City Commission - workshop

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Yeah, sorry to everybody. I thought this meeting was a six. I just drove from homestead and I think I broke every traffic law not a man All right, uh Madam clerk good to go. Mr. Ernie good to go Commissioner is good to go Mr. Mayor good to go counsel. All right, here we go Notice the public sunshine meeting between city commissioners all interested parties. Please take notice. I a public meeting of two or more city commissioners to discuss the status developments negotiations of the flagler senate district will take place on tuesday july 7 2026 5 p.m in the city hall commission chambers located at 500 south 109 avenue sweetwater florida 33174 this meeting is open to the public in accordance with florida government florida's government in the sunshine law section 286.011 florida statues no formal action will be taken All interested parties are invited to attend and observe. Any person decides to appeal any decision made by the City Commission with respect to any matter considered at such meeting or hearing, such person will need a record of the proceedings and that, for such purpose, he or she may need to ensure that a verbatim record of the proceeding is made, which record includes the testimony and evidence upon which the appeal is to be based. Persons who need accommodation in order to participate In this meeting, you should contact City Clerk Carmen J. Garcia at 305-221-0411 by noon on the day before the meeting in order to request such assistance. Mr. Attorney, is this now legally sufficient to proceed with this meeting? Yes, sir. All right. Mr. Mayor, would you like the floor?

Thank you, Mr. President.

Mr. Chair. Can we pray, please? Absolutely.

Yes, always.

Anybody like to say a prayer? Okay, let's bow our heads. In Jesus' name I pray. Dear Heavenly Father, thank you again for granting us the gift of life, the gift of health, the gift of freedom, and the gift of service. As we serve the residents of the city of Sweetwater as elected officials, please continue to grant the wisdom needed to make the necessary decisions for the betterment of our city, to our commissioners, to our mayor, and our city staff. Please continue to bless our firefighters, our police officers, and the greatest military in the world. Please continue to bless our city staff and the residents in which we serve. In Jesus' name, I will always pray. Amen.

Amen.

Now, we normally don't say the Pledge of Allegiance, but I think we should.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Thank you for that. Mr. Mayor, you have the floor.

Thank you. In the last proceeding that we started to talk about the issues of the agreement of the MDA agreement with Great Properties and so on, the developers, we stated that we were going to look into more negotiations and look into more things and at the same time once we were pretty close that uh we'll get another meeting and this is that meeting so you guys could at least discuss this uh what the offer is that's being presented by the developer also where the city stands on on that offer So what I would like to do, if you allow me, Mr. President, is basically hear from both sides and then so we could ask in this workshop to be able to ask the questions as needed after we put it all on the table. And I think that way it'll be pretty clear and I think it's gonna be a good thing. So with that, I will basically like the, Mr. Attorney? you want to go ahead and describe basically where we were, where we're at, and just briefly go through it. And then I would like, if I can, whoever the lead attorney is going to present. your offer to the city. And then at that point, I'm going to go ahead and discuss the issue and then open it up for you guys to ask all the questions. Obviously, this is what it's for. It's for the questions to be asked here. And then hopefully we could sit down and the lawyers will get together and draw this whole thing up and bring it back and put it before us and move from there. And we should hopefully bring this to a landing sometime very soon. And that's where we're at. So at this point, it's true.

Thank you, Mr. Mayor, Commissioners, Mr. City Attorney, Madam Clerk. So this process really began almost about a year ago when the applications were first filed. And soon thereafter, sometime around October of last year, we had the first reading of the future land use map. the comprehensive map the zoning map and the zoning text amendment there were many uh all these documents needed to be amended uh in all of the major documents of the city in order to provide for this new area that was going to be uh created and this is the the creation is is the project itself During October of 2025, the actual adoption changes to your comp plan and to your flume map were sent up to the state, reason being that given the size and magnitude of this project, it was required for the state to review it. The state also returned that back to us, and so then we proceeded to have the second reading of all those items, those four items. And prior to that, also your Planning and Zoning Board did have an opportunity to opine, which they did. At that time, when those items came back to you, we had the first reading of the master development agreement. And then in February, we had a workshop. Since February till now, and I wanna back up one step. Prior to that coming back to you in second reading and the first reading of the MDA, During the month of December, between the Christmas holidays, the applicant, the attorneys did meet several times to discuss what the framework for this master development agreement might look like and all of the nuts and bolts of it. But nevertheless, it's gone through several iterations. On February 13th, there was a workshop that came before you, and since then, the mayor and the legal team has been meeting with the applicant and we've had a series of negotiations and we're at a point where the applicant is going to be providing their their presentation and and we believe that we're close to coming up to some form of a framework obviously with your input which is very important today in providing your thoughts on what that framework looks like so that's where we are today any commissioners have any questions

I have a question. I was informed that the first reading was not legally sufficient, is that accurate?

The issue with the first reading was that the notice in the format that Florida statutes provides was not given. It requires a certain level of detail, which our notice did not. So for that reason, when it comes back to you, it'll come back for a first reading again.

Okay, and then after first reading, statutorily, past precedents, we would have 10 days before second reading. But because of all the notices, what is the statute reading? What is your legal opinion on when we can have second reading?

So because this is a master development agreement, there's a separate statute that describes how the first and second reading can occur. And one of them could be the local planning agency, that's something that we've discussed. So you could really do the first and second theoretically in one day, if that's what this commission decides.

Does it have to go back to the planning zoning board?

No.

Good. I don't have any other questions. Anybody have any questions?

Mr. Mayor? Can we proceed that? Yeah. Go ahead.

Good afternoon, Mayor, Commissioners. Alejandro Arias, offices at 701 Brickell Avenue. I'm joined this evening by my colleague, Miriam Soler Ramos and Anthony de Uri. We formed part of the applicant's legal team, and we're here to answer any questions you may have. I'm honored to be before you once again, on behalf of Flagler center district project, as we've collectively worked towards making this vision a reality. Uh, we've had many productive meetings with administration and your city attorneys, and we've continued to progress on certain elements for this master development agreement. And we're thankful for the professionalism and dedication of the city and your staff. Now, as part of this process, you've heard way too much from me. I believe this is the 10th time that I've been up here on these projects. So, um, I'll spare you of that. And I'd like to turn this over now to my colleague, Miriam solar Ramos, who spearheaded these discussions with the city attorney, and she can provide a thorough breakdown of the efforts and our latest proposal.

Thank you, Alex. Good evening, Mr. President, Mayor, commissioners, city attorneys, Madam Clerk. It's a pleasure to be before you this evening to give you a high level view of what the points that we're just going to be discussing with regard to the master development agreement. I'm going to be presenting a summary of the agreement with the terms that the owner is prepared to commit to today. I want to make clear in fairness that some of these points have not been agreed to by the administration, but they're here for your consideration. We know you can't vote tonight, but we want to hear all of your comments because they are instructive in how the remaining part of our negotiations will be undertaken. So the Master Development Agreement sets forth a mixed-use project that includes residential, commercial, and industrial uses, as you already know. The number of dwellings that are permitted, the height and intensities will be governed by the zoning regulations, the urban design regulations, and the comprehensive plan, which as Mr. Colbea mentioned, has already been approved by this commission. The maximum density allowed in the master development agreement is 105 dwelling units per acre, which will yield approximately 10,000 persons within the development. The maximum height permitted is 335 feet. and a minimum of 100,000 square feet of non-residential uses is promised. The anticipated breakdown of those non-residential uses are as follows. A 250 key hotel and convention center, 282,000 square feet of general commercial slash retail space, 136,000 square feet of self storage, 247,000 square feet of office use, and 329,000 square feet of institutional uses. The project will be developed in phases in accordance with a conceptual master plan. It's important to highlight the word conceptual. The master plan is intended to be conceptual because it is intended to be flexible and to be modified in accordance with how the markets evolve. That said, at every phase, there will be an administrative site plan review process that will be undertaken where your staff will have the ability to approve, disapprove, provide comments, et cetera. The developer agrees to support the city's efforts to create a community redevelopment agency. It provides a city with the option to lease or purchase up to 100,000 square feet of space for the city's use. And if the city wishes to do that an exercise as the option, there will be a five year period during which a mutually acceptable agreement can be negotiated. It freezes fees with relation to this project. And now regarding transportation specifically, the developer will build all the internal roads within the project. The developer will improve the area from the center line out and receive impact fee credit for those improvements. The city will accept the dedication of rights of way, easements, utilities, including lighting, storm water management, et cetera. And the city will agree to reimburse the developer $8 million received in a transportation grant specific to this property and to this project for site-related work. In 2025 estimate of the value of the transportation improvements is $12,895,000. which is comprised of three main groups. Non-site related intersection improvements valued at approximately $2 million. Non-site related road improvements valued approximately $825,000. Non-site related improvements to 112th Avenue and the bridge valued at $10 million. And of course, these amounts will be confirmed at the time of construction as they might change as time goes on. With regard to impact fee credits, the developer will receive credit for the 905 mobile park units that were previously existed on the property. In addition to the 657 units that have already been built and for which impact fees have already been paid. In addition, the developer will apply for and receive affordable housing waivers as applicable as the project proceeds. And now with regard to parks. The developer will deed to the city a three-acre improved passive linear park, and Mr. Arias is going to be showing some renderings in a minute, to the city with some use restrictions. The value of that park, that particular linear park, is about $29.6 million, according to two appraisals which have been provided. The average of those appraisals yields $7.871 million per acre, and the improvements are approximately $6 million in value, therefore yielding the $29.6 million value of the linear park. In addition, the project is expected, not in addition, including the three acres, the project is expected to provide a minimum of 15 acres of open space in various forms. This does not mean that it's being deeded to the city to be park land owned by the city, but it means that the residents of that project, and frankly any city resident for the majority, will have access to all of these areas. And in the board that Mr. Arias has just put up, you're able to see the different areas that all lend themselves toward open park space that can be used by the residents of the city and by the residents of the site. Specifically, I'm going to point to this chart here that Mr. Arias has just put on the floor, which divides into several pockets the areas that will be available. And I can go through those in detail if you wish. Any value of park concurrency that is not met through the park space being provided will be paid in lieu to the city. And the converse is also true. If there is an overage in park value, then it should be credited to the developer. So with that, I'm going to just walk over here for one moment. Actually, I'm going to lose the microphone to Alex. If you could give me that, the one on the floor. Yeah. and you can follow along with the board. Thank you, thank you so much, Anthony. You can follow along on the board with what it is. So you have a community path and VITA course. It's privately owned but publicly accessible of about one acre. An athletic field and track, which is private but publicly accessible through a public use agreement. This is intended to be a school. As many of you know, many schools, when they're closed, the entire summer during holiday breaks, and after school make their areas available to the community. That's what's envisioned here for about three acres. You have the Civic Plaza, which is privately owned, but again, publicly accessible at about an acre. The Rodriguez Family Central Park is that three acre linear park that will be deeded to the city fully public. The Paseo Linear Park, privately owned, publicly accessible, which is all the Paseo spaces that are being created throughout the uh the site at about four acres and then there's three spaces in the north village two in the north village and one in the south village which we're working on calculating together as you see they come up at about two almost three acres and they're intended for use by each of those communities uh they are there's some security concerns about opening them up so we'd have to work through that but the idea is that they are still spaces that are publicly available for the residents of that community And the corollary to those, as you can see, is on that map. And you can also see that they're distributed throughout the site so that it's easy for people to enjoy them regardless of where they are on the particular site. Thank you, Anthony. So with that, we're happy to answer any questions.

To my colleagues in the commission, would we like to go ahead and dialogue or would we like to listen to the administration's offer? I would recommend listening to the administration's offer, but I'll do whatever you guys ask.

Yes, administration. I have a question to the chair. I want to ask a question. Go ahead, Mr. Vice President. Thank you for coming today and for bringing this presentation. Can you tell me about the $8 million grant reimbursement? What is that?

There was a grant that was secured. I don't know if it was a state or a federal grant that's for this particular project. The idea at the moment is that the grant will be received by the city, and then the developer will provide the city with proof of the improvements, and the city will then reimburse the developer from those monies that were provided for purposes of the improvements to this particular site and the infrastructure around it.

So it's, so it's just a pass through then is what you're saying. Correct. Okay. Thank you. That was my one.

Thank you so much.

Thank you. All right.

So everybody's in agreement with having the administration. All right, Mr. Mayor, the floor.

Thank you. I want to thank you all for an incredible professional presentation and also negotiations. Always trying to find a way so we could get to the next step. So once again, and besides in my administration, also doing the same. So we've come a long way. And as you can see, there's a lot of

things that have been improved drastically.

We went from basically not having any particular green area to now having quite a bit of green area needed to the city and not only did it needed to the city but have an incredible name on a family name which is also very important and to us I think we mentioned it here one of the times that we met up here but besides that the most important thing is that we're basically there with everything that's been said I think that we're very comfortable as to moving forward and I'm wait to hear from my colleagues on this But the agreement, the MDA, is important because you did say something, Miriam, and that for city is very important. It's got to be agreed upon by both sides and in order so we can move forward fast and to the point. So I think that we're pretty much there. There's little things that the attorneys, you have to clean up in writing this agreement. But I would like to see this agreement fully presented upon hearing from them now, and I'll have some input for whatever question they may have. But that agreement needs to be I's dotted, T's crossed. And I think we're all on the same page. So I think it's a good day. We've come a long way. And at this point, I think the ones that will win, tremendously are the citizens of Sweetwater and the ones that are going to live in hopefully an incredibly beautiful area. And I know there's one part that, you know, is consensual that, you know, it could change. But I think that's we're at the point now that we need to harden. what's gonna happen because that's the way all this works with the agreement. So we need to be very clear we're there and I think that everything that's presented is really pretty much in line with what we were asking for. So I think it's a great day once again that we're there. I love the concept. I love the passive part. I love the part that does three acres and that is going to be fully finished and indeed it to the city which was a question of a couple of the commissioners that asked me individually. So what we see there I think It represents exactly what the vision was from the first time that we looked at the that was presented to you commissioners OK a little different, but I think it's also extremely nice the way it is now as far as the the school's concern. I think that's something you have to deal with legally. Our attorneys are going to be there with you and making sure that the ability to to have people come and when and how and for what period and stuff is important so that way you know when and if the same developers there now continues on and develops the whole thing that's awesome but if it doesn't and he sells off whatever pieces to whatever entity that that agreement runs with the land and the covenant. And that's important. And that's what the, I believe the MDA is all about. And that's why moving forward, we want to get this done too, as fast as possible. I'm sure every commissioner here is in the same position, but I just want to make sure once again, that we just work it all out. and make sure everything that's been presented is what it is as also our responsibilities. And the eight mil that was talked about before, it's monies that was worked on by them and to make sure it's a pass through, through the federal government and that money will be given for improvements in the traffic side for what my understanding. Is that correct? Okay. So I think we're in a good place and to, I know there was some questions that was asked to me about the commissioners about transit also on one 12th and moving in with a bridge and so on. Uh, the way the city is viewed it, the minimum is to three lanes. and to tie in with the actual entrance to FIU to do like a little pivot and done and that should work out too in that way and that's something that we discussed in the past and I think that's just a minor situation that can be discussed and put all into the agreement and so on. I hopefully didn't miss any part of it but if we did, I'm sure the commissioners are gonna have their questions. Here you go, Mr. President.

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Any commissioners wishing to go first? Yes. Mr. Saldes, you're up.

Thank you. Now, my question is. Oh, I'm sorry.

Yes, go ahead. Mr. Commissioner, sorry for interrupting you. Mr. President? Yes, sir. Do you mind, one second? Of course. I left something out. On the 100,000 square feet use, I knew I was missing something. On the 100,000 square feet, it's an option that we have in the future, and it's an option. It's one that we'll take, and again, it all depends who will be and who would own that part, or will it be the same people, or will it be others, or if we're in need of or not, or we'll take the funding instead. So that was the only part I think I left out. Am I correct, guys? All right, sorry for the interruption.

No, that's okay. Yeah, Mr. Mayor, is this, I mean, is this gonna be any cost to the city? This project,

at the citizen of the city Sweetwater do we going to get any type of impact to the city of Sweetwater well there is an impact that's why you have impact fees you know it but those impacts are also negotiated through law and and I believe that we have discussed that clearly and you want to explain that a second Dennis So we'll make it clear.

Yes, that's a good question. I know the impact. And also, the question that I really have is, does the citizen of the city of Sweetwater have to put any money? No, on this? I just I know the I know the answer. But go ahead.

Sure. Good evening, Dennis Kerbell from Ackerman. I'm your outside counsel on this. The impact fees, you actually have two forms in your code of addressing the Uh, impacts of the project there's concurrency, which requires them to show, uh, that the infrastructure that's necessary to address their residents, the new residents that they're adding are in place and available at the time. And a large part of the discussion that we'd had, uh, in getting to the three acre park was about parks concurrency. So that's one method. Um, the other part of your code is impact fees where they pay fees. for impacts to kind of the broader network. And state law says basically you can't double dip. So if it's something that you take through concurrency, for example, the park, then you have to give credit for whatever you're getting against the impact fees that would otherwise be assessed for the park. Transportation is a little bit different because most of this is going to be handled through county roads and the county impact fee. you do have a transportation impact fee, and so those credits will be allocated through the city process, but they are providing significant infrastructure improvements to offset the impacts of their development.

Another question that I have, the traffic study. Did you guys already did anything on that traffic study? Last time we had a meeting, it was updated or something like that on that area?

I'll defer to your professional staff, but there was a traffic study, and that's where the improvements were assigned. So that's how it was determined what improvements they were going to need and will be incorporated into the development agreement.

Okay. That's it. I got another one, but I'm going to let my other colleagues do. Go ahead.

Any other commissioners wishing to speak? Mr. Vice President.

Would you be so kind and let us know what is the impact fees and the offsets and all that? Are they consuming all the impact fees with roadside improvements or improvements to the city? Will there be any money that's coming to the city?

So the short answer is for David Ensign, Transportation and parks, the infrastructure that they're providing will address all of the impact fees you i'll explain about the parks there's a there's a nuance to it in a second. David Ensign, You will be receiving impact fees for the general government police fee. I know they have a request that they be able to satisfy that general government police impact fee by providing space, some kind of perhaps an office building or something. Right now, that's simply just an option for the city to consider. At least in our view, it wouldn't be decided. In this agreement, it just says you'll consider accepting that in lieu of payment at the time that it becomes due. The, the nuance on the parks concurrency is they have agreed to limit the scope of their development, uh, based on the size of the bedrooms. So that there's a set number of one bedroom and two bedroom units that lowers the population count that's required by your code. And so based on that limitation. That's how they get to under your formulas, um, that they owe 15 acres of improved parkland. And so that's what they've shown you here. They've shown it to you in three acres. That's fully dedicated to the city. And then several, uh, public private areas that will be, um, was it about 11, eight, 10 acres that will be fully open to the public, but will be owned by them. Um, if they change their unit mix, and go above the population count that they're agreeing to and committing to or will have to commit to in this development agreement, then for whatever is the overage, they will owe you a parks impact fee or a parks concurrency, depending on how much population they add. But if they go with just the development they're showing you, all of the All the infrastructure improvements that they're showing you do for parks and for transportation do address whatever fees you would otherwise get. So you're getting improvements rather than cash. But the cash is supposed to be used for those improvements under state law anyway. I'll leave it there.

Understood, thank you. So hang on, let me just finish my train of thought here. So... Is it their purview that they can change the number of residents in there if it doesn't work out, let's say for some other part of the project? And then they just pay the $276,000 or whatever it is per acre?

So it'll have to go through the development review process because they're going to have to come in and show what changes they're making. And yes, that would be something that they could do. And then by the terms of the agreement, you would calculate How many additional people is this adding based on your code? And then they would pay for that additional amount in concurrency.

And we would have no say in any of that if we sign off on this?

If they change the program? Well, you could provide in this agreement that any change requires an amendment to the development agreement, which would then have to come back to you. It is common in development agreements. Um, to allow developers to subject to what's referred to as an equivalency matrix, make certain modifications to the development that are kind of pre-approved that are just done administratively. But if that's a concern, it is something that you can make them come back as an amendment to the development agreement, which would require two public hearings. Um, just like the adoption for this one.

Mr. Mayor, is that something that will be in our agreement?

It's the commission requires it. I think it only benefits both sides. But because that way, if there is a change, they just bring it to this board. And I don't think this board would be non-favorable because they're going to come in case there is a change. And it will be something that will be probably due to an economic change or something that they might have a sale of a different thing. And again, if they go ahead and have that change, I think it should be this commission to go ahead and accept it at that point. But again, I'm wanting to hear.

That would be my recommendation, Mr. Mayor, is that we have stake in the game as well.

Okay.

Thank you for that, sir.

If you don't mind, let me recognize Commissioner Yanyu first. Go ahead. Yes. You can just stand at the podium. Thank you.

Thank you. I don't know which one of you can make this clear for me because it's something that I'm confused about the office space that that because in reality, I'm going to tell you straight out. I don't like it. I don't like us to be in a building even for renting or buying for any departments of ours. It doesn't make any sense for us. But anyway, that's my point of view. But I want you to clear it up for me because I'm kind of confused how it's going to be presented to us.

So right now, as it stands, the draft development agreement that you were shown before had an option, basically, if the city wants to purchase or lease office space from one of their institutional, that's the category, the institutional uses that the city could basically lock in place 100,000 square feet that would be available to, it's your option. If you don't want it, you don't want it. But then if you exercise it, you get five years to negotiate. There's not even a purchase price in this agreement. It's just, they basically commit to holding 100,000 square feet for you to negotiate for five years. That's, one version or that's one where one place where you will see a reference to city space. The other one that was in some of our correspondence was in lieu of paying the general government fee, the impact fee that they'd be allowed to proffer office space or police station or something rather than paying cash. Again, we would frame it as an option for the city to consider. And then the question would just be the mechanism by which it comes to you.

Are you good? This is something in fairness to the applicant. It's something that was put out a while ago when we were first talking about this. So in fairness, this is something that they put out as an option based on the way it comes. It might not be a floor or two floors or something. It might be a ground space, whatever. That would be different, obviously, and I understand your point. You just don't want to be a floor somewhere. I get it. But those are options, and we don't know what those options are until they are available, and then we decide to take them or not. That's why they're an option.

Thank you. And actually in fairness, one thing, just so that there isn't a surprise on the parks concurrency specifically, I just wanted to talk about the timing of the delivery. Cause I don't think we'd had that conversation would be, uh, we would want the park, um, delivered at the time of the first plat. Just want to put it out there. We can talk about it, but you had a different timeframe in the correspondence. We don't have to decide that today, but that's, um, that's our response on, on the parks delivery.

All right, ma'am. You're recognized.

Thank you, sir. I just wanted to speak to the Vice President's concern about the population amount. So one thing that's very important to note is that in the development agreement already, and that's actually been there, I think, since the beginning of the negotiations, it's capped at 105 dwelling units per acre. So it cannot go above that amount without coming to you. That's very clear. Also, because it is such a big project that's going to take a long time and be built in phases, The idea came of the equivalency matrix that someone alluded to. I think it was Dennis. And so it's baked into the development agreement is the use equivalency matrix, which shows what can change and what can't change. All of that said, the zoning code that you adopted that implements all of this clearly states that any major change to the development would have to come to you anyway. But there's already parameters in here.

that um i think weigh heavily toward your concerns that this just becomes something totally different that this does not make that possible mr vice president thank you for that i just want to make sure that you know we're obviously we're in this together i just want to make sure you know as things progress and change that we can have a say in what's going on in there

If there's a material change to what you have agreed to in this agreement or what we will agree to in this agreement hopefully soon, you will have to weigh in on that if it is a material change.

Thank you for that and man is where. And that's totally except the 100% correct the only difference I think it with the commissioner was adding is in case this entity is not there tomorrow in the space zone by another entity that that agreement he's making sure that will come back to us and I know that runs for the land and when the sale and so on so that's what I was basically trying to clear up.

The agreement, as written, will bind any future owner, should there ever be one, for 30 years.

Yeah. Do any other commissioners?

Yes. Yes. Um, on a big project like this, what's going to answer something?

Oh, I'm sorry. Sorry for interrupting. Hold on. Okay.

I want to set a presence commissioners always first. Absolutely. Go ahead. Yes.

And then we'll give you the, yeah, before I forget, um, on a big project like this, What does the city get? Because I know we have something in our charter that, in our binders, in our law, that when you get a project like this, the city get something. I don't know if it's a piece of land or, can you clarify that for me? On this project, what do we get?

That's my question. You're getting the 3 acre Park you're getting a significant number of roadway improvements to the roads around you free of charge, yeah, you're not paying for it. They would have to pay you and they would have to pay you in in land or money and in this case given the significance of this of this development land is what we've been negotiating for so you're getting the 3 acre Park you're getting David Ensign, Public access to their private land in the locations that they've identified in this actually gets the thing I wanted to clarify from before. David Ensign, On the school parcel that's been proffered as a public private joint use agreement, just so that there's no surprises I our intent in the development agreement red line is to put in. some very specific terms about public access so that anybody who takes title to the school piece is not surprised by the amount of public access they're going to be required to provide. And because that will be in the development agreement, which will run with the land, that will assure that the access that the commission approves is what's going to be provided, and you would have enforcement mechanisms through the agreement. Um, so I mentioned the parks, I mentioned the, um, the, the public private, uh, rec spaces, the road improvements you'll be receiving. Um, you'll also be receiving the road improvements internal to their site, which they are responsible for building out, uh, at their expense. except for the $8 million pass-through grant from the federal government that through the approval of the development agreement, you'd be delegating the authority to pay them back a reimbursement basis as they build out the improvements. Otherwise, that would be completely on their dime. You will be getting impact fees for general government and police, which is one fee. And then you'll be getting some increased ad valorem taxable value. But I'll leave it to developers to talk about all the great things that they intend to give.

Based on your explanation, my question is, what's the holdup on this? Where are we stuck on?

I don't think we're stuck anymore. I think we've been having a, yeah, go ahead.

Mr. Mayor. Thank you, sir. We're not stuck anymore, I believe. It's now a matter of writing it all in, and this is why it's hard to say in the beginning. We've come a long way, a very long way, and I think it's for the betterment of both sides, as was asked from this commission in the last meeting. And this is what we did. We rolled up our sleeves. We discussed some issues back and forth pretty hard, but conceptual became reality. And this is what this agreement will be based on. Conceptual will become reality. You will vote on that agreement, but I don't think we're stuck anymore. It's just a matter now writing this whole thing out and making sure everything's agreed to.

Yeah, thank you, Mayor. I wanted this project to get done. I wanted to start this project. Our commercial in that area, They're not doing good. This project is gonna bring more life to our business and our city. I've been to right across the street from that place and I talked to a couple of the business owners and the impact is very phenomenal. I mean, I want this project to get done, Mayor. I really do. I mean, we're getting back and forth, back and forth, and I know you want to do the best for the city. We talk about this. They also want to do the best. I mean, we got to get somewhere down the line in the middle. and get this project done. This has been a long time, you know what I mean? So what I mean by getting stuck is every time we meet with the developer or the mayor, it's something different every time we come up here. When I met the developer, this was not in his office, this project right here. Everything changed. I mean, I saw a big park in the middle of the whole thing. Now I'm looking at the Lenium Park. You know, it looks good. It looks very nice. But my thing is, let's get it done, guys. Let's get this thing done.

Can I add to the, just to your point, the park actually was the hardest part of the negotiation because they wanted you to buy the land and the mayor wanted you to receive the land as most developments of this scale dedicate to the public. And that's where we finally bridged that gap. And so that's why we're back here.

I appreciate it. Thank you, Mayor.

You know, I'm good.

Mr. Mary needs to say anything. All right. I, um, I, you want to say things?

Yeah. All right. I'll yield to you. Good. Thank you, Mr. President. Um, real quickly, I wanted to ask the, uh, developer real quick, uh, the maintenance and upkeeping of all this public area who's responsible for that, including the three acres.

So the three acre park will be yours. Okay. Everything else will be kept.

Will be kept by you guys. Okay. When you said use restriction, that was for the athletic and field track area.

No. So the three acre park in the deed, we want to make sure it remains a park.

Okay.

Right. That the city doesn't come in and build city hall. For example. So it will have use restrictions in that way. And also in how the city can use the area. Right. We, if, if the residents.

i don't know want to use a portion of the park and the city wants to have a special event it'll just lay out the way that we can work together so that it continues to be an enjoyable space but so that the city still can have for both you know correct okay and um going back to the 100 000 square feet of institutional um i believe dennis said we don't have anything number wise yet costs

All that the development agreement says is if you want it within a period of time, you let us know, and then we negotiate that. When does that period of time start? I want to say it's a year, and I may be wrong, but I'm going off memory. I want to say it's a year from the approval of the development agreement, and then there's five years to either negotiate a lease or a purchase, and that's through a completely separate agreement.

Okay, yeah, because I know they answered a few of the questions that I had about the changes, and my biggest concern was what the mayor brought into play, which is what I believe my vice president also had, was that it doesn't, even if it's sold to another developer, owner, or anything, this stays as is. The agreement travels with the developer. That's perfectly fine. Okay, thank you.

Can you bring it up a little bit more?

all right so i'm gonna i'm gonna say a few things um i always like to give my colleagues in the commission an opportunity to have a healthy dialogue before i say anything i tend to bogart the microphone so first i said for the beginning that i didn't care about a park um now we have a free park And I think that's a victory for the city. So, kick ass job. Anytime the city of Seawater gets something for free, at the end of the day, it's only gonna benefit our residents. You did say something where there are restrictions to the park having to do with special events and whatnot. So I'm not in agreement with that. If it's a city park, the city should have first right of refusal. That's just my opinion. don't think that we if the park is gonna be a city owned park and the city has to maintain the park I don't believe that we should have to seek approval to do host a special event and I hope that you find that respectful it's just my opinion I haven't spoken anybody about that because I can't I can't sit there and go hey what do you think about this so that's number one I think I'm gonna be able to answer a lot of your questions Who has the numbers for impact and concurrency on your team that will be able to answer my questions?

It depends on what it is. The transportation ones, I have.

Give me traffic impact and concurrency totals, please.

So transportation improvements are 12,895,000. Okay, 12,895,000.

As far those are the improvements. What does the code say that you have to do with traffic impact?

I don't have those exact numbers.

Mr. Attorney, Mr. Attorney, Mr. Finance Director, do you have those numbers? If so, could you stand at the podium? Knowing you, you probably do.

On the transportation side, name, name, name, Scott Mendelsberg, finance director, city of Sweetwater. On the transportation side, the initial transportation impact fee prior to the credit for the existing mobile home park and the credit for affordable housing would be $15.7 million.

So they're short roughly 3 million or 2.9 million. Is that accurate?

No, they're going to, that 10 million is for that one offsite improvement. But I think that bridge is going to be, and the road's going to be substantially more.

So it's my understanding that there are $38 million in traffic improvements. Is that accurate?

That might be the amount required by the traffic study.

So the $38 million surpasses the $15.7 million required by the code. Is that accurate? Okay. So we have $38 million. So we're looking at an excess of $23 million.

That we're getting for free. No, we're not getting that money. That's the cost, the potential cost of the transportation impacts required by the development.

I agree. I misstated. We're getting an additional $23 million in improvements to our roads.

We should be.

Excellent. That's number one. I keep hearing that we're commingling police impact and government impact. Why is that?

We're not commingling. That is what we did when we revised the impact fees a couple of years ago. We brought that to you in September of 24, 25, and we updated those fees that had not been changed in 11 years. And as a recommendation from the consultant, we combined general government and police so that we have more flexibility to use them for the city's needs.

So I remember specifically stating in that meeting, before I voted upon it, we can go back, that I didn't want to commingle those funds. I wanted police impact to be police impact and government impact to stay government impact. Now, if we voted upon that, and it is what it is, I don't like to use those funds. I like for police to be police and government to be government. Now, that's for us to debate and dialogue. The reason why I asked that question, what is the police slash government impact fee for this project?

The initial total before the existing mobile home card and the affordable housing would be $7,933,518. Which is roughly the equivalent to one acre. Is that accurate?

Um, one acre where for the pre negotiations of the park, it was something like $7.5 million per acre.

That's what the appraisals that were presented to us would show.

I understand. So based on this project, they have to give us $7.9 million for police slash government impact. Is that accurate?

That's before the credit for the existing mobile home park and the credit for affordable housing. mobile home park will be $1,065,185. Which leaves 6.86 million to be get a possible credit for affordable housing of 2,089,000 based on potential 40%.

Thank you, Scott. I don't have any more questions for you. So we have 105 dwelling units per acre. How many acres of undeveloped land do you currently have?

The short answer is we don't know, because like I said, this is a conceptual master plan. So as each phase comes online, that site plan is going to be what really indicates what is and what isn't, but at least we know at least 15 acres will be some sort of open space.

Okay. You guys have a survey obviously, right? And so you, based on the survey, you don't know how many acres of undeveloped land you currently have.

Oh, the project today, 105, how, how,

How many acres was the project? Is it 105 including the three current buildings?

94 acres once you get rid of the three buildings.

Okay, got it. So that's where I was at. So now 94 times 105 dwelling units. So you're looking at having roughly 10,000 dwelling units.

10,000 people.

units is the population that is that not right I think the math is off right but to clarify in our land use which was approved we have a bundle of rights which the original tranche is 6,000 residential units right so if you have

Give me one second because I want to do some math here. So we have 105 acres times 94 acres is 9870 units. So do it again. 105 acres 105 units per acre times 94 acres is 9870 units. Say that again. We'll do it again. 105 units per acre.

You have to discount the buildings under there and it's 94. They did. It's 94.

It's 105 minus the units. Now it's 94. 94. So 105 units, dwelling units times 94 acres is 9,870 units.

So unless my math is off now.

That's what we're at. It says 9,870 units. Is it the intent of the developer to build 9,870 units? No. Got it. So the developer's only going to build capped at 6,000.

What the conceptual master plan shows in the matrix shown is 6,000.

I just wanted to get it on the record for a reason. Understood. You guys, how much in... Aside from the 100,000 conceptual square feet of, I don't know what space, how much retail space are you guys looking at? Is it like 335?

So we're insuring 100,000 square feet of non-residential uses. So that can be any kind of space, specifically commercial retail, 282,000.

Okay, so 282,000 in commercial retail, and that includes restaurants, bars?

Correct. All of those uses are in that 282. Excellent. That's in addition to the other non-residential uses.

I understand. And you guys are looking at a hotel, correct?

Correct. 250 keys plus a convention center.

How many? And you're looking at 350 feet. What is that? Like 20 something stories?

The height, the maximum allowable is 335.

Right. How many stories is that?

So if you take it at about 12 stories for a commercial development,

3030 are you guys going 30 feet high I I don't think anything is anticipated to be 30 feet high right now do you guys have a guest summit or less or I don't okay and then the convention center is going to be a component within within the hotel the idea is I will bring both so I'm assuming you're going to have several floors with a convention center and it caters of course to FIU the concept is to have you know that kind of rapport and it's also my understanding that each building is going to have its own silo parking is that accurate

So there will be parking garages throughout. I don't want to say that each building will have a parking garage because that may not be the best development program, but there will be parking nearby.

Got it. And then the school, how many students for this conceptual school?

I don't know at this time because they are still negotiating with the potential providers.

And have you been able to look at the design of the actual school? No. Um, Alex, have you been able to look at the design of the school? So the last time that I spoke to the developer, I wanted to reiterate the importance of having a perimeter road for traffic purposes. If you have, if you just look at that design there and you can think of 114th Avenue, if you force all the parents to go into a shoot around the school, now you minimize traffic. I think that's very important because traffic in that area is going to be ridiculous during.

So all schools go through a traffic review process at the county. and a lot of that will be instructional to how the queuing is done and which way the parents have to go for drop-off and pick-up, et cetera.

Did you want to say something, Alex?

That we have had those conversations about the importance of queuing internal to the site. That's definitely something we want to keep it off the roadways and internal to the school, and luckily we have the acreage to do that here.

Okay, Mr. Mayor, the floor.

It's my understanding this is one of the reasons exactly where you're going Mister president and all these issues is to harden the whole thing up so we know exactly what's coming our way and it is showing actually if you look at it they're showing a perimeter road around the school area. And it goes around the back of the field and comes out in the other direction that's perfect around the field, yes, that's excellent. Yeah. So this is part of the reasons why this is part of the reasons why hardening that conceptual into reality, uh, makes everything a lot easier for all of us.

I agree. Uh, what about the hospital? Is that still on the table?

I believe it's still being considered. It's very conceptual.

which is what I said from the beginning, it's a very ambitious thing. Listen, I hope it happens. But if the hospital doesn't happen, we're obviously gonna have additional space. And the concern is that based on that additional space, that the developer might attempt to come back to us for additional units. I'm willing to listen, but I'm a little hesitant only because that area is a juggernaut. He's making a lot of roadway improvements, but Northwest Seventh and 114th Avenue is going to be very difficult. I'm open to it. Like I said from the beginning, I said it in front of everybody, I think it's very ambitious to have a hospital. I think it would be great. As a matter of fact, we have a hospital. I want to have a helicopter landing pad. Give me 50 cows on top of the roofs. I mean, we can go big. And you're going to have a storage facility. How many floors? Is that the sweet spot? Eight stories?

So it's 136,000 square feet of self storage. Again, the configuration, I think, is still conceptual at this time. And that's the idea of the matrix, Mr. President, that if the hospital doesn't happen and they are going to use that delta of 6,000 to 10,000 units, that the matrix is there to then shift how things are done and what is necessary.

Right. Okay. A few other questions. We're going to have I think 7.9 million. Then after credits 6.5 million in police and government impact. We're shaking our head.

No, Scott.

Okay, so we started at 7.5 and our 4.7 Scott, please come to the podium. The exact amount is really not relevant. Scott Mendelsburg, Finance Director, City of Sweetwater. But if you want to play those games, we can.

Go ahead. The general government, with the initial development proposal, $7,933,518. The existing mobile home park provides $1,065,185 worth of credit. That leaves you $6,868,333. Of that, if you have a 40% potential credit for affordable housing, that would be $2,089,410 leaving a balance of $4,778,923. But if the number of units changes or something like that, uh, or the mix changes or the affordable housing units are more or less, those numbers will go up or down.

All right. Thank you, Scott. Um, How much access are we talking about when it comes to the school? Cause I'm a little, I'm a little confused when it comes to the school, school access. Um, could you explain that in detail?

The, you mean to the people can use it?

Yeah. They said there was limited access. I just wanna know what that means.

So the idea is to have a public, um, access agreement with the school that complies. As we know, there's a million school laws that apply to schools, obviously for safety reasons. So after school hours. Uh, when school's not in session, whether it's on the weekends or during breaks, it would be available to the public. It just has to be done. It'll be a separate use agreement. Um, so that everything is complied with that needs to be complied with.

Okay. So I have two more, uh, requests to consider just a request. You guys are going to go ahead and develop a school, which means that that school needs to have some sort of security component. And I would respectfully request that the developer take into strong consideration to have a Sweetwater police off-duty working at that school for several reasons. He understands being a law enforcement professional, but I would most certainly want to have that radio concurrency, that immediate communication where if something, God forbid, does happen, That officer who has the same frequency as our officers working the road can go ahead and push a button and can send the world. As opposed to having some sort of private security contract or something like that.

Understood.

I wouldn't impose that on him because I understand that does come with a financial strain. I just think that having a police officer in a school is different than having a private security guard in a school. Now, by saying this, the police command staff back there saying, oh, my God, how are we going to stop this? Well, that's their problem. They got to figure that out. Our officers are going to have more off duties and they're going to be happy about that. Right. Especially the off duty coordinator sitting there. And then. You said something about the park that we're going to have limited access. Explain that.

The three-acre park?

Yes, ma'am.

I'm glad you brought it up because I wanted to go back to that for a minute. The concern with the park is twofold. One, obviously, this is an urban environment. So if you have an enormous community event and it's a Sunday at 10 o'clock at night, you're impacting the residents that live in that community that are right there, right? So the idea is that the quiet enjoyment be preserved. We're modeling it similar to the Doral Central Park, which had similar concerns. It will not be in the development agreement. It will be in the deed where we deed the park to you. That's where the use restrictions would be. The other consideration is the proximity to the school and security reasons. So that was the reason why they're asking to be able to approve special events because they want to be able to have all those considerations taken care of.

understand I I respect the developer but I wouldn't go to the developer to ask permission for anything it's just my view I believe that is under the city's purview I get along great with the developer I love this project I've been trying to push this project from the beginning but he knows that I do have those mode those things where I'm like no kiddo and this is one of them I want you to take into consideration that any special event is never going to be conducted during school hours. So that's number one. The city doesn't have special events during school hours. Number two, our city special events run concurrent with Miami-Dade County code ordinance and city ordinance and state statute. So we can't have, you know, like if we're going to have a 4th of July event, we're not going to have it at that three acre park. We're probably going to have it at Ronzelli. So that's a point of contention for me. Just me. Anybody else here. And then and then I just want to get to a few more points and then I'll yield to my colleagues in the MDA are are you asking for a sound noise variance.

No there's been a separate ordinance that's being contemplated that deals with noise that has nothing to do with the MDA that's a in your regulatory capacity got in the in this MDA there a alcohol variance in proximity for the school same thing that would be in your regulatory capacity and that is being negotiated no I mean presumably there would be an ordinance that comes before you at some point but it's not in the master development agreement got it

And the applicant is not asking for a variance to extend hours of operation for the not the bars, restaurants, nightclubs, comedy clubs, whatever it is that he's there are no variance request in this application. Excellent. I don't believe that I have any other questions. I think that I covered a whole lot. I hope that I was able to answer some of your questions with that. I will yield does any other commission wish to speak? Commissioner young you have the floor.

That school doesn't have any after school activity. They're not going to play any games or they're going to have any activities going on. But all the school does. We don't know yet.

So if let's say the activities end at six, then the access would be after six. The activities end at four would be after four. That's some of the detail that we need to know.

Yeah, because eventually all the school have something going on after school. So it's impossible that it's going to be accessible to the public when the school is going to have something because that's the school. They all do.

during it would likely be during the evenings except in the summers of course during breaks you know what schools out of session thank you and these are the kind of points that are important this is why I wanted to hear from you in this workshop because these these points are extremely important they could be put into the master into this master agreement. But these things work best, I think, with ordinances as probably the best way to go. But when it comes to the issue with the school and the way it works, I tend to agree with a lot of things that both of you are saying. But those are the fine details, since they are gonna run with the land, some of the things. I do not think that, just like the noise ordinance, I don't agree that the park should have that same type of restriction. If we don't have it for noise ordinances and we don't have it for anything else. So we do that through ordinances normally. But these are the kind of things that we need to fine tune now with the attorneys and make sure that whatever we write in there, when you get it, you'll see it's not conceptual anymore. you're gonna know exactly what you're voting on, and I gave you my word on that. And I won't accept any agreement unless it's real. And that way, when it's before you guys, and still, even then, you have the ability to be able to maybe look at it and say, we might prefer a little bit more of this or that. But I think we're very close, we're beyond, the level that I think we've got to cut to and I think we're here. But these are the fine-tuning issues. I've written down everything you guys basically have asked for and I think both of us have been capturing everything. So I think we could work out the details that you guys have. And once we agree to it, but one of the things that I was that you brought up that was mentioned to me earlier, our attorney or outside attorney was talking about certain agreements already that exist with parks like this you were mentioning. Could you explain that?

one thing that is written actually in the proposal that uh that miriam uh provided solar ramos sorry uh is a joint use agreement and joint use agreements are very common between school boards and municipalities and between private schools also municipalities where it lays out what are the uses that are allowed, the times, the preferences, so on and so forth. So that's something that we're all gonna be working on in developing so that it's crystal clear kind of what is the access and what is the opportunity that city's gonna have to be able to use those athletic fields or those facilities. and kind of what the times are, and so it's very spelled out. So in the future, this developer decides to move on. The next operator, next person that's in that school knows exactly what the rules of the games are.

Yeah. So I'm going to say two more things. I also heard you earlier refer to CRAs. Now, again, I think that's very ambitious. Now, I don't have much experience at the 111 building, I don't have anybody here spend much time there. Oh yeah, you were there for like 23 years. That's all. And it's my understanding that the Board of County Commissioners right now is shooting down any attempt at a CRA. So again, I think that's very ambitious. I don't think that's going to happen. I think you'll have more hopes as a CDD, a community development district. It benefits the city to have a CRA because the city is ultimately going to be the CRA board members. But in order to do that, it's my understanding that we need approval from Miami-Dade County. And I don't see Miami-Dade County approving that. But, hey, maybe you guys know something that I don't. I'm just here for comedic relief.

During negotiations, the city brought up to us, administration brought up to us, that that was important and would be very beneficial. The only thing we've said is we'll stand by the city and help you in any way we can.

yeah i think it's gonna be great i mean i want front row tickets to anything and i'm not sitting in the front row um so that's the first thing is the cra i don't think i don't think that look i didn't think we were gonna get a park and we got three acres so at this point do what you're gonna do uh i will say this final thing so aside from how we may or may not feel about the developer i have my personal feelings about him Our job is to negotiate and advocate for the city of Sweetwater. And I think the mayor has been a tenacious negotiator. I've actually opposed the mayor saying, guys, I think a park is stupid. And I've said it openly in a meeting. But you're able to get a park, three acres for free, and get the guy to pay for the park. You won't. Well, hold on, let me finish. So you advocated for the city, kick-ass job. That doesn't negate the fact what the Rodriguez family means to the city of Sweetwater. And I've been around here for a long time, and they are the greatest family in the history of the city of Sweetwater, and I don't think anybody's ever going to be able to top them. What that family has done for the city of Sweetwater, from the father, the mom, and now Raul, and may they rest in peace. I don't see the developer giving the city any issues with permissions from a school or a park because whenever we needed to donate food during COVID, I personally used Van Academy when it was there with the shoot in Van Academy, and I can tell you that From April to November, I probably used the trailer park at least once a month. And we'd have thousands of people. I've never seen Raul say no to anything. I know what he does with the program where he takes the kids to Disney every year. And these are people with special needs with the Make-A-Wish Foundation. What he's done with the Little Dadmer Foundation is 250 kids free dance classes archery classes taekwondo classes and i think the most important other than the after school was the sat prep and it's the only organization that has a hundred percent success rate for all the kids that were in the sat program that passed the sats who are now in college for free I can tout and go on and on about what Raul Rodriguez and the Rodriguez family have done for the city of Sweetwater. I've thanked him in person. I've thanked him in public. I think his family is amazing. But if it's between the Rodriguez family and the city of Sweetwater, I've got to fight for the city of Sweetwater, which is why when I say things like I'm not in agreement with us not having access to a park or somebody telling me, that's why I say that. And I hope you guys respect that. So I say thank you, Mr. Mayor, for negotiating on behalf of the city. I know it's been ugly. I wish I was a fly on the wall eating popcorn. I heard there were great meetings. I heard they were very entertaining. Anybody else wish to say anything?

Yes, through the chair. Mr. Vice President. So a couple things I'd like for you to consider when you sit down with them in regards to the school. I would like for us to obviously have some type of organized sports or the ability to have some type of organized sports there. And maybe some small office space for for someone from parks to be able to kind of manage that for the residents that are going to live in that area. Did you know if it's gonna be a K through eight or any idea at all? I mean, I'm not gonna lie, the schools in our area are all suffering. We have a number of middle and elementary schools that the numbers are way down. I mean, it's happening across the county. The county's closing down schools. I'm not a real big fan of this, but it just isn't what it is. It's unfortunate. And then I can't tell from your rendering, will there be parking along the linear park for guests that don't live in the area to be able to park there?

The short answer is we don't know. That's a super specific detail.

But Alex has a thought. Maybe like parallel parking or something. I don't know. I'm wondering how somebody, how do I go there to...

So remember, each one of the residential podiums is going to have ample parking for the residential and commercial that will also have opportunities for the parking there.

And will that be like, will they be charging for that? Or is that just going to be like wide open?

That's yet to be determined. I know that for the commercial parking, it probably will be charged.

So if I wanted to go and utilize that linear park, I'm going to have to pay to park.

There's a trade-off to that. I mean, as you can see in the rendering, you can have a linear park that has cafes and the paseo built next to it, or you can have a linear park that has parking spaces next to it. So there is a trade-off to either having the parking within the podiums or within the linear parks. We're not at that level of detail with respect to the design, but that's also something to discuss because there is two different options and

to get that look you don't necessarily want to have parking abutting on that linear park and how about for the park how will our residents that are going to use the the field at the school will there be parking there the school will have ample parking here and will that obviously will that be available at no charge in the evening kind of thing or on the weekends it would be reasonably negotiated and very likely that it would be available so something for you to think of is you know how do how do the other residents get to that i mean listen we we've come a long way i want to thank you we the last time we were here you know we had some tough conversations but thank you and the developer for coming back and and making you know a significant change and and this presentation i think this is going to work well for us um you know i'll be voting for this and you know again thank you very much this is milestone piece for the city not only for us but for for our kids that are coming down the road so thanks again

Mr. President, one final point. Well, first of all, thank you all for all of your comments. They've been incredibly helpful to us. And I do think after hearing from all of you that we are very, very, very close if not there. It's just penning it and putting it all the details on paper. So with that, we'd like to ask for a I know you can't vote today, but for a special set commission meeting to vote on the master development agreements first reading.

May I Mr. Mr. Mayor? Uh, I gave this the commission my word that nothing will come to them until it's finalized. When it's finalized, I will move it as fast as I possibly can to be put in front of them. But finalized means not a red line paper, but an actual approve and signed off agreement by both you guys and us before it goes before them. Because I want to make sure that all these things, the school, what's going to be available, what's not, is this going to be there, is that going to be there, what could be replaced, what could change, those things we need to write up yet. Now, is it going to be done as fast as possible? Absolutely. I want to finish this probably more than you guys do. All right. And I'll be very truthful. I want to get it done, but the president's a hundred percent correct there. Our job is to represent the city and do the very best negotiations we can. I, nobody has one here. I want to be very clear. who is one, is the citizens that are gonna be moving in this great project in the future. to have the green space, to have the ability to be able to enjoy all the questions that you ask about the commercial areas and everything else, and the park, and also the school, and we could work out the details on all that. But these details have to be put in writing just like it's been said here by both sides, that we're gonna put it in writing. As soon as it's done, I will be presenting it to our commissioners as fast as possible. But I'm not going to set a date now without knowing how long it's going to take because there might be small disagreements. I'm here to finish this. And I know, I know Rowan, I've known him for many years. He's a great man, very passionate, and he's passionate about this project. And I would be too. Tremendously. But this project is so important, it's come for so long, that it's gotta be done correctly, and I think we're there. It's just a matter of putting it all in writing, exactly what you said, Miriam. And as soon as we put this in writing, I promise you, I will have it before the commissioners. And we'll move forward, but I'm not gonna sit here and promise them something where, This is the work, you get paid a lot more than I do to do this between all of you. So let's get this done and our team and I'll be putting it up and that you have my word on.

OK. Commissioner Reynaldo Rey. So I just want to put on the record and let the applicants know and our outside counsel know as well that I concur with the president and vice president on two things. The president says the use restriction We're not here to be doing a 4th of July. We all know that there's no way to do that in between buildings, but not to be limited to anything or ask for permission if we're the owner of the deed. And the other thing, that's why one of these workshops is good because I've looked at this... proposal and everything, and I've looked at it from A to Z, Z to A, and I missed something, and that was the parking of, the linear parking. You know, if it's a public area, you know, want to have some parking either around it, like our parking, Ronzelli, that they have those parallel parkings, you know, the people who live there, the residents that were living there, they're going to be able to go, but like, myself that's outside you know i know you guys live on the outer skirts of the park and maybe we want to go one day and enjoy it you know we're gonna be paying for it not not me i'm just saying for everyone else maybe i don't go maybe i go but for the most part is you know the pain of that fee if there's something you know not saying we need to have 200 parking spaces but at least the amount that goes from 112 all the way to 114 And then maybe, again, back or on one side only, push the park against the building with the coffee shops and on the other side. And, you know, if there's no parking, then, yeah, they'll have to use, you know, the other parking, which do have a cost. It's kind of like a first come, first serve. type of thing but you know that's why i concur with the president the vice president which again is why i agree on some of these workshops is because some things i don't see some things i see maybe you know any other commissioners of my colleagues you know they have something that they saw and i do concur with those two things the use restriction and also the parking of the park yield okay uh any other commissioner wish to speak i'm good so um

I think we have a lot to discuss. I am tired of kicking this can down the road. We've had some debates and dialogues and some heated discussions. Been on TikTok and Instagram and all that crap. I have, police been throwing pens at me every time I drink coffee. It's very interesting. I understand the developer's losing a lot of money. And it's more money than I could ever fathom. At this point, it's just make believe money to me when he says those numbers. I understand that the developer and development team and the 32,000 consultants that you guys have want to get this done as quickly as possible. I understand the point of the mayor and I understand the mayor wants to go ahead and button this up and and take your time. but I kind of want to meet in the middle, so I respectfully ask, speed up, speed up, and let's just wrap this thing up. If we're talking about the minutiae that we're discussing now, that should be done in a week. Just my opinion. So hopefully you guys can get that done. You know, I don't think if you guys have if you're serious about this, you can meet, you know, several days this week and get it done. It depends on what the mayor schedule is, because he's kind of busy running a, you know, running a city. So I say that respectfully. Does anybody else have anything else to dialogue? Before we finish? I'm going to give the mayor the final word. Does anybody else have anything else to dialogue? Nobody wishes to speak. Ralph is quiet. Very strange. Very strange of Ralph. Mr. Mayor, any final thoughts?

Thank you, Mr. President, and thank you all for this workshop. I think for both sides, this has been incredibly enlightening because some of the issues that have been brought up are kind of like the issues that were there to discuss, and it shows by... the way you presented yourselves and asked the questions, the exact intent that I basically, I think we're on the same page. I think they are too. It's just a matter of finessing and putting it all in writing. The faster, and I agree with you, Mr. President, the faster it is presented and looked at, our teams, the faster we'll put it on. And hopefully we get past this and we move on. There's a lot more to do. So, and one of the things that's also important to see here, I do not want to knock any other city, but this city has improved drastically in every aspect that we give services to. And one of those services is our building department. Our building department right now is second to none. and we will move on everything as fast as possible. So that time lapse that other people are talking about because it's not happening, I don't want to be in some of the other cities that people are waiting a year and a half, two years, and I think all of you are checking your head and understanding exactly where I'm coming from. We're here to move as fast as we can, Mr. President, to move that timeline once we get this agreement going. and moving as fast as we can to make these permits happen and get this project up and out of the ground. So I want to give you that that commitment to from the administration that adds to the point that you were talking about. Okay. So with that, thank you all for being here.

Before we go, uh, just one last point. Um, and I really appreciate the fact that you guys agreed to this is you're donating an additional acre of land for a police department. Is that accurate? it's not april fool's day mr president so we're not we're not donating another eight so you know what why don't we consider it so if you guys can go back to developer um i know he's away but knowing him he's watching uh so if you want to donate an acre of land you know i mean i'll accept it i'll accept it for our police department you know we we live in cramped spaces um our police parliament we're 90 strong now We need space. We have a bond rating now because of our finance director. Kick-ass job, Mr. Finance Director. I don't know how the hell you did that. But yeah, so other than that, motion to adjourn. All in favor say aye. Aye. All right, folks, have a good day.