City Council - Regular Meeting

Are there any additions or corrections to those minutes? If not, is there a move to approve? So move.

Second.

Motion is second. All in favor, please say aye.

Aye.

Any opposed? And the minutes are approved. Do we have any questions on tonight's agenda for the city manager from the dais? Any questions? City manager, anything for us? No, sir.

Okay.

Is there a move to adjourn?

I moved.

Second. We will adjourn and we'll start the regular meeting right at 6 o'clock. You are free to continue to visit.

Thank you.

is we'll call it order tonight's auburn city council meeting for june the 20 june the 16th 2026 welcome all of you who are joining us in the council chambers as well as they're listening and wa and i are they're watching through our streaming services with the roll call lindsay adams here obelisk here dawson here griswold here mormon here parsons here taylor bitten here anders here Would you please rise for the Pledge of Allegiance and remain standing for a moment of silence. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Please be seated. Earlier during the committee, the whole, the city council had no business this evening. So we'll begin with announcements. Um, I want to thank the Auburn university board of trustees for having me over a couple of weeks ago to give a update from the city. Uh, it's quite an honor, uh, to speak to, um, the leaders of our university while they are going through one of their work sessions. And I appreciate their sincere interest in what we do here in the city and how it involves. their students and their faculty and their staff over at Auburn University. I also want to say thank you to the athletic department for allowing me to take a small part of the participation for the golf team's national championship celebration at Tumor's a couple weeks ago. Fortunately, that is the second time in three years that that has occurred. What a great program that represents our community and our university very, very well, and we wish them all the best, especially Jackson Coivin, who's playing in the U.S. Open this week and has turned pro. I want to thank the Daughters of the American Republic and Habitat for inviting me last week to Flag Day Ceremony, where a flag was presented to a new homeowner. That is a partnership that has been going on since I have been elected, and I thank both organizations who both do a great job. for hosting that recognition. I also want to thank East Alabama Health. Recently, the Cancer Survivors Picnic was held over in Opelika at Spring Villa, and myself and Mayor Smith spoke to that group of people. What a group of warriors that is, people who have fought the fight against cancer and who are currently in remission. There was a lot of happy people that day, and I just appreciate our own Vanessa ran the show that day, and thank you for your work and your assistance, and it was a great event. The soccer event came and went, and the public relations and the positive PR that has come from that to our town and our university has been substantial. Certainly I want to say thank you to our public safety men and women and anybody else in the staff that had to deal with the flood that occurred two hours before the game started. It was quite substantial. I've told people I even thought it was biblical at times. There was so much water that came down. But it all happened, the game happened, all the people showed up, and I believe it will be a net positive. We look forward to some of the economic stories that will be provided in the near future. But I appreciate everybody pitching in to make that happen. Our own Andy Burcham is going to be inducted into the Hall of Fame next week, and I'm just proud of him. He has been a loyal, loyal member of this community for a long, long time as he has called the games over at Auburn University, and he is being recognized appropriately. I want to say congratulations and happy birthday to our neighbors, Smith's, who celebrated their 25th birthday last weekend. And we think as Auburn is approaching a 200th birthday in the near future that Smith's is still a very, very young town and Mayor Cooley's a fine man and he's doing a great job down there, but congratulations to them. I want to remind everyone before we get back together, the 4th of July will have come and gone and I just want to thank everybody on our staff that provides the 4th of July fireworks. That is a heavy lift. Well, many of us get the day off. Many of us get to go and celebrate and, and be with family and friends out of town or in other places. A lot of our staff are in and around duck Sanford stadium, making sure that we can enjoy a firework show. And I just want to say thank you to all of you that'll give up your 4th of July with your families, uh, to be a part of that. Um, since we have gotten together before we get together the next time there will have been substantial golf, swimming and tennis events in our community. Um, You know, sports tourism has become important to Auburn. There's going to be thousands of folks that are going to come through our community over the next couple of weeks to participate in these events, and we're thankful to have the types of facilities and partnerships and employees that help make these events happen. They provide good things for our community by the tourism revenues that are left here in our community. And also, there's going to be engineering, architecture, and transportation conferences that will be held in the Auburn area over the next couple of weeks. So, Auburn's a great place to live, but there's also people that really desire to be here. And we're thankful for that, thankful for what they bring to our community. And next week, I get to eat lunch with the New Venture Accelerator students that have recently participated in the Tiger Cage competition. These are some students that we are trying to convince that Auburn might be a great place for them to stay after they get through college, and just to talk to them about what their dreams and ambitions are. We are blessed to have a great student body here at Auburn University, and I certainly look forward and thankful to be invited to spend some time with them. Anyone else?

Um, the polls are still open if you need to slip out and, uh, go vote, uh, shouldn't be a long line, but, uh, it's your last opportunity.

A little less than an hour. Okay. We'll move forward to our university communications. If I may. Yeah, I'm sorry, Bob.

I just, I was hoping that councilwoman Taylor would be here for me to, uh, thank her for the work that she. did, uh, on the organizing of the Juneteenth parade and, uh, uh, festival out at Kiesel park. The both events were lovely, a lot of great attendance, um, good weather, and, uh, it was very enjoyable and I'll make sure I thank, thank her personally when I see her next.

Thank you, Bob. I appreciate you covering that.

Anyone else?

Okay. Aubrey university communication.

Good evening City Council, Mayor Anders. My name is Andrew Faircloth and I have the opportunity to serve as Auburn University's SGA's Director of City Relations. And I'm very grateful for the opportunity to come speak to y'all today and share some good news about what we have going on throughout the summer months of our campus. First thing I wanted to highlight is our summer camps. Right now our campus is currently welcoming thousands of students and visitors for a wide variety of camps, whether it's academic slash leadership camps or whether it's athletic camps such as football, basketball, cheer. All these camps are very valuable to the university as it brings families from all across the nation to really showcase what a wonderful university we do have. The other thing I wanted to highlight is Camp War Eagle is officially in full swing. I told you all earlier, but I do have the honor of serving as a Camp War Eagle counselor for the university. We just wrapped up session six. It was a little rainy, but it's a very valuable experience. for all those who participate. And we work very hard to make sure these incoming freshmen have a very smooth transition to their freshman year. Also, our summer classes are also continuing to be underway. It's very nice to see students taking advantage of this opportunity to continue their academic progress. And it's really nice to see the campus still alive even in those summer months. The Jay and Susie Gouge Performing Arts Center will have a performance tomorrow night. Again, it's a very valuable resource to the university as it brings families together to see the arts within the city of Auburn. In terms of athletics, the mayor kind of stole my thunder for a second there. But our men's golf team did take home another national championship. It's second in three years. I'm very proud of them. And our men's track and field team had a couple individual champions as well. But that's all for me tonight. Take care and War Eagle. War Eagle.

Not only are they champions, one set a world record, which is pretty phenomenal. Pretty phenomenal. Okay, this time we'll open the floor up for citizens communications on items on tonight's agenda. I will point you to a number of items in our agenda tonight that have public hearings attached. If you'd like to speak to the council about one of those items, please wait till the public hearing is opened later on in the agenda. But if you'd like to speak to the council now, it'd be a time to come forward and we'd ask that you share your name and address for the record and you'll have five minutes to speak. Okay, we'll move ahead with the city manager's communications.

Mayor, under City Manager's Communications this evening, we have the announcement of two vacancies on the Green Space Advisory Board for terms that begin August 8th and end August 7th, 2030. The appointments will be made at the July 21st meeting. Ready for the consent agenda? Our first item of business is a consent agenda. Does any council member wish to remove an item from the consent agenda and deal with that item individually?

Yes, 8B1, please. 8B1, okay.

Anyone else?

Yep. 8, Charlie, 3. Okay.

8, C, 3. Anyone else? Okay. 8, B, 1.

I may be one is a request from our articularis health healthcare group to waive $11,588 and 69 cents in penalties from late payment for their 2026 business license fee. All associated taxes and interest have been paid and this company has not requested a waiver of penalty previously.

If approval.

Second.

Motion is second.

Mr. Griswold. Thank you. Yeah. I'm just curious about how we let this thing get to be so big. You know, $11,000 is a lot of money. Finance Director, speak to that. And what measures do we have in place that could have or should have prevented this large amount?

Hold on just a second. So, mind you, we have a business license ordinance, and we do our best to track people to get them to pay, but we have limited authority. and our abilities to do so. So I'll have Allison take it from there.

Yeah, that's exactly right. And we do the best we can and try our best to collect. We are constantly collecting late accounts, and things do get bigger at times. But when they do come forth and pay everything that they owe and have not had a waiver, this part of our business license ordinance does give them that option to have one waiver without any calls. Okay.

Yeah, I recognize that's what we've done in the past and everything. I was just curious when I see an amount that large if possibly we missed something or apparently we did not miss something. This is a normal process.

Yes, it is.

And they have paid all of their taxes?

Everything has been paid. Except the late fee. This is just the penalty.

And if they do it again?

They won't get one because they can only have one every three years.

Okay. All right. Thank you. Any other comments or questions? All right, we have a motion and a second. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? And the motion carries. 8C3.

Item 8C3 authorizes a temporary parking agreement with the Mark at Auburn LLC for the temporary use of some parallel parking spaces along Wright Street.

Move for approval. Second. We have a motion and a second. Mr. Moorman?

Yes, sir. Um, I just thought there might be some confusion if people see this space, um, being used and maybe it's obvious that it's just temporary, but, uh, as I understand it, there are seven places that are going to be occupied and we're getting pretty good rent, at least fair rent for this, uh, for the rent of these spaces, and the time period is about two years.

I guess that may be flexible.

So it's not that they're necessarily going to be taking those spaces and using them for parking. They're actually demoing that portion of the road, so they're actually creating a turnout in front of the development there, and this allows them to get out of the way of public and not have to back the big trucks into the site or pull them out and things like that. So it's less disruptive to the traveling public and pedestrians as well. The reason we're getting reimbursed is we're losing access to those spaces for the duration, not just during the normal weekday, but also 24-7 weekends, game days, and all that during the course of the construction.

So as is typical with something like this where we're charging for parking spaces, that's also why they're, they're being charged for the use of that space. We have other areas of town, um, West Glen Avenue where you dealt with some of this recently where they're not being charged because we do not charge for parking in that location.

Yeah. Thank you. Anyone else have a comment question? All right. Second on favor, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? And the motion cares. Do I have a motion to approve the balance of the consent agenda? I move. Motion second. Any further questions, comments? All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? And the consent agenda is approved. Ordinances.

Under Ordinances Item 9A1, amend City Code Section 13-4 to allow hunting within a planned unit development only when such activities are allowed by the governing documents of that planned unit development. Unanimous consent is necessary.

I'll introduce the ordinance and ask for unanimous consent. Second.

I have a motion and a second. Does anyone on the council have a problem moving forward with a vote on this this evening? Seeing and hearing none, any comments or questions?

Yes, Mr. Mayor. Please. I've received some correspondence on this item. Mainly, I think it's been a surprise to some constituents that there is an ordinance in place that the discharging of weapons can take place within the city limits. And I was wondering if we could get provided with a quick overview of the ordinance as it stands and the nuances within that ordinance as it relates to acreage.

Certainly do the best I can. You have an ordinance before you where we were not prepared to speak to the nuances of the ordinance, only the changes. But the ordinance in front of you was adopted some time ago, and I can have our city attorney, he may have that off the top of his head. You do not. I do not. There was a lot of discussion in front of the city council yesterday. Um, at the time this ordinance was adopted and this was very much a community. And city council decision. And it talks about the need, uh, part of it is, you know, hunting from the ground and, or stocking hunting is prohibited on parcels, less than 100 contiguous acres. Um, one of the challenges that you're running into with planned unit development districts and one you're considering later tonight is part of it was not in the city limits. Therefore it could be hunted adjacent to the city limits with whatever it wanted. Period if it remains outside the city limits and so, um. Some of this is in response to large world tracks also that we had up and more than 3 in particular. It permeates more date and 7 as well now, but way up on the chambers county line. There's several parcels that are in. They're very large in nature and people wanted to continue hunting, but it was also putting safeguards in place for. certain buffer zones based on discharge of weapons and so on. And I think people smile about it, but bow hunting not meeting this requirement is illegal. Shooting certain animals in your backyard is not legal by this ordinance now. You start shooting a gun in the middle of City Limits, people freak out pretty handily. So there are safeguards in place, and we were not proposing to change any of this with the Noble Hall agenda item coming up because hunting has been taking place on that property. for many, many years, and now a piece of it that was not previously in the city limits is requesting to come in as why the change. But sorry that I can't give you a greater overview now. But there's a lot of buffering distance restriction on types of weapons and ammunition that can be used in those weapons and so on, all very thoughtfully done at a period in time where this was a big deal. And even the likes of the old Sanford project and other things, that was all hunting land before it became a development. And some of those projects were involved. There is also a permitting process. Theoretically and technically, you're supposed to have a permit to hunt even on land that meets the criteria. And we're not the Fish and Wildlife. We're not here to the game warden. We're just making sure you meet zoning criteria. And so we do that when needed. And a lot of folks do check with us on that.

Perfect, and I hate to jump ahead, but it kind of pertains to what's to come. Under the PUD, the acreage of both of the parcels that we are yet to see would put the discharge of firearms into the 100 plus acreage category, correct?

That's correct. The challenge is it wouldn't by its base zone if you rezone it before you get to the PUD. It would not be allowed per the city code. It's not the zoning ordinance, but the comprehensive development district, which is the requested ultimate zone, because some of it's been that way since 1984, would not have allowed that in a base zone perspective. So to allow it in the planned unit development is why the request for the change. And again, only the council controls that. It's not a staff decision. The applicant would have to ask for it to be allowed in a planned unit development district. It has to meet 100% of the regulations that exist today. Right. And then it would have to get a permit. Am I missing anything?

Thank you. Your questions.

Yes.

I have one question. Uh, this again, this pertains to the existing ordinance, not the changes. So it may not be answerable today, but, um, this says that it's okay to hunt with it on a 20 acre contiguous, uh, rural area. Okay.

So is it 20 or a hundred or is it, it changes on the different types of hunting that you're doing.

Okay.

so hunting with a bow and arrow crossbow or shotgun on undeveloped parcels of land 20 contiguous acres or more in the rural district right then they restrict and then it has other things relative to stocking and whatever it's it's very detailed so the 100 was something i picked up on there is a 20 acre thing as well but in the rural zone right okay okay so with a with a 20 acre plot

Assuming they get the permission and everything, a landowner can grant permission to hunt as long as it's zoned rural or in a PUD.

If you allow it in a PUD under the governing documents.

Correct.

So it's not a by-right in a PUD. It is a by-right in rural if you meet the criteria.

Correct.

Thanks. Thank you, Kelly, for the clarification.

Good question. All right. Any other questions?

I'd like to piggyback on both of those comments. If you have 100 acre piece and we do, then you can discharge a shotgun with a slug in it. Or you can use a tree stand. Or you can be 800 feet minimum from your boundary and be legal.

You can do what it says in here, unless the council chooses to restrict in the governing conditions. When we get to that item that further, or if the applicant is willing to stipulate that they're okay with different conditions. So you can add another layer to it, but you're correct. Sunny.

If you don't do that, those things all apply here, but as it stands, if it's zoned rural, it's allowable within a hundred. Yes.

And it appears from, it appears from reviewing the code very quickly that some form of this ordinance has been on the books since 1982.

Right. And it got modified and correct. Yes.

The current and property as a rural piece of property or as a PUD it's allowed under both zones.

It's not going to be allowed in a PUD unless you approve a PUD with it being allowed. The zoning ordinance doesn't speak to it is what I'm telling you. So being you adopted a PUD, the foundry, it's not allowed on the foundry because it was not, it's been rezoned to other things and it is not, it's a PUD, but it's not in their governing documents. So this is our way of dealing with the council would have direct control over how that was decided. And ultimately it is before you because of the noble hall project and the request and the intent of the staff here is, is this is a preservation project. This is a different style of PUD that we'll talk about this. The goal is the applicant wants to preserve the property. There's conservation easements and we're using the plan unit development district, not to. increase intensity of the project but to keep it from being heavily developed and that's something the landowner and applicant is very committed to and so this is a different style and one of the many ways in which a PUD can be very successful for the city at your discretion any other questions comments motion second Lindsay with roll call yes yes ma'am

Yes, ma'am. Griswold? Yes, ma'am. No, ma'am.

Parsons?

Yes.

Whitten?

Yes.

Yes.

All right, motion carries. Moving on to Item 9A2, we're going to stay in the City Code, and this would amend City Code Section 8-5, Political Signs, to remove requirements that are not enforceable due to the United States Supreme Court Reed v. Town of Gilbert ruling quite a few years ago.

I'll introduce the ordinance and ask for unanimous consent.

Second. I have a motion and a second. Does anyone on the council have a problem moving forward with a vote on this this evening? Seeing and hearing none, any comments or questions? Okay. Lindsey with the roll call.

Koblenz?

Yes, ma'am.

Dawson?

Yes, ma'am.

Griswold?

Yes, ma'am.

Foreman?

Yes, ma'am.

Parsons?

Yes.

Whitten? Yes. Adams?

Yes.

Anders?

Yes. Item nine B authorizes a franchise agreement with Vero fiber network. Unanimous consent is necessary and a public hearing is recommended but not required.

I introduced the ordinance and asked for unanimous consent.

Second motion seconds in one of the council of problem moving forward with the vote on this this evening. Seeing a hearing now, we'll open the public here. If you'd like to address the city council, please come forward and give us your name and address for the record and you have five minutes. Speak to the council. Seeing no one, we'll close the public hearing. Any comments or questions from the council?

Yes, I have a quick question. Not just for this one, but for all these non-exclusive franchises for the networks, do the franchisee have a requirement to restore the right-of-way, landscaping, dirt, sod, whatever?

Mr. Cummings will respond to that for you.

Yes, absolutely. And we have means by which to track them when they're doing work and follow up if they fail to do so satisfactorily. We've got a number of staff that track that. We have a right-of-way coordinator that stays on top of that too.

Do they have a time period in order to do that?

I mean, generally, it should be whatever is a reasonable, acceptable time after they've made the damage. But if it fails to, then we will follow up with them to get it done.

We've had some instances, too, where they want to perform work when we're not pleased with them blocking a public street and other things. And the city has recently shut some projects down for that very reason. And we're not afraid to talk with the city attorneys about that impacting. I've heard from all nine of you with concerns on the regular and this right-of-way coordinator position. We're doing the best that we can, but we certainly don't catch everything. People show up in neighborhoods every day to do utility work that we are unaware of. And we really try to get out there and stop them and force them to go through the process if they don't have approved plans to do so and so on. We have some limited authority at times about the timing that you speak of, Councilman Griswold. We do our best to firmly state that you will not be moving on to another area until you fix this one.

Thank you. Any other questions? Okay. Lindsay with the roll call.

Dawson.

Yes, ma'am.

Yes, ma'am.

Yes, ma'am. Arsons. Yes. Whitten. Yes. Adams. Yes. Koblitz.

Yes, ma'am. Yes.

Item 9C1 establishes a no parking zone along the west side of Ivy Lane and around the cul-de-sac. Unanimous consent is necessary.

I'd like to introduce the ordinance and ask for unanimous consent. Second.

I have a motion and a second. Anyone on the council have a problem moving forward with a vote on this this evening? Seeing any comments or questions.

Okay.

Lindsay with the roll call. Yes, ma'am.

Yes, ma'am. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

I am nine C two establishes a no parking zone in front of two zero six and two zero eight Reese Avenue, along with two 11 Marion circle. Unanimous consent is necessary.

I'll introduce the ordinance and ask for unanimous consent.

Second.

I have a motion and a second. Does anyone on the council have a problem moving forward with a vote on this this evening? Mr. Mayor, I'd like to postpone this item.

It's in Ward 6, and I've been getting considerable correspondence with the public about this item. And I'd also like to take the opportunity outside of the council to speak with staff and management about the process by which these applications are made. I'd move to postpone this item until the first council meeting in July.

Councilman Parsons, do you want this to still count as first reading?

Yes.

So you would be okay with this counting as first reading, plus you would like to postpone to the next meeting? Yes. Just want to clarify for the record.

Thank you. So, Councilman Parsons is asking to postpone this to July the 7th. Correct. Any other comments or questions on that from the dais? Okay. Do we need to take a vote on the postponement then?

Yeah, but a voice vote is fine on the postponement.

So, all in favor of postponing until July the 7th, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? And that motion carries.

Hey, go ahead, Mayor. I'm sorry.

Okay.

Item nine D one is a request to annex approximately 0.7, seven acres of property located at seven, seven, five Lee road, 84, also known as pear tree road. The planning commission unanimously recommended approval of this request that it's June 11th meeting. Unanimous consent is necessary.

I want to introduce the ordinance and ask for unanimous consent.

Second motion seconds. He, when the council had a problem moving forward, the vote on this this evening, seeing here, you know, any questions, comments. Okay, Lindsey, roll call.

Parsons?

Yes.

Whitten? Yes. Adams? Yes. Koblentz?

Yes, ma'am.

Dawson?

Yes, ma'am. Griswold? Yes, ma'am.

Yes, ma'am.

Yes.

Item 92 is a request to annex approximately 64.29 acres of property located on the west side of Shelton Mill Road and south of Bridalwood Drive. The property is known as the Noble Hall Easement Property. The Planning Commission unanimously recommended approval of this request at its May 14th meeting. Unanimous consent is necessary.

I'll introduce the ordinance and ask for unanimous consent.

Second. I have a motion to second. Does anyone on the council have a problem moving forward on a vote on this this evening? I'm seeing and hearing none. Any comments or questions? Okay. Lindsay?

Whitten? Yes. Adams? Yes. Koblentz?

Yes, ma'am.

Dawson?

Yes, ma'am.

Griswold?

Yes, ma'am.

Norman?

Yes, ma'am.

Parsons?

Yes. Yes.

The next three items will continue on into noble hall items. We'll take them one at a time, but you will have some presentations and so on during the public hearing portions. Item 91 is a request to rezone approximately 64.29 acres of property located on the west side of Shelton mill road in south of bridal wood drive from rural to comprehensive development district. This area is known as the noble hall easement property. The planning commission unanimously recommended approval of this request at its may 14th meeting. Unanimous consent is necessary and a public hearing is required.

I want you to do some ordinance and ask for unanimous consent.

Second of motion seconds in on the council. I have a problem moving forward with the vote on this this evening. Seeing hearing none at this time, we'll open the public hearing. If you'd like to address the city council, please come forward and give us your name and address for the record. And you have five minutes to speak to the council.

Uh, good evening, Mr and the council. I'm Warren Jolly. My wife and I were very fortunate to get this property under contract with the Auburn University Real Estate Foundation. We've been working on it since November. And we're here tonight to, if you don't know the history, I think this property, Ann Pearson died in 2000, left us to Auburn University Foundation. They didn't take it until 2022. As you're aware that the city built a park on part of the property across the street. Um, this is the remaining property that's left is 118 acres between the blue and the orange. I'm trying to go over both of them. We're talking about the blue piece right now. The blue piece is in Lee county. We just annexed it and to the city. Um, and we want to take this zoning from rule to CDD, which the orange is CDD, and then we're going to take it further. There's another zoning case to take it CDD to PUD. Um, and the easement track is called the easement because there's a conservation easement right now with Alabama or Georgia, Alabama trust. It allows two homes to be built on it. There's a current, uh, small home that can be a guest house and a barn current lake. Um, the reason we have different conditions from Um, the orange and the blue is cause there's different uses and different covenants allowed with both pieces. And we did not want anybody to get misrepresented and get them on the different property. Um, the, the orange base will, you know, is, um, is zone CDD now, right now. And that's been the main core is in the city. And the whole idea is to take away the development rights of that track. is the main focus of what her estate was and also what the Auburn University Foundation. That property has the existing Noble Hall house on it. And it's a historic home built in 1854. It's on the National Register of Historic Places. Our intent, my wife's intent, is to restore that home to what it was in the prime. And then there's some existing homes that would be built There are two other houses on the property and a couple other structures. We plan to leave it intact to the size and scale that it is. And then we want to add a couple little cottages around for our kids that are grown adults and our grandkids. Overall, I think this is a great case to why PUD is in the code now, which is just adopted. Because we went to staff and Justice and Scott and said, hey, we want to do this great project. We only want to build a couple of houses. Even if we took the piece in Lee County to rule, you couldn't build the two houses on it. And so this is a great chance for us to be able to prove it, to make it look what we told the university, what the foundation wanted it to look like. And we really couldn't have done it any other way. There are a lot of questions I think at your meeting you had the other week, like not the packet meeting, but the house is going to be restored. The signs are going to stay on there. There's a marker in front of the property. We're working with the Auburn University to go through that house and video the restoration. There's actually a cannonball on the side of the house from the Civil War. It's got a lot of history with the university, some of the former presidents of the university lived there from the Great Depression. So we want to pull all that history out and be able to do it. In my past, in Atlanta, we gave the Peters House discad, a Savannah school of arts in downtown. And it's really a really cool house. My wife and I restored several houses in Charleston in Atlanta. And I think the reason we were chosen from the university, um, is because most people wanted to modify the house and add to it. We want to keep the house like it is. And, and why don't you flip the slides? So there's a site plan. The white houses are the additional houses that we're adding. additional barn, all the gray houses. So it's all kind of condensed. There's, there's a easement in front that nothing can be built from a view shed in front of the house. Um, go to the next slide if you don't mind. Um, go to the next, there's that shaded areas that view shed. Um, there's the house, uh, back in the thirties. Um, go to the next couple of slides. That's what it looks like today. Obviously he's got a tarp. Everybody wants the tarp to go away. Um, keep clicking. That's what the corn is. It's in very bad disrepair. It's been getting a lot of water over the years. Go to the next one, please. That's what the house will look like when it's finished. The stucco was actually scored to look like stone. You can see the old lines in it, so we would repair that and rescore it. If you have any questions, I'm more than happy to answer.

Thank you, Mr. Jolly. Great job. Thank you.

And he can go back through on the next five minutes on the next items or answer your questions. Okay.

Anyone else? Okay. We'll close the public here. Any comments or questions from the council?

The folks that I've talked to are elated about this. They are so happy that the thing will be preserved and grateful to Mr. Jolly for having the skills and the desire to undertake this.

Anyone else?

I would just like to commend Mr. Jolly for taking the steps to not only bring it into the city, but also to work with staff to create a PUD and make it so that it is preserved for years to come. There's been a lot of speculation as to what would happen on Shelton Mill regarding this property and to know that it will be preserved. I think Dr. Pearson would be very proud and know that her efforts are being fulfilled, and I appreciate that. Thank you.

I'd like to echo those sentiments as well. I'm pleased to hear that you're going to include the historical marker. I'm presuming that is staying. That's wonderful and I appreciate the thoughtfulness that you're putting into this work.

Absolutely. Thank you for your investment in Auburn, Mr. Jolly. It's very refreshing to see somebody that wants to participate in historical preservation as well as preservation of our natural resources.

Okay. With roll call. Lindsay.

Yes. Yes.

Yes.

Yes, ma'am.

Yes, ma'am.

Yes, ma'am. Yes.

Yes.

Item 92 is a request to apply the plan unit development designation on approximately 54.07 acres of property located on the west side of Shelton Mill Road across from Pearson Park that is currently zoned Comprehensive Development District. This area is known as the Noble Hall Core property. The Planning Commission unanimously recommended approval of this request at its May 14th meeting. Unanimous consent is necessary and a public hearing is required.

I'll introduce the ordinance and ask for unanimous consent.

Second. I have a motion and a second. Seeing none of the council have a problem moving forward with the vote on this this evening. Seeing and hearing none, we'll open the public hearing. If you'd like to address the council, please come forward and give us your name and address for the record. And you have five minutes to speak to the council.

Warren, do you need the presentation back up?

Yeah, if you don't mind, the house will be good.

Where we left off?

Where the site plan was. Mr. Mayor, members of council, again, Warren Jolly. You know, I don't know if anything question-wise, this is the main focus of what everybody wanted to happen with this property is restoring the house and the properties. And there's a little site plan, Megan, right before that. Yeah, he'll take it back. He's got it up there. Hold on a second. One more. So we're keeping all the existing buildings, and they'll be also improved. The house to the far left is a Guthrie house, which is actually older. than the Noble Hall. And so, but our main focus is to get started immediately because as you mentioned, you know, everybody's been wanting to see what's gonna happen in this house. So this actually is a great, process that we went through with the Auburn University Foundation because everyone is very visible and clear what's going on. If we would have gone out there and started on that house, you guys would have gotten 100 phone calls and nobody would know what's going on. So, I mean, it's kind of good that we end up having to zone this for the clarity for everybody to know what's going on. If you have any other questions, I'm here to answer. Thank you.

Thank you, Warren. Thank you.

Mr. Jolly, I know we just made some amendments to the ordinance regarding hunting. Two questions. One may be to City Manager for clarification. There's a stipulation for 20 acres or more and then 100 acres. There's differences. Because these are two separate PUDs, is it a combined that equals over 100 or is it? 54 acres means that it falls to the 20 acreage stipulations. Do you follow my question?

I think you could because both of these are under the same PUD regulations, the governing conditions which allow hunting on the property per the zoning ordinance. You could view these as a more than 100 acre parcel collectively.

Okay.

So, and that really only affects a very specific type of stalk hunting on the property, which is in my understanding and conversation with Mr. Jolly is not the intent of the hunting on the property.

So Mr. Jolly, would you be, um, amenable to, um, a further restriction under the PUD that would keep it to the requirements that are not the hundred acre, but the 20 acre requirements.

I don't know what the exact changes are, but we don't plan to do any stock hunting at all. So, um, we don't plan to do any rifle hunting, um, at all. So I don't have the full word minutes, but, um, and if we do, we have a hunting plantation union Springs that we hunt. So it's just, sometimes there are nuisance. There are things that go on on your property and you would, um, And we do have the right currently on most of the property in Lee County. We just would like to keep that right if possible. But rifle hunting could be pulled out of it, just bow hunting. I don't know how the ordinance is written, but we would never be stalk hunting and that kind of stuff.

Mayor Pro Tem Whitten, based on just some previous conversations with Mr. Jolly, we could say hunting on the property shall be limited to the use and or discharge of bow and arrows and air rifles, period, which then would eliminate probably some of the other concerns.

We would be fine with that. Okay. All right.

And it would then further say the use and or discharge of all other weapons, including those specifically identified in section 13 dash four of the code of the city of Auburn shall be prohibited. You could add that to the governing conditions of this one and the next PUD. If that satisfies, I don't know if you're still concerned about the acreage from there. If you change the type of weapon.

Yeah, I just, um, there was just a difference in what was allowed in the two and I was just going with the more restrictive understood.

Yeah. This, I didn't know if that was getting at what you wanted or not.

I'm comfortable with Mr. Jolly offering what he's offered to, to just to have bow hunting and air rifles. I'm comfortable with that.

I don't know how the rest of the council feels, but you're willing to give up the shotgun use.

I'm fine giving up shotgun use. Okay.

Mayor, the way you could do it is.

Unless you can have the home protection.

Once you close the public hearing, we could deal with a potential amendment to the governing conditions.

We'll get the administration done. All right. Thank you, Mr.

Chair. Thank you.

Anyone else? We'll close the public hearing. comments or questions for the city manager before we start working on this administrative piece here. Okay. Ms. Crouch, how do we need to handle this?

So what you would do is, when I walk you through this, Mayor, if you're willing to entertain this motion, somebody can just say, so move, so you don't have to reiterate it 48 times, and I'll read it back to you a second time. So if you're, as the chair, willing to entertain a motion to add governing condition number eight, that hunting on the property shall be limited to the use and or discharge of of bows and air rifles. Let me say bow and arrows and air rifles. The use and or discharge of all other weapons, including those specifically identified in Section 13-4 of the Code of the City of Auburn, shall be prohibited.

So moved.

Second. Perfect.

Is that a voice vote?

So it's been moved and seconded that you want me to reiterate the condition or is everybody good? I think we're fine. Okay.

I think we're good. Discussion. Yeah, you've got to have discussion. Okay. Any discussion? Questions or discussion?

I'm just curious. Does bow hunting or does the bow also apply crossbow?

No, crossbows are dealt with separately in the hunting ordinance. So it would just be bow, a traditional bow, compound bow, but not a crossbow.

Okay.

Good thing Paul hunts because, yeah, they're good.

Okay. No other questions. So voice vote. Yes. On the amendment. On the amendment. All right. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? All right. And the amendment carries.

Now we need to do a roll call for the... Any other discussion on the motion as amended with the amended condition?

Okay. All right. So we'll vote on this amended ordinance, right?

You're voting to approve a PUD with the addition of a governing condition about the types of weapons.

Everybody comfortable with this? Okay. With the roll call, Lindsay.

Adams?

Yes.

Hoblentz? Yes, ma'am. Dawson?

Yes, ma'am.

Griswold? Yes, ma'am. Norman? Yes, ma'am. Arsons? Yes. Whitten? Yes. And?

Yes.

Item 93 is a request to apply the plan unit development designation on approximately 64.29 acres of property located on the west side of Shelton Mill Road and south of Bridalwood Drive that is currently zoned Comprehensive Development District. This area is known as the Noble Hall Easement property. The Planning Commission unanimously recommended approval of this request at its May 14th meeting. A public hearing or unanimous consent is necessary and a public hearing is required.

I'll introduce the ordinance and ask for unanimous consent.

Second. The motion is second. Does anyone on the council have a problem moving forward with a vote on this this evening? Seeing none, I'll open the public hearing. If you'd like to address the City Council, please come forward and give us your name and address for the record. You have five minutes to speak to the Council.

Again, Mayor, members of the Council, Warren Jolly, we request the same approval as you just did with the same conditions that you modified with the hunting rights on this property. As we mentioned earlier, there's only two homes allowed on the 64 acres, and that would be One of the existing houses would have to be a guest house in that case. This does have a conservation easement on it. Very limited what can be done with it as a small lake that we have the right under the easement to improve and enhance. Other than that, this will be pretty much probably not much done as property, but it's in pretty bad shape timber-wise. It needs to be cleaned up, and we plan on making it look a lot better. So that's it. Thank you.

Okay. Thank you.

Thank you.

Anyone else like to speak? Okay, we'll close the public hearing. Any comments, questions from the council?

We just would need to amend to add governing condition number eight as we did in the last PUD, correct?

Yeah, number eight, that hunting on property shall be limited to the use and or discharge of bows and air rifles, the use and or discharge of all other weapons, including those specifically identified in section 13-4 of the Code of the City of Auburn shall be prohibited.

I move. Second. All right, any questions, follow-up questions on that?

Did you get a second on that, Bob?

Yes, I did. Yeah, me and Bob did. Okay. Okay, any questions? All right, all in favor of the amendment, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? All right, the amendment carries. This time we'll vote on the amended PUD. If there's no further discussion. No, any further discussion? I made an assumption there. Okay, Lindsay with the roll call.

Oblentz?

Yes, ma'am.

Dawson?

Yes, ma'am.

Yes, ma'am.

Norman.

Yes, ma'am.

Parsons.

Yes.

Yes. Adams. Yes. Anders.

Yes. Megan, before we move on, I just want to say to Mr. Jolly, thank you. You've made quite a difference in our community over the recent years, and I appreciate you working with us as this PUD, these PUD zoning opportunities came before us. You were the guinea pig, and I appreciate your patience and willingness to work with the staff. Megan, I want to say thank you to the staff. I firmly believe coming up with these ideas with what a plan unit development can mean to our community will allow us to do unique and different environments and all of our either residential commercial won't look the same anymore and we give our developers opportunity to be creative and think outside the box and I believe that's gonna be a great thing for Auburn so I applaud you and your staff for working hard I know that's took a lot of time to put that together so I appreciate everybody's willingness all right moving forward resolutions

Item 10A1 is a request for conditional use approval of an expansion to an industrial use located at 229 Teague Court in the Industrial Zoning District. The project is known as 229 Teague Court Industrial Expansion. The Planning Commission unanimously recommended approval of this request at its June 11th meeting. A public hearing is required.

Move approval. Second.

I have a motion and a second. At this time, I'll open the public hearing. If you'd like to address the City Council, please come forward and give us your name and address. For the record, you'll have five minutes to speak to the Council. Okay, seeing no one, we'll close the public hearing. Any questions from the council? Okay, all in favor, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? And the motion carries.

Item 10A2 is a request for conditional use approval of a commercial and entertainment use, a fitness studio located at 237 North Gay Street in the Urban Core Zoning District. This project is known as Bash Performer Pilates. The Planning Commission unanimously recommended approval of this request at its June 11th meeting. A public hearing is required.

Move for approval.

Second. I have a motion and a second. I'll open the public hearing. If you'd like to address the council, please come forward and give us your name and address. For the record, you have five minutes to speak to the council. We'll close the public hearing. Any comments or questions from the council?

What is currently or what has been in that?

It's the building right behind the depot across the railroad tracks.

Oh, okay.

Any other questions?

Yeah, I have one. Please. The chart showing the extent of the property covers multiple addresses, you know, besides the 241. Is the 241, the Pilates going to be just in that one building or what will become of the other structures on that property?

Yeah, so the other addresses are already, it's kind of a hodgepodge of office back there, but the Batch Pilates will only be in 241. And so it's kind of the extent of that entire building, it's that entire space. There should be a floor plan associated with it, and it's going to take up the entire floor plan of that building. Okay.

And all the red cross-hatching or parking spaces? Yes.

Yes, and so that was kind of showing what they've had approved. They have an active lease agreement with CSX to have those parking spaces, and so that's kind of how that arrangement has been working out their parking, independently of something that they provided at the request of staff to show kind of what their parking plan was.

Okay. Thank you. Any other questions? All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? And the motion carries.

Item 10A3 is a request for conditional use approval of an institutional use of church located on North College Street across from Pine Hills Avenue in the Development District Housing Zoning District. This project is known as Christ Presbyterian Church. The Planning Commission unanimously recommended approval of this request at its June 11th meeting. A public hearing is required.

Move for approval. Second. I have a motion and a second. This time I'll open the public hearing. If you'd like to address the council, please come forward and give us your name and address for the record. And you have five minutes to speak to the council. Okay, I see no one. We'll close the public hearing. Any comments or questions from the dais?

Is this the property that's being cleared currently? Is there some clearing already happening on this property?

It's adjacent to the Catholic Church, correct? Huh?

I don't recall another Catholic Church is clearing their property.

But it is adjacent to that.

It's adjacent to this property. I don't think that they've started clearing on this property yet.

Okay. I just saw some fresh movement. I know the Catholic church had their parking lot area done. And then I noticed that there was additional fresh dirt moved. Is that Michael?

Yes, ma'am. Currently there are mobilized on site at the Catholic church, um, demoing basically for their site plan. Um, but nothing at this point in time that I'm aware of.

Yeah, it just, the property's about right there and it, because there's a tree line of the front, it's hard to tell the difference.

And we anticipate, I mean, so this would be basically the third faith-based establishment on North College, and do they have a plan, because right now, do they have a plan for when services are held and are we, do we know what type of schedule they'll have for their services? Because the Catholic Church already has to have public safety out to stop traffic on North College when they have services. Do we know what their plans are?

We're back to a couple of things. Just clarify when public safety is out, that means the church is paying for it. Sure. Not taxpayers. That's overtime work and work that is voluntary that is signed up for because you have a church further north in Ward 3 that also has that. I've had the privilege of driving down right at the wrong time on on sunday morning so i hit all of it um and so there is that turn lanes and other things that were required as is customary but the the city under certain parameters when we do have either officers or private security directing they have to be under the direction of of our police department which also means that they are under strict as we've dealt with in with churches and other wards instructions about how many cars can be held up on the main before you need to let other traffic go. So we'll have public safety working, handling on that. But I'm not sure there's a plan in place in the moment, Michael.

No, ma'am. There's not a current plan in place at this point in time, but we will request a TIS as part of the development process.

Yes, you'll have the traffic impact study just to make sure they're doing the usual.

And as it currently stands, the request is just for a church and not for a school to be attached to it?

I'm only aware of the church at this point, Tom.

Yeah, that was a question during the pre-app, and they did not say that they had any intent to operate a school. I think they had, obviously, places for children's church, but like I said, that's not a school with an operation for grades with the intent to expand.

So no.

So no impact on school zones. I mean, it's already practically a school zone the whole way anyway, but no further impact.

No. Okay.

And if they were to decide with growth and so forth that they wanted to add that, that would come back for a conditional?

That is correct. Yeah, that'd have to be separate.

Okay. Thank you.

Any other questions? All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Aye. And the motion carries.

Item 10A4 is a request for conditional use approval of a commercial entertainment use of Condotel for property located at 211 South Gay Street in the Urban Core Zoning District. The project is known as the Collegiate Condotel. The Planning Commission recommended approval of this project by a vote of 8-1 at its June 11th meeting. A public hearing is required.

Move for approval. Second. I have a motion and a second. This time I'll open the public hearing. If you'd like to address the City Council, please come forward and give us your name and address for the record, and you have five minutes to speak to the Council.

Hello, everyone.

I'm Kim Worth. 211 South Gay Street and I'm going to say a few words and then Megan's going to jump in. I was coming here originally to talk and ask for the conditional use approval but I have had a meeting today at one o'clock with the city planners and they had mentioned to us as a last little minute fact here that we're not going to be able to ask for the conditional use approval today because Our property, which we live in in the White House is what we call it, and the hotel are actually two separate properties. A lot of people don't realize that. So they're not one development. So there's some details that we need to work out because they are two separate properties and some, Megan's going to do a much better job of explaining this, so I don't want to waste my time on that. But we're very optimistic. We spoke with them today. We'll get the details worked out. Basically, we aren't able to get a signed contract for the 12 spaces we need to do to move forward with this. They're going to be displaced at the hotel. But we have plans in place to make that happen. And so we look forward to coming back at the July 7th meeting. However, as most of you know, there's only a short period of time that we can all take vacation. And I'm taking vacation July 7th because we'll be back at it. So I did want to just come and talk to the council in person, Brian and I here today, to tell you about the project. What it really boils down to, this is a really good project for that corner. Not many people have an opportunity to have businesses in Auburn to live in downtown Auburn and control what happens in downtown Auburn. And that's something that we take seriously as a responsibility because we do have that opportunity. We've had great success, again, thanks to the council and mayor's support when we built the Collegian Hotel. But the fact remains that adding 300 hotel rooms in downtown Auburn has significantly impacted our business. And my dream and hope is always to keep the Collegiate Hotel like it is. And in order to do that, I have to find another use for our current home and residence. And doing that will allow me to fund the collegiate in a way that will be sustainable, even though we are feeling the pressures of having additional hotel rooms downtown. But we frankly don't see additional traffic. We're all kind of fighting for the same people. But that's part of running a business. And so we try to get creative and figure out the next steps. It was never our intention or plan to develop the property next door because I love living on one level, not having to walk upstairs with my knees. But the reality is there's a 700-room hotel, I mean, a dorm going across the street, and I'm not really keen on living across from 700 kids at this point in the same way that I do now. So the idea is that we would turn that into a condo tale, if you're not familiar with that idea. It's basically we run it as a hotel room, which means no Airbnb, no VRBO, We re we control the HOA and we have very strict things. We've already worked on our HOA. There's going to be no, this is not a multifamily unit. This is not, um, you know, for them to rent out, there's no subleasing happening. They own it. And then, you know, it'll probably, it's going to be people's second residences. And so when they're not using it, we manage the rental of it as a hotel room, which means we're going to be able to add additional jobs to the community through housekeeping maintenance. landscaping, things like that. So at the end of the day, it's not what I had ever envisioned would happen eight years ago, but here we are and I'm excited about it. But I do want to let you guys know that If anybody thinks about parking on this council, I think about it 10 times more. And I know that it's a hot button issue. And, you know, when I think about all the things that I've got on our plate running the businesses, parking doesn't even come in the top 10. Because we have a plan in place and we manage it and we would not be successful for eight years if we didn't have plenty of parking for our guests. So that's why I'm confident that we'll get this issue resolved and we already have a plan in place and it'll be a great project and it'll be something that the city can be proud of. I don't know if y'all have seen the schematics. It's going to be beautiful. It's not a temporary wood structure. This is something that's meant to be in Auburn and look really nice for, and people can be proud of walking by and be proud of it being part of the community. So I'm happy to entertain any questions, but again, I won't be here on the seventh. And so I did want you guys to have opportunity to ask Brian or any questions and just let you guys know that we look forward to moving forward after that.

Thank you. Thank you for your comments. Miss word. Anyone else? City Manager, is there anything for us?

correct um i'll have paul clark go over we were a little bit on the ins and outs and i appreciate the pivot with the worst they did not know anything about the challenge with this that was we encountered this last night as i was working through parking questions received by a number of members of the city council about the condo tell itself there is an unintended consequence with the way the property is arranged the worst have always owned both pieces but they're not combined and it causes a a nuance that makes it challenging to move forward just for the moment with a conditional use approval. So I'll have Paul go over that. I appreciate their willingness to meet with us. Wanted to talk to them today before we got to this meeting, but we had a little bit of a challenge where we couldn't advise you to move forward at this time. But I want to be Very straightforward, and in our communication with the worst today, there is a clear path forward that will be worked on immediately, and I will commit the staff resources, in fairness to the worst, and they need to go on their trip as they plan that we will work this out. They've already given us a lot of information, and so I'll have Paul go over what the why is, and we'll be happy to answer questions, but this isn't something that the applicant didn't work on it was not pointed out to them that they needed to work on this until 1 p.m today and so i appreciate their indulgence in a slight pause that needs to happen so that we can get something corrected so that it can move forward paul very briefly in reviewing the parking requirements for the condo tell and the way that the collegiate hotel is currently parked

Many of you will remember when the collegiate hotel was originally approved, there was a waiver, a parking waiver granted, and there are 21 shared spaces that are on the new condo hotel property or would be on the condo hotel property if approved. that are used at by the collegiate hotel. And because of the effect of the approval of a conditional use for a condo hotel on that property, our zoning ordinance would not allow the council to successfully consider that request for a conditional use on the condo hotel property without addressing those 21 parking spaces. And as the city manager and Ms. Worth have said, we believe that there is certainly a path forward to resolving this issue within a short timeframe. I believe that, uh, Ms. Wirth has already commented that she would like this to be moved until the July 7th meeting, which is three weeks from today's date. We feel that between the city attorney's office and the planning department and cooperating with the Wirths that this resolution can be had within that period of time and the council can fully consider the conditional use for approval at the July 7th meeting.

Yeah, I think the focal point leading up to this was about the condo tell itself and double checking things. We realized there's one other issue that we were unaware of, that it was unintentionally. There's an unintended consequence by one versus the other. And again, no intent on the part of the worse to not comply. They have worked handily with us. For prior to eight years, I mean, to get the whole coho together, and this is just to make sure everything is tracking legally and that there aren't problems down the road for them from anything that they're trying to move forward with. So we want to get this right when you – consider it for full approval. So the request would be to postpone to the July 7th meeting. That's the very next council meeting we have. We're in one of the weird months where your first meeting of this month was very early in the month. So we have a three-weeker in between, which the staff loves, where we get a one-week hiatus of some extra time. And so that gives us plenty of time. Meanwhile, the worst will be in communication with us, even if they are on vacation, about anything that is needed that is not resolved prior to their departure. We've Talked about all that this afternoon.

Okay. All right. Any questions from the council for the city manager or I guess potentially even for Ms. Worth? Any questions? Okay. So how do we need to handle this administratively?

Somebody needs to move to postpone to July 7th.

Okay.

I'd like to move to postpone this item to July 7th so that we can work on the parking situation.

And may I recommend that you consider reopening or keeping the public hearing or reopening the public hearing in that meeting so it gives the applicant the opportunity to speak or their representative because they will be out of the country.

Is that okay? I'd like to add an additional public hearing on the 7th of July. Second.

All right, we have a motion to second and postpone to July the 7th with the opportunity to have a public hearing on July the 7th. We have a motion to second. Any further questions on that? All right, so all in favor on the motion to postpone, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? And that motion carries. Now we need to vote on that. No, that's it. You're postponed to July 7th. All right.

And I do want to reiterate in that we discussed their preferences, and they will nod that we do this on July 7th, even though they know they're going to be gone. They will have representatives here that they are comfortable with that can answer questions if needed. We're trying to make sure that we meet their deadlines in this slight pause.

Okay. Mr. Mayor, please.

Yeah, I'd also like the staff to take a look at a couple other things while they're reviewing all that. I mean, it's not Airbnb or VRBO, but basically it is a short-term rental by another name. If it's not a permanent residence, it can be rented out for a period of time. And short-term rentals are allowed there. That's not a problem. But I don't want to mislead anybody to think that it's not going to be that. And the other thing I think about is the height of the structure. Technically, from what justice has told me, it's allowable. But by the time they take the grade into account and the parapet, it's approaching 100 feet. And we really struggled with just the 75-foot limit once upon a time Obviously, we lost that fight, but I did. But I think it's going to be very much out of character. It's going to overwhelm the other structures in the area. So if it's possible to take a look at that design and get it down to a more reasonable height, I appreciate it if the staff would take a look at that. Thank you.

Well, we'll gladly look at it. It is meeting the ordinance or it wouldn't, wouldn't be before you in terms of, I agree.

It's technically meeting the ordinance, but certainly not meeting the spirit of the ordinance.

And so the, we can talk about it on July 7th, but for a quick brief for the council, you measure height at the highest point on grade. And this, the gay street side is much taller than the Armstrong street side. In essence, it's not full Armstrong street, but it's the backside of the, of the property. And that causes a differential.

Yeah, that's correct. In addition to parapets and other aesthetic aspects of buildings in these areas do not count against the height limit. And then also mechanical additions to the building, which, like I said, due to The number of floors, the type of elevator needed has an actual mechanical shaft of about 17 feet that would kind of sit on top of the roof of this as well. So even though it meets the ordinance, there are aspects of the building that are going to exceed that also that do comply with the ordinance. It's not a workaround. It is not something illegal that we miss. It is just aspects of the ordinance that do allow the building to does comply with it and also measured from the highest grade so it shaves them off it's not going to be 75 feet from where you're standing i guess and we'll be happy to sit down councilman griswold and run through that also the downtown design review committee did review this project That is correct. There will be an additional meeting to clean up some aspects on the ground floor, but the overall meeting went very, very well. That's not uncommon that people have to go back for some nuances. Sometimes there's a total rejection of people's submissions, and that was not the case. There was a lot of positive discussion. That said, I think very minute tweaks that they'll have to satisfy at the DDRC before moving forward with DRT. But they're aware of that, and like I said, I think that is something that is not uncommon. That's something that we work through frequently.

I would like to thank the Wirths for their continued investment in Auburn and their willingness to pivot with us here. I actually appreciate the... aesthetic value of the product that they brought forth. I think when we look at folks that are willing to invest in downtown Auburn and build structures that we wish, well, I'll speak for myself, I wish more of them looked like this. So we appreciate you guys for investing and trying to trying to make or keep our downtown special. Thank you.

And also just to the condo hotel regulations, they came about in the late 90s or so with the game day condominiums behind Mama Goldberg's and sit on both sides of the street because this is a concept to make it a hotel slash a condominium thing. We just haven't invoked these in a while. Tiger Suites were approved that way. And so something before we ever discussed short-term rentals, that's part of the reason why we have these regulations in our regulations ordinance the other question i've received is is this part of the moratorium and the answer is no because it's a condo tell which functions more like a hotel but it is a confusing ownership style and it is akin it's just as as kimworth was saying the hotel manages it when the owners are not utilizing it and so that's kind of a key difference it's rented out through a central desk as opposed to VRBO and Airbnb and all of that. But we can talk about that on the 7th gladly.

Megan, do we know what the height is going to be on the dorm that will be built across the street?

On the dorm building, we would have to get that to you. I don't even want to guess. We can give you the height, though, of the other buildings on the property. We'll be glad to provide that to the council. We've got that in a file.

I'll get that to you later this week.

The Laurel is pretty tall.

The dorm across the street, are they subject to the same –

No, they are not. It's on university property. So it could be higher. It can be as high as they want to make it. Yes. And our fire truck reaches. Yeah. But we'll be glad to get you some other information.

Okay. All right. I just want to second what Tyler said also. And, I mean, this would possibly be the third business that the worst have invested in our downtown between the Coho and Stacks and possibly this. So invested heavily in our downtown. We're very appreciative of the projects that y'all do and the businesses you run and what you contribute to Auburn.

And bless you for living downtown. Yes, that's true. So are you ready for the next item, Mayor?

Yep, number five.

Item 10 a five is a request for conditional use approval of an industrial use manufacturing for property located at the intersection of Biltmore lane and Haygood court in the industrial zoning district, which is out off of out in west Auburn near tech park. West project is known as Kettenwolf. Um, you've done tax abatements and other things for them. The planning commission unanimously recommended approval of this request. It's June 11th meeting. A public hearing is required.

Move for approval. Second. All right. I have a motion to second this time. We'll open the public here. If you'd like to address the city council. About this, please come forward and give us your name and address for the record. And you have five minutes. Seeing no one, we'll close the public hearing. Any comments or questions from the council? All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? And the motion carries.

Item 10A6 is a request for conditional use approval of a road service use of car wash located at 2865 East University Drive in the Comprehensive Development District Zoning District. The project is known as New Day Car Wash. The Planning Commission unanimously recommended approval of this request at its June 11th meeting. A public hearing is required.

Move for approval.

Second. I have a motion to second. This time we'll have a public hearing. If you'd like to address the council, please come forward and give us your name and address for the record. And you have five minutes to speak to the council. We'll close the public hearing. Any comments? Questions?

Yes. Is the applicant present?

The representative? Okay.

I was just curious about the orientation of the vacuums to...

main thoroughfare of each university and not to the back of the property um is there any insight that we can be provided on that yes so this was a point of discussion just kind of with the applicant they they insisted on kind of this orientation and i think staff's that's position was from a cladding standpoint, the building has to be cladded regardless, just kind of due to 429 kind of being fronted on.

Or corridor overlay regulations.

Yeah, corridor overlay regulations on EUD. But they were adamant that kind of their business model relies on, you know, kind of showcasing the vacuums. And so staff's position on that was if it's going to front the street, then it needs to be cladded. And so they worked with their supplier kind of from the vacuum side to come up with a prototype that would allow them to clad the vacuum structures. But this was a question that was put up to Planning Commission that if that deal was not sufficient for them and that they would prefer for the building to be oriented towards the street, then that was something that was certainly on the table. So we've got to make that clear. So the only real caveat really was that whatever they had facing towards the street needed to be cladded since it was subject to our corridor overlay regulations. Like I said, this was something that they insisted on from an orientation side. And I think staff's position was, since this is elevated from the road, there's also going to be a significant, I guess, tree buffer that's kind of in between, even though the canopy oven, the foliage is going to be a lot, it might be visible, but it's not on street level. It's just kind of from the grades, the sewer easement, it's really far back. kind of from a visibility standpoint. It's kind of our position on it, but it was something from the orientation side that the applicant did push for.

And there's an entrance... Off of, they're both entrances or exits are off of private streets? That is correct. Okay. But the drawings that we've been provided, the vacuums are bays. So you're suggesting that there will be some cladding that would be required for those?

Oh, they definitely will be required. And so, like I said, it was something where they had to go to their maker of these booms, request a custom-made prototype, for that the cladding and I guess it's unfortunate they're not here that that way they can explain it but it's kind of the bottom portion of it going to be brick the entire way I think a lot of it and in other areas to have you know the baskets on it to have everything in it all of that is going to be brick to the to the top and the only part that isn't going to be brick is just going to be kind of the actual vacuum apparatus type justice you have drawings of that though yet is this something that has been submitted to staff

Well, no, I mean, we can share it. You guys have choices. You can do whichever. I just, you're asking questions and I don't know if we've provided you with what you need.

I'm very curious to see a vacuum that someone wants to highlight.

Right, so we may not be prepared to show that on the fly. I didn't know if they had submitted it yet.

But it is a condition of the – Absolutely. So if we were to approve it as it's presented, then you still have some assurances that the cladding and so forth is – Oh, I have full assurances.

Yeah, yeah, that's – But just please define vacuum cladding. That has been something that they have agreed to.

I don't think we've ever heard of clad vacuums before.

Neither have they, and like I said, they agreed to it.

Okay. And any additional? Okay, that's fine. Thank you.

Any other questions? Yes. Yes, please.

Okay, it's a private road, and right now it fronts two separate buildings. Who owns the private road?

It's part of that development of the Cary Crossing development.

So who's going to be responsible for maintaining that road?

Not the city.

Who is?

We couldn't speak to that.

Cary Crossing LLC.

Right, that's what I'm saying. It would be on their HOA or their property owners association, however they set that up.

Okay, and what's the extent of the trees that are going to be remaining between there and University Drive?

So there is a really big sewer easement kind of in between in between EUD and this property and so this so where the actual or in the site where the Building and the parking lot is all cited is behind that and so it's about 20-30 feet wide and like I said It's gonna be about 15 feet 15 to 20 feet above kind of EUD and so there's trees there that are gonna be that are gonna stay they're not gonna be clear-cut and then there's also a significant landscaping Requirement as well that they're also going to shield some of these things that things also.

Okay, and finally Since it's gonna be up there. You said it's gonna be visible, but not very visible apparently so we're what about signage How are people gonna know this thing is there?

Yes, so don't be Yeah, so Yeah, so they'll still only have on-site signage. It'll be the building that I think they'll possibly have a monument sign. But like I said, I think it's, you'll be able to see it a little bit. You'll know it's there. But it's, like I said, it's not going to be the jarring, you know, masquerading that I think people see with some of our other developments in town where all the trees are cut down kind of deal.

I think to your point, Kelly, the monument sign is a good distance back from the road because the driveway is so wide right there, plus the easements. If you look at the lot lines, I think it's part of what you're, asking. I mean, it's quite massive. It sits way back.

You got that stop sign right there. Or the stop light, rather. So how... So there's not going to be signers down on University? No.

No. Off-premise signs are not allowed in the city of Auburn.

No, they're not going to be able to put one because also the right-of-way is large and they're not allowed on the right-of-way. It will be further back onto the property. The freestanding sign they're showing, and again, I don't have my magnifying glass out, is closer to the building supply side.

Okay, thank you. There's not any new curb cuts on East University with this, is there? No.

Those are existing drives. The stoplight is on one side that goes across the Publix, and then the driveway closest to Russell is on the other side. It's like a triangular piece. Very fine. Thank you.

Anyone else? Okay. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion gears.

All right. Item 10A7 is a request for conditional use approval of an industrial use manufacturing located at 3100 Haygood Court in the Industrial Zoning District. Project is known as Sohon Plant 3. Planning Commission unanimously recommended approval of this request at its June 11th meeting. Public hearing is required.

Move approval. Second.

Motion is second. At this time, we'll open the public hearing. If you'd like to address the City Council about this, please come forward and give us your name and address for the record. See no one. We'll close the public hearing. Any comments or questions? All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? And the motion carries.

Item 10A8 is a request for conditional use approval of a performance residential use and multiple unit development for property located at 600 Shelton Lane in the Development District Housing Zoning District. Project is known as Shelton Mill Town Homes Phase 5. The Planning Commission unanimously recommended approval of this request as June 11th meeting. A public hearing is required.

Move for approval.

Second. Motion is second. At this time, we'll open the public hearing. If you'd like to address the council, please come forward and give us your name and address for the record. Okay, we'll close the public hearing. Any questions or comments from the council?

There are already existing townhomes, this product. This is just, they're renovating? That is correct.

So as the applicant put it, these have served their useful life, and this is essentially just modifying what they already have, like modernizing what they already have.

This is a reduction, isn't it?

Yes, slightly. And so there was the MUD, that was the garden style MUD that was approved last year. It's kind of in tandem with this. And this is actually an improvement. We're going to get sidewalk. They're going to get rid of the continuous kind of curb cut that they have. So yeah, staff used this as a redevelopment improvement.

The structures stay there. They're just renovating the exterior as well?

No, no, no, no. This is going to be completely torn down and rebuilt. Got it.

They're going to look a lot nicer, it looks like.

I know, I'm sad. That's where I first lived when I moved to Auburn was 560 Shelton.

Yeah, I think that came up in our pre-op multiple times. There were people on staff that also, that was the first place they lived before they went to Auburn.

I'm not so sure they weren't the first townhomes built in Auburn.

Yeah, it was pretty limited. I mean, it's thankful that it's being done because I think they are past their prime. Okay.

Okay. Any other questions?

All right.

Now motion second. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? And the motion carries.

Item 10B1, a sense to the vacation of a portion of a sanitary sewer easement located at 395 Martin Avenue. A public hearing is required.

Move for approval.

Second.

Motion is second. We'll open the public hearing. If you'd like to address the council, please come forward and give us your name and address for the record. Okay. Seeing here, no one. Close the public hearing. Any comments or questions? All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? And the motion carries.

Item 10B2, since the vacation of a portion of a sanitary sewer easement located at 419 West Veterans Boulevard, a public hearing is required.

Move for approval.

Second.

Motion is second. We'll open the public hearing. If you'd like to address the council, please come forward and give us your name and address for the record. All right. We'll close the public hearing. Any comments, questions from the council? All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? And the motion carries.

Item 10C1 authorizes a commercial development agreement with ZMK Auburn LLC for Zozo's Kitchen to be located at 1433 Opelika Road. They will invest approximately $1.9 million and the city will rebate a portion of sales taxes up to $35,000 per year for up to nine years, well, for nine years in a total amount not to exceed $280,000. This is a resolution that is by unanimous consent that's necessary and a public hearing is required.

I'd like to introduce this. Second.

All right. We have a motion to second.

Anybody have trouble with the problem with moving forward?

I haven't done it this way before with the resolutions. Anyone have a problem with moving forward on the vote on this this evening? Okay. Seeing none, any comments or questions?

Mr. Mayor, I'm going to need to recuse myself on this vote. Okay.

One recusal. Anyone else have a question?

Mayor, there's a public hearing.

Public hearing. All right. We'll open the public hearing. If you'd like to address the City Council, please come forward and give us your name and address for the record. I'm sorry I missed that public hearing. Anyone? Okay. We'll close the public hearing. All right. Any questions? Comments? All right. All in favor, please say aye. I'm sorry. You want to say something?

I'm always excited to say something about somewhere new to eat. Yeah.

All right.

This is a bank building that's been vacant for how long, Megan? A very long time. Yeah, many years. It's on Oak Black Road next to the mattress store. Correct.

It's a former Cummins Bank building as a lot of people knew it.

So we're very excited to have them in Auburn.

And Zoe's Kitchen is an offshoot, and Kevin Howard, our commercial development director, can explain better than me of Zoe's Kitchen that we knew that we used to have in the downtown area. They're very excited to be here. We do have a representative here, Kevin.

Thank you. You're getting me out of a lot of trouble. My wife's very excited. We appreciate it.

So is mine.

Yes, this will be centered up in town, and they were very intentional about this location to serve the community as a whole, not just the university and so on. Hope to do a lot of catering. It's part of their core business, and we're excited to have them back.

Yeah, absolutely. Certainly enjoyed eating with your former restaurant downtown. Yeah, so look forward. Thank you for your investment in all of them. All right, any other questions? All right, all in favor, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? And the motion carries.

All right. Hold on. We'll let Councilman Mormon get back here, Mayor, before we go. All right. Item 10C2 authorizes a contract with JLD Enterprises LLC for the West Magnolia Storm and Sewer Replacement Project in the amount of $433,500. Move for approval. Second.

All right.

We have a motion and a second. No public hearing. All right. Any comments or questions from the council?

Yes. So is this considered an emergency repair? I mean, it was, it was discovered during them.

Not anymore. We went, we bid this. So it's not an emergency repair while it is an emergency. It doesn't meet the state law requirements for emergency repair. We did a regular, regular bid on this, but it does need to be repaired in a hurry.

Is there any, how long have we known about this?

We knew about it the day that we had an issue. The university called us. Was that in May, Dan? I do not recall. Yeah, that was April 15th. April 15th. But there was a problem in Magnolia Avenue, and it morphed from there, and that's the one we discussed as a potential emergency repair. But we could not get anybody who felt comfortable that they could tear up Magnolia Avenue and get it covered back up by a soccer game. It turns out it's a good thing we didn't have a gigantic hole in Magnolia for the soccer game, or it would have been a gigantic swimming pool or muddy pond. Yeah.

Okay, and the packet says that the work will be completed within 45 days of contract award? TCMO.

That is accurate. The contract duration for performance is 45 days.

And if we approve this tonight, when will work start?

Work will start as soon as we can execute the paperwork for it. The contractor that was a low bidder is aware of the timeline and is committed to completing it in time. A week, a month? Art. Casual goal, 45 days for contract completion. We really want to see this done by the end of July, to be quite frank.

When does school start again?

Public schools start August 7th. Auburn University classes start the following week.

Okay. So you think we're going to have Magnolia cleaned up before all the students and pedestrian traffic and the 101 crosswalks and all that stuff that are on MAG? That is the intent.

Can't control the weather as we can't control right now, so that's the downside. Do you have something else to add?

Dan just said the pre-con with the contractor is scheduled for tomorrow, so you approved it for tomorrow.

Yeah, we're moving as quick as we can. The mayor and I will execute contracts should you approve this as quickly as possible. Okay, thanks.

Oh, this is not part of the moratorium. This wasn't a result of any of the moratorium study.

Is that right? No, this work is completely unrelated to any of the moratorium studies. This work is a product of the university notifying us and discovering some issues that have to be replaced in short term.

Thanks.

Anyone else? All right. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? All right. Motion carries.

Item 10D concurs with the actions of the Industrial Development Board to utilize Industrial Development Board resources to provide a package of incentives to locate Volcaflex Incorporated on Lot 6 in Auburn Technology Park West, Annex No. 2. The company anticipates hiring 123 employees and investing approximately $37 million. Move for approval.

All right. I have a motion and a second. Any comments, questions?

Mr. Mayor, I'll be abstaining from this vote.

Okay.

All right.

Any further comments, questions? All right. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? And the motion carries.

Item 10E authorizes a tax abatement for VocalFlex Incorporated to be located on Lot 6 in Auburn Technology Park West, Annex 2. The company anticipates hiring 123 employees and investing approximately $37 million. Move approval.

All right.

I have a motion to second. Comments, questions? Mr. Mayor, I'll be abstaining from this one as well. Okay. All right. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? And the motion carries.

And last but certainly not least, Item 10F authorizes the city to implement the City of Auburn Community Development Block Grant 2026 Annual Action Plan and the CDBG Program Year 2026 Funding Recommendations allocated by the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development in an amount of $734,911. Move for approval. Second.

Motion second. Comments, questions? A lot of good work in here.

Absolutely.

All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? And the motion carries.

Mayor, those are all the items of business we have for you this evening.

I'd like to ask, before we go any further, to get on the record, I neglected to abstain from voting on 8C4. I should have pulled it off the consent agenda, but I didn't, so can we do that at this point and say that?

To go back, I think we'll let the record reflect that you are now abstaining from that vote.

Right.

It involves the retirement systems of Alabama.

Yes, we don't need to take any action, though, as counsel right now. Okay. No, our legal counsel is fine with that.

We'll get that on the record, Lindsey.

Okay.

And really, you voted on the consent agenda and not that item in general. But we can just state that you want to make it clear that that's the case. Thank you.

Just before we move forward, I just, I think it's worth remembering what we did tonight. Um, we've got an old antebellum home and the property around it that we've got a developer willing to come in and. totally renovate this house that has had a blue tarp on it for many, many years, uh, and create a beautiful location across the street from a park that the city is invested in, um, to save really one of our most historic structures in our community. We've got two industries that are expanding, um, because their business is good. They believe in Auburn and believe that we're the kind of community, instead of looking for another place to land, another industry, they're expanding here in our community. We've got a family that has bought an old dorm in downtown Auburn, turned it into a hotel, and are now looking to even make a greater investment next door. We've got a restaurant that was here, it's coming back here, taking an old bank building up like a road and creating a new restaurant. And we've got a new company that I think the formal announcement will be tomorrow from Italy that is coming to our community to set up shop. And we've got somebody who's the first developer of townhomes in this community, and they're taking the oldest ones, and they're going to take them all down and build something fresh and new. We're very fortunate in our community that we get to make these kind of decisions and that people want to come and do these kind of projects in our community. We're very fortunate. Thankful. And then at the very end we have, because we're an entitlement city, we, we get money from Washington that we can use for people who need it the most. And, uh, and I certainly appreciate our community services, uh, uh, department as they work with those needs here in our community. This is, this was a long agenda tonight, but it covers a lot of things that I think make Auburn and speaks to why we're great place to live and work. All right. At this time, we'll move towards Citizens Open Forum. If you'd like to address the City Council, please come forward and give us your name and address for the record. You have three minutes to speak to the City Council.

Good evening, Mr. Mayor and ladies and gentlemen of the City Council. My name is Dr. Pierron Francis Pierron. I'm a retiree, moved here about eight, nine years ago. I must say also I have spent 26 years in Southeast Asia and in Africa, and I have quite a bit of experience in Muslim countries. So my concern here, I have a very deep concern about it, the building of a large Islamic center, including a mosque and an education facilities in Auburn. As is, and I did a little bit of research, there's a GoFundMe that's been raised with $25,000 of a half million dollar goal. So there's an urgent question that's arisen. Which organizations will finance the balance? Texas recently, and I'm going to read to you what I've learned. Texas, you might be aware of that, Texas has taken major legal and political actions against CARE, which is the Council on American Islamic Relations. The state officially designated CARE the Foreign Terrorist Organization and subsequently filed a lawsuit seeking to completely ban the group and its affiliates from operating within the state. I'm bringing this up because typically CARE helps and the imam, if they have one, to find financing for a mosque and education center. Here's gonna be a six acre property. You don't buy that with $25,000 or even $500,000. So I think the city should make an effort to learn where the financing comes from. um i have one minute i cannot tell you everything that i know about islam you'll be extremely shocked okay i'm very very concerned of what's going to be taught there that is against the constitution of the united states and against the the law that we live by concerning the role and the position of women in society of girls uh the beating of wives The education that's given, I can go on and on and on. So my approach to you is, can you do something to identify who will be financing that Islamic center? That's it. Thank you very much.

Real quick, Dr. Pierron, we need your address for the record.

I'm sorry, I thought you... I apologize.

Yeah, 1270 East University Drive. Thank you.

Thank you.

That's it.

That's it. Thank you.

All right. Thank you.

Thank you.

May I ask what's going to happen after?

You've asked some questions, and we'll get back with you. How about that? Yep. Yep.

He has a public records request submitted for some information as well, not what he asked for this evening, and I want to make you aware that we're working on that as well. Okay.

Sure. All right. Good. Thank you. Who will be next?

Robert Wilkins, 261 Denson Drive, Auburn, Alabama. Good evening, Mayor and Council. As we celebrate June 10th, excuse me, early this past Saturday, a day that stands for freedom, unity, and equality. I wanted to thank Councilman Connie, even though she's not here, Taylor, for her extraordinary dedication in making this celebration special, along with two members on this council who supported her and all the volunteers who helped make it happen. I also want to thank her for letting me in the parade and hand out free water to everyone at the 92-degree heat at Kiesel Park. Our Constitution is a living promise that protects our freedom and calls everyone of us to step up and do our part. The Founding Fathers were regular people like you and I, such as farmers, merchants, tradesmen, who risked everything so we could govern ourselves. They expected us to protect what they built from the heart. Voting is our most important responsibility. Only one in five people showed up for a local election. We let a small group decide our taxes and our neighborhoods and our future. Today's runoff will likely be in the single digits that I've looked at. The right to vote has earned through real struggle for men, for women with the 19th Amendment, and through the civil rights marches in Selma. In Auburn, there's really no excuse. not to stay informed. You can attend council meetings in person, watch them on YouTube at your convenience, or listen to the radio. We need to vote in every election and stay engaged to stand up for working families and the small town character we love. Running for office is about service, not a career. The founders served and returned to their communities. Right now, we only have the mayor's position and one ward position with two people running, with seven wards having no competition yet. We need good people who truly want to serve with heart, knowledge, and common sense. Leaders who put citizens first. So please, run Forrest, run. From the movie Forrest Gump, every municipal position on the council needs to be contested. It's good for the council, for the citizens, and for the community as a whole. The municipal election is August the 25th, but qualifying to run for city council or mayor ends a week from today on June the 23rd. Now is the time to set it up. Once elected, even if it's me, we must hold our leaders fully accountable for budgets, zoning, spending, and every decision that affects our daily lives. Don't sit on the sidelines. Vote. Study the issues. Support good candidates. And if you feel called, consider running for office. Our neighborhood and our city need your right now. Together, through our active citizenship from the heart, We can honor our Constitution, respect our founders' vision, and build the kind of respect that Auburn and our families deserve for generations to come.

Thank you.

Who will be next?

Okay. We'll call it Citizens Communications. Anyone on the council have anything they'd like to add?

Yes, sir. I share Bob's enthusiasm for the Juneteenth celebration. And I encourage the council, either this council or the next, to formalize that so that we have a city activity recognizing the importance of that particular holiday. Since it's a national holiday now, we ought to have something within the city purview similar to that we have for other national holidays. So again, I don't quite know how we go about doing that. Juneteenth's a wonderful holiday. Event to celebrate but now that it's a national holiday. I hope we all can institutionalize that a bit a bit more instead of having it run just by a Separate corporation. So Okay, that's it.

Anyone else? It's a move to adjourn. So move. We're adjourned