Municipal Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

if you'll lead the pledge of allegiance. If you'll stand for it. Father God, thank you for a wonderful day and for the many blessings that you give us. Lord, please watch over us. Be with the decisions we make for the good of our city this evening. In Christ's name, amen. Amen. Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. Maryann, would you please call the role? Chair Harris here. Vice Chair Morell here. Mr. Per here. Mayor Brown. Councilman Fan

here. Mr. Strower. Mr. Thompson, you have a quorum. All right. Thank you, ma'am. And I did hear from Mr. Thompson. He's just running a few minutes late, so he should be here. Um, Secretary, do we have minutes to present? We do um minutes dated October 6, 2025 uh work session meeting and the October 27th, 2025 regular agenda meeting minutes. And I make a motion that we approve without any changes. Second motion, second by Councilman Fan. Anybody request any changes to the minutes? All right, with that, I'll call for the vote. All those in favor of approval say I.

I. Any oppose say no. All right, that motion carries. That brings us to the point of the agenda. We have public comment on agenda related items. So, if you're here on any agenda item that does not have a public comment, this is your time to come forward. But I will make a note that item 10 wind song has a public comment of its own. Uh the Wawwa Gallatin has a public comment individually and the Lowe's Gallatin outdoor displays also has an individual public comment. So you can speak now or speak at the end. But with that we'll open public comment on the agenda related items.

All right. See no one rushing to the front of the room. Close public comment on the agenda items and we'll move on to the consent agenda. Mr. Chairman, I'll recuse myself on items two and three of the consent agenda. All right. So noted. Um and I'll I'll make a motion to approve the consent agenda. Second. Second by CJ. Uh any discussion. All those in favor of approval consent agenda say I. I. Any oppose say no. All right. Consent agenda passes. And that will bring us to item eight on our regular agenda, which is uh resolution 2025-120 GDE substation expansion.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Jim Carpenter, staff planner. The owner and applicant request approval of a site plan for the GDE Nichols Lane substation expansion on a 7.32 acre parcels of R40 low density residential district located south of Nichols Lane and west of Woods Fairy Road. The plans show an additional driveway uh from Woods Ferry and a gravel uh base for future expansions of the substation. Uh staff had mostly minor comments on this item and recommends approval of resolution number 2025-120 with five conditions.

I do have a representative for the applicant. Evening. Brandon Hass, Gton Department of Electricity, 135 Jones Street, Gallatton. We had no additional comments or questions, but I'll be happy to take any. Now, you're good with the You're good with the conditions? Motion to approve with all staff comments. I'll second. Got a motion and a second to approve with staff's five conditions of approval. Any further debate or questions? So, none to call the vote. All those in favor of approval say I. I. Any oppose say no. All right. That motion is Thank you, sir. Go get us some power.

Okay. Item nine is resolution 2025-131 Edmonton State Bank parking edition amended site plan.

Good evening commissioners. Charlie Perry, staff planner. The owner applicant requests approval of an amended site plan for Edmonton State Bank for a parking lot expansion on two parcels totaling 1.4 4 plus or minus acres zoned as CS commercial services located at 250 and 242 West Broadway. To bring you guys back up to speed on this project, these are the two parcels in question, one belonging to the Edmonson State Bank and this piece of property over here that used to be like a mattress store. That building has since been torn down and the bank acquired it to expand their parking. This is the previous plan that was submitted to you guys last year for approval to over the U parking limit because they exceed the maximum requirements and it had this uh cross access to the commercial center on the northern side. This is the uh current proposal for this item. You can see that the parking has been flipped away from the building and that the access has been removed. Uh, planning department staff recommend approval of resolution 2025-131 with the following three conditions. Thank you. Thank you. Do we have a representative for the applicant here? Andy Lee, Greenley Design, 114B West Main Street. Our request is pretty simple, but I'm happy to entertain any questions you've got. Okay. Um I guess just if you would just remind us what's the what's the negative impact of having that cross connection installed there.

Well, so outside the fact that neither property owner wants it, which is not unusual, we're concerned that people are going to use it as a cut through the parking lot to get to Red River and the flow of the park of the internal of the site because of the drive-thru. If we cross over right there and people come in front of the building, they're going to hit one-way traffic. The traffic's not intended to turn back. Bri, if you go back to the aerial. So, if they come across the front of the building, that's a oneway out and they would be turning back left into oncoming traffic coming out of the drive-thru. See? And then if we try to route people around the rear of the building, it gets gets complicated again in the back because of the way the flow is in the back. And so we feel like it's going to create a lot of congestion internal to the parking lot. I understand why staff made their request a year ago. But after looking at it and the owner looking over it, it's going to be difficult if people try to cut through there to get to Red River Road. We don't really know what it's going to alleviate traffic when they can just pop out on Main Street. or Nashville Pike and get to the red light, too.

Anybody else have any questions for the applicant? Could I Could we go back and see the um proposed layout? Oh, thank you. It just removes the cross connection. So, it it doesn't have the cross connection in the front or the back. Um I'm I'm just really an advocate for cross connectivity on these parking lots and if if this isn't I know yeah that's I'm supporting the staff's condition number two

go ahead go ahead CJ I was just gonna say it looks like There's Well, how wide is the parcel next door? Which one next door? The the smoke shop. The cigar shop. Yeah. I don't know how wide that parcel is in particular. I I don't know if it's with I think it's a separate parcel from the shopping center. It's less than 100 ft wide, isn't it?

It's not very wide. So, it's probably over there to that curb line, but I'm just speculating right now. Oh, it sort of shows up a little bit. I I've spent some time there in that parking lot. It is it is an awkward parking lot to navigate. So, and I can see the concern of it getting used as a cut through to relieve the traffic out of that shopping center trying to get out to Red River Road being a being a problem and actually being dangerous. So, why I why cross connectivity where it makes sense. I in this case I I think it's going to do more harm than it's going to do good. So I'll make a motion to approve um however striking condition two from the approval.

Second by Mr. Fan have any questions? No sir. That'll call vote. All those in All those in favor of approval say I. Any oppose say no. No. All right. One note. All right. Item 10 is resolution 2025-132, Windsong Residential Phases 2A and 2F, amended preliminary master development plan. And this will have a public comment.

Uh, good evening, commissioners. Brad Hickman, staff planner. Uh the owner and applicant request approval of an amended preliminary master development plan and revised final master development plan for the Windong phases 2A through 2F on 95.2 acres located north of Highway 109 and west of South Water. Um this is all concerning the trail amenity that was included with the original PMDP and FMDPS. Um you can see it here. Uh the new proposed trail coming up through here and cross-sections of mode trail and gravel and compacted uh mulch as requested in the work session. See clearer here what they're suggesting as opposed to the previous approval. Uh staff would like to see uh no MO trails included in this request. and uh a 20 foot paved transition to sidewalks in order to keep the mulch off the sidewalk. Um the planning department recommends approval of this resolution number 2025-132 with the following two conditions and we do recommend this as a minor amendment and there will be public comment. Thank you,

Mr. Chairman. I'll need to recuse myself from this item. All right. Noted, Mr. Preer. Uh before we hear from the applicant, we'll open a public comment. So, if anyone's here wishing to speak to this item, now's your chance. Ask you to come to the podium. All right. Seeing no one indicating they wish to speak, public comment is closed and we will hear from the applicant.

Hi, my name is Michael Nutelli. Uh, Nutelli Communities and our family company is the uh developer of the residential portion of Winston. And um I was unaware of the I'm not sure is it a condition or a request for the paved condition. A condition. Yes sir.

So I'm a little caught off regard in responding. I wasn't aware that that would be a condition. However, um one concern I have and and maybe we can handle this with signage is uh while we tried to eliminate, you know, very sloped areas where the previous trail alignment existed to try to get uh areas to be, you know, to try to align that greenway trail on areas that are flatter. There are still some connections um particularly to uh let's see what Ryan Avenue um where they are you know there are still sloped areas so a so the trail will not be ADA I assume everybody knows that it's it won't be ADA if it's going to have mulch and natural surface people with mobility challenges won't be able to traverse it. If we pave an area from the sidewalk, I do have a concern that people with mobility challenges may be induced to want to go on the trail and would be on a sloped area at some point. Um, so that's a little concerning. Again, maybe we can deal with that issue through signage. Um but if it's if the issue is or the concern is that you don't want to get mulch onto the sidewalk. Um some of the sloped areas were called to be called for to be mowed grass shorter than the rest of the grass particularly on slope areas since mulch

and so forth might wash. Um, so I just opened that up for discussion and I'd appreciate your feedback on my concern that issue. See, see, did you you were here for the work session, so that was my first question is is what was discussed at work session? Um it was what we discussed at the work session was getting some clarity on the areas that were proposed to be mode grass versus okay

versus the different types um there had been a request um from staff at the work session to pave the trail system and that I don't think there was no appetite for paving the whole thing. So but that's that's kind of what the discussion centered around the work session piece. Um and and the applicant you he maybe for CJ's sake too that I think there was a lot of things you guys have done that were above and beyond to help the city and engineering you know on this project already. So yeah, you know, some storm water features and things. So they've they've they've been really good, you know, they worked really good with the city on a lot of things. So if I might elaborate.

Yeah, please. areas. If you can uh if you think about where the stream bifrocates the site at the end of that stream and on the west side where there's a bit of a horseshoe in the trail that is largely a former hall road um from the site contractor and we left that in place knowing it was going to be flat and a good area to have it. Also, uh much of that horseshoe has a gravel subbase. So, we want to leave that alone. It's solid. It's compacted. Maybe there's some grass grown in it, but it's durable. Um on areas where there are still sloping conditions, you know, we intend to have that as, you know, mow grass to be shorter than the grass surrounding it. and flatter areas would be mulch with a uh uh underllayment you know to contain that mulch. Um so an example of a sloped area as I had mentioned you know Ryan Avenue I don't know if you can point to that you know where the it's on the it would be on the left side right where that pond is and yes so if you can see that trail that's you know a relatively it's level at the street but then it you know goes downhill and turns and doesn't get flat until you start to approach that horseshoe. So again, we could pave 20 feet of that, for example, that area and other areas where the trail connects the sidewalk. But I I already expressed my concern

about doing so and having, you know, people with mobility challenges or what have you, you know, trying to go down that trail and not having a good situation. So yeah, I I I tend to agree with his concern related I mean I If we're putting 20 foot of sidewalk in to keep mulch, I think you can accomplish that. And with five feet

of sidewalk, then it's more of a trail head. You put a sign at the end of the trail at 5t saying it is not accessible. But I an approved trail system or something, whatever it is. I is is the intent for the for the trail basically for user discretion on whether or not they're putting wood chips there or grass. Is that the intent? Are they having apologize if I'm interrupting, but so the pattern book as part of the PDMDP that was approved called for an 8 foot wide natural surface trail.

Okay. during the work session uh I won't go through the history but you we walk the trail with planning engineering staff and there are some very you know very sloped areas that were infeasible to construct a natural surface trail so we determined a new alignment and that new alignment was a little was shorter 800 feet shorter we added another area to pick up uh another 800 feet or something I forget what it was We're the delta now between the original length and difference was uh what 530 ft

as a result of the reduction in the trail length before we added that additional segment. Planning staff requested that we pave the entire trail which was never contemplated and so nor was it a condition of approval. So, I found additional area and we determined which areas we were going to have which surfaces and that's kind of where we are. So, basically what I'm hearing is what did you have something Ryan?

Yeah, I just wanted to clarify on the reason why the no grass part is there. Um the main thought process that we had was much of that area is already grassy. And if you are trying to delineate a trail, you know, what's the difference between a mode park area or mode area near a a water stream and then trying to delineate where's the edge of your your trail pathway. And if it's grassy, then you're not going to see that delineation. It's just going to be a wide mode area. Um, and so we we wanted to see that delineated with some other kind of material, whether it be gravel or mulch versus just a mode trail. Um, also, I mean, I don't know if you if you guys have spent any time on mode trails, but they're not awesome. you know, uh, if you're walking on them early in the morning, you're going to get your shoes super wet because of the dew and everything that's on them. Um, so just from a an aesthetic standpoint, from a um, delineation standpoint, and then from a, you know, a walker u experience type of a standpoint, um, we felt like the mode trail is not the right way to go. Just make sure I understand though, had had they just built the trail system in the layout that they originally wanted to,

could they have put mo trails in that? They could have. I mean, it was not specified on the PMDP the type of natural trail. So, uh, now that we're kind of at that level of detail, um, we're requesting that it not be that version of natural trail, but it wasn't outside the possibilities with it with the PMDP approval.

So, I'm hoping that we can, you know, put signage along the trail to indicate where it is so that people know. That was actually my next question is like if if you if you're allowed to use the mode trail piece or has them be grasped, you know, is it intent you're going to have signage or something so people know the path? Yeah. and uh the suggestion about putting signage at the trail heads identifying that whatever the languages that we place on those signs that uh I'm not sure what the language would be but yeah

warning people that it's a natural surface trail so that those who aren't able to use that trail don't try to use that trail however for reconstruct that language. But if I understand correctly, the end result is we now have a trail system, even though it's less, it's more usable for everyone. I certainly believe that. I hope planning and engineering believe that because when we walked at the alignment that we walked, everyone was in agreement that it was good. But speak up if I misunderstood.

Okay. Uh, no. The removed parts were quite steep, but uh, upon coming back to us to want to revisit this and shorten it, we felt like we could get a better product for the neighborhood.

CJ, my thoughts are they were they were approved for a natural trail. I and even though the trail's shorter, it's now more user friendly than the existing trail. They they could have just constructed the trail where it was and it'd be really steep and even more unaccessible.

Okay. I I do I do like the idea of some type of an apron transition because you know I I live on a on a road that's got a lot of gravel driveways on it and the gravel winds up out in the road. Um but I think I think it could be done with a like a five foot apron transition or something. I don't think be 20 feet, but the intent is to not have the mulch that was the intent on the city sidewalk. That's the distance we use for like driveway aprons and stuff onto a road. So, I mean, I just said that for that purpose, but but the the intent is to try to keep it off the city sidewalk. In this case, you're not having cars doing it, so it's not going to drag it as much. So,

I I'm I'm okay with revising that note to state 5t. Um, as far as the surface is concerned, I mean, this is previously portions of this were not mulched at all. Is that what I'm understanding? And now there's going to be portions that are mulched, but we just don't know how much. Uh, the trail doesn't exist currently. only the I mean the approval though like the approved trail that was in the documents just stated natural service

natural service we don't know it was not specified what the surface of the trail would have been and what we're trying to do is specify a better type of treatment than just a mowed trail. I mean, that's that's really the the crux of it. And I I frankly can't see how you're going to be able to know if you're still on the trail if it's mowed if if it's a mowed trail next to a grassy area. You know, you're you're just in a big grass area. You could do like 4x4 posts that are like monuments, but how many signs are you going to have to do in order to do that?

Let me ask this just maybe for clarification. is the the areas or the fields of grass that the trail is passing through, are those mowed like a lawn every week or are they more natural grassy areas that are going to have a mode trail through them? Help me help me understand where this trail what trails passing through. So, um not not all common area through which the greenway trail passes are maintained. So, there will be taller grass particularly in areas behind some of the town houses where the trail runs behind town houses and next to the stream. Gotcha.

In fact, the trail goes within some waterway natural area, stream buffer area. 80 was it like 70% of the trail is within the buffer which shouldn't be touched anyways. I mean, I know you can put trails and stuff in it, but

yeah. I don't I hear what you're saying, Brian. I I do, but like I I've got 25 acres at my place and I keep I have a mileong mode trail through the grass that my wife walks every day and it it actually works pretty good. We would request the HOA. Uh, and for what it's worth, I'm the president of the HOA as long as we're involved with the community to try to help maintain the vision that we have for the community. And so I'll ask our HOA to have our landscape maintenance provider mow that trail weekly and shorter than surrounding grass whether that's in common area that's also mowed or through naturalized areas. And I'd be happy to have, you know, extend the concrete sidewalk, you know, 5, 10 feet, whatever, and try to transition it to where it leads to the trail and then erect signage along the trail at various intervals to guide people. So, I hope that is a practical solution to that can work. You guys have any questions, comments, motions?

I'll take a shot of the motion unless you have one. No, you're I'll take a shot. Okay. Free to take a shot of it. Motion to approve. Can we get a minor major? A motion that be a minor amendment. Second. Second. Any discussion? All those in favor being a minor amendment say I. I. Any opposed? All right. It's a minor amendment. Thank you, Julie.

All right. Give me a second to read this. Okay. Uh motion to approve except modifying condition one to remove the first sentence. changing the minimum distance of 20 feet to a minimum distance of 5T and then adding a sentence stating uh signage to be added along the trail system to provide wayfinding. way finding.

I'll second that. Any further debate? Anybody questions? Okay. All those in favor of approval say I.

I. Any oppose say no. All right. It is approved. Okay. brings us to item 11, resolution 2025-133, Waw Wa Gallatin Nashville Pipe amended preliminary master development plan and this also includes the public comment. The owner and applicant requests approval of an amendment to the Gallatin Gap preliminary master development plan and final master development plan for the Wawwa convenience store on two lots totaling 3.67 67 acres zoned PGC planned general commercial located west of Harris Lane and north of Nashville Pike. What you have in front of you is the um preliminary master development plan for the Gallatin Gap site as a whole. We're talking about these two lots here on the south and west corner of the property. This is the proposal for the Waw Wa gas station that'll be on both of those lots. So, this applicant will have to combine the two lots into one. That is a uh condition of approval. And here is the landscaping surrounding the property and in the parking islands. Um this is consistent with the um landscaping requirements in the zoning ordinance and with the uh PGC landscaping requirements. And this is the architecture. This is more than the 70% brickstone requirement. So this satisfies that requirement canopy which is slanted as per their um trademark um structure. Um, this site also meets the um, conditions outlined for um, convenient sales and service in

the PGC zoning district. And lastly, we have the lighting plan which shows quite a bit of light coming from the canopy area. There is a note in the plan saying that this light will be shielded to not shed any excessive light into the surrounding properties or onto Nashville Pike. The plan department recommends approval of resolution 2025-133 with the following seven conditions.

All right. Thank you. And this does have a public comment. So at this time I'll open a public comment on resolution 2025-133. Anybody wish to speak? This is your time. See no one indicating they wish to speak. We'll close the public comment and we will hear from the applicant. staff would like to note that this has a uh major or minor amendment vote prior. Okay. Good evening, Commissioner. Landon B, the Kimbley Horn. We have no issues with the conditions that were placed on us, but be happy to answer any questions. The architecture on this is similar to the one on Long Island Pike that's already been approved. That's going through the process.

Okay. Um but I think this was always intended to be allowed to go there. So, I'll make a motion that it be a minor amendment. Second, second by Mr. Thompson. any debate. All in favor of being a minor amendment say I. I. Any oppose say no. All right. It'll be a minor amendment. Um and the the the just to make sure we're clear. So the connection you guys are connecting to the property line. I'm going to say to the left just plant. Yeah. Um but then the issue of getting that connection made all the way to Ford is a separate issue. Has nothing to do with their project. Uh we're in discussions with Ford about making sure we get easement. Okay. Things that we need the roadways there almost to the property line. Not quite. Okay. Wawa is showing what they're supposed to show.

They're they're doing what they're supposed to do to make sure that happens someday. That's correct. Yes. So, and this this is a case where I think this cross connection absolutely has to go in. So, so just so Okay. Um I'll make a motion that we approve with staff seven conditions. I'll second. All right. Got a motion by Mr. Priier, second by Mr. Thompson. Any further debate? All right. All those in favor of approval say I. I. Any opposed say no. Passes unanimously. Thank you, sir. Item 12, um, resolution 2025-134, the Premier Academy of Gallatin. Final master development plan.

Uh, the owner and applicant request approval of a final master development plan for the Premier Academy on 0.59 acres, uh, zoned MRO, multiple residential and office located at 1168 Nashville Pike. Uh staff had mostly minor comments around this plan. You can see in red here the existing conditions and the trees they're wanting to remove for signage, the additional parking lot, and uh the play area over here. Then the current plan with the uh fence details included per work session. They have the additional parking and the signage stating that this will only be for employees. So there no frequent two-way traffic there. Uh the planning department recommends approval of resolution number 2025134 with the following four conditions.

All right. Thank you. Do we have a representative for the applicant here? U J just while we're talking about so the the plan they have submitted is this getting the exceptions they need to the to the buffer yards and that's all worked out in this or Yes. So um they have shown landscaping uh that would require alternatives but again that's not terribly uncommon in this corridor. Oh no absolutely. Um but they have shown plantings where they can show plantings. Okay. So all right make sure that was already taken care of. So go ahead please. Yes sir. Uh Jake Vincent with Reagan Smith here to answer any question you have. I that was the one question I really had was on the buffer yards and I'm assuming you're the owner

bar. Yes, I'm the one who wants to open this. So Okay. Well, I'm I'm excited to see it going over there. That that's um that's a good place for this. So yeah, very excited about it. Yeah. Um and the comments seem pretty minor. Anybody have any questions? I'll make a motion to approve with staff comments. All right. Motion get a motion from CJ to approve with staff's four conditions of approval. Second. Second by Mr. Thompson. All those in favor of approval say I. I. Any oppose say no. Passes unanimously. Looking forward to seeing it.

All right. Item 13, resolution 2025-135, the crossings at Hidden Creek Jenin Lanes infrastructure and phase 4 final master development plan.

Right. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Uh the owner applicant requests approval of a final master development plan for crossings of Hidden Creek Jenkins Lane phase 4 on a on a 7.05 plus or minus acre portion of a parcel zone MRO multiple residential and office district and PGC plan general commercial district located north of 386 and east of big station camp boulevard. Uh the owner applicant request approval uh for 22 single family uh residences along with the infrastructure for Jenkins Lane. Uh staff has included a condition that the applicant show uh 8 foot wide grass strips along Jenkins Lane uh to provide for street trees as shown in the PMDP. Um and engineering has also included a condition for um some driveway width or not driveway width but um for the turn lanes um but um for the architecture is consistent with other phases of the crossings and outside of that uh we have very minor comments.

Thank you. Do we have a representative for the applicant here? Good afternoon, Landon Allison with Kennley Horn. Um, we agree with the 15 conditions. Um, do you want to provide some clarification there on on the first one and alluded to it, but the the grass strips um and street trees. So we're providing street trees where um able within the eight 8 foot grass strip um areas. Those areas where we have already worked with engineering on the turn lanes um where we have to provide 5 foot wide due to those turn lanes. Those areas where we would would have had street trees will be relocated to areas um along Jenkins Lane to make up for those. Okay. Engineer, you guys good with that?

Yes. Okay. Okay. I don't have any comments. Okay. All right. I don't have any other That was my only thing I saw that was in there that was we didn't we didn't talk about at the work session, so I didn't know where that was coming from, but um All right. Well, with that, I'll make a motion to approve with staff's 13 conditions of approval. Second. All right. Motion and a second by CJ. Any debate? All right. All those in favor of approval say I.

Any oppose say no. All right. Thank you, sir. Item 14, resolution 2025-105, Lowe's of Gallatton outdoor sales display, amended preliminary master development plan. That was a mouthful. And that also has a public comment.

Yes, sir. Uh the owner and applicant request approval of an amended preliminary master development plan and revised final master development plan for a 12,472 ft outdoor display addition to the Lowe's home center on a 14.8 acre lot zone PGC planned general commercial located at 1301 Nashville Pike. Uh Lowe's come back. They were deferred in the last planning commission. um have added storage to the site over here in the garden area while leaving 20 feet for a fire lane. Uh they have agreed to stripe a fire lane over here as well. Most of the storage that was initially requested has been removed from the far front parking lot. Uh except for the tool storage which looking back at the previous PMDP, those uh drive spaces were 10 ft wide. So, I think that was the intention all along. They just didn't ask for it in the beginning. Uh, we also have storage along the back curb and they have agreed to put a 8-foot fence to screen it from the developing residential area behind it. See here the previously approved master development plan and then the tool rental as well. Uh the planning department recommends approval of resolution number 2025-105 with the uh following conditions.

Thank you. Do we have a Oh, actually hold on. Public comment. See now the applicant is the only one left in the room. There should be no public, but anyway. Um public comments open. Seeing no one's left. Public comments closed. Now we'll hear from the applicant. I would like to add uh we do recommend this be a minor amendment. Thank you. Before he even gets up here, I'll make a motion that be a minor amendment. A second. All right. Second by Mr. Thompson. All in favor being a minor amendment say I. I. I. All right. It's a minor amendment.

Good evening. Uh Todd Bartok, senior construction manager for Lowe's. Um we uh we are presenting what we've what you've seen and what you've heard. The only comment I have is the I personally don't believe that the 8oot fence in the back is going to screen from that residential being as high as it is. if they were to put a fence up, it would much it would it would block a lot of their view of the lows. I mean, majority of the lows if that were the case. We are willing to do it, but I'm just saying I I don't believe that it's going to give you all the screening you're looking for. Uh it'll screen that material there, but it won't screen anything else in my opinion.

That was going to be my first question because I know that site back there is much higher than Lowe's is. Um, what do we know what the vertical separation is? It's higher than the top of the No, we don't have the specifics on that. Uh, Brian and I went and walked the site and we do believe it would be effective. It's going to be at their property line, so it'll be up the slope a bit, the fence will. And it will be effective in blocking some of the storage behind the store. You're still going to see air conditioning units and pallets right up against the store probably from the second floor of those town homes. Okay. But you guys actually you went out and looked at it and you do believe it's going to help. Okay. Okay. Cool. Okay. And like I said, we are willing to to go to the fence. I just was expressing my opinion.

No, it's more than welcome to. I'll make a motion to approve his staff comments. I'll second. Thanks for working with us. Yeah. Thank you,

John. John seconded it. I'm a If you don't mind, I'm going to ask to make an amendment to to that. Um, and I my comment on I think you guys did exactly what needed to be done. This is typical. I see this out of the low stores. the the thing that I think would the last piece that would be helpful and I don't think it's a big burden would be I'd like to add a condition that the areas in the parking lot that are being removed for dedicated storage that the parking spaces the white lines be removed are blacked out and that you know whether it's a blue box or or some type of painting to designate that that's an outdoor storage area so that it's it's clear that's what it's supposed to be used for. So,

and you're referring to Oh, no. O, only Yeah. Right there. And where the um and where the tool the the tool rentals are. Oh, over here. Yeah. I'm only talking about what's in the main parking lot that currently has parking spaces denoted or painted lines. I would just like you to basically, you know, paint them either paint them black and and and where your and just paint a blue line in front of like where the where the uh the rental equipment is and then over where your outdoor storage is in front of the garden center. Just basically just outline that so that it's clear that that's outdoor storage area and it's not parking spaces anymore. So I I I would agree with you except for the fact that this is temporary.

Oh, that is temporary. Okay. Yeah. This is only the four months that we're going to be doing this the uh the mulch. Okay. So that's we can we can paint this over here at the at the trailers, but this is open majority of the year. Okay. So you're okay. So that your intention is that will be open majority of the year. That's where you're going to move your bulk mulch just for that one. Yes. Yes, sir. Okay. Well then scratch that. Scratch that. Forget I said it. So may maybe you can revise that note then to because it says permanent outdoor storage. I know. I keep telling them just change it and they don't. So maybe well then then my then my then my amendment to the motion is to um change that wording to say temporary. Absolutely.

And then also can can I make the request that they do that in the back of the building as well because that's also an area where that um you where that that 10 feet of a line of storage could easily widen without someone knowing how wide it can go. Um, so you know, to make sure we we didn't ask for that lane to be striped as a fire lane at all, but we wouldn't want that to get wider and wider with someone not knowing. You guys think striping is cheap, but for the for the for the part-time guy on the forklift, it might be good to know where the where the limit is. Yeah, they they have this plan in their office. So, okay.

Whatever we get approved, we put a clearance letter together that states exactly where they can put and not The plan has been updated. Yeah. But what what you're saying, we can do that. We can we can plant that or paint that. Okay. So, you want the white lines removed only in the area. Is that a permanent storage, not temporary storage? Correct. Per or which in this case is actually the the tool rental area. Yeah. So, to remove the white parking lines in the area being used for the tool rental. Yes. Um, and then add add on the back of the building a a line denoting the limit of the 10 feet for storage so it does not encroach into the fire lane.

Okay. Yeah, I like that. So that's my motion. We have to vote on that amendment. We do. Who seconded my amendment? Well, I'll second the amendment. Okay, so you second my amendment. So first we'll vote on the amendment to the motion. So, all those in favor of my all in favor of my amendment to the motion say I. I. Any oppose say no. Okay. Now, we're back on the original motion as amended. All those in favor say I. I. Anyone post say no. All right. It is now passed. Thank you, sir. Thank you, sir. Appreciate you working with the staff on that.

And that brings us to other business and announcements. I did all of mine last week. I have no more surprises for you. We don't have any other business at this time. Um we are not quite ready to put out the zoning ordinance yet. We're still working on um whatever changes we still need to have our consultants make to make any corrections that are still out there. So um I'm envisioning it may not happen until beginning of the year when we start having meetings on that. So uh just holidays and everything kind of make it difficult. Yeah. So, I would tend to agree at this point, not just because I'm leaving at the end of the year.

Yeah. So, all right. Uh, with that, I'll make a motion to adjurnn. Second. All right. Second.