Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

of directing staff, as you and Mr. Codd have mentioned, to explore other opportunities at this point. Mayor Pro Tem?

Yeah, thank you, Mayor. I agree with everything that's been said. I more agree with what Mr. Perales was saying. It's frustrating when they don't get back. It's gone on for way too long. So yeah, I'd like to have them, like the location and everything, but yeah, I guess if they're

not going to do business with us we could look at other options so that's my thought on that thank you mr. Hernandez you were gonna say something yeah just you know move on and look at other options that they're not willing to negotiate at all or think their plan is worth more than you know it actually is because so just move on and try to replicate that somewhere else

Perfect. Thank you, Mr. Campos. Oh, sorry, your light is on me, but thank you, sir.

Yeah, absolutely. I just agree with everybody here on the dias. It's an unfortunate situation. I think that we've invested as a city so much into that And we're seeing how the community loves it, supports it, wants it. And we're talking about the same people. We're talking about people that live in the city of Pasco, but also live in Franklin County. And so it's the same people, yet there's some disconnect here. And I just don't get it. I understand that they may want more money. Well, then at least come and tell us that. Not being able to have that communication. kind of sends a signal that they're ready to move on in their own way. So I am in support of that as well, to just go and find a different alternative because we have to provide an opportunity for our community that obviously loves an event or a place like that. And so we have to do our due diligence to find that location.

Thank you. Yes, and just in all fairness, they absolutely did tell us they wanted more money than what we offered and everything like that. But, you know, you guys, I drove by there Sunday morning on our way to church, and my goodness, the soccer fields were just packed. The softball fields were just packed. I mean, people are definitely using that facility. It is a value to our community, and so, like, you know, Councilmember Hernandez even said whether we replicate that somewhere else.

I know that's what others have said also, but mr. Stewart Yeah, if I might add in reference to the mayor's meeting that he referenced and Given what they communicated back or what they believe the value of that property is I have a hard time as a city manager recommending that we pay that amount because unless I'm wrong with my estimates you could probably build a brand new state of the art facility for what they're asking for that. And still have to invest further money to keep it up to date and make it more usable for those tournaments. And so I think it's, my recommendation is that council directs staff to move forward so at least we have alternatives and we have better estimates for what that will cost and then we can revisit that conversation again later on down the road when we have that information.

Thank you. Agree. Yeah, the location is obviously premium because we have the infrastructure around there already with hotels and Summers Hub and also the other recently added amenities. But at the same time, if we can't go anywhere with that, yeah, I think we do need to look elsewhere. So thank you, everyone. Anybody have anything else before we move on? All right. Number 12, miscellaneous discussion, starting with you, Mr. Harold.

A couple of things real quick. First and foremost, this Saturday is our annual Fiery Foods Festival downtown, so we invite all of the public to come down there. It starts at noon and goes until 6 p.m. There will be a lot of great contests and vendors and all kinds of fun things going on downtown. There was a comment earlier during our public comment session with regards to flock cameras. What gets talked about in that too is our ALPRs, our automated license plate readers. So just wanted to report that the police department has resumed use of the automated license plate reader systems as we've developed policies that are now fully compliant with the new Washington state laws and requirements. So those have begun their usage again and wanted to let the council and the public know that. And then finally, I asked Chief Cook to provide an update on our new partnership program with Amazon regarding helmets for kids within our community who operate e-scooters and e-bikes.

Well, Mayor, Council, I am pleased to report that with the City Manager's Office, we've developed a contact system from the state level who is helping us here with our our centers here with donations of helmets i know that everybody's concerned about safety and what we're seeing with youth riding e-bikes and scooters and they're going faster than ever today we had another accident with the 14 year old and And that is reported to not have a helmet on during that accident. So with Amazon, they have donated helmets. We've had four events with the partnership with the school where we have been giving those helmets out to kids who report that they have those type of devices, bikes or e-bikes. And so we're pleased to be working with them. I had a meeting with their representative today and they are interested in continuing this relationship when it comes to safety and kids. And so we're looking at ways to do that to further our youth's safety.

I'd like to follow up that with a question. Chief Cook, so if there are members of the public that would like a helmet for their children, are those still available and how would they get access to them?

So they are limited available right now, but I think we can access more. Right now we're doing them at events, but I think we are absolutely open if somebody is in need of one of those to contact the police department and we'll get them a hold of Tom Yaswinski, who is our resource officer who is handling those.

Thanks for your work on that. Anything else, Mr. Stewart? Mr. Perales.

In regards to the helmets, I don't know what the public engagement piece looks like, but I think attending events where there's lots of people. I went to the football game last week and tons of people were there. So I don't know, perhaps you and Amazon can set up a table or just an information booth, hand out flyers to people. There are a lot of kids, and I'm sure a lot of those kids are riding scooters and e-bikes. just a way to engage. I see an officer there. Maybe that's something he can do while he's there. He's obviously providing security help, but maybe he can talk with kids as they walk in, as they're walking around and stuff like that, have helmets out perhaps. That's just the thought. Another thing that was brought up earlier from a constituent was perhaps we have a landing page that talks about flock cameras. You know when we implement. I mean they've been around in Pasco for a long time. You know it's but obviously this Kind of issue that's came up in the past year or two is relatively new a lot of people didn't know they were there so I think as a Constituent said having to pay to talks about it. You know I think I gathered some information not too long ago about the About the red light cameras and how many tickets and stuff so just having that information on our website so people can get our perspective on it and stuff like that. I'm a supporter of them. I think a lot of people are going to be running for council next year are going to probably be asked that question. But I think we need to provide a stance as to why we are implementing them and using them. And we had a presentation a couple months ago. So just kind of regurgitating that information to the public that they are a tool we use and we've seen success with them. I think that's probably the best thing that we can do right now. We haven't had anyone come in here and say, turn them off. We haven't had any instances, as far as I know, of people trying to cut them down and stuff like that. I probably shouldn't even say that because people are going to get the idea, but we just haven't seen that as opposed to other areas. So I wanted to kind of just put that out there. And then lastly... Obviously, I get a lot of emails and phone calls about stuff. I did have a constituent reach out to me. He's concerned about fugitive dust. I've had other individuals reach out to me in regards to this issue, in regards to construction next to older residential homes, flooding, washouts. One individual sent me pictures of a washout almost into their pool. That would have been really bad. Um, and it was adjacent to new construction. Um, this individual sent me this because he wants to know if the city would pay this invoice. Um, he had to clean his house, his home multiple times now. Um, and it's cost him 189 bucks because he's made complaints. And I appreciate the city manager going out and speaking or going out and seeing the issue. I mean, but this 189 bucks is, you know, that's, that's a lot of money. especially to individuals, in this case, who are on fixed incomes. And they're dealing with this fugitive dust because of construction and stuff like that. We want to see growth, but at the same time, you know, I appreciate us backfilling those code enforcement roles, but, you know, I just think about the many individuals who are paying for this. And honestly, I saw some signs this past week say, hey, we clean houses. It's like, so obviously people are getting into the market that people need their houses cleaned, obviously. But I don't think we should get to that point. I think we need to hold our contractors accountable in regards to storm water prevention measures and fugitive dust. And so I just want to bring this to the attention of the council. Again, this individual actually mailed this to the city. It was in my folder. I was wondering if he was going to email it to me, but he actually sent it to me. And that's an invoice from Trishine Window Cleaning for $189. And so I did email and tell him, the city's not going to pay for that, but I get your point. And so I told them I would share it with you guys. So other than that, appreciate it. Thank you.

Thank you. Anybody have anything else? Just wanted to bring up the email I sent you guys earlier today about our first Monday meeting of the new year. Any thoughts on that? Tuesday or just wait until the 11th? You guys, 11th? 11th. Okay, consensus on the 11th. And I guess I would take the other side. I guess just to close this out for the evening of the flock cameras, you guys. I am really struggling with them and I'm probably done at this point. I know they are a huge value to our police department, especially in capturing the worst of the worst. I mean, we're talking kidnappers. We're talking other felonious issues throughout, but... this is just an ongoing topic we have about liberty and law and order and where do we draw the line and I think everybody's going to draw the line in a different place in their mind or you know somewhere in the law but in my mind this is this is where we draw and I know you guys we are tracked through placer AI where you shop and where you where your origination was before you went and shopped and where you go after you shopped and we are being tracked in many ways and we sign those user agreements and everything but at the same time I think there's a line as a society we need to draw somewhere and for me this is it I'm not saying you know not pushing for you guys to you know nod heads to pull the plug tonight and everything like that but I think that's a direction that at least I would like to, you know, see us move in. Me and Council Member Perales aren't going to maybe necessarily see this eye to eye, but it's something, you know, I would like to see us discuss further. Maybe not put it on staff's agenda right now, as I know they're trying to deal with the budget and everything like that. But at the same time, you guys, I just, for us to continue to be a free society, we have to draw the line somewhere. And I'll be honest with you guys. In general, I don't trust the government. I know that's kind of crazy being the mayor to say that. I do not trust the government. You know who else I don't trust? Corporations. I do not trust them either. Though corporations have brought us endless good things and quality of life to our human experience. And I think government is a gift from God to restrain evil. But at the same time, they're very corrupt. You know who I trust, you guys? individuals to make the best decisions they can for themselves and though we are also you know working from a depraved point of view I would put my money with individuals rather than some of the large groups for tracking and keeping track of us so with that said that's where I'm at I want to be on the record for it and at the soonest point three of others of you agree with me gone as far as what I think so Anyways, anybody have anything else for the good of our city tonight? Not seeing any, we're going to move on to executive session number 13. What do you got, about a 40-minute one tonight, Mr. Stewart?

We don't have one this evening. You're scaring me there, Mayor. It's not funny. It's not April Fool's Day.

Sorry. Good. Yeah, I'm not seeing one either. Number 14 is adjourned. This meeting at 1010 is adjourned. Thank you.

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