About this meeting
- Government Body
- City Council
- Meeting Type
- City Council
- Location
- Menifee, CA
- Meeting Date
- April 1, 2026
Transcript
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Well, good evening, Meny. Happy Wednesday night to you. Happy city council evening. I'm going to go ahead and call this meeting to order at 6:00. Madam clerk, have you received any correspondence on tonight's agenda? The council did receive correspondence on item 12.2 in your red folders. That was from parks commissioner Laz Peterson. We saw it. In case LZ, you're watching, we saw it. Uh, madam clerk, could you please call roll? Council member Dinus is absent. Council member Dedricch here. Council member Temple here. Acting Mayor Carwin here. And Mayor Estrada is absent. And then there were three. So, so Council Member Dinus is currently deployed to Beirut. April Fools.
April Fools. Yeah, exactly. No, Council Member Dinus is under the weather today. Um, so he's not going to be able to join us, but we can continue with three. So, we're going to do that. And then, um, Mayor Estrada remains, he actually is deployed from the United States Air Force Reserves. For those of you who don't know, he is a member of the United States Air Force Reserves. I see some new faces here. And his unit was deployed to active duty. Uh, he's been there for about 5 months. He's expected to come back next month. We don't know if he's going to get extended or not, but he is uh well and safe. Bored, not at all because it's activity over there, but we're looking forward to his safe return. All right, moving on. Would Pastor Jeremy Martinez with the Rock Church please come to the podium to provide the words of inspiration? Good evening. Well, thank you for having me here tonight. How many of you love the city of Meny and the surrounding little towns that we live in? Come on, tell your neighbor I love Meny. Come on. All right. Well, it's a pleasure to be here tonight. And again, my name is Jeremy Martinez, pastor at the Rock Church. And um I just wanted to give you a little story of how we got out here. Um a few years back back in 2017 God called us out here to live in Meny uh serving for the surrounding um regions especially uh Lake Elsenor and we've seen a lot of diversity out there and also here in Menafi we love Meny and um our first home actually back in Santa Ana, California was called the house of bread because God always provided bread for us. We called it the party house because we always had parties there with the kids and with the family. It was just a beautiful home. And then when we got called out here, we moved to Meny. It was a huge house and we called it the house of vacation. [laughter]
We knew it was temporary, but we we loved it. And then um we moved to Lake Elsenor for a little while and then we came back and bought a nice house just down the street here. And we call that the house of provision. And let me just say this. When we are praying and believing for something, things will come to pass in my life and in my beautiful wife's life. We've been married for almost 18 years, celebrating April 5th, and I've I tell my wife, you've put up with me for 18 years. Thank you. And it's it's been a pleasure to to serve the community though, you know, my wife and myself. So, I just wanted to go ahead and give a scripture here in in in the in the Bible. It says in Mark 11:24 says, "Therefore, I tell you, whatever you ask in prayer, believe that you have received it and it will be yours." It will be yours. And so, I want to go ahead. We're going to pray. And we're going to pray for provision over Meny. We're going to pray for protection over the city of Meny. We're going to pray um blessings over the city council, the government council, the police, the firefighters, the one the families, right? And all you all because it's so important that we pray and believe for these things. I know you may have some petitions you're coming forth and let's pray for those petitions and see how everything just develops because we know we serve a God who loves us and who cares about us. So, can we do that right now? Can we all bow our heads and pray this prayer out and just agree with me? Lord, we come before you in the name of Jesus. And we thank you so much for this wonderful city that you have given us, Lord God. This city that we live in, the city of Meny. Lord, we bless this city, Lord. We dedicate
this city to you. And we thank you, God, because you have been providing for each one of us, Lord God. Oh, yes, we've gone through things in life. Yes, there's been struggles and circumstances and storms, Lord, but we know, Lord, that you brought us here, and we're overcoming those things. And so, Lord, I pray for a blessing also over our city government officials here in this room and throughout the surrounding city. Lord God, we pray a blessing over them and provision and protection. We pray Lord God over our police department, everyone who's serving, every officer, every official. Lord, you just bless them. Lord God, give them protection and provision in Jesus name. Lord, we pray for all our firefighters, first responders, the ones who are driving those ambulances and picking up those people who need help. And Lord, I just thank you for their lives. I thank you that you're going to protect them. You're going to bring provision over them and blessings. I pray, Father, for schools and school teachers and the students, Lord God, that attend. I pray, Father, for protection and provision and blessing over them. I pray, Father, for families that live in these cities, Lord God. The surrounding little cities, you know, like Quail Valley and Sun City, Lord God, and you know, obviously Manife, Lord, we know that you love each family, Lord, and you're going to bring that provision and protection and blessing over them. Also, we pray for the businesses that are around here that you just bring forth the provision and blessings and protection. And Lord, we thank you for all that you're going to do. We thank you for this meeting. This meeting belongs to you in Jesus name. And everybody said, "Amen."
Thank you, Pastor Martinez. Yes. All right. So, I see the uh the chair of our veterans and military families advisory committee. Ed Samuelson is here. Veteran of two military service branches. Would you please lead us in the flag salute, Ed? Please salute. Ready. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [clears throat]
Thank you very much. All right. Well, there is no presentations this evening and uh madam clerk, are there any modifications to tonight's agenda? We do. Staff is requesting to pull item 10.7 from the agenda. We were planning on bringing that back in a couple weeks. We received a last minute update from the developer that we need to incorporate.
All right. So, that's on the consent calendar. So, we'll go ahead and uh first of all, can we get get an all in favor of modifying the agenda as requested? All in favor say I. I. Any opposed hearing? None. The agenda is modified by the request of the clerk. Um, let's see. All right, madame clerk. Moving on to item number six, approval of the plot plan for Trader Joe's at the Meny Boardwalk. Item number seven, public comments. Madam clerk, are there any public comments on non-aggenda items for tonight's agenda?
We do. Oh my goodness. All right. Well, then let me read this out and please take heed. Uh, this is the time for members of the public to address the council about items which are not listed on the agenda. The Ralph M. Brown Act limits the council's ability to respond to comments on non-aggendaized matters at the time such comments are made. Each speaker will be allotted up to three minutes on any single item. And let me just tell you, if there's 40 people here to speak on one item and somebody says what she said, it's okay to walk up and say I agree with them and sit down. I'm just saying you have your rights, but I'm just saying. Read the room. All right, Madame Clerk, would you please call the first speaker?
We have Mark Wade followed by Tony Riverto. Good evening. Uh good evening to the council members, acting mayor, city manager, and uh all your assistants. I don't know their name. So, but uh my name is Mark Wade. Uh I live in Sun City on Portsmouth Drive on the closed golf course. We had a meeting with Wade Hall who's uh a representative of Ambient community. Very disappointing meeting. According to Mr. Hall. No fines from the city code enforcement have been levied on ambient, which was a surprise to me. Meanwhile, dead trees, weeds, rodents, and palm trees, which need attention abound. Mr. Hall stated, "Let the palm trees fall." He didn't care. In the meeting, people asked about watering. He replied, "The irrigation system was broken." And everybody chimed in, "Then fix it." Silence from him. The fire hazard is becoming very worrisome. Uh we get heavy winds down those fairways and fire can wreak havoc in our community if one got started there. We have lots of palm trees that are not trimmed, rats everywhere. It's pretty sad actually. Uh
about 7 years ago, I spoke with the city manager Armando there and uh regarding the fact that the senior area could use a park. I still think that and the perfect spot would be the acreage between McCall and Cherry Hills called the island that used to have five golf holes on it. We're still waiting, Armando. Okay. Uh when Ambient presents their plans for a thousand or so homes to the city and requests a zone change and if the city acquiesces to their plan, it will trigger a lawsuit brought by the homeowners association against the city. We don't want that. But uh we are organizing against these developers and the highdensity building that they propose and we hope the city of Meny will back our senior community and uphold our CCNRs. I thank you for your time and uh have a good evening. Next speaker
Tony Rivero followed by Mark Adams.
Bob, I don't have time to edit this if there's any redundancies. Okay. All right, so here we go. Good evening, mayor and council members and everyone else here in attendance. I'm Tony Rodido and I live along the Cherry Hills Golf Course in the 55 plus community. I have attended development development meetings with Ambient since the first one at the Fairfield where hundreds of out outraged residents showed up. At a recent meeting, Wade Hall stated that he would soon be submitting housing plans to the city. That's why you're seeing the turnout of concerned residents, which is just the beginning on that. Wade wants to skip steps. He wants to address this. We So, we want to address this now before it moves any further because this affects the entire Sun City community and we simply just don't want it. We are all seniors who made intentional decisions about where to spend this chapter of our lives. We chose homes that had open space behind us, a golf course zoned recreation. We chose peace, quiet, and unobstructed nightly sunset views, which are part of our daily quality of life. I gave you some photos of my view there so you can understand how that would be a bad thing. I'll show anyone who wants to see it after. This isn't just land to us. It's something we live with every day. It has meaning, peace, and value beyond ambience. profit margin. Ambient wants highdensity housing, well over a thousand homes on the golf course. That would mean years of construction, two-story structures that block our view, and pedestrian paths that would run directly along our backyards where most of us only have three foot uh chain link fences, which would cause crime, easy crime. So, and then to say nothing about the strain on the grid, challenges with infrastructure, yada yada. Many of us, including myself, already already live on buzzy streets. We do not want
another street behind our homes. There are also county and state concerns tied to this land that make this proposal even more problematic. There are environmental impacts as well, including bird protection of cranes, egrets, and owls, but are still present in that area today. an amenities committee from our community provided uh great uh recreational ideas at the meetings with Ambient uh that align with that zoning. They were ignored because Ambient wants dense housing in our backyards, plain and simple. Finally, our CCNR state that 70% of the golf course facing homeowners must approve a drastic change like this. So, I ask you, please see this through our eyes. there are plenty of other places they can build houses and each of you represent our voices and I know you all and I would want your legacy as a council members to reflect that especially in this pivotal moment in time. So thank you. I made it.
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Mark Adams followed by Pamela Herb. My name is Mark Adams. I'm sorry I'm not a public speaker, so it's going to be short and sweet. Um, I live on Creststone in Sun City and it is part of a horseshoe that ties into Decar and into Allentown and they're both off of Gross Point basically at the top of the hill at the top of the Horseshoe Creststone. All I didn't notice there hasn't been that much damage on Allentown, but cracks going across the street are pretty prevalent in those two streets. I can give you examples of two addresses on Creststone and that would be 2675 26055. These two homes have more than one crack going across the street in front of them. Why these people aren't screaming bloody murder, I have no idea. Uh, Decatur 27570 and 27590. Um, that's it. Thank you very much. Thank you. Uh, Mr. Adams. Nick Fidler, can you hear me in there in the bullpen? Um, this gentleman right here in the glass booth with his hand just just up right now, that's Nick Fiddler. He's our public works director. I'm going to ask you to speak with him for a minute so he can um get some information about those streets and maybe we can send somebody out to take a look. Next speaker, please.
Hi. Um, good evening, mayor and council member and city um
officials. Thank you so much. I'm Pamela Ibe and um I live on Cherry Hills West. I am also the president of the association. So I'm here uh in representation of everyone on my 36 units where um I who live. First I just want to address what has been addressed so far. I want to address the fire safety because this is a large now dry property and it's next to an established senior community. While the grass has been mowed, there are still unmaintained palm trees with dead fronds, which are known to be ladder fuels, and it's a serious fire hazard. There's also a tree that's knocked over, just laying there dead. We have the winds that go through, a fire could start. Many residents are seniors, obviously, and the evacuation um for an emergency is already a concern. It's increasing density and allowing unsafe vegetation conditions only to make this uh uh risk worse. Also, after they cut things down, all these bugs came all over the place. I was infested with bugs in our house, those uh snapper pincher bugs, even some getting it. It was terrible. I I I had about 40 of them. I had to call out the exterminator. So, it's just not being maintained properly at all. And we have to live right right behind it. The community was also designed and marketed as a quiet, lowdensity retirement area centered around open space. But many of us chose to live here, especially for that reason. Changing this land from open space or recreational use into dense housing would fundamentally alter the character of our neighborhood and the quality of life for existing residents. I really respectfully ask the city to preserve this current zoning. That's what it was zoned for. That's what we paid for our home. We paid extra for this house and to protect the integrity of this longestablished senior community. And my last thing is I'm really concerned about the impact that any largecale development would have on our um infrastructure. Roads in this area are already limited and increased
traffic could affect uh both daily life and emergency response times. In addition, we live in a drought-prone region. Adding hundreds or potentially thousands of homes raises serious questions about long-term supply, water, and sustainability. Um, I really respect and request the city to carefully evaluate these impacts and require a full environmental impact report before considering any zoning or change. Thank you. [applause] Thank you. Next speaker. No other speakers.
Did you put your name in? No. All right. Going once, going twice. [snorts] That's it. All right. Sold. Moving on. Uh, next is the time for city council to provide any updates or comments on meetings and events that they have attended. We'll start at the far right with council member Dedrich.
Thank you, acting mayor. Um, since our last meeting, I had lunch with representative from the Meny Police Officers Association. I attended the Rotary Gala where both our former mayor Zimmerman and Chamber uh Chamber of Commerce employee Damon Hunnman both received awards at that. So that was a great experience. Then on the 24th I attended the Chamber Morning Mixer at the Mat, the new laundromat/c coffee shop. On the 25th, I attended for the fifth annual all-star field day, the um special needs special Olympics uh at the school district. Then on the 26th attended the chamber board meeting. Also right after that attended the welcome home Vietnam veteran ceremony, which love that one and unfortunately Dean Dinus is not here tonight to talk about that, his baby. Um on the 27th attended live jam on the 28th uh attended a sunrise hike with the chamber and city staff at our new Meny Hills property to discuss potential future uses there. And then finally on the 30th attended former police chief Carr's retirement ceremony. So been a busy couple of weeks.
Busy couple of weeks. Good report. Council member Temple. Yes sir. On the 24th I also attended the uh Wake Up Meny Chamber event at the Mat. Um it was I thought it was pretty amazing to see all the uh the representatives of businesses here in Miny at that event. So that was good to see. Um on the 26th I also attended the ceremony welcome home Vietnam vets. On the 27th in the evening I attended a uh live jam music event in Sun City which was very good. Uh 28th I also was with Ben. We hiked the Meny Hills with the uh chamber and other uh city officials. And then on the 30th, uh, I too attended the retirement celebration for Chief Carr.
Thank you very much. Um, I will note that we saw Council Member Dinus at the Welcome Home Vietnam Veterans event, which was a spectacular event. He's the one who kind of brought it to the city's attention and it's grown every year. So, love uh to see that for him. Um, I uh over the last couple weeks, I attended two of the ambient communities meetings. So, the folks who were speaking about the golf course. I actually attended two of those meetings myself to hear from them personally. Um, I'll let you know right now just by way of an update. They said that within 60 days they're going to be submitting some applications to the city, but as of today, nothing's been submitted. Nothing's been approved. We don't have any official uh drawings or anything from them. So, at this point, it's just them telling the community what's going on, but nothing official has happened on the side of the city yet. Um, I uh attended the Riverside County Transportation Commission budget and implementation committee. Nothing Menipentric there. I uh with Council Member Dinus. I'm pointing to him like he's here. Um, Council Member Dinus and I attended the Oasis uh community town hall. It was packed room and got to answer a lot of questions from the community. Thank you to Gloria Sanchez from our senior advisory committee for moderating that. Did an excellent job keeping people on track there. Again, welcome home Vietnam vets. We were all there for that. Um, on last Friday, I attended a 7-hour Western Riverside Council of Government special meeting. Uh, that's what I do for you people. And at the end of the meeting, it was it was a personnel discussion and at the end of the meeting, it was reported out. The meeting itself was a closed session, but they reported out at the end that executive director uh Kurt Wil, Dr. Kurt Wilson, was terminated at the end of that meeting. Um, more on that I'm sure will come to light as the meetings become public, but that was a long day. Uh, I attended the city springfest which was great. Our egg hunt, we had egg hunts for all ages, including adults. There was an adults egg hunt which was
fantastic and a special and a special needs egg hunt which just tremendous event. It's growing every year. So, if you get a chance to go to that, the following day on Sunday, I was at the Moms of Meny group. They had their own springfest over at Valleywides Veterans Park. That was a cool event, too. And then we were uh the three of us were there at Chief Carrer's retirement ceremony as well. And that's all I got. Anybody forget anything? Nope. Good to go. Moving on. All right. There's one set of minutes for the council's consideration. Does the council have any modifications to the uh the minutes before us which were from the March 18th meeting? No modifications. So, can I get in all in favor of approving the March 18th minutes? All in favor? I. Any opposed? Dean. Nope. Hearing none. Uh, it is, uh, approved. Now we're on to the consent calendar. All matters on the consent calendar are to be approved in one motion unless a council member requests a separate action on a specific item on the consent calendar. If an item is removed from the consent calendar, it will be discussed individually and acted upon separately. Unless otherwise directed by a member of the city council, the vote on ordinance adoptions will reflect the prior action of each council member when the ordinance was introduced. However, if a council member is not present at the city council me, their vote will be reflected as absent. And then, madame clerk, we do have item number 10.7 was taken from off the consent calendar. Uh, are there any requests to speak on the consent calendar?
No requests. All right, council. Is there any items that you wish to pull from the consent calendar for separate discussion? Hearing none, can I get a motion to approve the consent calendar and a second? I'll move. I'll second. Consent calendar passes 3 to zero. Onto our public hearing items. Item number 11.1 is the first reading and introduction of an ordinance amending ordinance number 2025406. Um, could I uh let's see. You're not Director Fiddler. May we please have Director Fiddler introduce the item?
Good evening, uh, acting Mayor Carwin and council members. Tonight, Chris Jensen on my staff will be providing the presentation for this public hearing. Good evening, acting Mayor Carwin, council members. Um this um actually is a WRCOG associated item, but I will try not to make it take seven hours for you.
So um the item that we have before you tonight um for consideration is an amendment to the city's transportation uniform mitigation fee or TUM program. The um fee ordinance that we currently have in effect um was was approved in April of last year. And so we have a couple of small changes. The last approval that we had of an ordinance was for um kind of a a major redo through our Nexus study for the fees. Um this amendment is actually just looking to update language to clarify a couple of the definitions for residential land use, specifically single family residential land use and multifamily residential land use. And then we're also looking to establish an automatic annual adjustment for um the construction costs um and get some changes kind of going on a regular basis so that we're keeping pace with those for our projects. And I'm probably going to mess this up. Oh, [clears throat] okay. Um I also have Cameron Brown, program manager here from WRCOG, um who's available to answer any questions. So, super quick overview. Um, we all know that the TU program was established to um as a mechanism to make sure that we are able to fund regional projects that can support growth in the area. the funds or the program does not fund um local road work but it does um supply funding for projects that are approved and on the regional TU network. The fees, like I mentioned, are established by Nexus studies. And when those Nexus studies or changes are come around, participating jurisdictions adopt those changes through ordinances. And then we actually update our fees through a resolutions, which is why you
see both an ordinance and a resolution tonight on your item. the fee is assessed to new development um so that they're paying their fair share of the impacts that they're bringing um as the the new um growth is happening here. And WRCOG actually administers the program. They collect the fees and then distribute that out to the various agencies um as program or as projects are approved. The blue box on the right of the screen um gives you kind of the the list of the land use fee categories that these fees are um assessed on. So jumping right in to our residential land use definition updates, you can see the current definition for multif family residential unit um is pretty short. Um it's defined as a structure with two or more legal independent residential dwelling units intended for human habitation. Um the modified version actually is going to be very helpful to not only WR COG staff but also city staff because we get a lot of questions about what a legal independent residential dwelling unit really is. So, the modified version really clarifies that we're talking about a physically attached dwelling unit that is attached to one or more other dwelling units by a shared wall, floors, ceilings, a roof, or some other structural item. The other update to the definition is really just providing information about ADUs. We get a lot of questions on, you know, if you have an ADU on a property, is it considered two separate single family dwelling units? And no, they are not. They are actually exempt from the TUP
program. Um, and so the the language is being put here kind of to clear that up because that's normally the next question that we get. So the next definition update is for a single family residential unit. Um similar to the multifamily, we really expanded on what physically detached means this time. Um again being detached from any other dwelling unit, not sharing a common wall, not sharing a floor, ceiling, roof or structure. And then again, the same language about the ADU um exemptions for TUM um were added. So the third item in terms of the amendments is the construction cost index adjustment. And I'm sure that acting mayor Carwin has probably heard about this a few times in some of his um WRCOG meetings, but what we are looking to do the construction cost index or the CCI um would adjust the fees to bring the construction costs um kind of more current with what we're seeing. So many of these projects on the temp list are approved years ahead of being constructed. So having something a CCI kind of like a CPI increase um keeps us current and make sure that the fees that we are collecting are going to be able to support those projects when they do come to fruition. WRCOG worked on the CCI and they used two approved construction cost indices, the National Association of Realators indicy and then the engineering news
record construction cost index and they kind of use a blend of that to determine what that increase will be annually. The amendment itself is actually looking to not only implement this first CCI as of July 1st of this year at a 2.6% 6% um amount, but also to include language in the ordinance that would make this adjustment automatic every year. Right now um everything I believe goes through the WCOG executive committee has to get approved there and then has to be brought back, but we would just kind of automate um the item that was decided on um or the CCI that's decided on to come back. So the one important thing here is that the CCI is capped. So it's not going to go crazy. Um it would be implemented annually at the lower of the percentage change of those indices over the last year period. I think that they're looking at a September kind of cut off every year. And then it would be capped at the lower of that change or 5%. And then in terms of the fee itself that we are looking at um in relation to the resolution that is on this item to be approved, the table that we've got there, kind of the last column of that table will show you the fee change with the CCI applied. So we don't have to stand up here and say that the temp program is pretty key, pretty important to us in terms of um many of the projects for our city and for the region. Um we have a lot of past, current, and future projects that are supported by the TUMF program. Um so we've got a list of them there. A number of interchanges, the Holland Road
overcrossing we just completed. We've got some grade separations, a railroad crossing coming up um in the near future, and then a number of widenings um all that have some portion of the uh funding for the project coming from TUM. So with that, we would ask that you would hold a public hearing to intro and and then introduce the ordinance um to amend ordinance number 2025406 to modify the definitions and to establish the CCI adjustments and then also adopt the resolution implementing the initial CCI. Um, just so that you're aware, the resolution, while we are approving it tonight, um, would not go into effect until the ordinance itself ha was had a second reading and was was passed and adopted. So, um, that's all I've got.
Thank you, Miss Jensen. Uh, council members, do we have any questions for staff on the technicalities here? Um, I have one. If you could pull up slide number five, please. Oh, now you're you're testing me, huh? I am. Just with regard to the the automatic increase that's built into the ordinance, I see here that t adjusted annual at lower of blended percentage change in indices above or 5% and then below that it says that the increase for 26 is going to be 2.6%. So what is the permanent ongoing increase that's going to be built into the ordinance?
So it would be established every year. They would be looking at those indexes to to determine what the change was in the costs and then it if it's 3% it would be 3%. If it came back at 5.5% for some reason it would be capped at 5%. Okay. So the 5% is the cap. Yes. And then if the uh the the indices are below that it would be that number. Correct. Got it. Okay. That's all I had to that's thing I just want to make sure I fully understood. Any other questions? [snorts] All right. Madam clerk, can you please confir Oh, I'll open the public hearing at 6:36. Madam clerk, can you confirm that the hearing was uh properly noticed and to let us know whether any correspondence has been received?
The public hearing was legally noticed and no correspondence was received. Do we have any requests to speak on this item? No public comments. Okay, I'll go ahead and close the public hearing at 6:36 and 25 seconds. Uh council, do we have any questions or anything we'd like to discuss about this item? Seems pretty straightforward to me. All right, madame clerk, say seeing no comments. Oh, were you trying to speak? Oh, going to the other room. Okay. I thought I got you. Um, all right. So, madam clerk, uh, let's see. Would you please introduce the ordinance?
An ordinance of the city of California, [clears throat] amending ordinance number 2025-46 to modify certain def definitions and to establish construction cost index adjustments to the Western Riverside County Transportation Uniform Mitigation Fe. All right. So, are we doing two votes here or just one? Yes, please. One to introduce the ordinance, another one to adopt the resolution. Okay. So, it's one to for the ordinance and the second one to adopt the resolution. Okay. So, can I get a motion and a second to adopt the resolution as presented? So, moved.
Second. And that passes 300. And that clears item number 11. We don't need a second vote on that. One more motion to introduce the ordinance. Got it. Okay. I read the title. Now we have to vote on that. Then please, the floor is yours, Madam Clerk. You want me to read it again? No. Can I get a motion and a second?
All right. Can we get a motion and a second to uh introduce the introduction of an ordinance? Right. Yeah, I'll move. All right. Fair enough. And that passes 30 as a surprise to no one. All right. Now on to uh let's see item number 12.1. First reading and introduction of an ordinance amending the Menipe Municipal Code to update improving security requirements consistent with California law and city procedures. Director Fidler, would you please introduce the item?
Well, good evening again. Uh tonight, Chris Jensen will also be presenting on this topic. Thank you. you're just here to introduce her all night. Okay.
Hello again. So, this discussion item um is as the title states for an ordinance that would amend section seven of our municipal code which deals with subdivisions. And specifically we are looking at the sections of the code that address um our securities like our performance bonds and our our material and labor bonds that are required for our private developments and our public works projects. So the purpose of the proposed amendments is first and foremost there have been a few changes in government code that um have happened since we last updated these sections of the municipal code. So we're looking to bring those into alignment with the government code. The changes that are being proposed actually clarify the improvement security requirements. um they they help us help our developers understand what's required. They explain the types of securities that are required for different types of improvements like survey monuments or actual um public improvements or grading. They also establish the amount of security in all cases. This is based on the cost of construction um sometimes plus an additional 10% um to kind of warranty the work that's being done and then the the forms of security. So some securities can be in a form of like a shity bond maybe a cash and loo maybe a lean on a property others the payment bond specifically must be a shity bond. So, we kind of had all of this cleanup happen as a result of the third bullet
there. We had um we had been working with the city attorney's office for quite a while um in an effort to streamline our processes for development um and make sure that we're supporting our strategic goals for a thriving economy. And that's one of kind of the the objectives of that. So, we took a look at how we were handling the um multiple um agreements that we had for development and had an opportunity to go through all of them, consolidate where we could so we didn't have 15 different agreements on on one property and um also establish template agreements that are locked down and fillable. And by working through that with the city attorney's office, we have been able to not have to um submit those for legal review every single time because there is no language changing. We literally are filling in names and numbers. In the event that we do have something where a developer says, "Hey, I don't like this language or I want to talk about how we address this item." In those cases, we obviously would take everything back through legal. Um, but this in itself has really really helped staff as well as I think the development side in terms of understanding what to expect. Kind of closed our timelines down a little bit in our processing. Um, and then it's also helped with them understanding the processes for having securities released when that time comes. So all of these changes are changes that we had already made in our templates months back and now with this amendment, our code is going to be
consistent with what our um with what our agreements say. So, so I kind of already mentioned we're looking at the amendments addressing types of agreements for improvements, security bond amounts, types of securities required, forms allowable, and the release procedures. These are the specific sections that are being amended through this request. Um, section 7.4.030 030 is the section that deals with our survey monuments. And just as a highlight, one of the things that changed is that we did establish this this type of improvement may have a standalone agreement. If it's just a situation where it's a non-mapped property, but they're doing work in the public rightway and they've got to put survey monuments in. or it can be combined with other improvements like through a subdivision improvement agreement that would also have roads and drainage and all the other things for the project. One second. So the next section section 7.80.050 is our subdivision improvement requirements. The biggest change here is that previously um we had some um options I guess of what kind of payment bond would be we could take. Um I think it kind of left it to the uh to the director of the city engineer to decide what type of payment but government code actually states that we can only take a shity bond for pay a payment security which is your labor and material security. The next section um actually just kind of removes some duplications um that
were added as a um result of the amendments to the section above it. And then lastly, section 7.90 is all of our grading requirements. So this includes public and private grading. Um some of the biggest changes there are that again performance bonds are always required on grading projects and payment bonds are always required. The differences for public grading projects. So, anything that is going to be graded as a road or drainage or if a developer is going to build a park and then um hand it over to us, um those securities have to be established based on 100% of the construction cost. When you move into the private grading projects, we actually have the um ability to base those securities on 50% of the construction costs. And the reason for that is is because we will not be taking ownership um of the project work that's being done. So for example, if a commercial lot is grading, they've got to get grading bonds, but they're not going to be the same kind of bonds as if they were grading and they had to do street improvements. The minute that we touch a public rightway, it jumps us right back up to the 100%. So those are our amendments. Our recommended action again is to conduct a first reading of the ordinance. Um, and we'll come back with a second reading in April and it'll be effective 30 days after that. So, sometime midmay if this is all approved. [cough]
All right, that the end of the presentation. Any questions? I'm sorry. Uh, do we have any questions for staff on this item? No. All right. Do we have, Madam Clerk, do we have any requests to speak on this item? We do not. All right. Uh, anything to discuss? Seems pretty straightforward. All right. Madam clerk, would you please introduce the ordinance?
An ordinance of the city of Manif, California, amending Meny Municipal Code section 7.40.030780507.8060. 8060, 7.90, 090, and 7.90120 to update man uh improvement security requirements consistent with California law and city procedures. All right, I'll go ahead and move to approve. Can I get a second?
I'll second. And that passes 30. This one's a one-parter, right? Yep. Okay, so we're all done with that one. Thank you very much. Moving on to item number 12.2, the regional sports facility discussion. Director Mitchell, thank you. Good to see you. Please introduce the item for us.
Absolutely. So, uh, good evening, acting mayor, council, and many residents. Uh, Mariana Mitchell, committee services director, and it's my pleasure to bring forward to you tonight, um, a presentation on a discussion about regionals regional sports facilities. So what I plan to do is walk through some context uh highlight some opportunities that are already emerging within the community and then uh frame how future policy decisions could shape what's possible um moving forward. So this stems from um a future agenda item request that was brought forward last May and essentially asking city staff to take a closer look at what uh feasibility would be for a regional sports facility here in Meny. And so as we started working through this uh feature agenda item request, it really kind of came to light that this is so much bigger than just a conversation about a park. [snorts] Um when we talk about that regional sports facility aspect of it, it really touches so much more um things like economic development, our land use planning and really long-term fiscal sustainability. So really kind of taking the context of looking at this from the broader lens beyond just park planning. So with that in mind, I wanted to take the opportunity to kind of review um the urban 3 land use analysis that was presented to city council late last year. And really the key component or theme that was brought forward to us is essentially that land is one of our most limited and valuable resources. And so how we choose that land, how we choose to use that land has direct impact on revenue, infrastructure, and long-term sustainability. uh regional recreation facilities can certainly add community amenities but can also uh play a supporting role in economic activity and attracting uh regional visitors. So really the opportunity here is about finding the right balance between how we use these type how these type of uses fit into Meny's overall growth vision but then also how other uses could
potentially financially support this type of project in the future. So, kind of taking a look at what regional sports facilities are. Um, when we talk about them, there really is a wide range of uh what they can look like. It's it's really uh there is no one uh facility or one-sizefits-all. Uh they're often multiport complexes that um have outdoor components, indoor components, even some specialty components like aquatics or equestrian facilities. And really it depends on what the need of the community is is what drives how these are built. And so again looking at um a wide range of approaches um really the the [clears throat] community itself is what drives what these facilities end up looking like. It's based on what the committee's priorities are um what land and resources are available and then also how um the committee chooses to invest in these um items over time. So looking regionally, we've got a few examples that are here across Southern California. Um, as we can see, there's a wide variety of models and again not no single one it looks exactly like the other and uh some cities build and operate some of these facilities on their own, others partner with private operators and some even uh are fully privately developed. So again, that wide range of approaches kind of shows us that, you know, the the level of investment and responsibility differs depending upon again once that what the community's needs are. So there really isn't just one path forward and it's important for us to consider um so much more of what uh the community needs are and what the city's priorities are. So I wanted to zoom in on a regional project that's kind of taken a lot of uh g been given a lot of um press lately. I'm sure you've all heard of the ent the Ontario sports empire. Uh so this is a 190 acre regional sports complex. So
that the city has invested over $100 million in in a phased approach. And so uh this is a great example of what a large scale sports complex looks like uh especially considering that it has a multi- uh use and multi variety of fields, but it's also anchored by a minor league baseball stadium. Um so again uh looking at this uh it's it's unique in its own right because a lot of it has to do with the fact that um the the scale of land that was available in Ontario to make this happen and the fact that it's a regional location and that there's such strong partnerships like their affiliation with the LA Dodgers. So clearly these circumstances are are are much different and they vary from uh Menfy uh Ontario Meny very different locations. But this example kind of allows us to see and understand the wide range of possibilities in in recognizing that projects of this multitude uh can definitely happen with partnerships and over time. So we may not have all of the resources of Ontario. We may not have that airport money, but Meny does have its very own uh exciting opportunities that we want to kind of highlight um as well. And so, one of those is Meny Hills. This is a great example of nearly 400 acres of open space with the potential for regional hiking, mountain biking, outdoor recreation, and essentially this asset creates a different kind of regional destination that doesn't already exist within the um this area. And so really kind of focusing on uh the trails and uh outdoor experiences that lend itself to the greater appreciation of the natural beauty that exists in our own backyard. Um so again already looking at access and connectivity which is currently underway with city staff. Um this is something that we can continue to build on over time. Uh next we have Gail Web Action Sports Park. Uh this is another great example of something that's already working and
that we're looking to continue to invest in. Uh so with over 40,000 annual visits in a year. Uh this um our Gail Webb Action Sports Park is clearly a regional draw in within and around Southwest Versail County, but also creating a draw in LA and Orange counties as well. Uh being one of the largest pump tracks of its kind, it it it makes complete sense why it would be a regional draw in our area. So, what we're hoping to do is looking at uh expanding upon that excess that success by looking at Evans Park North, which is a city-owned parcel right across the way from the pump track. And um we're envisioning expanding on some of the successful items and enhancing the overall um user experience, things like including competition ready features, um grandstands, wood shade, and of course, we can't forget those restrooms. So again, um just really highlighting the fact that we can be intentional with the improvements that we make on on the successes that are already existing with the city and uh uh to expand on what's performing well already and uh again enhancing that regional impact. Uh next we have a another great project in the works. So this is the Meny Valley uh sports park. So this park is identified in the Meny Valley specific plan. It's the northeast uh portion of the city. It's still in the conceptual design, which is why I don't have an actual design to share with you. But we do have a number of images that we use for inspiration. And so, because it was still in design, it really gave us the opportunity to look at um how to create a placemaking asset that this community really deserves. And so with that in mind, we worked with the developer on expanding things that are unique that we we don't already have within the city, such as expanding our aquatics facilities, um having our very own aquatics facilities are that run that are run and maintained by the city. Um
as well as um tournament ready pickle ball courts. I know there's going to be a lot of excitement for that. Um and then also uh looking at flexible open space with event ready components and then also an enhanced dog park. And so with all of these components, it's really looking to be one of our larger parks. It's just over 16 acres and uh will be not only an asset to the community, but also provide us with some uh regional visitor visitors through things like tournaments and um swim meets and things of that nature. And last but not least, we have the uh valleywide Meny Parks landscape maintenance district annexation. So in late 2025, city council provided a direction towards uh beginning a phased approach of the uh valleywide parks into the city park system. Uh starting with the Menipe Parks LMD. So this is approximately 65 acres across 12 parks that would be added to the city's park system which also includes Wheatfield Park which is about 23 acres with six ball fields and would drastically increase our ability to host regional uh activities and tournaments such as leagues um that would uh support the expansion of recreation throughout Meny. So uh it would also create the opportunity to um strengthen our connection with Menipe Hills. this uh would also include Alder Gate Park which is right up against uh Salt Creek Trail in Meny Hills and um you know really trying to integrate connect uh connectivity throughout the city. So at the same time it's important to note that uh this annexation would also um come with expanding our system also creates additional ongoing responsibilities for maintenance and operation. So according to our fiscal uh impact analysis, it would be about $650,000 annually of general fund that would be required to maintain and operate these parks. And that does not include any capital investment. So again, this is a
good example of how expanding amenities both brings uh opportunity but also long-term considerations that need to be balanced over time. And we have our market opportunity report. um econom economic development and community services teams had the opportunity to work with uh an upand cominging uh organization called sports facilities companies that um specialize in regional sports facilities and they were able to provide us with a market opportunity report and so what this report does is give us helpful reference points for what buildout could look like for the city of Medvy and also outlines um whether the general use market would support such a facility and as we've all heard before there's the 2.2 billion sales leakage um that is leaving the the city of Meny and some of that does include our residents who leave Meny to participate in leagues or organized sports and tournaments. So uh for an all-in indoor and outdoor facility uh the cost could to build one out could range up to 130 million and that does not include land acquisition um and could require up to 90 acres of space. Uh it's important to keep in mind that uh this represents a highlevel best case scenario um and values are based on the 2023 construction costs and and ultimately what it comes down to the real value of this report is it really helps us understand scale investment and operational considerations. So, bring this all together, um it's very clear that there's opportunities in Meny to continue expanding its recreational offerings in a way that both serves the community and the region. There are multi way multiple ways to approach this. Um and and it doesn't have to happen all at once. Um but we're already seeing how existing assets and private investments can help uh begin to build upon those foundations. So um from a policy perspective uh there are several items already already anticipated to come
forward for city council consideration uh that will help shape what's possible. So one of those things is the future discussion on parkland dedication as it relates to Quimby and then also uh partnership models uh additionally looking at charitable organizations. So those are future agenda items requested that we will bring back for further consider consideration. And then additionally, there's some upcoming uh updates to the general plan and the recreation and open space elements that are driven by state requirements, but also provides another opportunity to align long-term planning. Uh so taking together these efforts can help guide us towards policies and actions that can continue to build on the momentum that's already taking place here in Meny. So with that, that concludes my report and I'm available for any questions.
Thank you, director. Excellent report. We appreciate that. Um, do we have any questions for the director at this point? Council member Dedrich, this was your item that you brought in. Um, is there anything that you have questions specifically? No questions. We'll get to the discussion. Fair enough. Um, madam clerk, do we have any requests to speak on this item? We do have one and I just want to remind you, council, we did have that letter from uh, Commissioner Peterson and your red folders. We did. Yeah, I had an opportunity to review that. So, if we've got a public speaker, um, go ahead and let's hear the first public speaker. I hope I pronounced this right. Quy. Ah, there you go. Thank you. Childress.
Childress. Yes. How you guys doing? Kind of nervous. In addition to um what she was talking about, uh my family and I moved here about uh a year ago, year and a half ago, and we have our kids in um basketball, travel ball, and um some other sports. And we noticed when we came out here from uh my wife is from Anaheim and I'm from Chino Hills. And we noticed that coming here, there's a lot of teams that are travel ball teams that don't have a facility to practice in. And so they've been using outside, you know, and this it's been the gym uh space has been very limited, right? So what we did was uh because we love Mini, we loved it ever since we moved here. um building a facility having an idea to build a facility out here. So that way you get the traffic from in this area. You have people from San Diego that don't have to travel to Orange County that can come here. Then you have people on the other side, right, which is like Glendale, Los Angeles that can come here versus everybody rushing to Orange County. and that'll bring more uh money and revenue to the city of Meny, you know, especially with the families that are moving here. Uh we've been working with the chamber and um Kayla charter with the city, different people with the city as far as finding uh the land uh as far as where to have it and have it built. Right. So we have the specs and the numbers on it as far as the size of the facility which will be a 10 court uh
facility for basketball and volleyball and uh training like uh sports training in the inside as well. Uh the amount is uh it's only 75 million, right? Um and the name of the the name of the sports complex is Dynasty Sports Complex, right? And so in that what we've been doing is we've been partnering with uh Paloma High School and we started two camps, right? So, we had one camp uh about a month ago and we had about 30 kids because we had to do it on their uh spirit break for school. So, we had about 30 kids and then this week because of the spring break week, we've had about uh 70 kids that, you know, was able to participate. And then we have a mailing list of over 200 uh parents and families that are interested [clears throat] in building a uh sports complex, right? Because you have people from uh Myetta and Tmacula that are interested in uh having like a gym in the area so we don't have to drive to Orange County because we we sorry we do that every weekend, right?
Mr. Childress, your three minutes are up. Oh, I'm sorry. All right. Sorry about that. But do you want to sum up? You got one sentence you want to sum up? Yeah. We need the sports facility and we're willing to do anything to have that happen in Mini. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Any other speakers? No other speakers. Thank you very much. All right. Uh this is the time where we uh turn it around to this side and we can have any discussion we want. So uh council member Drier, why don't you lead us off?
Thank you, acting mayor. Yes, I brought this up almost a year ago now to um just to bring it to the forefront of the attention of city staff council of obviously I know [clears throat] regardless of how much I might want it, we're not going to be able to just snap our fingers and have a regional sports park overnight, right? So, this is going to be out of necessity if the council decides to move forward with pursuing this, it would be something over the long term. And I just want to be thinking about this, right? Because we talk about all the time when we're doing our planning, we talk about that Meny has land, right? We have almost 50 square miles, right? We have land. We don't own land. We don't own the 75 to 100 acres that would be needed to create what was discussed in that report. Right? So, [clears throat] it's going to have to be some long-term planning, whether that's with developers, with private public um deals together, or we work together to do that. But I would like to see some progress on this of forward thinking about this. Right? We just acquired those four nearly 400 acres mens which are fantastic. We Dan and I we were just there this last weekend. Right? It's a fantastic opportunity but it's not it's something that's going to be great for our residents but it's not the same thing as what we're discussing here. Right? It's not necessarily going to bring the level of tourism that a regional sports complex might bring. Um, you [clears throat] know, our city is underparked currently, right? And we, as we build, you know, new single family resident tracks, we usually require them to build a park. It's a smaller, more local park. That's different from creating this regional type facility. Another issue that that report shows is that it would be a substantial economic driver for the city if we had that to be able to bring in these tournaments. Um, as Mr. Michel just was just discussing, you know, my own daughter, we she plays volleyball and we're out in Orange County or San Bernardino or something like that. There's nothing local, not
even in our local area where you can go and do that. So that would be great to have not only for our local residents but also for bringing people outside in here. Um, so really what I want to discuss is just keeping this on the forefront of trying to figure out how we might make this happen. Any thoughts from my other two? We're short, too, but we're only going to have to settle with three ideas.
And I I appreciated when you brought this up. Um, you know, I think aside from uh the demand for Trader Joe's, the most talked about thing is the open spaces and the recreational activities, especially for um kids. So, um I agree absolutely with Ben that, um that unless we keep this on the forefront and continue to talk about it and do something that, you know, I I would be afraid it would just sort of go away until somebody thinks it's really important again someday. So um I would like to keep um exploring this so that we can set aside um both funds, lands and have a plan to move forward to do something whether uh whether it's a private public partnership which would be wonderful or some other uh method but that we keep doing this and keep focusing on it.
Yeah. You know um speaking on behalf of council member Dinus, he thinks this is a great idea. Um and his vote will reflect that if I can reach his if I can reach his terminal. So I I you know one of the slides that we saw was a couple of examples of facilities that are in the area um with the Birdsaw Park in Tmacula, Big League Dreams in Paris, uh Silver Lakes in Norcco, and Momentous in Irvine. Um the Momentous Sports Center in Irvine is is wholly private and but it's a tremendous facility. I I spent many many hours there cuz both of my kids played volleyball so they all went through there and that's the kind of thing that we need. Right. So a facility like that costing $130 million for people who don't know our operating budget is $und00 million. So that would be, you know, a year and a half's worth of our entire operating budget to do this facility. So if we were to fund this thing, it would require one of two things. One, 25 years of investment money to to save it up or two, a bond that would put us into some kind of debt for it, which at this point, you know, we're in a really good position. and I don't know if we want to take on 130 to to $150 million bond to build something like that. So, Council Member Temple, I agree with you entirely. I think that the jam on this is a public private partnership that we can work out where we can help them in ways that will help the city. You know, that that Silver Lake Sports Park is just full every single weekend and they do concerts there. Um they it's a multi-use facility and there's a hotel there. I know that there was a volleyball organization who was looking at the Southern Gateway, but it's not the parking wasn't enough. That was the
problem there. So, if you're going to run tournaments, the conferences that organize the tournaments require a certain amount of facility parking that those buildings didn't have. So, I don't I don't even know it's if it's as simple as building a giant parking lot, a public parking lot over there that would that would facilitate it. I don't know if we could buy a piece of land over there close enough to park cars for them to be able to do tournaments over there. If it's something like that that we that is a public private partnership. Um the other thing I noticed in the staff report and the market opportunity report was that we currently don't have any cityowned space to put something like this. you know, we've now we've got I personally would like to see us focus on Menafy Hills as that. You know, there's a lot of uh talk about ball fields and things like that. I don't know that we're going to be able to get the space for ball fields in a public facility, but we do have Meny Hills. And if we could move through that valley wide thing and get those ball fields as kind of a an addition, but if we could, I'd like to see us prioritize Meny Hills as a first kind of regional thing because we already have that property and it's kind of set up for us and then start as new developments come into the fold telling them that we've got a priority. that we want them to prioritize park space and see if we can get some of those through the new developments. That's that's kind of like the the order that I would like to see things I'd like to see Meny Hills get up on get up on um on track as absolutely fast as we can get it because that's something that literally no other city has. I love to tell you we bought a mountain. Like you bought a mountain? Yeah, we bought a mountain. See that mountain over there?
That's ours. and um nobody else has that. And you talk about the views and just the opportunity and and the regional draw and the national draw that that would be. I know that Walmart partnered with um the city of Bentonville, Arkansas to build biking trails and things like that. It's become an international draw for Bentonville, Arkansas. So, you know, I would love to see some sort of partnership like that to prioritize that and then seek out partnerships for bringing some of these other facilities to town. Council member Dedric.
No, I was just going to say that I I think that exactly what the thought was, right, would be Meny Hills. That's e that not easy, but that's quick, right? We can we bought that and now we can attack that and get that up and running, right? We have and it doesn't need buildings.
That's right. Exactly. Yeah. So that's an easy that's an easy that's a lowhanging fruit of what we're discussing, right? And then the valleywide acquisition, right? That's going to take a couple years and that's going to bring that in. So I'm not I'm not at all suggesting, right, we drop everything and spend our next year and a half budget on creating this $150 million complex, right? But it needs to be aware. There needs to be that awareness and that discussion with developers, right, before we do run out of land and there's nowhere to put it, right? I think as future projects come in, especially potentially on the north side of town, right, as things come in, having that as part of a discussion to see where would that be and how would we create that?
Yeah. you know, to that end, uh, on the north side of town and all that area where the industrial and warehousing is coming in, if we could impress upon those developers, hey, as you're developing that out, maybe some sort of entertainment complex rather than just uh logistics, some sort of enter, you know, because there's nothing but wide open space out there. Uh, and they've got plans, but I know that there's no tenants. So, if we could partner them together with some sort of entertainment tenant, they would get everything that they're looking for and then we would also get some of the things that we needed up there. So, that's an opportunity for a partnership that we could probably explore. So I guess that's from my standpoint in this plan a prioritizing this as a city goal is important and then the subset being prioritizing Manify Hills and then prioritizing maybe discussing with those uh Ethan developers to maybe get some sort of indoor facility something along the lines of that momentous thing would be tremendous here because there isn't one in the region as Mr. Childress was saying that you know there there just isn't one. Um and then third being uh as out as developers of of residential complexes come online impressing upon them how we need to carve out a little more space than we need and maybe that's a quimby discussion to have that would incentivize them to do it. Any other comments? I just want to thank staff and council for having this discussion and I just want to impress that my main thought is just to keep this on the forefront as we move forward. Right? So nothing that we discuss and then just disappears again but that we actually put energy towards moving towards.
Good. And as we move forward um the other kind of tangential issue we have that is making sure that all of our parks have lights going into the future. So that maximizes the ability to use the parks that we have because you know in October at 4:00 it's dark and people who want to use those parks for team practices and things like that don't have that opportunity. So let you know making sure that that's in the program as well. Do you have direction director Mitchell? Yes I do. Thank you.
Outstanding. All right which brings us to the home stretch. Madam City Attorney, do you have any updates for us? No updates tonight. All right. Uh, Mr. City Manager, anything to report? Updates? Nothing. Nothing. All right. Uh, so does the city council have any future agenda requests? Seeing none, at 7:15 we are adjourned. Thank you, Metife.
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