City Council - Regular Meeting

here and we're able to provide more space especially for the shelter animals as well as the city. Uh so I invite anybody in this room to come visit our facility. Let me know if you're interested to come see and I can give you a tour. That's all I have for today. Thank you. A quick question. Are the Pluto cave puppies available yet? Uh which one? They look like a shepherd mix. The ones that were abandoned the Yeah, we had two in the last month, but yes. Yeah, everybody's available on our website. Sometimes they're one, sometimes they're 11, but

anyone else in the audience want to speak on anything? All right, we'll close public comment. back and turn it over to Todd for council staff comments. You want to fire his mic up. There we go. Thank you guys. Um so just a couple things. The Uh last council meeting, uh you know, we presented some very preliminary information about uh uh a mobile home park that we had gotten um some complaints that uh the rent increases and uh utility charges were outsized year over year. And so we were going to dig into this issue. We haven't forgotten about it. Um, we collected a lot of information from residents as well as uh from the operator of the park and um we're in the process of reviewing it and we'll be bringing to the next council meeting to discuss. Um the uh second thing last thing is uh Casper Creek daylighting. We have a grant application in with the steer conservancy. Uh the idea being we submit a preliminary uh grant so they can look over our cost estimate and u you know fatal lo what we've got. We're starting to get comments back and we're uh we're incorporating as we get them and we'll be able to by the end

of the month. So that's what I've got. The other department we could use the microphone.

Thank you, Mayor Council. First, for about the last six months, I've been working with Police Department to uh to explore the possibility of a combined dispatch center where we would combine for a unified countywide dispatch. Um This include meetings with IT tech radio people, you know, numerous uh other issues. Based on uh the financial estimates provided at this time, it's not cost effective for the city to move. Well, one of the closure was 467,000 which my budget for dispatch is 468. So you add the additional cost there. There was a lower cost but it wasn't beneficial to the either because we're going to have to have somebody at the counter taking uh people walking and stuff like that here. So, um reached out to uh Chief Gilman. He understands because it wasn't much of a savings for him. Um but there is still hope because if we go to a full-time centralized dispatch center, it's going to require all law enforcement agencies to go. This would essentially allow us to have dispatchers total versus the four and the supervisor and allow um just based on the number of calls we have through different ones. So it would allow for 11 full-time dispatchers to be in a full dispatch center with about a 50% reduced cost to everybody because everybody gets to cut their dispatching staff by about half. So you see your uh county counterparts and we counterparts and just let them know it's viable but it has to be countywide. can't be just two two agencies going together. We just can't

deciding that everybody else has to do it. Yeah, we can't. There's no state. Yes, sir.

Right. So, basically would look based on the number of calls. It would be essentially what YPD has dispatchers. Um they would go down three that would that they would pay for us. The sheriff's department would pay for three. We would pay for two. We And then the three smaller agencies could put pull their money to pay for another position. And then the other good thing about having these combined with sheriff's department is they already have the repeaters up. So we wouldn't have to have the rental of a repeater or build new repeater system or anything like for radio communications which was a cost that could be coming with this. So I just wanted to let you know this time we're not going to be going forward because it just didn't sustain us any money. I can, you know, um just add that it was about six months ago had a conversation with Angela Davis, county administrator, you know, was just off the cuff remark, but um you know, very much interested. So, you know, we'll have to with a new city manager and weed and um I don't know if they've got a permanent yet permanent replacement in Dons yet, but you know, well, the county would be if we can get them on board, but I'll I'll certainly reach out again to Angela Davis.

And then I'd like to take a moment here to uh wish a happy birthday to my fellow Marines. This is 250 years.

Um so to happy birthday all past and present Marines. Um 250 years. And then just a reminder, tomorrow is Veterans Day. So I just take a moment to recognize the members of the city we have working still serving us. We have Officer Mark Sinclair is our newest officer in United States Marine Corps. Officer John Kasanova is our K9 with United States Air Force. Um and then city manager of course uh Todd Johas as a United States Air Force. So just take a moment to recognize our vets for tomorrow back. Any other countless? All right. I'd just like to add that today is the 50th anniversary of the wreck of the Edmond Fitzgerald. And growing up in Michigan, this is a very much a holiday that way. And if you don't know what that is, look it up. It's sad, tragic Lake Superior history. All right, moving on to committee updates. Anything new to report on that, Todd?

I don't. Okay, that moving on to consent agenda. City manager recommends approval of Following consent agenda items. All resolutions and ordinances on this agenda or added here to shall be introduced or adopted as applicable by pedal only. Full reading thereof is here by way. A approval of minutes October 27th of 2025 regular meeting and B the police department monthly report. I move to approve consent agenda items A and B by title only. All those in favor say I. Opposed?

None. All right, moving on. Number eight, the Mercy Medical Hospital funding presentation to receive a report, you have the floor. Okay, so got word that um Mercy Medical would like to make a presentation about uh future funding for the facility. And I'm wondering if we've got uh anybody from I'm Roger Page. I'm the hospital president here at Mercy Mount Shasta and also the president over our three other most northern dignity hospitals and I appreciate the council allow me to come just share a little bit about what's going on with funding for healthare in general and so you probably going about I would say every health system independent small hospitals that seral communities We are all concerned about what could happen. We've heard a lot cuts and some of them are cut reductions in future years. So I thought I'd just kind of share right and I heard an example. They said healthare were a cake and you're serving your community and all of a sudden you need all the ingredients right about 70% of our patient medical

that's what we're all trying to figure If that happens, how do we how do we adjust? So, so what I'd like to start off with first um because there was a rumor at one of our other hospitalities. So everybody's being but our hospital down there for 100 years committed to our mission we're going to keep it same we all like any of you if not I can speak to it so so one of the things that all the medical groups organizations have Why can't you tell us the number? What is it actually going to do to you? And like I said, it's complicated because some of it funding for healthare comes from many different sources. One of those sources is called Medicaid. And so which in California is medical and so in Washington I think they call it and other things and basically the government for our medical population those individuals that are called medical assistant category the government funds about 50% of the funding that hospitals for those patients get California so we know there are going to be reductions in the federal government that will come we all know that our state has had budget challenges in itself so the concerns for hospitals is

it's unlikely that each state's going to have to figure that out. They could choose to fund the difference whatever the cut is. More than likely are stretch and so so that's where we're trying to figure out how do we cover that. The other thing that is concerning is that in the new in the current HR1 bills that are currently covered um are going to have to show if you're between the ages of 19 to 64, nonregant, you're not disabled, nonhosized. Um they want to show that you're doing at least 80 hours per month community service work. So that's a good thing. They're trying to hope that either people get back to work or they're involved in the community. But the challenge for those individuals to stay on that enrollment that they don't go off. We still care for every hospital. Um the other thing that's changing is redeterminary 1st, 2027. Currently uh H1 as it's defined. So there's more regulations that individuals have to do the hospitals or other clinics they won't have insurance. So part of the estimation is that it could be 3.5 billion over 10 years or 350 million annually for that based in the different states

even those indiv showification qualified and then there's other things that the government is looking aware of the challenge right now right again So, um, that's kind of the the piece that's out there and that's one funding source. There's other things. There's some good news that I want to share with the council is that there is a bucket of money for rural hospitals. So, in the state of California, there's about 46 hospitals qualify for rural. Um, in our area, our common hospitality health, there are three St. Elizabeth and Sier Nevada and Grass Valley all qualify. Um so of those 46 hospitals um they will have an opportunity working with the state of California to potentially get some of this rural health transformation. So HR1 set aside 50 billion that sounds like a lot. We're glad that it's there, but what was funding all our rural hospitals prior to that was 15. So those programs are closed. So it's 15 million away. There's 50 million get um the government is giving 25 of that 50 billion sorry 25 billion will go out to the states equally distributed if the state supply and show by the criteria that they will be able to use those working with clinics and hospitals um

that meet that role designation to help care for like ours. So the the good thing is that I was on call today with the state of California. They've been reaching out to individual rural hospitals like Fairchild US and others and they're continuing to try and understand what are the needs how could these dollars if we apply and able to get it be able to be served the And so they had to submit that application to the government last Thursday and then if it's approved those dollars will started by the federal government here in December. So that's some good news.

Uh you're not making public comment. You're a scheduled speaker, so there's no time. Okay. I just want to make sure I give you enough information.

Yeah. Just want to make sure I give you enough information so that it makes sense. So these dollars you don't if the state gets them and they distribute it among 46. So California will get their their portion but we have 46 another state might have 10 and they get the same amount. So there's a little bit of flaw in how they're distributing that billion but it has to go towards they could provide payments for healthare providers are helpful that's really challenging sometimes. It could help in promoting further advancement of technology like tea televis connection with hub like a larger hospital ready or maybe Davis we're able to get some of that information patients in those positions providing care when they're not able to travel could be recruiting clinical workforce things like that so the last thing I'll leave you The other reason it's really difficult and you hear a lot of worry is that if the economy gets better and generates more things that nothing changed the cuts and reductions spread over 10 years and so it's a total of 911 billion billion dollars in reds. That's why hospitals are concerned. Um the piece that isn't widely shared is that the majority of that 70 76% of those cuts are in the last five years. So when that went through it was put

after next elections and some other things that will happen. Um that still doesn't mean that there won't be an impact tonight because in 2025 on some of the things I just shared it's estimated to be about 45 million. We are getting cuts to what our reimbursement is going to be right now. And then it ramps up in 26 billion 468 billion 61 billion. That's just a little bit about what's going on with other hospitals together. How do we adjust? How do we work with other facilities? Quick question. I wanted to see if um if you can confirm that my assumption is correct that uh with these cuts, the assumption is some people that need care won't seek it. And for those that need the care, they're going to show up in emergency rooms, which mean that extra cost is going to be passed along uh um through your healthcare premiums. You're absolutely right. And that's part of it is that if you if you qualify currently for medical, hopefully you have a family provider, right? And we're trying to keep you healthy and out of the hospital or keep up on your issues. If you drop off and no longer qualified, you probably won't be able to see anybody until you're

really really sick. So, it will be tax on the ERS. Um, they'll still get care in the ER because we care for everybody whether they can pay or not at any hospital, any ER, but then we treat that issue, discharge you, and if you have an ongoing issue there, you have the problem again, which is really bad. Right. Thanks for coming and giving us this info here. I know that a lot of folks wondering um of that 50 billion that was reduced from the 150 that is going to be um potentially available to the 46 rural hospitals in California. Um so the 50 billion so that's split equally. like one per one billion per state and then that's divided up among the 46.

No, no, good question and thank you for asking for the clarification. So it's they have it used to be 150 billion that went out from federal government. They reduced it to 50 only 25 billion which again still sounds like a lot is being distributed equally to all the states. The other 25 billion and that's over five years. the other 25 billion um CMS does not determine how they want to distribute that yet. That's totally up to them. So all the states are applying for the 25 billion and then it's equally split regardless of the number of rural hospitals. So I think um look at my notes here on it comes out to about 100 million what probably California would get out of which is still better than nothing. We're thankful that there is some foral hospitals but across 46 hospitals and clinics. It's not just hospitals. Thank you for that clarification. whatever that number ends up being that is a reduction from the federal funding um per year or over five years, however it is counted. You're not closing facilities. You're centralized facilities. You're your

patient loads aren't reducing. Um, you've been forced to be lean and leaner over the past two, three, five, eight years. I'm I'm kind of like our city manager. kind of coming to a supposition if you would kind of comment on it which is it appears if you're going to stay in business you're going to need a lot of support from the states especially from our state

um state government especially given cut to Medicare which is medical here um excuse me medicaid which is medical here And all those things put together say that there was a there'll be a rapidly rising set of increased costs with decreased funding. At the same time, you can't do much about the people's response to being cut and having to work through the scenario that the city manager brought up. The fed federal government is reding funds that flow to the small rural hospitals. There's only one provider left and that's the state. So generally my question is you must have repres representation down at the state level to try and and as you look ahead go are you going to be able to meet plug the hole, so to speak. Could you comment on that? Because of course, out of that kind of thinking, maybe mind flawed, but that's the kind of thinking that goes, well, you guys aren't going to make it.

We're going to lose rural hospitals, and I don't know that. Um, but I'm sure I'm glad you're here, and I'd like you to please address that.

Thank you. That's a good question. Um and it's complex and so we are fortunate to be part of a larger health system and we work with a larger health systems we have an advocates advocacy arm that works in Washington trying to share some of those components and also here in California and then with our California hospitals and our small independent also which we're part of we have the California hospital association which does a lot of advocacy in the hospital council on to try and share those the other side of that picture with legislators that sometimes a bill that's passed or law regulation seems like a great idea and and it's intended for good but here's some of the impact so California hospital and others have been sharing with this or there we've got to think creatively how do we how do we adjust and what are some things that might help there's other things like seismic regulations that on hospitals California to have to upgrade to meet earthquake codes not a bad idea we think it's experiment but for like our hospital here it's million dollars we're going to have to put in so we're trying to share and it's millions and millions of dollars across the state with these reductions is there anything where they could adjust are most critical so that we get some relief on some of those expenses. There are other things. There's a group called in the state which is to try and manage healthare costs. We all know a lot. We'd like to pay less. So they're working on sharing these other pieces because our minimum wage goes up

standby call they're trying to share if they hold the cost that also makes it difficult. I'll probably give you more detail, but if we can get some relief on that that helps offset we're getting less pain. So, did that answer your question or did I not answer as you noted? It's complex. Yes.

And and maybe there just isn't the bottom line yet. It's it's unavailable. It's unknowable currently because have to see how things play out, where you get relief, where you don't have to get relief, how much the state can actually come up with, but it's a it's certainly a concerning issue for for those of us here and the constituent who represent. One last comment I could say on that. I am encourage like I said I had a call some of our leaders with the state um some of the state individuals that put in for the rural healthcare fund and they have been thinking on how to utilize some of these funds efficiently and they're thinking public models. So I'm I'm encouraged that at least they seem to be well educated on some of the impact and they're seeing what it might do to some of our hospitals are trying to think healthare we maybe do healthare a little bit differently like I said how do we keep the folks right the small rural hospitals out there we can't they can't do all the services or they can't get a to come. Can we do some tele by technology thinking differently and I'm encouraged that they're seem to be aware of the challenges.

Thanks for coming Roger. Um I just wanted to clarify that my understanding is it doesn't just impact the Mercy clinics. It's like the departments within the hospital that aren't the ER. So, it's um the physical rehabilitation, physical therapy, and the OB department and imaging. Um is that cascading through the hospital? Like is are you bracing for impact for those departments or is it how does that look? Yeah, one of the concerns we're looking at all that there are some service lines. So if you do imaging or or OB it's always a concern right probably seen a lot of the rural hospitals they can't get doctors they can't afford to be on had to close those and some service lines um in different organizations barely break even so the worry from a lot of organizations funding reduction. They now upside down too many of them upside down. Then they have how can they providing those services. So you try to partner or some organizations have reducing some of those pieces which is not great. healthcare funding there is set aside that you said the state are applying for and then individual um facilities will be applying to the state then to get kind of their share of that cake ingredient. Um I know like with a lot of grant applications uh it makes the application more competitive when you can show collaboration between organizations, individuals, anything like that. Um I don't know if this is a similar process or anything like that but do you anticipate any need for uh to

be able to show collaboration between say like the city and MY or anything like that or in the future when doing these applications? Possibly. Yeah. Because again when we were talking to the state today yes once they get the funds they'll send it out and then we to apply to show how we're how we're going to work on that. So sometimes having that letter helps and sometimes we're working with other clinics like that to see how we're helping support them or other hospitals. Any other questions?

We'll open up to public comment. Anybody wishes to speak on this? All right. See, we'll close public comments. bring it back. I guess that's it. I was here here to hear more than happy to come back quicker whatever. Yeah, there's a good update. We'd love to hear that committee with Roger. So that's kind of where this connection happens. So I'll I can help facilitate if needed to.

Thank you, Roger. All right, moving on. Number nine, the green dot transportation solutions presentation of Lake Street for all active transportation improvement plan. And Ken Kellogg, you can kick it off.

Oh, never mind. So, um, here introduce Jeffline from Green Dot Transportation. Just as a reminder from folks, uh, the was awarded um just under $160,000 in state uh planning funds, our transportation growth management funds uh for a look at ways to resolve um a number of issues on Lake Street in conjunction with uh money that we already have for the reconstruction of Lake Street between um the on and off ramp and approximately And um what we want to do here and it's consistent with our already adopted active transportation plan is to show progress on that plan. One, two, is to resolve uh some of the conflicts uh between bike peds and um and vehicles. And one of the the main issues that we're seeing on Lake Street is just the extremely um high speeds that people drive at times. and uh see if we can address uh those issues while making it, you know, a little safer and a little more inviting for bikes and pegs. And um with that, I'll let Jeff take it away.

Great. Thank you so much, Todd. Um good evening. It's nice to be here. My name is Jeff Twine, Green Dot Transportation Solutions. Our office is located in Chico. We have some employees just around other rural parts of California. Uh we focus on rural That's our bread and butter. That's where we where we recreate. That's where we visit. Um that's where we live. So, um so rural communities are near and dear to us. We feel like we understand them. Uh and we've seen a lot of different things happening in rural communities. So, we bring that expertise to to the table here. Um so like Todd said uh this was a planning grant and um we had a team of transportation planners, grant writers, engineers and surveyors do a bunch of analysis on the street. Um and part of that is uh talking to people and understanding what their issues are, what they see because we're not the experts. We don't live here. We're not the experts at what's actually happening. We can conceive it from our experience. But um so that was a very important of this project. Um so we call it complete street. Um it's kind of a term that not many people understand, but really uh you know the history of streets were uh first they were people um on streets and that's how people got around. They moved on them. Then the introduction of the automobile. All of our streets are built for automobiles. They're built for metal, not people. So our goal is to make them so they're for people. And that's what a complete street is. To make it more comfortable, make it safer for pedestrians and bicyclists, make it more economically feasible for the uh for the shops and businesses that want to have activity on the street. Um and make it a better connection to the places where you're going to to your house, to your job, to grandma's house, to the shop, um of

getting around. So, uh that's really the goal of a complete street. We look at Lake Street. We saw this paving project coming in. $2 million. It's basically just going to replace asphalt right in the middle of the street. It's so wide that might not even get to the end of the of the project area because of uh the cost of the paving now. So, uh this will help integrate a project. We're going to have to go get more money. Um but this will help integrate a project that was coming through anyways and add these components of um of a complete street. So um I'll talk about public outreach first. Uh we did some community meetings. We did surveys. We uh we can stakeholders within uh the community to talk about what are what are the problems that you guys see and we showed them ideas from other communities where there was problems and then the solution. So we talked to them, we asked them what they thought um about some of the solutions that we suggest um we use their input and then we also use technical analysis and our engineering expertise to figure out what we thought would be good solutions for the street based on the current practices in industry, current practices in rural communities and current practices from around the world. Frankly, we take ideas all over the place and whenever people say oh we can't do that somebody engineer that this does somewhere. So we try to figure out and come up with a solution for the problem. Um so lots of feedback. Um some of the big concerns Todd mentioned the speeding certainly Lake Street coming down the hill. People are cooking. Um we get that uh if they're coming off the freeway, they're cooking up that little section of the commercial core as well. Um lots of strange turning movements in there and it's just dangerous to be a human being with flesh and bones walking around. So,

um, we understand that safety concern. The sidewalk gaps. The sidewalks are not cohesive. Um, there's some lifting and challenges that some of the intersections, they're not compatible with the Americans for Disabilities Act. Um, my grandma could not get down the street with a wheelchair. Um, snow removal was a big one. Uh, people are concerned about snowmobile uh, snow snow removal and um, and we've worked with the city public works staff to try to figure out on how we would handle normal snow removal. It will be better than it is today when we do this project. Um limited bike infrastructure. There are some cyclists in town. People want to um have that especially with the the advent of the ebike. Um certainly it's a it's a good way to get around and people are recognizing that. So that's becoming part of our mobility culture and uh and that is a request from the community and from society. Um and crosswalks. Uh the visibility when I consider crosswalks, um it's a safety concern and if there's not a crosswalk there, it's a an access to a business or a location destination. So we take our guidance like I said kind of from um experience with me and my staff with other consultants uh traveling around the world uh being uh good at our industry being in touch with the progressive approaches to these challenges. Um and so lots of things that we could apply here. Um and so then you match that with the community input and we provide ideas. Um, at one of the community meetings, we had them put stickers on things from um, other communities that they liked or disliked. So, we really got a pretty good feeling of what the community would uh would appreciate. So getting into the technical aspects, um you know, Lake

Street, we looked at it from from Rockefell to the I5 uh first the first uh on-ramp there and we couldn't say that this street is the same street the whole way down. It's really not. They're very different uses, very different um uh technical makeup. Uh so so we broke it into three sections. We considered the um the zone from I5 to Maple Street. Um the community core, those two three blocks uh right there from Maple to Chestnut and then the residential connector up toward uh the high school and parks up there and then uh residences. So it actually broke out nicely and then we started getting into the engineering and the surveying and we were really glad that we had sections to break right out. Um so uh you guys can't see these crosssections but um I'll tell you just a little bit about the report and I do have these cross sections in larger slides at the end if we wanted to visit them or if a question came up about them but um so the report is is out in draft form. You can find it on the city's website. Um and that is out for public comment at this point in time. So we're welcoming comments. I tell you the date in a minute when I get to the slide um for a little while here and uh appreciate uh comments from the community. If you guys want to share, hey, you know, go look at this plan. We want to make sure it works in our community. Um so really what we these are called cross-sections and we look at how much right away we have to work with within a corridor or a section of roadway and that is from property line to property line. what does the city have um uh control over and then what do what can we do in there? Luckily, Lake Street is is quite wide comparatively. So, there's lots of room to improve. Um,

one of the main things that we heard from the community was they want some wider sidewalks. They want cohesive sidewalks from Rockfellow all the way down to the end of the project area. Very clear. They want good crossings across some of the streets. There's some streets that are really busy. For instance, on um uh on Chestnut Street um where there isn't a crosswalk. You know, you would have to go out of your way to go across and over and down and people just will just cruise right across. Um the term jaywalking comes to mind. So um so sidewalks um that are walkable, navigable um there are some utility holes in the middle of sidewalks and some other challenges. Uh the ramps uh at each intersection to be compatible and up to code. Um bike lanes um bike lanes work most of the time but sometimes they don't. So um one of the things with cyclist is is we want to be protected. We call it protected. a buffer between us and a car doing 40 miles an hour or even 20 miles an hour kids in tow in the bley behind you. Um so a buffer is really important. That's one of the solutions we used here. Um we are maintaining uh the majority of the parking. Uh and that's really important. We know that for the commerce that happens downtown. So you guys can look at some of these cross-sections in more detail uh at your leisure and uh please comment on what you think of them. So the project costs um there's actually um we have we have funding problems. Okay, we're always underfunded. There are some programs especially in the state of California that you can only spend on um these types of projects on active transportation projects. So there's some funding available. those programs have not been cut uh that we

know of yet. And so we're watching that closely. But, you know, we have to kind of forge forward with uh the momentum that we have and with the planning that we're doing and then um adjust later, but so far um there are some some pretty robust funding streams out there for these projects. And you can't just go fill potholes. You can't just spend this money on roads. You can either look for the money and go get it or you can someone else in the state to get it. But um just a a pretty important point because some people um want the money to go somewhere else. It's just really targeted money. Um so we're looking at about um $1.8 million um to fund these components of the project. And that's not just the we have the 2 million available for the pavement project. These are additional items at about 1.8 And these are estimated at uh cost year of construction. So it is so uh council presentation tonight. This is where the project is headed. We're um we have the public draft out for review until December 9th and then uh anticipate um uh the council reviewing that and considering adoption of the plan. And then we'll move forward with uh to seek funding and moving on with the plan. And that's the end of my presentation. So, I'm happy to answer any questions.

I love this. Oh, you do? I don't have a question, but this is so needed. Uh, my mom lives on Lake Street. I work off of Lake Street. So, um, even in designated crosswalk areas, I almost get hit all the time. So, this is Yeah, this is awesome. Thank you.

Yes. And to that issue, um, a lot of these improvements are traffic calming. So you're squeezing right now the lanes are like 13 to 15 a normal travel lane on I 12. So So you they're very wider lanes. We're squeeze them down a little bit. Cars will still be able to move no problem, but it will help people feel like I need to go a little slower here. There could be somebody on the road. a couple sign comments. I know we're kind of pressed for time. Um, so I think Jeff a bit. So, um, one, you may recall about a year year and a half ago, there was an individual who spoke in public comment about speeding on Lake Street and she was picked up the next day doing 75.

So, a lot of the reasons we have I'm sorry, 75

75. I mean, I'm guilty of 40 to 45 myself, but um so one of one of the issues why we have speeding on that roadway is because we've got in places, as Jeff mentioned, 15 foot lanes. And the way that you calm traffic is you narrow those lanes to, you know, 11 or 12 feet and you add and you add pedestrians because people automatically will then slow down because they see there's life. And in addition, the other part of this, it's an economic development issue. When you've got people that you see out on bikes and you see people walking, it shows light and activity and people then more people come out and they shop in our stores. Uh, one design element that, you know, sorry we didn't get this in the pack. We didn't get the presentation in time, but um one of the proposals is as we're approaching Mount Chasta Boulevard, a little bit past Chestnut, is using whether that stamp concrete or something else, a different colored paper to signify that you're in the commercial district. Um so there are a lot of really interesting elements that I think uh besides safety and um you know, you know, for all modes, it really economic development driver.

Yeah, as I said, I'm guilty of catching myself doing 40 45. So, narrowing the Yeah, that'll make a little bit more. So, this potential project, the actual construction, the design and the construction goes, it's more than Lake Street. It actually includes a little part of Ever Memorial. Yes. No, no, no. Not in front of the high school. In front of the uh the youth sports fields. So, it doesn't go past. Okay. All right. And it does go all the way to the highway.

Great. All right. Um I think I'll reserve my other comments till after. Any other questions?

I had one question. Is there And maybe we haven't maybe you haven't really gotten into specifics and this is part of the public comment that kind of thing, but is there any thought I know last year when we were chatting about this um that the idea of like roundabouts came up particularly um coming up Lake Street there and you know in terms of getting people to slow down but without disrupting the flow of traffic and he thought I didn't see that in here maybe I missed it. Um we did an initial analysis of available space for roundabout and it really was not feasible without taking out buildings and collecting property and so uh felt like just one quick given that we do have 15 even 16 foot wide vehicle lanes and some of these proposals in the residential area are at 11 ft

with commercial vehicles, fire trucks. Um what Does that work? Yes, absolutely. Fire trucks can navigate this. We wouldn't be able Are you nodding? Yeah, they're not designing without that. Any other questions before public comment? That the roundabout issue will be discussed in more detail when for all presented here. I don't know. So, next council meeting. Yeah.

All right. We'll open it up to public comment if anybody wishes to comments on this.

I just have a quick one. Uh, as as a mom with two kids that are getting, you know, a little bit uh older and starting to venture out a little more, I freaking love this, too. Um, our roads are crazy, you know, like we're I think that's awesome. There's not a lot of traffic. I kind of love that there only have three stop lights. You know, I've never lived in a small town anymore now. So, that's all great. But, yeah, the sidewalks are ridiculous and the crosswalks and I worry sometimes about my kid riding his bike um to and fro. So, grant funding, right? So, great. I know budget is an issue overall here, but grant funding. Uh I love that this is going up and down Lake Street. I would love if there's potential for grant money. We have to go up and down like Boulevard or Cedar or something to actually facilitate movement across town that way would be amazing.

Thank you. Anyone else? All right, close comment. Bring it back. John, you had something you wanted.

Okay. So, yeah, I'll be enthusiastically um reporting this project to u like to other commentators and I think it's a good example of where we all want our road roads and Mount Sha to head towards and they might not all be the same based on differing issues, but this design will include um sidewalk, uh, bike lanes, and obviously repaving and so forth. Um, I was kind of surprised by the total cost being 1.8 or 3.8 million including all the paving,

but even that I I find that I find that um a little on the low side. So that's I mean that's good. Um, and if the graph only comes to the gray, my one concern is that There's a lot of bad pipes on this street and we're gonna have to we're gonna have to change we're going to have to replace all those water pipes and sewer pipes after we do this project. And I've lived in cities particularly New York City where they come out and do a great paving job um rehab. I remember Broadway and 116th Street. I had beautiful roads. Uh Broadway was really improved and like within a week the guys are out cutting major cutting and um kaboom that's all ruined. Um so I think pace Yeah. Okay. So Ken's going to tell us how the pipes are.

Yes. Uh we we are about to award the design work for the reconstruction light and it will incorporate this but It's also what I call complete streets. Not just the the pedestrians and bicycles, but also making sure you're covering all the utilities at the same time. And that will be part of the the street design.

One comment on the cost just so we're not surprised later. These that we did for this project were planning level cost estimates. So when the design gets further along, that that engineers estimate can be different. So um it will likely adjust 10 to 20% from the planning level cost estimates.

Anybody else? All right. Thank you, Jeff. See you in January 12th.

We endorsed.

All right. Number 10, letter of intent to purchase the landing parcels. You have the floor. Okay. Um we're start with this. Uh so council knows, but just as a refresher from for those that are listening, the landing uh um we have been trying to attract developers and and part of the development process when you were to sell government owned land, you've got to go in California through what's called the surplus land act. And uh what that means is you've got to declare your land for landing as surplus. Um and then you've got these certain time frames that you need to meet. And uh we needed to do is is put out an RFP seeking uh qualified affordable housing developers just to see if anybody responded. to build you know their choice on the number of of unit. In this case we had one responded by the due date. It uh consists of two brothers John and Brian Power going by the name the Power Group LLC. Um they have been out to look at the site, talk to to people in the community. They're uh very experienced and um they would like uh through our discussions uh they would like to start with uh a proposal to purchase the east side landing parcel. Uh that's that's um you know when you're driving from our uh most southernmost um on and off ramp it's obviously the the parcel uh that's on the east side where the gateway trail is being

completed. They uh uh as part of this proposal would set outside 25% of housing units for affordable that meet HD's criteria, which means they're deed restricted for 50 years and um uh thus allowing the rest of the property to be to be um uh you know up for grabs and ability for us to sell it. So what they proposed is that they would use the purchase price uh for that parcel uh based on the Ryan valuation commercial appraisal that have that took place about a year year and a half ago. And uh that commercial appraisal for those that don't know these things it's dependent upon the type of use uh that um uh that is proposed on a particular site and what per square foot. And what they're saying is that it'll be a combination of single family property that will sell at a price of about um $15,000 per acre, uh highdensity residential at $40,000 per acre, and uh multifamily at $55,000 an acre. Now the total acreage for uh um for housing on that side of Mount GA is about 38 acres with about 2.6 acres of of high density and general commercial. And so the the mix uh you know that they come in with development plans for will decide the actual purchase price. But uh the range is between 644,000 and $683,000. What they've also said is they would

like to option the landing on west side, the two uh larger parcels uh and they want to visit that after they're able to put this in the book. Um so the terms under this uh is that they once they submit uh development plans and an agreed upon time um on they have approval for this that they will close in escrow within 30 days and um and move from that point and then to the other piece that isn't mentioned in the staff report is they want to get this off the on the east side and on the west side. As I've mentioned before, we have a um remaining EPA brownfield grant money that we're going to use for a master planning process. Uh and we'll go out for an RFP there. uh they have we've got to a bunch of different um concerns and uh we'll come up with proposed uses and then hold a series of public meetings to make sure that the mix is right for the community and we build significant public buyin to this. We um uh you know again we've talked about this here at council the uh the aim is to increase uh living wage jobs and to increase workforce housing opportunities and uh the developers have been made aware of that. Uh we put them in touch with um um Laurel Harkness here in town. We talked about these very specific lumber manufacturing facilities uh eight or so in a number you know a couple of case counties you know including one here

potentially in the landing so they're in contact as well as you may remember four years ago we were in contact with Robert Kendrick up in central point Oregon he uh has a manufacturing facil a couple manufacturing facilities that um build basically the walls for everything from university dormitories to houses uh within a closed area. Um it saves materials. Um it cuts down on you know pollution and waste and uh he's now in the mix as well as potentially a a party that may want to participate in this development again creating livable wages. So um that's those are the nu city manager. This has been going on for a while and one of the things I never really was very clear about was in the 25% or greater affordable housing portion. Is it correct to assume that that's all rental or are there any to own affordable housing? We talked about that and and that's to be determined in the mix. Um, I think it's probably easier for them to move towards rentals and um, I think HPV is more geared toward that as a viable product, but uh, it hasn't um, dropped off the map. Let me put it this way. And part of this, again, this is all vaporware until we have something signed, but uh we discussed with them other ways of tackling the workforce

housing issue because there are no grant for the missing middle. Um there, you know, and there aren't the low interest loans. One of the things we said is what about um potential for co-housing where you have individual uh rooms uh that are rented um by workers or you know folks up here and their shared common areas for cooking and meetings and that kind of thing. And so they immediately put the thinking caps on and they saw that the the loge is up for sale and um they said that's something that could be easily converted to the co-ousing idea and they've been in talks with them and they last time I talked to them last week um said they've uh the owners have come down significantly in price. uh they just wanted uh me which I'm gathering to uh produce uh five years of EOT data uh for the city so they understand what the demand is. And so that's that's something I'm working on there. But that's that's that's a a potential purchase that's not even part of the landing and that would be you know another addition if we can make it work.

So you mentioned that the is based on the proposed use of the site. Is that a standard way of doing it for the person buying it to say what they're going to do and then it's valued off? And then are those valuations something that's set by like a state agency or

No, we um we paid a I don't know what the acronym stands for an MIA commercial appraiser. That's kind of the gold standard in commercial appraising. And um uh you based it on square footage rate on partially on what the ROI is likely to be for that developer and also you've got uh you know you've also got to take into account what the zoning is for a particular parcel.

So is that purchaser then locked into using it for what they initially purchased it for to to do? I mean because like I guess my question is like what's to stop somebody from coming in saying they're going to use it for whatever is the sort of like lowest return getting the and then using it for something else.

Not at all. Um the That's a great question. Um the um appraisal has a uh a rate uh for anything that can be built on that site under PD zoning, which is our our most um lenient, and it allows us to do a whole host of things. Um but you you'd adjust based on what that proposed In terms of the purchase price, you couldn't pay for the land and then come in and go surprise. Yeah, we're doing a highrise. Yeah.

Any other questions? All right. Up to public comment. Anybody wants to comment? All right. Seeing none, we'll close public comment. Whatever. Um the affordable part of it is that just based on the normal valuation of like the medium median income for the county, the 44,000 or whatever it is for county. Um it is it uh it's 0 to 60% median family income and the tough part is that again middle 60 to 120.

Okay. because they they purchased uh the land though. Is there any expectation of what that money is going to be used for such as being plowed into infrastructure improvement or at this point undetermined to be decided by council?

What are we? All right. So, I'm going to move approve a non uh the nine bind the nonbinding proposal to purchase APN067-010-140 and to approve the options for the potential purchase of partial APN's 067-10-20 andPN 067-10-10 by the power group LLC All those in favor say I.

I.

I. Opposed. None. All right. Moving on to resolution authorizing position of building inspector plans examiner and affirming hourly wage and you have the floor here. Okay. Um currently we've been using uh development pollution uh for our our uh building and uh um uh you know uh official services. And one of the things that we're finding is that uh the costs are continuing to increase and we've had to cut back on the um the number of days that they're up here to stay under our budget cap which is 105,000 which was what we adopted and we assumed there were going to be additional increases over time. And um uh so what we decided to do is we would save money is a um a a city position um that the part-time three days a week and we would hire uh a one of the officials we've been using from develop DevCom um who uh developers you know residents like that uh is extremely user friendly and extremely knowledgeable. And this person would pay for um their own health insurance under that undercover California and we would pay them a rate that is under that 105,000. The catch is that um he uh right now can do plan check

up to uh you know through residential um and he's working on a certification on commercial and part of this builtin uh hourly wage is also including the cost of plant check fees for any commercial development that we'd have to send out to Rica and um yeah so um it's a it's a attempt to save money going into the future and it's also a known quantity who uh knows this stuff and the public like uh staff like and is extremely userfriendly for $55 an hour. That is the base up to 30 hours or or at 30 hours. You said health care wasn't included in that. Correct. Um they would pay for their own healthcare.

Yes, they they have been. And there would also be residential andor commercial plan check fees included in that or is that

uh does he would be able to do residential plan check? Um there's one module that he is in the process of of one last module in the process of completing the coursework on complet that you would be able to just like DevCom also do commercial plan check in house. Until that happened uh we would just send uh you know we'll get you know a review and and the ability for developer to come and sit down with team and give them a timeline and a package of how you get to yes. Uh and but we have again you know that slight lag time for a little less than a year. We send our plans up for commercial to retail.

Thank you.

So the 55 an hour that's being offered is there is it anticipated that that will rise once he has that additional certification or this the wage being offered with the idea that he will get that latter. No.

Does the So the the 105,000 is what you expect you will spend with 16 hours a week at 55ish an hour. And does that include this person's changing from an independent contractor. Did you include the cost of payroll taxes and that kind of thing? That's going to be We did and too. Yeah, that's included.

Three days a day more than we're getting. Yes. Currently, it's been because we cut DevCom's hours back to keep them at that 105.

Yeah, it's 68,000 um prior to taxes and pension medical questions and open it up to public comment. Anybody wants to speak on this? I just thought it was interesting. I have a buddy that really sports chain and so he does this now. He's in Eureka. So when I showed him the what's going on here, he had some comments. So maybe he wanted me to share it out there. Since two years ago, we had an independent inspector examiner that was only costing the city 35,000 and they took it away from him. The city of Masa doesn't have enough building on plans examiner and building official. You could literally go back to the same guy and offer him 50k cont. I actually happen to know him. The reason I know about this because Dave Smith was the plans examiner and building official for the city of Mount Chasta. When he retired, he offered me his business. That business included the city of Dunir, city of Mount city. Just go back two years, three years and ask for the city of Mchester. I know that the wages have gone up, but if you brings back a firefighter, I'm over in Hu for work, so I can't make it. It's really interesting hows for 105 a year.

Anyone else? We've been getting by with two days, but we anticipate needing three days a week or we just have the ability to do so. We do. We we we need

Yeah, we do at our busiest times. city manager, the the 30 hours a week, which is what this is based on, the eb and flow of of demand levels of of not just plant services, but inspection services. It's 30, 40, 50, 60 hours at some times of the year and not so at others. when they're independent when they're independent contractors, it seems like that would be easier to move up and down and manage the total annual budget. Does it does that handcuff us in any way by having a a city employee where we they just only going to work 30 hours and that's even when there's very little and only got to work 30 hours when there's a whole lot going on. You see where I'm trying to go with this? Can you can you help me understand?

This person um if I understand your question correctly coming on also knows uh planning and some other concerns that we could easily plug this him into. And when there are down times uh that is an opportunity to drive around town to look uh you know just to see what kind of development is happening in ter that folks have permits. Um, and there's one other piece to take into account here, and again, it hasn't happened, but we've been working on a master fee schedule for some time now. Um, a lot of the the costs for this individual are going to be um, if not fully, mostly covered if we do adopt the all-in rate. um at least with the building official as part of that masterpiece.

The question is we can we do better and the city manager doesn't think so. He thinks this is a good neutral um way to go. Would you say that's about right? neutral in that the money spent are the same and actually it's favorable to us and all because there's more hours available to the for the duties. Yeah. Right. At the same cost at the same cost and uh we have the ability to use the other skills that he's you know he's he's got he's somebody with 35.

You think it's a good value? A good point to make too is that we have previously approved the amount in the budget. So right now we're really just approving switching it from contract to a employee. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm I'm going to move to approve resolution CCR-25- Come on clerk city deputy clerk.

All right number to be determined. All right. PCR-25 uh number following the previous uh resolution. A resolution of the city council of the city of Mount Shasta authorizing the job position of building inspector plans examiner and affirming the hourly wage. Second. All those in favor say I. I. I. Opposed. None.

Use of remaining Prop 68 funding.

Okay. Um, Prop 68 funding, uh, for those that don't know is essentially, I mean, I go into the name of Thank you. I won't appreciate. Um, it's basically state parks funding. Uh we were awarded um just under 180,000 in 2018 and it was for three projects and uh for the visitor center uh for uh landscaping and um repaving that parking lot. It was for the uh redesign of the landscape at city hall and it was also for another project that was called chestnut um park that uh nobody so far I'm not sure who submitted but we don't really know what that was other than it was uh related to the viewer to Mount Chasta that's on Chestnut Street and additional landscaping And so, uh, where we're at now, um, is we, the city earlier this, very early in this year, uh, purchased two parcels on, um, Chestnut Street that are adjacent to Castle that, uh, are to be used for public parking. Um, you know, with the assumption that we build and then we can provide additional uh public parking in case a one-way chestnut oneway Mount Chasta moves forward and or the daylighting of Castle Creek. And so what we've done is uh we're reprogramming funds that are left available for uh the design and build of

that parking lot, which is about $90,000. So, what we've done is we finished the landscaping at the visitor center. We didn't pave the lot. Um, and what we learned is that the the roof there is failing. So, we've got a bid on um replacing that roof. And we added a little bit of contingency there. And at uh city hall, instead of the uh redesigning the landscape, we want to use some of that money to take down a large and problem tree before it ends up in the roadway. and you know becomes a severe uh claim that we need to pay. Um and then finally reprogramming the Chestnut Park uh you know in order to pay for that $90,000 of uh design and uh construction of that public parking lot. And with that we have an estimated 48,000 remaining. We have until 2028 to spend it. Um, and if we're reprogramming other stuff, it might be time to look at that $48,000 and other ways that we can put that to use as long as it fits the grant criteria. It's related to parks in some way because we bought that property. um probated for parking if the Castle Creek andor one way of both Mount and Chestnut happened. In the meantime, is there any thought once it's paved just

spending a little money and putting a bunch of picnic tables and having it host a couple of food trucks down at the back end of it. The world is council's oyster. Thank you, city manager. Open it up to public comment.

I'm the one who kind of forced this issue to come to the board. It's only $48,000. Not a lot of money. Um, my first concern is that the actual cost of building that parking lot is going to be higher than 90,000. So once that's clarified, I be a little bit more confident about what to do with 48,000. Um, in that area, there's a number of things that are broken or things that have been planned to be done by DAT that aren't quite finished yet. They're somewhat park related. And um, lastly, there's the Mount Chester Recreation Park District that could definitely use the money and they wouldn't mind donation um and it would be used for part services. Um I don't know if that transfer is available. I have a feeling it could be done but those are my thoughts on the issues. Oh, one of the things that are undone um those garbage can things. I think there's maybe one or two more need to be purchased and finish that project. There's the utility box of rafts that maybe there's three to five left, but definitely three that were intended to be done by Zakat. Sculpture deal is complete. Um, and of course we have the nonfunctioning uh

Yeah, I missed 48,000 items on that list. So that's my feeling, but I think the first thing is to get confidence in the the construction numbers of that parking lot. Um 90 seems reasonably high as the p public public work city jobs that's going to be um prevailing wage jobs. And I'm thinking I'm thinking maybe that's not enough. I'm not sure. You say you think that $90,000 for that paving job is that is that high enough? Yeah,

I feel I I can always be surprised the way market goes, but um I think that's more than enough right now. I I I'd be surprised if it exceeded that. We'll have it out. We'll have the package ready to go out to here fairly soon. So, we'll be getting some solid numbers back. So, With that said, you want to hold on to that wise. I was just gonna suggest getting the clock fixed.

But yes, I agree. Did you find anyone that could fix those things? Is there any specialists that that work on those type of things? Ken was going to look at I floated it and um I didn't bird dog it internally. So I I need to follow up. I picture that be a little more expensive. We think um will be because it'll probably be somebody specialist from the Bay Area or LA

if if that's under the grant parameters. That's I mean it's just my opinion but I think that's an embarrassment. You think it could be fixed independent of the ground or either? Well, if it either way. I mean, or how about taking them down. They're broken. How about that? Okay. I'm probably tired of what you asked. You're talking about the clock and the thermometer. Yeah, we we've tried to get them fixed. We tried to get parts for them. We No luck. So yeah, we're shopping replacements.

Okay. Well, that's kind of

the parking lot. How's that? But it sounds like it's okay, right? Your car. No, no. Is it okay by the power? Yeah, they checked off on that parking lot or did you way that um I'm I don't know if I'm following maybe I'm just slow. So, it's park is prop 68 supposed to be parkland. So, we got a 177 like all the other municipalities and this in this park district they spent it most of it on the roof above us.

Uh you you've done some reigning of those funds and one of them is the $90,000 and you how did you pull that off because it's not part It's qualifying. We made the argument that it's adjacent to um the daylighting of cast. We all want that. I think that work,000.

Well, I support a number of those things that you were talking about. We got Do we know what the final numbers are for bathing? Obviously, um the and there's various deac temperature things that need to get fix. The reason I brought up food trucks because the incremental cost to throw some picnic tables and or whatever is the right thing to do. I'm not trying to micromanage that, but I'm trying to that potentially bring incremental sales tax revenue to the city. I'm trying not to just spend money but have something as a return relative to our revenues which is an ongoing focus and and I don't think it's much money. Um the I think you can get two food trucks down there at the end and if you threw some parking spaces like you were already planning to have on one end and and but down at the back end you have a couple of food trucks in some bench table combo things that can't cost a lot of money. I I think it would add a nice dimension to the town and bring also bring in some revenue.

I I think I think you're right. I think um you know This is figuring out what a you know an appropriate pad is for parking a truck and then uh seeking um you know some type of rent from uh the cart owner and you know in in addition to that tax revenue I think it's a good idea.

So I don't I don't think that's going to change the cost of doing the project. All you all you're going to do is take parking spaces and and set up a spot for people to rent, right? And then you have to make sure they pay their sales tax be cash oriented. But anyhow, let's not get into that. Uh the um so that wouldn't really affect the 90,000. You're just going to change the striking. No, not at all. But what it does is um self-contained with respect to water and power just like behind Chevron. Um that would be my crime.

Yeah. And essentially, you know, we make it clear to the the folks that are renting these plots that um they're available to them until demand gets to a point that such that we need to uh um you know make available for parking. And then that's the time if we're going to do a pilot project on actually introducing you know pay for parking in the city. You introduced app based parking fees and you that lot as that um as that you know that kind of guinea pig for the city. That was actually my question. As part of that project for that um that those lots, is there city power available? Would would there be available city power for any food trucks that were renting it potentially? Or if we decide to say go with like a paid parking model and we had some sort of kiosk that was like a self-contained parking kiosk thing, would that have available power right there pretty easily like within the scope of the existing project?

Uh well actually food trucks need power quite often. they have their own generator. But yes, this plan has both lampost and outlets still. And frankly, when we talk about design, I mean, uh Ken already has a um a parking layout. He's shot grades out there and determine how water is going to flow. A lot of that's going to be done in house. you know, it's um you know, it's really it's really going to come down to the cost of paving if we do all our design.

All right. So, I'm going to move to uh table this until the first meeting and how long will it take for the bidding process because of February before you have an answer total time? I'm not getting can get any responses. Yeah, bid responses February. End of February be great. Okay. Second meeting in February. So, move to table this item till the second meeting of February. All right. All those in favor say I. I. I. Opposed. None. All right. Moving on. Number 13, fire department job description updates. Chief, you have the floor.

Thank you, Mayor and Council. Uh, I just went through the job descriptions we have currently for the fire captain and the firefighters and updated some of the certification verbage and the state fire marshal lingo that now for the current positions. So in theory it's just small tweaks of updating verbage for those two job descriptions on the fact I think um the the point of Uh the engineer position is it requires you know significant experience as a firefighter but um uh it doesn't require the qualifications that we normally would expect from a captain because we're having a hard time coming up with qualified applicants that fit the bill for that captain's block. questions.

That's the next item is the fire engineer has a new job description for um the ability to draw from a very less qualification level to fill seats. Right now, we've been through a couple interview processes and with the shift style that we have at the moment, it's becoming tougher and tougher to fill the seats of the current position. So with that um the change from two captains on the uh approved positions to one captain, one engineer and two firefighters and the pay scale was included for the lower in between the captain and firefighters. two similar questions of the folks that are currently employed there. Um, are there people that would qualify as an engineer but not as a captain currently?

Probably. Okay. But I think the bigger draw is within the county there's a lot more ability to fill an engineer spot right now I think than an actual position. retitling it to a lower and it'll make for more stepping stones hopefully in the future for you know we get to that point of building the department up public Any wishes to speak on this? See, we'll close it. Bring it back.

Clarify. To clarify, we're on number 13, which is an update for the firefighter position. So, I'll move to approve move to approve update to the job description for firefighter. Fire captain on there. It should it should say fire captain, too. Next, the next one is engineer. Okay. So, I'll move to approve update to the job description for firefighter and fire captain. That's number 13. Second. All those in favor say I. I.

I. Opposed? None. All right. Now, moving on to the new position of fire engineer. You get to say everything again. So thank you mayor and council but we're just looking for a job copification between firefighter and fire captain or the ability to have hire a position before in the last few interview processes we've come up to constraints of hiring captains due to qualifications as well as the shift style available with the intent to have Another job classification was some lower standards to hopefully entice more local interest to fill the position that we have coming vacant again. All right, we'll open this up to public comment.

All right, bring it back. creation of the new position called fire engineer and the details regarding that position as stated. Second. All those in favor say I. I opposed. None.

All right. Moving on. Outside meetings. So, uh K group uh we had a meeting. It look like our our u available cash is hovering in the 7,000 7 to 8,000 7,7500 range. Um money's coming in versus money's going out. So the uh agency is is surviving and we're looking for other sources of income. The city's money was received happily uh the $1,000 donation. So, we're looking for grants and other sources of of funds. Um my feeling is a little more optimistic because the uh the person that manages the organization um Debbie um she is she was nervous and sounding a little shaky about it a month ago but since since then I've missed most of the meetings because I've been too busy through the summer but she seems a little bit more confident about the situation now. So, uh, we'll see how things go. We'll have one more meeting this year next week and special day instead of the usual pattern and then we won't meet again until January. The Kier interpreted and uh, information center goes on.

Long may live. All right, moving on to future agenda items. Right now, we have the masterpiece schedules. Does anybody wish to add anything at this time? I had some folks um some folks brought it up at a meeting and I had some folks in the in the public ask about a potential vacancy tax on res I mean we would decide on the terms of it but having staff look into that

there6 anybody Just wanted to clarify it's not going to be an agenda item, but we're all in favor of letting the mayor finish the whole next meeting. That would be on the Yeah, we'll have to be here. I will only one Monday December 1st Monday, December 8th. You won't be here on the 8th. Okay. You can join us from the casino, right?

Yes. Yeah. You just need the address of the hotel. You can do that. Any other agenda items? Do you want to say something? Yeah. Councilman Globin, I don't know if you uh mentioned it up front. I you know, if you did, I missed it. um about a change.

I had something else that was brought up um about potentially just either instituting like a phrase item um letting members of the public speak after like city staff and things have have talked about it. Um just because they're concerned that folks don't necessarily know the info. So they don't know the questions to ask of the folks doing the presentations until after it's given. But by that point, public comment period is over. So they would talk. So changing up the rubber rules,

changing up the the order of it potentially or adding a second public comment period for it could be something along the lines if we're worried about, you know, having the meetings go really long. It could be something where like uh you can only, you know, address each item once or something like that. So it doesn't pass the overall time. just giving folks in the in the audience in general. Um an opportunity in public comment followed by a second public item just a second one and it could be something like so we do the questions we go to the public comment then we close bring it back to conversation and then after that before we vote on anything we offer a second

public comment on that agenda item is that what I'm hearing no talking about public comment Oh, done per agenda. Oh, I was talking about per agenda. Yeah, I was and and just moving it so that people have an opportunity to digest what is said, put their thoughts and then make comment on on it rather than having to do it ahead of time if they're not overly familiar. Robert,

I think um yeah, we need to check into the the legality of that. staff presents the agenda item. There's clarifying questions by council council. When that is over that has to be controlled because a lot of times we start debating stuff we shouldn't and then public comment and then back to discussion because we accept the public comment then into our to incorporate into our conversation before we vote. But you're you're suggesting in between our conversation and voting the second public

comment. I when you initially brought it up, I thought you were saying after the city manager and the other department had to make their report and I was going to suggest that they need to look at the because Todd posts his stuff on the website. So if they're like not knowing what's going on, the information packets are already available to everybody. They just have to read it themselves. And to be clear that it's not a Q&A time, so they can't come and ask questions about it. It's just about making their comments, which I think we're doing well, but Except the one time I forgot forgiven myself once this whole damn year.

All right. Any other agenda items to be added? All right. See you guys in two weeks. You're the one who told me