Village Board - Regular Meeting

Good evening everyone. Welcome to the regular meeting for the board on Tuesday, January 20th of 2026. If you please rise, we'll say the pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. And tonight we have Reverend Paul Cook from the Presbyterian Church to do the invocation.

Thank you. Good evening. Let us pray together. Oh Lord, our governor, your glory shines throughout the world. We commend to this community or we commend this community to your merciful care that we may live securely in peace and may be guided by your providence. Give all in authority the wisdom and strength to know your will and to do it. Help them to remember that they are called to serve the people as lovers of truth and justice. Amen. Thank you. Roll call, please. Barry,

yes. Budro here. Bon here. Crockett here. Yesi here. Zimbleman with present. We have five and the mayor here. Are there any additions or deletions to the reading of the agenda? Seeing none, are are there any changes, corrections, or a motion to approve the minutes? I'll make that motion. I'll second it. All in favor? I

abstain. Public participation. The first speaker tonight is Bob Foresight. And as a reminder, each person is allowed three minutes to speak. Please address the chair and the trustees, but you can't expect us to answer your questions. We are listening. [cough] I wasn't able to make the committee meeting this week, but I did listen to it. Uh I was very disappointed when I heard that people don't want to come here to Mantino because of the residents and what goes on at the meetings. But the people that come here that talk at these meetings love this town. And we want a small town. But we love this town. That's why we come here because we're very concerned on what's going on because questions were never answered in the beginning and we're finally starting to get some answers. But you know what? There's a there's this is part of the transcript and I find just very unprofessional. I don't know why this goes back to I do know that they pay more than the school and I can tell you that's and I live here. Well, I'll tell you I don't care what you make. I don't care if this if the plant pays more, but if you're not happy at the school, go get a new job.

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The next speaker is Tim Finnegan. Oh, good evening everyone. My first question is does does Mantino have a contract with Goan? I was just curious because if they don't, well then everything is just under the table. But now that go uh green charter has been disbanded and it's no longer going to be in effect does Mantino now take on the manufacturing that was going to go on in green charter if so who approved it because it wasn't in the original bargain for Mantino to be producing the cases for the batteries they were just supposed to be assembly completed. So now we're going into another phase. And what does it entail cuz we don't really know anything about the original. [clears throat] We really need to get real. village members complaining that it is the resident's fault there is no new businesses in Mantino because of the fact that while we come here and complain about what we don't know the board and the people that are involved here that are from the last administration they have kept this all covert there is no transparency there's my [clears throat] response This prior administration covertly brought this atrocity to Mantino. [clears throat] No disclosure, no environmental study,

no disclosure of toxic chemicals, no disclosure of environmental pollution of air, farm, land, water, and most importantly, the impact on the physical condition of the residents. Yes, maybe business is concerned about what is being said. In essence, we're doing the we're doing businesses a job. We're doing them a favor by disclosing this to them rather than them coming here investing a lot of money to do a startup business and then a month later, a year later, something happens in that plant and there's a fire and then they're going to be told, "Well, there's going to be a mandatory evacuation for a month, for two months." What happens to that business then? It's a damn shame that nobody can tell what's going on. Nobody wants to disclose anything. And then the last meeting it was brought up that well yeah everything is in compliance now. Yeah, that 70,000galon tank is approved but we don't want to fill it because it's cold. So what happens when it gets cold? Do you drain the tank? And then what if there's a fire then? I guess the saying could go that not my circus, not my monkeys, but we know the clowns. Thank you. [applause] Thank you. Our next speaker is Ann Gates. Good evening. Last time I was here, I had my Christmas wish list.

I took this um what do you want to call this home and did a lot of research, spent hours and hours and hours researching. And um bottom line, this really didn't have any conclusive information. What it does contain is something that the Chinese Communist Party is very good at and it's called neuro linguistic programming. I encourage you to look it up because it's something that they have propagated and that is what this is filled with. A lithium battery is a lithium battery is a lithium battery. Whether you add magnesium with it or phosphate or phosphorus, they're dangerous. They still burn at the same rate. It might take a little bit more temperature to get the the L the LIF battery to the X state but it does happen. Doesn't need oxygen from water to uh propagate. It's self- consuming because of its molecular structure. Check it out with any good chemist. Uh the other thing I was interested in and I really don't understand this. We had asked what was being stored in the shipping containers that are there as well as the pretty blue wrapped containers that are there and we were told we can't answer because we're in litigation. So I went to the people that I know to go to and I asked the judge, "What about this? Can't they tell us?" And he and his response was, "Is it a criminal suit or is it a civil suit?" I said, "It's a civil suit." And his response was, and this is from the judge. No reason they can't answer other than they don't want you to know. And then I

started thinking about the first time we were in court with Judge Pendergas and she had a very strong objection not to the increase of truck truck traffic but an increase in the dangerous chemicals that would be brought into the town. So could it be that what's being stored over there falls in line what with what she is objecting to and that's why they don't want to have any disclosure. And as far as the Morris fire, I thought that was really interesting having spent months on that fire. The Morris fire was not old batteries. There were old batteries, but there were new batteries and there were solar panels. And it was a Chinese-owned company that owned that was using the facility. And the fire department unfortunately did get sued because [music] of not knowing what they had kept secret. And one thing I do want to ask you, um, the town was gifted a vehicle from Rivian. Uh, three weeks ago, there was a recall on those vehicles. They said they would notify the people that received them sometime in February. So, I would encourage you to go on a website if they have one where you can find that information and make sure that the vehicle that the town was gifted with no strings attached to make sure that it's safe for our alos to be driving around in because our law our law enforcement people are very key. And thank you. I so appreciate that you have them come. We know who they are. We recognize them. We know the phenomenal job they're doing. So, I really appreciate I love that

change. Thank you so much and thank you for serving. Appreciate it. Thank you, Ann. [applause]

Our next speaker is Francine Fatima. Good evening in this new year. And it was a beautiful day today, wasn't it? Well, there's going to be something about the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States. that goes by the acronym CPHAS. I'm just going to say a few words regarding that. The chairman of that committee, which seems to be quite an important one, especially regarding foreign investment, Scott Bessant. He's our Secretary of the Treasury and quite a bright man on President Trump's cabinet. So this issue regarding CPHAS on our agenda tonight is a request for a vote on a full CPHAS review regarding Gan. By this vote, then the board members seated here would be on record holding Gan accountable for a full financial vetting process with the US Department of the Treasury. Sounds like a good idea. We'll see what happens later today. Thank you.

Thank you. [applause]

Our next speaker is Sandra Chis. for two weeks. What do she's not Hello everyone. Um, I know that that CIAS has already been discussed, but I just say I I think that there's been enough evidence to show that Goan doesn't comply with their contractual or legal obligations. It took over two years and threats from the fire chief and this board for them to actually comply with their safety obligations. And now suddenly they are. On February 4th, we'll see what games they're playing with the discovery compliance because I hear there's been a few of those. Clearly Gan attempts to avoid its obligations which is why we need to compel it to submit the long form Cphus. We need to demand it. Obviously the long form CIFA filing is long overdue. It should have been done two years ago. But we all know that the delay is not because of this mayor. It's time that go start complying with our laws with our compliant with our ordinances and with our rules. Thank you.

Thank you. [applause] The next speaker is Andrew Wheeler.

All right. Well, good evening everybody. I I hope you're having a [clears throat] a great evening and and keeping warm. The uh tonight I wanted to first update you all on a few items and hopefully bring some clarity to what Cphus is, does and under what authority. Uh for that reason, I've asked one of a small handful of experts in this field, gentleman by the name of David Patinsky, who's right over here. He's now with Morgan Lewis in DC. Uh but more importantly, he's the former head of the office that managed Cphus in Trump 1's Department of Justice. Uh he currently is handling part of our business in DC for full disclosure, and I found his acumen is only eclipsed by his ethics, which he's bound to. Uh, I provided a brief to the village and to the media to help provide clarity for your discussion as well. Um, finally, in response to questions, the containers in our yard are either empty, full of production equipment, production equipment for our phase 2 cell production equipment uh, buildout, which was part of the permits at the very beginning, and it was known we were producing cells there, or produce batteries charged to 30%, which are held in monitor under all applicable fire codes. You can check with the fire department on that. Uh now that our phase one permit is closed out, we're moving toward hiring the next thousand or so employees to run and maintain those lines after installation. In addition, productive monthly meetings with all stakeholders and the rep representatives are underway and they proved uh very fruitful to start with. So I I appreciate your participation in that. Um I have received no questions um submitted to the website yet. uh one that I wrote all the FAQs and don't really understand what that was about. But um when you feel uh the the assertion there's some kind of a mind control aspect there, but when you feel the time is right, David is here to engage with the board uh in the discussion. So I appreciate that. And also goillinois.com/faq.

Uh send us your questions. We'll get them answered and point you into the right direction with thirdparty validation to any anything that you're looking for. Um well if it's a question that is instead of an accusation. Thanks so much. Um David Platinsky would you like to speak now?

Yeah [clears throat and snorts] sure. Thank you. Good evening and thanks for having me this evening. Um so I'm outside council to Gan as Andy mentioned I've been advising them for several years on a variety of federal regulatory and national security issues um including with respect to CPHAS. Um and so today I was sharing some thoughts with the company about CPHAS based on uh this proceeding tonight. Um and Goian thought it would be helpful if I shared some thoughts um with the chair and the trustees as well. Um so I'm happy to do that. I'll try to do that in 3 minutes. Uh but of course if you have questions either this evening or afterwards happy to answer those questions and and try to be a resource. Um I'm not here to advocate for any particular course of action. Um you know defer to the trustees and the chair um on what they think is appropriate. Um but I will share some data points on CPHAS. Um and I'll touch just briefly on both the jurisdiction of CPHAS and also the process for CPHAS. Um starting with process, you know, when a client comes to me with a potential transaction, the first question is whether CPHAS has jurisdiction. If it does, then you look to whether CPHAS filing is either mandatory or voluntary. If it's mandatory, you make the filing. There's no two ways about it. If it's voluntary, then you've got a a judgment call to make. And typically that judgment is going to be informed by whether you think CPHAS would have an interest in the transaction because it poses potential national security risk. Um if you think there's no potential risk um and it's a voluntary filing, you don't need to file. Um but you do that to some extent at your own risk because CPHAS can seconduess you if it disagrees. Um CPHAS has something called the non-notified program um which is very active. They use both public resources and non-public government resources um including law enforcement and intelligence resources to go out and look for any transactions um that may fall within their jurisdiction that are not notified to CPHAS. Um and if they identify such such a transaction, they'll reach out to the parties to the transaction. And if CPHAS determines a that they've got jurisdiction and b that they think there's a potential national security risk, they can pull in the

transaction for a full review um even after the transaction has closed. Um and they can also act based on referrals um from members of the public, from government officials, um you know, what have you. Um all this depends on whether the committee has underlying jurisdiction in the first place. Um and that's the second thing I I wanted to touch on is what are the bases for jurisdiction. Um there's two basic types of scenarios that give rise to jurisdiction. The first is something called a covered transaction and that's typically a foreign person makes an investment either a control investment um in a US business um or for certain um especially sensitive businesses it can be even a non-control investment that have certain um investor rights um and in the case of a covered transaction that can create safest jurisdiction. Um one thing just to emphasize for you is that only exists when you buy a pre-existing US business. So think of in the context of like mergers and acquisitions when a foreign person comes in and either buys or invests in US company um where jurisdiction does not exist is over what's called a green field investment which is when a foreign person comes in um and establishes a new business that didn't previously exist. Um in that case just doesn't have jurisdiction um and that's a very deliberate policy choice by Congress. Um, Congress knows that CPHAS doesn't have green field jurisdiction. Um, and at least thus far when it's amend to the CPHIA statute, Congress has chosen not to give CPHAS jurisdiction over that type of green field investment. Um, the second type of CPHAS jurisdiction um is over what's called a covered real estate transaction, which is when a foreign person engages in certain real estate transactions where the real estate is located in proximity to either a military or other sensitive government facility. um there's a list of those facilities that CPHAS puts out in its regulations and depending on how sensitive the the facility is, you'll trigger jurisdiction if you're either um 100 miles away or for especially sensitive facilities um even just one mile away. Um and so based

on everything that Goan is aware of um it hasn't acquired or invested in US businesses. everything that's done has been a green field. Um, and it's not within proximity of any um, military or other installation on that list that CPHAS maintains. Um, so to our knowledge, CPHAS, you know, simply lacks jurisdiction um, over anything the company is doing. But certainly if CPHAS were to disagree if CPHAS were to identify any transaction it could through that non-notified process I mentioned um reach out to the company ask for information um and if CPHAS were to determine that there was jurisdiction and potential national security risk um CPHAS has full authority to pull in any such transaction for review um so I'll stop there but again happy to answer any questions uh that the chair or or the trustees may have either now or or later.

Thank you. Thanks. The next speaker is George Riker.

So when I moved to Mantino 30 years ago, I like the open farmland. That's why I moved here. And unfortunately, our governor stuck this stupid ghost plant right in the middle of our town. He couldn't put it somewhere else. He put it here because he doesn't give a rat's ass about Can County. He does not care about what he's doing down here. Let him put it up by him. If he wants it that bad, he didn't have to destroy our county is what he did. George, stay calm. Okay. Well, I can't. That's my German blood. And also, Mr. Crockett or excuse me, Lorac, you hit a nerve with me the other day. Please address the chair.

Okay. You hit a nerve with me the other day when you said that you talked to a builder and they felt it was the concerned citizens of Mantino's fault that the town is not growing. That That's just a copout. You're the village planner. That's your job to bring industry to the town besides what you brought us over there. That was horrible. I'm sorry. I mean, I was under the impression we could have had a John Deere plant over there. Why didn't we go with that? Why did we go with this? You know, I don't get it. And also, I don't know how people feel about it, but when you look out your windows next year and you see wind turbines east of town here and all kinds of solar panels going in, how you going to feel about looking out at that? You think people are going to want to move here and look at wind turbines and solar panels? I wouldn't, you know. So, thank you.

Thank you, George. [applause] All right, that was the final speaker tonight. So, I'm going to move on. Reports of public officials. Um, I have a presentation tonight and I would like to ask Don Leer to come to the microphone because he wrote me the most awesome letter. He is a minister, an ordained minister, and he asked if he could help me of service by being our village chaplain. Don, can you tell us a little bit about yourself?

Very little. Uh, no. Um, I'm uh semi-retired. I work part-time right now for a safety company in the transportation business. But uh my background is is that uh in 1981 I graduated from Moody Bible Institute in Chicago with a pastoral training emphasis and um been in several churches as a youth pastor. I was a missionary for youth for Christ and um have been a board in our church in leadership for many years. Um when I we came here, moved out here a year ago, uh it just seemed like I started doing some research and found that we do have chap chaplain and wasn't sure what they were doing and um still not sure what they were doing and um started dreaming some and talked to the mayor about some of my dreams and it would be to what if we have this it's very uncommon for villages to have chaplain, police departments or fire departments and hospitals. Yes. And some businesses, yes. But for the village itself to have chaplain, um the only one I can find is Planefield has some. Well, I would like to announce that um with the help of the administrator, I did find some paperwork and our ordinance was made in 1984 and I don't know if we've had a village chaplain for every year since then, but there have been village chaplain here,

right?

The most recent ones are retired and I have contacted one of them to come in and help with the invocations and he's busy traveling and really doesn't have time for that anymore. So tonight, um, here is the job of of the village chaplain. I'm going going to explain this and I'm going to ask for a motion. The village chaplain shall be at the disposal of the president of the board of trustees, the police, and any other department head that requests his services. He shall provide comfort and counseling to any resident of the village at the request of the president of the board of trustees. So that basically sums up your job. And what I'd like to do now is ask for a motion to appoint Don Leer, that's Les Her, to be our village chaplain.

So moved. I'll make Wait a minute. By Peggy, seconded by Joel. Okay. Do we need to take a roll call on this? Okay. Roll call, please. Vaughn, yes. Gi, yes. Barry, yes. Yes. Okay. Yes. Thank you. Yes. Thank you. So, I'm going to give you one of these papers if you want to come up. These are your duties. Be on call

and the pay is great. [applause] I don't have any proclamations or requests, but I do have a couple of announcements. And one of them is about our own Maddie Gesky, daughter of Joel, are one of our trustees. She had a big night last Thursday, January 15th, at Wilmington. She hit 1,040 points at the basketball game to top the school record that was made in 1990 by Jodie Miller. So, that was [applause] a big night. [applause] And Joel tells me she's also going to be setting a record soon for free throws.

No, she's going to break the thousand rebound mark here. Rebound mark. I think probably within the next couple days. And the best news of all of this is she's only a junior in high school. Oh. So, she has another whole year ahead of her. So, congratulations to Maddie. We're very proud of her. Joel, you must be coaching her along the way somehow. So, thank you very much for um being such a good dad and raising a daughter who's very

Thank you. All right. Then another thing I wanted to talk about, and this all came out of the newspaper, so I don't I know everybody doesn't get the paper, but it's kind of important to find out what's going on in the world. Mantino High School and Bishop McNamera score a slam dunk. The schools play for second straight year. This year they had a safe harbor night and they played basketball to benefit Harbor House. And I don't know how much money was made. I do know they had a 50/50 raffle and both halves eventually going to the organization after the winner Zarius West Jr. the son of Mantino freshman coach Zarius West who is also a sergeant in our police force announced that he was giving his winnings back. So, all around a lot of good things. [applause] There's a nice picture in the paper of some of the players from each school getting together to do this. What a wonderful thing to do to help Harbor House. And congratulations to everybody, especially those who are going to benefit from this because Harbor House provides 24-hour hotline, counseling, emergency services, emergency services, and advocacy for domestic violence victims and their children. And they're almost entirely donationrun. According to the person who was interviewed for this article, our community comes through with finances, but they also help with our clients as far as clothing, toiletries, even as much as new furniture for their new homes. So, at this game, I I was told people were were asked to bring items to donate and they did. They came through. So, the whole community came through from Bishop McNamera and Mantino High School. Congratulations to everybody involved in that. [applause] The only thing I was going to say tonight is about Cphus and it's because

I've been approached by different people in the community and as most of you know after hearing everything tonight is the committee on foreign investment in the United States. So businesses who willingly file the paperwork make us feel more at at peace like we don't have to be so afraid. So, I wanted to bring this up and ask the trustees if they would consider or one of you would kindly do a slam dunk for us and make the motion that we would ask Goan to go ahead and fill out the paperwork. There's not going to be anything to worry about because you're telling us that everything's in in alignment. So, let's just do it and get it done. I'll make a motion.

Motion by by Barry, seconded by Von. Can we discuss this a little bit first?

Sure. Go ahead. So obviously when I saw this on the agenda I did some research too uh before any of this kind of stuff uh into it uh was it kind of how it all works and stuff and it was well explained there uh to I do know that uh sephus was requested at the Michigan go and was shut down immediately as it didn't have the jurisdiction uh was where it went. So I don't I hate to say I really don't see a purpose of this since we there's no jurisdiction done at this point by Cphus for this. Uh I would say again as he mentioned I never heard of this like the green field. So maybe there's a a different avenue those could approach that wants to do this but Cphus does not seem to be the the route to go about the drugs. a question that I have with it and Joe I don't know if you can answer this now or if we have to go to executive session we have litigation if we because part of my thoughts on this I know that there's been requests for Cphus forever for for for our residents and the way that I look at it personally is if they don't belong here get them out I kind of like I did with the audit I'm not necessarily opposed to asking asking for CEUS, but where we're at now with litigation, if we vote in favor of this, do we hurt or or do we put ourselves in any sort of situation with our pending litigation that and I don't know if you can give us that answer here and open or if we need to go to executive session for you to give us that answer.

So, I'll try to put it. I think that um as Trusty Budro said the one in Michigan there there was a request or they found no jurisdiction. Um I know from discovery that a number of concerned citizens of Mantino have put in um requests with the agency to have this done, a non-notified uh transaction and nothing has come of it. I know that Senator Molinar uh number of other senators and of course then former now former Senator Mark Rubio who is the current Secretary of State under Senator Trump also sent in a letter to the Secretary of Treasury to get uh CPHAS done on Gan. Uh none of that has come to pass.

But I'm Joel Gy. You're Joel Guski. I understand that. I think that um it if if you're asking me one, I don't see the purpose in it. Um from a pure legal standpoint and you know, as your attorney, I I see no purpose in it at all at this point. Um and I don't think it's going to amount to anything. But it's not illegal for us to vote. It's not going to hurt the case. Well, it doesn't nothing. Just us sitting here talking about it doesn't help the case. I think it would make people feel more at peace to think that we're safe.

And I also think that we need to know this is not a security risk. So they shouldn't even be afraid to fill it out if they're not a security risk. So what where's the harm in asking? Well, they I mean you're [applause] they they Well, first of all, they don't have to do it. No, they don't. We try. But it's a good [snorts] I'm just saying we do have a motion. I'm trying, sir. I'm just trying to, you know, be the attorney up here. So, please um yeah, you have you can do whatever you guys want, but yeah, we have a motion on the floor. Again, I just for discussion purposes, I don't see a point. If it's already been it's got shut down before, why throw it up? And I because people want to hear it, CJ.

Okay, that's what the that's what the lawsuit's doing anyway. The way, you know what I mean? So, we've already it's already happening. So, I don't see like what this is going to do. On top of that, I have a question. What is a what is a green field investment? [snorts]

Yes. So green field is a term that I've actually never heard anybody use outside of CPHAS. Um but it refers to a new investment in a new business. So in other words, you're not buying a going concern, but you're starting a new a new business. Well, my question is too is is this state goan incorporated? But everything that I've been told is Goian Illinois, right? So go Illinois is owned by Goan Inc. Um, so to give an example of something that would not be a Greenfield. Let's say there were a pre-sustaining battery plant in Illinois and Goan came in and bought their pre-existing battery plant. That would not be a Greenfield. Um, and that's the kind of transaction CPHAS might have jurisdiction over. But they're also doing other batteries besides electric vehicle batteries. Correct.

I think so. Yeah, cuz I mean it only states on your electric vehicle batteries, but the last time I was told is that they were doing for storage systems batteries. Is that the same? So, from a CPIA standpoint, yeah, that doesn't change the calculus. Um, you know, obviously I defer to to go to to to explain what it does and doesn't do, but the point for CPHAS is regardless of what the business is, if it's not a business that they bought or invested in that already existed, um, then would be Greenfield that CPHAS would not have jurisdiction over. How long does this process usually take?

Um, so I'll give you the short answer. Um, there's two types of filings. Um, and and you can pick either one. Um, the full filing is called a joint voluntary notice. Um, the shorter streamlined version is called a declaration. Um, and you can pick either. There's advantages and disadvantages with with each one. Um, for a JVN, the statutory time frame is 90 days. Um, CPHAS sometimes can do it in 45 days, but um, based on the statute, they got 90 days. Um, it's not necessarily a ceiling because a CPHAS needs more time. There's a mechanism called a withdraw and refile where they can refile and essentially start the clock over. Um, but but under the statute, it's 90 days. For a declaration, it's a 30-day clock. And it's for the long form.

Yeah. Yeah. The joint voluntary notice is is what's sometimes called the long form. Um, and just as another process point, because I know it came up before, um, whether it's a declaration or a joint voluntary notice, um, if you file either filing with CPHAS and there's not jurisdiction, they're not going to accept the filing. Um, they're just going to bounce it for lack of jurisdiction. So, why don't we go ahead and see what they do,

Mayor? Just like everything else that we vote on here, we we talk about that at a committee meeting. We never we haven't discussed this at a committee meeting. I don't feel comfortable saying yes or no at this point because we haven't had that discussion. I think that would be something that we as trustees would want to I I would like to ask Joe a few more questions. I I I'm not saying that I'd vote yes or no. I just don't think I have enough information this being thrown on us at a village board meeting with no prior conversation. This has been brought up before. I don't know if it was talked about.

I don't recall us ever talking about this at a village at a committee meeting. I mean, do do any of the other trustees remember talking about voting on a CE caset? I've heard it from different members, but I assume that they're part of the CCOM, which is suing us and this thing. That's why again this seems to help their lawsuit and I rather again let the court I mean this court what they're doing there on February 4. Let's let again I've already came to this point with any scotion. Let the courts decide and we go as what our what our what our court system go. I trust the court system. Let's let them decide. I don't think we can do anything more. Did we go into executive session for CIFA that at this time like No, cuz it's it doesn't really have whether you decide to do that or not. No. Did we?

Oh, no. We never went We never talked about Cifia said uh in an executive session. Mayor watch. There's still a motion on the floor. [clears throat] There's a motion on the floor. would need voted on or or pulled back. Yeah, absolutely. Barry, yes. Von, yes. Budro, no. Crockett, no. Jessi, no. Not two years.

No, at this time is that I'm sorry. No. All right. Motion fails. Moving on to the village administrator's report. Thank you. I have nothing this evening. Committee reports. Finance Trusty Barry. Thank you, Mayor. Uh, old business on the agenda. Uh, none. New business on the agenda. Payment of the bills. Uh, 249,000. Yeah. Don't stay for the whole meeting. George. George. We're talking. Please. Not going to ask again. George. Okay, I'll leave.

Okay. Thank you. You want to leave? Go ahead. I'll leave. George, enough. Go ahead, Mike.

Payment of the bills $249,76.50 including tiff number $325. [clears throat] Some of the major bills that we paid, uh, $61,000 of homeland disposal for the garbage, $24,000 for our attorney, uh, $24,000 for taser supplies for the police department, $18,521 for salt, and $16,800 uh to green forensic accounting for the forensic audit. Bills authorizing pay between board cycle $45,47382. The next finance committee meeting will be uh February 17th, 2026 at 5:00 PM in the village boardroom. That's all I have.

Trusty Woodro Planning and Zoning. Thank you, Mayor. Um old business. So, yes, at the last committee meeting we had last week, uh we kind of kind of randomly kind of expound on a discussion on growth. Um poor manino blah blah blah. George,

thank you. Um so with that uh in mind we're just we are just kind of thinking I think the board starting to discuss we're going to have this hopefully every month just kind of ideas of uh we don't want to be stagnant we don't want to fall behind um especially for as we've been talking about in their committee meeting forward looking for sources of revenue looking for ways to improve the town uh which we don't want to be like possibly other communities that start to be steady and they fall way behind. So, we're trying to kind of retroactively do it uh with kind of talking about what would that look like because uh I hear again the majority of town and I get this too of we are a small town. We like that. We don't want to be a new Linux. We want to be like that. Of course not. However, if we stay stagnant, uh as kind of gets you pointed out that meeting, I think there is only two options. It's either we continue to pay higher and higher property taxes or we need to grow a bit to try to even that out in a way uh with it. So, if if you have any ideas in the community, uh please reach out to me, too. We're going to start discussing this again hopefully every month um at our committee meetings to kind of hopefully get better, find a path forward where us as a whole board can kind of get behind an idea uh with that and what that would look like to again continue to be the town we are, but still not hopefully have to keep raising taxes on a year-to-year basis. uh with it. Um our next planning and zoning committee meeting is going to be February 11th at 7 a.m. in the village boardroom and the next planning commission meeting is Tuesday, February 10th. Do we have anything currently on that agenda?

Not so far. Okay. Not so far. So that might get cancelled. All right. Thank you, mayor. Thank you. Public safety and health trust von. Thank you, mayor. Um old business, none. New business on agenda? None. um the safety committee report. We have officer Karen Brandt here tonight and she is going to give us our her report. Thank you, Karen.

Hi, I'm Karen Brandt. You guys know me. Uh my family is from Bantino originally, at least from my dad's side. Uh and I've been here for four years. Uh we've had a pretty busy month at the PD. Uh the significant incidents being scams uh have been a continuous thing in town. Um, one of our residents recently lost over $80,000. Um, so educating yourself about how to avoid scams is the best protection. Uh, knowing ahead of time what they're going to be asking, what they're going to be looking for. Uh, there's a few important things to remember. Scammers rely on urgency, fear, or pressure to get victims to act quickly. So, if somebody's demanding something from you, slow down. Um, make sure you know who you're talking to. Never share personal or financial information unless you have independently verified who you're dealing with. An example of that would be like if you get a text from what says their collection agency and they give you a number to call or a link to click, don't do that. Uh find out if it's a legitimate collections agency and then contact them from whatever public number they have listed. Uh don't follow whatever trail someone's led you through text or email or phone calls. Um and then uh be be cautious in general just when you weren't expecting information um someone asking for payment or something like that. Uh when in doubt, just call us. We have no problem. We have all the time in the world to answer these questions. Don't think that you're bothering us. This is our job. We're more than happy to help you not lose money. We've managed to head off a few, which is always really rewarding, but most of the time once the money's gone, um it's gone. Nobody will ask you to pay or as far as I'm concerned, no legitimate business is going to ask you to pay them via gift card. Um or we've had some uh local scamming of people contacting relatives of people who have been arrested and asking for money for a bond or a bracelet. Um there is no cash bond in Illinois anymore, so no one should contact you asking you for cash bond for a relative that's incarcerated. And again, if you're not sure, uh please call us. Thank you.

Thank you, Karen. [applause] Okay. Um, our next meeting is February 17th at 5:00 p.m. Thank you. Thank you, Trusty Von. Public Works and Utilities. Trustee Crackett. Uh, thank you. I don't have any items on the agenda this evening. Uh, we do have a public works committee meeting scheduled for um January the 27th at 7 a.m. here in the village boardroom. Um, I'll refer over to Jim. Jim, anything that you want to mention? Anything going on in public works, projects, so forth?

Uh, ice rink is in good shape. We were able to fill it up over the weekend. Got good and cold. So, might be a little miserable to go out there and play, but it is definitely uh it's it's good shape. We've uh we had some ice over the week, had some water over the weekend. Got it all iced up. So, that's looking good. Uh been out a few times snow plowing. Mainly we've had these 1 in snows. So, uh, throwing down salt, um, and Sunday into Monday or it was, uh, you know, 5°. So, um, talking, yeah, Mr. Craig, um, just to be clear, I've seen a lot of comments on Facebook about the snow blog. No,

and I do snow pl for a living. And I'm going to tell you something, when I left on I don't even know what day it is because I've been doing it. Uh the other night I couldn't see three feet in front of me. It was minus 22 degrees outside. So I just want to be clear that these [snorts] guys are doing the best job they could do under the situations. Secondly, I don't know if anybody's aware, but there's a salt shortage. Our government is now cracked out on salt. So now municipalities are only able to use their allotted quality needs for salt. So Jim has brought in. I called Jim. I said, "Jim, I'm running into a problem with salt and we use a lot more salt in the village does and they've literally shut down the Carville plant in Lamont than Carville is done for the rest of the year."

So I just want everybody to be aware that the salt has to be used sparingly because of the fact is we're not know if we could get any more salt. What do we in the meantime? Huh? I mean,

we have enough to get through. I mean, to do what he's been doing, but it is getting warmer in the sun. You know, during the daytime, the sun does come up. Your street might not be all the way down to Asheville. But that's the best we can do. And somebody has an idea where we could get salt, then please let us know. If somebody wants to volunteer or wants to get paid to go on snowplow at all hours of the night when it's 25 below zero, more power to you. So, I know that a lot of people comment and they they give these guys a bad rap and and doing it myself and being out there, I I would implore these people that are sitting there behind the keyboard warriors to come out and give us 5 minutes of their time in those conditions. I think these guys are doing a great job. We're doing the best we can do. Please keep your comments to yourself. If you do have any comments, keep them to yourself. Thank you,

Jim. With that being said, do we have any uh short-term concerns with salt?

Uh we've, you know, I don't have an accurate amount. We how much we have on hand. Uh half the salt shed. So, yeah, we're we're in good shape. Uh I did put in uh our completion of our 100% of our order. Again, municipalities are getting their salt. Commercial can't right now, but uh I ordered that last week. So, last time we ordered it, we waited three weeks. So shouldn't be an issue for at least for us waiting on it. Um you know a lot of times like even tonight we get this 1 in of snow. We're putting down salt in intersections only. So some people will say oh you know there's snow you know throughout the block. Well we don't salt throughout entire blocks. On the rare occasion we get like an ice storm. We might end up doing a little more salt just to kind of knock down uh ice throughout the road. But generally speaking there roads might be covered. uh it's not going to look like the interstate sometimes. Even County Highway 9, they use a lot more salt and you got a lot more traffic, you know, so we put down salt in an intersection. It doesn't get drove through. It's not going to do anything till the next day or whatever. So there's that misconception of seeing salt and making sure that it, you know, all the roads are 100% dry. It's

so as compared to years past, we might have to be a little more frugal this year to get through the the remainder of the year. Yeah. And we we usually try to be pretty tight with it, too. I think sometimes you see, you know, we're talking people throw salt. It goes right into our storm system, goes into the, you know, ditches, drains, creeks, and ponds, and, you know, it kind of dumps out and, you know, being uh, you know, respectful to the amount of what's needed. I think it's important. How are we doing with equipment? Any breakdowns? Any uh issues with normal stuff, no big deal. Hydraulic hoses and and pumps or mechanics been handling it. No, no real big issues. So, hold it up. Good. Good. Yep. All right. That's all I uh have for my committee report.

Thank you, Trusty Crackett. Properties and recreation. Trusty Gesy.

Thank you. We have uh no new items on the agenda this evening. Um we did discuss at the previous committee meeting and we realized that there's some recognition issues for um different events within the community such as some athletes that had won state that haven't been recognized and signage and everyone wants to um be acknowledged for that. So, uh, this spring we will be working with the parks committee to and the rest of the board to put together a some rules and what we're going to do, how we're going to handle that moving forward. Um, square on second, our bathroom. I know that there's an item on the agenda this evening to get that started. Um, as far as removal of the turf, so this way we can start relocating things and sidewalk fences, etc. Jim, I don't know if you want to give us a little update and a little estimate as to when we think that we'll start seeing some construction happening out there.

Yep. So, that that approval for that bill is kind of the first place or first thing to take place. Uh location where the building's going to go. Uh we're going to be adding the sidewalk going north, removing the sidewalk. Uh still waiting on some of the blueprints. I've contacted a few uh mechanical contractors for um the electrical HVAC and plumbing for that building. Um along with that with the the hookup for a new comed uh feed over there. Uh so yeah, it's trying uh we had a good break in the weather. Unfortunately, the didn't get the bill in time to get that side or that the turf pulled up. So might have to wait until that, you know, we get a little thaw out. They're not going to be able to yank up that uh that turf with some frozen uh gr, you know, the frozen snow and everything else on top of it. But uh that'll be the first thing to take place.

Do we have a projection as to when that may be done like totally built and ready to have the ribbon cutting for the bathroom? I I would like to say spring still. So, you know, getting uh getting started and getting the weather and actually getting the blueprints for starters is going to be uh you know, a couple of the starting points. Um, if anything goes right, you know, it should be a pretty quick build and get going on. Okay. Our next park committee meeting is scheduled for February 11th at 7:00 a.m. right here in the conference room. Thank you, Joel. Do you want to do general government? Sure. And and there was nothing on the general government uh agenda. Her next meeting is scheduled for January 27th at 7 a.m.

Okay. Thank you. Thanks. All right. Under new business, Ordinance 2531, an ordinance amending title 3, business regulations, chapter 9, liquor, section 3914, limitation of the village of Mantino Municipal Code. Chris, you want to explain what that's all about?

Yeah. So, it was discussed at a committee meeting that uh one of the gas stations on North Locust uh has never had a liquor license and pretty much all the other uh gas stations do have that ability to sell retail liquor. So, they did reach out and ask for that liquor license. The board discussed it at a committee meeting and decided that it's only fair that they would be allowed to uh match what all the other gas stations are allowed to do. So, this is adding another liquor license to allow them to sell package liquor at that gas station. Can I have a motion? I'll make that motion as second. Motion by seconded by Barry. Yes. Barry, yes. Bon, yes.

Crockett, yes. Yes. Yes. All right. Ordinance 2532, an ordinance amending title 9 zoning by changing chapter 2 rules and definitions, section 923, definitions, [clears throat] and by changing chapter 7, residential districts, article B, R1, single family residential district. Section 97B3, uses permitted and section 97B4, special uses permitted of the municipal code of the village of Mantino. Again, Chris.

Yeah. So, this was discussed at a couple of the planning commission meetings. Uh it came to light when we had a group home that was looking at locating in one of our R1 districts. Uh it turns out that our ordinance that required a special use for that uh to locate in the R1 district was antiquated and and there were protections against us doing that. So this corrects our ordinance so that we're following the federal and state guidelines for group homes. Thank you. Can I get a motion? I'll make a motion to approve. Second. Motion by Barry, seconded by GKI. Barry. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Vaughn, yes. Groget,

yes. Motion carries. All right. Ordinance 25-33, an ordinance amending title 3, business regulations, chapter 25, short-term [clears throat] rental operators of the village of Mantino Municipal Code. I can just tell you that we went through the um ordinance and made a few changes with the help of Joe Canankar. Any more discussion? What changes were there? And wasn't this voted on just a few weeks ago? It was voted on before the the actual ordinance was completed. It wasn't typed up and written and it was a 60 vote at that point. Right. It was.

What changes are we making? I took out a lot of the things that I thought were not pertinent because we had originally started this whole discussion because uh Trustee Gesky brought up the fact that we needed to know who owns the vacation rentals in town. That was the whole purpose of the ordinance to know who the owners were, where they live, what their phone number is, and the addresses of all of their rentals. What are we voting on to take take out?

Uh how many people can sleep in a bedroom? how many times you're going to sanitize the dishes, how many parking places you have, how many um how many times you rented out the the house, and how much money you made, um a lot of things that were superfluous and were not even related to our purpose. Joe, we got we had a couple questions that came up during this. Um, first off, and this one I think we'd all be in favor of for sure, the licensing fee reducing to zero. Is that we can do that and still hold them accountable or Yeah, we talked about last time I thought we had to do something. That's why we try to keep it as low as possible. But I just want to make sure still has

Let me see here. I got all I I sent a markup version in of this ordinance to show what was taken out. It was only $25 per operator before. Generally speaking, you know, your license fees are they're geared towards what it's going to cost me to um administer, right? Correct. Issue the license background check, whatever the case may be with respect to So, we can charge nothing. If we charge nothing, is that license a valid contract? Because usually there has to be consideration between

license you're fine with. Okay. And then the section 3257, that's the records. In this one, it has redacted. Shouldn't we, again, that's only by request. Shouldn't we still keep part of that in there? That's for you guys. Cuz that's I mean, that's what my thing was like, again, the fee, whatever. Throw that out. Like, do I need to know what every bedroom's for? No, I don't care. But I [clears throat] would like to have it on record though if we do need to request it, then it's somewhere in there of what we have to request, which is what we had.

Yeah. I mean that all 77 was all deleted and then there's section 8 everything up through L was deleted leaving only four things once again the purpose of this ordinance was to find out who owns vacation rentals and where they're located and how to contact one of the owners if there's ever an issue

I did the purpose to me is not just to do that the purpose is if this goes ary to have some teeth to kick them out and not have our residents have to deal with these people. That's what I saw the purpose of not just to find I mean we could find out who the heck the rentals are. Mine was if there's an incident which like Joel said it happened once I would like to have some authority as a village to not allow them to cause scenes or incidents for our residents in town. That's why I want this ordinance, not to find out who they are. If we're going to have an ordinance and we're going to regulate that ordinance, in my mind, the more information we have, the better. Yeah. But and and if I remember

specifically when we talked about this Joe is that there were some changes to the ordinance and we approved it based on the changes that were going to be made. Correct. Yeah. Those were made that that's what you made in this last copy that we already approved that one. Yeah. That one there was there was the original version. Yes. Okay. And then after that passed you went and took out let's say two or three things. We and that ordinance passed and then there's this version which I mean I pass out a mark version of it. I sent it in with the clean. I think we got it too. I thought um so this would be a third version of it.

Again my question was and I said this in the committee meeting too. This was voted on, amended 60, nothing brought up, done, and now 2 months later, we're coming back because maybe some of us didn't read and know all the parts. Like I I hate to say it doesn't look make us look good when we're changing ordinance. We just passed 60 two months ago and we're removing some of the stuff, but like still I again, why are like some of it I just don't understand. Well, I thought Joe brought it up and said that we I don't think it was Joe. I think the mayor wanted and I had a conversation with Joe and he told me I could do that. Yeah. which is fine again.

No, no. Yeah. Yeah. So, the all I ever said was I want you guys to look at the ordinance, talk about it, see what you want in it, see what you don't want in it, and let's get a final version done, right? One way or the other. And that's what I thought you guys did the one what do you guess it was two months ago? I I don't know. The the second one, right? So, this would be a new version. I This is what the mayor asked me to to do. So, I did it for a presentation for you guys. Again, doesn't matter to me. I just want you guys all do. Chris, did some did a resident or somebody come to the village and request changes to this?

No, I've not heard from anybody. We when we originally got it from Joe, we sent it to the board, I believe, 30 days in advance of when it was voted on at the meeting. We discussed it and I printed the the full ordinance out for the committee meeting when it was discussed and then it was sent again in uh uh email form to the board right before the board meeting. So they did have three opportunities to review that ordinance before it was voted on. I think a couple of us even talked to some other owners of these things and that's the stuff that we removed was what that was requested. I don't see the point of the rest of this happening with it because a lot of it too is only based on requests not they have to always provide it to us.

My question is once again Chris is is going back to this is that it says total square footage and description of each room in the short-term rental including any basement if finished or improved whether or rented. But we can't ask these questions on group homes that we just approved. But we're going to ask these questions on Airbnb. Yeah. Again, there's there's different rules for group homes than there is for rentals. But I mean, my question is what sense why wouldn't we just I I don't know that doesn't

And that one to me is dumb, too. But again, it just never was brought up. So like again, that only would have to do when it's done. Like I a lot of this is again just if it's requested, which we hope never happens, but this is just there again just in case it does, we can have it. I'm not opposed to eliminating that. I'm not opposed to eliminating the

correct. Yeah. Well, and I mean I mean the other one too is that it says on here about the operator should maintain above records for a period of three years following each rental transaction and full complete. And I and if I remember right when we discussed this stuff, these I have a big X on 3257 that that's on there now. Now maybe I I might be a little bit slow. I got hit in the head too many times. I think there was parts of that, but I don't think we were saying the whole thing. I You're right.

You're right. I I think I part of the confusion here is the ordinance I marked up was the original, not the one that you guys changed. So that's why because I I still have the 3-25-7 in here too. So that you're right. Yeah, because I I remember that we said that you're absolutely right. Names, addresses, telephone number. I mean, that was it. And then I mean, I see you have driver's license out there, but all this other stuff was was out of there if I remember correctly. You're right. No, you're absolutely right. Yeah. So So can we go through this line by line, put on your committee meeting, or do you guys want to vote on it tonight? No, I want to I want to look through this and and I'll get you the correct a corrective markup. That's my

back on to our my committee meeting. We can go through it again and make sure we're all on the same page and we're all good when we vote on this and not just kind of keep throwing it back and forth. I'd appreciate that. You know, just so we got clarification. All right. So, we're going to move on. I need a motion to table. No, you don't. There there wasn't a motion made to approve it. Consideration regarding a motion to approve an estimate from LT Turf Pros Pon Illinois in the amount of $22,484 to remove and reinstall turf at the square on second. Did we get multiple quotes here, Jim? No, this is the company that did the installs. Okay.

Yeah. [clears throat] My secondary question is, don't we have turf that's sitting there at their facility, Jim? Yes. So, we're going to reinstall this turf, too. Yes. This is where the pavilion is going over on the south side. The turf that we have is that is sitting at their facility is for the the by the jumpy pillow over in that area. That's what to replace that cuz that's old. So, they're going to take this turf out. I saw the estimate. They're going to take the turf out where the area is going because of construction. We're going to build the facility and then put the turf back down. Correct. That was part of the reason when we were talking about the other location, but I think we've all agreed as a board we want it.

No, no, I'm fine with the and I mean I looked at his estimate. It says I mean I agree with it the estimate. I don't have a problem with that. It's going to be 6 days of work. My question is is what are we going to do for drainage there? Are we going to put any outside drains there, Jim, in the turf or we just going to where are the gutters and downspouts going to go off that building? Uh yeah, it would considering that that the turf is sitting on 6 to 8 in of stone, we should be okay. But yeah, we'd have the opportunity to uh Well, you know what I'm saying? Like the roof line like that? Yeah. Coming down water-wise on that that's going to take a lot more water than, you know, normally just I mean, you got trees and stuff, you know what I mean? So, I mean, are they talking about burying those drains or or

Yeah, that would that'd be for us to to send and do. So, yeah, that could be done. or even like a you know even a drain for a couple drains around the the facility you know I mean just as we're doing it you know I mean that'd be something I want to look into about putting some groundwater drains in there depending on the pitch and everything else I'll make the motion I'll second motion by Barry second by Barry yes yes yes rocket yes Yes.

Motion carries. Consideration regarding a motion to approve payment of the bills in the amount of $249,76.50 including tiff number three, $125. I'll make the motion. Motion by Barry. Second. Second by Barry. Yes. Van. Yes. Yes. Cert. Yes, yes, just to clarify, Chris, there's no amount on here. So, that's correct amount. It says motion to approve and payment of bills in the amount of I have zero. Yeah, though that what you read was the correct amount. Yeah, I don't have that on.

It was $249. $249,76. How many just say if you ever wonder it's on [music] the TV there all corners I guess okay um comments Joel um no real comments quick question and I know we've talked a little bit about this talked about it it's in the bills the audit um and mayor you made mention do we have any update as far as when they're going to be done with that?

I actually had a phone call just before I came to this meeting and I'm going to call back when I get home. So maybe I'll get information on that tonight. Okay. But the last time we spoke he said probably February. February. Okay. Sounds good. Uh that's all I have. Todd,

uh as CJ mentioned, I I thought we had a good committee meeting this past week. we started uh talking a little bit about uh growth and what the future of the village looks like from a from a growth standpoint. Uh as CJ mentioned and and I think as trustees we all agree um we have to have good responsible controlled growth. We're not looking to grow out of control uh grow out of control. We're not looking to be, you know, you know, Planefield or Shorewood or one of these towns that have seen uh, you know, expansive growth over a short period of time. Um, but at the same time, myself included, we've all, you know, gotten accustomed to enjoying our tax rebates. We've all gotten accustomed to enjoying our free garbage pickup. Well, that comes with a cost and we have to determine new revenue streams in order to pay for these costs. Um, we had also talked about um uh you know world from the standpoint of rooftops and and developers wanting to come to Mantino. Uh you know, you need the rooftops before these developers are going to come and put up a grocery store or a convenience store or a new restaurant or a chain this or a chain that. We got to be careful about what we wish for from that aspect as well. But we need the rooftops first. We need to see some growth in our population. Um, as Chris has mentioned at uh at the planning and zoning committee meeting, um, we've built very few homes here in Mantino over the last couple of years, a very limited number of homes. And and and the people that are doing that are doing a great job. Uh but we we do have to look at other builders as well. Maybe bringing in uh you know maybe a national builder uh somebody that can put up 20 40 60 homes

a year. Uh so these are all good things. I know as we had mentioned we're going to look at each trustee to come up with two or three ideas on how we can spur some growth and some new revenue streams. Uh so you know I I look forward to that conversation and uh good productive uh conversation as well. So um that's what I have for this evening. Thank you.

Uh I agree with him. I think we need to bring some more businesses into town to fill up some of the vacant buildings that we have vacant. And I think we need to work on that and, you know, work together to see what we can all do to try to help bring [cough] more business to our community because I think it's going to uh help with the the taxes and stuff as well. Um, and I just want to say public works, I think, is doing a good job on the snow plowing and that and everybody just be careful walking out there when it is slippery. So, you don't want to fall and hurt yourself. That's all I have. Thank you. Uh, yep. Just really quick with the votes, as we all kind of said, the liquor license makes sense for even competition. Again, I know planning uh the planning committee did a great job um talking about these group homes again to put us in the best shape as possible. Again, with federal and state laws, we are kind of limited to what we can do, but I think we did as much as we can um on that. Again, hopefully based on the weather this weekend, the turf might be there for a while, but hopefully it warms up so we can start doing that project. I hope spring is very close to near. Obviously, the bills need to be paid there, too. And as we kind of keep saying again, we're starting to kind of brainstorm again, as I kind of mentioned at the end of the last year. Again, having these kind of 5year, 10-year plans. We're trying to get ahead of the curve. Um, and hopefully again be ahead of the curve, but keep our residents happy. Well, maybe growing a little bit again. Um, some growth is good. Stagnation could lead to problems. We're seeing towns in our areas that that is starting to affect them greatly and their properties are going up the roof. So, we don't want that obviously. So, just kind of having that balance would be great uh with it. So, again too, if you have any ideas at all uh with that said, if you maybe have uh family members that live outside of Mantino and what they're seeing their communities, that's a great kind of idea. Throw it our way. Again, we're just any ideas, we're going to throw stuff at the wall and see what sticks kind of in the board uh with it. Uh, and that's all I have. Thank you,

mayor. Thank you. Do it, Mike. Um, unfortunately, I wasn't able to make it to the board meeting, but

I mean, I understand getting rooftops and I understand all that stuff, but I also think there's other avenues that could be addressed. I mean, we look at a town 3 miles to the south of us. I understand that they've done a lot over there. They have businesses that are coming in. They're not giving any tax breaks. They're not giving any savings. They're not giving away the house to get these people to come here. So, I also know that 20 years ago, we had a housing boom and then we shut it down. What we're going to see is people aren't going to be able to afford to live in Manino anymore because of the taxes and businesses that are coming in. I mean, I've reached out to our biggest business that got the house to come here and asked them if they had any other companies that were interested in coming to the area. Uh, anything whatsoever. I definitely think that it's time to look at instead of spending 70 $80,000 a year on conventions bureau that does absolutely nothing for us is to take that money and to invest it into a company that's going to help spur growth here. Any other village you talk to, they've they've hired someone to come out and do a study and they have the contacts of the people. Us sitting up here talking about contacts. Yeah, I can go and call I can call Juwel. like all this jewel is not going to come here. We need businesses and people that they set the demographics, they set the population to what it is and they work from there. And I think that that money is more valuable spent on our town than giving the money to the rest of the county.

That's who we have to look out with first. I appreciate it. Thank you. Have a good evening. Thank you. I want to say thank you to Don Leer for coming forward and offering to be our our village chaplain. We really appreciate that, Don. And thank you to all the people who continue to come to the meetings. It's wonderful. You're you're active citizens. You're doing your job as a good citizen and we appreciate you. And thank you to the trustees tonight. A motion. I'll second. All in favor? I meeting is adjourned.