that area they don't have to come back anymore to you. Is that correct? Um, Miss Dolan, would you speak to that?

They do have to come back with a site plan regardless of the building type,

but they don't have to reszone it again. That's what I'm saying. It's going to be zone. It will be zoning and you we usually don't go down with zoning. We continue. So, our concern is if if you really want to do affordable homes, you have the zoning there. The project was there for many years. That that area has a oneway in and one way out. You're going to go from 40 something to 90 something and and above in the more that that road there is the same road from 1960. There is no turn lanes. There's nothing right now to get out in and out because behind it on both sides, the east and the west is is a housing development. So there's no there's no plan to build any other entrance or exits. You know, we we talked about the water pressure. They say it don't exist. we can tell you that it does exist already in our area. So now you're talking about putting all these additional people with no changes to the infrastructure and and that it's going to be okay. We are for affordable homes, but do the single family homes which is already zoned for and build what was there before. Uh to to to do anything other than that is going to be increasing that density to the point that it becomes an unattractive area and it also impacts our the value of our homes. Thank you.

Thank you. [applause]

Have you been sworn in, sir? Yes, I have. Name and address for the record, please.

Yes. Name is Robert Kinchin, 673 Northwest 20th Court, PMPO Beach, Florida. I thank my friend for coming up. We were all raised in this area together. Uh I come to come against this zone and say it should not be changed and I want to thank you for the opportunity to speak. I want to be clear at the start. This is not an argument against growth, progress or people. This is an argument for appropriate development, community stability, and responsible planning. Our neighborhood was intentionally zoned for single family and dual family homes. Families moved here, invested here, built their lives here based on that understanding. Changing the zone to allow 96 units multifamily development fundamentally alters the character and function of this area. First, there is the issue of infrastructure. Our roads, traffic patterns, parking, drainage, utilities were not designed to support the density of a 96 unit complex. Increased congestion, safety concerns, emergency response, delay, and parking allow overflow will affect not just future residents, but the people already there. Secondly, there is the impact on property value and neighborhood stability. Homeowners made long-term financial commitments based on the current zoning. A dynamic density increase can negatively affect property values and discourage future investments, weakening the long-term health of the community. Third, there is

a matter of precedence. If this zoning change is approved here, it signals that existing zoning protection can be overridden, open the door for similar developments throughout established residential neighborhoods that will erode the public trust and planning process. Lastly, growth should be balanced and intentional. Multifamily housing obviously have a place But it should be located where infrastructure, transit, and services are already designed to support high density, not insert into a neighborhood built for lowdensity living. In closing, this is not about stopping progress. It's about honoring the original zoning that protects the residents and ensure development service current both future and now. I respectfully say we do not need to change this. We need single family homes. We have young people who are trying to come back to Pompino in the northwest section. And because we don't have any place where they can come and start with affordable housing, they have to go other places. We want our children to come back home. Thank you.

Thank you. [applause] Good evening. My name is Charles Mccclure and I reside at 331 Northwest 16th Street, Pumpino Beach. I strongly oppose this housing uh project uh due to the simple fact that um we are in a single family dwelling place and to bring in 96 units will impact our traffic. you're bringing on at least 200 extra cars. And what do we what we call affordable housing? I totally disagree with what you call affordable housing because our people cannot afford these types of uh projects. Uh it's designed to bring other people's in. I'm going to be honest with you and move us out. See, we we love our community. I moved in my community because of the the beauty that Pompo had about over little over 20 years ago. And now with the overdevelopment Pompino is doing, it's unjust to the people in Sanders Park. Look at Dixon Highway. Look at our surrounding where we live at. You're raising these highrises and you're saying it's a affordable housing, but our people cannot afford these. My kids cannot afford to live in a a $2,300 apartment or whatever you call it. It's it's an injust when you bring those cars down my street. I have kids that that plays out on the sidewalk cars constantly running over in the yard out of the curve and it's just it's it's ridiculous. And I really appreciate if you have the compassion for the people of Sanders Park and the surrounding communities and and and do not uh uh allow this development to grow up because we need single family homes that people can take pride in and have the American dream as far as having something they can call their own. So I

strongly oppose this because housing has not been truthful with us and that's the truth. So do with all respect I strongly oppose this move. Thank you so much. Thank you. [applause]

We'll get through this a lot quicker if we just hold your applause to the end. Have you been sworn in? Yes. 590 Northwest 21st Court Pollo Beach, Florida. Just one question. And what was your name, sir? Anthony Jordan. Thank you, sir. Thank you. How much would one cost? You say affordable. What you mean by it? Just the price. Um at the We don't want it. If you can answer the question, we don't need it. [applause]

This is the reason I came. I'm kind of reluctant, but here it goes. My name is Ed Phillips. I currently reside at 384 Northwest 19th Street, Pompo Beach. I'm a resident of Kendall Lakes. Hold on. Let's be respectful in here.

I'm a resident of Kendall Lakes Homes Association. I'm residents of Kendall Lake since 1989. This property would abut Kendall Lakes. [clears throat] Let me start out by saying I really am a little disappointed in housing authority. And the reason I say that is because and And it has nothing to do personally. It's just my opinion about my disappointment. The people who are on that board live here. And so they know the history of Elia Estates. Elilia Estates was a low income, not affordable housing. It was a lowincome housing area that produced an awful lot of good children and good people who went to schools to like Sanders Park and Bland Sheila. And so I was taken a back and I said I I'm as humus when she said that we would ensure that 10% of this development would go to lowincome individuals. What a croc. I I gotta tell you that was not the intention of this property. I think that folks have lost focus in terms of the intention of this property. This board, yours is not a moral perspective, but mine isn't. So, you have to listen to me. You have to hear what I am saying. The property is there for lowincome individuals, not affordable housing. Affordable housing, as the gentleman indicated, has been a dagger in our backs, those folks who live here, because it has not been what it's supposed to be for us. It is a national standard created by those folks who don't live in our area and who don't understand the folks who live here. Having said that, you can already hear

that I am vently opposed to this. You know, EPA Lawkins, I used to hear him always say continu contiguous. It has nothing to do with nothing else around us as you reszone this property. Uniformity. There's no uniformity here. We have single family homes, residential homes all around. Every now and then a sprinkle of duplexes or apartments. The original apartments were duplexes. Excuse me. Houses were duplexes. You start talking about the increased density. They've already told you about the infrastructure. One way in, one way out. You talk about traffic, that study has gone away. Bring some of those studies back. As I close, because I see the time here, I'm very disappointed in the housing authority. They appear to have lost their way in terms of who they represent and the people they're supposed to be serving. Thank you.

Thank you. [applause] Madam Madam Chair, just as a recommendation, if there are others who may want to speak, you may want to ask them to come so they can sort of sit in these front seats so it makes it a lot easier to move from one person to the next. Thank you. Would you please do that? If you uh you want to speak on this item, come on down front so we can move it along and get you home as well as us home tonight. You have not been sworn in, correct? Please raise your right hand for me. Do you swear or affirm that the evidence you're about to give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? Thank you, sir. Uh, your name and address for the record, please.

My name is uh Larry Slappy, 1701 Northwest Fifth Avenue. I'm sorry, voice is not right right now, but what I'm about to say is right. When you went over that string, you went so fast. A lot of people didn't catch it. But you have to look at what the intent is and what your heart says. You want to reszone, you want to take it from a RD1 and put it into a RD12. And then you're going to tell us it's going to be town homes. But if you look back over by Elely High School, that development, that huge building, can you speak in the mic, please?

Is an RD12. So you can tell us one thing, like the young lady said, and do something different. Also, this is uh 8.34 acres that one side. If you get yourself in on the foothold of that, that'll be an easy step to go into the 11 acres which is next to it. You never talked about the dedication. What you don't understand, they have to dedicate certain parts for streets. So now that eight acres that you want to put on is no longer eight acres. is 7 point something acres and now you're telling me 96 units is going to go into that little 7 something acres. The only way you can do that is go higher. So as you go higher now the density goes in and everything you said falls apart. You have to understand what they say and what they print is two different things. So once they tell you you're going to do town homes and then they say, "Oh, we couldn't do the town homes." But like that beautiful young lady said,

you already got the zoning. So now you can come back and do whatever. You got yourself a foothold in that one. You go and get the other one. Trust is a lot, but what you put on paper, we can read through that and understand what you're trying to do. Thank you very much, sir. You're next. You're next. I need some insight as to Sir, have you been sworn in? [snorts]

Do you swear or affirm that the evidence you're about to give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. So help me God. And um just raise the mic for me because you're a tall fella. And then um the name and address for the record. My name is Barton Smith and um 751 Northwest 17th Street, Pumping Beach, Florida, 33060 City of Pumpino. And your name? Here's Bobby Atkins.

Bobby Atkins. Okay, good. So, I just need a little bit more insight from this whole ideology. Anybody care to share? Sir, what is your question? I need a little more insight of this whole ideology as far as the properties are concerns. Okay, let let me stop you there and say that this is a zoning board. Yes. Uh from the city of Pompo Beach.

We hear applications and in this case for a reasonzoning. It's from the housing authority staff and their consultant has made their presentation. We want to hear from you as an audience and we don't have an ideology. We make a decision based on the testimony we've heard tonight. Okay. Now, my attorney, I would like for you to clarify anything that I got wrong.

No, you you you were correct. The only thing I would add to that is the board tonight um whichever decisions made will be making recommendation to the city commission. So, there is not a finality uh in what takes place tonight. that item, however it goes, whether it is supported or unsupported, it will go from this group to the city commission for consideration. Okay. And madam.

Yes, sir. you're proposing or your um implying or questionability is to as to um the what we know as the projects of uh Liberty Park uh from Liberty Park. You're saying you want you want to have a variance from that. Go ahead.

No, sir. We're not saying anything yet. We're hearing testimony from you, from the folks at the podium over here, and then we will discuss and and vote this proposal up or down or ask for more information. Okay. Most of our constituents are not present as you can see. Okay. Um there's a lot there's a lot more people that would be interested in this decision. Okay. Um, but we in the sense of Liberty Park, East States,

I'm not born there, but from two years of age, uh, a resident, and I'm the 11th of 13 siblings. Um, my mother was a immigrant from the point of view of uh the Bahamas and she found her way when my particular my mother was she died my mother mother died when I was when she was uh 3 months old in child birth. This is all I know. Okay? I've grown and I've become the person that I am through all my struggles. From that point of view, okay? I've raised children. I've raised sons. I've raised, you know, I've been married for 25 years and divorced. All I'm saying to you is this here. We need stability. We need not a multi- uh family complex there. We need more homing. We need more um people that Yes. single family homes there. We do not need a prosperity plan for and and don't hold this to me. We do not need a a a prosperity plan from the point of view of um making things more uh presentable for the city. We need more of a organized type of a um u place and point of view of families.

Thank you. Okay. We don't need to have just people being able to come and and play and and all of this here. So maybe my time is up if that's what that is. But but my point is this here. I'm not for this here whole idea of multi- complex family housing. Okay. All right. Thank you. Okay. And the next the next speaker after this one, would you come on down front so we can we can hear from you quickly too? Jordan, 590 Northwest 21st Court, PPO Beach, Florida. I just heard something that disturbed me. You said that y'all will make the decision.

We recommend to the city commission. But do you live in Liberty Park? Do you live in Liberty Park? Liberty Park. Liberty Park. Liberty Park. I know where you live at. the park. So, how can you guys go and take something back that you don't know nothing know nothing about? Sir, I appreciate your point of view and I want you to speak. I don't want to take your minutes up. So, um but um we will recommend based off what we hear tonight. It's not It's not that we're trying to take anything from you,

but what I'm trying to say, who you guys going to recommend that to? Shouldn't they be here to hear us? Could we go and talk to them since y'all got to make a recommendation to them and they don't know half the things we said? Well, they Mr. uh Mr. Attorney, they will you will have an opportunity to go to the city commission when this when and if this goes to the city commission. Okay. Would you guys do us justice about this thing? We're not here because we just want to look at you guys. We concerned about our neighborhood. Thank you. And you will see my face more here. Thank you. [applause]

Does anyone else want to speak on this item? Have you been sworn in? Yes. Okay. Just your name and address, please.

Hi, I'm Marcia Wise. I stay at 341 Northwest 16th Street in Pompo Beach, Florida. Um, I bought my house in 2017 from the city of Pompo as a first home buyer. Um, I'm not in agreements of this cuz when I purchased my home, I was excited. I love the community that I was in. I I wasn't even from the city of Pompo. When I came here, my neighbors, Mr. Charles, who spoke very well on our behalf very people been here for years and I felt the warmth when I purchased it from the city of Pompo. I did have some issues in my home where I had to go to the the city to get some corrections done. Had to fight to get it done, but they they finally came out and fixed it. I love where I stay. I have three beautiful children, which one passed in in 2017. I'm sorry. I did purchase my house in 2014. I'm sorry, but I lost my daughter in the city of Pompo in 2017, right around the corner from where I stay. I do not agree with this. I love my community. As you can see, we all are. We all love our community. I'm just asking y'all to have mercy on this appeal from the city. Um, and that's all I have to say. Thank you.

Thank you. [applause] HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN IN, SIR? YES. Name and address, please.

Vernon Robinson, 2000 Northwest 6th Avenue, Pumping Beach. My family moved here in 1962. 1962. They paid $13,000 for the house owned at 2000 Northwest 6th Avenue. My parents raised 11 kids. And what bothers me is a lot of of people don't understand the impact of Liberty Park, Ilia State, Sanders Park, Pompeo Terrace. We have roots here. We done seen this place grow. I am the second generation to that house. I raised my kids in that house that raised 11 kids. And I would and I'm strongly opposed this change in to me in the 11th hour. It shouldn't be like that. Let's keep it the way it is, the way it was signed in the beginning. Thank you.

Thank you. Have you been sworn in? Yes, I have. And your name and address, please?

My name is Betty Burton, 1740 Northwest Fifth Avenue. Um, I'm standing to request that the zoning remains the same. Um that property has been vacant for so many years and they have been promising us that they is going to you know make single family home and like the guy said at the ninth hour you want to change. I have been in Liberty Park since 1985. I bought my house as a single woman and I've been there since 1985 up until now. I went to school in living uh Sanders Park. I went to Elely High School. From Ele High School, I went to PMPO High School because they closed Elely down. I went off to school, got my degree from Florida&M University. Came back, worked with the city of Pompo, between the city of Pompo Police Department and BSO. I put 39 years in. So, I have seen it all. But I'm requesting that you keep the same zone. It's not fair at the last minute. I don't know who's going to make a profit. I don't know. But it's it's not fair at the last minute to change. We need single family homes. I have nieces and nephews who can't even buy homes here. Uh the homes that they put over on the west side, they say they were going to be affordable. Who can afford $500 and $600,000 home? Nobody. I went off to school. I'm retired. But you think I can buy a house? If I wanted to buy another house, could I buy it? No. So, I'm just asking you all. I know the decision you take back to them. But like the young man said, the people who need to be here to hear us, they're not. But I will be coming if it's on the get on

the uh the next meeting at the commission. I will be here because it's not fair to us. You know, we got young people. I want to see our young people who went off to school come back to Pompo. Don't just, you know, it's like, [applause] it's like that. You're you're taking everything away from us. And it's not fair. You know, I work hard. I was born and raised in Pompo. Would you believe it? I remember on uh Atlantic Boulevard, the hospital was back in the day. going to the hospital seeing uh my auntie we stand you know couldn't go in so we you know stand from the window to see so I have some seen some changes in Pompo and you know just be fair to everybody you know so that's my request and I pray that you all do the right thing I take the right thing back [applause] who's next

good evening my name is Lavar Glenn one moment please one moment Okay. Have you been sworn in, sir? Yes, I have. Uh, your name and address, please. My name is Lavar Glinton. My address is 591 Northwest 21st Court. Thank you. I'm one of those babies in this community. My family is I migrated. You lift the mic just so we can hear you.

I migrated here from the Bahamas. I believe in the strength of a of a community. I'm here tonight because I'm crying for my kids. I need them to have that same pride that these people who have been here decades who've watched Florida develop. My my neighbor told me he watched 95 get built from his house in that community. it. I think we'll be doing the the future of pumping out an injustice to change that community because if we do this, who's going to stop the next developer from coming in and coming to you guys and asking for the same thing? And when we do when we keep on doing it's a snowball effect. And what are we doing in for a profit? How much how much is your soul worth? Can't sell out our kids. Can't do it. Have a good night.

Thank you. [applause] I just want to make sure everybody gets heard. So, and we get home before before bedtime tonight. So, come on down. Come sit sit sit down here if you want to testify next. Have you been sworn in? Yes. Your name and address, please. Um, Robin Thompson, 1880. Well, Robin Wley, 1880 Northwest 5th Terrace, Pumpedo Beach, Florida. Would you pull the microphone down just a little bit? Thank you.

I'm a little nervous. I'm not used to getting up speaking, but I was back there listening to everything and I said I I think I should get up. I just want you all to look at that little the look up there and see where they're talking about building um the apartments. I've been in Liberty Park. U my family was one of the first to move out in Liberty Park in 1959. And um I used to live over there in the projects right next door to my sister and it was like the little apartments. You live right next to each other. I feel a high-rise apartment will do injustice to our community in that spot. And like they said, if you can see, it's only one that little road right there to go in and out. The other is just you going around in a circle to different apartments or whatever. And I really think you all should recommend to the commission that don't um do not reszone the area. Let it stay like it is. We welcome um other you know people to come in but make it presentable like the homes that was was there not the high-rise you know because I think it'll be too much traffic and everything um in that area and I am against it. Thank you.

Thank you. Next. [applause]

Have you been sworn in? Do you swear affirm that the evidence you're about to give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? Yes. Thank you. Uh, your name and address, please. Calvin Jordan, 372 Northwest 16 Court. My problem is is with the congestion. Once it start getting too congested, then you got to figure out how we can decrease it. Now, where I live is Kendall Lakes and I live on a speak into the mic, sir, so we can hear you. Yeah, closer to them.

Dead end, which that if that congestion before you finish the project, you start saying, "Yeah, we're going to have a problem." I live on that dead end. I don't have no houses in that dead end. So, my mind is saying, "What's next? Let's bust this wall down and let's join it. Now that messes with me. I worked all my life and all I wanted was a nice place to sit see my grandchildren play in the front yard. And if you got to bust that wall to make a street to go through there for the for this construction that you're going to be doing this housing. I had to deal with the Mercedes place test driving the cars up and down the road. It was too much. I have to deal with the traffic going up and down Third Avenue too much. So, I hope y'all rethink this. Think about us sometime. Think about us. I hope to retire from the city in two years and I want to be able to sit down in my front lawn and be at peace, not just seeing traffic all day long, back and forth, back and forth. Had problems. I think a while back he want to build um apartments in the back. We had to fight against that. I don't want nobody looking down in my property when I'm trying to relax and I don't need it. And I'm sure you wouldn't want it either. You want to be able to leave your curtains open, get in your backyard, enjoy your family without people looking down, without hearing speed bumps. Now I got to go up. Don't need it. I don't want it. I don't mind progress, but put it in the right place. Think about it. Think about it. God bless you. [applause]

Have you been sworn in? I have. Name and address, please. Whitney Rolls, 550 Northeast 34th Street here in the beautiful city of PPO Beach. Madam Chair, sir, just uh in behind the microphone. Can you hear me now, sir?

Good deal. Appreciate it. Madam Chair, um board members, um I didn't plan on speaking tonight, but I think it's necessary. And let me just say, um I always like to kind of prepare what I'm going to say. Um certainly, it's not the housing authorities's desire to be against this community. I think we've heard a lot a lot of concern and emotion tonight about the housing authorities's past with this community. Um, and I can tell you as chair of the housing authority, um, I'm not happy with what's been said. I'm not happy with what's been said because since I've been on the board, we've been trying to change the tide on what the housing authority has been about to PMPO Beach. And what that clearly means to me is that we got to do a better job. So what I'd like to do is pull this item, take it off your deis, we can come back to our community and we can come up with a better project that suits this community. And I have to say too, [applause] these are my friends behind me.

Some of them are my family members. I grew up in this community. Some of my fraternity brothers. Absolutely. Thank you, brother. And my clergy brothers. Absolutely. So, it just makes sense that that after hearing this testimony tonight, um, and if anybody knows me, you know that I have a heart for responsible redevelopment in the Northwest area, and I want to make sure that everybody is made whole. So, we don't want to dis disenfranchise our community. We don't want to be against our community. I think we can work together to build a product that is suitable to the needs of the families, the existing families in that community. [clears throat] So, we pull this item tonight. Thank you. Yes. THANK YOU.

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THANK YOU. DOES ANYONE else We're still in the middle of a hearing, guys. Um, does anyone else want to speak on this item? No, sir. Seeing none, I'm going to close the public hearing.

Just now the applicant has an opportunity to speak again. Uh you you actually heard from the applicant who would like to go ahead and postpone this item. All right. Um just uh Mike just your name and address please. I'm sorry. Mike Voner Muan with Keith 301 East Atlantic Boulevard PMPO Beach and I have been sworn. Thank you sir. Thank you. Um I'm going to close the public hearing and do we have any questions for the applicant's representative?

M madam chair. Um I just need to clarify what's been said. U Mr. RS came up and said that he's withdrawing the application. I heard Mike Monuan as the agent say that they are postponing. So we need some clarification on what the applicant is going to do is Mr. Mr. Rolls. Where's Mr. Rolls? Just for purposes of the record, I want to be clear. I heard the same thing you did, Mr. Yeah. matter of semantic setup. Go ahead. Not really. Well, not really. I I It's not I apologize.

I want to preserve the record the correct way here. And Madam Chair, it it should it be a withdrawal, there's no vote, nothing that would be done by this. Yeah. Yeah. We'll go ahead and withdraw. All right. Yes. Okay. Thank you. I want to thank you all for coming tonight. Your voices were heard. Yes. All right. Thank you. Okay. Okay. We don't need to make a motion if it's withdrawn.

We're going to take a two-minut break while the uh while the audience clears.

Um, Miss Coleman, is your microphone on? We're back in session. Thank you very much. Okay. Uh, is the audience to be heard this evening? [laughter] Okay, let's go on to other business. Um, reports from staff.

Yes, Madame Chair. Uh last week the city clerk's office uh sent me an email and I forwarded to the board um requesting that the September the regularly scheduled PNZ uh board meeting of September 23rd, 2026 um be moved to September 24th, which is a Thursday. At the same time, 6 PM the chambers are available. Um we will just need to have a motion second motion and approval by the board if that's okay. Um they have a legally scheduled legally mandated public budget something u but they're asked for us to uh they can we can move that for them.

Okay. I think most of us got an email on that. Um okay. Any discussion? Okay. Let's have a motion. motion to move uh the date uh that Bobby just as as per as per Bobby's uh as per what I said per what Bobby said. Second. Okay. Call the role. All right. Paul Fischer, yes. Thunderre King, yes. Robert Hartzo, yes. David Mingus, yes. Darian Warley, yes. Carla Coleman, yes. Thank you, Jean. Any any wisdom for us this evening? I I didn't hear what you said. That was fun. Any wisdom for us this evening?

Always. Well, let me see. Now, [laughter] I should mention that uh February 11th, we are having an outreach meeting on our adaptation plan. It's kind of a kickoff. Um it's mostly to talk about flooding and where you see flooding and that sort of thing. But Aptim is our consultant. They actually wrote the guide book for FDP on how to do an adaptation plan. So, we've got the guys that wrote the book doing our plan for us. So, I think we have the best of the best. And it'll be at the cultural center starting at 6 PM on the 11th. You

Mr. Attorney Board members discussion. David, thank you for joining us tonight. It's early.

Um I Well, I just I just want to comment on the process that happened, you know, what happened tonight. Um, I was just really floored by everyone that came out and spoke and it was nice to hear the community do that and uh, and this is why process worked, right? So they came out and then to have Whitney stand up and I I serve on the Northwest CRA advisory board with him and you know to to see him do that and then u and I know him you know and he is a man of his word and so it was just just the whole process was very special and I'm glad I was here and and this is how it should work moving forward.

And I was also gonna I'm sorry I was also going to state you know that I feel like they were able to get here and I know that the the next process was to go to the commission, but we should also let them know that we are their voice, you know. So, I don't know how everyone was going to vote, but I think we were on all the we were on the same page, but you know, it was just um you know, I think they felt heard and that was that was nice. Thank you, Mr. Fisher. I echo that completely. I think the community spoke tonight and uh and got change. That's what we all need and what's we need moving forward for other items uh that involve the community. So agree, Miss King.

Um I too was elated to hear from the community, which I I hear from the community almost daily. Um there was another project that um was approved by the board and the person had said that it was going to be affordable housing and it was not affordable housing. The medium income in the Northwest neighborhood is about 50 $555,000. And so, um, most people in the neighborhood cannot afford a $500, $600,000 house for their family. So, I think, um, it's it's those areas perhaps that we have to dig a little bit harder and work a little bit harder because that it wasn't just that one time mistrust. There's just been other things. And I think um last night tonight was what um uh a uh black advocate called the cries of the unheard. And so what you heard tonight were the cries of the unheard. And so I I believe that my colleagues here on the board um we do our best job to um to be fair across the board, but um there are times as a Northwest resident that I do feel left out in my community. And so I think we could keep pushing away at the things that we can do to to better each community and that that equity um grows goes across uh every district. And um you know I just try to keep plugging away at it and as I sit here I I I think it's my um duty to hear from people not only just in here but in the community and I try to bring those things back to Commissioner Perkins when I hear them and um share with her some of the things that people share with me. So, I'm glad that everybody tonight was willing to be open-minded and to listen to things that I hear on a daily basis. And I thank you, um, Miss Jean, for the work that

you all do. And I know it's not an easy work, but um, thank you all for, um, just being so attentive tonight. I know it was a lot of emotions, but um they are the cries of the unheard and these are hardworking people that truly love Pompoke because a lot of people relocated from PMPO and I have not and my family has not and so thank you again. And um the only other thing you mentioned, Miss uh Dolan, was about the flooding. And that's funny because my mom's street is one of those streets that floods often. So I don't know where that will fit into the equation, but it's not even during hurricane season that we experience a lot of flooding on 15th Street and um Third Avenue. So maybe that might be one of the things that's addressed. And thank you all again, Mr. Hartzel.

I'd like to echo those comments too. And I think it was [clears throat]

We heard a lot today from a community that feels isolated and as somebody pointed out said like, "Oh, you know, are you Liberty Park? Are you Liberty Park?" We are Liberty Park. We're estates. Um, we're Pompeo Isles. We're everywhere. We're on the beach. We have to take in what all the community says and be incorporate everybody's ideas and I think we do that as a as as a as a board and I think it's really important and and it disappoints me when someone points out and says oh you're not from there so you wouldn't know. Well, I rely on everybody, you know, to to take in the information, as Carla said, and we all make unbiased decisions up here for the benefit of everybody as a whole as as all of Pompo Beach. We're not We are one community and that community is Pompado Beach. Um I I was disappointed and I got to say this, I always give staff kudos for presentations. I I thought that that presentation was not great. Um there could have been um a little bit more to that a little, you know, there was a lot of confusion among the constituents out there that were complaining about like what are you putting there? You know, um and I was a little confused as to what we're doing. I know we're reszoning, but reszoning is a very broad term as to what they're actually going to get. Um I am definitely a high density person but that all depends on whether it's compatible and there's got to be compatibility uh along with with any type of redevelopment you're going to do. Uh you cannot just place something without some sort of buffer.

And I have I've sat up here for probably a year and a half. I'm new. Um, I have asked every person that comes up here, I said, "Look, if you just bring me like, give me something to bite on. Tell me legally why you cannot do this, you'll have my attention. Not because you think it's bad, not because of your opinion that, you know, it's going to cause traffic. Show me something solid." [snorts] This is the first time we ever got anything like that. I mean, this guy really went into details of of plan policies that were violated

and I didn't get answers. I don't feel like my present Let me stop you only because um you're in board's discussions and the item was withdrawn. So, I would hate for any of this information, which I know you are globally discussing um how you view applications, but I would hate for someone hearing you to think that you're specifically referring to an application that has been withdrawn. So I I only wanted to I was persuade you to uh

was merely making a suggestion for further people that come before this board is to bring go through the comprehensive plan go through the zoning code and tell us why bring us facts bring us the law so that we can make that decision. And then lastly I think um Carla you you really hit it on the head. We don't we these aren't our applications. All we're doing is comparing, you know, make listening to the testimony um and making a decision. It's not us. James is doing the 67 over there. Anyway, everybody wants to go home. Um thanks again and I appreciate you all being here, especially um substitutes.

Thank you. Before I um our motion to adjurnn here, I I just want to say I know staff uh had a really uh it's hard to be staff and listen to a lot of folks against your application that you've worked on and and and uh recommended approval on. Um uh I think that uh and I and I hope that we've all learned here that uh sometimes it's not enough just to have the applicants um representative here. Sometimes the applicant uh themselves need to be here to defend their projects. And um I I have no doubt that this one will come back to us in another form that uh that the the board has used much more communication uh and collaboration to work on because the kind of housing that was being proposed here 96 units of low all 100% of them low income uh is desperately needed in the city and the town home configuration of 96 versus 42 duplex units is really not what I would call a high-rise. I think there was a lot of communication uh issues as happened with applications sometimes. So, um, uh, I'm just glad that we, um, uh, had a group of people who were willing to be relatively orderly this evening, uh, about something they felt very passionate about. So, thank all of you. And with that,