Board of Education - Regular Meeting

Monday, October 13, 2025

About this meeting

Government Body
Board of Education
Meeting Type
Board Of Education
Location
Williamson County, TN
Meeting Date
October 13, 2025

Transcript

201 sections (from 677 segments)

3:55Speaker 1

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4:01 – 5:30Speaker 1

Good evening. Want to welcome everybody to the October 13th Williamson County Commissioner Meeting. Uh first item on our agenda is always the invocation and pledge. And this month it is given by District 8. the invocation to be given by Commissioner Barb Sturgeon and the pledge to be given or led by Commissioner Drew Torres. Please rise. Our Lord Jesus Christ, God the Father, and the Holy Spirit, we come before you with open hearts, humbly seeking your divine wisdom as we deliberate on the resolutions before this county commission. I surrender this meeting to you for you to have your will. Fill us with discernment to choose paths that honor your truth and uplift our community. May our words and actions reflect the boundless love, compassion, and humility of our Lord Jesus Christ. As we strive to serve with grace, and unity, guide us, Lord, to be faithful stewards of your will. Amen. Amen. Please join me in the pledge. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

5:31 – 6:04Speaker 1

Next item on the agenda is roll call. If your tablets are working, can I unplug mine? Can I unplug it? All right. If you'll click your present button and record the role, please. Mr. Whidby. I have 22 present, two uh two absent, Commissioner Clifford and Commissioner Mason absent.

6:01 – 7:18Speaker 1

And we heard from both of them. And uh I know Commissioner Clifford could use your thoughts and prayers. He has a broken collar bone this afternoon. Um, so we'll be thinking of him. We also have approval of the minutes. Next, uh, packet should have been mailed out to each of you. I'll entertain a motion. Got a proper motion made by Commissioner Tunnliff and seconded by Commissioner Smith. Are there any questions or comments concerning the minutes from last month's meeting? Seeing none, if you're ready to vote. If you're in favor of approving the minutes, signify by clicking your yes button once it pops up. There we go. Opposed your no button. Anyone wishing to change their vote, please do so at this time. Record the vote, please. Mr. Whby, 22, yes, zero, no, and the minutes are approved. Next, we have citizen communications. We have one individual who has signed up. When I call your name, if you could uh tell us your name and the city in which you reside. Uh and each speaker gets three minutes. And we will welcome to the podium now Miss Cindy Walton.

7:22 – 9:21Speaker 1

Hello everybody. I'm Cindy um Cindy Walton. I live in Thompson Station. Um, and I'm here to address you guys about some of the issues I've been having with my property and our safety once the Bethesda Rec Center was um, started. Essentially, we are having I'm sorry, I don't usually public speak, but we are having a lot of safety issues with the traffic that this has imposed on myself, my uncle, who's the neighboring property, and also the property next to him. Um, there's a lot of traffic, a lot of people are speeding. Um, I think I've addressed most of you guys about this before. Um, I'm not getting a lot of feedback, so this is my next step just to try to um, get something done about it. Our mailboxes are on the opposite side of the road. Um, that is a USPS issue apparently and we can't get that rectified in order for us to be able to safely access our mail. Um, I I've contacted you guys. I've contacted Marcia Blackburn's office. I've contacted the USPS. Everybody acknowledges the issue, but nobody is willing or capable of solving that. However, I've learned that you guys are planning to widen that road out in front of my house. That's going to cause more issues for us. Um, we have limited sight lines. We have two big hills and a curve. So, I have to try to scurry across the road listening. Um, and you don't always hear the cars coming. So, you kind of have to run and and hit the ditch next to the mailbox. and you're standing there with cars doing sometimes it's the speed limit at 45 sometimes it's 55 sometimes it's more and they do not move over so I'm the one that checks the mail for myself my mom and my uncle because they're elderly there's no way they can navigate that traffic I can barely navigate that traffic something needs to be done for our safety we're going to get injured and the person who eventually hits one of us

9:19 – 10:35Speaker 1

is going to have their lives changed and it's not going to be for the better so I'm Just bringing this to your attention once again um because I know phase 2 is going to start soon and that means more traffic for us and we're going to have to try to navigate this somehow and we don't have a solution. We've tried we fought for a solution. We've pleaded for a solution. Um and I'm just here putting this in front of you now hoping that somebody takes initiative um and tries to solve what's been created for us out here. We've been here since 1986 in that location. Um, each year it gets a little worse because of the the new developments and things like that, but if I'm trying to check that mail after work, there's there's no way. I mean, I am fighting for my life out there. So, I'm just employ, you know, I'm employing for some help from someone to try to help come up with a solution. Um, whether it's speed bumps, reducing the speed limit, enforcing the the traffic safety out there more because there is a lot of revving of the engines, a lot of speeding. um and a lot and sometimes racing especially at the end of the night when they're leaving that park. Um but my main concern is when I'm I'm sorry. My main concern is when I'm crossing um after work to get my mail. I mean that's the best time because you can't see at night.

10:34 – 11:09Speaker 1

So thank you very much you guys. I appreciate it. Thank you. And that's the uh conclusion of our citizens communications. Now moving on to communications and messages. There are two late filed resolutions in your packet. Uh if there are no objections, then this evening we will hear resolution 102524 and resolution 102525. Any objections to hearing those? Seeing none, we'll hear those this evening. And now we have two proclamations and I'll call on Mayor Rogers Anderson.

11:11 – 13:10Speaker 1

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Commissioners, if I could have the resolution for the breast cancer, if they will come up, please. As they're making their way up, as many of you know, this month is cancer awareness month. [Applause] Whereas the Franklin Cancer Wall for breast cancer reports that breast cancer is the number two cause of death for women, one in three women lose their battle with cancer. In the United States, every two minutes a woman is diagnosed with breast cancer. Whereas founded over 10 years ago by Marilyn Samantha Shepard, the Franklin Cancer Walk is dedicated to helping women and their families. Whereas the Franklin Cancer Walk serves women undergoing cancer treatment at Vanderbilt Medical Center as well as participating hospitals throughout Middle Tennessee to enhance the quality of life for women and their families. Whereas Fran Franklin Franklin's cancer walk also sponsors celebration in honor of determination and bravery to fight the battle against breast cancer. It is by my signature and the seal that we proclaim October is the breast cancer awareness month. Thank you ladies. [Applause] You said to take a picture with you.

13:21 – 14:10Speaker 1

[Applause] [Applause] Mr. Chairman, again we have a proclamation for the 21st uh District Recovery Court Day. Many of you know it under a previous name, but if I could have these folks to come up. And we have a special person here tonight. Many of you know Gail Moyer Harris, who was also a county commissioner. She's actually been about everything in Williamson County as you would ever think about being. And I applaud her and her husband, Judge Bale, for coming up. Judge has been retired for many years, but still very active in our community.

14:08 – 16:07Speaker 1

Come on up, judges and people. Of course, we have Judge Tim Easter who resides in our area. So, let me read this. Whereas the 21st District Recovery Court serving Williamson County has diligently worked since its founding in 2002 to transport transform the lives of nonviolent offenders struggling with addiction through an intensive court supervised two-year recovery program. And whereas the 21st district recovery court provides a non-adversarial therapeutic approach to address crimes and addiction, offering participants rigorous treatment, intensive monitoring, and essential life skills to foster successful productive lives. And whereas the program has demonstrated remarkable success, graduating 376 participants since 2004, significantly reducing recidivism rates compared to the traditional court probation and parole programs and restoring families and communities by creating safe and positive environments. Whereas the 21st District Recovery Court operates in a coste effective manner, spending approximately $15,000 per participant annually compared to over 40,000 for the incarceration, saving taxpayers resources while relying primarily on grants, private donation, and modest participation fees without direct taxpayer funding. Whereas the 15th annual community lunchon to be held on Monday, October the 20th at 11:00 a.m. at the Williamson County Enrichment Center serves as a vital platform to raise awareness and support for the the recovery court's mission. Whereas the 21st district recoveries court's efforts align with the

16:04 – 16:36Speaker 1

Williamson County to to commit to fostering a safer, healthier, and a more resilient community by reducing drug and alcohol related crimes and supporting the rehabilitation of our own citizens. It's therefore that I proclaim October the 20th as 21st, the district 21st district recovery court day. and I've signed it and we have the seal on it. Who wants to speak? Connie or Gail?

16:41 – 17:20Speaker 1

Thank you, Rogers. It is. Um, here's the mic. Oh, I guess I have to do that, right? Okay. Everyone knows I'm not the best public speaker, but I am passionate about what we do and the program that we serve and so many of you are supporters of that. And I have a great my great staff here and board members and we do everything we can to restore families and to make our community safer. And I'm very proud to know that you all acknowledge that and understand what we do and support us. And any of you that can come to our lunch, please do so. Thank you so much,

17:18 – 17:40Speaker 1

Mr. Chairman. If I could before you all give a round of applause. It's we don't get an opportunity from time to time to put Gail on the spot and call upon her to talk about her wisdom. If we could for this, not only this effort, but what all she's offered to this county. Gail, please do.

17:42 – 19:24Speaker 1

I really can't talk very much. Um, this is uh y'all have business to do. I could talk all night uh given the opportunity. Um, I was privileged when Judge Easter and my husband, Judge Harris, when they were on the bench as circuit court uh judges saw the need to do something with the same people that kept coming back with um criminal charges. But they were all caused by addiction. And um after years of looking at that, they decided to start this unbelievable program called drug court at the time. Um it was not a very popular thing. Uh I don't think our county was quite ready for it, but there was the need and these two judges stepped forward uh helped raise the money. Connie was part of that initial effort and we are proud today of the work that's been done by so many of our staff, our board members, our jud judiciary and you county commissioners. So, thank you for all that you've done and it's our privilege to serve this community. [Applause] Thank you all. Where are we at now? Reports.

19:22 – 19:52Speaker 1

Rogers, if you want to stay up. Our next item on the agenda is reports of county offices. Mayor Rogers Anderson. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. First of all, let me call Phoebe up and we'll give a snaps. We have three different uh individuals and firms that are coming up under my report. Phoebe will introduce the um Marriott um people uh and then we'll have a slide presentation also.

19:56 – 21:55Speaker 1

Thank you, Mary Anderson and good evening. Uh the first thing I'd like to report this evening is our collections. Our August collections for privilege tax. For the month of August, we received a little over 1,264,000. This is an increase over last month of approximately 245,000. Uh July was just slightly over a million dollars. So we have had a good month in August for privilege tax and education impact fee. Our education impact fee also saw an increase of approximately 214,000 for a total of 1,928,000 for the month of August. In your packet, you will find a list of projects. Um, if you're looking in the in the short pages, it should be approximately about number six. Um, this is a listing of projects along with their corresponding intent to fund resolutions. And this is provide those numbers with you to provide you a breakdown for the two bond resolutions that will be coming before you for a vote this evening. Resolution number 102514 and 102515. Those will will outline kind of what we have already approved and what you had this body has approved for intent to fund for both county government projects as well as for school projects. So this evening we are just going to um this is for a resolution for a not to exceed. Obviously I cannot give you an exact number because we haven't gone to market yet. We are projecting to go to market approximately the end of this month uh 1st of November. Of course that is depending on the vote this evening. On Friday I sent to you an slide. I think there was approximately six slides I sent to you for additional information on our conference center. At this time, I would like to call both Michael

21:52 – 22:41Speaker 1

Sanders and Dan Herrigan to the to allow them a few minutes to kind of elaborate on that. This evening, you will see the addendum. Again, this is the addendum to extend the operating agreement. This will be before you this evening. Um, if you have any questions, we can please feel free to answer them or I will come back up and and do my best to answer any questions you have on this information or any of the previous information I provided. See if we can get this going. Yes,

22:39Speaker 1

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22:53 – 23:13Speaker 1

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23:16 – 25:16Speaker 1

Good evening, Mr. Chairman and commissioners. Uh, my name is Michael Sanders. I'm with Chartwell Hospitality and this is Dan Harrington, also with Chartwell Hospitality. Excuse me, I'm breaking the fob. So, um after the last meeting last month, um to table the vote for the extension on the uh management agreement for the convention center, um it was decided to put together a brief presentation and I will make a brief um on the complexity of the uh the convention center and the hotel uh inner workings. Um, first I'd like to recap uh that the conference center has been a profitable venture that started over 26 years ago and in the 26 full years uh full fiscal years um the conference center has grossed a profit of 4 I'm sorry netted a profit of 4.8 million. Um and that's the county c center's portion does not include the city's equal portion. Um the last four years the conference center has averaged $373,000 uh profit per year for the county. Um and I use the fouryear because of coming out of COVID obviously we had a dip and then the tax contribution uh that has been generated in 2024 was $1.24 million uh for the county. As you know, uh we are here trying to uh secure um an extension on the management agreement for two main reasons. One is securing financing for the hotel. Uh and secondary is we are currently booking beyond the current management agreement u termination date which is in October of 2027. We currently have $877,000 in function revenue on the books for the conference center and those are being booked in the entity name of the hotel

25:14 – 27:13Speaker 1

putting all the risk on the hotel in the event that the conference center was not there to uh deliver on those services. This is a layout um and I took this off of a blueprint. It was the best way I could show the image of the conference center and the hotel. Um, when this was built originally, it was built like a a typical standalone hotel that has um one of everything, if you will. And the value of that and what has made this conference center uh profitable is the fact that we do share um the facilities. Um so and you'll see it on the next slide. Um in this case the kitchen which in this diagram is shown on the hotel side. The hotel side is in red. Uh the blue side is the conference center. You can see the laundry is in the conference center. Um if I go to the next slide the efficiencies and I won't read through all of these but the efficiencies that that affords the operation is not having to have two of everything. You have one staff that operates both facilities. You have one food and beverage inventory that operates both facilities. And you have one um utility, one um mechanical infrastructure that offer operates both and and it goes on and on. But that's the value of how this was established. Um whereas in many cases private uh public private partnerships on convention centers are not successful because they're a separate entity altogether um that duplicates efforts and then the final slide presentation chartwell hospitality is is Franklin based

27:09 – 27:54Speaker 1

I think almost everybody I'm sorry we had a malfunction technical malfunction please proceed. Um, Chartwell Hospitality is Franklin based. We have seven hotels in Williamson County. Um, I highlighted the tax revenue that supports the the 1.2 that I mentioned earlier, but um, of our seven hotels, we've produced over $4 million in tax revenue for the county. So, we are very proud to be in uh, Williamson County. And that concludes the presentation. And if there are any questions, any questions or comments? Looks like I have one from Commissioner Lawrence.

27:52 – 28:11Speaker 1

Yes. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Good evening, Michael. Uh I think it's unfortunate that you come here on a night when you just handed us the latest report from the conference center which shows apparently we had a loss of a quarter of a million dollars in one month. Can you explain that?

28:08 – 28:43Speaker 1

Absolutely. Um, and first it's not uncommon to have months where there are are losses, especially in the summer months. Uh, but we just completed a renovation of the convention center side in August. Um, it was closed the entire month of August so that it could be um renovated. And on the hotel side, we were about to invest a large sum there as well to finish out the entire project. So by end of Q1 uh the hotel and conference center will be fully renovated

28:40 – 29:13Speaker 1

and the renovation was to the two to roughly 2.8 million that was put into the conference center alone and we're putting separately another six and a half million into the hotel uh which will start at the end of this month and be completed hopefully sometime in early May. Okay. So you you guys put the money you you invested that into the conference center even though we technically own it. No, that was most of the money in the conference center was federal grant money.

29:10 – 29:58Speaker 1

Oh, okay. Okay. All right. So, Michael, the last time you were here, the the tone of your message seemed to be that you were, you know, Chartwell had not done as well as you had hoped on the Marriott and that you needed this contract extension. Um, it's it was almost like, you know, we need this to stay in business. But the but I followed what you said when you went to the Franklin Bulma and it it wasn't quite as dire. I mean, it was more like we just need this money. We we just need this contract in place to be able to get a loan extens either a loan extension or maybe a lower interest rate on the loan you already have. Uh could you elaborate on that a little bit?

29:56 – 30:53Speaker 1

Yeah, I can comment on that. Uh yeah, we we typically for properties like this, we usually get a five or sevenyear loan. Um and it's just the term is up on it and the lenders that are looking at refinancing the property is doing well. Uh there's no risk in the property but the the only inherent risk is is that has surfaced as we go out to find a replacement loan is that you have uh a management agreement that matures in two years. What happens if they decide not to extend it? you know, because some of the business for the hotel is is it's correlated related to the the conference center business. And uh so there's a hesitancy in lenders for the mere fact that you've only got you've got two years left and there's a risk that if someone decides not to extend it, you know, what happens, which is a viable question from any lender.

30:51 – 31:24Speaker 1

Okay. All right. Thank you. But but it's in terms of the hotel, it's it's performing very well. There's no concerns with regards to the performance of the hotel. Okay. Thank you, Commissioner Williams. Uh, good seeing you all again. Um, following up from the discussion in property committee, um, I think what I had heard there in the property committee was your typical financing terms were three to five year financing terms. We currently have two years left on the current agreement.

31:22 – 31:41Speaker 1

The original ask, I think, was for an extension. And what we basically asked was for y'all to go have a conversation with the financing agents about a 5-year extension because that would de facto leave seven years left. It should suffice your typical financing cycle. What was the result of those conversations?

31:38 – 32:20Speaker 1

I it was it was pushed back because we're effectively be in the same spot that we're in right now in five years with only two years left. So we'll have the same issue um at the maturity of this loan as we do now. So uh consequently we would like to right now we're looking for 10-year extension with the two additional years left which is 12. The most we can reduce that to is now 10. So if you were taking a just to make sure I understand correctly because I'm having a hard time understanding that if you're taking a loan out whether it be three years or five years

32:18 – 33:00Speaker 1

but we offer a fiveyear extension in addition to the two. So there's a seven years of effective agreement right that should suffice the financial cycle of whatever loan that you take. We'll be confronting the same issue you know in five years from now that there would only be two years left when we're refinancing it at the end of this loan term but we'll deal with that in five years right we're talking about a current financial need right now right and it should suffice that. So, um, but we're getting push back. The lenders want to see at least 10 years. Thank you. Any other questions or comments? Uh, Commissioner Sturgeon,

32:58 – 33:43Speaker 1

thank you. Um, in the property committee, we also asked if the contract had an out clause where we can get out of it, and I think Sarah said she'd look into it. Do we know? Is there any I mean if in three years everything changes can we get out of the contract? Uh yes actually the the the sale agreement or the out clause is in the original agreement between us and Franklin. It was in the original contract and we have to give 120day notice and at that point we give 120day notice. First right of refusal is the city and if they do not choose to pro to proceed with that then we would go out obviously and bid and look for a new buyer. Um, this you're talking about the contract that has us owning it.

33:43 – 34:26Speaker 1

Correct. I'm talking about our contract with the management group, right? So, that would also just go with the buyers. So, if we did sell, it would go the rights for this agreement would go along with that. So, we have to sell it if we don't like the management. We can't keep the place, right? And get a new manager for 12 years. That is correct. with this agreement we have operate. It is an operating agreement. Thank you. Uh Commissioner Sanford, couple quick questions um for them. What is Chartwell's annual revenue roughly?

34:22 – 35:03Speaker 1

Um I don't have that off hand, but it's it's one of the larger hotel operators in Nashville, if not the largest independent hotel operator. Couple hundred million probably. I don't want to throw out a number. I don't know. Okay. Google says it's around 177 million. Um, it also says Chartwell has a history of acquiring 1.7 billion in hotels. That's is that accurate? We have roughly 23 hotels that we own and operate. You can come to the microphone so that everybody can hear you if you speaking in the microphone. Not just in Tennessee. We have hotels throughout the country.

34:59 – 35:41Speaker 1

Okay. And we lost um money this month. What did y'all make? What did y'all lose? would you make? Uh, Michael, do you know what? Uh, in the in the month of August, well, the the the the per the reason for losing money in the month of August was simply because we shut down because of the renovation. That's not what I asked. How much we lost 131,000? I I would assume the city of Franklin lost 131,000 if it's equal. I haven't seen the contract. So, what did y'all lose or make that month? I don't know the exact number, but it was not a good month because we rely on the conference. Did you make money? Um, no. Not after debt service. No,

35:40 – 36:23Speaker 1

after debt service, but it was profitable if it was cash on cash, right? Probably. Okay. Thank you. Any other questions or comments? I see none. Thank you, gentlemen. Okay, great. Thank you. Mr. Chair, Mr. Chairman, I have Moren Thornton coming up from the CVB to report on some excellent news. Yeah, and I think we all have some goodie bags on our desk.

36:21 – 38:20Speaker 1

You do have some goodie bags. Hi everyone, I'm Morin Thornton. Just as a reminder, visit Franklin, the Williamson County Convention and Visitors Bureau Tourism on behalf of the county. Your bags say Franklin, but if you look inside, you'll see some new collateral that we've been using. That is part of the work that we've been doing over the last several years to make it much more clearly obvious that our work is on behalf of the entire county. So, if you do get a chance to peruse your bags, you'll see we've um added stickers and postcards. And I think you've previously seen the rack cards that are distinct to all of the communities in Williamson County. Our warm and fuzzy tagline, thanks to all of you who participated in the branding is really about the idea that we are eight unique communities, but together we're one powerful community. So, we still lead with Franklin as the county seat, but make no mistake, our work is on behalf of the entire county. So, I wanted to first thank you all for your support, your engagement. So, many of you have been involved in everything from our brand work, our day-to-day, the questions, the engagement that we get, and it helps us do good work on behalf of the community. And it really is a privilege for us to do that. It's a fun job to have promoting tourism, welcoming people, but it's even more fun to do it in a place as special as the one we get to share. So, we as a team appreciate working alongside all of you as our elected leaders and other community leaders to do the work that we do. And what I'm really here tonight to talk about is one of our absolute favorite things, which is the positive economic impact of tourism. So, we just recently in September got our 2024 calendar year information, which I know is totally crazy that it's so far delayed, but it was good news for us in 2024. Our total spending by visitors in Williamson County was up about 3%. So over $1.3 billion dollar was spent by visitors directly in Williamson County throughout the

38:17 – 40:16Speaker 1

calendar year of 2024. And to give that just some day-to-day context, that's actually more than $3.7 million every single day that's spent by visitors in our communities in our small businesses generating the tax revenue. And for those inclined for math and interested in what does that mean for our residents, there's two numbers I want to leave you with there. One is the $3.7 million a day in visitor spending generated more than $153,000 a day in local tax collections. That's not the state's portion. That's the local collections across our cities and our county, which then equals a $1,631 per household saved amount for every household in Williamson County. So, it is money that is spent that helps our businesses thrive, that saves our residents money, that allows us an opportunity to welcome people to experience the beautiful things that we have to offer. And then I also want to give a little bit of a shameless plug for our team. I mentioned we're enthusiastic and it's a privilege for us to do this work with you and on behalf of the county. And I'm actually holding a small piece of not really hardware, I guess glassware. Um, we were recently recognized by the Tennessee Hospitality and Tourism Association as the large DMO of the year for the state of Tennessee. So, we hope that you all feel proud of the work that we do on behalf of you and our entire community. So, we share this with you and thank you all for your support, especially three of you sitting in the room, Jennifer Mason, who's not here tonight, Shauna Yellow and Steve Smith, who have been members of our board, but really all of you. We appreciate your partnership, your collaboration, and your support. Um, and in your bag, in addition to those really fun, warm and fuzzy things, um, is a little bit more information, our county economic impact snapshot report, which comes from the state of Tennessee. They

40:15 – 41:28Speaker 1

produce that with the state revenue department. So that comes from them to us. We've talked about the methodology in the past. If anyone wants to talk about that again, I'm always available for that or really any topic related to tourism that you all want to talk about. So thank you again for your support. And if you ever want to talk to us about anything, please know we're always here and really interested to do that. Mr. Chairman, finally on Friday morning, I got a phone call about an explosion over in the um Humphre County and Hickman County from Todd Horton. Um and so I thought it would be appropriate for Connor to come up tonight and kind of tell you our engagement and what we're doing to help out our neighbor next door. Um, as sad as all of that is and the loss of lives, there were several people that stepped up and you should feel honored that our public safety side uh stepped in and took on a role uh that's really making a difference over in the community. Connor,

41:28 – 43:27Speaker 1

thank you, sir. So, Connor Scott, public safety director for the county. Really, thanks to Mayor Anderson's leadership and the support of this body over the years and us being able to do things like take advantage of grant opportunities, we have been able to train our personnel to an incredibly high standard and do strategic investments and equipment that set us up for success here in Williamson County, of course. Uh, but we also have focused on the deployable side of things. And you know, we like to have uh the ability to sort of do a road show, if you will. So, if we are working out of our building or supporting the county fair or uh Renfest or other events across the county or some emergency that happens, we have the ability to stand up our operations um literally anywhere. Uh and that includes continuity of government. So the the functions of this body and also all the critical functions that happen to keep the county going in this building. We work on ways to um make sure that those functions can happen um at any time, anywhere. And so the great thing about that is when our neighbors have a challenge um like Hickman County and Humphre County are going through right now, we have the ability to support them uh in a way that others don't. Um, so since Friday, we've had 10 uh of our personnel, well 11 including myself, um, out at the site. We also have deployed our mobile command trailer, which you may have seen at the county fair. It's our our new asset. Um, they're using that as their command post for law enforcement operations and also for the ATF, who of course is heavily involved. We uh also have mobilized our radio communications trailer. So if we lose a radio tower here in the county, whether it's a tornado that takes it out or some other sort of event, we have a deployable trailer where we can reestablish radio communications with the mobile tower, but we can also deploy that elsewhere. So that the spot where uh the AES facility is located is uh a really poor um cell phone and radio

43:25 – 45:02Speaker 1

reception area. So we've been able to stand up radio communications there um and interface with the ATF. So it's not just the local resources. Um the ATF is plugged into our tower and is using that for their radio communications as well. We also have two of our ATVs that are out there. You may have seen that the complex is incredibly large. It's over 1300 acres and there are several areas that are impacted and then several areas that are being used for different functions. Of course, there's the area that uh the majority of the investigation uh and the work is going on at the moment. Uh but there's also different areas where uh media is set up uh where family assistance is set up uh and other facilities pertaining to the investigation and the overall support. But our personnel have done everything from uh assisting with the planning uh the logistics functions uh being involved in strategic conversations all the way down to signing people in for check-in at the front gate. So really anything that's needed. Uh the sheriff's office also heavily involved. I believe the helicopter may be going tomorrow to do some aerial reconnaissance. Uh, and of course, Sheriff Hughes has offered any and all support that they need from his team. Uh, but it's been a great effort and a great opportunity for us to help out our neighbors when they are in need. Um, knowing that someday, hopefully not, but they may have to come support us as well. So, thank you again for your support, everything that you've done over the years to set our agency up for success. Uh, and for Mayor Anderson for greenlighting all of this um, so that we could go and help our neighbors. And of course, our thoughts and prayers, our hearts are with the AES organization and with that community which has been just completely devastated.

45:01 – 45:44Speaker 1

Thank you for what you're doing. Any questions or comments? Uh, Commissioner Sturgeon. Yeah, thanks. Thanks for filling us in. Can you tell us more details on what caused the explosion and how many people and who p who's passed away? Sure. So, uh, the facility itself, uh, it's a large complex with multiple buildings and the building in question is one where explosives are manufactured and processed. Uh, and that building has been completely leveled. Um, so there is an ongoing investigation into what exactly the cause was. Um, they may not know that for I'm sorry,

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thought it was a utility plant. No, this is a manufacturer of explosives that um some of their biggest contracts are with the the US military. Okay. Um so it'll be months and they may never have a true cause of exactly what happened. Just the the damage is just incredibly extensive. Um and I'm sorry, the second part of your question, I mean, how many people passed away? Oh, so at this point, um they've confirmed 16 fatalities. They were afraid they were up to 18, but they were able to find there were two people who they thought were in the building at the time, but were not. So, they um unfortunately have confirmed 16 people were killed. Thank you. Any other questions or comments for Connor?

46:25 – 46:41Speaker 1

I see none. Thank you again for what you're doing. Okay, moving on. Uh, Miss Riley, were you finished with Okay. So, I'll go on now to uh Superintendent of Schools, Mr. Jason Golden.

46:46 – 47:19Speaker 1

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, commissioners. Uh, we are one quarter into our school year. We don't have anything on your agenda officially from Williamson County Schools. Uh, Miss Riley mentioned to you a couple of items related to bonds for some of the some of the funding you approved for capital projects uh at the end of the fiscal year. Certainly open to any questions that you may have uh uh as uh as you work this evening. Any questions or comments for Superintendent Golden? I see none. Okay.

47:17 – 47:32Speaker 1

Thank you, sir. Moving on, we have a hospital report from CEO Phil Mazooka and COO Terry Fowler. CFO CFO.

47:29 – 49:27Speaker 1

Well, I won't be as brief as Jason as brief as Jason was, but uh thank you, Mr. Chair and commissioners for having us today. Uh I'll start off with some general updates. You've heard that October is National Breast uh care cancer awareness month. So, we're actively educating the community about the services and care we offer by the way of the Williamson Health Turn Breast Health Center. Additionally, we recently launched our very own podcast titled Health Talks from the Inside Out. And the goal is to bring healthcare insights directly from within the organization to our community as our expert providers share their philosophies of care, the services we offer, and practical tips for healthier lives. We launch six episodes ranging from orthopedic care to nutrition to sleep conditions. We'll be sharing two new episodes each month, and you can find us on popular podcast platforms, including Spotify and Apple. And I never thought I'd be talking about Spotify. The Williamson Health Foundation has recently launched a series of health panels for community members. The women's series has been so successful, we're hosting the first men's health panel on November 11th from 5:30 to 7:30 at the Haven Barber Shop in West Haven. Two of our physicians, one primary care and one orthopedist, will be there to discuss issues important to men's health. Tickets are required for the event. Space is limited. Anyone interested can sign up through our link on our website. We talked about uh recruiting physicians to this community and the need that's that we have out there. Well, we had a few recent additions to the Bone and Joint Institute of Tennessee and to Williamson Health Medical Group. First, Dr. Dr. Heather Row recently joined the Williamson Health Medical Group and opened a primary care office in Cool Springs. In addition, Dr. Keith Granger, an interventional physiatrist, and Dr. Sarab Ma, a hand and upper extremity orthopedic surgeon, recently joined the

49:25 – 51:24Speaker 1

bone and joint, and they'll be primary primarily based in the Franklin office. Lastly, I really wanted to update you on our comprehensive strategic planning process. As you know, the Williamson Health Board of Trustees continue to be engaged in a deliberate, measured, and lengthy process to explore all potential pathways to securing our best possible future for our patients, our community, our employees, and our medical staff. While avenues for remaining independent are currently being explored, as we previously talked about, one of the other pathways being explored includes a potential change in ownership. To that end, a request for proposal has now been made available to vetted and qualified interested organizations from around the country. The process is being managed by Kaufman Hall, and we expect the first round of responses before the end of the year. As such, we likely won't have another update until sometime in 2026. On a related note, we are aware of an online and phone survey about our strategic planning process being circulated to local residents. This survey is not from Williamson Health and actually runs contrary to our RFP stipulations. Any attempts to unduly influence the process will be considered during our evaluation process. All interested parties responding to our RFP have agreed that all communications regarding our strategic planning process are to be had only with our Kaufman Hall representatives. This means that interested organizations communing communicating with county commissioners, other elected officials, media, community members, Williamson Health employees and medical staff, and anyone other than Kaufman Hall representatives are outside the agreed upon boundaries. If you are approached about our strategic planning process, we kindly ask that you remind the pursuer of this important contractual procedure. The board takes very seriously this process and is conducting it with the utmost

51:21 – 53:21Speaker 1

professionalism and structure. To that end, we greatly appreciate your help and support throughout this important process. As a reminder, the RFP is merely one potential pathway being explored. Avenues to remain independent are also being pursued with equal equal vigor. Now, before I uh finish my statement, I do want to uh recognize that uh our mayor Anderson received in September uh the award for trustee of the year from the Tennessee Hospital Association for his 30 years of service uh to healthc care within this community. So, really proud that the mayor received the state award. Uh we had a nice ceremony at the THAA and so I just wanted to uh report that out to the commission. In closing, it's business as usual at Williamson Health. Our talented and hardworking men and women continue our daily pursuit of providing high quality and compassionate care to the community we so proudly serve. With that, I'll turn it over to Terry for an update on the August financials. Hello. Good evening everyone. Here are our financial results for August. IBIDA was favorable to budget by 8% or a little over $98,000 and favorable year-to date by $524,000 or or 13%. Debt income for August was favorable to budget by 122% or a little over 114,000 and favorable year-to- date by 400 a little over 421,000 or 77%. August volumes were lower compared to budget and prior year with the exception of physician office visits, GI procedures, and Kath lab cases which were up compared to budget. Deliveries were also up 11% versus budget and up

53:17 – 54:12Speaker 1

22% versus prior year. And Nicku admits were up 48% uh to budget and up 7% versus prior year. Ebida margin percent was 8.3% for August and it's 8.1% year-to date. operating cash increased uh 5.7 million mainly due to the receipt of fiscal year 25 HIP funds which were booked in June but the cash was received in August. There is no impact on the August financial statement uh for those funds. Uh days on cash on hand for all sources increased 113 days or up six days also mainly due to the receipt of the FY 25 HIP funds. debt coverage was 2.8 similar to prior month of 2.52. Um, and this concludes my report. Thank you.

54:10 – 54:54Speaker 1

Got a question or comment from Commissioner Lawrence? Uh, yes. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Uh, Phil, I guess this question is for you in talking about the RFP process. Could you clarify? Are we sending the RFP out only to entities that we want to receive an RFP response from, or are we are we allowing any qualified organization maybe nationwide that wants to bid on the RFP to to uh send in a request for Yeah, to respond. I'll say any qualified embedded organization uh will be able to receive an RFP. Okay. So, they they don't necessarily have to hear from us. they could contact the

54:51 – 55:16Speaker 1

the hospital and or your the organization that's correct managing this. Okay. All right. That that's my question. Thank you. Okay. Any other questions or comments for either Mr. Mazuka or Mr. Fowler? I see none. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you both, gentlemen. That uh Oh, and then uh the chair recognizes uh Commissioner Paul Webb.

55:15 – 56:11Speaker 1

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Uh the steering committee met tonight because at our last meeting uh we were unsure of who would be elected chair of this body and so we appointed uh Commissioner Bethard to the uh tax study committee but our bylaws our rules say that that is not something that can be done. And so we met tonight and uh the committee looked at the options on the spreadsheet that we saw earlier this year in August before our recommendations. And tonight the recommendation from the steering committee is to uh remove uh chair beard for our rules from the tax study committee and replace him subject to this body's uh approval with commissioner Drew Torres. And comm by the way commissioner Torres is aware of that and he says that he accepts that if we vote to put him on the tax study committee.

56:09 – 56:39Speaker 1

So do I hear a motion in that Mr. Web? That'd be a motion, Commissioner Chair, to put two on there. Have a second, I believe, from Commissioner Lawrence. Oh, sorry, Commissioner Sanford. Uh, any questions or comments on that change? Guess we'll do this with a voice vote. We'll do this with a voice vote. Um, seeing no questions or comments, if you're ready to vote, if you're in favor of making that change to the tax committee, uh, signify by saying I. I.

56:34 – 58:05Speaker 1

Any oppose, say no. passes unanimously. Which brings us to elections and appointments. Under county commission, we have a three-year term expiring 10 of 28 for the education impact fee task force. Terms expiring are Judy Herbert, Jennifer Mason, Steve Smith, Paul Webb, and Matt Williams. Nominations are Chaz Morton, Guy Carden, Betsy Hester, Paul Webb, and Tom Tunnacliffe. I have a motion from Commissioner Greg Sanford and seconded by Commissioner Ricky Jones. Uh any questions or discussion? Seeing none, if you're ready to vote, if you're in favor of those nominations, signify by pressing your yes button. Any opposed or no? Anyone wishing to change their vote, please do so at this time. Commissioner Williams, record the vote, please. Mr. Whitby, 22 yes, zero no. Motion passes. Next item on our agenda is the consent agenda. I'll entertain a motion. I have one, a proper motion made by Commissioner Tunnliff, seconded by Commissioner Torres. Any questions or comments on the consent agenda? Seeing none, if you're ready to vote, if you're in favor of accepting the consent agenda, signify by pressing your yes button. Any opposed or no? Anyone wishing to change their vote, please do so at this time. Commissioner Williams, record the vote, please. Mr. with me.

58:03 – 58:48Speaker 1

22 yes, zero no. Consent agenda is passed. Next, we have unfinished business. Uh, former resolution 92537, now resolution 10251. Resolution authorizing the Williamson County Mayor to approve an addendum to extend extend the conference center operating agreement with Kurther's Hotel Partners LLC for the continued operation of the conference center at Cool Springs. Proper motion made by Commissioner Steve Smith, seconded by Commissioner Tom Tunnliffe. The property committee was one in favor, four against. Budget committee was five in favor, zero against. Uh commission action taken at last month's meeting was to defer to this month. Uh questions or comments?

58:47 – 59:17Speaker 1

Budget committee. No, I'm I'm sorry. The explanation for this I don't have budget on here. The new budget committee. Oh, and then budget committee that met this month was four in favor, zero against. Explanation, please. Commissioner Morton, I think everybody was here uh 10 minutes ago uh saw the saw the presentation, so I think everybody understands what's before us as far as extending uh the operating agreement on this. Uh, Commissioner Williams.

59:15 – 59:51Speaker 1

Um, like I said, I think my only concern is the length of of the agreement with two years remaining and then doing a 10ear, but per what was discussed and confirmed with us, it seems like 10 years would be 10 effective years would be acceptable. So I'm going to offer amendment that in paragraph one on addendum two like paragraph number one it's the third from the bottom that the date be amended from October 14th of 2037 to October 14th of 2035.

59:48 – 1:00:33Speaker 1

I have a proper motion. Do I hear a second? Seconded by Commissioner Tunnliffe. So we have a proper motion and a second to amend the date to one more time. Commissioner Williams. It's currently uh in paragraph number one, third paragraph from the bottom. It it just the end date of the extension currently is October 14th of 2037 and amending that to October 14th of 2035. Why am I not seeing that on my copy? It's on. Oh, it's on the It's on addendum two. On the add agendum. Proper motion in a second. Any questions or comments on the motion in the second? Commissioner Mary Smith on the amendment. No, I'll I'll wait until the

1:00:31 – 1:01:15Speaker 1

Okay. Commissioner Sanford on the amendment. I'll pass. I'll wait. I'm moving on to And they removed it. So, any questions or comments on the amendment? Seeing none, if you're ready to vote. It's being loaded. We'll give it a moment. Now it's loaded. If you're in favor of the amendment, signify by I don't think she's kept it. Is this the original or the amendment? Amendment is please. Voice vote on the amendment, please. She's asking you to Oh, okay. The amendment. We've been requested to voice vote. So take you'll need to erase the vote.

1:01:13 – 1:01:57Speaker 1

Yeah, they need to clear those off there. I think they got it, but they do not have the amendment. So, I can roll call or voice, whatever. We'll do a voice vote first and then if it's close, we'll do a roll call. Okay. If you're in favor of the amendment, signify by saying I. I. If you're opposed, nay. Might have to do a roll call. [Applause] All right. Commissioner Ielo, I'm sorry. Or was that nay? I I Okay. Sorry. Couldn't hear. I should have said I and no. So, we'll change it to I and no.

1:01:55 – 1:02:40Speaker 1

I and no. Okay. Okay. For Mr. Whidby. Commissioner Bethard. I. Commissioner Carden. Commissioner Guffy. Hi. Commissioner Hayes. Commissioner Herbert. Commissioner Hester. Hi. Commissioner Jones. Hi, Commissioner Lawrence. Hi, Commissioner Mason. Oh, sorry, she's not here. Commissioner Morton, hi. Commissioner O'Neal, Commissioner Petty, Commissioner Richards,

1:02:38 – 1:03:16Speaker 1

no. Commissioner Sanford, no. Commissioner Smith, no. Commissioner. Oh, sorry. Mary Smith. Commissioner Steve Smith. Hi. Commissioner Stresser. No. Commissioner Sturgeon. No. Commissioner Torres. No. Commissioner Tunnliff. Hi. Commissioner Webb. Yes. Yes. Gotcha. Commissioner Williams. Hi.

1:03:14 – 1:03:58Speaker 1

All right. One, two, three, four, four, five, six, seven, eight. So, I have 14 yes, eight no. The amendment passes. Moving on to the resolution as amended. Uh, questions or comments? We'll try to take them in the order they were before. Looks like they're popping up in that order, so that makes it easy for me. Uh, and Diane, Commissioner Mary Smith. Yeah, and I apologize. I probably should have asked this question. from the Chartwell um operators. How many local governments do you all partner with on conference centers or hotels in your current portfolio? But this is the only one.

1:03:55 – 1:04:28Speaker 1

Okay, that's really my point. Um I think for me I think it's a a bigger picture of is this really the role of local government to be in a private industry? Um, so while I do want you all to succeed because it does do well for our community and it's a great conference center and I, you know, I think it's a it's a great addition to our community, I just don't feel it's the role of government to be in this particular private industry. So that's why I was a no vote. Thank you. Commissioner Sanford,

1:04:26 – 1:04:54Speaker 1

I guess to the fellow commissioners, I it have a hard time with this one. It baffles me. It's mindboggling to me why we're extending a contract 10 years for a company that is making almost $200 million a year that owns and has accured over $1.7 billion in assets. I don't know where you're getting the figure for 200 Google how much y'all make a year. I don't have that number, but it's not 200 million.

1:04:51 – 1:05:50Speaker 1

Gotcha. Okay. Um it's kind of funny that you don't know the number, right? So, um, we got a new mayor coming on this year. No, next year, excuse me. Um, got a lot of new commissioners going to be up here, coming on. And it's mindboggling why we're even entertaining doing this two years early. We have, in my opinion, we have no business even in this situation. Um, it's made roughly said 4.8 million over 26 years. It's 184,000 rough math a year. I think if we sold that, we'd get that money back and and then some. Um this is just it's ludicrous why we're even having this conversation. They're a big boy company. Put your big boy pants on. Go figure it out. It's not our role as a government to supplement you guys in my opinion. Right. Um so, um figure it out and uh my vote is going to be no. Commissioner Richards,

1:05:48 – 1:07:47Speaker 1

uh I've got a comment. I'll be voting no on this, but uh I I think most of the commissioners got the email exchange that I had with um our attorney, Mr. Mosley. In that email, uh Mr. Mosley states stated that the Marriott is a capital the Marriott Convention Center is a capital improvement property because quote it was integral to the construction of the hotel and conference center. That justification for why the county supposedly doesn't have to bid this out. So, let me get this straight. Because the hotel and convention center were built 30 years ago, we're now calling a management services contract a capital improvement property. That's a creative interpretation to say the least. By that logic, mowing the lawn must be a capital investment, and changing a light bulb probably qualifies as a facilities upgrade. The law is clear. Capital improvement projects are about land, buildings, and tangible assets, things you build or acquire, not people you hire to run what already exists. Are we really expected to believe that a management contract is a capital improvement property that takes some impressive word gymnastics? Let's also remember that this is being brought to us 2 years early, long before the current contract even expires. There's no legal deadline, no financial necessity, and certainly no rush other than to get it approved before the questions are fully answered. Is the goal here really to modernize our understanding of capital improvement property or just to find a clever way around competitive bid bidding and get this approved early? This might make life easier for the hotel operator, but it's a disservice to the taxpayers who expect transparency, accountability, and fiscal responsibility from their government. Every one of us is up here is elected to serve the taxpayer, not to shield vendors from competition. And I think we can all agree that after nearly 30 years under the same contract, the taxpayer would no doubt benefit if this were bid out again. They deserve to know that they're getting the best deal possible, not the most convenient one

1:07:44 – 1:07:55Speaker 1

for the people already on for the people already at the table. Thank you, Commissioner Lawrence.

1:07:52 – 1:09:52Speaker 1

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. This is not the first time this issue has been brought up before this body. Um, in fact, I don't remember the year. Some of you may have better memory than I do, but we did a pretty deep dive into the financials of this arrangement and as to actually as to whether we could sell it or get get out of our portion of it. I agree with some of my fellow commissioners. You know, whether we should be in this or not as as a function of government um is fundamentally a question I would answer no to. But the fact is we are in this business because it's it's a a arrangement that we've inherited. And the question came up, okay, well, if we want to get out of this, how do we do it? And as you get into the details of that, this arrangement is kind of like being a minority owner in an LLC. If you if you understand what that in the business world means, it means you don't have a lot of control over the destiny of the um of the operation. Um you know, for one thing, we've got a joint partner, which is the city of Franklin. Franklin's already voted on this. They they voted last month. They they um did they vote to extend it to 2037? Okay. So, so they so they've already voted to extend it to 2037. We approached them about buying our our uh portion of it out uh several years ago. They were not interested. Um get putting a value on that. We actually engaged an appraiser. Um putting a value on what our portion would be worth is very difficult. Um, as Michael showed on that slide earlier, the way this the hotel is laid out, it's a joint

1:09:49 – 1:10:52Speaker 1

operation. Uh, you can't really just sell the conference center because you don't have a kitchen. You don't have any way of serving the guest um without the other partner. So, um it it is a arrangement that I think we need to continue to have discussions about. Um the obvious um buyer from our standpoint would be the city of Franklin uh to to buy us out or perhaps the hotel at some point would want to buy the whole thing, you know, but from both us and the city of Franklin. That that could be an option as well. Um, I don't think voting for this tonight precludes us from having those discussions. U and and that might be something we want to do um moving forward. But the um the situation is just to say, well, we don't we don't know that we want to be in this arrangement. We want to get out of this arrangement. It's not as simple as you might think to get out of it.

1:10:50Speaker 1

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

1:10:52 – 1:12:21Speaker 1

Commissioner Williams. I think Commissioner Lawrence did a good job kind of redirecting the tone a little bit. I'll do a little bit more. Kind of expressed the same sentiments from property committee. I'm actually very appreciative of the private partner relationship we have over there. Conference center is profitable, has been profitable for a long time. We've displayed the numbers. Um want to be good partners in here. I think philosophically my concern has always been sometimes the terms the length of terms that we do contracts and agreements with, right? and the dynamics in our community are changing so rapidly that we need more we need more intervals and opportunities to re-evaluate certain decisions than what we maybe have philosophically historically done in the past. And so that's the thing that gives me pause is just with two years remaining having to do a 10-year extension was the original ask. Um you know I want to shorten that down so we have another re-evaluation but that does not I am so would would we decide to do the conference center in today's environment? Probably not right but it is one I think commissioner Lawrence laid out the facts. It's it's kind of a murky situation. It's not as easy as just getting out of it. So with that as a backs stop and if we do want to pursue looking at that that that's fine but in the meantime I do want just want to reiterate I do appreciate the the partnership with you guys it has been profitable and I'll be voting in support to to do this. It's just in future iterations of this don't be surprised that if we ask for a shorter extension period so that we can just re-evaluate at a quicker interval.

1:12:21Speaker 1

Thank you. Understood. Commissioner Steve Smith.

1:12:24 – 1:14:02Speaker 1

Thank you Mr. Chairman. Um, I appreciate the comments by Commissioner Lawrence and Commissioner Williams. 30 years ago, before there was much of anything in Cool Springs, this was seen to be an incredible public private partnership to drive economic development. and the the various partners uh running the operation over the years have been have been great corporate partners and very supportive. Uh they've uh allowed us to generate some of the numbers that Moren talked about in terms of tourism. Uh it's been very beneficial over the years. Uh as Commissioner Williams said, would we do it today? Would we have to do it today? Maybe not. But uh the way it was done was uh very thoughtful. It was uh between the city and the county. Uh it was done in the most efficient way possible and uh I will be supporting it uh as amended now. But uh uh it has over the years certainly been very beneficial and Charwell as they mentioned having so many properties in the county they've been a great corporate partner as well. Thank you

1:13:59Speaker 1

Commissioner Hayes.

1:14:02 – 1:16:02Speaker 1

Hi there. Um, I want to um agree with several points that commissioners have made about I was in corporate America for a long time. I'm a county commissioner because I represent my constituents who are taxpayers. And honestly, no offense, but my concern is my taxpayers, not your loan, not your loan terms, not what's best for you guys. I'm looking at what's best for our county as a whole as well as my district. I just don't see why this is on fire. We have two years. When we voted it down in committee, we had two years and two months. I do not understand if there's anything co taught us the world changes and can change very rapidly. So why would we in why would we agree to a 10ear or an 8year whatever term it is two years in advance absolutely makes zero sense and I've talked to two CEO friends just in passing and they were like are you crazy? So again, I don't I just don't understand what's on fire for us. I don't see anything on fire. I'm disappointed that the city of Franklin didn't feel the need to be more um critical in their thinking and they went ahead and voted it in. That's rather sad. But I would like to see more favorable terms because as we know things change and terms, we should have agreeable terms. Like Commissioner Sturgeon says, if we want to exit this contract and sell, it needs to be beneficial to our taxpayers. Once again, my responsibility to the people who elected me, not to you guys. And no disrespect, I appreciate we've had a great relationship. And 30 years ago, it made absolute sense, it sounds like. But now things have changed. Life has changed. The city's changed. So, I just am very disturbed why people are on fire to vote this in two years in advance. It absolutely makes no sense. Absolutely makes no sense. Like Commissioner Sanford said, we have a new commissioners. We have new mayor coming in the next year. things can drastically change and I don't feel it's prudent to vote for something well in advance. I I

1:16:00 – 1:16:12Speaker 1

just think it's very irresponsible and I'm I'm disappointed if if this gets passed. Thank you. I will not be supporting it. Commissioner Torres.

1:16:09 – 1:16:48Speaker 1

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, I sat through the, excuse me, the property committee meeting and, you know, Commissioner Williams, I think, shares the same concern that I have is just the length of the uh, the term. And I don't know, I'm trying to remember, Commissioner Williams, did was there any discussion about potentially doing five-year with renewal options on the back end on an annual basis that maybe afforded us some additional flexibility? So, if you know, markets are changing and I'm trying to remember what the discussion was. Sorry.

1:16:45 – 1:18:22Speaker 1

Absolutely. Commissioner Williams. Um I'm not sure this on but um um yeah the request of property committee was exactly to that. It was just philosophically instead of these 10-year renewals since and and this is what you guys stated in committee was that your typical finance cycle was a threeyear or a fiveyear finance loan. So with their deacto being two years left, if we offered a five-year extension, that should suffice either one of those financing options that you pursue and would give us another re-evaluation point here seven years from now. That was that was our request coming out of property. I think and I'll hand it back a second, but from what I heard in the explanation is that and and I will say I don't know if your explanation was sufficient, you know, just to explain it, but um that he says that that was not long enough. I'll hand it back over. Yeah, thanks. So, and I think that kind of highlights the concern that I had and I know we had a one-on-one conversation after the committee meeting. two years early with five years is probably where I was willing to go tonight. Eight I'm not willing to go. Um the fact that you know your response was that you're the lenders are not are pushing back quite honestly that's really not our problem. That's that's a you issue to have to solve as a business uh owner and leader. Um I don't know if offering an amendment for 5 years would pass. Um, but I'm going to offer an amendment to reduce it to 5 years. Um, the length of the term.

1:18:21 – 1:18:57Speaker 1

Second. I have a proper motion to uh do a second amendment that would limit the term to five years. That motion made by Commissioner Torres and seconded by Commissioner Richards. Any questions or comments on the new amendment? So, was that modified? It's already been incorporated resolution. This is an amendment to the resolution that's previously been amended. So it would be until 2032.

1:18:59 – 1:19:43Speaker 1

So it's not a fiveyear amendment. It's a threeyear because there's two years remaining. Then you need to clarify if that's what he's asking. Are you saying five years until 303 2032 or are you saying seven years the two existing plus five years on top of it? No. So the current agreement um the current agreement would end in two years. Correct. Correct. What Commissioner Williams and the property talked about was five years on top of the be 2032. a sevenyear total agreement.

1:19:41 – 1:20:26Speaker 1

Your amendment is to do the the total of seven or a total of five. Five additional years on top of the two. You would change the language to 2032, right? Changing the language to 2032. All right. U I did see a question or comment on the board. I'll ask again. So, this is a new amendment to the resolution 9, previously 92537, now 10251. Any questions or comments on the new amendment that would reduce the term to 2032? Commissioner Williams, I think this would be an appropriate time to maybe expound upon the conversations you had with your financing agents to why what is the reasoning as to

1:20:24 – 1:21:09Speaker 1

We're in negotiation right now with a 5-year loan. The lender has a concern that at the maturity of that five-year loan, there's only two years left. So therefore, please speak to the mic if you could. There's risk to us getting out of that loan that we're in the same spot we are now in five years. That's the concern because they're going to be, you know, how do you get out because you only have two years left. So we're in the exact same spot we're in right now. If so, okay, then look, I'm not sense I'm not a financial genius, right? But

1:21:06 – 1:21:41Speaker 1

the current loan that you're seeking comes with a 5-year term. Yes. That will expire two years prior to our agreement expiring. Exactly. Which is the essentially the same spot that we're in right now. Exactly. So there I'm there's an assumption then that you'll probably be pursuing another round of financial of a loan around that time. Exactly. And that's what you're talking about is that then we're going to only have two years left. And that's what that lender is echoing to me is that you're going to have risk taking them out at the end of their fiveyear term.

1:21:39 – 1:22:21Speaker 1

Okay. So, but what all I'm trying to help you what we're trying to help you solve right now is the immediate 5-year term that you're needing suffice. Does that fiveyear loan that you're pursuing come with some contingencies of beyond the five years? No. So, the current loan that you're seeking is a five-year term is fully sufficed at five years from now. Yes. Okay. Any other questions or comments on the amendment, the new amendment? Commissioner Sanford, I'm baffled. Once again, you're seeking a five-year term, correct?

1:22:20 – 1:23:01Speaker 1

And we're going to thinking about giving you a seven-year term, but that's not good enough. My math's not mathing, I guess. Right. Well, their their concern is at the end of the maturity of this 5-year loan, there's only two years remaining. So, there will be a risk with regard to us refinancing the hotel at the end of the 5-year term that we're looking to go. Would you rather get some financing today or or risk not getting any financing at all? It it doesn't make any sense to me. It's like you want your cake and eat it too. I'm totally confused. Commissioner Petty, yeah, I'm a little confused, too.

1:22:57 – 1:23:29Speaker 1

Uh I'm new to this, but uh you you run the the program. We're we're silent partners, right? We don't do anything except to collect a check or lose money every month, right? That's correct. Okay. So, you're this is your show. You're running it. And all you need from us is say, "Okay, we're going to we're going to have a contract, but if we don't give you a contract, what's going to happen? We can't Okay, we've been doing we've been doing it for 30 years, right?" Understood.

1:23:26 – 1:24:10Speaker 1

So, I mean, all of a sudden, okay, we're not going to give you a contract anymore. I mean, uh, all we're saying is we want to prepare for the next two years, for the next mayor and the next, uh, uh, comm, you know, commissioners, and we don't feel it's right for us to make that decision. That I think that's the point that that I I think we're making, and you you you do have a lot of resources. You've got 30-year track record. So, I'm having a hard time understanding this one. No, we've only owned the hotel since 2018. We didn't build it and haven't owned it for 30. Yeah. the process been going on that long. Correct. Yes. Okay. Any additional questions or comments on the new amendment?

1:24:11 – 1:24:54Speaker 1

Seeing none, if you're ready to vote on the new amendment reducing the term to 2032. Again, this being resolution 10251. If you're in favor of that amendment, signify by pressing. Is it loaded or is this Do we need to do a voice vote? I don't think that's correct. Question just to make sure that we're correct. as far as this goes because to me what it looks like we're voting on is the amended resolution. So I want to make sure that we're voting on amending it to show the year is 2032. I I just didn't want this vote to take place up here and it'd be wrong. I I have a roll call again if we need to. I'm just not sure. I I didn't want them voting because the way I look at it, it's like we're voting on the res. Let's

1:24:52 – 1:25:37Speaker 1

get an explanation from was amended right now as amended 10251 is until 2035. Yes, sir. Correct. And I just want it this vote would change that to 2032. It's a separate amendment. Yes, sir. I I understand. It's just what the board shows looks like that we're voting on that 8-year extension that Commissioner Williams had approved. I just didn't want us to to vote that and try to record it. I have roll call if we need to. Let's do roll call then. Mr. Whidby, go ahead. Sorry, please. I want to make sure we're doing right. Uh, Commissioner Iel. Yes. Okay. Commissioner Bethard. Yes.

1:25:33 – 1:26:17Speaker 1

Yes, sir. Commissioner Carden. Commissioner Guffy. Yes. Commissioner Hayes. Yeah. Commissioner Herbert, this is to 2032. Yes, ma'am. To amend it the five years. No. Commissioner Hester. Yes. Commissioner Jones. Yes. Commissioner Lawrence. Yes. Commissioner Morton. Yes. Commissioner O'Neal.

1:26:16 – 1:26:58Speaker 1

Yes. Commissioner Petty, no. Commissioner Richards, yes. Commissioner Sanford, no. Commissioner Mary Smith, yes. Commissioner Steve Smith, Commissioner Stresser, yes. Commissioner Sturgeon, yes. Commissioner Torres, yes. Commissioner Tunnliffe, no. Commissioner Webb, no. Commissioner Williams, yes.

1:27:02 – 1:27:40Speaker 1

I have 14 yes, eight no. The amendment passes. We're back to the resolution now as amended for the second time. again that taking the term to 2032. Any questions or comments on the resolution as amended? Uh, Commissioner Mary Smith. Yeah, I I just still want to state though that I still think that this is something that uh a local government probably needs to rethink as far as being in the conference center business. So, while I do appreciate the shorter term, I still can't support this simple. Thank you.

1:27:37 – 1:28:17Speaker 1

Any other questions or comments? Seeing none, if you're ready to vote. If you're in favor of resolution 10251 as amended, signify by pressing your yes button. Opposed or no. Anyone wishing to change their vote, please do so at this time. Record the vote, please, Mr. Whby. 14 yes, eight no. Resolution passes. As amended. Where's my Okay,

1:28:14 – 1:28:56Speaker 1

moving on to new business and appropriations. If I can find my resolutions here. Number two, resolution 10252. Resolution appropriating and amending the 2526 public transportation capital projects budget by $100,000. revenues to come from reserve account and county general fund balance. Proper motion made by Commissioner Drew Torres, seconded by Commissioner Steve Smith. The budget committee was 440 against. Explanation, please. Commissioner Morton. Yes. This is just moving from reserve account so that we could purchase new vans for the TMA.

1:28:53 – 1:29:16Speaker 1

Any questions or comments? Seeing none, if you're ready to vote, if you're in favor, signify by pressing your yes button, opposed or no. Anyone wishing to change their vote, please do so at this time. Record the vote, please, Mr. Whby. 22 22 yes, zero no.

1:29:13 – 1:29:47Speaker 1

Resolution passes. Resolution 10253, resolution appropriating and amending the 2526 health department budget by $85,72.39 for salary costs not covered in local health services contract revenues to come from unappropriated county general fund balance. Proper motion made by Commissioner Drew Torres and seconded by Commissioner Steve Smith. The human resources committee was 441 against. Budget committee, I'm sorry, public health committee was 340 against. Budget committee was 440 against. Explanation please, Commissioner Morton.

1:29:46 – 1:30:19Speaker 1

Uh the health department received a significant amount of its funds from the state um back in June when we raised our employees 75 percentile level that qualifies some of our health department employees under that. The state funds have not caught up to that. Williams instead of chance. Any questions or comments? Uh, looks like I may have one from Commissioner Hayes. I have a question for Kathy. Question for Kathy. Okay. Yeah.

1:30:24 – 1:31:08Speaker 1

Hi there. Hello. Just want to understand um I read in here that it says that the state calculates the health department salaries on a 7 and a half hour workday. Is that assuming an 8 hour workday with a 30-m minute unpaid break? Is that how that works out to seven and a half? Correct. Okay. So, is that something we would correct in the future with them? Because I think we give an hour. Do we get an hour long or 30 minute unpaid? Uh state employees actually get an hour for lunch. county employees get 30 minutes. Um, I can tell you that we've had contracts in place, this cost reimbursement contract for about 40 years. They've always calculated it on the 1,950 hours.

1:31:08 – 1:31:39Speaker 1

Okay. But this is actually the first year based on the salary increases and so forth that we might run a little bit short. Okay. And so just I'm making the point not not for you Kathy but for our voters that um the pay increase that we all voted in this is one of the repercussions of that that additional monies are taken out of our taxpayers hands. So just want to make that point. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Any other questions or comments?

1:31:39 – 1:31:57Speaker 1

I see none. If you're ready to vote, if you're in favor of the resolution, signify by pressing your yes button. Any opposed or no? Anyone wishing to change their vote, please do so at this time. Record the vote, please, Mr. Whby.

1:31:53 – 1:32:32Speaker 1

22, yes, zero, no. Resolution passes. Resolution 10254, resolution appropriating and amending the 2526 Williamson County DUI Recovery Court uh by $95,941.36 for the Tennessee Opioid Abatement Council funds. Revenues to come from rollover federal grant funds. Proper motion made by Commissioner Steve Smith, seconded by Commissioner Tom Tunnacliffe. The law enforcement committee was 340 against, budget committee was 440 against. Explanation, please, Commissioner Tunnliffe. Yeah, these are grant funds that have no match required.

1:32:29 – 1:33:13Speaker 1

Any questions or comments? Seeing none, if you're ready to vote, if you're in favor, signify by pressing your yes button. Any opposed or no? Anyone wishing to change their vote, please do so at this time. Commissioner Sanford. No, we stepped out. Uh Mark, uh Commissioner Sanford is absent momentarily. Record the vote, please. Mr. Whby, I have 21. Yes. Zero. Res. He's He's not abstaining. He's absent. Yeah, he's not abstaining, but I don't guess it matters. How would that need to be modified to absent? They're fixing it. Yes.

1:33:11 – 1:33:42Speaker 1

Okay. The record would be 21. Yes. Three absent. Are y'all able to change the record at There we go. Or no, you changed it to yes. Then it should I have I can't turn your mic on. It's I haven't reported 21. Yes. Z no and one absent.

1:33:39 – 1:34:23Speaker 1

Thank you, Mr. Whby. Resolution 10255, resolution authorizing a grant contract between Williamson County, Tennessee, and the Tennessee Department of Health and Human Services on behalf of the Williamson County General Sessions DUI Court and amending the 2526 DUI Court budget by $363,876 revenues to come from grant funds. Proper motion made by Commissioner Tunnliff, seconded by Commissioner Drew Torres. Any question or sorry, uh, explanate, I'm way ahead of myself. Law enforcement, three in favor, zero against. Budget committee, four in favor, zero against. Explanation, please. Commissioner Tunnliff. Once again, these are grant funds with no match required. Yeah.

1:34:21 – 1:35:03Speaker 1

And I may have a question or comment from Commissioner Petty. Just a real quick question here. U this is government, this money comes from this federal government initially. And since we're in a standoff here and the government shut down, have we already received this money or is this going to be delayed? Mrs. Ro, Miss Riley, we have yet to receive any funds. This is actually a reimburseable grant. So, we have to spend the money first and then we file for reimbursement. Um, so at this time, we will just kind of also be in a standing point, okay, until we're ready to be able to to do that reimbursement. So, at this time, we've received no money.

1:35:01 – 1:35:24Speaker 1

Thank you. Any other questions or comments? Seeing none, if you're ready to vote, if you're in favor, signify by pressing your yes button. Any opposed or no? Anyone wishing to change their vote, please do so at this time. Record the vote, please. Mr. Whby 22, yes, zero, no.

1:35:21 – 1:35:59Speaker 1

Resolution passes. Resolution 10256, resolution authorizing a grant contract between Williamson County, Tennessee, and the Department of Health and Human Services on behalf of the Williamson County General Session Veterans Treatment Court and amending the 2526 Veterans Treatment Court budget by $383,642 revenues to come from grant funds. Proper motion made by Commissioner Steve Smith and seconded by Commissioner Judy Herbert. Law enforcement was 340 against. Budget committee was 440 against. Explanation, please. Commissioner Tunnliffe. And again, these are grant funds that require no county match.

1:35:56 – 1:36:41Speaker 1

Any questions or comments? Seeing none, if you're ready to vote, if you're in favor, signify by pressing your yes button. Any opposed or no. Anyone wishing to change their vote, please do so at this time. Record the vote, please, Mr. Whby. 22 yes, zero no. Resolution passes. Resolution 10259, resolution accepting a donation from Friends of Williamson County Animal Center and appropriating and amending the 2526 Animal Center budget by $95,000. Revenues to come from donations. Proper motion made by Commissioner Greg Sanford and seconded by Commissioner Judy Herbert. The public health committee was 340 against. Budget committee was 440 against. Explanation, please, Commissioner Morton.

1:36:40Speaker 1

Uh this generous donation from the friends of the Williams County Animal Center. used to uh pay for the position for our possibilities program.

1:36:48 – 1:37:41Speaker 1

Any questions or comments? Seeing none, if you're ready to vote, if you're in favor, signify by pressing your yes button. Any opposed or no? Anyone wishing to change their vote, please do so at this time. Record the vote, please, Mr. Whby. 22, yes, zero, no. Resolution passes. Resolution 102510, resolution authorizing the Williamson County mayor to execute a grant contract with the state of Tennessee Department of Safety and Homeland Security and appropriating and amending the Office of Public Safety's 2526 budget by $30,65 revenues to come from grant funds. Proper motion made by Commissioner Sanford, seconded by Commissioner Mary Smith. Uh law enforcement was 340 against, budget committee was 440 against. Explanation please, Commissioner Tunnacliffe. These are grant funds requiring no county match.

1:37:40 – 1:38:25Speaker 1

And Commissioner Hayes, quick question. Um, Commissioner Tonic, do you know who was able to obtain this for us? Commissioner, I do not. Is this another one that came from Beth? This come from Connor? I was going to give Connor. Oh, there's Connor. I just want to say thank you. I think this is fantastic. I don't know how they do it, but I think this will save this makes it much more safe if somebody's navigation says, "Hey, pull over. Here comes emergency vehicle." So, thank you. I just want to say thank you. Absolutely. And I have to say thank you to Jay Bonson, fire coordinator, who's here, also Beth Authors, and Andrea Andrea Hastings in the mayor's office who helped with this grant project. It was definitely a team effort. Awesome. Thank you so much. While you're up there, could you tell us a little bit how how it works?

1:38:23 – 1:39:08Speaker 1

Sure. So, this is technology that will go in our our fire apparatus for the the county volunteer departments and it uses cell phone signals to communicate with GPS units on vehicles that are on the road. And so when lights and sirens are activated in emergency vehicles, it will notify drivers who are using their GPS, which a lot of people do, a little popup will come on their screen that says an emergency vehicle is operating in your area and just give an extra warning on top of lights and sirens that they should be on the lookout for a vehicle and pull over safely to the side of the road. They need to be using like Google Google Maps, Waves, something like that. or it it interfaces with the uh with Google Maps ways sort of the popular uh mapping interfaces that most people use. Very cool.

1:39:07 – 1:39:33Speaker 1

Very cool. Absolutely. Any questions or comments? Seeing none, if you're ready to vote, if you're in favor, signify by pressing your yes button. Any opposed or no? Anyone wishing to change their vote, please do so at this time. Record the vote, please, Mr. Whby. 22 yes, zero no. Resolution passes. That was number 10, right?

1:39:32 – 1:40:07Speaker 1

So, we're now on resolution now is 102511. A resolution authorizing the Williamson County mayor to enter into a lease agreement with Brightstone, Inc. and amending the 2526 sheriff's office budget by $25,600. Revenues to come from county general fund balance. Proper motion made by Commissioner Greg Sanford and seconded by Commissioner Barb Sturgeon. Property committee was 540 against. Budget committee was 440 against. Explanation, please. Commissioner Morton. Uh, with construction of the jail, the K9 unit has been displaced. This gives our dogs a home.

1:40:04 – 1:40:26Speaker 1

Any questions or comments? Seeing none, if you're ready to vote, if you're in favor, signify by pressing your yes button. Any opposed or no. Anyone wishing to change their vote, please do so at this time. Record the vote, please. Mr. Whidby. 22, yes, zero, no.

1:40:22 – 1:41:07Speaker 1

Resolution passes. Resolution 102512, resolution authorizing the Williamson County mayor to enter into a letter of agreement with the state of Tennessee Department of Finance and Administration and appropriating and amending the 2526 Sheriff's Office budget by 245,22422 revenues to come from grant funds and unro unappropriated county general fund balance. Proper motion made by Commissioner Greg Sanford and seconded by Commissioner Drew Torres. Law enforcement was three in favor, zero against. budget committee was four in favor, zero against. Explanation, please, Commissioner Tunnliffe. Yeah, these funds are uh a rollover from last year and part of a match and no matching funds required.

1:41:04 – 1:41:26Speaker 1

Any questions or comments? Seeing none, if you're ready to vote. If you're in favor, signify by pressing your yes button. Any opposed or no? Anyone wishing to change their vote, please do so at this time. Record the vote, please. Mr. Whippy. 22 yes, zero no.

1:41:22 – 1:41:56Speaker 1

Resolution passes. Resolution 102513, resolution appropriating and amending the 2526 sheriff's department budget by 22,936.33 revenues to come from rollover federal pass through state grant funds. Proper motion made by Commissioner Greg Sanford, seconded by Commissioner David O'Neal. Budget committee was 440 against. Law enforcement was 340 against. Explanation please, Commissioner Tunnliff. These are grant funds that were not used last year and are being rolled over.

1:41:53 – 1:42:14Speaker 1

Any questions or comments? Seeing none, if you're ready to vote, if you're in favor, signify by pressing your yes button. Any opposed or no. Anyone wishing to change their vote, please do so at this time. Record the vote, please. Mr. Whippby. 22 yes. Zero no.

1:42:11 – 1:42:56Speaker 1

Resolution passes. Resolution 102514. Resolution authorizing the issuance, sale, and payment of not to exceed $32,800,000 of county district school bonds of Williamson County, Tennessee, and providing for the levy of taxes for the payment of debt services on those bonds. Proper motion made by Commissioner Tom Tunnliff and seconded by Commissioner Steve Smith. Budget committee was 440 against. Explanation, please, Commissioner Morton. Uh, this the issuance of the bonds uh breakdown Phoebe gave us. I think everybody has those of the school projects that we'd approved previously and u other upgrades. Any questions or comments? Commissioner Mary Smith.

1:42:53 – 1:43:50Speaker 1

Yeah. Um thank you uh chair. Uh so Phoebe, I know that I reached out to you and I know that the the there's been some savings that we have realized that I believe the purchasing and insurance committee have voted on. And I think the email you sent me, which I really appreciated, I think it was about 8 million, but you had said that because we wouldn't actually be able to realize any of those savings until January, which is I think when the contract starts for those savings. So, I know we we may not see the full 8 million this year, but there is the potential to see at least the half of that, the four million. So, I was wondering if it'd be feasible to not to maybe amend this one just by that $4 million and maybe pay out of fund balance two of those projects, the maintenance on the schools and then the fire engine um for this year if that would be plausible if I could suggest an amendment for this particular bond.

1:43:48 – 1:44:35Speaker 1

Um, Commissioner, you can always request an amendment. Um, so I would again my statement was we have yet to receive those savings. They are projected. So I cannot guarantee that we are going to hit 4 million or 8 million. Again, those those savings will not take place until January 1 when the contract goes into place. Um, a lot of times we don't see those savings for at least, you know, six to eight months out before we even start seeing those because of the timing of those of those um claims being paid. So, at this time, my recommendation is to to not count on those as we have yet to realize them physically in in our coffers. Okay. Think I got that one. Okay. Thank you.

1:44:34Speaker 1

Sure. Commissioner Sanford, I got a question for caller Scott real quick.

1:44:44 – 1:45:14Speaker 1

Yes, sir. Director, one of these things on here is firet truck for triune. Obviously in my district when can we expect to see that fire engine? So we're probably about 3 four years out at this point Jay from for the engine for triune. So we order in the fall. Yes. Yeah. Three to four years out if we order in the fall. Sir, Lord help us all. Thank you sir. Any other questions or comments? Uh Commissioner Bill Petty.

1:45:12 – 1:46:06Speaker 1

I just have a question. Apparently, we've saved quite a bit of money on our uh the um GP1 uh costs for weight loss in the last meeting of the insurance uh committee and like $6.9 million we're not going to have to spend. Can we use any of that money to for capital expenses? Is that possible? I mean, we're going to have some extra money from that, I'm sure. Unless I'm wrong. So again, we have yet to realize those. They do not go into effect till January. If you want uh wish to postpone what of our capital projects that we have for funding to ex to see how that pans out, but at this time I don't have that money, but I can give you a final number of how much exactly savings are. We have not incurred those yet.

1:46:04 – 1:46:18Speaker 1

Okay. But it it it's going to be relatively substantial. It would be in the millions, right? It the projected is. Yes. Okay. I just want to check. All right. Thank you, Commissioner Lawrence.

1:46:15 – 1:46:54Speaker 1

Stay up for a moment. Thank you. Um, so the resolution says up to 32 million or and the both both of these it's doesn't require us to borrow that much. So, let's take the fire engine for example. So, I'm assuming we're not going to have to pay the full amount upfront uh for that since it's not going to be delivered for three years. Would that be correct? So, normally on those large and and Connor can help me with this one, but usually on those large because we it is a specialized um vehicle, we do have to pay we have a contract that we enter that we pay a portion, but we do not fund fully pay for it. Correct.

1:46:53 – 1:47:35Speaker 1

There are also typically discounts if you prepay ahead of time. You can get the lower overall cost to prepaid. So, would our expectation be to pay in full? Is that what you would prefer or because because there's borrowing costs for three years, we're going to have to pay interest on that. So, I mean that you'd have to factor that in. So, okay. So, I guess my point is this is up to and it doesn't necessarily mean if if the savings that we're projecting to generate from some of the some of the changes that we're going to make do materialize, then it's possible we don't need to borrow that much. Correct.

1:47:32 – 1:48:16Speaker 1

That is correct. Um, we are looking at going to market at the end of this month, 1st of November. So, just keep that in mind. Okay. So, would you would you be going to to the for the full amount? Then we would go towards with the not to exceed. Um, obviously that depends on rates we get. Um, how the bids come in. A lot of times we are able to lower that amount. This is just the max that we're looking at. Yeah. So we don't borrow money to to buy a fire truck that's not going to be delivered for three years and then pay for it. We don't sit on that money for three years. Correct. For bond money. We invest that money if it if it is not spent. Yes. I invest that money. And so we will actually be earning interest on whatever is is held as well.

1:48:14 – 1:48:43Speaker 1

Okay. All right. Thank you. Any other questions or comments? I see none. If you're ready to vote, if you're in favor, signify by pressing your yes button. Any opposed or no? Anyone wishing to change their vote, please do so at this time. Commissioner Hayes. Record the vote, please. Mr. Whippby.

1:48:39 – 1:49:24Speaker 1

21 yes, one no. Resolution passes. Resolution 102515, resolution authorizing the issuance, sale, and payment of not to exceed $33,500,000 of general obligation public improvement and school bonds of Williamson County, Tennessee, and providing for the levy of taxes for the payment of debt services on those bonds. Robert motion made by Commissioner Tom Tunnliffe, seconded by Commissioner Steve Smith. Budget committee was 440 against. Explanation, please, Commissioner Morton. Uh again, this for the issuance of the bonds and I think a lot of the discussion we just had actually applied to this bond rather than the one we just voted on. But uh these are the bonds for the things that we have previously approved.

1:49:21 – 1:50:13Speaker 1

Any questions or comments? Seeing none, if you're ready to vote, if you're in favor, signify by pressing your yes button. Any opposed or no? Anyone wishing to change their vote, please do so at this time. Commissioner Y, record the vote, please. Mr. would be 19 yes, three no. Resolution passes. Late filed resolution 102525, resolution accepting a donation from the estate of Cheryl A. Hall and appropriating and amending the 2526 Animal Center budget by $25,000. Revenues to come from donations. Proper motion made by Commissioner Tom Tunnliff and seconded by Commissioner Steve Smith. Public health committee was 340 against. Budget committee was 440 against. Explanation please. Commissioner Sturgeon.

1:50:09 – 1:50:30Speaker 1

Oh, sorry. We received a generous donation from Cheryl Hall from her estate and um it's going to go towards supplies and materials at the animal control center. Any questions or comments? Uh Commissioner Bill Petty,

1:50:28 – 1:51:29Speaker 1

I just want to make a quick comment. I had a the opportunity to go out to the animal control center uh on Friday. We had a great meeting with Andrea. What a what a pro what a facility. It it it's amazing. It it is the state-of-the-art. If you haven't been out there, you need to go out there. Uh what they're doing with the animals and how they operate. U I don't think most of us appreciate what they do uh and and the job that they perform. Just to give you one example, if somebody gets stopped for a DUI in a county and they have their dog in their car, and I guess this happens quite often, that that person can't be taken to jail until that dog or cat is taken is taken to our animal control center and and protected. So, I mean, they do a great service and they have a great organization and they have a great leader and it was just a real pleasure to get out there and see it. I recommend anybody out to go out there and just check it out. It's a wonderful facility.

1:51:27 – 1:51:55Speaker 1

Any other questions or comments? And we also want to thank Miss Hall for this uh very nice donation. The estate. The estate of Mrs. Hall. Uh no questions or comments. If you're ready to vote, if you're in favor, signify by pressing your yes button. Opposed or no. Anyone wishing to change their vote, please do so at this time. Record the vote, please, Mr. Whitby.

1:51:51 – 1:52:23Speaker 1

22 yes, zero no. Resolution passes. Resolution 10257, resolution appropriating and authorizing the qu the county mayor to execute a contract for the administration of a retiree Medicare supplement and prescription drug plan with United Healthcare. Proper motion made by Commissioner Tom Tunnliff and seconded by Commissioner Lisa Hayes. The purchasing and insurance committee was 440 against. Budget committee was 440 against. Explanation please, Commissioner Morton.

1:52:22 – 1:52:40Speaker 1

Oh, yes. purchased an insurance uh sought and reviewed bids and unanimously approved uh the savings here. Um looks like the pay are going to save about 33% and the county will save 1.3 million. So thank y'all for bidding that one out. Commissioner Hayes,

1:52:39 – 1:53:08Speaker 1

I would just like a little explanation as to how we got to where we are with these this plan. I know I did I didn't I missed the last meeting, so I made the one before. I know there was conversations about Ozimpic. There was conversations about changing the plan. I just think for posterity sake, we need to all understand what changes occurred and so we can truly appreciate the 3.5 million in savings.

1:53:05 – 1:53:48Speaker 1

Good evening. Um so the benefits department along with our benefit consultant the jury group um did an RFP and this resolution is for the postretirey coverage and the results of the RFP was awarded to United Healthcare. So this only affects the retirees that have continued after leaving. Um and this outlines the savings of that RFP which will be effective January 1st. And my understanding was that Sigma bought the previous company and then they were selling it back to that company which was not going to necessarily be beneicial. That's what I remember. Originally Sigma um

1:53:49 – 1:54:32Speaker 1

it was a Sigma name on the retirey plan and then it sold to Healthspring, right? And then we took it to RFP since Sigma no longer had that. Right. and and I'm glad to see that we had a little critical thinking because my understanding was Healthspring was not well thought of prior to signifying them. Um so I appreciate that there was effort made to truly do an RFP and look at what was best for our retirees. So I thank you for that and I'm very happy to hear that we had a savings on that. Um and then I guess I think that's all. And then the Ozmpic savings, I think my understanding is that you guys looked critically at that at how many employees and

1:54:30 – 1:55:13Speaker 1

Yes. And that that's separate from this resolution. It's actually a plan change. So January 1st um PNI uh voted to eliminate um weight loss um coverage under the medical plan. So, it's just not the GLP ones, but it's any weight loss medication will not be covered. Now, it will be covered if there is a um medical need, medical necessity. It might be diabetes or heart condition. The provider would do a medical necessity letter through um a Sigma um for it to be covered, but it will not be covered just for a weight loss diagnosis.

1:55:12 – 1:55:42Speaker 1

Thank you for the update. I appreciate it. Any other questions or comments? I see none. So, if you're ready to vote, if you're in favor, signify by pressing your yes button. Any opposed or no? Anyone wishing to change their vote, please do so at this time. Commissioner Williams, Commissioner Lawrence, record the vote, please. Mr. Whitby. 22, yes, zero, no.

1:55:39 – 1:56:16Speaker 1

Resolution passes. Resolution 10258, resolution approving and authorizing the county mayor to execute a dental insurance contract with Sigma Health and Life Insurance Company. Proper motion made by Commissioner Steve Smith, seconded by Commissioner Mary Smith. Purchasing was 341 against, budget was 440 against. Explanation, please, Commissioner Morton. Uh, similar story here. Gina and her department uh bid out and we have uh they are proposing a new uh dental contract for county employees. Uh, Commissioner Hayes.

1:56:13 – 1:56:27Speaker 1

Um, also just want to verify I know during the committee meeting I attended it was there was discussion about increasing the cost share and it looks like it stayed where it was. Can you confirm that?

1:56:28 – 1:57:03Speaker 1

Um, I think what you're referring to doesn't have to do with this resolution, but the PNI committee voted to on the medical plan. Um, currently once you meet your deductible, then your out of pocket is at currently at 10%. You pay 10%, the county picks up 90% of the cost. Effective January that will be an 8020 split. So the employee will pick up 20% until their out of pockets met and the county will pick up the 80%.

1:57:01 – 1:57:46Speaker 1

And what was the reasoning behind increasing the cost share to employees? um just cost savings upfront to the county and the plan. Okay. It just seems like a little slap like here's your raise but here's your increase in coverage. So, but thank you for the update. I appreciate it. Any other questions or comments? I see none. If you're ready to vote, if you're in favor, signify by pressing your yes button. Any opposed or no? Anyone wishing to change their vote, please do so at this time. Record the vote, please. Mr. Whidby. 22. Yes. Zero. No.

1:57:42 – 1:58:19Speaker 1

Resolution passes. Resolution 102516. Resolution of the governing body of Williamson County, Tennessee, supporting an application to participate in the transportation planning grant program for the development of long range transportation planning activities. Proper motion made by Commissioner Tom Tunnliff, seconded by Commissioner Steve Smith. budget committee was 440 against. Explanation please, Commissioner Morton. Uh yes, this is uh showing our commitment to put in 10% towards an application. So this is application only for uh regional help on transportation issues.

1:58:16 – 1:58:38Speaker 1

Any questions or comments? Seeing none, if you're ready to vote, if you're in favor, signify by pressing your yes button. Any opposed or no? Anyone wishing to change their vote, please do so at this time. Record the vote, please, Mr. Whby 22 yes zero no.

1:58:35 – 1:59:16Speaker 1

Resolution passes. Resolution 102517. Resolution authorizing the Williamson County mayor to enter into a memorandum of understanding with the city of Fairview for the participation of eligible individuals in Williamson County's DUI recovery court. Proper motion made by Commissioner Mary Smith, seconded by Commissioner Ricky Jones. Budget committee was 440 against. Explanation please, Commissioner Morton. Yeah, this will allow uh eligible probationers who are convicted in the Fairview City Court to be able to participate in the county's DUI court. Any questions or comments? Commissioner Hayes, I'm on fire.

1:59:12 – 1:59:53Speaker 1

Um is there any cost share that Fairview will share in this or just curious? I tried to do some research and I just couldn't dig it up. I mean, I'm happy they're doing that, don't get me wrong. Hi, Commissioner. Hi. So, um, each, uh, entity will cover their own cost. And the way that the court works, it'll be similar with how the Williamson County probationers, um, pay for their fees. The, um, probationers will plead into the court and a condition of that plea is to pay their fees or to pay them on a schedule. But yeah, the county will not incur more. Awesome. Thank you.

1:59:50 – 2:00:12Speaker 1

Any other questions or comments? Seeing none, if you're ready to vote, if you're in favor, signify by pressing your yes button. Any opposed or no. Anyone wishing to change their vote, please do so at this time. Commissioner Guffy, record the vote, please. Mr. Whby.

2:00:09 – 2:00:46Speaker 1

22 yes. Zero no. Resolution passes. Resolution 102518. Resolution authorizing the Williamson County mayor to execute a non-exclusive use agreement with Goodwill Industries of Middle Tennessee, Inc. to collect usable donated materials. Proper motion made by Commissioner Barb Sturgeon and seconded by Commissioner Greg Sanford. Municipal Solid Waste Board was 440 against. Property Committee was 540 against. Budget committee was 440 against. Explanation, please, Commissioner Morton. Uh, this just allows goodwill to collect usable donated items at our convenience centers.

2:00:43 – 2:01:23Speaker 1

Commissioner Hayes. Um, can anybody speak to this like as to it says here Goodwill as the best responsive proposal. Did we have other people request to be part of that? Give a proposal or is Goodwill the only one that responded? I'm kind of curious. For years, Goodwill has never had any competition. They now have competition. So, I reached out to their competition. I sent out RFPs to both companies. and it's always board looked at them and Goodwill had a real similar proposal to America thrift stores. Okay,

2:01:21 – 2:02:03Speaker 1

that's the competition. The reason Goodwill got it, there's two. One, they get donated items that are way more expensive than what would sell in the store. So, they have an online store you can go for on those. The second one, if your parents pass away and you and your siblings don't want anything in the house or even if you do want stuff in the house, you can call them. You can label which items your brother or your sister wants. They will package that, have it ready for their moving company to come pick up and they will clean the rest of the house out and leave floors swept and mopped. Thank you for the explanation.

2:02:01 – 2:02:29Speaker 1

The reason they got it is that that benefit to the citizens. It's not to us, but it's to the citizens. Thank you. Mhm. Thank you for that. Any other questions or comments? Seeing none, if you're ready to vote, if you're in favor, signify by pressing your yes button. Any opposed or no. Anyone wishing to change their vote, please do so at this time. Record the vote, please. Mr. Whby. 22 yes, zero no.

2:02:26 – 2:03:05Speaker 1

Resolution passes. Resolution 102519, a resolution to amend the rules, regulations, and procedures of the Williamson County Board of Commissioners concerning the attachment of contracts to resolutions. Proper motion made by Commissioner Mary Smith, seconded by Commissioner Greg Sanford. Rules Committee was 340 against. Uh, Commissioner Clifford is not here. Who would be able to speak to this? Uh, Commissioner Ielo, are you able to speak on this one? Member of the rules. Are you Who are the members of rules? Who? Yes. Oh, sorry. Commissioner Morton had to think about it for a second.

2:03:03 – 2:03:27Speaker 1

Uh, some of the contract This is the contracts, correct? Yes. Um, some of the contracts we have are are pretty substantial. Uh, Jeff Whby was explaining to us the the cost savings and not having to print and mail those out. Um, they will be made available online for everyone, but it's it's strictly a cost savings and trying to save there. Commissioner Hayes,

2:03:24 – 2:04:26Speaker 1

yet again, um, My concern with this is I like to look at the contracts in print. I don't care if you double-sided. I don't care if I have to come pick them up. But I don't have a legal printer at home if I want to print it and really look closely at a contract. That is again as a commissioner our responsibility to be critical before we just go, oh yeah, let's vote on that contract. We actually should read it and know what's in it. I think a lot of people don't do that. Not going to name names. Don't even really care. But I think that's accountability and that not those who want to look at it online. Great. Good for you. I don't have time to do that because sometimes I'm going 20 miles an hour, 100 miles an hour. It's nice to have a printed copy. So, I personally think that this is removing some transparency and ease of use. I mean, for somebody who makes $600 before taxes, I think a little bit of copying fee is not a big deal. I honestly don't. So, I'm disappointed to see this and I will vote no. Commissioner Petty.

2:04:23 – 2:04:59Speaker 1

Yeah. Uh the only question I have is um when I first started out here, I was getting a printed copy and then I told called Jeff. I said, you know, this is 50 pounds of paper. I don't need all this. So, I just get it electronic and I'm perfectly happy with that. But I understand what she has to say. And I don't see why why this is an issue. Most of us or a lot of us just get it electronically already. And if somebody wants to get it printed, they can just ask for it and it's it's not that big a deal. So, I I don't even understand why we have this in the first place. Commissioner Williams.

2:04:57 – 2:05:50Speaker 1

Um, yeah, I'm not necessarily against the concept of uh of of of getting a summary. The only thing is I don't know if the the cover page on a contract suffices um a summary. You know, typically when we have contracts, you're going to have a key terms page that has 15 16 different um contractual items listed out on it, so you can look at it at a glance. Uh I would I would like to see that spelled out in this resolution to where it's not just the first page of the contract, but actually a contract summary page that addresses certain key terms that we identify probably through the rules that says, "Hey, these key terms we want to see stated on a summary page." And I I I would vote in support of that, but I'm not exactly sure the right way of making that amendment to this, but I just want to pose that first. Well,

2:05:48 – 2:06:32Speaker 1

I'm seeing Mr. Whity's face, and it's making me think that might be more difficult than just sending you the entire contract if he has to parse out what he believes would be important to you and and recreate the contract. So, then can I make can I make a recommendation then? Can we defer this to next month so that the rules committee could go back and um flush that summary page out and what the key terms to be included are. Is that your motion? That's my motion. Second from Commissioner Sturgeon. So I have a proper motion and a second to defer this to next month. Is that correct, Commissioner Williams? Correct.

2:06:30 – 2:07:14Speaker 1

Any I see a couple questions and comments on the board. Uh question or comment on the amendment. Commissioner Sturgeon. The amendment. Okay. Commissioner Smith on the amendment. Mary Smith. Yeah. I would just suggest to that if we're going to go back and relook at this to possibly have an option for those commissioners that want the printed copy to just let Jeff know that, hey, I would prefer a printed copy because I get mine electronically and he was really gracious to accommodate those of us who want electronically, those of us who want paper. I think in this case we could probably do the same thing. Just make it known what your preference is. Is that does that happen? That's my comment. Does that happen to already be the case, Mr. Whidby, or would that need to be

2:07:12Speaker 1

It is It is the case

2:07:14 – 2:08:24Speaker 1

as far as I have a list of commissioners that have it electronically. Actually, every commissioner gets it electronically because I just go ahead and do that and then it's online. I do have commissioners that want to receive the packet uh on paper, which is which is fine. And it hasn't really been an issue until lately with all of the contracts. I think it was like July I just took as an example. There were over 4,000 and something pages that I printed for for the contracts where the majority of it wasn't anything. And I understand what you're saying, Commissioner. Uh but that's it is an option to answer the question. It is an option and and I would be happy to print them off for somebody that wanted them. But what the purpose when I asked about it was to cut down on the postage that it cost me to send it out, the copies that have to be made and the paper that's done for something that is available online and is available sent to you electronically as well. Would I be right to say this resolution instead of you automatically being opted in to receive the contracts through the mail, uh, you would have to call and opt in, uh, to receive them, but you could still receive them on an individual basis

2:08:22 – 2:08:50Speaker 1

for the comp for the contract. Yes, sir. Okay. Because even Yes, sir. You're exactly right. Because even my opinion is even if we we pass it where you only get the one page, if you say, "Hey, you know, shoot me an email or call me and say, I would like the whole contract." I will gladly put that in the packet. With that explanation, um, is the motion to defer still one that you wish to make?

2:08:48 – 2:09:22Speaker 1

Yeah, correct. I think um like I said I I don't you know in hindsight I don't know why we haven't been doing this in a while but we really do need a contract summary sheet that you know term probably dollar value of the contract what the termination without cause right just a summary of probably about 15 different key terms that you'd want to have at a glance and that way if we don't have the full contract in front of us we at least have it at a glance so we can have a discussion on it. Can you push your

2:09:22 – 2:09:58Speaker 1

no? Um, okay. Commissioner Stanford. Um, so just kind of confused when you made your comment. So we can opt in if we want to opt in and not. Okay. So maybe to Commissioner Williams point, maybe sponsor withdraw this all together and maybe the rules committee come up with their own because this just deals with the printed copy, right? Yes, sir. Do I sponsor? Commissioner Clifford is absent. Defer. So defer it. Let the let the rules committee take it back.

2:10:00 – 2:10:44Speaker 1

Um, okay. Any other questions or comments on the amendment to defer? And it is on the board. Okay. Commissioner Tunnliff, I'm sure Sheriff Hughes will love this. I know that in Brentwood the police officers used to deliver this to the commissioners. I know your sheriffs, your deputies would love to do that for the commissioners to save money, wouldn't they? They're dropping by. I think they're coming by your house anyway, right? They do regularly. Any other questions or comments on the motion to defer? Do you have a question? Mr. Hayes, who's who's going to be the wonderful person that gets to summarize that? Mr. Commissioner Williams. That's

2:10:43 – 2:11:28Speaker 1

I think that's an excellent question, but that will it be legal or will it be Mr. Whidby because I think Jeff is busy enough. Commissioner Smith, Mary Smith department and see if there's an AI component that would summarize the contracts for you. I may or may not had to do that before. Any other questions or comments on the motion to defer? Seeing none, I believe it's loaded. So, if you are in favor of the motion to defer, press your yes button. If you're opposed or no, anyone wishing to change their vote, please do so at this time. Record the vote, please. Mr. Whitby.

2:11:26 – 2:12:03Speaker 1

21 yes, one no. Always one. Resolution passes. We're now We don't have to defer. It's deferred. So, we don't go on that. Commissioner West, you usually defer it to a certain date. We should next month. No rules committee will meet again to discuss it. Okay. Now we're on to resolution 102520, resolution amending the rules, regulations, and procedures of the Williamson County Board of Commissioners concerning the consent agenda found under rule number three. Proper motion made by

2:12:04 – 2:12:49Speaker 1

Commissioner David O'Neal. Seconded by Commissioner Barb Sturgeon. Uh budget or sorry rules committee was 340 against. Explanation please. Commissioner Ielo or I'm sorry, Commissioner Torres. Feels sorry. Um I think this is the I just want to make sure this is the one that I'm going to withdraw. Is that okay? I think that's what you discussed earlier. Okay. Yeah. So, so the intent behind it and the reason for the withdrawal is uh the rules committee when they talked through it, um it was going to actually create more work for the chair and the intent of trying to save time was going to be undone by the extra work that the chair was going to have to do. So, that's why I'm withdrawing it.

2:12:46 – 2:13:07Speaker 1

Well, he's not the sponsor. Morton has to withdraw. I'm being told that because Morton signed it, Morton would have to be the one to withdraw. Do you concur, Mr. Morton, I would also like to withdraw. Okay. All right. So, resolution 102520 has been withdrawn.

2:13:04 – 2:13:43Speaker 1

Resolution 102521, a resolution to amend the rules, regulations, and procedures of the Williamson County Board of Commissioners concerning the recording and archiving of all Williamson County Committee meetings and to provide for public access to such recordings. Proper motion was on my screen, but I lost it. Commissioner Greg Sanford made the motion, seconded by Commissioner Sean Ielo. Uh the rules committee was 340 against. Before we go to questions and comments, I think the mayor did want to speak to this one uh to give us some information that might help us make our vote.

2:13:44 – 2:14:42Speaker 1

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. As many of you know, this meeting room is also being used by the city of Franklin for the next um about two years until they get their new city hall uh finished and built. So, in the event that you vote in the affirmative of having these meetings or committee meetings taped and recorded, there will be some cost. We have not dug into those to I think um Creed who does channel 3 mailed out some information to you but he did not include what it would cost for us to do the executive the big room for us to do what is being asked. Not a bad thing to do but we can't use this meeting because we're committed to Franklin for them to use it. Um, so I would ask if whoever the who I don't know who made the motion, I mean, who did the resolution?

2:14:40 – 2:15:08Speaker 1

Uh, Commissioner Petty and Commissioner Ielo, if they would at least send it back and let us put some cost on it for the other room if you decide to do that. Uh, and then and look at that because we'll have to order equipment, mics, and things like that for that full room in there. Can the chair make a motion?

2:15:09 – 2:16:23Speaker 1

All right. Any questions or comments or anybody that wants to make a motion to possibly defer until we uh can get some more information on the cost of this particular resolution? I have a question or comment from Commissioner Sturgeon. Yeah, I just want to to make a comment that um right now the a lot of the committee meetings are being recorded already by individual commissioners on their phones and um then AI is being used to turn it into um words, printed words and I I you know there has been some meetings in the past where different people remembered them differently. And I was very grateful that somebody had actually recorded the meeting because it clarified what had actually happened. So I don't I mean I'm kind of anxious to get this done and um can we just can we continue doing that and I don't think there's any cost to that at all. A phone and AI seems to be the cheapest route. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it's not a high enough quality. I don't know

2:16:23 – 2:17:10Speaker 1

to answer your question. Absolutely we can do that. But the the resolution was a little bit different than what you're asking for. I think the reason the resolution was presented to this body was some of the the sounds weren't as clear as they needed to be. The transmissions talking moving people around. If all of you have been in there, we have to go to the podium rather than you can sit at your seat and talk. But absolutely, the way we're doing it can continue on with that as we investigate this if you want to take this down to Pike, but it'll take us some time to order equipment. This is not off the shelf

2:17:07 – 2:17:51Speaker 1

and we'll have to order it, put it in. How long do you think that would take, Mr.? I I don't know. We struggled here with these for well over a year just trying to get them tuned up and get them right. And we still have issues here. So, but that's not to say what we're doing. We're stopping. We're just saying you we can't do it in here. And I hate to spend I You remember what the equipment Do you remember what this equipment cost? Well over 100,000. What about the executive? I mean, a couple years Franklin's going to be gone. We'll be back in here. So, we have to think about So, you're saying we should hold our subcommittee meetings in here?

2:17:49 – 2:18:13Speaker 1

We can't hold them in here, right? But you're saying once Franklin's out. Yeah. Once Franklin's out, if you want to have them in here, you certainly can. It's too long. But in the meantime, for the next couple of years, only thing I've got to offer is down the hall. Okay. Go next. Commissioner Richards.

2:18:11 – 2:19:06Speaker 1

Yeah. I just wanted he's he's back in that little mysterious room back there. Creed Henderson. I just wanted to say thank you to him for his very enthusiastic and helpful attitude about this. It's it's refreshing and I for one if we can find a way to get he him and his team a bonus. I I would like to do that. I would also like to thank um Commissioner Petty and Commissioner Ielo. I think this is is a great idea and we can see that there's a lot of citizens that are um I think it was shared with us by Miss Giddens the the YouTube hit numbers over the the period of time that we've been recording the budget meeting. There's been 20 20 if I read that correctly 2500 people who've viewed the streams of different budget meetings. So clearly there's people watching this stuff. Sometimes I wonder why but thank you

2:19:04 – 2:19:19Speaker 1

commissioner Ielo. So, I think we skipped the uh explanation of this resolution. Um, so Oh, sorry. That's fine. You were trying to give me the other ones, but I'll take this one now. Explanation, please, Commissioner. I am.

2:19:17 – 2:20:57Speaker 1

So, you know, this resolution is is really to serve a twofold purpose. One, it's to provide public access and recording and transparency on committee meetings. Um, but the other is also to provide that same access to commissioners who might not be able to attend committee meetings that have extensive explanations on things like the insurance. that we had questions about tonight. Um, so for those commissioners that are concerned about perhaps a length of meetings, a lot of questions that are asked are as also asked in committee meetings and commissioners of inquiring minds might find their answers there um, prior to um, speaking here and those discussions would then be in public because they would be recorded in part of the the uh, the record that's maintained by the county. Um, so this is the first that I've I've heard about the increased cost for this. We had a pretty good discussion in the committee meeting for rules about this. Um I would simply state that this resolution provides for a intent to have these things be recorded and would make the rule effective not immediately but January 1, 2026. I anticipate that if there is a funding mechanism that needs to accomplish this, a subsequent resolution could be submitted either uh in budget or other property committee that would affectuate this intent. And I think we'd have timing to do that prior to the January 1st meeting. Um, so I would suggest if the commission has an appetite for these kinds of recordings and these kinds of things moving forward, vote for it today on that and then have a resolution be brought forth regarding budgeting for what needs might be anticipated to accomplish this. Um, so I'd suggest take a stairstep approach.

2:20:55 – 2:21:29Speaker 1

The resolution for appropriating money for that would have to be done in November. is you don't have a December meeting if you were going to meet the January 1 effective date. That's correct. And I I think this is one of those things that really shouldn't come as a surprise. Commissioners have been talking about this off and on for a couple years now. Um I know the public wants it, commissioners want it. Um it might take a little bit of hustle to get us there in January, but I think now's the time. Commissioner Hayes

2:21:27 – 2:21:49Speaker 1

in full support of this. I think we need to do whatever we have to to be transparent to our our taxpayers and I'm asked about this often. So they love the fact the budget meetings are recorded. They feel like they're part of the process. So I think this is a great step forward. Thank you guys for bringing this resolution forward. Commissioner Mary Smith.

2:21:47 – 2:22:29Speaker 1

Yeah. I was just curious, was there a cost to getting the executive conference room set up so we could actually start recording the budget committee meetings? Because I guess I assumed with this one, we'd use the same mechanism, the same equipment to do any other the committees. So, I guess I'm a little bit confused as to why there's additional cost unless we're trying to outfit like another room. Um, but I would I would fully support doing the full recording because I do think the AI while it's been it's been helpful. It's not always been accurate and there a lot of times there's context missing. So, I would be in full support of doing this, but I was just curious as to why the additional cost.

2:22:27 – 2:22:49Speaker 1

I believe this one spells out that the current method of recording the budget committee is not adequate and that this would, and someone can correct me if I'm wrong, put microphones at each chair. Uh, is that right or wrong? That's incorrect. I'll go now to Commissioner Petty.

2:22:47 – 2:24:46Speaker 1

Thank you. Um, I talked to Creed about this and we discussed it and he has not been completely happy with the recording that goes on in the budget committee u because we do need extra microphones in there to make that work. But it does it's adequate and we talked about that. Uh, I I use it every every week or or every time there's a budget committee meeting and I use a AI program that pulls off and it gives us pretty accurate summary of what went what went on. Uh, and we and we so we Creed and I talked about that. As far as using this room is concerned, uh, the uh, Franklin only uses it on Tuesdays and Thursdays. Uh, we they never use it on a Monday. uh they don't and they seldom use it on a Thursday but they use usually normally their Bulma meeting is is they're on Tuesdays so there's no conflict there if we have two places where we can do meetings and and and we get a reliable recording from and we are getting a reliable recording uh in the budget meeting it could be better and I would and create and I talked about that eventually as we go along it would be nice to make it better but it's it's adequate now it works and this this room here works just fine. So, uh we could have two uh committee meetings on a Monday night, let's say for example, uh where we could use the executive conference room and we could use the auditorium at the same time. So, uh and Creed has been very very gracious and he said, you know, the guys that work for me, they do football games, they do uh interviews that their their their schedule is all over the place. He said, I we can reschedule these people. it's not a problem. So my thought is okay u to get back to Barb Sturgeon's point um when we have a recording we know what's been said and people can go back and

2:24:44 – 2:25:26Speaker 1

review it if they want to and as Sean pointed out there are people that can't make it to a meeting and it would be nice to see what was said, how it was said, who said it, that sort of thing. And I think that's important and then we have a record. we have a permanent record and we can go back later maybe in a year or two or six months or whatever it is say yeah this is what somebody somebody said so I I think that uh right now I don't see any additional costs I do see additional costs down the road that we can u can put in at some point but at as it is now it would work

2:25:24 – 2:26:09Speaker 1

and I'm reminded that this room is also used for planning commission meetings and school board meetings and other uh yeah items that wouldn't always be exactly but typically if I looked at the calendar if you look at the calendar there's not a lot of conflict. Commissioner Iel uh just to answer the chair's question about whether this prescribed a specific method or there was a comment about whether budget recording was inadequate. This resolution does not address that. It simply requires the recording and and hosting and transmission of it. um the mechanisms for doing that is either left to staff or if there's a funding mechanism that needs to have for a different recording mechanisms that's that would be a separate resolution.

2:26:06 – 2:26:51Speaker 1

Okay, good point. Any other questions or comments concerning this resolution? Commissioner Lawrence. Yeah, I guess my question will be to the mayor. So you're you're saying that it might take a while to get a number on this to to to get the adequate equipment. I I I think getting the number is not a problem. Okay. I think getting the equipment in 60 days as commissioner has said by January 1st. I'm not going to say it's impossible, but I doubt they have these the kind of equipment if you want to staff if you want to put the equipment in the room where we're having the committee meetings.

2:26:47 – 2:27:30Speaker 1

Okay. But we So, what we have now is is adequate, but we can get better and maybe we'll have it in January, but it might take a little bit longer than that. So, I guess that's what I hear the mayor say. Any other questions or comments? Seeing none, if you're ready to vote, if you're in favor, signify by pressing your yes button. Any opposed or no. Anyone wishing to change their vote, please do so at this time. Commissioner Herbert, Commissioner Toncliffe, are they? No. No deferral. Nobody made a motion to defer. Uh, Commissioner Herbert,

2:27:28 – 2:27:51Speaker 1

No, it's dead. Uh, you want a VO voice vote? Yes. Yes. Mr. Whby, if you'll record Yes, sir. the vote. And uh we have Commissioner Herbert is a vote voice. Yes. All right. We have 20 yes, one no, one abstain.

2:27:47 – 2:28:24Speaker 1

Resolution passes. Resolution 102522 resolution to surplus and approve the conveyance of various law enforcement related equipment to Hickman County, Tennessee, and authorizing the Williamson County mayor to execute all documentation needed to complete the conveyance. Proper motion made by Commissioner Steve Smith. Seconded by Commissioner Greg Sanford. Law enforcement was 340 against. Property committee was 540 against. Budget committee was 440 against. Explanation please. Commissioner Tunnliff. Apologize. I'm not on that resolution. Give me one second. That's the one helping.

2:28:22 – 2:29:04Speaker 1

I got it right here. Got it right here. Uh yeah, this is equipment for Hickman County for the purpose in their community of helping them out. Any questions or comments? Seeing none, if you're ready to vote, if you're in favor, signify by pressing your yes button. Any opposed or no? Anyone wishing to change their vote, please do so at this time. Commissioner Toncliffe, is yours not working? Okay. And Commissioner Herbert for a voice vote. Herbert's a yes. Record the vote, please, Mr. Whby. Yes. Zero. No.

2:29:02 – 2:29:46Speaker 1

Resolution passes. And late filed resolution 102524. Resolution accepting the donation of a Nevco LED. Did I skip one? Oh, sorry. I was trying to move a little faster than I should. Resolution 102523. Resolution accepting the generous donation of Motorola repeaters from Rutherford County on behalf of the Williamson County Office of Public Safety. Proper motion made by Commissioner Greg Sanford and seconded by Commissioner Guy Carden. The property committee was 540 against. Law enforcement was 340 against. Budget committee was 440 against. Explanation please, Commissioner Tunnliff.

2:29:44 – 2:30:15Speaker 1

Yeah, these are repeaters that uh public safety has agreed to use for day-to-day operations. Any questions or comments? Seeing none, if you're ready to vote, if you're in favor, signify by pressing your yes button. Any opposed or no. Anyone wishing to change their vote, please do so at this time. Commissioner Herbert, for a voice. Herbert's a yes. Record the vote, please. Mr. Whidby. 22 yes. Zero no.

2:30:13 – 2:31:13Speaker 1

Resolution passes. Late filed resolution 102524, resolution accepting the donation of a Nevco LED aquatic video time board to be installed at the indoor sports complex. Proper motion made by Commissioner Barb Sturgeon, seconded by Commissioner Greg Sanford. Uh, no committee was able to meet. Parks and Rec did not have a quorum. Explanation, please. Commissioner Paul Webb. Uh you can see through this resolution the uh XL Aquatics has worked with Toyota of Cool Springs to have this uh indoor sports arena to have the LED aquatic video timer located in the indoor sports complex. Any questions or comments? Seeing none, if you're ready to vote, if you're in favor, signify by pressing your yes button. Any opposed or no? Anyone wishing to change their vote, please do so at this time. Commissioner Hester working Hester's not up. Okay, there we go.

2:31:12 – 2:31:37Speaker 1

Herbert's a yes. Herbert's a yes. Record the vote, please. Mr. Whitby. 22 yes. Zero no. Resolution passes. As always, we want to thank the sheriff's deputies for being here uh as well as the sheriff and all department heads for staying with us so late. Are there any other items to come before this board? If not, I'll entertain a motion to adjurnn. We are adjourned. [Applause]

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