Planning & Zoning Commission - Regular Meeting

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[Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] Good evening everyone. Welcome to the August 18th, 2025 Greensboro Planning and Zoning. My name is Catherine.

Recording in progress. My name is Catherine Maggot and I am chair of the commission. Betty Turner, Keith Peterson Steles

and Commissioner Downing is on the way, but we're going to begin. Members of the commission are appointed by city council and serve without pay. The commission reviews all original zoning and reszoning requests for the Each commissioner normally visits each site prior to this meeting. All commissioners are required to vote unless they have a conflict of interest. When speaking here tonight, please direct all questions and comments to the zoning commission only. The chair or commissioners will ask the staff or attorney to comment on the question. This meeting is being conducted in person and online and is being recorded televised on Greensboro Television Network GTN and the telecast is being closed caption for the hearing impaired. When a case is called that you are in interested in people wishing to speak by Zoom will need to raise the hand function under the reaction button to be notice notified noticed and called upon. Will you please Now to find that if anyone participating online needs help with Zoom during this meeting, please email Lucas Carter at lucas.carter greensboro-N.gov. People wishing to speak in person will need to come to the podium and when you are called upon to speak, please state your name and address for the record. The procedure used at this public hearing is as followed. Planning staff presents background information and makes a recommendation. The applicant will present a short survey of how he or she communicated with the neighborhood and why the request is reasonable. Any commission member may ask questions once the presenter has completed their presentation. The applicant and other

people in favor of the request share 10 minutes of time. Those in opposition to the request share 10 minutes of speaking time. Then the rebuttal. Those in favor share five minutes of speaking time. Those in opposition share five minutes of rebuttal time. In an effort to run this meeting more efficiently. The planning and zoning commission may reorganize the meeting agenda. Cases in which no opposition has been expressed to the planning department and the commission members do not a discussion will be moved to the top of the agenda and will become the expedited agenda. Staff will provide a shortened presentation for those cases and the applicant will have up to two minutes to address the commission if they desire to provide any information they want the commission to know. After our deliberation, all approved ordinances receiving six or more favorable or denied votes will constitute a final action unless an appeal is submitted in writing to the planning department and the appeal fee paid within 10 days. An annexed ordinance receiving six or more votes will be favorably recommended and subject to a public hearing by city council. All ordinances receiving less than six votes will be subject to a public hearing by the city council. Okay. First, the acknowledgement that Mr. Down is on his way. Oh, here he is. Welcome, Mr. D. Uh, now we need the approval of the minutes. I will entertain a motion to approve the July minutes.

So moved. Subject to one little edit. Thank you, Mr. Nichols. And and the edit is on the facing page um where we took the recess top of the page, there's a reference to a comment that I made um where I'm referred to as Ms. Nichols. Now, I'm totally comfortable with my gender identity, but I would request that that uh be corrected. Subject to that correction, I I move that the minutes be approved. Thank you for pointing that out. I'll second the motion.

Thank you, Miss Okconor. All those in favor signifi signify by saying I and raise your hand. Anyone opposed? That passes 9 to zero. Now we need some insights from our city attorney.

Good evening, Chair Maggie. Good evening, everyone. Um much of the planning and zoning commission's work this evening will uh relate to the consideration of resoning applications. I'd like to remind everyone in attendance that when the commission considers uh these applications, its determinations are based on the land uses that are allowed under the district, the zoning district that's put forth in the application as well as any conditions that have been proposed by the applicant. Now, land use impacts on public infrastructure are relevant in resoning matters and it's import to know that the commission is not here to determine all details of a development that involves staff input and evaluation that goes beyond the scope of the commission's work. If a resoning would generate a certain amount of traffic flow, the commissioners will have been provided with a summary traffic impact study. Meanwhile, many sight specific development features such as the means of storm water management uh are evaluated through the technical review committee rather than in this forum. Lastly, concerns that are not related to land use that would not be gerine to the commission's consideration of reszoning applications. For example, generalized concerns about crime rates and questions of who may own or live at or use the subject property are not for the commission's consideration. If there are questions about matters that are not addressed here this evening, those may be referred to the planning department or to city technical staff as appropriate. Thank you. Thank you. So, M Mr. Kirkman, do we have any continuences?

Uh, we do not.

Thank you so much. Okay, with that said and done, it's my understanding that we have one case in opposition and that case is Z25-08-001 and it is 6846 Banning Road. I won't mention the other five roads. Um, now I I'm just going to read off the additional cases that we have just in case just to make certain that there's no one in the chamber that's in opposition to any of the other cases. So bear with me. Z25-06-003 3725 McConnell Road Z-25-06-004 McConnell Road right ofway Z-25-007 1143 Pleasant Ridge Road Z-25-8-002 4265 Hamburg Mill Road Z25-8 3 3823 Yansyville Street Z25-8-004 9220 West Market Street Z25-8-005 2909 Horse Pin Creek Road Z25-8-006 509 Macki Road Z25-8- 2701 North O'Henry Boulevard. All right. If you have any opposition to those, you can raise your hand. All right. Seeing none, we look good. How about online? Do we have people online?

No one register opposition for those cases. Chair Megan.

Great. So, we will proceed to the expedited agenda. Item PL25-21 and Z25-06-003 an annexation and original zoning request from county AG agricultural to city CDLI conditional district light industrial for the properties identified as 3711, 3713, 3719, and a portion of 3725 McConnell Road and 4711, 4722, 4722-Z, 4742, and 4749 Old School Road, generally described as north of McConnell Road and east of Clap Farms Road, and north and south of Old School 103.74 acres. And then we have the right of way for that one which is PLP25-21 that same annexation number and Z25-06-004 an annexation original zoning reszoning request for county AG agricultural and city CDLI conditional district light industrial and city CDRM8 conditional district residential multifamily to City Li Light Industrial for the properties identified as a portion of McConnell Road right away and a portion of Clap Farm right away generally described as McConnell Road east of Clap

Farm Road and Clap Farms Road north and south of Old School Road 5.79 acres. And Mr. Carter,

thank you. This is the zoning map of the subject property showing that it contains approximately 109.53 acres. U this is split into two cases 103.74 acres of that is private property and is the request identifi or of this request is Z-25-6004 portions of rights of road and that is an original zoning request from county city CD and city cd. North of the request is on agricultural. East of the request is city R3 and city CD5. South of the request is agricultural city to the west. This is the map of the property. The subject property currently contains single family dwellings, agricultural land, portions of road and farms. North of the request contains single family dwellings and agricultural land. East of the request contains 840. Family dwellings equipment rental and undeveloped land. of the request

contains single family dwellings and warehouse. This is the condition that was proposed by the applicant and in recommending approval of this request. Staff notes that the GSO 2040 comprehensive plan designates the property as planned industrial on the future for map and uh industrial on the future land use map. The proposed original zoning request is supported by the GSO 204 comprehensive plans growing economic competitiveness big idea to increase and preserve the inventory of developable sites for corporate and industrial uses. also supports the prioritizing sustainability goal to build economic resilience expanding the local economy's ability to adjust to disruptions and changes at the regional national scales. The proposed CDL zoning district limits uses to those that are compatible with the surrounding area. zoning district is primarily intended to accommodate limited manufacturing, wholesaling, warehousing, research and development and related commercial service activities which in their normal operations have little or no adverse effect upon properties. This request would permit us.

Thank you, Mr. Carter. Any questions from the commissioners? All right, seeing none, would the applicant like to make any comment? You have to attorney for the applicant has any questions from the commissioners? Okay, without further objection, we'll close the public hearing. I will entertain a motion. First, we need a motion for the annexation and then one for the original zone. Commissioner Keith I make a motion for annexation PLP 25-21. I second the motion.

Thank you, Mr. Peterson, Miss Okconor. Um, we will take a vote. All those in favor signify by raising your hand and saying I. I.

Anyone opposed? That passes 920. This constitutes a favorable recommendation and is subject to a public hearing at the Tuesday, September 16th, 2025 city council meeting. Now we need an original zoning, please additional district to light industrial uh Planning Commission believes that his recommend approval of the resoning of the original zoning request for the properties at 3711, 3713, 3717, and a portion of 3725 road and 4711, 4721, 4721-Z, 4742, and 4749. Old school from county agriculture to city CD district light industry to be consistent with adopted GSO 240 comprehensive plan to be reason for the following reasons the request is consistent with the comprehensive plan future bill format and future land use map uh the proposed city CD-LI zoning district as permits uses that fix the context of surrounding area and limits negative impacts on adjacent properties. The request is reasonable due to the size, physical condition and other attributes of the area and it will benefit the property owner and surrounding community and approvals in the public's interest.

Commissioner G. Thank you very much. Um now we will take a vote. All those in favor raise your and say I I

all opposed. That passes 9 to zero. This constitutes a favorable recommendation and subject to a public hearing at the Tuesday, September 16th, 2025 city council meeting. Oh yes. Okay. So we definitely need a annexation and a zoning request for the 6. The annexation is the same. So we can we don't have to do that.

Commissioner Keith Petzoning Z-25-06-004. The Greensburg Plan and Zoning Commission believes that to recommend approval of the original zoning request for the properties at a portion of McConnell Road right away and a portion of Clap Farms real right away from county AG agriculture to city CD-LI conditional district light industrial and city CD-RM18 conditional district residential multifamily 18 to city LII light industrial to be consistent with the adopted GSO 2040 comprehensive plan and considers the action to be taken reasonable and in the public's interest for the following reasons. The request is consistent with the comprehensive plan future built form map and future land use map. The proposed city LII zoning district permit uses that fit the context of the surrounding area and limits negative impacts on the adjacent properties. The request is reasonable due to size, physical condition, and other attributes of the area. It will benefit the property owner and surrounding community and approvers in the public's best interest. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Second. All those in favor signify by We'll take a vote now. All those in favor signify by raising your hand and saying I. All those opposed that passes to Z. This constitutes a favorable recommendation and is subject to a public hearing at the Tuesday, September 16th, 2025 city council meeting. The next item, item PL29 and Z25-07-007, an annexation and original zoning and reszoning request for county PI public and institutional city PI and institutional city R3 residential single family and city CDL conditional district light industrial to planned unified development and consideration of the required unified development plan for the properties identified as 1143 and 1163 Pleasant Ridge Road generally described as west of Pleasant Ridge Road and north of West Friendley Street 74 acres and Mr. Nelson.

Thank you, Chair Maggot. This is the zoning map of the area showing that some of the properties contain approximately 74.3 acres and located west of Pleasant Ridge Road and north of West Market Street. As you see, this is an annexation original zoning and reszoning request from county PI, city PI, city R3, and city CDLI to city PUB. North of the request is zone city R3 and county, county agricultural. East of the request is zone city CDLI and county agricultural. South of the request is owned city CDLI, city PI, city CDRM18 and county agricultural and west of the request is zone city PI, city CDRM18 and county agricultural. The aerial map shows the properties are currently undeveloped. North of the request contains single family dwellings and undeveloped land. East of the request contains warehouse uses and commercial vehicle parking. South of the request contains outdoor recreation, indoor outdoor recreation and religious assembly use. West of the request contains religious assembly uses, common elements and undeveloped land. These are the conditions that were proposed by the applicant and associated with the request. And this is the unified development plan which was recommended for approval by the clinical review committee on August 14th. And in recommending approval of the request, staff know that the GSO 2040 comprehensive plan designates this site as urban general on the future build form map and the future land use map designates subject properties as being located within the western area plan. The western area plan designates the subject properties as public institutional and employment area. The proposed resoning request supports the comprehensive plans filling in our framework goal to arrange land uses for

a more vibrant livable Greensboro as well as the creating great places goal to expand Greensburg citywide network of unique neighborhoods offering residents of all walks of life a variety of quality housing choices and staff noted that the proposed community zoning district as condition is primarily intended to accommodate a mix of residential housing types and complimentary non-residential uses. The proposed original zoning and reszoning request allows us that are compatible with existing uses in the surrounding area.

Thank you, Mr. Nelson. Uh, any questions from the commissioners? Seeing none, would the applicant like to make any comment? You have up to two minutes. Okay. Thank you for being here. Um, without further objection, we'll close the public hearing. I will We we need a annexation and original zoning and then the third one is the Sandra Con.

Thank you, Mr. Connor and Mr. Peterson. We will take a vote. All those in favor of the raise your hand and say I.

Anyone opposed? That passes that constitutes a favor favorable recommendation and subject to a public hearing at the Tuesday September 16th 2025 city council meeting. Now we need an original Z2507. The Greensboro Planning and Zoning Commission believes that its actions recommend approval of the original zoning request for the properties at 1143 and 1163 Pleasant Ridge Road from County PI public and institutional. City PI public and institutional city R3 residential single family 3 and city CDI conditional district light industrial to city PUB planned unified development with the adopted uh GSO 2040 comprehensive plan and considers the action taken to be reasonable and in the public interest for the following reasons. The request is consistent with the comprehensive future built for map and future land use map. The proposed city PUB zoning district as conditioned permits uses that fit the context of the surrounding area and limits negative impacts on adjacent properties. The request is reasonable due to the size, physical condition and other attributes of the area. It will benefit the property owner and surrounding community and approval is in the public interest. Thank you, Miss Okconor and Mr. Peterson. We will now take a vote. All those in favor signify by raising your hand and saying I. Anyone opposed? That passes to zero. This constitutes a favorable recommendation and is subject

to a public hearing at the Tuesday, September 16th, 2025 city council meeting. And now we need the Sandra O' Conor. I move approval of the unified development plan. Thank you, Mr. Okconor and Miss. We will take a vote. All those in favor signify by raising your hand and saying I.

Anyone opposed? That passes 9 to zero. This approval constitutes a final action unless an appeal is submitted in writing to the planning department and the appeal fee paid within 10 days. Anyone may file such appeal. All such appeals will be subject to a public hearing at the September 16, 2025, city council meeting. All adjoining property owners will be notified of any such appeal. The next item on our expedited is item PL25-36 and Z25-08-002. An annexation original zoning request from county RS 40 residential single family to city CDM5 conditional district residential multif family 5 for the property identified as 4065 Hamburg Road generally described as south of Hamburg Road and east of Horseshoe Drive2 Mr. This is the zoning map of the subject property which contains approximately acres and is located south of Horseshoe Drive. This is an annexation request from RS4. North and south of the request are zfield RSfield. This is the area map of the subject property which contains a single family. This is the zoning condition that was proposed by the applicant.

In recommending approval of the original zoning staff for currently designates similar nearby properties as urban general and the future designates. The proposed original zoning request supports the comprehensive plans goal to have a citywide network of unique neighborhoods. ress of all walks of life choices and the filling in our framework to arrange our land uses for workend school and enjoy our free time to create a more vibrant green orientation material height buffers to ensure an appropriate transition to existing result.

Any questions from the commission? Seeing none, would the applicant like to make any comments? You have up to two minutes.

All right. Thank you so much. Um without further objection, we'll close the public I will entertain a motion. Commissioner Turner, we need an annexation and an original

No, first do the annexation for the PL2-36. Okay. For PLP 25-36.

Thank you, M. Okay, we will vote. All those in favor signify by raising your hand and saying I. I.

Anyone opposed? That passes to zero. Okay. Tuesday, September 16th, 2025 city council meeting. Now we need the original for Z258002 4265 Hamburg Mill Road. The Greensboro Planning and Zoning Commission believes that its action to recommend approval of the original zoning request for the property at 4265 Hamburg Mill Road from County RS40 residential single family to city CDRM5 conditional district residential multifamily 5 to be consistent with the adopted GSO 2040 comprehensive plan and considers the action taken reasonable and in the public interest for the following reasons. One, the request is consistent with the comprehensive plans future built form map and future land use map. Two, the proposed city CDRM5 zoning district as conditioned permits uses that fit the context of the surrounding area and limits negative impacts on adjacent properties. Three, the request is reasonable due to the size conditions and other attributes of the area. It will benefit the property owner and surrounding community and approval is in the public interest.

Thank you, Mr. Turner and Miss take a vote now. All those in favor signify by raising your hand and saying I. I.

Anyone opposed? That passes to Z. This constitutes a favorable recommendation and subject to a public hearing at the Tuesday, September 16th, 2025 city council meeting. Before we go on to this next case, I just like to say we've just annexed three properties into Greensboro and with the approval of city council that's 177 acres. We've McConnell road it was 650,000 square feet of commercial. Pleasant Ridge Road. It was 28,000 square feet, 250 multif family, 60 town homes, and 75 single family homes. with it RM5. So that's seven more residential units. And now we'll move on item Z25-08-003 request for RM residential single family 5 to CD RM8 conditional district residential multif family 8 for the property identified as 3823 Yansville Street generally described as west of Yansville Street and north of Kin Street 2.7 acres Thank you. This is the zoning map showing that subject property contains approximately 2.7 acres and described as west of Yansville Street north of Kenyon Street. This a reszoning request from R5 to CDRM8 north, east, south, and west of the request are zoned R5. Property currently contains a single family dwelling. North, east, south, and west of the request contain single dwellings. These are the conditions that proposed by the applicant

and recommending approval of the request. Staff know that the GSO 2040 comprehensive plan doesn't list this site as urban general and exurban on the future built format and as residential on the future land use map. The proposed resing request supports both the comprehensive plans creating great places goal to expand Greensboro city network of unique neighborhoods offering residents all walks of life a variety of quality housing choices and the building community connections goal to maintain stable attractive and healthy places to live and families know that the proposed CDR zoning district as condition would allow residential uses that are compatible with the surrounding area with an appropriate proposed residential density. Care should be taken with respect to building orientation, building materials, building height and visual buffers to ensure an appropriate transition to lower density res.

Thank you, Mr. N. Any questions from the commissioners? Seeing none, would the applicant like to make any comments? You have to sorry. Okay, seeing none, we will close the public hearing. I will entertain a motion.

Yes, Madam Chair. Let make a motion for agenda item number Z258003 3823 Yensville Street. The Greensboro Planning and Zoning Commission believes that its action to recommend approval of the resoning request for the property at 3823 Yentville Street from RF residential single family to CDRM8. district residential multifamily 8 to be consistent with the adopted GSO 2040 comprehensive plan and considers the action taken to be reasonable and in the public interest for the following reasons. Number one, the request is consistent with the comprehensive plan future built form map and future land use map. Number two, the proposed CDR M8 zoning district as condition permits uses that fit the context of the surrounding area and limits negative impacts on adjacent properties. Number three, the request is reasonable due to the size, physical conditions and other attributes of the area. It will benefit the property owner and surrounding community and approval is in public interest. Mr.

Thank you, Mr. D. Peterson. And now we will take a vote. All those in favor signify by raising your hand and saying I. I.

All those opposed. That passes 9 to zero. This approval constitutes a final action unless an appeal is submitted in writing to the planning department and the appeal fee paid within 10 days. Anyone may file such appeal. All such appeals will be subject to a public hearing at the Tuesday, September 16th, 2025 city council meeting. All adjoining property owners will be notified of any such appeals. The next item, item Z25-08-004, a residential single family 3 and CD- conditional district office to CD- district office for the properties identified as 9206220 West Market Street and a portion of West Market Street right away generally described as north and east of West Market Street of kid road 21.46 acres and Mr. Nelson

thank you chair the zoning map of the property shows the subject property is approximately 21.46 46 is located north and east of West Market Street and south of Kid Road. This is a request from R3 to and CDO to CDO. The north of the request is zone county RS40. East of the request is zone county RS40 and county agricultural. South of the request is zone city R3 and city PI. And west of the request is zone city R3 and city CL. property currently contains single family dwellings. North of the request contains undeveloped land and single family dwellings. East of the request contains single family dwellings. South of the request contains single family dwellings, undeveloped land and fullfax elementary school. And west of the request contains single family dwellings, undeveloped land and a residential office conversion. These are the conditions that were proposed by the applicant. And I recommend approval of the request to staff that the GSO 2040 comprehensive plans future build form map designates subject property as urban general. The comprehensive plan future land use map shows the properties as being inside the western area plan which designates the properties as residential. The proposed resing request supports both the comprehensive plans filling in our framework. big idea to arrange our land uses for where we live, work, attend school, shop, and enjoy our free time to create a more vibrant livable Greensboro and the creating great places goal to expand Greenville citywide network of unique neighborhoods offering residents all walks of life a variety of quality housing choices. The proposed CDO zoning district would allow land uses that are compatible with the general character of the area. Care should be taken with respect to building orientation, building materials, building and visual buffers to ensure an appropriate transition to the lower density res.

Thank you, Mr. Nelson. Any questions from the commission? Seeing none, would the applicant like to make any comments? You have up to two minutes. Okay. Thank you, Mr. I just wanted to add one thing. This is a clean because we had this in February 202. No, basically what they're doing is adding an additional property that was not available at the time to the overall development so they potentially have other access. Thank you for that clarity. Okay. So, we'll close the public hearing. I will entertain a motion

regarding Z25-84 um 9206 and 9220 West Market Street in the right of way. The Greensboro Planning and Zoning Commission believes that its action to recommend approval of the resoning request for the properties at 9206 and 9220 West Market Street and a portion of West Market Street right from R3 residential single family and CDO conditional district office to CDO conditional district office. to be consistent with the adopted GSO 2040 comprehensive plan and considers the action taken to be reasonable and in the public interest for the following reasons. One, the request is consistent with the comprehensive plans future built for map and future land use map. Two, the proposed CDO zoning district as conditioned permits uses that fit the context of the surrounding area and limits negative impacts on adjacent The request is reasonable due to the size, physical conditions, and other attributes of the area. It will benefit the property owner and surrounding community and approval is in the public interest. Sandra, I second the motion. Thank you, Mer. Now we will take a vote. All those in favor signify by raising your hand and saying I.

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Any opposed? That passes 920. This approval constitutes a final action unless an appeal is submitted in writing to the planning department and appeal fee paid within 10 days. Anyone may file such appeal. All such appeals will be subject to a public hearing at the Tuesday, September 16th, 2025 city council meeting. All adjoining property owners will be notified of any such appeal. We have just passed a living nursing home with 125 beds. The next item, item Z25-8005, a resoning request from CDC conditional district commercial high and CDB conditional district business park to CDPI conditional district public and institutional for the properties identified as 2909 and 29 Yorman Creek Road. Generally described as East of Horseman Creek Road and south of Jess Grove Road 35.37 acres and Mr.

Thank you chair. The zoning map of the area shows as you stated the property properties are approximately 35.37 acres and located east of Creek Road and south of Chess Grove Road. This is a request from CDCH and CDBP to CDPI. North of the request is zone PUB planning development. East of the request is zone R3. South and west of the request are zone R3 and PI. The aerial map shows specific properties currently contain a medical facility under construction. Note north of the request contains multif family dwellings, common elements and drainage and open space. East of the request contains undeveloped land. of the request contains single family dwellings and an outdoor recoation associated with a nearby private school. West of the request contain single family dwellings, a private school, an indoor outdoor recreation facility. This is the condition that was proposed by the applicant and recommend approval of the request staff. The GSO 2040 comprehensive plan designates this site as urban general on the future form map and residential in the future land use map. Snap the proposed zoning request supports the GSO 2040 comprehensive plans filling in our framework goal to invest in building and maintaining quality accessible public recreation centers, libraries, neighborhood park facilities and other services to sustain livable neighborhoods. and the building community connections goal to maintain stable, attractive, and healthy places to live with these families. The proposed CDP district as condition would limit uses to all uses within the medical facilities use category. The proposed uses are compatible with the general character of the area and continued development trends. The change in zoning for this property is appropriate given its location and

proximity to the for road tare questions.

Thank you. Any questions from the commissioners? Okay, seeing none, would the applicant like to speak? Okay, any questions? I just wanted to say that I'm a little state of this hospital facility. Okay. All right. Thank you. All right. So, we'll close the public hearing. I will entertain a motion.

Commissioner Stu Nichols regarding item Z25-08- Z005. The Greensboro Planning and Zoning Commission believes that its action to recommend approval of the reszoning request for the properties at 2909 and 2909 Yorp Creek Road. from CD CH conditional district commercial high and CD BP conditional district business park to CDPI conditional district public and institutional to be consistent with the adopted GSO 2040 comprehensive plan and considers the action taken to be reasonable and in the public interest for the following reasons. The request is consistent with the comprehensive plans future built form map and future land use map proposed CDPI zoning district as condition permits uses that fit the context of the surrounding area and limits negative impacts on adjacent properties. The request is reasonable due to the size, physical conditions and other attributes of the area. It will benefit the property owner and surrounding community and approval is public interest. Commission. Thank you, Mr. Nichols and Mr. Gilmer. Um, now we will take a vote. All those in favor signify by raising your hand and saying, "I." Anyone opposed? That passes 9 to zero. This approval constitutes a final action unless an appeal is submitted in writing to the planning department and the appeal fee paid within 10 days. Anyone may file such appeal. All such appeals will be subject to a public hearing at the Tuesday, September 16th. 2025 city council meeting and all adjoining property owners will be notified of any such appeal. And I'd just like to say this is coming to us in two phases. The first phase is 160,000

square foot medical office building and a 26,000 foot amulatoratory surgery center and the second phase is 160,000 foot hospital. Thank you for bringing us. The next item on our agenda is Z25-08-006, a reszoning request from CDRM26 conditional district residential multif family 26 to RM26 residential multif family 26 for property identified as 5909 Mack Road, generally described as west of Macki Road and north of West Gate City Boulevard, 3.15 acres. And Mr. Nelson Thank you. Maggot zoning map shows the subject property is approximately 3.15 acres and located west of Matthew Road north of West City Boulevard. As you say, this request from CD RM26 to straight arm 26. North and east the request are zones CM and CH. South of request is zone CM and town of Jamestown commercial. West the request is own town of Jamestown industrial and city commercial media. property currently contains a vacant structure in undeveloped land. North of the request contains shopping centers and a former bank. East of the request contains a shopping center and a pharmacy. South the request contains a pharmacy and self storage facility and west of the request contains vacant land. And I recommend approval of the request. Staff know that the GSO 2040 comprehensive plan designates the urban general and the future builds form map and the future land use map designates the property as residential and commercial. Staff noted that the proposed resoning request supports the comprehensive plans creating great

places goal to expand Greensboro citywide network of unique neighborhoods offering residents of all walks of life and variety of quality housing choices and the filling in our framework goal to encourage higher density mixeduse walkable inflow development and ensure mixeduse projects both strengthen and add value to the community. And Proposed farm 26 zoning district permits uses that are compatible with uses present in the surrounding area and would increase the range of choice and supply of housing in close proximity to a variety of commercial service uses any questions.

Any questions from the commissioners? Seeing none, would the applicant like to make any comments? You have up to two minutes. Um without further objection, we'll close the public hearing. Oh, I'm sorry. Any any questions from the commissioners? I had a question of the applicant who's apparently not here. Hi, my name is Derek Burr. I am from Kitty Academy. I am not the applicant, but I'm happy to answer any questions of the proposed use of this property.

Oh, Jimmy is here. I am. I'm the applicant. I'm here. Will you please put on your zoom your camera so that I'm sorry your video so we can see you. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Please give us your name and address.

So I'm Prateique Patel. Um so we um we currently we um we have the ODI Academy of Cornelius and Lake Norman. Um, and we're planning to build the Katy Academy of Greensboro here. Um, I currently live in 440 being Crosby Boulevard, Advance, North Carolina, but we're planning to build a house in Grand. So, I'm planning to relocate over there, but we we own um a Fairfield and a town place in Greensboro as well. So, we have a lot of we do commercial business in Greensboro as well. Mr. Patel, this is Mary SK. My question is this parcel was reszoned in April of 2021

with two conditions. Uh one that it was limited to 76 multifamily dwellings. It was limited to a maximum of 50 ft and four stories in height. In this new request, you have removed all the conditions. What can you tell us about why you removed those conditions?

So, um, whenever we spoke with the people that we were purchasing the land from, so the current owners, um, they were, um, they basically stated that we can, the owners were willing to change it to a child care zoning. And those people that currently own it are the ones that put in the zoning provisions before that were preventing that from happening. So, um I mean if the owner, the previous owners are willing to like, you know, make the change and they're selling us that land, then I don't think it should be a problem. But basically, the land um is a flat land. There's not it's it's built it's surrounded by a bunch of commercial properties. So you wouldn't be able to do any type of residential zoning there. It's right behind a Walgreens. So it's I mean in terms of the parcel, it is like built for a child care type facility more so than any type of residential community. And there is like a a vacant property, but it's really old. We can't really get into it. We'd have to like purchase the property and tear down all the trees to be able to get to that facility. But um it's kind of We think that it would work for the child care zoning provisions, but Derek can speak more to it as well. So Derek's come is from the Katy Academy side, so the corporate side, and she handles the construction type related questions from their end.

All right. Centers and the RM26 zoning that he's requested. You have to subject to use conditions in order for it to be used as a daycare center. So, what are we what are we voting on here?

You're voting on everything in the RM26 district. Let me be clear about that, too. So, still I have the options for residential and everything else. Um, schools and churches are uses that are allowed in all zoning districts. So, those would be allowed as uses within the RM26 and then daycare centers as well. And I'm looking right now to see if there's anything there. I don't think there is for commercial center. We have we have commercial daycarees in RM zoning elsewhere in the city. We have commercial daycare centers with RM zoning elsewhere in the city. All right. Under our our guidelines, it talks about conditions. Uh it's permitted. Daycare centers are permitted,

right? Subject to use conditions, right? And really the only the only use conditions you have for would be a child daycare home by our definition. Basically top um describing those as commercial use. Um if it's a greater than three site then it has to have access from a thoroughare collector street which road would be a meet that requirement. So there really isn't a whole lot of of additional standards in our ordinance. It refers basically to the state of North Carolina that they have to meet all their requirements. But there's a lot of extra standards in in the LDO for this use and those additional standards would come in play at the TRC level.

Yes. Right. As part of any plan review, we do apply them at that point.

That's all I have.

Well, when I looked at when I looked at it, um the um height was different. RM26 it could go up to 80 feet in height and um just because of the land you could go up to 81 units. Is that something is the applicant still on the line? Is that something you're considering? Oh, I'm still on the line. I can't all one story. Yeah, sorry.

Sorry. Uh chair Magg with it being a straight rezoning conditions. I just want to remind the board, you have to be comfortable with the full gamut of uses that could could be open. So, I don't want there to be a uh reliance on something that's not baked into a condition. We're not designing the site. We just want to know what he's going to do. Yeah, we're confused. The applicant is indicating a child daycare center. Okay. We just think the whole

It's a child daycare center. Um it's ages six weeks to five years um under the franchise and kitty academy. So we have two locations that are similar to this and it's all one story building and it would be 11 rooms. So each room would be designated to a certain age group. You'd have two infant rooms, two toddler rooms, two two-year-old, two three-year-old and two foury old rooms. Thank you. Does that does that answer your question? I apologize. I want to make sure that yes it does. That was very helpful. Thank you so much.

Any questions from the any other questions from the commissioners? Sandra Okconor. I just want to clarify that what we are saying however is any use appropriate under this reasoning we should be comfortable with if we vote in favor.

Yes. Thank you for that clarity. Okay. Uh I will entertain a motion. Would someone make the motion please? Thank you. Regarding Z25-08-6, um the Greensboro Planning and Zoning Commission believes that its action to recommend approval of the reszoning request for the property at 500 9 Macki Road from CDRM26 conditional district residential multifamily 26 to RM26 residential multif family 26 to be consistent with the adopted GSO 2040 comprehensive plan and considers the action taken to be reasonable and in the public interest for the following reasons. The request is consistent with the comprehensive plan future built for map and future land use map. The proposed RM26 zoning district permits uses that fit the context of the surrounding area and limits negative impacts on adjacent properties. The request is reasonable and reasonable due to the size, physical conditions and other attributes of the area. It will benefit the property owner and surrounding community and approval is in the public interest. Mr.

Thank you, Mr. Turner. Mr. Now we will take all those in favor signify by raising hand and saying I see that. Thank you. Um all those opposed that passes 920. This approval constitutes a final action unless an appeal is submitted in writing to the planning department and the appeal fee paid within 10 days. Anyone may file such appeal. All such appeals will be subject to a public hearing at the Tuesday, September 16th, 2025 city council meeting. All adjoining property owners will be notified of any such appeal. And the next item on the expedited is item Z25-08-007, a reszoning request from CM commercial medium to CDRM26 conditional district residential multif family 26 for the property identified as 2701A North Henry Boulevard generally described as west of North Ohenry Boulevard and east of 16th Street and south of Fellow Street 5.46 acres and Mr. Carter.

Thank you. This is the zoning map of the subject property showing that is contains 5.46 acres and is located west of north of Henry Boulevard Street and south of Longfellow Street. This is a reasoning request from CM26. North of this request is zone R5. East of the request is CH for commercial high and conditional district heavy industrial. South of the request is commercial and office. West of the request is z.ores. North of the request contains single family dwellings. of the request contains a warehouse. Living facility storage and west of the request contain single and multi. This is the zoning condition that was proposed by the applicant. In recommending approval of this of this request, staff notes that the GSO 2040 comprehensive plan designates this site as urban general on the future for map and residential on the future land use map. The proposed original zoning request supports both the comprehensive plans goal to expand Greensboro's citywide network of neighborhoods offering residents of all walks of life a variety of quality housing choices and the plans creating great places. housing with sufficient and diverse supply of housing products and location. The proposed CDRM26 condition limits available uses to resity

to major. should be taken with respect to building orientation materials height and visual buffers to ensure an appropriate transition to the resial. Thank you, Mr. Carter. Does the commission have any questions? Okay, seeing none, would the applicant like to present any comments? You have up to two minutes. All right. Thank you. Um any any questions for me?

I just have a comment. I am rather pleased by the couple um development of this particular area, the former Regency. It was an eyesore and now it purports to have tremendous development for that side of town and I also see the community engagement but also the intentional development that is happening in the area. So I I do say thank you. Salute to your team. All right. I had a question for the applicant. You want to come to the podium? Thank you.

Thank you, chair. My name is Cynthia Blue from the Housing and Neighborhood Development Department and you're representing the city of Greensburg, correct? Okay. So, this says maximum dwelling units is 130 units. Um, could you give us a little understanding? what this request is. Sure. Um I do actually have a brief presentation if that's more helpful. Two minutes. You have two minutes. All right.

All right. Just very briefly the timeline of the the project that we are on. The acquire the U former Regency and Motel site in October of 2024. I think those of you who are familiar with that area know what condition that that site was in and the level of service calls from fire, EMS, police, all of those. It had become a real nuisance property. For the for the past three years, we've been using it for emergency housing, both winter emergency and currently right now the summer doorways program for summer emergency housing. If you've been out through there, you see the little the pallet shelter houses that are out there. Um we did put out a development request for proposals in October of 2024 and um the RFP review committee has recommended DHIC which is a very well-known nonprofit developer out of Raleigh. Um this we are at the point now of the city initiated resoning process and then we hope to go to council with the recommendation to sell the land to DHIC for development. In terms of communications, um, a press release went out on July 11th. We had extensive media coverage. Um, as well as, um, we put it out through city social media sources next door. Um, we sent out letters, um, I believe the city sent letters to 109 and then we sent actually to the entire neighborhood adjacent to the property. So, we sent 209 letters out. Um, the neighborhood meeting was on July 29th. We had really good feedback. There's a summary in your package of the feedback from the neighborhood. And then we also went to the concerned citizens of Northeast Greensboro's August meeting and presented there as well to about 40 people in attendance. Um we've been collecting an email list of folks who are interested in tagging along and and seeing how we how we come through with the project. And very quickly, this resoning request is currently zones commercial medium for the previous use as a hotel. We

requesting CDRM 26 um limited to 130 units and the anticipated use is a two-phase multif family development of 114 units 54 of those restricted senior units and 60 family units. The site is excellent for housing development. We're looking forward moving forward with this project. Thank you very much. Okay, any any questions from the commissioners? Okay, I'm glad we Thank you for telling us what it We really appreciate that. Without further objection, we'll close the public hearing. I will entertain a motion.

Yes, madam chair. Like to make a motion for agenda item number Z258007. The Greensboro Planning and Zoning Commission believes that it action to recommend approval of the reszoning request for the property at 2701A North O'Henry Boulevard from CM Commercial Medium to CDRM26. district residential multifamily 26 to be consistent with the adopted GSO 2040 comprehensive plan and considers the action taken to be reasonable and in the public interest for the following reasons. Number one, the request is consistent with the comprehensive plan's future built form map and future land use map. Number two, the proposed CDRM26 zoning district as condition permits uses that fit the context of the surrounding area and limits negative impacts on adjacent properties. And number three, the request is reasonable due to the size, physical conditions, and other attributes of the area. It will benefit the property owner, surrounding community, and approval is in the public interest.

Sandra O' Conor, I second the motion. Thank you, Mr. Downing Conor, we will now take a vote. All those in favor signify by raising their hand and saying I. I.

All opposed. That passes 920. Um, this approval constitutes final action unless an appeal is submitted in writing to the planning department and the appeal fee paid within 10 days. Anyone may file such appeal. All such appeals will be subject to a public hearing at the Tuesday, September 16th, 2025 city council meeting. All adjoining property owners will be notified of any such appeal. Um the the commissioners have asked for a five minute break. So we're going to take a five minute break. Okay. We'll be back in 102. Recording stopped. [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] The future of aviation is right here at Pedmont Triad International airport. And when you see what is going to be built here, you will think you've stepped into a time machine.

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What did it take to make this announcement happen today? It took hundreds of people, people in Guilford County, our surrounding counties at the state, our state legislators, all of the economic development, if you add it up, maybe close to a thousand people who have touched this project. And this project turned around really fast. I'm actually surprised how quickly it went from the beginning to the announcement.

And specifically, what did it take within this city to help make this happen? water and sewer. You know, when you look around at this whole airport campus, this is all Greensboro water and sewer. And so, our water and sewer department did yman's work making sure that we had the capacity and the ability to feed a project as big as this. I mean, now with Honda Jet and FedEx here and boom and now all these. So, what does he think about aviation in Greensboro and how did we become this place,

you know? years ago, we talked about having this airport be an aeratropolis, and people laugh like, what's an aeratropolis? Well, here it is. You know, it is to have these amazing employers and then all of the supply chain that will come around it. For just about every job that's created out here, you can count on maybe five spin-off jobs elsewhere throughout the region.

And talking about jobs, this is going to bring a lot of jobs. a lot of jobs at an average wage of almost $90,000. Those are lifechanging wages. And you know, there will be customized training for for people. So, you know, if there are people watching us and they think, "Well, I'll never get the jobs." That's not true. Go to the um Guilford Works, find out more about it. Go to the community colleges. There is customized training. We want our residents to fill these jobs. What does this mean personally to you? Well, you know, I only have about 169 days left. Not that you're counting.

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[Music] [Music] [Music] Thank you. Um, I'd just like to remind you, please remember that you are sharing the designated time limits for speaking and we want everyone tonight to feel fairly and evenly heard. Okay, so just anyhow. All right, here we go. Item PLP25-31 PLP25-31 again. Uh, they're all okay. I'll just I'll just add in the correct numbers. Okay, because I know what they are. Okay. Okay, perfect. Thank you. Item PL25-31. PLP 25-32 PLP 25-33 PLP 35- 25-34 PLP25-35 and Z25-08 001 an annexation original zoning request from county AG agricultural

county GS3 residential single family 3 county RS20 res Single family county RS30 residential single family county RS40 residential single family county CZ-0 L0 conditional zoning limited office and CZ GB conditional zoning general business to city pud planned unit development and consideration of a required unified development plan for the is 6846 Banning Road, 5411 and 5411 ZZ Center Road, 5790 Meadow Pond Court, 6784 Meadow View Drive, 3668, 3672, 3674, 3683, 3685, 3687 3727 and 3634 Oak Ridge Road. 3136 3144 3148 3200 3203 3204 3209 3215 3219 3220 3221 and 3239. Pleasant Ridge Road. 19 Rabbit Hollow Road, 6925 ZZ, 6935, 6955 ZZ, and 7036 Summerfield Road. 7631,

7650, and 7652 Dau Road, 7211, and 727 ZZ Wyatt Drive. 5920 and 5930 Khaki Place. All of Khaki Place right ofway. All of Banning Road right ofway. A portion of Brook Bank Road right ofway. A portion of Four Cedars Drive right away. Portions of Pleasant Ridge Road right away. Portions of Oak Ridge Road right away. And portions of Interstate 73 right away. 9 128 acres and Mr. This is the zoning map of the subject property and generally describing um the property it contains approximately 912.38 acres and is again generally described as being east and west of I73 north and south of Oakidge Road, west of west of The request includes five annexations. So all of the PP numbers that were read out, those are all annexation requests. Um all of the property that are associated with those annexation requests are incorporated into one zoning request. Um that zoning request is to go from county agricultural county RS3 which is residential single family uh county RS20 which is another residential single family zoning district RS30 county RS40 county zoning limited office county zoning general

business and all of that to go the request is to go to city planned unit development And also there's a consideration of a unified development plan. At the end I'm going to describe around the property. I'm going to start on the northernmost block that you see and kind of describe down the east side back to the north. So it's a lengthy presentation but that's that's generally how it's going to go. North of the request is zone Summerfield Conditional Zoning Industrial, Somefield Open Space Residential, Somefield Industrial, Somefield Residential, and Summerfield Agricultural. East of the Zfield Resfield, Summerfield, Somefield, and Summerfield. of the request is zoned city and natural resource area conditional zoning open space residential andfield zoning agricultural west of the request open space residential residential andfield agricultural this is the aerial Um the subject property currently contains agricultural uses, single family dwellings, special events facility, office use, uh and a subdivision clubhouse, which is technically an accessory to subdivision. North of the request contains dwellings, undeveloped land, and a public park and manufactured home park. East of the

request contains industrial use, a school, single family dwellings, undeveloped land, another manufactured home, and an overnight accommodation. South of the request contains a school, single family dwellings, undeveloped land, public land. West of the request contains single family dwellings, I3. So I'm going to describe the subject properties and again starting at the north and working our way around. This image shows the subject property from road which is identified with annexation case number 25-35. This is the subject property seen from place number 2534. This is a subject property as seen from Oakidge Road. This is number 254. You guys are okay with it. I'm not going to say numbers are cases are This is subject property as seen from road. This is subject property as seen from road. This is also subject property from road. This is subject propertyfield road. This is also subject property seen from road subject property as seen from Brook Road.

This is subject property on Oakidge Road. Now, this image shows a single family dwelling located north of the D road zone. RS30. This image is of undeveloped land as seen from I73. This is onfield industrial. This actually shows this east of the request and there's no zoning map does not show a zoning classification for this property. This is an example of the single family dwellings located east of the request on roadfield RS30. This image shows undeveloped land east of the request RSfield. This image shows a school located east of the request on Oakidge Roadfield Agricultural. This image shows examples of the single family dwellings located east of the request RS. This image shows a community onfield located east of the requestfield. This is example of the single family dwellings located east of the request on drive zonfield RS. This is an example of the single family dwellings located on Pleasant Ridge. This is RSfield

Roadfield. This is a shopping center located east of the request zonefield. This image shows manufactur located east of the request zfield. This image shows overnight accommodations located east of the request zonefield. This image shows what appears to be a single family retail located east roads. This image shows an example of a single family located south of me. This image shows located. This image shows driveway for two single family dwellings located on Banning Roadfield Agricultural. This image shows located shows an example of the single family dwellings located west of the request on Catherine Drivefield. This view is facing south road

property again on the left. This view is facingtheast onfield road. The subject property is on the left. This view is facing south on Pleasant Ridge on both sides of the road. And this is facing north road on both sides of the road. facing eastwest on Brook Road on both sides of the road. This is facing east on Oakidge Road. The subject property is on both sides of the road and this is facing west on Oakidge Road here as well. These are the conditions that were proposed by the applicant. The applicant submitted a unified development plan that splits the property into multiple phases and also known as villages on the development plan. This zoning condition applies to phases one, two, and three. This zoning condition applies to phases four, five, nases six, seven, and eight. This is the representation of the

unified development plan. You can see all of the different villages and there are 15 pages to this unified development plan. But this is the coverage. In recommending approval of this request, staff notes that the comprehensive plans future bill format currently designates similar nearby properties as urban general and future land use map designates similar nearby properties as residential. The proposed original zoning request supports the comprehensive plans great places goal to have a citywide network of unique neighborhoods which offer residents of all walks of life choices and the filling in our framework big workends. The proposed plan unit development zoning district as condition is primarily intended to accommodate a broad mix of resial housing types and complimentary non-residential land uses. The request also introduces innovative neighborhood design while preserving open space. The proposed original care should be taken with respect to building orientation materials height visual buffers and visual buffers to transition to existing.

Thank you, Mr. Carter. That was quite a presentation. Um, would like to come forward.

Okay. If the applicant would come forward, you have up to 10 minutes. Please give us your name and address. Good evening. I'm Tom Street. I'm here as the attorney for all of the applicants. We will do all of this as one presentation. I may speak at some later this evening, but for now I would just simply like to introduce Victor who is indisputably one of this country's leading Good evening, Commissioners. My name is Victor Dover. I'm a town planner and neighborhood designer with Doc Colon Partners in Coral Gables. First, where are the proposed villages? This map is simplified to show the darker green color showing the city limits of the city of Greensboro today. the Christopher track which was the one we brought to you earlier this year is the one with the red line around it right in the center of your screen and now as promised we're bringing you the other 10 villages the city of Greensboro today extends right up to and along the southern edge of what we call middle villages and you can see those middle villages in the center of your streaming from west to east from the interstate to Brook Roadidge Somefield road and that's tying together east and west and isolated part of the region at the top of the screen. The north villages are the ones that are clustered around the interchange of excuse me.

Excuse me for one minute. Is there any way we can send someone to figure out where that noise is coming from and try to control it? It's coming from the courtyard area. I don't know specifically where I'm used to wormers. Okay. Keep going. Just like to show you what's envisioned. Thank you.

Um, this is a legacy project which is as much about conservation and stewardship as it is about real estate development. But we all know one of the delights out there is these long views across open spaces. So we thought what if what if we could develop on part but save the rest words fold up the development that would otherwise fill up the property and then move it into the right places artfully and that way the villages would be set within this vast green network of fields and forests and parks. That's the biggest of the big ideas. But just to be clear, first things first, the bottom line green space preservation on describe would also exceed all the applicable city, county, state, and federal requirements for protection of natural resources. But the approach that we're proposing here does more than that. It will allow us to accommodate the growth but still keep this beautiful pasture green forever. This is one of the example villages. We call this one Edwards Park. What you see in the map is that the development areas are tucked in closer together so that the best natural assets can remain whole and that's the big idea. Now that there are more that allows us to have an extensive trails and greenway system building in a compact way makes room for that and the founders of the villages envision rotating the houses so that they face the trails and greenways with the front porches instead I'm working through this collection of different kinds of green spaces that bind the network together. In addition to the fields and forests and parks I talked about before, there's also the idea that each village would have its

own central gathering space, a village green or neighbor square. And then the last but not least, the green treeine streets. So the goal here is to make it more connected and meaningful for birds and butterflies and water quality and so on, but also for humans because this would provide a kind of connectedness that's missing in this part of the metropolitan region today. This map is when we put all those components I just described together across the middle villages. I hope you can see why we call this starting with the green parts. Now, another key idea is that although the villages will have lots of different kinds of places to live and to work and work from home also include other things to visit and walk to short trips like coffee shop. So, our goal is to make sure that they're useful and interesting daily within walking distance of every home. This is probably not sounding foreign to you because I'm describing the kinds of neighborhoods for which you invented your traditional neighborhood or TN district. That was our starting point. We worked up the development standards that are in this unified development plan. We took our regulatory cues from the DNA in that ordinance. Another of the key ideas is to have the widest possible variety of housing. It's natural that there will be some large houses on larger lots across your region, but there will also be mediumiz homes and smaller homes and cottages that are on smaller cluster lots and that would include single family houses, also known as town houses, row houses that we think those could be used to create comfortable cozy streets like

the ones you might find in Savannah or Oldtown. Alexandria that smaller cottages and bungalow format can be arranged with shared gardens. So we started that with the Christopher village earlier this year. And then last on the housing two more things also to include some what we call buildings which look like a house but actually have four to eight units. Now last the city of Greensboro like and every housing advocacy organization apa. They're a great way to reinforce affordability and security and keep families together. We will also have apartments and this has been much a subject of discussion over the years. Yes, we'll have some garden style apartment buildings. We've planned these as street friendly upgraded versions of the idea of garden apartments and we would put them along those treeline streets just like the townous houses facing their front porches. The idea is when we arrange them in this way along traditional streets and traditional neighborhoods. The result will be much better than conventional apartment complexes. These two examples you've been seeing are from Saunders Village where Oakidge Road Interstate 73. That's the triangle in the center of your screens to another one of the key ideas. The thought is that the mixed uses are promoted throughout all the village that is meant to be more of a shared center. This site's been zoned for a long time as a commercial shopping center site. So what we've done in the UDP is recast

that so that now you have some shopping like the grocery store and the retail and restaurants and so on, but also lodging and workplaces and housing for a better balance talking about the uses and where they would all be arranged. Let's talk about traffic. The PUB has a twostage procedure for analyzing the traffic and the transportation matters. The initial transportation assessment is a thing that follows a lot of collaboration between KDson engineers and do big picture what that found everything I've shown you is doable from a transportation but there's another stage to the procedure at each phase each phase in the unified development plan as a village at each phase there would be a deeper analysis traditional uh analysis transportation impact study preceding development and that's where the the study will stipulate whatever the required actions are that will address transportation impacts at that time. The reason for this is that this is a 30-year project with 10 of those villages. So we want to make sure that each of these transportation impact studies is responding to the real world conditions both with mobility and technology and work and so on of that time and this two-stage procedure allows us to do that. Finish by reminding that like with Christopher this is just in keeping with the compens on a larger campus.

seeking is a level of connectedness and coherence that peace development would never allow. That's why it's as large as it is. So that's our summary. I look forward to answering your questions.

You have stop. Thank you, Mr. Carol. Can you pull your microphone down?

I can standing on my tippy toes. My name is Carol Carter. I am a land use and transportation planner with over 30 years of experience. Speaking in favor and I wanted to emphasize the amount of planning that has gone into this project. Normally you don't see that as a zoning commission. You come in and you have to map but um do I've had the opportunity to work with several times and they are one of the best in the country. And uh with the petitioner going forward and hiring a planning firm having as many community meetings as they have is something unprecedented when you come before the zoning commission for the original zoning and I believe that talks about the quality of this development. You have 53 seconds.

Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Oh, there's one more. Okay.

Dale 58. Snow Hill Drivefield. We've lived here 22 years. Where I'm coming from is we lived in the largest PD in the whole United States. It was the fastest growing area in the United States. I was on school board. My husband was on planning. We would pass three or four schools at a time with referendums because the growth was so terrific. Um what was and Ken was on on the planning board, but we saw some of the mistakes that were made along the way. Um, so we've learned a lot from them from that and I just really want to say what a professional presentation this has been and everyone from Greensboro that I have met that is into planning or zoning whatever you're doing. Everyone is so professional. Um, it's important to know that there is no Greensboro forced zoning. This is a voluntary aunt zoning. There's rumors right now in Somefield that we're going to all be just swallowed up by Greensboro and I'm sorry I don't have another minute or two because I do have important things to say.

Well, we'll let you come back and speak at the rebuttal time first. Okay. Okay. So, stay with us. Thank you. Okay. Um, next. Next. Those wishing to speak in opposition, you have 10 shared total minutes. And we have a Jim Bennett and a Mr. Nash who's online. And we have Jonathan Ballinger who's here. Do we have Mr. Nash online? Are we ready for him? Just want to make

Yes, Megan. Okay. Thank you. Please state your name and address.

Jim Bennett, 6801 Banning Road. Okay. I want I want it known. I'm not for this subdivision. I'm not against it. Man owns property. He should be able to do with what he wants. What I am asking is 6801 banning. I have an easement across part of his property. when y'all came out there on your hay ride, y'all didn't see that. Okay. Mr. Couch at that time thought that uh Banning Road touched me, but it doesn't. For me to be able to do with my property, the best use of it, either me or my family, Banning Road needs to touch my property. Like I say, I have an easement across it. My son has an ement across it. But if we are touched, that gives us time to use the best uh use of that land. I also want you to know I'm surrounded by Armfield on the top, city of Greensboro on the bottom, which the town of or the city of Greensboro took part of that property from my family. My family's lived on that property for four generations. We want to keep it the way it is. Okay. I do not want to be in the city of Greensboro. I really didn't want to be in a city in the town of Somerfield, but I really didn't have a choice. Okay? But I'm a country boy. That's all I am. And I'm asking y'all to add to the zoning that he connects

banning road to my my property and my son's property as a condition. Town of Somerfield did that when it was resed originally. So I don't see what a problem could be with that. Thank you. Duly noted. Thank you so much. Anyone else want to speak in opposition? We have a John Mr. Nash online. Can we go to Mr. Nash online? Mr. Chair Megan. Yes. Can you hear me? Okay. Can you put your um video on, please?

Well, I don't have a camera, so you're not going to see any thing except the blank screen. Do you want me to proceed? What? Oh, you don't have a camera. You don't have a camera. Okay. Please proceed. You ready? Yes. Give us your name and address. I'll Um, I'll take a few minutes. Just a couple of comments. Uh, in general, first give us your name and first give us your name and address for the record. Okay. It's John Nash. I live in Pinson Forest on Blue A Trace and have lived there for the last 12 years. I'm very familiar with Somerfield. What is your address? What is your address? You want the number to

Yes, please. 6329 blue aster trace. Thank you.

Okay. Uh two comments. One, uh I do have some concerns. I'm primarily concerned with the transportation issue. When you consider Revolution Academy on the two-lane road, the the amount of traffic even now is horrendous in the morning and afternoon from 73 all the way to And I'm not really sure how they're going to deal with that. I've heard words about roundabouts and things like that, but I think that's a major area that's probably going to have to be addressed as the different phases proceed. The main thing I wanted to mention today is uh about Johnson Village. If you look at your map, Johnson Village is nowhere near anything else. It's like a little island sitting on the uh the uh west side of 3. It's directly by Armfield subdivision which has 60 houses right next to it. And I'd say the buffer is very minor between the development if it occurs in that area and this residential area. Directly across the street from Armfield is Henston Forest subdivision. So you have two major subdivisions on the uh on the west side of 73. that are not contiguous with the rest of the development. Even though one map shows it, that's nothing but a covert between underneath 73. And I think what will happen is I think uh when you bring a development into that area that's other than single family residential I think it's going to have dramatic effect both on the traffic on that portion of Oakidge Road as well as the value of the properties over there uh with those two subdivisions. So I would ask the planning board to

segregate Johnson Village and make it single family residential and then do all the other villages as they have proposed. But look at Johnson as a separate entity in that regard. And those are my comments. Thank you very Thank you very much, Mr. Nash. I've written that down and we'll get Thank you. You're welcome. Appreciate it. And then there was a Jonathan Ballinger who's here. Thank you.

Hello, I'm Jonathan Ballinger. 6112 Ballinger Road, Greensboro. I'm not against the uh development of the property. We have 130 acres north of this property on the Dau Road. and along 73 uh is farmland. We want to keep it that way. I talked to Mr. Couch. He I expressed my concern about where water and sewer would go. He said it would not go across our property. I just want to be assured of that by the city because I've not seen a site plan of any kind. And if I can be assured of that, I have no objection to anything. And he said he was not. U we just do not want the city of Greensburg to domain to come across our farm later and that's our main concern and if they can assure us that would be great. Thank you.

Thank you very much. Okay. Um any more people in opposition who would like to speak? Okay. I just had um one followup question just to ask staff. Um Mr. Ballinger's talking water and sewer going, you know, and so forth. Um, would you explain what we're allowed to do and what we're not allowed to do and what comes next?

Correct. Right. Basically uh your role here is to look at the annexation question whether or not city services can be all these properties and the zoning that allows different specific configuration of how that infrastructure is laid out and how the development is done is going to be dealt with processing process that question.

So that comes after this. So, Mr. Okay. So, um now let's see. Uh anybody else who wants to uh speak in opposition? There's four minutes left. Okay. Um so, we will um now do the rebuttal, but the applicant has five minutes of rebuttal. The applicant does not have a rebuttal, but we would like to defer to former mayor D. There's this rumor that Greensboro is just going to gobble up everything in Summerfield. And it's important to know that there is no forced annexation. This is a voluntary annexation. a 30-y year project has an excellent plan to provide water, sewer, the important amenities, and I'm sure you're going to work through the traffic and some of these other things uh during that time because it's been very professional uh it's been professional. So, and with the um right now though in summer, one of the things to be careful if you would please to make sure there's continuity of zoning. We don't have that in Somefield in our UDO. You can put a next to a single family home. So continuity of zoning I think is going to be very important all over. Um and preserving uh the nature portions is going to be important in the roads. Um right now we have in Somefield we do have new homes uh and but we have homes that have been there for 50 years and they're very concerned if their if their home is going to be disrupted. But there's no uh there's no forced annexation and sure you're going to have respect for the people that have been

there for just as long. We really want to protect the farms. If the farms want to stay there, make sure that they have access to traffic or whatever they need. Um keep that in mind because this is going to be maybe adjacent to that property. So we really want to protect the older homes and the farms and and the existing homes also. Um seems you you just you're really professional. You seem to have this all together. I I hope you have adequate staff. Uh this is going to be a big project. Maybe you will have to add a couple more professionals. Um but we really appreciate your help in respecting our homes. Thank you very much.

Thank you very much. Mr. Ter, I have a couple questions. Um, yeah, I'm I'm a little confused because Mr. Nash mentioned um uh Brook Bank Road and the Armfield development there and Hans Farm development, but he was talking about Johnson Village, which is on the other side of the interstate and I don't see it Brook Road um at all. I see Henson Forest Drive is up around there. So, I'm a little bit confused with this comment. You know,

let's see if we can get this back up. Johnson Village is in fact on the west side, right? But he mentioned Brook Road as being the area that he was concerned about. And I remember seeing Henderson Farm being on Brook, but Johnson is to the west of the interstate.

That's right. Brook Road is this street here which leads from Oakidge Road down this way through the Armfield subdivision. There is perhaps where the confusion comes from is that there's another portion of the original Armfield development which was as isolated to the west of Johnson village to the west of I73. So that's where it's a Forest Drive extends south. Johnson Village is the one western most here. So it's on the west side of I73.

And and the um two developments he's talking about is way over on on Brook Bank Road. That line, if you can just put your arrow on it. Yeah, they're over in there. So that's why I was confused about there's a portion of the original Armfield development that started and then didn't and then it didn't get finished and Mr. C bought the remnant property which extends what we're calling Arfield Arfield West. Okay. So that so they don't where he was talking about does not touch the Johnson village. There is a single family subdivision on the longite.

But is that develop? I don't think that development is that Armfield, too. That is also Oh, I didn't know that the confusion. Okay. I didn't realize it went on that side as well. Okay. Thank you for the clarity. But is Henson also over there? So, there's Hson Farms which is in this generally in this area along Brookson forest north of the interstate road at the top left. Okay. Thank you.

Okay. I didn't I didn't didn't look at that. Okay. Thank you for that clarity. Um I appreciate that. Yeah. The banning road. I I just wanted to ask one other thing, Mr. Terrell. Mr. Are you aware of the um easement on Banning Road?

Um we've been made aware of an ement. I have any independent information about what's recorded, what's not. That is a North Carolina Department of Transportation road. Um, it's it's I think your attorney will tell you this is not something that's resolved or addressed in a zoning context, right? I can't put words in his mouth. Mr. Terrell is correct. Yes. Thank you. I just wanted clarity on that as well.

Hi, I'm David Couch. property owner. I'd just like to say that Mr. Bennett and I have spoken whether there's an easement or whether there isn't an easement. Uh I trust him that and I'm having that reviewed right now, but we have zero intention to cut his access off and whatever we do there to improve Manning Road would make would take their needs into consideration and provide access there and improve that access. It's a dirt road or whatever else. So when we improve it, we have zero intention to cut his access off in any way, shape, or form. Thank you, Mr. Couch. We appreciate that. Thank you. Um, any rebuttal in the opposition? We have time now. If anyone who is opposed to this would like to speak, you have five up to five minutes. We have people online, too. Maybe Mr. Nash would like to say something else. Okay. Um, thank you. So, with so, um, any other questions from the commissioners before I close the public hearing?

Okay. Uh, without further objection, we'll close the public hearing. Are there any comments or thoughts to be shared by the commissioners before we make our motions?

I want to Thank you to the applicant. Um, this is an incredible project being brought forward. Lots of thought, lots of energy, and to be able to do it and preserve as much open space, which is what Summerfield is wants to try to keep, this plan doesn't. In addition, the time you spent educating everyone involved in this project because it is complicated. Um, you went out of your way over what we've seen from other developers sometimes um to make sure we understood the project. So if we're not asking a lot of questions is because you answered them all uh in in previous sessions and just thank you. I think another reason why we um don't have um a lot of questions or even comments in opposition is because of the excellent outreach job that your team did. And I think you know for a project of this magnitude and this complexity in order to get this level of consensus is truly remarkable. And the result is that we've got a a huge breakthrough for for Greensboro. We've got a victory for housing and we've got a massively overdue acknowledgement of extraordinary persistence and forethought by the talented team that you assembled, Mr. Couch, um as a visionary thought leader. And so I I share uh Commissioner SK's um thanks for bringing this and for persisting on it.

Anyone else?

Yes, I'd like to add something as well. This is is indeed a robust project over a 30-year period, but I believe in about 15 years, even a decade from now, we would look at this and say that was a solid decision. I'm also reflecting on the fact of the presentation and the the graphics. Yes, there are just schematics and they're just ideas, but it makes a big deal when one takes the time to look at what the future can be like. And I'm thinking about this as well. This is setting a national precedent. I did some research. This is setting a national precedent for what a village of the future can look like. But also look at other cities such as Austin and other areas that have done similar concepts. It revolves around making the city look great, but also drives economic development and it makes for beautiful homes. You already have beautiful homes in the area and beautiful property and I believe this is going to enhance that and it's going to drive economic mobility and other enhancements. So, this is indeed going to be a village of the future and um it it was a pleasure to see the presentation and um all those great things. So, we're looking forward to the future. I also I agree with Mr. Downing and the other comments Mr. Nichols made. Uh for me, it's an interesting comparison that we recently were dealing with some adjustments to Rey Fork, which when it was proposed was a 30-year plan, and here we are 25 years later. So, I'm especially impressed that they're talking about re-evaluating uh the transportation and making adjustment analysis as we move along into this 30-year plan. Uh the forethought and the vision for this village and the concepts that are presented to us are just outstanding and uh I'm very excited to see this unfold. So, thank you very much.

I'd just like to say that this is not about disfigur disfiguring the existing land. You know, with each of these villages as they will come about, uh we will be seeing creativity that Greensboro has never seen before in in the development process. Um the fact that 330 acres of the 912 remain as green space, open is just amazing and that the concept takes the houses that'll be rotated to face green trails. We'll be we've heard about a green network. I don't think we've ever heard about a green network before. Um the the way that you've used old ideas like row houses and and cottage courts and so forth and are making them new again is remarkable. And I love the fact, you know, I mean, we just came out of 2020 when we had never heard the name COVID. We had never heard about Zoom and we never worked at home. I can't even imagine what it's going to be like in another 10 years or 20 years. What the things will be automatic buses. I have no idea the transportation trends will change, but the way that you are have created this um is just such, you know, people from all over the country, I think, and and besides all us, people from Greensboro will be enjoying. So, thank you so much,

Erica Glass. Um, I was very impressed with the presentation as well, but I'm always impressed with the presentations if someone has the forethought to sit down and think about how they like to present this information. It's great to see in this part of the city that this type of de development um and creativity has come forward. However, it certainly would be interesting to it would be nice to see this type of development and a forethought creativity for other parts of the city. I live in southeastern Greensboro. This is not my soap box, but I am going to say this. I live in southeastern Greensboro and it certainly absolutely would be welcome in my side of the town um to see something as beautiful as um it has been presented to this commission.

Madam Chair, I've been around for a while and I live in northeast Greensboro and I agree with you. I would like to see some development like this. Great presentation. Thank you for your job that you did. you impressed us and hope the mayor will be very satisfied in the end. I will be supported. Thank you.

Okay. So, in order to do this, we will close the public hearing without further objection and um we will be needing a um five annexation um request, an original zoning, and the UDP. Yes. So, let me let me see what Yes, you're gonna Right. We we want to hear more from Mr. Carter as to are there images for us to read and so forth. Thank you.

You see the map on your screen? Yes. So, first off would be the annexation request. This is the recommendation for POP-25-31.

Okay. So, um I'm going to I'm going to do the first annexation here. Okay. And read this and then we'll vote on it and then members will continue. Okay. Thanks so much. PL25-31 6846 Banning Road 5411 and 5411 Centerfield Road, 5790 Meadow Pond Court, 6784 Meadow View Drive, 3634, Oak Ridge Road, 3136, 3144, 3148, 3,200, 3203, 3204, 3209, 3215, 3219, 3221, and 3239. Pleasant Road, 7119, Rabbit Hollow Road, 6925 ZZ, 6955Z, and 7036 Somefield Road, 7211 and 7217 ZZ Wyatt Drive and a portion of the road R-W

right of way annexation. Commissioner Nichols, I second. Thank you, Mr. Nichols. Um, and now we will vote. We will take a vote. All those in favor, raise your hand and say, "I." I. I. All opposed. That passes 9 to0. Um, this constitutes a favorable recommendation and is subject to a public hearing at the Tuesday, September 16th, 2025 city council meeting. And the next one, Commissioner Peterson. Item PL25-326935 Somerville Road annexation. Second.

Thank you, Mr. Peterson and um Mr. Downing. Now we will take a vote. All those in favor signify by raising your hand and saying I. I. Anyone opposed? That passes 9 to zero. This constitutes a favorable recommendation is subject to a public hearing at the Tuesday, September 16th. 25 city council meeting. I move PLT 2533 3220 Pleasant Ridge Road annexation. Thank you, Mr. Connor and Mr. Peterson. We will take a vote. All those in favor signify by raising your hand and saying I.

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All those opposed that passes 9 to Z. This constitutes a favorable recommendation and is subject to a public hearing at the Tuesday, September 16th, 2025 city council meeting. Nichols, I move annexation of PLP 25-34 3668 3672 3674 3683 3685 3687 and 3727 Oakidge Road 5920 and 5930 Khaki Place 7630 Dau Road. all of Khaki Place right ofway and that's the subject of the annexation recommendation please second

thank you Mr. Nichols and Mr. Peterson. We will take a vote. All those in favor signify by raising your hand and saying I. I. All those opposed. That passes 9 to zero. This constitutes a favorable recommendation subject to a public hearing at the Tuesday, September 16th, 2025 city council meeting. Madam chair, this is War Downing. I move that we annex well Pop 25-35 7650 and 7652 Deau Road second.

Thank you Mr. Downing and Mr. Nichols. Now we will take a vote. All those in favor signify by raising your hand and saying I.

All is opposed. That passes 9 to zero. This constitutes a favorable recommendation and is subject to a public hearing at the Tuesday, September 16th, 2025 city council meeting. Now we need a zoning request. Thank you. Item Z250801. The Greensboro Planning and Zoning Commission believes that action to recommend approval of the original zoning request for the properties at Hold on. 6846 Banning Road, 5411 and 5411 ZZ Centerfield Road, 5790 Meadow Pond Court, 6784 Meadow View Drive, 3668, 3672, 3674, 3683, 3685, 3687, 3727, and 3634. Oak Ridge Road 3136 3144 3148 3200 3203 3204 3209 3215 3219 3220 3221 and 3239 Pleasant Ridge Road 7119 Robert Rabbit Hollow Road 6925 ZZ 69356955 CZ and 7036 Somerfield Road 7631 7650 7652 Dau Road 7211 7217 ZZ Wyatt Drive 5920 and 5930 Khaki Place all of Khaki Place right ofway all of Banning Road right ofway a portion of

Brick Brook Bank right ofway, a portion of Four Cedars Drive right ofway, portions of Pleasant Ridge Road right ofway, portions of Oakidge Road right ofway, and portions of Interstate 73 wide of way from county AG agricultural, county RS3 residential single family, county RS20 residential single family, county RS30 residential single family, county RS4 resial Single family county CZL conditional zoning limited office and CZGB general conditional zoning general business to city PUD planned unit development uh with the adopted Greensboro 2040 comprehensive plan and considers the action taken to be reasonable and in the public interest for the following reasons. The request is consistent with the comprehensive plans future built form map and future land use map. The proposed city PUB zoning district as conditioned permits uses that fit the context of the surrounding area and limits negative impacts on the adjacent properties and the request is reasonable due to the size, physical conditions and other attributes of the area. It will benefit the property owner and surrounding community and approval is in the public interest.

Commissioner G. Thank you, M Miss Gains. And it's a toss up between I'm gonna go with Mr. Okay. Okay. I kind of heard yours before. Okay. With that said, we are going to take a vote. All those in favor signify by raising your hand and saying I. I. I. Any opposed? That passes n to zero. Uh this constitutes a favorable recommendation and is subject to public hearing at the Tuesday, September 16th, 2025 city council meeting. And now we need a UDP.

This is Sandra O' Conor. I move approval of the unified development plan. Second. Thank you, Miss Okconor and Mr. Downing. Was it Downing? Okay. Thank you. Um, so now we will take a vote. All those in favor signify by raising your hand and saying, "I." I.

Any opposed? That passes 9 to zero. This this approval constitutes a final action unless an appeal is submitted in writing to the planning department and the appeal fee paid within 10 days. Anyone may file such appeal. All such appeals will be subject to a public hearing at the Tuesday, September 16th, 2025 city council meeting. All adjoining property owners will be notified of any such appeal. Welcome partially to Greensboro.

With that said, I think we have one more part to our agenda.

Is the commission okay about going forward? Everybody okay? Okay. Thank you. Thank you all for coming. went down there. I know. I can't believe they got it done. Those guys are out there working all evening nothing.

Thank you. told me to charge ahead. Okay. Would you please state your name and address?

Yes. Russ. I work in the manager longange division. This evening I'm here to give you all over South. Uh this is a study area that's pretty large. square miles between highways 220 and 421 on east and west and I4 and I5. It includes a wide range of land uses. You've got very established neighborhoods. You've got some multif family. You've got some older industrial, newer industrial highway business, a major commercial roads you would have in a small city. So we've been addressing a lot of issues in the area. Uh this plan will be used for community members, business owners, anybody advocating for the area, for the area neighborhoods. Um city staff will use that when we're looking at CIP budgeting, when we're looking at different plans and prioritizing those and also for decision makers. You all are looking at decisions and zoning changes. We've had quite a bit of community engagement in such a large area. always a challenge to figure out how to best get community engagement. And in this process, we divided things into a series of workshops that focused on different topics. And as the process went on, we sort of built the recommendations together and brought out the previous set of recommendations to get those viewed and reviewed. Um, we've also had an advisory committee that's met several times and helped us along with materials to refine items and ideas. We had a group of focus group interviews back before the uh before the holidays last year that went in depth on a few different items whether it's economy or arts, different range of topics. Um we do weekly office hours. We've had a lot of different meetings with different departments. people really give us great ideas from

transportation and parts of rack storm water on different things we can do to help improve the area different strategies and recommendations. So big picture um this plan really strikes a balance between the big picture vision that'll have a long range and a lot of different options to choose from and shorter term implementation steps. We want this to be an actionoriented plan as well as paint that big picture vision. Um we see a lot of different opportunities for investment in the area. If you look at the road, if you look at some of the other land out there, there's a lot of great opportunities for investment. Um certainly with Toyota and other economic development news we've had, we see that as being a big plus. Um we need to work on how people get around. There's a road network, but we need better bike facilities. We need better trail facilities. We need to connect the neighborhoods better. Um and in some instances there's some quality of life issues that come from some of the older obsolete hotels and businesses impact those on some of the neighborhoods. So uh I'll just kind of briefly touch on some of the things we're seeing in the different sections of the plan. Um, as I mentioned, we're talking broad goals, broad vision, but also fine-tuning and understanding where we want to go first because there's a lot from. So, prioritizing and understanding where we're headed in the next five years or so will be very important. Um, we looked a lot at the environment and parks and the open space. There's some very specific analysis and improvements we can look at, but we're also seeing the better use of the network and how we can tie trails together with parks and lessen the impact of high Some other negatives there. Um I mentioned transportation options. We see a lot of the crossax and better opportunities on random road to bring in more business and really help that area grow. And again with the greenway and bicycle connections connect the neighborhoods to those. We see a lot of local businesses in the area. We've had good local

restaurants at our meetings. Um we see a lot of things to celebrate. There's a really rich community and a lot of vibrancy in the area. Um In addition to improving the area's image, there's a lot of opportunities for more art, more sort of public art that um housing and economy. There's some great opportunities to add different types of housing. We see a lot of single family neighborhoods. We see a lot of apartments like we do with the rest of that. We know we got people moving to Greensboro. How do we add them in so that they add benefit to the surrounding neighborhoods? Um, we also see a lot of employment areas that are really strong. I was thinking some of the legacy industrial might be places that could turn over in the near future, but actually we see a lot of really high lease rates there and they're continust. drawings that really show how these items can play out in the different areas. It's a really different plan that we've done previously. It's very visual elements. It's a big plan. It's like 250 some pages, but a lot of that's because a lot of these visual elements that show how we can tie these networks together and how they can be developed on the ground. So, as you can see, you know, some of the detailed ideas we can do and transportation has been very Um, next steps. We will, we just had a meeting this past Saturday. We're continuing to add uh that input to our plan. Uh, we'll be sending those updated sections out to the departments for them to review. We'll have more information up online for people to look at. We're updating it now with the new information that we have. Um, we've got some short-term projects we're working on

now. We have a grant to do a crosswalk project on Elley Drive there. Walmart um transportation's working on some improvements on Vandelia Road. Um we really been focusing on some Randleman Road project since that plan got adopted last year. So continuing those improvements hopefully we'll be back here in September, maybe October details. We will make sure we send a plan out for you all to look at a lot. So I went through that way too fast. So love to answer any questions y'all have questions.

First, did any member of the commission go to one of these planning meetings? Was that was that a um none of us? Um Would it be possible to, you know, reach out to us and and figure out a time where we could see this public presentation? You know, the public has seen it, but but we haven't. And it would be really helpful, I think,

if we're going to vote on it to see it. This is the new and get our input from the commission. I would say as well we would be certainly we'll share the if you go to this website plans shortcut the website there's a good bit of information there we'll keep updating that as I said meetings that kind of thing we'll have the draft plan available but we can also meet with anybody want to do small groups we can walk through all the different pieces certainly

are you are you planning any particular public dates right now that will happen in terms well meetings we've wrapped up we had a series of five meetings in the area as well as some of the focus groups and things of that nature so we probably won't go back out to the public with a big happy with you all we will be going back out to neighbors things like that smaller groups kind of meet people where they are but that probably won't be a big but but you you might do neighborhood meetings Yes, we've been going to smaller neighborhood meetings like Yeah, we we would be we would really like to know the dates of those neighborhood meetings so that we could possibly attend.

Oh, there's no more. Well, we'll be going as we won't be hosting a meeting where we send out invitations to people, but we'll be going correct, right? Yeah. So, that I think that would be our only opportunity. So, if you could send that to Okay, I'll work with Mike and where we are. Yeah. And the next time you're doing a plan like this, if you're doing a northern plan as commissioners, we could attend any of these states and I'm sure

we'll make sure we keep yall in the loop. I think it's always a challenge. You know, you all have busy agendas. It's hard to get here, right? We'll make sure you know about Yeah. Because looking at 250 pages and not really understanding it is hard without a little dialogue. You know what what you just spoke was great and very helpful. So, thank you. Okay. Any other comments from

Yes. I I have a question. Could you give another example of converting the retail build? What type of housing? Well, we have been really studying especially with the road plan where we can look at most places not just a lot of places you see newer things being built the older retail kind of falls on hard times and it's hard to get new. So, we're starting to see um more mixed use development. We're starting to see more resial where retail used to be. We've been looking for a lot of examples. There's some good ones in Austin. There's more Charlotte area. Um you know, we do allow for instance in commercial medial. We're trying to encourage more resial helps to start to create that environment that can take advantage of transit and bring more vitality to the area without impromping and other big long-term plans GS4.

Sure. Thank you. So we anytime we've done a small area since the adoption of that would be east city or road we recommendations which come from the community and we c those in the big a department transportation uh to look at their plans, their overarching plans and relate their goals and strategies back to those as well. We try to make sure all those smaller pieces are tied back into the bigger goals that we have.

Thank you very much. Really great. Thank you so much. So, we're closing this meeting now. And I just want to say thank you to the staff. Really, thank you. Thank you very much. We can't thank you enough. That was just terrific. Um, and I just want to thank the commissioners. Really good job. Okay. So,

and then the last question was how many cases next month? Right. Only six right now. That's actually what it is. [Music]