Board of Zoning Appeals - Regular Meeting

I aliance to the flag of the United States of America to the stands one nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Have the roll call here. Here. Well done. Okay, we have a quorum. Is there the minutes of the last meeting? I have an approval for the minutes of the last meeting. So, okay. Second. So, approved. All those our first case call what a second to say all those in favor had a motion in a second to approve the minutes say all those in favor voting you need to vote on the minutes.

Oh yeah. All in favor say I. I opposed. Okay. Minutes have been approved. Our first case tonight in old business is Timothy and Monica Evans 147 East 50 South in Valreso Morgan Township low density single family development 5.07 acres. Uh the motion to deny because of a withdrawal of the request to allow homeschooling with hands-on learning for children with special needs. Um, all we need to do is Is that a voice vote or Yes. With ballot vote? No, it's voice. All in favor of denying this case say I. I. Opposed. This case was denied. I did have a question. What? Do you know why they withdrew it? She just withdrew it. But we need a motion and we need a second to make a motion to deny case UP204-66. Second. A motion to commit to deny and uh second. Uh so all in favor of denial say I I opposed. Okay. Case was denied. Did they not get uh necessary? They withdrew. Well, yeah, but it was You don't know why, huh? No, she just decided to move forward. I think it was personal reasons. The uh new business of case for the public hearing. I'm going to read the rules of conduct. At a public hearing before the

board, the petitioner or the proponent shall first present the facts and arguments in support of the case. Those who oppose the petitioner shall follow. Petitioner shall then have rebuttal time at the conclusion of those up opposing the petition. Those opposed shall then be allowed a total of maximum of 10 minutes to review any new uh statements made uh by the petitioner and and to re to impose any time limitations on either the petitioner or the respondent and limit the public comment to those determined by state statute to be interested parties. Written remmonstrances shall be accepted by the board but need not be read into the board's record. This then concludes a public hearing. To maintain orderly procedure, each side shall proceed without interruption by the other. All all material presented to by the petitioners and or the admonstrators or supporters to the petition including photographs shall become the property of the board and part of the record. Our first case is uh Justin Holland 690 North 50 West in Valrazo Liberty Township rural residential district 4.25 25 acres to allow the existing residents on a Mr. Jason. Yep. Justin Holland, I just want to um give a little background that this parcel he just purchased this in 2022, Justin. Yeah. Okay. The structures that are on this parcel have been on this parcel since 1974. He went into the department to upgrade the septic and

that's when he knew that there was two residents on one parcel. So there's two residents on one parcel and that's coming in here for so but all the structures have been there. There's nothing being built. Everything's been existing since um I think 2007 they did like a subdivision control and separated that parcel from the one adjacent to it. Um so I just want to give a heads up that It's not anything new. These structures have been there. He's just up trying to upgrade his septic system. All right, Justin. I'm sorry. Go ahead. So, the the long of the short is there's a main house. You have to state your name and address. Justin Holland, 17 Dunes Forest Trail, Porter, Indiana. So, there is a house that's existing that my son lives in. And there is another house that when they separated the land that they put a road across the leech field for and basically destroyed it. So, since the leech field that is on there needs to be upgraded anyways, we were hoping to hook that back into the same leech field getting, you know, properly sized obviously, um, and allow my mother, who is getting a little bit older and having a hard time handling her stairs at her house, to live in a flat house. Five minutes for my son. Love block. Okay. That's it. Let me see. That's the right one. To wish you very well. We have two two people here tonight. Two two folks. Patrick um I can't read your last name. Patrick, are you here?

I don't think he's for this case. Is it for the case UV 2025? Yeah. Yes. That's what he signed. Oh, then he signed the wrong one. That's not the one he needs to be on. Oh, he signed the wrong one. And then call the other sign the wrong one. Okay. Then there's um Medina. Uh She signed the wrong one, too. They want they want to be on Okay. These are both speaking in favor. Okay. So, they signed the wrong one. Apologize. Okay. So, nobody has signed in to speak against anybody wants to speak against this case here. Uh then I'll call the first component for the case and is Patrick Warfick not here and then Madna is there uh Madna here. What is No, that's that's the same. No, they signed these two these two be on for for the case, right? Yeah, this is Well, this is sign they signed the wrong one. It should be on Okay. They they they want to be on this the last one. So they should all three be on here. Oh, okay. So So there's no one that signed in for this one. Okay. Nobody signed for or against this case. Is that ahead and sign this and I'm going to open it to the board. Do we public comment? Let's do this real quick. Is there anybody that would like to speak for or against this current case? That's a one. Come on up to the mic. Ask your question to give us your name and address. And associated with a pond. There's a pond.

Your name and address. Sue Williams and I live uh 70 West 700 North. So the only question I have I don't have any problem with with the situation at all. Um we pond and we have somebody that we we we uh call to keep the pond um with aqua and all this stuff and keep all things fresh and and so forth. There's there's quite a bit of money that goes into that sometimes. We know yes that everybody on the parcels submit so much money in the case you're you have right so in the past they have so I just wanted to make sure that when we have two that that would be two people okay I mean let's address your comments to the board please he'll answer your question oh okay address your comments to the board so the question I guess would be we have a um a fee like it's not a homeowners because we don't have homeowners but with every parcel of land people we have agreed that we submit so much money let's say it's $400 for the upkeep of the pond we all live and have rights to the pond okay so now there will be two um buildings on that well the the building's already there to be honest we're just putting it back to the way it was originally Correct. And Tom, there was another person prior to you living there. So, we had the Franens living there. Okay. And then they had the same building. Tom lived there and he also pitched to submit. I mean, that's fine. Just FYI. That's fine. Okay. I mean, the other thing that I'll talk to you later about it, but I think

we'll wait till after she then you can make your comments. I I That's my only question. He was just answering her question. Yeah. Not not a problem. So, and I I got other ideas for the P, but I'll talk to you later. Not great. Are you good? I'm good. Okay. Good. Is there anyone else that like to speak or Okay, I'm going to let you go ahead and respond. Like I said, I have no problem with what you ask for. All right. U Luther, you got anything? Yeah, I'm This property was split. Is that correct? Correct. And before it was split, there was the smaller house had its own leech field. Is that correct? Correct. But when it was split, the leech field is on the other side. The other side. So we don't have a leech field for that property. Correct. Okay. So, we we've been working with uh Soil Solutions to get a um design put together that's going to be big enough for both houses. Okay. Okay. It needs to be replaced anyways. It's 60 70 years old. So, do you just you just need the varian you can even get the second system? Correct. And you're not building anything? No, that's already there. I don't really have an issue with And it had plumbing. I mean, it was actually the house. Like there's the old kitchen. So, as an example, you have a Who's living in the house? The the one that we're trying to put back. Nobody's living there now because it's doesn't You can't use the toilet. There's no Yeah. The only thing I have to The only

thing I have to say about this property is the condition of the property is pretty bad. Okay. A lot of junk. Okay. When I drove in, I I talked to somebody there. I don't know who. Probably my son. Okay. Well, one of the things that I would like to recommend to the board here is that this place be cleaned up. Okay. the jump be removed, especially the front yard and along the side going back to that beautiful home back there that somebody built. So, that would be part of anything that I would we can submit it to the code enforcement officer to have them go out there and check it. Okay. Does that sound like an idea? Yes. U there any we have any other questions? more for Scott. So, traditionally we do something like this, we do it for a time period just because we're fixing a historical issue. Sure. That would not happen now. Sure. Yeah, there is no other way to move forward individ. attempting to do the right thing at this point in time fix. We're now in a position to bring them as much into compliance as we can from the 100 years of plan that's gone on the property. You could put in the motion that Okay, ready for a motion? Make a motion we approve case UV 2025-5 the conditions of submitting to code compliance as previously mentioned and also with the stipulation that only

uh close relative can ever use the second residence. If if uh during some period down the road the person living there now is not there, you can't rent this out. But you know that's fine. This can't be used as a rental propert. That's fine. So that it'll eventually be me. So you understand. That's my motion. Do we have a second or period of what? I have a question for council. Yes sir. If for the last 100 years has the house been there 100 years 19 I don't know more about a hundred but it's all the structures there have been there a long time property card it's 1924. Yeah. Okay. So my question is, can we limit the ability for him to only rent this to a relative if he's been if it's been there and they've been using it? Uh, you know, for anybody that wanted to rent it for 100 years. Well, it hasn't been rented though. They're just noticing everything. Go ahead. Has the second residence has it been traditionally a rental unit? It's been nothing to this point. It's been useless because we bought it after they destroyed the leech field. So you've never Oh, right. And there's no one currently. Correct. Given that I believe Okay. Need a second. Second. We have a motion on a second to approve. It's a

powerful writing. I got it to write. Thank you. Motion for case-d folks. Good luck. The next case is case UV2 282 2025-7 U Austria Medina block lot 7 on uh Ora Drive in Clearwater subdivision of Valreso uh world residential uh to allow storage of landscaping business equipment existing garage work trucks within the lot. Okay. A little background on this research. And there's no house on this parcel. Looks like the gentleman that owned the house with the parcel sold the house to one person and sold the garage to I'm assuming these people. So they house on their property. All it is a garage. Okay. Would you like to state uh your case for the board? Please state your name and address first. All right. My name is Josea. Uh I live in 1359 Mascarata Drive here in Malbor. And I'm off Medina and I also live in 1359 Mascarat Drive. So we purchased these parcel in 2023. Uh like she said, the garage was already there and we our

intention was to use it for storage. We use it personal storage, but we were al also using it for business storage like you know wheelbarls and other stuff, landscaping stuff. Uh nothing is outside the property. There's no bricks, there's no um rubble, nothing outside the property. The only thing outside the property is uh three dump trucks in a trailer that are really barely there because there we like the shop. We the employees get there, they get the stuff they need, they get the work trucks, and they leave their cars there. There's never anything parked outside the property. Everything's in the driver, in the driveway or inside the property. There's no extra propaganda. There's no extra advertisement of the business. Uh except whatever is on the cars like the, you know, the logo and stuff. When we purchased the property, there was trailers. There were some uh dump trucks in the property that were used before the owner before for years. So, we had no idea that was that was a residential uh lot and not a u commercial even though almost across from us two houses down it's the lakes and parts department and then family express like right around the corner. So, I get it that you know we have been there for almost two years. We had I think one complaint and to be honest with you I'm not sure if that complaint is about if it's the noise or just the cars being parked in the driveway. Um, we have a business. It's been 10 years or so that we have it. Uh, a lot of our supplies that we buy and spend is in the community. 90% of the stuff we buy is within business, uh, familyowned business in the area. So, we don't buy from big companies, seminars, and other stores. 90% we spend in the community. We are creating jobs for the people in the as well. And we're just trying to make a living and grow the company. And this was, you know,

seemed like a good place to start. So, we still use the garage. It's a two door garage and we still use it for um storage or personal property like you know um forers and things like that. So, yeah, we bought it from George. He's the owner of a horses. So, he used to when I first went in state your name. My name is Jo. Yes, I did. Is it at the beginning? Well, we bought it from Mr. George. He's the owner of fores landscaping. And then when I first went and take a look over the of the area of the of the lot, you know, I feel kind of comfortable with it because he told me that he was there already for 10 years using the garage as a storage and he had when I went when the first time that I went and check it out was his stroke and his trailer with the logo of the horses landscaping company in there. He also used to own the garage right across the street from mine. and he still owns the house. It's a two-story house. It's a green house with a beige uh siding that he's renting. Now, last year I was he he used to rent it for, you know, these people that were having uh my I know my neighbor across the street from me, he was having problems with the kind of people. They don't live there anymore, but they leave a ton of trash in that area. Oh, and then I also want to add on that you know that that's a um end street and um there were potholes of the size of craters and my husband and the neighbor across I think his son is here too. They paid to gravel the the road twice. Um, yeah, nobody complained about that because there were holes huge. And so, um, I spent one day with three guys compacting those holes with

grout when running the compactors back and forth because it was you couldn't drive, especially if it rained. There were puddles everywhere. So, they did that twice and like I said, they chipped from their own pocket to gravel the the end of the street or the whole street, actually. Yeah. It was about 200 feet that we fixed. two to 300 ft. Okay. Is there anyone here to speak in favor or against? I'm going to open the questions for the board. Jim, you got any You want to close the public hearing? Yeah, close the public hearing. Okay. Sorry. Any uh com I apologize. I didn't look at the parcel from what I didn't understand you too well, but you bought this and the van before uh had stored stuff outside inside. Inside and outside, correct? For years. Yes. For about 10 years. Okay. Well, that's certainly a dilemma. Let's see what the other people have to say. I was just going to make a comment. If if this were to go through, I would be I would want to make sure that everything is stored inside the landscape bricks or bags of dirt or anything outside. Yeah. the most a truck in the in the driveway street parking. Correct. This isn't where you want you don't run your business out of this, right? This is just free stores. This is just pretty much storage. We couldn't get an address like a mailbox for that property. Like how much traffic would you say on a

daily basis or weekly basis people come and going from this? I see I see early morning like around 7:30 probably three cars that pay us for there. That's about it. Well, we have a we have three employees and my husband so I would say three four people. will come in. So they go in there daily to get get things. Yeah. Yeah. Twice a day like once in the morning get stuff maybe once in the morning, once in the evening when they have to drop off. And it's not early in the morning like 6:00 in the morning. It's usually like 7:30, sometimes 8. And the latest they usually show up is 5:00, 5:30. No weekends, no holidays. I think I'd be okay with it as long as we had conditions where nothing was stored outside. maybe did it for a short period of time to make sure there was no complaints as traffic safety noise. Want to u make a motion to approve? My recommendation I I I think we need to take another look at this and get a little bit more information before I would like that too. I'm not suggesting that you're going the wrong direction. It's just this needs to be unpacked a little bit more. Seems like a pretty dense residential area and and and it is a dense residential area. It feels like they're innocent third party purchasers. So, it's not really necessarily their issue at this point, but they're it is their issue. So, right, we got stuck with this. Yeah. And that's the thing like that brush was already in the property. So, how did it get through and where they sell? It's the same way the one across the street. It's another garage. I'm going to ask you a personal question. I'm assuming you did not have to use finance in the buy this. We did not. We did not. That's why it made it.

If it was financed through a financial institution, it would have never got sold. That's the That's the slippery course to get through. I would just ask for at least another 30 days to wrap our arms around it. And I'm I'm continue with that and because I'm very tempted. I I I think we might have another one exact type situation on the screen. Look to your left. I mean to your right. You see the two 50s next to each other? I do. Same looks like same situation. I can't click on it to see if it's the same owner, but Oh, that's that's my neighbor across the street. Yeah. Like I say, they they did it. I mean, this what they did with this one. This is another wondering how small parcel. You can't. So in very high level, I think it's only coming in here with a survey and a deed. You get somebody to come in, put down the legal, you put it on a deed, and you go record it. So how how the if it's financed, it blows up because the the bank wants to know, is this a buildable lot in the proper zoning? The banks have ramped that up. point where in our old pyramid scheme of zoning where you could do anything below you but not above you, we started to have banks come back and say, "Well, on a commercial loan, we want to be a commercial property. On a residential loan, we want it on residential property." So, that's how we

don't get more of these. But just here we have two on the screen. So again, this isn't directed at them, but we have a a problem that I think we need to put our arms around before we start to solve. It's just two properties. Maybe that's a different solution to something a little bit more widespread. We continue till the next till the next meeting because we're making a substantial step here. I mean, we're taking a piece of residentially zoned property that was plaid means subdivide. That's even another since we're not in a meets and bounds situation. So, let's 30 days would be my request before we attempt to fix this. Make a motion to continue this for 30 days. U 2025-7. So, um It will be continued to the next meeting which will be March 19th at 5:30. Okay, that's my motion. Okay, a motion's been made. Is there a second? Yes. Motion made and seconded to continue this case for 30 days March 19th. We need a vote in favor. We need a ballot vote or no. All in favor? I opposed. The motion carried three to nothing. Our next case, case UV 02025-7 um

Austria Medina. No, we're on D8. Oh, this is -8. I'm sorry. uh Cole Garrison 5 uh 452 West 700 North in Valpreso and Ports Township Road Residential uh district 1.9 acres to permit business activities including the parking of vehicles and trailers on the property. Cole Garrison, 452 West 700 North, Valpreso, Indiana. Um, I run a small dumpster rental and junk removal company out of my home. Uh, I shouldn't say out of my home. I park my trailers there. Um, I would like to continue doing so. I don't have any employees show up. It's just me at the most. There's maybe three, four trailers there. Um, and I don't cause excessive noise. I I don't even really go over there uh until I drop my kids off at school in the morning. So, not we hours in the morning, it's we hours of the night. I simply just need a spot to store my trailers um during nighttime hours and sometimes daytime hours. Most of the time they're rented out. Um I don't have any junk there. As as I've explained, this is my home, so I don't want any junk there either. Uh anybody can come by anytime. It does not smell. Um it's simply a dump trailer and a rolloff trailer and a pickup truck. Uh and I have two acres. So, in the back bottom left there is where it would be. Um, I brought a neighbor here with me to uh speak on my behalf to say that not out there just causing a loud disturbance or a large smell. Um, that's all I have. I mean, I brought pictures to show what it would look like when all the trailers are

there. Yeah. Thank you. Okay. You want to close? Sure. The pictures have to be submitted and they have to remain in the file. Oh, they're ready. It's hard to see, but yeah, it's a uh Oops, excuse me. Um, it's a gooseeneck rolloff, so it's not like a CDL large rolloff truck. It's like a a trailer rolloff for 14t long. Is there anyone here to speak for? For or against? Nobody. He's here for me. There's a microphone. There's a microphone right there. Yes. Right up here front. State your name and address. Sure. My name is Timothy McDonald. I live at 699 North 450 West right across the street right across the street from he bought his house approximately the same time I bought my house that was the first name pretty much all I can say is I've never heard you know he's been a great neighbor um whenever I need anything help come by he takes care of his property real well never knows he

I never heard anything or anything like that. I just I don't know anything about this case wise, but I just know what kind of person is. Okay. Okay. I did have another neighbor that gonna be here tonight in the Wolf mansion, his wife. Anyone else to speak? Uh are you are you finished? What's that? Are you finished? Yeah. Okay. Anyone else to speak uh for or against? Yes. Okay. Come on up. Yep. Yeah, there's a microphone on that end. Sorry. So, [Music] I I don't want to get too near. Okay. Yes. Patrick Wagner. My property is the one. State your name and address. Sorry. Sorry. Patrick Wagner. W A G S E R 458 West 700 North. It is the property located on uh the west side of the property. Exactly. Yes. So, I've already submitted a complaint. He's violating the setback laws. 25 ft. He's within 9 ft. And I've unfortunately submitted a uh packet that's like 20 something pages long to you guys. Sorry. Anyways, the um initial reason that I'm doing this is pack it in today. That's why you have it. Yes. Oh, sorry. Uh yes. Yeah, we have it. Sorry. Time to go through it. So, yes, these rolloff dumpsters are very dangerous. They are and you have to back them up. So, you imagine a truck with a 17 foot thing. So the issue is that uh not other than

potential you know uh toxic and everything like that. This is my son loves trucks. So the stand Oh yes. Oh yeah. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Oh yeah. address. So, the initial issue is that he ran over to the dumpster. So, the neighbors on my right have a variance. I don't have an issue with it. They groom dogs. Great neighbors. Love them. This is a completely different situation. This is an attractive nuisance. So, he ran over there thinking it was a truck, whatever. I thought it was cool. He couldn't see him, seven foot trailer, and he couldn't he could have just been killed. These are roll off. They tip all the way up. That's how they actually roll them off. It's not like a And then you unhook them. It's they roll off. They extend all the way up 17 feet and roll off. And he's backing up the whole way. So that's my primary issue as a in addition to the packet that I gave you. So short and simple is attractive nuisance. Um I think the board would be willful and wanting if they granted this variance. Okay. Thank you. Sorry. Anyone else or against? I'm going to close the public hearing. Oh, we got a you have to Yeah. What do you Sure. Uh I also have three small

children. Whatever situation he just mentioned did not h excuse me happen whatsoever. I have no idea where that came from. Um it it's on my land. I'm very careful with what I do in my work. Uh, and if it helps, I'm outside of the truck when the dumpsters roll off and on. I have a complete 360 view. Um, that situation about his son running over that that did not happen. That that's completely made up. Um, this guy's been harassing me and coming over taking pictures to the point where I've had to put a trespass warning in on him. So, that story is that's invalid. Um, but I I would just I have three small children myself, so I could see how that could be an issue, but I'm very careful as it is. Thank you. Okay. Anyone else want to speak? Yes. So, my name is Katie Wagster. I also live 458 West 700 North. This property to the left, he's got acres. We've lived there for six years. We have a sandbox, a swing set, and a playhouse right behind our house. There's a pair there. Our kids play back there. We've got four small kids. This lot comes 9 ft from my property line. So, if you look to the very left of his, it's not by his house. He doesn't have the truck always coming up next to the kids bedroom. He doesn't have a big old truck and little kids that want to watch us. That's next to my lot and it's disruptive. It is noisy. If you've ever heard a diesel truck coming up, you hear it. As soon as the truck moves the driveway, my son runs over to the window to see where the big truck is. It's an attractive nuisance. It's not safe. This is a residential area. We bought this house so we would have land for our kids to play, not have to worry about the

cars and everything. Planted land for our kids. We've had it for six years with no issue. Now, all of a sudden, he wants to dumpster business, which is fine, but it doesn't have to run next to my yard. The dumpsters don't need parked next to my yard. Resale value will drop from having a dumpster lot next to my yard. There's so many other issues. I'm have the company run your company, but it's not safe for my children, and it's not fair to the neighbors. This is You can't just buy a house and then all of a sudden decide this is a business I want to because there's space. This is a residential area. There's no other businesses like this around. This isn't something people are doing in the area. So, besides the safety issue, it's just it's a news and it's going to affect resale value. Okay. Thank you. Um, as far as the resale value goes, um, you know, they don't strike me as somebody who's worried about a resale value. their house hasn't had siding up until this year and now it's two different colors. Um, and as far as the safety concerns go, I mean, there's nothing stopping them from putting a fence up if if they're that concerned about it. Um, there's three other residentials or residences in that area that have commercial commercial zoning. I don't see an issue with what I'm doing. It's simply storage. I don't have any employees showing up. It's not we hours of the morning, we hours into the night. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Anyone else? I'm going to close the public hearing. Luther, you mentioned that there were commercial next door to you. Yeah, the Wolf mansion has a commercial zoning. Um I believe the guy across the street does as well. He's got trucks and trailers parked over

there. Bobcats running all day. Um and then a couple houses over also. Okay. What are you going to do if we don't approve this? I don't know. I just talked Okay. Gotcha. Yes, sir. Anything else? Yes, sir. I guess I'm kind of curious your answer to his question as far as what if we don't grant this alternative. I'm going to have to spend a extremely large amount of money to park them somewhere else on a commercial lot somewhere. This wasn't supposed to be permanent. It was really until we grew large enough to transfer to a commercial lot. This is really the starting point of the business. It's not a permanent thing. And how many trailers do you have right now? Two trailers, but three, like I said, it's a roll out. So, three of them roll off of the one trailer. So, it would be a total of three slots. Are you trying to scale this business? Are you looking to get more? Yeah. But I wouldn't there would be no more than what I have there now or have there now is what I'd be bringing there. That would be it. I I as kind of a question. What's the difference between like what he's trying to do or guy like me that has you know car trailer you know motorcycle personal use first making money for sure that's the line so that's commercial venture the problem I have with this your your property is right on the corner of the busiest

intersection probably in South Haven area or North Porter County um county road um for was it 425 uh 45 yeah 450 road goes all the way from route 30 to route and that four-way stop in front of your house is a heavily traffic area. Yes. The the other is um when you when you have a business like this or when you have outdoor story, you're going to be doing landscaping business, right? No. Grass? No, I just simply store the trailers there. I rent them out. Is what? I rent them out. So, I don't there's no no debris or anything. It's simply trailers parked. That's it. You have a twocar attached garage. I do. And you have a boat? I do. That's stored outside already, don't you? I do. You have a gravel driveway there? Yes. This a highly residential area. The Wolf Mansion across the street used to be a commercial venture and now it's private, but correct. All the houses up and down 700 are very nice residential homes. Sure. And I I'm really I'm apprehensive about outdoor storage in a high profile piece of property like this highly rural residential. So you can say I'm not in favor for a motion. You guys ready for a motion?

like to make a motion. I'll make a motion to deny this case. UV25 2025-8. Make a motion to deny. Now, I do have a question. Oh, sorry. Do we have a second? Second. We have a second for discussion. Sir, you may ask a question. So, what were you saying about the zoning across the street? Back to your question of what I would do if I denied it. I would rent the commercial across the street from my neighbor who's already offered technology. That's not commercial. He had offered it, said it was commercial, and I could park there. Well, I I don't think that's going to be a viable option. We're going to come back in this situation. Now, what about a fence? If it's you're worried about the commercial or residential area, how about if I put a fence up this spring? Clock in the public view. Motion's been made and seconded. Does the board have any more questions? Any more discussion? Uh I wouldn't mind hearing what he has to say, sir. Sure. Uh you know, I have I have no reason to decrease the value in the area. Uh, I also live here. This, from what I understand, before I bought this house, it was way worse than what it is now. Um, and I would not be opposed to putting a fence up come spring summertime to uh shield the public eye if if that's what it's concerned about. Any other questions? Anybody got anything else?

Okay. Yes. Is to deny 2025-im. Yes. Yes. Okay. That concludes that's the last case we have. Right. Thank you, sir. Thank you. A motion to close. Yes. Motion to close. Meeting's closed.