City Council - Regular Meeting

Okay, folks. Thank you for attending the Alawette City Council for January 27th, 2026. We're having some technical issues right now, so the camera will not be facing the council at this time until they can get it fixed, but we're going to go ahead and get started. Um, right now if we could please have the roll call here, Jennifer. Why don't we just talk loud? The online won't be able to hear us. Oh,

I'm hear it's a conspiracy. It's a winter storm. All right. Does that work? Yes. All right. Mayor Clark here. Chairman Prom here.

Council member Solomonov here. Uh, council member Pashan Helman here. Council member Lewis present. Okay. Right now, if there are any communications to share, would you please? So, I do have a written communication that we received from David Moons uh on Monday at 9:02 p.m. Uh yeah,

I would like the following message read in my absence tomorrow at council regarding the crecore parks partnership. My name is David Moons and I am a resident of 15 Ramsgate and Alvette and strongly support the reciprocal partnership agreement proposal between the parks departments of Crevecore and etcore hockey and golf facilities are frequented by Alvette residents and a discount extended to Alvette residents benefits our community. Additionally, bringing thousands of Crevecore residents into Five Oaks with further will further showcase Alvette as a community with great amenities and wonderful staff. This is a mutually beneficial agreement and I fully support it. Do we have any other communications? Okay, I'd like to make an introduction. Mr. James Hill is our new maintenance professional. Springing over eight years of hands-on experience to the role. As a natural problem solver, he takes pride in keeping facilities running smoothly and finding efficient solutions to change to challenges that may arise. When not on site, he is a dedicated husband and a father of two children. Ramsay seven, James five. He is a basketball and football enthusiast and will bring that same enthusiasm as a player, as a a team player, and that same kind of energy to everything that he does for the city of Alvette. I'd like to welcome you to the team. And um you and I get along pretty good because I'm a football enthusiast. I don't know if you know, but I played for the Rams for three years.

Yeah. For the new high school Rams. Yeah. It still counts to me. It's a good thing they worked up videoing But thank you very much, James, and welcome, sir.

All right. Um, now we'll go ahead and have our city manager's report, please. All right. I appreciate everybody's patience with our technical difficulties here. Look at

I think we have, in fact, uh, gotten the rear camera uh, up and running. So, All right. Uh, good evening. So, we have a couple of things uh for for this week. Uh, it snowed over the weekend if you um haven't been outside. And um first of all, congratulations and thank you to our public works department and our parks department who cleared sidewalks and parking lots and streets and culde-sacs uh all weekend in the very cold, frigid temperatures. So um I think they all deserve uh a round of applause and a pat on the back for the work that they did. Uh, and I will say I was at um a non city event uh this afternoon uh down at WashU and I had at least two people come up and say to me about how appreciative they were about the streets being plowed um in all of that. So I just want to publicly recognize our uh parks crew and our public works crews for their work today. Uh and so Republic Services um the trash schedule is going to be delayed one day uh this week as they are um of course wanting to get out and be safe and pick up trash recycling this week. So Republic Services is asking that all residents place their material out on their regularly scheduled service day and then leave it out there until it gets picked up. and they expect to have uh everything picked up by Saturday, January 31st. So again, uh pickup is delayed by one day, but they are asking everybody to put them out on your regularly scheduled collection day. Uh additional upcoming events, the

Citizens Police Academy, which is a cooperative um class for citizens with a variety of police departments in the area, they are taking registration. So, the first class begins February 18th. uh will continue on Wednesdays from 7:00 to 9:00 p.m. So, if you are at all interested in learning more about law enforcement and um the things that they do and and their equipment and the legalities of being a police officer, uh this would be a great opportunity for for regular citizens to do that. Um again, it is a cooperative effort. So if you are interested, you can certainly sign up um either with the code the QR code that's shown on the screen or with the link. You will go to the city of CRECOPS page and that is okay. You have landed on the right spot uh as they are part of the cooperative and they are handling registration. And then uh February 7th, Saturday, February 7th, we are hosting a craft and vendor fair at Five Oaks uh from 9:00 a.m. to 400 p.m. And so we would encourage anybody that wants to come and check out um various craft crafters and vendors uh to come out to Five Oaks to do that. The tables are sold out and the wait list is sold out. So I think we will have a number of people uh there. If you're interested to see what kinds of crafts and vendors were are available, um please follow the QR code. There's a list of a variety of things uh that will be there on that Saturday. Uh if you have a talent uh or you think you have a talent, we would ask and encourage you to come out on Thursday, February 26th out to Five Oaks. They're doing I think this is the third open mic night. Um and so there's a piano, there's a microphone. Uh we've had a

number of folks come and play the piano uh and uh share their talents with anybody who is interested. So at 7:15 it's free. Come on out um and join us. And so I would encourage everybody to sign up for all of that weekly which is the electronic newsletter that goes out on Mondays and shares all kinds of information about things that are going on in the city. And then lastly, here are some upcoming meetings uh both for city council and other city uh commissions. And then lastly, there are a couple of things um to to talk about. One is the rescheduled uh council retreat. And so there are three dates available um the February 28th, March 7th, and March 8th. Um and then we have the chamber firefighter and police officer of the year which is March 13th and then the SLAPKA prayer breakfast which is April 28th. So if there are council members who wish to attend those last two items, please let me know. Um the rescheduled uh council retreat, we can either talk about that now or we can talk about that towards the end of the meeting because I know we have a number of folks here who are here for the public hearing. So

would you like to talk about it? Okay, we'll talk we'll recircle back and talk about at the end of the meeting. Okay. Um and with that, I can answer any uh questions you might have on the city manager report. No questions from the council. Okay, we'll go forward. Um so we'll go ahead with our staff reports.

Okay, starting off with the fire department. So they did some Mayday training. Um, as you can see, they have some photos of firefighters um, training in situations where they might have to do some self-rescue or they may be disoriented or trapped. And so they do this Mayday training so that they have the skills to know what to do uh, in order to get out safely. uh parks and wreck have been doing a variety of things. So, one of the new things they did was a holiday light uh recycling. Um they have collected four trash barrels of lights. uh and based on feedback, they're going to start collecting uh after Thanksgiving next year as they learned that a number of folks um throw out their uh lights when they pull them out um to to hang them back up and find out that that they don't work. So, having the bins available earlier this year or this coming year will be um hopefully will collect more than four barrels. And then if you are out on the greenway, the parks crew built a flagstone path from the greenway to the restrooms in Indian Meadow Park. Um there wasn't an easy uh surface or way to get from the greenway to the bathrooms other than walking through the grass. So they've uh installed that. And then um the council may remember that um you bought brand new soccer goals this year and so the parks screw crew built a storage rack for those goals so that they can um be neatly put away and um all the pieces you know stay together and so that rack is located at the parks operations yard. So, they've been um busy this uh month.

In the planning department, um you can see uh Irvington Place is uh almost finished. The photos show from June of 2024 to this month of January of 2026. And so they are expecting those final inspections uh towards the end of February and into March and potentially some occupancies uh in March. So we're excited to have those apartments come online. Uh the police department every year does a cops for pets event. So, those photos up at the top show um the like eight boxes worth of pet supplies that were donated as well as the uh pet food that was donated to the St. Louis County Animal Shelter up on Bower. And then this uh last weekend, weekend before, they did a pet adoption event with the um St. Louis County uh shelter. They did it at Five Oaks. Uh, and they had at least two dogs, three dogs, four dogs, four dogs that were adopted out of that event. So, very successful, a good community event. Uh, and they're looking to partner again in the spring and potentially also partner with fire department to come up and do some kind of public safety uh, event with them. And then also with the police department, uh, with the cold weather, we are seeing uh, vehicle breakins occur. So, in the month of December, there were seven burglaries reported to the police department, and all seven uh involved someone breaking into the vehicle. And so, we just would like to remind everybody not to leave valuable items in your vehicles to please take those inside um so that

it's not attractive for uh for burglars. And then public works um prior to the snow they were pouring concrete uh on the east side of Hilltop uh working south from Chisum Court. So that's part of the community development block grant project uh putting that sidewalk in and then uh luckily January 20th before the snow came uh we received a 100 tons of road salt. So, the salt bin was full uh for them to use for this um particular snow event. And so, with that, I can certainly answer any additional questions you might have. Any questions from the council? No.

Go ahead, sir. Question on the soccer goals. Will we ever in the future cover them too for the winner? Is that something that's ever been discussed? Got it. Might be worth considering. Any other questions from the council? Okay, we'll go on. Um, next we'll have our director of finance, Mr. Darren Van, who will give our monthly financial report and our quarterly investment report. Mr.

M. uh mayor and council, we have our uh mid of our middle of our year review for our financial statements. Uh or not, sorry, just our financial reporting. Uh not much to report here. We see some uh sales taxes accelerate nicely. Um property taxes though are slower than we thought. Uh you probably read newspaper articles about the collections being a little behind because the uh there's a new system like we've been talking about at the county. uh the um online payment system was swamped. People were worried about getting uh paid so they went ahead and uh mailed in checks and so that takes a little longer to process. We we'll expect that to catch back up here in the next couple months. Uh utility taxes uh mixed but uh right at um right at our expectations. uh our general fund, those revenues are down uh where below where we where we'd expect by 182,000, but 480,000 of that is from the property tax bonus. Uh picked up a little there by our sales taxes, which is about 240,000 um above that category is now we didn't quite see it. We talked about the sales the use tax, but now the sales tax has been accelerating since November. Uh now reporting reporting good. Um let's go to our then um on the uh expenditures. We're right at our hit right on the nose about $10,000 um above where we thought. So all good there. Let's go to our chart there on the next page. Uh despite what I just said, the sales taxes there. You can see over time there. Uh you know, it's just uh we're on the orange line there. You get a little bit of a preview into January, we're on the low end. uh we're beating our expectations but you know you can see here that it's been a tempered expectations for the last couple years. Uh from there I don't have uh much else uh we can move into if there's no questions we can move into the uh quarterly financial report.

Go ahead sir.

Right. um what we would see now for our quarterly investment report. Uh not much action as far as changes from what what uh what has been uh we talked 3 months ago. Uh if we were to fast forward though into January with the influx of cash from property tax collections, we're going to see some of these those three-month ladders uh continue to to get bigger and bigger and then as we need the cash, we'll we'll um bring that money down. Let's go to the next page. And you can see the um top part those threemonth rolling treasuries or 90-day rolling treasuries. They're at two and a half million one there was at two. Uh now they're going to be pushing 3 million as we c forward just because of that influx of cash with property tax collections. I don't anticipate uh going long on any of the these CDs. You can see there's another one coming due that uh gray at the bottom. uh in May we'll start to see some of those 5%. Um CDs start rolling back uh off and I don't anticipate renewing them with anything. So uh that's would be uh conclude what I have for the quarterly financial or sorry quarterly investment report unless we have any questions.

Any questions from the council? Right. Mr. Man, thank you very much. Thank you, sir. Okay, we're going to go on with our um uh city council reports. Uh, council member Solomonov, do you have anything to report, sir? No report for this evening. Okay. Council member Pishan Helman, do you have anything to report?

Yes, I attended the Economic Development Commission last night. Um, and it was a while it was virtual, it was a very uh, productive virtual meeting, which was wonderful. Um, we discussed a tiered approach to our business outreach and really are honing in on um the way a strategic plan for approaching businesses and getting some feedback from businesses. So, uh, we discussed potentially adding in a meeting in February, um, which were not regularly scheduled for because we advised or the commission rather advised uh, staff to develop a survey that could go out to businesses to just help us get a sense of how businesses feel uh, we're doing, what we're doing well, where we could improve as a city, and to kind of give us a baseline sense of just how businesses are feeling about the city of Alvette And then also a discussion about more personalized outreach to some of our larger businesses that have a larger investment in the city. Um and a personalized outreach that would in potentially include uh council members if they're so willing um to meet on an individual basis with business representatives either with a commissioner or with staff. So those discussions are still ongoing, but just um potentially at a work session, we could discuss council members interest and willingness to meet individually with businesses. Um and the business of the year is going to be starting up again with uh voting for our businesses of the year. And that will be starting in February uh and going through March with the March 30th EDC meeting being when the commission will review all of the voting um submissions and make a decision on the different uh categories for businesses

of the year. Um and I think that is about it for EDC. Well, thank you very much. Uh, Council Member Lewis.

Uh, yes. Uh, PCDC met on the 15th and couple of topics they bring up. One, they've continuously week over week been working on the kind of priorities that we as a council sent to them and they're voting on it each week to understand kind of their impacts. And so in the in the near weeks, we're going to see kind of a rundown between what we sent as priorities, what they're seeing as priorities, so we can match those up and try to see how we then take action against them or what they want to kind of send back to the council if we want to talk about legislation. So looking forward to seeing that. Uh further questions on storm water, just always a topic of conversation with neighbors. How do we make sure we're looking at the larger, you know, implication of storm water and runoff and challenges? And then a further motion just to um ease the ability for staff to um approve solar panels because we really haven't, you know, made a lot of challenge with solar panels. We want to make it easy for people to um you know, get those permits and get them moving forward. So that was, you know, kind of brought forward and we're moving forward on that as well.

Okay. Thank you very much. Uh Mayor Pro Tim Wild.

Yes, thank you. Um I attended the parks and recreation meeting last week. Um it began with a discussion about this um creep reciprocation agreement which I believe will be presented with later this evening and um I want to recognize that our parks chair is here as well in the Sue Rich and um it it's a very exciting opportunity. Um we also reviewed the draft plan for 2026. Um the four pointers right now are are the dark sky international UNSP certificate, community outreach opportunities, the green team and the parks visits. And um that's something that people may not realize is that each month um they keep track of which commissioners go to which parks and they give feedback and they also talk with people. So they're like the ambassadors to the park year round. Um not like they are. Um, we also, um, knowing that the treat retreat was supposed to happen last week, I had some questions that I was going to relay, so I'll hold off those until we get together. Uh, we got a monthly update on Five Oaks. Um, they're seeing spikes in November and December, especially when school breaks were in session. Um, and an an increase in daily use since the new year. Um, and hopefully that will stay strong. Um, for thank for turkey trot. This year there were 2,75 runners and the donation made to the Harvey Cornbloom food pantry was 31,500. Um, and then the other exciting thing is basketball is in season. So if you go to Five Oaks, you got to park on the lower lot. So don't wear shorts in this cold weather. Um, it it the the increase in basketball this year is up by 52%. We have 868 children or students um in the recreational league which is pretty amazing. Um and then I also was going to

plug the February 7th craft vendor fair which our um uh city manager did or manager did earlier and it's great because people are coming the vendors are coming from throughout St. Louis. So thank you.

Okay. Thank you very much. And I did not have anything to present at this time. So, we're going to go on to number eight, hearing from citizens. Are there anyone or any citizens in the audience that would like to speak? If you would come up, state your name and address. It's not on

Sue Rich 8927 Hilltop Manor Drive. Uh, as Maxine already outed me, I'm the chair of the park commission. I just wanted to take a moment um and say that uh the commission was very excited and unanimously uh recommend that we go get into an agreement reciprocally with CREC Corps uh and that it's a win-win for both cities and we look forward to starting it and then uh increasing it over time. So, thanks. Appreciate it.

Thank you very much. Okay, we're going to go on to um item number 19, bill 3056. Can we have the title read, please? Bill 3056, an ordinance authorizing a special permit use to 9321 Olive LLC to permit Mercy Healthcare Organization to operate a C centralized ambulatory pharmacy on the property grounds addressed as 9321 Olive Boulevard, zoned LID, Light Industrial District. first reading and public hearing. Let's see. Uh open to the public hearing here. Go ahead, sir.

All right. Good evening, mayor, members of the council. Uh my name is Carlos Tjo. I'm the director of planning and community development for the city of Alvette. And tonight I am here to talk about bill uh 3056 which is a ordinance that would authorize the issuance of a special permit uh for uh Mercy the health of care organization to operate a centralized ambulatory pharmacy at the property address is 9321 Olive Boulevard. Um and there uh I'm going to go over uh the the locations and specifics and then talk about the special permit process and why it's before the council uh tonight. The uh the next slide will give you an overview of where the building is. It's at the north uh west corner of Deman Industrial and Olive Boulevard. It's got that little red dot on there. It's a 8.4 acre site and it's got a um pretty one of our largest buildings almost over 105,000 square feet. uh used to belong to US Bank. Prior to that, Mark Twain Bank and then I heard it even went back to uh Carter Carburetor uh when they manufactured here. Uh at its peak, it had over 350 employees that were part of a US Bank call center. Uh they ran a lot of their mortgage operations uh in that facility. Uh and then they so slowly vacated the site after uh you know postcoid uh overtime. So it was a it was a pretty significant loss. It was uh one of our top five employers uh in our community. Uh and again, it's one of the largest building facilities that we have uh in there, especially in our industrial park. Um we received a petition to uh convert the building uh and retrofit the building for a centralized ambulatory pharmacy to be operated by Mercy. uh in the LI district which is the underlying zoning. Uh it would be considered like under medical offices and clinics and would require a special permit meaning that it has to be

reviewed by the commission. Commission approves a site plan and forwards a recommendation to the council. Uh and then the council authorizes it through the adoption of an ordinance. And why do we do that? In the next slide, we'll kind of go over that process. Uh the special permit is somewhat unique. It's generally a use that's called out within the underlying zoning district. Uh but that type of use usually has some special characteristics that require uh you know an additional level of review and some scrutiny and therefore the commission does uh primarily the the code review the design review on behalf of the council but then forwards a recommendation to the council be being the use uh because sometimes those uses can or require some modifications in order to make them compatible with the surroundings um uh in there. So, uh it's a basis to determine suitability. It's not permitted unless the commission and the council uh authorize it. And then the city also does have the you know the the authority to uh to um deny or even evoke a special permit if it starts to fall um incompatible with its surroundings or uh no longer complies with the initial authority. When we review a special permit, the council is supposed to look at the potential impact of the use, the underlying zoning, and what the intent of that zoning is, how it furthers the goals of our comprehensive plan, is the site suitable for this type of use, what is the impact to the surrounding areas. Uh the city also reserves the right to require some additional things for its compliance and to make it more palatable to its surroundings where it's buffering architecture, open space, uh and and other kind of limitations like limitations on hours of operation and things of that nature that you can impose uh to make sure that uh it's consistent with the area. And of course, we use the 2024 comprehensive plan as a uh as a guiding document in in this review. This kind of checks off on a lot

of those boxes. uh in there and then we look at what is the purpose of intent of the light industrial district. You have those uh in in your uh in your reports uh in there. The next slide kind of goes into the specifics of the special permit. You know, it requires site plan review which is conducted through the commission. It's got to be listed uh as a as a use in the underlying zoning district. Further a comprehensive plan. I'll continue to stress that it's suitable to the environment and surroundings. It's complimentary to its neighbors. It mitigates spillover effects and allows the city to require additional things like uh buffering, aesthetic enhancements, open space limitations and ensures that there's an adequacy of public services and that's always a hard balance uh in there. But uh we had discussions on on this use being uh in the medical uh uh side. Uh the next slide will kind of give you overview where the location is. This is looking at the corner u of Dealman Industrial and Olive. I'm looking northwest. Uh it's it's a pretty sizable building. It has some pretty significant trees along the the uh uh along Olive. Uh it's a one-story building, all masonry. Um and there at this point, it was pretty much vacated by by US Bank. Uh I think the picture is about a year or two old. The city is working on doing some uh roadway improvements here uh on this lane, that southbound lane that gets goes on towards Olive. Um, we're working with the petitioners and part of the conditions are for them to uh facilitate in the process of re-engineering and closing that apron, moving it further back towards the second uh pole light uh up there. So, there's a little bit more queuing space. They've been working cooperatively with Mr. McGregor uh in there. And again, this is uh an improvement that emphasizes the the strength and and u and and and taking advantage of of federal funds. Uh I think a majority of this is is being funded uh federally and through uh uh in there. And uh and then

with this opportunity uh to move that uh that that drive apron, we we kind of enhance the uh uh the entrance way there into the industrial park and make it uh uh you know meet some of the goals and standards both of the current comprehensive plan and the previous one. The next slide will give you the specifics on overall. There is no there is not going to be any building addition uh or any uh additional levels that are added. They're retrofitting the existing building shell. Uh they will do some uh aesthetic enhancements along the Olive Boulevard side uh and bring those to the commission. Uh they will do improvements along Olive Boulevard to uh to further our streetscape standards, expanding the sidewalk uh and those things. Again, they're working cooperatively with public works with relocating uh the apron on Dealman Industrial. Uh they also will work with us to put together a legal agreement that if the adjacent neighbor to the west, which is the Taco Bell facility, ever redevelops, we'll kind of combine those two sites and then kind of uh align it directly with Llewellyn, which is part of the Olive Boulevard conceptual master plan. They'll add some additional landscaping uh to the back of the building and uh they'll uh also ensure that the all exterior lighting is consistent with uh uh with our current standards under chapter 428. So it's all downlighted. We control the uh you the ballast and and things of that nature. So they're not uh high or or uh or um angled upward uh in there. In addition to that, they work cooperatively. We've met with the police department and the fire department to talk about services uh and what what type of activities that they do uh in there to make sure that it's not you know it doesn't uh cause any you know extensive uh use of whether it's the ambulance or or security. So they've been pretty cooperative in working with us on those. The next slide

uh is just kind of an overview. you had this in your report of what is a ambulatory pharmacy service and essentially it is a pharmacy so you're not staying overnight like in a hospital type of pharmacy they provide uh those four uh highlighted points of care ambulatory pharmacy which is somewhat of the retail component specialty pharmacy a home infusion pharmacy and centralized pharmacy support functions we have representatives from Mercy if you want to get any uh additional of the specifics they'll have probably over 125 employees hopefully up to 150 uh when they get this started, they'll be looking hopefully in 2027 uh to be looking towards occupancy if authorized and approved by the council. Um and there and I think in the next slide uh again in this commission review uh it was introduced in November. They continued discussions in December. uh they wanted to ensure uh of course comp you know to look at what uh how we could utilize the improvements here to further our goals and standards both in our uh zoning code especially like chapter 428 and our comprehensive plan. Uh we had the safety meeting re reviews. We had the discussions about realignment of that southern access point coordinated access on the west side by Taco Bell. uh you know bringing the lighting into compliance, the streetscape into compliance, enhancing the exterior of the building along Olive and then to make sure that we have a complete type of signage plan. It's a pretty large site so they'll have uh directional signage throughout the site as they have both employees in there and then it is open to to the public or specific public uh that comes in uh in there. Here you have the uh the on on the right the the hierarchy and the the framework of the special permit process but also our community goals from the 2024 comprehensive plan uh update and these is does further uh a lot of those goals that are uh within that. And finally, mayor, if there are some items I can introduce uh to bring them into the

record, then be glad to answer any specific questions. uh that is our 2024 comprehensive plan update including the five-year economic development plan and the Olive Boulevard conceptual master plan. Uh both uh all three of these documents were used through the through the review process and enhanced and you can see them in the in the commission reports in terms of furthering our goals and objectives especially the conceptual master plan and the 5-year economic development plan. uh the oliveette municipal code and zoning map including uh section 4840 which is special permits authorizing medical offices and clinics. That's paragraph number 14. Uh the presentation to the planning and community design commission on December 14th and the supporting uh reports including the petition, the plans and documents that were part and uh also part of your packets tonight. Uh the public hearing notice and affidavit of publication. Uh this was published in the St. Louisis County and on January 12th, 2026 and you have a list of addresses that were notified within 300 ft of the subject property and then this presentation before the council tonight. Be glad to answer any specific questions. We have representatives both the petitioner uh from George Stocken Associates and then uh representatives from Mercy and then representatives from the property owner 9321 LLC uh which is part of the Bamboo Equity and our Tory group are are here and online. Uh I I see uh in there.

Well, if they have anything they'd like to to say, I would like to introduce it. Just depends if there's any uh inquires regarding the pharmacy services or the site itself or just to to look at the to say hello. Yeah, I do have a question or a few questions. So, one, uh sounds like people may be going to this site to pick up medications, right? If we go back to the site plan, where will they park their cars? How do they get to the building from Olive? I'll let them uh kind of talk about the orientation. I kind of know, but I think Okay, Mr. Stock and this is George Stock with the Stocken Associates.

Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Carlos. Uh good evening, honorable mayor, uh members of the council. For the record, my name is George Stock, and I'm with Stocken Associates Consulting Engineers. It's my pleasure to be here this evening on behalf of Mercy. Uh joining me this evening from Mercy are Mr. Kevin Hollerin, Ryan Gilb, and uh Doug Malcolm. So, they're available to answer any questions as well. Um it's certainly a pleasure to be here. Um you know, we want to thank you. We want to thank uh Carlos, thank Jennifer. Uh we contacted them, reached out a few months ago with an interest in this property and they've helped guide us through this process for the special permit. So Mercy's happy to become, you know, a corporate citizen within the city of all of that. With regards to the site plan, the northern portion of the building or parking lot, that would be for the employees. The employees would access the northern doors on the building. Um there's plenty of parking. Uh Carlos mentioned anywhere from 125 to 150, probably closer to 160 employees. So there's more than enough parking. Um visitors would come in the front lot, the south lot, and they have the ability to access off Dean Industrial or the access driveway to the west and park across the front of the building. Um as Carlos had indicated, there is some modifications being made to that access drive on Dealman Industrial. We work closely with uh the city uh and being able to facilitate that and come up with a plan to move those parking spaces. Um so those that door on the south side would be for visitors patients.

Got it. Got it. Thanks. I don't know if you've answered the question already or not. Will people be able to do like a drive-thru to get No drive-through? No drive-through. No drive-through. Okay. Just note the council mayor if I can. Uh and that is a similar format to how the US Bank had had their setup. uh employee parking would be in the rear and any any public that was entering the building for whatever reasons would come in for from that front uh portion. Now that side was mostly empty given the services that were provided there but back in 2013 or there was like for signing the mortgage papers and things of that nature you would come in through through that south entrance.

Okay. And the second question, uh, more of a sidewalk related, but right now the sidewalk along this building is right butts up right against Olive, which is, uh, very unsafe. And I know we've talked as a council many times about moving sidewalks away from the street if at all possible. The way the site is laid out, there are two rows of trees and right in between them. And and then just a question, but right in between them, there is some space. seems like we may be able to move that sidewalk away from the roads to increase the safety for pedestrians.

That'd be two things. One is the the sidewalk that's designed here, similar to what we have in front of the mobile station, I'll give that example, is per code uh in there. If uh if we want to uh look at other alternative means, we'll have to kind of amend the code. We can work with them through the process uh in there. My concern would be and it's a tough uh tough area in there because well I I couldn't tell you specifically the the type of trees that are along there but they're pretty m mature and they they are provide a nice canopy. um moving any further northward is going to start there's somewhat already underneath the canopy not by much but by by so the goal would be to widen that sidewalk uh to to about 13 ft and that's what we have in front of mobile uh provide you know some ornamental trees along the street side to provide that that buffer and then those type of lights uh in the streetscape uh in there if it and we can do that on the north side because there's not as much utilities that run underneath. Um, if we are to look at another design option, and we've done that for the south side of Olive because of the utility poles and the the fiber optics is something we I'm sure we can talk with them, but it will require us to do some modifications to the code.

Yeah, I think if there's some type of buffer or barrier between the sidewalk and the street, I think that's what we're looking for. flipping it over might be a little extreme, but yeah, if we can widen it, put a buffer between the sidewalk and the street, I think we would be in pretty good shape. Yeah, understand. Appreciate it.

Yeah, the sidewalk is um a concern of mine as well. And if if I'm remembering correctly, I think that first row of trees might be dead just having driven by this building. Obviously, it's hard to tell right now. Um, but even on one of the the original pictures that was showing, you could see like a big gash on the side of one of the trees. I think a lot of those first trees are in pretty bad shape anyway. Um, but something, you know, having that sidewalk widened with with,

you know, if trees like this image is showing, if trees are planted along there, that can serve as both a visual and a physical barrier um and protection for pedest for pedestrians walking along the sidewalk. Um, this is representative of what we intend to do across the site. This is part of enhancement in accordance with the city's guidelines.

So, Mr. Tjo, when you were speaking earlier, you said 13 feet and we our sidewalks are usually five feet. So, that includes like this other little buffer with the with the light posts and the trees. Back in 2008, we amended our code uh to create what was going to be our common streetscape along the Olive Boulevard corridor consistent with the 20 2006 comprehensive or strategic plan. Uh the the process was following a lot of APA standards regarding streetscapes designs along the refers or state highway similar to Olive Boulevard and you provide a transition area and that is that pink uh colored component and then in that pink color component you try to put you know the the spacing of the trees uh street lamps and all that. And then you have a 5 to 8 foot wide sidewalk un unobstructed uh as a pathway, not a 5-ft one you'd see in the residential or on old bottom. Uh this is our commercial thoroughfare uh or our

main. This makes me much more comfortable with what I could read from the drawings because it looked

Yeah, it it's really small given the size of the site. But this is this is gives me I like like uh council member Kashan Helman said this allows us more of a barrier whether it's the street lay there there is a a a pretty um there there is a detail within our code of what that expectation is of of a cross-section uh that's pretty specific and outlines exactly how they have to get that done and what are those widths and that's the standard we've been following with the Oliver and we did of course the mobile station, the CVS uh in there and we got that uh in conjunction working with the Great Rivers Greenway when they were doing the uh the extension uh in front of Chevys and uh and all that. So

great. Thank you. Yes. Yeah, this is very exciting. We get an opportunity to improve the sidewalks and we appreciate you guys coming to the city.

Yeah. Uh I have a question not related to sidewalks um but related to just security um with the awareness that as a a pharmaceutical entity there are um high value uh items that might be um attractive for individuals who might be interested in criminal activity. Um, and I'm curious if there are additional safety or security measures that take place in a pharmacy such as this um to uh

just to help those potential issues.

Good to meet you. Doug Malcolm. I'm the vice president of ambulatory specialy pharmacy services with Mercy. Um to answer your question, yes. Um and uh the board of pharmacy has some um very strict um expectations that proper security is going to be provided and and so with the size of this facility we are going to have multiple layers of security uh within the building to ensure that we are safeguarding the pharmaceuticals that are kept on the premises. So could in involve um you know layers on uh protective films that you know essentially harden glass. Um we we would certainly look at um security systems, alarm systems, badge access. Um so a lot of different layers to um get to you know as you mentioned the the medications that would be more in demand. Mhm.

And I know that there was I saw in the report that there was a meeting um that was um wasn't clear if it had already taken place with um with police and fire in terms of safety correct issues. Correct. Uh Doug and his team along with George and his team uh have already met with u both the fire marshall and fire chief uh on discussions and then we have one set for uh with the police department regarding security. But that's going to be once more the interior work is is laid out. Okay. Uh and set. So that they're looking forward to that. So Okay. And then um a separate question um unless did you have more on that subject? No. No. Okay. Um

just I was having a little bit of a hard time deciphering between the different uh layout drawings for the Dealman Industrial Drive. Is the access driveway being moved further north? That is correct. Away from Olive. Correct. Okay. And it will kind of align a little bit past or behind the building, the front of the building. So it it'll be a little bit above that area. And the entrance that's on the west side at this point is slated to stay. The entrance on Yes, correct. Like the west and the east.

Correct. There there are some grading issues. You know, it would requate that would require redevelopment of the Taco Bell site. Uh in there there's utility poles, some grading uh issues. There's a hydrant uh and I forgot there was a couple other things and then kind of Luwellen is somewhat centered in that island to the south uh in there. We just want to make sure as part of the concept uh or all the boulevard concept master plan is that we obtain the necessary agreements that when these opportunities occur that we'll be set uh and not have to purchase property or or push for those. Uh right now those two aprons are pretty close but Taco Bell is not doing anything to try to push this or give us an access to try to require it. At this point, we have it in plan uh but the next time around we'll have one property already secured with an agreement that it'll be easier to get the other property to get into that place.

So the goal would be the future goal would be that instead of having the Mercy entrance and the Taco Bell entrance with you know a 10 foot barrier between not barrier but distance between them that those would beordin would have one cut out onto all of them.

Okay, that's good. Um, I had a question about the traffic flow there as well. Um, when people leave the the premise, would they be able to make a left turn onto Olive? Because that's where a lot of the traffic jams occur because you come out of Taco Bell. They come out of um, Mobile on the run and those left turns are what really jam up the traffic. Or will this be a no left turn?

It it'll, you know, it will be a full access apron. Uh they do have two opportunities to exit onto Deman Industrial and then on what uh and then oh there's not an apron on the north side. Then use Dealman Industrial either to uh get to Olive, get to Price or get to Dealman Road itself uh in there. A lot of the exiting is probably going to go uh from that north end uh in there and you can't drive on the left side of the building. That's not I don't believe that's interconnected anymore. Or

the people that work there are going to go out into the industrial court. But what about the the clientele, the patients that come either on Deman or through the olive entrance. Okay. So, but they have to go through the industrial court to get to Dealman. If they want to get to Dilman Road, yes, they can exit onto Dealman Industrial, I think, is what Mr. Trey House is saying. they would have the opportunity to come out this entrance onto Olive or they could come out onto Dement Industrial. Okay. So, as far as the traffic flow, there wasn't great concern there.

No, not given the the the number of um how many people would be parking in the front as compared to the back. If it was reversed, it would be a concern. And this is we're improving it from where it was with US Bank because we're moving the apron back. Um so less chance of a traffic jam if people do back up and turning left because that was one of the reasons is if one person turn left and there's a wait, nobody could get out. So that's going to help moving it back a little bit.

It's it's a good point and that it's a difficulty of working with Olive Boulevard and trying to get all these aprons combined. But that's the goal of the that that concept master plan is we're slowly working our way uh to get those uh addressed. And I have a another question just about the pharmacy itself. So, do you send um does a lot of it just come do a lot of the prescriptions come in and you send them out or do most of is this where a lot of the patients actually show up and pick them up like on their way home from the hospital or something?

Yeah, the majority of prescriptions from this pharmacy would be sent out. So, home delivery type services. uh we would have an option for patients to pick up but we don't expect it to be utilized much at all. So that cuts down on that traffic as well. Correct. Great. Thank you.

I'll also call out like during PCDC conversations you know there's concern or questions raised about the volume of the parking lot in the back and so based off it's it's ample and you know probably more than is needed but the challenge is you know some people asked could we shorten it? we put some more vegetation and things like that, but considering it's a lease and you never know what the next use is going to be and things like that and you wanted to leave it and because it might be needed. So, that was kind of called out, but there is going to be some I believe some landscaping just to make sure it's kept as well. So, great. Exciting. Anything else? Thank you.

A couple of things I'll note uh also. So, uh Mercy is leasing the building as was indicated by Council Person Lewis. Uh the owner is 9321 LLC who's uh uh the lead person is Donovan who is here uh in there. Don's worked with Dan Yes. has worked with uh um Bamboo Equity uh Intel and there are Tory group which is the kind of like the umbrella organization and there there are several representatives miss Benner Mr. uh there they've been, you know, as you go back to this 5-year economic development plan and our 20 2006 uh comprehensive plan, it's about building these these business relationships and all that. Um and Telica has been uh pretty instrumental in investing in all of that. Um they helped us get um Emerson uh was one of their sites. They helped us get uh door.com uh paddle and pickle and allowed an opportunity for auto beauty specialists to relocate their storage facilities so they could expand their business on their site. Uh they also have property that they they've invested up in Deman Rock Island Industrial. Uh there's some three three properties uh in there. So uh it's always exciting when we work with Bamboo and Antelica because we we know we'll get things right and we know that they'll make an investment in our community. So you want to note that or recognize it.

Okay. And I do appreciate the number of people that you brought with you to this meeting and online. I think it's a it's a good it's a good show of your interest and commitment and appreciate that. Yeah. At this time, is there anyone in the audience online or anywhere that has any questions about this project? Okay. Well, Mr. trails. I'd like to thank you and all of your guests for coming about uh to discuss this. We're going to close the public hearing at this point. And the second reading of this bill will be conducted on February 10th.

Okay. Thank you very much, gentlemen. So, we're going to move on to item number 10, the Glen Mary road curb construction project, and we please have a presentation. Good evening, Bruce McGregor public works. Uh it it's getting close to construction season and I am excited to put the flowers away and uh get back to road improvement projects. Uh Glen Mary Road is a unique uh rightway that we acquired in the 1999 to 2001 NID process. It is what I believe originally an access road used by the city of St. Louis water division to uh perform the construction of the conduits that go across from Stacy Park through Alvette into University City and down into the city of St. Louis. Uh that's the only reason I can explain why there's this uh 20 foot rightway, a very very narrow road and a relatively small culde-sac. Um, but that's what we have. Um, over the years, I think the street just sort of morphed maybe as they got more use and the culde-sac sort of just sort of got a little bit bigger and a little bit bigger and never was really designed or defined as the radius that it is laid out. Uh the second page sort of shows an aerial view of the not really a teardrop shape but uh more like a golf club driver maybe uh of a shape. So I've been working with the residents there to put together a plan to formalize that radius, install curb and gutters and uh correct some of the uh vintage vintageness of the roadway. will say um

once the curbs are completed uh we'll work with our on call paving contractor to redo the asphalt uh at least down to where the MSD project is about half the roadway. Uh so that'll take care of all the different utility cuts and pavement failures uh in the actual roadway surface. But of course we want to wait till the uh curbs are installed uh first. There any questions? Any questions from the council? I'm just curious, you know, I feel like anytime we do something to a road in a neighborhood, people have feelings. Um I was curious just what your conversations with neighbors. This was at the neighbor's request. Okay. And um

and I certainly appreciate the difficulty and and uh here's the thing. We have a a relatively low hurdle to overcome as a successful project. MSD was just there doing a major sewer project and it didn't go so smoothly. So I I think they'll be very pleased with us uh working there. I think we're a little more conscientious, a little more dedicated to detail. Uh but yes, it is it's a narrow street to work on. It will be inconvenient for uh for 6 to 8 weeks while we do all the construction. Uh but it is at their request, but the street itself is not actually being widened. It's just the like the lower part of the culde-sac that is

Yeah, we're taking it. So if you look there, you can see the the rightway limit is the yellow line and and this is from the GS GIS map, but it's it's fairly representative. U so we are going to be making it more of a radius. So it'll go a little bit further north, which is into that driveway area and a little bit further to the west, uh you know, into that yard area. That's where the taller curbs going to go because that house sits higher than the street. So we need to be able to hold back the slope a little bit uh in that area. And then we need to make sure that the water of the the culde-sac flows in two directions. Some of it goes north, some of it goes south. This this is currently a public this is a public street.

It is it's a it's a city street. It was acquired through the 99 I don't know exactly what year, but it was in those uh early 2000 knit process. Okay. So the entire I guess culde-sac is on board, you know. Yes. Yes. So I've been primarily dealing with the two uh property owners at the end. Okay. Um, so it's only two. Yeah, there's two houses at the end that are uh, you know, immediately adjacent to the culdesac. The one house in the lower left of the photo, I think, is the only um original house uh to the subdivision. There's 12 uh on the street and I think all the other ones have been uh torn down and rebuilt. Okay.

May maybe there's one more closer to Old Bonum to think in my head there. And in the work with MSD, knowing that this this whole road slopes downhill, right, is there they already reconstructed and put in newer sewers. It was a relief project. Uh went all the way over to the channel uh that goes by the substation uh which is north of this area and then continued uh it was about the middle of Glen Mary and then continued towards uh Dealman.

Okay. All right. Well, I'll entertain a motion to approve. I'd be happy to make a motion to authorize the city manager to execute a contract not to exceed exceed 4397250 with Spencer Contracting to construct concrete curb and gutters at the north end of Glenmary Road. Second. All right. Can we please pull the council? Council member Lewis. Yes. Council member Pashan Helman. Yes. Council member Solomonov. Yes. Chairman Prom. Yes. Mayor Clark. Yes. Motion has passed. Thank you very much. Thank you.

All right, so now we're going on to item number 11, CPR first aid training fees. I thought Bruce would have left it on.

Good evening, council members, mayor, M or Mr. May, Miss Yakley. My name is Tim Fam, the assistant fire chief of your fire department. I am here tonight to request authorization to establish a fee schedule for CPR and first aid training. These classes right now that we are presently doing provide are provided free of charge. The city employees do that for the residents. The fire department incurs expenses related to personnel training materials and certification fees. A fee schedule will help cover these costs, allowing the first fire department to maintain high quality standards of instruction and effectively oversee the funds that were provided for you guys for our budget. Um, very short presentation just asking for, you know, permission to be able to start be able to charge for fees. Do we happen to know how much we're char

Oh, there it is. Thank you. Okay. So, the fee schedule that's up there is at non-resident fees and this was in conjunction with the parks department five oaks when they were advertising. We didn't change that. We set it as the same fee as non residents of $69. Resident or five oaks members $59. and as a hybrid or an online course where they take the uh class online and come and do the practical at the firehouse would be a $30 fee

if you were to go out and about into the community because that I know that uh Captain Woods has done that for me where I work. Um would the these be the same fees still that be the non-resident fee? Actually they'd be less from if you would St. Louis CPR right now I believe is charging um $85 with a discount down to 79. That's just going on behind the asking if she were to request that Captain Rougeitz come to her business and teach a CPR class. Are these the fees that would be assessed for her?

That's a good question as well. Jim would be, you know, answer I guess as a I guess offduty because I know that you I know that he's done that in the past for organizations, right? Um and in the past that's how we did it was we used the uh same fee schedule from the community center um to extend to u others work. Great. Great.

As a non-resident. Great. Thank you. Is it I mean have we considered maybe offering a more discounted or potentially free classes just so we have more people in our community being CPR certified to try to encourage more they've been a lot of money roughly per year on the average we've been doing 200 certifications a year. Okay. Oh so this is a change introducing it more money. I get it. Any other questions from the council? Okay. I will entertain a motion to approve, please.

I'd like to make a motion to authorize the fire department to implement a feebased structure for CPR and first aid classes. I'll second. Okay. Can we please pull the council? Council member Lewis. Yes. Council member Pashan Helman. Yes. Council member Solomonov, yes. Chairman Prom, yes. Mayor Clark, yes. The motion is passed. Thank you guys. You're welcome. Have a good night. Thank you. Now we're going on to item number 12. Authorization of reciprocal facility agreement with the city of Creve Core. Could we please have a presentation? Are you freezing?

Uh good evening, mayor and council members. Beverly Tucker Knight, parks and recreation director, and I have with me assistant parks and recreation director Patrick McGee. And Patrick has been instrumental in developing this reciprocal agreement. So, we're here with this this evening to talk to you about it. So, I'm going to turn it over to Patrick. Thank you, Beverly. Yeah. Uh we were excited to um work with Creep Core and bring something to our residents that we didn't currently have, which is the ability to use an ice rink um at a at a cheaper cost at the resident rate for the Creekore residents and we're excited to offer that as well as the golf course as well. Um as far as Did we have a slideshow too? We do not.

We do not. Okay. I just didn't know if you had I know we had talked about some things but basically with this was born out of um working with creep core to basically establish a reciprocal usage and to also kind of bring people into five oaks as well. So that's kind of the two-prong attack that we were going after. Um we're excited to work with them and have a that reciprocal usage put in place and to start at this place and also have the ability to grow into possibly uh programs and other event to kind of grow those as well. And is this the first time uh the city has partnered with CREFCore?

It's not. Uh prior to COVID we did partner with Crevecore. We would offer reciprocal classes for programs that they didn't offer. So Creek does not have a community center and we used to have, you know, an older facility, but we had programming. We had summer camps and we had athletics and CRECore residents would use our programs at the resident rate and our residents would in turn have a a selection of classes they could use in CREF Corps, things we didn't offer such as tennis lessons, golf lessons, uh programs at their historic home, their tea program for children and things like that. And that was popular. And then it died during COVID when we all shut down. And then when we reop when everything reopened after COVID, we were constructing the new center. So it just kind of went by the wayside. But this is a a new agreement. This one actually requires approval of the council because this is a facility reciprocal agreement. It's very similar to the agreement that Crecore has with Maryland Heights for access to the aquaport because creep does not have a swimming pool, but they do have the golf course and the ice rink. So, they're able to do that with Maryland Heights. It's worked very well. We are also very interested in finding a reciprocal agreement for a swimming pool for all of it residents. We have not been successful with that yet, but we are still working on that. So, hopefully we will have something like that in the future. Um and this is an agreement for one year. We will assess it, see how it goes, and then um if it is successful, we want to continue. This agreement allows us to automatically roll it over. But we also have the ability to make adjustments or fine-tune it if there's things we want to adjust as as both CREF corps staff and our staff, you know, track it throughout the year. Would this apply to people working in CRE for 2 and looking to use a facility?

Um, at this time, um, I don't I don't know for sure. We have to follow the CREF core agreements. We have a a meeting with their parks and rec director. It got delayed because his child was sick and then the storm. So, uh, we haven't, you know, the devil's in the details. We will be hammering that out, but we do, uh, hope that it will. our initial promotions that we're doing as far as mailings go. We would mail just um to CREC Corp residents, not the businesses, but then advertise through the Chamber of Commerce. There's, you know, there's um uh you know, we we pay a tiered system with our mailings and so it's much cheaper to mail to the households than to do all the households and the businesses, but then we can utilize our membership with the Chamber of Commerce to get the information out to the businesses. The um the other thing is as we do our targeted mailing, we'll be focusing on on neighborhoods on the east side of 270. We currently have some uh creeps members. We kind of looked at where those addresses are. It makes more sense that people that are closer geographically to us. So again, that's a cost savings for our mailing because mailing is very expensive. But CREC Cor will also be pushing it out to their residents so we can piggyback on um how they are pushing out the information as well. Um so I guess I just answered the question. We are sending it to businesses.

Yes. Um so as you all know in all of that if you are if you work for a business in all of that you qualify for the resident rate with our programs and that's an a program we've had for a long time. Mr. Mayor. Yes. Go ahead. Um, I just want to confirm that in what we read tonight in the presentation at the parks meeting, this is only for membership and day passes. Correct. It is, but if you purchase a membership with Five Oaks, you then get all the privileges of that membership. So, you would receive the member rates for the programs, the classes, and the rentals because that is our current policy. Excellent. Thank you.

Um, I'm just curious projections. Did you have an estimate in kind of how much volume you think this might increase or what it might change? I'm sure you did. I'm hoping we'll see a 15% increase but in membership I it's a guesstimate course. It is absolutely it's a guess. And we talked about how we're going to we're going to promote to Creekore residents promotion within all of Ed is it going to obviously you know the newsletter I imagine.

Yes, it'll be in the newsletter. We have a full page ad in our activity guide that's in production right now that goes to every household. And then we'll of course do a lot of social media, direct mail through constant contact. Our constant contact direct mails seem to get a really really um excellent response rate. We have a very high open rate. So we have about a 36% open rate which is phenomenal with constant contact.

Um we still get people that ask to get after every mailing ask to be removed but that's very low. So, we um you know, we are fortunate that people like our emails. Um do um I'm sorry, it's my last question. Um you threw me for a loop. Do do you expect CRE corps to send out mailings to the Olivet residents inviting them to participate in the golf course and the ice rink?

We would anticipate they would, but we don't know. Um, again, that's a question that we have for Jason. Depends on what he has budgeted. We did have money in this year's budget to do some targeted mailings into CRE. When we currently when we mail out our activity guide, we mail to all the households in all of it, but we also go over our borders. Um, we go a little bit into Leoo Crep and the unincorporated areas. Some of that is because of how the postal routes go in order to saturate all of it, but also we target where we know a lot of our clients are coming. And then we also with our athletic programs, you know, we follow the LEU school district. So we want to make sure that, you know, all the kids in the schools know about it as well. We don't want anyone to feel like they can't be in our athletic programs.

Great. Thank you. I I just had a detailed question on the the draft agreement that were presented that says the golf course access would be from May 15th through September 15th. Is that just because that's the only when the golf course is open or are those dates restricted for a different reason? Yeah, those dates are typically just restricted due to winter and and cold weather. They do shut down for, you know, green renov renovations, bunker renovations, things like that throughout the year. And when they do that, it is only a 9-hole course, not a full 18hole course. So, shutting down a hole obviously affects quite a bit more than it would on an 18hole course.

Yeah, I'm thrilled with this. I really appreciate you guys doing the work to look into this and um develop this partnership. I think it's great for uh all of it, great for Creep Corps, and hopefully will really be a a good boost for Five Oaks memberships. We hope so, too. Absolutely. I'll entertain a motion to approve this. I'll make a motion. Um motion to authorize reciprocal agreement with the city of Creek Corps for the use of five oaks on Warson and the Creek Corps ice rink and golf course. Second. Can we please pull the council? Council member Lewis. Yes. Council member Pashan Helman. Yes. Council member Solammanov. Yes. Chairman Prom. Absolutely. Mayor Clark. Yes.

Motion passed. Thank you very much. Good job. All right. So, we're going to go to hearing from citizens part two. If there are any citizens in here who would like to speak, please raise your hand. Seeing none, we'll move forward. Uh, right now we're going to have the review and acceptance of minutes. Are there any corrections to the minutes that anyone saw? Well, I'll entertain a motion to approve the minutes as read. I'll make a motion to approve council minutes from January 13, 2026. Second. Could we please pull the council? Council member Lewis, yes. Council member Sean Helman, yes. Council member Solomonov, yes. Chairman Prom, yes. Mayor Clark, yes.

Motion has passed. All right. So, we go to item 15, our city attorney's report. No report this evening. Okay. So, now circle back to Jennifer the dates for the return.

Yes. So, let's go ahead and circle back so we can select that date. Right. So, um, in consultation with, uh, Beth Quindry, who is the facilitator, uh, we looked at these three dates. We didn't go much further, um, into March. Um, so if we can't get something for these three days, we can certainly I can circle back with her and go further into March. But um the three dates are February 28th, Saturday February 28th, Saturday March 7th and Sunday March 8th. And so it would be about you know like a half day about 5ish hours um morning or afternoon. So I open the floor for the council to discuss.

Is this something we discuss now or we do it later? No, I think you should do it now. Okay. In my my opinion, I would go with March 8th because I have so much activities to do on Saturdays. So, Sunday works best for me. March 8th is fine with me. The only thing I'll ask is depending on our agenda, do we need more? I want I'd rather get make sure we're getting it done one day versus having to, you know, stretch it out. So, if there's an need to start earlier, I'm open to that. second that, you know, I I'd rather start like but I don't know if that's possible for people based off services or chair, you know, or other things. So,

I can tell you um Beth and I had designed your retreat um and it was absolutely possible to get the things you all want to do done in one day. So, um one day being like five hours, you say. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

Okay. Can I throw something out that would be unique and I don't know if it would be offensive so I apologize upfront but is there um I know that not everybody works on Mondays and Fridays that some people work is there a chance of doing something on a Monday or Friday and an afternoon and using like I would rather use PTO for that because I'm not available on the 7th or the 8th. I'm already committed out both days and I know that throws a wrench into the fire or whatever the expression is. Puts a turd in a punch bowl. Thank you.

Um I can't do it. I You can't do it. I have I have work. Okay. I've got too much to do on Tuesday. I don't get Sydney. Would if we were to do March 7th in the morning, would that help versus the afternoon? I think she said she can't do either. Oh, yeah. You said either way. Yeah. Can you do the 28th? Half in the afternoon only. Unfortunately, I can do the afternoon of the 28th. Yeah, the afternoon of the 28th works for me as well. It's hard.

I If you're willing to extend further into March, I can certainly have a conversation with Beth. Just look further into March. Okay. So, I'm I'm willing to do that to look further into into March. Um because it sounds like um these three dates just aren't going to work. And that's that's totally fine. And that's fine. The only ch we're running into spring break as well. And I know times I'll be out, but you know, so we'll uh we'll see if we can work around uh spring break. Do you know if February 21st was a possibility? I if it's not a possibility. Yeah, we we didn't want to give you dates that we knew either she or I really can't be there. So, okay.

Uh we'll look a little further into March and really try and find something um in March because I know it's uh very important for the council that your goals be reflective in the budget. And so, uh, we're wanting to try and get this done, um, in March. But I appreciate you all looking, um, at your calendars. All right. So, we're going to take this down the road a little bit. See what we can find out further into March. Do we all agree? So, I will You have anything you like to add? No, I was just saying use your mic. Um, at this point, I would like to Entertain a motion to adjurnn. I'll make a motion to adjurnn.

Second. All right. So be it. I