Board of Public Safety - Regular Meeting

Thursday, August 13, 2026

The Board of Public Safety received updates on the transition of the police precinct commander and preliminary results from a deer management survey. Discussions on electric bike regulations and heavy truck restrictions on Wild Horse Creek Road were both postponed to a future meeting for further review and input.

About this meeting

Government Body
Board of Public Safety
Meeting Type
Board Of Public Safety
Location
Wildwood, MO
Meeting Date
August 13, 2026

Transcript

51 sections

12:55Speaker 2

The third page.

12:55Speaker 1

No, it's the third page.

12:59 – 13:56Speaker 2

You know, it's just... No, I don't need it. We have it. I understand this story of blank pages with nothing to say. Nous sommes prêts. Nous déclarons ouverte la réunion du Conseil de la sécurité publique de la ville de Wildwood. Nous sommes le jeudi 13 août 2026. Il est 18h01. Nous allons commencer cette réunion par l'appel nominal, s'il vous plaît.

13:57Speaker 1

Marshall Bader.

13:59Speaker 1

Membre du Conseil Gleason.

14:01Speaker 1

Membre du Conseil Loire. Membre du Conseil Wilson.

14:07 – 14:18Speaker 1

The next point in the agenda is the approval of the verbal trial of the June 11, 2026 meeting.

14:19Speaker 2

They should have sent you by mail if everyone had time to examine them. Are there any additions or corrections to be noted?

14:38Speaker 1

Je propose leur approbation.

14:39Speaker 2

J'ai une proposition pour qu'il soit approuvé. Y a-t-il un second ?

14:45 – 15:52Speaker 2

Tous ceux qui sont pour l'ISGU ? Motion adopté. Le procès verbal du 11 juin a été approuvé. Le point suivant est le commentaire public. Avons-nous des commentaires du public aujourd'hui ? Aucun commentaire du public. Passons à la section d'information. Le premier point est la mise à jour concernant la transition du commandant de la circonscription de police de Whitewood. Whitewood. Capitaine Mandel. Evidemment, le département inconnu a un changement à sa tête. Nous avons un nouveau chef de police depuis juin. Notre chef adjoint a été promu chef. Et avec cela, il procède à des changements internes en matière de direction et de personnel. En tant que capitaine, j'ai probablement occupé mon poste ici plus longtemps que tous nos autres capitaines. Nous avons 19 capitaines. I've been here for almost 8 years, in Wildwood. Generally, after about 5 years, the chief overcomes people. The former chief hasn't made these changes. He left it to the new chief to reorganize the department.

15:52Speaker 1

No participants?

15:54 – 18:53Speaker 2

There are other operational changes there. Yes. So, I'm replaced by Captain Shanna Ostendorf, a 27-year-old veteran in the police department. Hm? A lot of things I did in my career, she followed more or less the same path in her career. In her career. I worked in our road safety unit as a supervisor. She was there too. I was on staff. She was on staff in the West County circumscription. She was there. She therefore has a certain experience of municipal contracts in Fenton and Valley Park. She was in our planning office in the general district. And from there, she was there as a captain and she was transferred to a unit where she has been for about three years, I think. So basically, we're just exchanging our places. I go to our intelligence unit and she comes here. And so she came these last days. She can't wait to be there, enthusiastic about the idea of ​​this new mission. C'est doux à mer. Évidemment, j'ai aimé être ici et y travailler. C'est une grande partie de ma vie et j'ai beaucoup de documents accumulés pour le prouver. Et... Ils vont malheureusement à la déchiqueteuse. Eh bien, tout d'abord, merci au nom du Conseil pour tout le temps que vous avez passé à Wildwood. Et deuxièmement, félicitations. Devenir commandant de l'unité de renseignement n'est pas une mince affaire. C'est des gens stupides. Congratulations to you. I will be happy. It's a new installation at Maryland Heights. It's great. Obviously, it's brand new, so it makes things really great. But you know, we would certainly be delighted if you wanted to organize a meeting up there. You know, as a visit to the facilities and what we're doing there, I can certainly organize it. And as Jimmy said, Captain, excuse me. Captain Ostendorf has been in the department for a long time. She worked for me as a police officer in the city of Fenton when I was commander there. So she understands the municipal contracts, she understands the police department of the county in depth. So if we had to lose you, it's a good replacement. The next point is an examination of the regulations on the bow hunting and the survey on the surfing management policy. Just an overview of the survey and preliminary results. I know this document was 32 pages long. Do not hesitate to go to the essentials. So I will do my best to do exactly that. Obviously Thomas is not with us tonight. He apologizes.

18:53Speaker 1

I know he really wanted to be there.

18:56 – 21:01Speaker 2

He took that into his own hands and I think he did a good job on a difficult subject, the situation of the serfs, whatever it is. So this investigation was launched in July and he worked with Professor Memes to compile the answers. It was sent to 600 homes, I think 200 random selections per neighborhood. to get feedback on the management and more specifically on the possibility of combining plots to create more opportunities for archery. Most of the questions therefore concern this point or this aspect of your management. I don't want to interrupt you, but the joint piece contained a copy of the investigation. I'm sorry. If you have read it, it is presented to you today as an informative It was also presented on Monday evening to the municipal council, mainly for information. Thomas intends to work with the professor to list the written answers received during the investigation, provide documentation and present everything to the council on September 14, and I suppose potentially to this committee as well. So I think you will see this question again. Certainly, but the rate of response has been good. I think it was about 31%. If you read the answers, they show a certain support for the consolidation of the properties, either towards a minimum of one acre, or towards a minimum of three acres. This is probably the question on which the municipal council will wait for the 14th that the staff suggests an orientation. If this is the case, I am sure that these recommendations will be submitted to this committee for examination first of all.

21:01Speaker 1

Legislative editorial.

21:04 – 21:57Speaker 2

I noted a few points in the investigation. It was a question of reducing the size of the lots or the authorized area. To an acre, it seems a lot. But in fact, what does it represent? 75% of a football field. Are these points that the municipal council will examine? I think they will simply take this survey, study it and come back with suggestions to examine. They can do a number of things. They can decide not to give a follow-up. They can recommend to the council to take measures, to formulate more precise recommendations. They could send a specific recommendation to the committee for a thorough evaluation. So I can't really say which direction they intend to take for now.

21:57Speaker 1

It's a pretty...

22:02 – 24:06Speaker 2

I wouldn't say complicated question, but it is certainly important to address it well. Personally, I find that this survey was a really valuable source of information. At the beginning, when this committee dealt with this issue, before most of you were involved, maybe Kevin was there, he was recognized that the combination of properties could be a good way to encourage the hunt for the bow. And every time this problem was raised, the immediate reaction of people is that they don't want it. I think the investigation shows that this is not necessarily true. So, I think there is certainly an interest from the hunters to participate more and to be part of the solution. So I think it's something to consider. It's just my personal opinion. And you're right, 5, you know, they got 31% of the answers, which is high for an investigation, but I'm still surprised that only 500 people out of 1,600 chose to answer. But it's not out of the ordinary. They still have a good participation in the investigation. This leads me to wonder if the other people don't simply worry about it. And as I say, it's not a criticism, it's just my perception of things. If I remember correctly from the investigation, one of the important points was to consider reducing the minimum size of the necessary plot for the arch hunt from three acres to perhaps one acre. There were questions about the possibility for the neighbors to regroup their land to reach the required surface for the hunt. I imagine that this would force Whitewood to modify its municipal stops.

24:09Speaker 1

Yes, certainly in the changes.

24:10 – 24:47Speaker 2

Currently, the minimum is 3 acres for hunting. So, if it was decided to reduce this threshold or to authorize the regrouping of properties, this would again require changes in the code. I am waiting for this to pass through this council to examine these legislative changes before the final validation by the municipal council. The question, I don't want to put you on the bench, but I was asked this question and I don't have the answer. Someone asked me if a lotissement has, let's say, five acres of common land, can this lotissement grant permission to a archer in the limit of the three acres required?

24:51Speaker 1

I mean, there are other conditions. It can't be near houses. You can't shoot across the roads and everything else.

24:57 – 26:13Speaker 2

So if it's bigger than three acres, they can do it. Now, what we see with leasing is the regulations and I think that what we are going to be confronted with is that many do not authorize it. They will not authorize it as an association of owners or it could be included in their acts that prohibit it. There is also another aspect that I think I have discovered more recently concerning this possibility of combining properties. According to my exchanges with Joe Vinnich, our director of urbanism, he thinks that the current zoning code would not allow hunting on a field of one acre. So, if the idea is to combine fields of one acre to reach the minimum of three acres, this would probably require the passing of urbanism and zoning commissions. And for the sake of the discussion, even if three people each had one acre and grouped them together to reach the minimum of three acres, they should always respect the regulations of the state of Missouri on hunting, as well as the prohibitions concerning roads, houses, schools and all the rest. This is always the case for hunting and fauna. We must respect all the requirements of the state and title of a permit, this kind of thing. In addition to the requirements that we have set up.

26:21Speaker 1

No, not yet.

26:24 – 27:16Speaker 2

If I understood the report prepared by Tom, the professor will present a more detailed analysis on this subject in the future. Once again, this will be during the meeting of the Municipal Council on September 14th. One of the things I understood is that a certain number of written comments were provided with the investigation and he compiles them, therefore in a presentable format, as best he can. There will therefore be more information, but the results of the investigation will obviously not change. The answers of the participants to the investigation are what they are, but the file will come back and I think that the hope is that there will be a discussion with the municipal council and an orientation. Have I seen in the answers to the investigation that an important number of people preferred not only the hunt at the bow, but also a professional management or a professional management of the herd, or even a combination of the two?

27:16Speaker 1

I think it's exact, I don't know. What was the question?

27:24 – 28:23Speaker 2

But I think it showed an almost equal support, maybe at this level. That's what I noticed. I noticed that for a lot of questions, there seemed to be an equal support on almost all. Yes, you can see on the graphics here. I think it's this one. So the one in the middle, the highest peak, is the one that indicates that both are preferred. Yes, professional. And hunting. I mean, I... My personal point of view would be that even if we have a professional slaughter service, we will always have hunting. So this will happen in both cases.

28:23Speaker 1

It is not forbidden.

28:25 – 29:43Speaker 2

It is certainly important and I think it has always been said, with the professional help provided by White Buffalo, that hunting must be an important part of the equation, at least, to reduce the herd and maintain the population after this initial effort. Because it would also be more targeted, contrary to the general authorization, where once they are open, they can do what they want. Effective. So you don't have any range of maneuvers to target here. So what do we have to do tonight? There is no required measure regarding this point. It is informative, except if you have specific questions about the study. We can certainly answer them and try to provide you with this information. Otherwise, C'est juste pour information. Tu as remarqué que dans le rapport de Tom, il a également évoqué le fait qu'il y avait un certain intérêt à recontacter Wade Buffalo à ce sujet. Mais je pense que c'était... Il y a un intérêt de la part de certains.

29:45Speaker 1

Mais je ne crois pas que cela ait recueilli les votes nécessaires, si je me souviens bien.

29:50 – 30:23Speaker 2

Well, it appeared on Monday evening during the presentation to the municipal council. A motion was passed and ended with an equal vote. It was seven against seven. The motion aimed at the city administration to essentially contact White Buffalo for a hunting proposal for the slaughter of the next winter. So it was an equal vote. The mayor therefore had to disperse and he voted against. For the moment, we do not contact White Buffalo for a proposal. On peut supposer que cela pourrait changer, mais c'est la direction actuelle.

30:26Speaker 1

Parce que nous avons manqué leur cycle de trois ans.

30:29Speaker 2

Ils devaient intervenir pendant cinq ans. Et nous avons manqué la troisième année.

30:36Speaker 1

Des questions de la part de quelqu'un ?

30:41 – 41:42Speaker 2

Bien, passons au point suivant. In current affairs, examinations of regulations on electric bikes and recreational transport devices, educational tables, potential changes. I can start with that if you want, unless you want to take care of it, Captain. The point I wanted to raise with the members of the Council is that this is in order. of the day for an action. However, Julie is not among us tonight. She is very interested and has become an expert in the matter, given that three members of the council and a captain will not be there at the next meeting. If you want to report the action on this subject, I think it would be. I propose to report this at the next meeting for several reasons that you have just denounced. And in addition, I think that The member of the committee would like to be present when we discuss it. There are a lot of things to assimilate, there is a lot to dig into. There is a lot, the school will have resumed and maybe things will have changed. If there are questions or specific concerns at this stage, we will certainly do our best to try to transmit this information. Otherwise, if you want to make a motion to report it at the next meeting, I can give you a brief overview of the current situation. Is it appropriate now? So, obviously, we started this... Problems probably appeared during the spring holidays. I think it was in March. Maybe a little before, when we started to have electric bikes, motorcycles, bikes... electric scooters that, you know, various equipment have various speeds that can reach. One of our agents, you know, told me that he was driving on the road at 55 kmh and that he was following the rhythm of a young man on a sidewalk at 55 kmh. So, I don't know what he was on, but it was a good engine. So, the attention was really drawn to the places where the public is frequently. The city center, particularly the commercial center of Herberg, it's really from this area that most complaints come with people who walk on the bike path or on the paths. Les jeunes qui passent à côté d'eux à vive allure parce qu'ils sont sur quelque chose d'électrique à un... Ils ne peuvent pas les entendre arriver. Et vous savez, beaucoup de frayeurs ont été signés. J'ai demandé. Je ne sais pas si je vous ai demandé ou à mon adjoint lors de notre dernière réunion. Nous n'avons connaissance d'aucun accident grave survenu où un individu aurait percuté une voiture ou aurait été renversé par une voiture. The parking is obviously very fragmented by the vehicles and that's where we had a few breakdowns. And you know, the cars go back or cross the parking and these kids don't look and pass right in front. In addition, at intersections, they burn the stops on these electric or scooter bikes. So the risk is certainly present. Digging into the subject, there are different bike classes. It's what they can do, what is appropriate for a child or not. We know what security equipment they should have. All this starts to come into account. And that's what the administration worked on, the educational component. And that's how we approached it. While the school was ending, it had become an increasingly important problem. We printed brochures with the arrested. And you know, we had frequent contacts with young people. When we met them and we called the parents, the parents had to, you know, come and get them or something else. So, various things were produced. As we moved forward during the summer, I think two additional things were produced. The Dierberg complex over there is entirely owned by Dierberg Marquès. They therefore hired a private security company to post someone there, in order to mainly monitor the parking, because they received a lot of complaints from their tenants on site. We have been more proactive to control this and contact these young people before their safety comes into play. In addition, I think that the fact that we had temperatures exceeding 32 degrees during the last month, I think this has kept a lot of children at home or at friends rather than having them circulate everywhere. So I was just talking to the city prosecutor and he was approached by several people saying that it is sensitively different and better and that they are happy that something has been done. I think we can all attribute the merit to it. You have some different elements that have been produced and that have influenced this. Ce que je ne voulais pas, c'est que cela devienne une affaire de répression policière, où nous courons après les enfants. Ce n'est tout simplement pas approprié pour un policier de poursuivre un enfant de 10 ans sur une trottinette, et de mauvaises choses, vous savez, sont plus susceptibles d'arriver dans ces circonstances, car la police pourrait être amenée à procéder à une arrestation. L'enfant ne va évidemment pas attendre que cela arrive. And you know, we certainly don't want our residents to be hurt by trying to escape or to avoid us. So I think, as I said, that we have had some success. And here we are. I talked about it to Amelie. Education is what we do. Spread the information so that parents know what they are buying before starting. You know, we're approaching Christmas, so I'm sure a new series of presents will arrive at that time. These toys are not very expensive. And you know, with school coming up, I can see that this will become an alternative for parents, rather than taking the child in the car, when he can go to school in a scooter or scooter, faster than facing the traffic lights and waiting in line. So there will probably be new challenges at the beginning of the year. We will therefore monitor this. But we are not the only ones in Wildwood, you know, it is a global phenomenon. All the municipalities of the region, the county of Saint-Charles, the south of the county, I talked to other local police chiefs. This happens in Jennings, in Fenton, in Afton. In fact, technology has progressed much faster than our laws. You know, a large part of the regulations concerning scooters, we say scooters, we imagine a certain type of vehicle. And these no longer correspond to this definition. These are not scooters. These are electric motorcycles, electric scooters, this kind of thing. This has really progressed a lot. So, The fact that we are trying to update ourselves with stops, definitions and all the rest, I think it's appropriate. Everything I have, I think you have put your finger on the two most important points. First, we do not want the police to pursue these individuals because it could end badly. And I think education is the right approach here. It had an impact. I'm sure it had an impact on the problem. My biggest challenge is education, but above all, how to make parents responsible. It doesn't bother me to go buy one. I applaud, I see a lot of it, and I would say that 90% of the problem comes from electric motorcycles. Electric bikes are often put in the same room. These kids are not on bikes, they are all on electric motorcycles. People who use electric bikes are rather cyclists who use them as assistance. They are not made to go everywhere. But as you say, technology is changing. They are becoming faster and faster. You know, battery technologies have evolved and they are becoming cheaper. And I think that at Christmas, you will see a whole new, new way of doing things. And I don't know, I know that we had discussions with the schools, but if the schools forbade them on their property, it would surely help. Because we could just get a bunch of them directly to the school. And I don't know much about it, but they are general. They are made like all-terrain motorcycles. That's really what they are. I mean, there are now all-terrain racing categories for electric motorcycles. I think you have a finger on the problem. The determining factor will be the schools. Yes, there were some discussions at the beginning with the school district, it was towards the end of the school year. So it hasn't really progressed beyond the expression of their concerns. And I think they share this opinion. And they don't want to see their students get hurt either. I congratulate the children. You will see these little guys on these machines with massive helmets that probably cost as much as the bike itself. But you know, some children make this effort and think they are safe. But that also limits ... A 10 or 12 year old child is not used to driving in traffic, to knowing the road code and what he or she must or must not do, they are simply not attentive. I saw four loaders at Clarkson and Manchester crossing the intersection while traffic was dense. I said to myself, they were, I don't know, the oldest, they must be 10 years old. They were children, invulnerable. They think they are invulnerable at this age.

41:45Speaker 2

Any other questions or discussions?

41:50Speaker 1

Le point suivant est la reconsidération des restrictions de poids lourds sur... Voulez-vous donner suite à votre motion ?

41:57 – 42:10Speaker 2

Je vous demande pardon. Si vous pouviez faire une motion pour reporter ce point à la prochaine... Je vous demande pardon. La réunion est-ce que... J'entends une motion pour reporter la discussion sur les vélos électriques et les engins de déplacement personnel à une réunion ultérieure.

42:11Speaker 1

Je propose une motion.

42:13 – 48:38Speaker 2

J'ai un second. Tous ceux qui sont posés ce moment... La motion est adoptée. Nous en discuterons plus en détail lors d'une prochaine réunion. Point suivant, reconsidération des restrictions de poids lourds sur Wild Horse Creek entre la route nationale 100 et la route nationale 109. C'est très bien. Membre du Conseil, Monsieur Marshall, je vais introduire ce point et je suis sûr que Monsieur ou le Capitaine Mondo souhaitera peut-être dire quelques mots, mais je dirais d'emblée que le Conseil souhaite également reporter ce point, car nous aurons vraisemblablement the new police captain during our next meeting. That would suit me perfectly. I suppose that Captain Marchand agrees. Well, I think we can make the decision because Captain Ostendorf was part of the road safety team as a co-officer and then sergeant. Is that right, Captain Mandel? So she will be just as competent as Captain Mandel. Well, no one is as good as me, but We have not yet installed any panels, there is nothing of this kind. So this point was presented. It was passed in front of the council. I think that during the last meeting, we presented it to the municipal council for a first reading in August, then a second reading Monday evening. Our new councilor Owen, who was supposed to be present tonight, represents the first district where the Wild Horse Creek Road area is in question. Monday evening. he essentially proposed to send the project back to the Public Security Council, specifically asking that the Council consider extending the restriction to commercial vehicles and not only to semi-trailers. If you remember the Wild Horse Creek junction between Route 109 and Route 100, The initial request addressed to this council was to prohibit this truncation to large semi-trailers, which is consistent with the panel of the county on South Stone Road from the roundabout of the Assemblée towards the valley. And the reason why we wanted to do that, at least the reason why we submitted this point to the council, was to maintain a consistency. We didn't want these big trucks to go west, did we? The forces of the order discover that they can't really pass because this restriction also applies to Sainte-Aureole. So, Councilor Owen made this proposal. It was adopted to submit you again this point for reconsideration. And this reconsideration aims not to limit the restriction to only semi-trailers, but to extend it on this section of Wild Horse Creek Road to commercial vehicles. To commercial vehicles rather than semi-trailers. The idea behind this is that the Austin-Fort Road junction between Wild Horse and Route TT is currently prohibited for commercial vehicles, and this has to be noted. The request is therefore that the Public Security Council consider revising our motion in support of the prohibition of this section of road Not a ban, but a restriction on non-commercial vehicles, or a ban on commercial vehicles of all sizes. Well, this could be open to discussion, but for the moment, as I read the code, the road code defines what a commercial vehicle is. I think I have included it in my note. This does not necessarily concern the size, it depends more on the use of the vehicle. But would the ordinance include an exception for local deliveries? Because otherwise, how would Amazon, FedEx and all the others do? They would all be commercial vehicles. Indeed, and even a truck of a landscaper, for example, of 400, 500 kilos or more, is a commercial vehicle. So all the landscape development companies, all the service vehicles, all of these are commercial vehicles. The code therefore provides an exclusion for commercial vehicles carrying out deliveries on the route. It is therefore well included. Now, this does not... Just to underline. With the restriction on the semi-trailers that we have adopted, we have an exclusion for Wildwood. And it was to make a nod to some of our Wildwood-based entrepreneurs. We therefore allow an exception for the routes to the property pool at Wildwood. You can therefore use this route if you go to the adjacent street to make a delivery, not only on this route. It is for the restriction on semi-rails. I therefore think that it is important to consider this if the council wants to adopt a similar restriction for commercial vehicles. This has been mentioned previously, it is Tom Kelp who came and who was quite to this subject. He did not appreciate. The restriction that was recommended for semi-trailers, he estimated that it was excessively restrictive for these operations. And so we added the exception for Wildwood. Thus, you could in theory deliver to or from the location or address of Wildwood. Which seems reasonable to me. The restriction therefore concerns commercial vehicles and semi-trailers, except for local deliveries. I'm not quite sure to follow you. Well, for the moment, there are no restrictions at all. Do you understand? On the roads where we prohibit commercial vehicles, for example at St Paul Woods, how are they defined? We do not do it. They would therefore have an exception for local deliveries in this street, but there is no exception for Wildwood.

48:39Speaker 1

We have only done this with the restrictions on the semi-trailers that we have in place.

48:45 – 53:22Speaker 2

My concern concerns all of them. There are many without semi-trailers or similar loading on Wild Horse Creek. Obviously, I think that when you look at Saint-Paul, it's a different road. It's difficult for two cars to cross each other. It makes sense in this place. But I mean, it worries me to say no commercial vehicles on Wild Horse Creek because it will not end up applying to all the others. And that's not necessarily what I would call a transit road. I mean, if you come from the valley and you drive one, you would want to take the 109 to the highway. This is not an advantageous route. I think Captain Mandel mentioned it earlier. Sometimes Google makes them go there. And since it's Google, they always take the fastest route, not necessarily the shortest, but the fastest. And so I think it's one of the concerns that a mapping service attracts them on this route. I understand what you're saying. You have to be crazy to go through there anyway. If they do not know the area, maybe a sign indicating that it is forbidden to carry heavy goods except for local delivery. Well, they would probably reconsider their route. The rest of my question is, how can this be applied? I agree. Go sit there permanently to stop everyone from coming. Okay, show me your delivery documents to prove that you cross and ... You know, I think that signaling the ban on semi-trailers is very different because of their width in the turns and their length. The bridge, I mean, it's very different. But I think when it comes to commercial vehicles that pass through there all day, which one? Which one? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that if you drive a semi-trailer, the law forces you to present your road map to justify your destination and everything else. So you could just stop them and say, hey, show me your papers to prove that you have a delivery in the sector. So yes, the semi-remorques. These roads in particular are full of turns and hills. So restricting the semi-remorques, it's almost obvious. That's why it was done on Old State Road. The semi-remorques used Old State Road until last year without any problem. We have never had an accident problem with semi-trailers, but during the evaluation of the county, it appeared that the trucks may be bigger today. In these turns, the way the truck turns leads it to cross the median line. There is therefore a high risk of collision with a truck in the turns, because for the negotiators, they have to cross the median line. And that's what creates the danger. So the county took the initiative on State Road, or Old State Road, to impose this restriction, and Wildwood obviously followed the movement. For these roads, Hazenfort and Wild Horse Creek, it's exactly the same thing. There are so many turns that the semi-trails cannot really circulate safely. It is therefore obvious that these trucks should not be there when you go up there, to the roundabout of Wild Horse Creek. Je crois que nous parlions de demander au ministère des Transports d'imposer aux semi-remorques de tourner à droite. C'est tout ce qu'il y a à faire. Ils ne peuvent pas s'engager dans le rond-point pour descendre la colline, car c'est la même chose lorsqu'ils arrivent en bas. Dans le virage, il y a un risque de collision à cet endroit. Là où j'ai un problème avec une interdiction générale de véhicules commerciaux, c'est, comme l'a dit Kevin, comment puis-je faire appliquer cela ? Je ne peux pas arrêter les gens au hasard. Un officier spécialisé dans le transport commercial peut le faire dans le cadre de ses fonctions. Mais un agent de police ne peut pas arrêter les gens arbitrairement. I talked to the city prosecutor before this meeting saying, here is what is suggested, and she shared the same concern. This places the police officer in a situation where he risks carrying out an illegal check simply because the vehicle is on this road if a specific restriction is created. The only way for me to know and stop you is to ask you where you are going and what you are doing and to follow you along the way. Exactly.

53:22Speaker 1

And now we have to go back and forth, you know, in search of this, this.

53:25 – 58:13Speaker 2

Spend a lot of time. Make the law apply, I think that will pose a problem. If you are satisfied with putting up a sign and believing that people will respect the rules, then okay. But as soon as I know that the calls are coming, saying, hey, there's a sign now, hey, I saw this truck. What are you going to do about this subject? And after that, nothing. Because it's already gone. But it's like a vehicle that flares up in the middle of the night. So I would say to move forward with caution, or that it requires reflection, rather than simply imposing a total restriction. And Allstate is obviously a delistage route. You know, it's deliberately used. It's not, it's not Google Maps, it's the shortcut. I'm even shorter. In cases like Windows Creek, all around, it is by no means an advantage for anyone, except maybe for a motorcycle. So when they talk about reconsidering our ways, are they waiting for a new motion from the council to essentially prohibit commercial motorized vehicles, except for local deliveries? I think that the motion asked you, as a council, to re-examine the previous approval and, if you consider it appropriate, to consider modifying it. There is a political restriction. You can send it as it is, as you did before, if that's what you want. The municipal council can choose to adopt it or not. Yes, it's hard to know. They could very well modify it themselves, frankly. Eh bien avec les personnes présentes ici, je pense que nous devrions, je veux faire une motion pour que nous... Assumez une motion. C'est bien d'en parler ce soir, mais qu'aucune décision ne soit prise, que ce soit reporté et réexaminé à la prochaine réunion. Parce que je pense que c'est plus juste pour beaucoup de gens, y compris pour le nouveau commandant de secteur qui arrive. Donc je vais faire une motion pour reporter toute discussion ultérieure sur le point 5.2. À la prochaine réunion. Je seconde cette motion. J'ai une motion. Il a été proposé secondé de reporter toute discussion ultérieure sur le réexamen des restrictions de circulation des poids lourds sur Wild Horse Creek Road, de la State Route 100 à la State Route 100 à la State Route 101. Pour ceux qui sont pour, dites-le quand même. Quelqu'un est contre ? La motion est adoptée. Cela sera reporté à la prochaine réunion. Ce sera une réunion plus longue. Ça pourrait être un peu plus long. Et quand nous aborderons ce sujet, j'ai un problème avec le 15 octobre. Bref, y a-t-il des points pour les affaires nouvelles? Pourquoi reportez-vous? Très bien. Nous n'avons aucun point pour les affaires nouvelles. Nous n'avons aucun point dans les questions diverses. Très bien. Donc, le procès verbal indique que la prochaine réunion est le 15 octobre 2026. Je serai à une répétition de mariage que je ne peux pas manquer. Est-ce qu'il se marie? Non, c'est mon fils. Pas ce soir-là. Le lendemain, il se marie le lendemain, mais la répétition est le jeudi 15. Je voulais juste mentionner que le mois d'octobre est la période des discussions budgétaires. Et vous savez, cette réunion pourrait de toute façon avoir été modifiée ou devra l'être en fonction des autres réunions prévues en même temps. Je n'ai pas le calendrier. C'est une réunion cruciale. Donc, il est possible que nous devions même organiser une réunion spéciale. Je ne sais pas. Surtout étant donné l'importance du point sur le budget. almost the whole month of October, except for the 15th, the 16th and the 31st. And I had mentioned that, you know, during the last meeting, we were going to talk about the reduction of employees. And I think I've given everyone a copy of this report. The analysis of the department suggests that we could potentially reduce two positions by basing ourselves on our planning models. Je pense que ce sera la suggestion à ce moment-là. Je sais que Tom travaille toujours dessus et je ne suis pas sûr que l'administration des travaux publics est donnée suite à d'autres recommandations ou réflexions. Donc ce sera pour la réunion d'octobre. Cela figurera certainement à l'ordre du jour pour en discuter. Je pense que nous pouvons prévoir une réunion importante pour octobre et probablement, Rick, si tu veux prendre... A few days to find a good alternative date, that suits me perfectly. I don't think we need to decide tonight. Yes, survive at the courriel.

58:14Speaker 1

We will have to send you something to reprogram.

58:16 – 58:28Speaker 2

We have no other point to discuss. Do I hear a motion to raise the session? I propose to raise the session. All those who are in favor? The motion is adopted.

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