Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

Okay, I'd like to call the May 11th, 2026 Peach Tree City Planning Commission meeting to order. Um, for everyone who's present who are citizens of the United States would please join me in pledging allegiance to the flag of our country. I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Great. I'd like to welcome everyone uh both in person and online this evening. Um go ahead. Go to staff. Do we have any announcements this evening? No, sir. Not at this time.

Okay. No presentations? No, sir. Um, agenda changes. So, I know we did have an old agenda item that was postponed. Yes, sir. Um, do we have anything else from a change this evening? No, nothing else other than that. Okay. Um, do we have an expectation when that will be brought back up?

Yes, sir. So, um, I'll give a little insight. Um, the reason it's postponed is that, um, you've asked some great questions about the brightness, the colors, details that we feel need to have um some I guess information from um I don't want to say from experience but there's a number of signs in the city that currently have the usage. Um we found a company that is in the city that has the lights that the city's very pleased with how that looks. So we're we've reached out to them to partner to uh understand what was the temperature of lighting color etc. And they are providing that to us. So, we wanted to use examples, exact exact examples um when we bring it back to you. In addition, I believe it was requested that um the city engineers are involved and so we'll be working with them. We weren't able to work with them last week, but we'll be working with um our engineering group on next week to get that resolved. So, we're looking I think we said June 8th was the date since the May 25th date was cancelled or rescheduled. We'll be working with the June 8th date.

Okay. Thank you, sir. Thank you, Commissioner. Okay. Um minutes. So, the minutes from the April 27th, 2026 Planning Commission. Um I was not available for that. I was going to thank and I still will Commissioner Chris for uh for taking the gavl and running that meeting for uh for me. I I truly appreciate that. Um, so hopefully everyone's had an opportunity to take a look at the minutes. Um, do we have a motion to approve the minutes as submitted? I'll make a motion to approve the minutes of the April 27th, 2026 meeting.

Okay. So, we have a motion to approve. Do I have a second? Okay. Motion to approve and a second. Um, do we have any comments? Anything? No. Okay. Uh therefore uh all those in favor of approving the April 20 April 27th, 2026 planning commission minutes as submitted signify by saying I. I I.

Minutes approved as submitted. And I need to keep my piece of paper off the screen. Sorry about that. I do that every time. Not enough room. Okay. Uh we already talked about the old agenda item being postponed. Uh looking to be on the June 8th. Um, so new agenda items. Uh, the first one is the building elevation modifications Brillin Village Shopping Center, Cross Town Drive. And I'm going to turn that over to staff.

Okay. So, um, you're probably familiar with Are You sure this thing is on? All right. Uh, is located on Cross Town Drive as you can see. Uh, it has two different zonings. Actually, the underlying zoning district is GC and then a portion of the shopping center has a um has a zoning condition. It's a special use permit for the Kroger expansion in 2013. Uh so, moving right along. So, um Kimco Realy, the um shopping center management uh would like to do a major upgrade to bring the uh the property into, you know, with some more modern look. um the existing buildings as you can see on these. So these are two different groups of before and after pictures. On the right hand side is the um current look and then on the left is what they're proposing. Uh section 725 of the land development ordinance establishes goals for architectural design that include high quality design, architectural innovation and compatibility with surrounding development. Uh the proposal here includes uh painting the existing ephus which is everything um above the brick. The brick will remain the same. Uh they're updating the colors uh to a new some neutral colors. uh updating the cornice details uh around the top. You can see the difference here with this uh new clean black uh finish versus, you know, these more ornate dentals and whatnot that they had previously, which is a little bit outdated. Um and then introducing a faux wood accent. I don't know. Let's see. Let's try the next page because I don't think I see them on here.

Here we go. I was going to say yes, these right in this area here. Thank you. And and that faux wood is a made of metal. Uh and they propose to create a more modern appearance with that. Again, brick and the storefronts will remain the same. And just a note, signage will be reviewed uh by the planning department during the sign permitting process. Uh there is no proposed change to the amount of primary materials that would be brick or stone uh being provided. And here are those materials. These are the materials that remain the same. The brick and the new proposal. Uh this color here is the overall base color. Actually, it'll it'll vary between these two. There's a slight difference. And then here's that uh wood look metal and the dark black for the trim colors. Again, a few more pictures and then I did want to show you some of the surrounding development that is similar in color some of them and sort of style. So, this is the I should have labeled these. I apologize. This is the Goddard School, which is sort of next door. Uh, this is the Elliott's building. Now, I'm sorry, I forget what this is, but anyway, another nearby building. Um, very earthy, neutral colors uh blending with with the natural surroundings. The uh the paint color uh pure white uh is described by Sherman wi Sherwin Williams as a a bright white with a yellow undertone that makes it just a little bit warmer. Uh useful gray was that second color that will alternate with the white as a warm stone gray. Uh

they described as having an earthy tone. Then of course the black and the wood accents is called fawn. And that's all I have for you. Great. Thank you. Is the applicant or applicant representative here this evening like to uh step up to the microphone and uh give your name and who you represent? Sure. Good evening. Charles Kilibru with Onyx Creative. We're the architects here with Heather McMillan from Kimco. Great. Um do either of you have anything to add to staff's presentation? No, thank you. That was a very good summary of the intent. Okay,

great. Okay, so we're going to start with questions of staff for the applicant. I'm going to go ahead and start with uh Commissioner Gant to my right. I have no questions. The only comment is I think it looks looks really good. Thank you, Commissioner Allen. Any questions? Commissioner Hammer.

I think it overall looks really good. I know in the past though we've talked a lot about the color white in terms of you know we are seeing a trend more within Peach City where and you know there's been updates to buildings like this that white seems to be a predominant color that's being used uh on this. We've seen this in West Park Walk. We've seen this in the Governor Square area of Petri City as well. I will say though that this looks overall really good uh in in the way that it looks and I like the addition of the the faux wood as well. It didn't really come up in the pictures, but I can I can still see it uh in terms of what you guys are trying to accomplish with it uh in that. So, that'd be my only real comment. Again, overall, I think this looks this looks good, but Scott, you may want to build on your your your the white comment as well a little bit because you typically do.

Thank you. Commissioner Halverson,

I know I know what Scott's gonna say. Um, whites are hard. Um, we all know because there's a billion whites. Um, bright whites are challenging to keep clean and things like that. Um, I appreciate the warm tone. So, um, as you're landing on it, you might consider something maybe a little more warmer than than the bright white, but that's up to the ownership group. Um, my typical otherwise, it looks great. So, I appreciate the context. Um, these guys are going to laugh because my typical comments have to do with things that you didn't talk about, which is the lighting. um because I'm very sensitive to how we're going to illuminate this at night, how we're going to kind of identify entrances and things like that. So, take that into consideration when you're thinking about it. Um that's one of my sensitive points, but other than that, I think it's a nice improvement and it's it's going to tie together the whole complex with the other um buildings which you've identified. So,

good. Yeah, I I think and Commissioner Hamner kind of mentioned um you know, it seems like we have gone and maybe that's just where where the industry is going more towards the the whites. Um I'm in the airline industry and and quite a number of years ago, a lot of the airlines both well pretty much worldwide went to something that everyone kind of deemed as Euro white. Um everyone decided they were going to paint their planes white because it looked all brand new and shiny and and things like that. and it really took away some of the creativity of of what some of the liveries used to be. Um, and we're slowly moving back away from that again, which is which is not a bad thing. Um, but as Commissioner Halverson said, um, you know, we we there's not a problem with with white. It's just we we really try to look to make sure that it's not bright, glaring kind of white. Um, I think we had another, it was a restaurant, um, that they went in and they wanted to go ahead and and paint white, and it was white. Um, and we asked them to go and and take a look and see if they could tone that down, give it a little bit more of a a creamy type of of white. And I think they went a little bit more with with a gray. Um, not a gray, but it has a more of a a grayish white kind of tinge to it. Um, as compared to just a bright white. So, um, yeah, I I agree. Um, you know, it looks nice. It looks clean um to start, but we know how things get dirty over time and, uh, no one's fault at that. It's just it's just the way it is. Um, so just I I guess, you know, take a look and and see if if there's if that's the direction you really want to go or if there's an opportunity to kind of bring that creaminess back in just a little bit more. Um, the other colors are are fine. In fact, I I have useful gray and tricorn black in in my house.

Um, so I'm very familiar with with those two myself. Um, but uh, no, I I don't really have any questions. Those are kind of my comments. Overall, it looks really good. Um, it's nice to see, and we've talked about it quite a bit. Um, you know, with with Peach Tree City not having available properties in in open land to go ahead and build new, it it's really what what I've been looking at as a revitalization um of existing buildings, whether um you know, we see what we used to all call the blue roofs um that really aren't quite that way much much longer or or they haven't been. So, uh, um, that's been a big project for that small shopping center and and it's it's amazing how much of a dramatic change that that's taken on. It looks like it literally is a brand new um, you know, property. Um, so it's nice to see this happening across the city and I expect that we'll continue to see this as as we go forward. So, thank you for for doing some updates and I know you've you've been doing updates to to Brillin. I'm I'm over there actually quite a bit. Um, so it's nice to see the continued investment in the property. Um, you know, to make it even look even nicer than than what it's at.

So, very much. Sure. Okay. So, I've taken some some comments. Uh, any other comments, Commissioner Commissioner Gant? Anything else? Just Just one. U you know when I look at num rendering number 10 up there it does look like you have are using a different tint um kind of alternating between one color and another on the front there. That's the gray and the white. Yes. Is that right? Yeah, that's true. Yeah. The the these renderings being as small and a little bit blown out by the projectors, you're missing that modulation back and forth.

Yeah. So the the the whites tend to be more at the store entrances uh so that it's a neutral field for whatever signage is going on uh there. And then the the tonal variations are happening in between. Y so it's not all just white across the front. Y is a good example. I think it looks good. Thank you. Thank you. Commissioner Allen, any any comments? No, I think it looks great. Commissioner Hverson, anything else? Good. No. Um, Commissioner Hamner, no, nothing else.

And and I guess there there was one thing then and I guess you know really didn't go any further with it, the the lighting as as you mentioned. Um, now now that I kind of think about it, uh, are you going to be changing out any of the lighting or is it pretty much staying as to what it is with kind of the I wouldn't say goose necks, but kind of the overarching. Yeah, so the the gooseenecks do give it a bit of that dated feel. So those are those are part of the renovation. We're also looking at a few other select uh lighting upgrades just continuing to move toward LED fixtures and improve energy efficiency.

Okay, Mr. Halverson, do you have any comments to that? Yeah. Good. Okay, great. Okay. Um, thank you. So, do we have a motion from the dis on the building elevations? Sure. Yeah, I'd like to make a motion that we accept the building eleation modifications to Brilland Village Shopping Center on Cross Town Drive as is. They look great. Okay. So, we have a motion to approve the building elevation modifications to Brain Village. Do we have a second?

Second. Okay. So, we have a motion to approve and a second. Any other discussion? No. Okay. So, all those in favor of approving the building elevation modifications Brilland Village Shopping Center Cross Town Drive signify by saying I I. Okay. The building elevation modifications for Brilland Village Shopping Center approved as submitted. Great. Thank you. Thank you very much.

Okay, continuing right along. We have another uh revitalization and that uh is the building elevation modifications uh for the NCR building 200 highway 74 South and turn it back over to staff. So this one will look familiar to you because they have uh already brought uh some similar changes to you for a different part of the building and now they are uh continuing uh that and we still call it the NCR building because that's what we know it but there is a new uh occupant there. Um I don't know their name but anyway that's formerly NCR and you'll see here the uh they they actually have two separate parcels that their building is on. Uh all the proposed changes are are focused on uh this parcel right here and they're zone GI general industrial. Just for reference, previously you all looked at this side of the building and now we've come around the corner and we're working on this side, the east side that faces Highway 74. We can circle back to this, but this is the again, it's the same material palette that they used before. Uh they're going to have some again some uh faux wood look. And again, uh this is by Jefferson Brown, by the way. And you know, they like this uh Nichiha product. We've got metal panels. Uh we've got some stone. And then of course another color of metal panels. These are the existing panels and they'll be painted. So continuing on, uh these are some before pictures. Again, we're focusing on this view right here, which is all existing stucco.

And then here are some photos of the new look that again, this is probably looking familiar to you. Uh it again meeting the land development ordinance uh goals for architectural design, high quality, innovation, compatibility with surrounding development, natural environment. Uh it's very earthy with the colors they've chosen. They will be doing new storefront windows, painting existing metal panels. The existing building does not contain any primary materials such as brick or stone. Uh the proposed upgrades introduce the fiber cement sighting which we usually consider similar uh to a primary material because it's longlasting and it's low maintenance. Uh so there again not proposing primary materials and just to reiterate this side facing 74 will contain about 3200 square ft of new fiber cement siding uh which is approximately 31% of the facade. Again we don't count glass in that calculation. Uh the other side that we've looked at previously, the north facade facing Pascal Road, which again previously approved, uh also contains about 3,200 square feet of new fiber cement sighting and it will be approximately 36% of the facade. And then the rear of the building uh will remain 100% metal panels. There's a few more shots of the proposed architecture. And that completes the presentation.

Okay, great. Thank you. The applicant is I was just going to ask but the the applicant or applicants representative apparently are not here this evening. Um bit disappointed because it's always good to have either either Jefferson or or representative from Jefferson Brown uh here to go over their their designs. Um gonna go ahead and and start with with questions again. Commissioner Hamner, any questions to staff that they might be able to answer? Maybe in a moment. Sorry, just come back to me in a sec. Sure, not a problem. Commissioner Halverson.

No, I mean what they're doing is they're continuing the aesthetic from what they did in phase one. So, um you know, they articulated their responses to my questions last time. um which satisfied my curiosity on why it's so dark. Um so they're continuing that which is fine at least is consistent. Um again I go back to my comments on the lighting elements which I would love to see somebody at some point actually think about that and present it to us as a thought stream and intentionality but I can only ask. Um, other than that, um, it's it's an industrial building and it's, you know, I think it's an upgrade from what it currently is and that's all we can hope for in Petri City is things just to get better. Um, I think the painted signage on buildings in that lower lefthand corner 500 to 400 might be reconsidered, but if that's a signage thing, um, that's not part of our purview. That would be my only comment that I'd prefer not to have it painted on the building. Other than that, I think it's fine.

And and I guess a question to to staff. So, when we're doing the building elevations, as you're all going through through kind of the checklist of of items and and I apologize because I I can't remember, is there any item on on kind of the quoteunquote checklist that goes over any details on on lighting like that? Because we do see some lighting on on some

elevations and we don't see lighting on on others. not not a requirement, but if they are proposing lighting, uh they have to submit a separate plan to staff for review and that is mainly to make sure that I mean there's requirements for maximum levels of you know lighting. They're supposed to provide a um what do you call a phototric site plan so we can see the levels of lighting at the sidewalks in the parking area at the edge of the property that kind of thing.

And I guess question to the commissioners, you know, I mean, is that, you know, there's not a requirement for us to see that, but is that something that just as you're saying? I I would like to to see that to be honest. Um, I know we've seen that on some building elevations. Um, you know, there's been some where it's been a concern because of the location of the property. um possibly with residential in in the area trying to you know limit or or reduce you know the amount of uh excess lighting let's say um or or uh

but is that something we could we could take a look at to in there? I could start um remembering to ask them, okay, whether they will be doing lighting upgrades and if so, let them know the commissioners would like to see that as part of their submission because I I would I would expect um whether it's the the shopping center or or whether it's something like this, if they're doing this amount of work. Um most likely they're probably going to be updating or upgrading the lighting. Correct. So, it's probably something good as we go forward, especially with, you know, again, looking at existing properties that that will be updated. Um, it's probably something good to go ahead and and ask for if

we we usually sometimes we catch that later when they do building permits, right? Okay. I appreciate that. Okay, Commissioner Allen, any any questions? Yeah, for staff, this is just a continuation of the same thing that we approved already, right? That's correct. So I guess one question is why didn't they submit it all at once and the second question is is it really a requirement to revisit it when it's the same? I can probably answer that question. Okay, go ahead.

Uh has to do with scope. So ultimately they review they requested review and approval of one side of the building and what they're asking for now is additional scope of a different side of the building which increases the breadth of the entire impact of the design. Yes, it's a continuation of the same design intent which is good. Um but theoretically they could have submitted something completely different for the other side of the building. Well, I can see that if they did, but but ultimately for I'm assuming for making sure everything was done properly, they're saying, "Okay, we're submitting now the other side of the building, which is an extended scope. The reason why they didn't submit it last time because they weren't asked to design it at that point."

Well, let me add to that. So, there are more more than one tenant in the building. So, that's one thing. Um, I'm not certain if if they were waiting for the the other tenants to confirm that their design components as well, but I just know that there's more one tenant in this building. So that could be, you know, you're waiting until the tenant sign on to agree and things of that nature. So it just depends. Okay, that makes sense. Thank you. Yep. Thank you. No other questions. Commissioner Gant, any questions?

Just just a comment. I agree with Commissioner Harson. This is just a continuation of of what they presented in phase one. But I do have a question and maybe it's just a comment that you could send back to them. I know that at some point as they fill these different blocks up with tenants, they're probably going to have signage for individual tenants as well. So, I'd be interested in knowing what the plan is, the signage plan is overall uh for uh this property.

We usually prefer they don't show signage so that you're not misled because what they might stick on the building might not be permitted. And so when they come for signage permits, that's where we're going to scrutinize based on the codes what they're allowed to do and what they're not allowed to do. But, you know, for the purpose of this type of review, they might put, you know, what their ideal wishes are on there, which may not be allowed, or just something that makes the picture look good.

Yeah. Well, I was I was just thinking that we we we would like to see some at least I would like to see some uniformity in terms of signage. Um and and you don't know what you're going to get like you said. Well, unfortunately, we can't control that with um various tenants who might have their own uh branding branding corporate signage. Corporate signage. So, and we've we've actually seen where if it's included here in your decision, they're under the impression it's been approved. So, when the sign applications are coming through, they're like, well, it's already been approved. Exactly.

And it hasn't, right? So, we've, as Laura is saying, ask, you know, has a separate process and have a separate, you know, viewing. So, what we asking them not to place it here for a reason. Understand. Thank you. Yeah. And that kind of goes back to what Commissioner Hersonson said about the kind of the arrow signage on the side of the building. You know, that's a a depiction of of something, but it very well may not be that way. So, we're not really sure exactly what it's going to look like until it's actually submitted. So, okay. Okay. Anything else, commissioners? Yes, Commissioner. Sorry, I apologize. I am coming back to you. Thank you for reminding me. Yes, Commissioner Hammer. It's

fine. Sorry. I wanted to think this through a little bit as well. Um so I don't believe I was in in uh the November meeting where the one side was being discussed. So sorry I was just trying to catch up a little bit uh on that and also get a deeper understanding of the recommendation for approval which again goes back to November as well on this. So in the recommendation memo it does state that the proposal is quote significantly less than 80% for the front and 50% for the side facads. it's required by the ordinance uh which I think is section 725 uh on that and still being recommended for approval on this uh uh still being recommended for approval ultimately on this. Uh so my question is for staff there's a fiber cement that I believe is kind of being treated as like a primary material on this. Uh but I believe that and correct me if I'm wrong on this. Sorry, I'm getting in the weeds on this. Primary material typically is considered like a brick or a stone. Uh even though the ordinance doesn't necessarily uh like classify it specifically that way. So I guess ultimately a question is like how do making this recommendation, how are you interpreting fiber cement under section 725 and the primary materials definition around that? So there's not really a definition for primary materials and it just eludes to brick and stone and of course this goes I believe the architectural guidelines go back to 2008 when I don't think the fiber cement was I don't know if it was in existence but if it was it wasn't as popular I guess and so it's just come to be um accepted as more of a primary material due to its qualities.

Okay. um you know low maintenance, long lasting, similar to brick and stone. Um it's obviously not a natural product, but we we have been accepting it for several years now. Okay, got it. I think that answers my question, but you know, regarding the definition, you know. Yeah. And and I agree with with staff. I know we've been and it's not a substitute but it it's been placed in in that same group as you know brick stone you know sort of of you know those those primary materials even though it's not probably called out. So

sure that that may be something that we take a look at as we go forward. I don't know if that'd be part of there should be a group that looks into possibly this definition at some point. I don't know if that's part of that uh other thing that we have. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, add it. Add it to the list. Add it to the list. All right. Thank you. But it is it is a good opportunity to take a look because we have seen this quite a bit um you know as as staff said over the past few years and we have been applying that as as primary material um kind of at the discretion of of the planning commission. Um so it's probably something that needs to be firmed up. Sounds good.

Good. Okay. Any other questions? comments? No. Okay. So, do we have a motion? Someone hit the dice. Yes. I make a motion that we accept the building elevation modifications to what is currently referred to as the NCR building at 200 Highway 74 South as presented. Okay. So, we have a motion to approve the building elevation modifications for the NCR building. Do we have a second? Second. So, we have a motion to approve and a second. All those in favor of approving the building elevation modifications NCR building 200 Highway 74 South signify by saying I. I. I.

Okay. The building elevation modifications NCR building 200 Highway 74 South approved as submitted. Great.

Okay. Our final new agenda item for this evening is the landscape plan white oak dental 500 Stevens entry. And back over to staff. All right. Uh the engineer for this project of course um submitted a landscape plan for this new dental office. Uh it is located on the rear parcel along uh 500 Stevens Entry zoned LUC25 limited use commercial. And if you're curious, the it was reszoned when they divided the property in order to u remove the setback requirements at the new at the new property line. So the setbacks apply to the parcel as a whole, front, side, rear, side. Okay, this is a much smaller project than we're used to looking at. Um the parking area was existing uh and was being used by the former building. So there was already some landscaping in place. This area was already uh impervious area accounted for. So the new imperous area for the construction of the building and some slight modifications to the parking area uh is 5,15 square feet. The landscape ordinance thus requires a minimum of only 15 caliber inches of canopy trees and 10 caliber inches of understory trees. U the proposal is for 18 canopy inches which is six trees and 12 understory inches also six trees and this amount exceeds uh the requirement. So no they are not requesting any alternative compliance method. I did want to point out uh they have this very large area of tree save area on the

property that they uh they did not touch. It's about 13,400 square ft. Uh in addition to the uh tree requirements uh plantings are required to be located on front and the sides of all retail, commercial and industrial buildings wherever practical. They do have quite a bit of uh shrubs along the side, even wrapping around the back. And of course, shrubs to screen their uh HVAC units. Also, although the perimeter of this parking lot is not really seen from the road and then there's this large tree buffer, basically they have included these are existing shrubs. They have continued this concept around the corner with alternating evergreen shrubs. Finally, all parking islands should be fully landscaped uh with canopy trees, understory trees, evergreen shrubs, and or ground cover in mulched beds. They are proposing in their islands willow oaks, inkberry, holly, and ground cover in in the parking islands. Sorry, I was looking for Oh, here we go. Um, of the total number of plant species proposed, 58% are native to the eastern United States andor the southeastern United States. Now, one thing that confused me, and I didn't get a chance for them to clarify, they're listing their own substitutes here. I don't know if that confused you all as well. Um, but the percentage I just gave you is based on the plants on this side of the plant schedule and not these substitutions that they're

mentioning. I guess that means they're willing to substitute if you all desire. And the applicant is not here to speak on behalf that statement. So understand and I do have to say I think this may be the first that we've actually seen a landscape plan that actually designated possible substitutions. So that's a if that's the case that's a big step in the right direction. Fantastic. Yes.

Well, I'm going to go ahead and start with uh Commissioner Hamner. Any any questions? Um, my only question is for the AC unit and the shrubs that are around it. Do we feel like those shrubs would be enough in order to block the view considering it's and apologies I I don't I was just trying to look up the map to see if there was another business or anything else right behind it that would have a view of those of those AC units. Uh, but do we think that if there are businesses or anything else like that that that would be enough in order to maybe shield the AC units? Unfortunately, I didn't uh print this, but they're they're required, and I can't remember the height. They're required to be a certain height. Okay.

And I can't recall what that is off the top of my head, nor can I actually read that. Sure. I will say this. I mean, obviously, they're already addressing trying to shield it with the shrubs that are right there, which is great. Um, and I'm glad they did that. I was just curious if that was maybe enough, especially if there was another parcel that was right next to it that potentially could see it. Not a requirement, but still. Yeah. Well, no, it it actually is a requirement to screen. Okay. Screen things like that. Whereas, if they're rooftop units, you know, on a larger industrial building, they're required to have some screening on the rooftop around the not plants, of course, but

Got it. Thank you for the correction. Uh, but I guess again, do we feel like that's enough in order for the screening? I mean, I I do. Okay, those are my questions. Great. Commissioner Hson, any questions? No questions. Commissioner Allen, any questions? No questions. Come back for com. Uh, Commissioner Gant, no questions. Okay, we'll stay with you. Any comments? No comments. Okay, Commissioner Allen, I would like to see them use a couple of the substitutes to get up into an approved appreciated percentage. I'd like them to address that. Try to get some more native planting.

So, I would suggest that you all be very specific and I imagine I'll let him do Commissioner Hamner will make those comments. Commissioner Halverson comments. Yeah, my recommendation would be that um if they're offering a native substitution to we accept all native substitutions and go from there and and I was basically going to to say something very similar. So, thank you for for doing that. Um and with that, I'll go ahead and uh Commissioner Hamner comments.

First of all, thank you to the fellow commissioners for stealing all my thunder uh on this, but I do sincerely appreciate it. Also, I just want to call out the tree save area. That's fantastic in terms of, you know, that's highlighted right there. So, kudos for that as well. Overall, I think this looks good. Uh, with the inclusion of everything that was said about Native before I got the chance to say it. Absolutely. You ask about the AC units. Just looking at the aerial view, doesn't look like there's anybody behind it. Okay. I didn't think there was I was trying to remember the the look of that.

Yeah. And I think those those anise they do get pretty I have a few planted. They'll get pretty good size after a while. So on there so hopefully it should be enough. Um, so do we need to go ahead and and since we're make a recommendation to utilize these substitutions? Somebody would like to go ahead and uh make a motion with that recommendation. I move uh that we accept the landscape plan for White Oak Dental of 500 Stevens entry under the condition uh that they move forward with the substitutions for native.

Okay. So, we have a recommendation or we have a uh motion to approve the landscape plan with the um implementation of native species. Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead. Well, I don't disagree, but we did just go through months and months of coming up with a a number. Sure. Sure. Should we not word that slightly to say at least at least 60% but recommended? But recommended. Yes. With with uh the native uh alternatives. Okay. You want to go ahead and restate that? I will do that again. Appreciate it. Thanks.

So, uh move forward to I I propose that we move forward with the uh landscape plan for the White Oak Dental at 500 Stevens Entry uh with 60 at least 60% native but recommend doing all native plant alternatives. Second.

Okay. So, we have a motion to approve the landscape plan for White Oak Dentl um with the condition that a minimum of 60% of native be achieved. Um but a recommendation for I want to say 100% but as as much as possible um of of the remainder of of native species where they're not identified. And we have a second to that. Um any other discussion? No. Okay. All those in favor of approving the landscape plan with the condition and recommendation for White Oak Dentl 500 Stevens entry signify by saying I. I.

Okay. The landscape plan for White Oak Dentl 500 Stevens Entry is approved with the condition and recommendations on the native species. Thank you, commissioners. Okay. Um, back over to staff. So, we have member staff topics. I know we have our next meeting coming up. The May 25th is cancelled. Um, so the June 8th will be our next um and we don't have a UDO at this time. Not at this time. Uh, real quick, I know that I will not be able to attend the June 8th. Right. So, that's one of the topics that I have. I wanted to discuss who's available for June 8th because we're aware that there are a few that won't be available. So, I will not be here.

You won't be here. Right. So we needed to know is there a quorum present you will be okay I'll be present be available commissioner Hson we at least have three I'll be here so we'll just have to verify with commissioner Chris then of his availability since he's not here this evening okay I have a few more items absolutely

awesome so um before um my departure. I was sending out emails about training. I know a lot of you have given responses. Um I believe we've started to attend the trainings. Um originally we were thinking that maybe the newer commissioners could attend, but there's funding available for even um more of our seasoned um commissioners to attend. So I would ask that you all take another look at the calendar to see what days you are available. U we would love to see if you could possibly attend the training sessions. Again, we we've shared that they're very um informative and give good insight on what we do here. So, if you could just take another look at the email and give a date and then we'll confirm it and schedule it for you. Could Could I ask you resend the date?

Of course. I was just going to ask the same. I'll resend it. Yeah. I know. I would like to do 102 since I've already done 101. So, Oh, yay. Look at that. Awesome. It's a cool book. It is a cool book. And and I think and I think Commissioner Halverson said there were quite a few from from Faget County there. Good numbers the whole table from Faget County. What what was it their planning commission or their their staff? Yeah, they had a little bit of everything there. They had probably four or five folks. We should make it a a field trip. I'm joking. A lot of different groups did. They had full tables of of groups from their city. I like that.

Um and it was interesting some of the commentary between tables. Okay. Um, which the instructor quickly took care of, but um, there were some interesting conversations happening. But they were F County was very interested to see someone from Petri City in the room, so they came over and said hello. And that's awesome. Yeah, it was great. Okay. Well, great. I'll I'll send that again um between now and in the morning so that you all can have that top of your emails. Perfect. Appreciate it. Thank you.

Awesome. And so we are excited that we've selected a UDO consultant, right? Yay. Um, city council has agreed um to contract with Inspire. Um they are a group that um we believe will be great. Um I think um Commissioner Heer, you have had a chance to meet with them. Yes. And they were great.

Awesome. Okay. And we shared with council that our steering committee uh chairperson gave us the blessing as well to move forward with them. they are really big on public involvement and so you sometimes typically don't see public involvement when it comes to a UDO sometimes um not as much as you would see with a comprehensive plan kind of feel you know you'll see it but it's not as as strong but they want to be very much involved with the public when it comes to the UDO asking the public what you want to see when it comes to processes and ordinances and things of that nature so we're really excited um the contract is under review for um our legal And then once that is confirmed and finalized and signatures have um transpired, we'll move forward with starting the um uh work with them. So we'll just meet with them to go over the contract just to make sure they understand the process and procedure and then we'll invite them to a night meeting so they can meet you all and you can ask all the questions that you want so that you can become familiar with this project um as as the steering committee and lead the way, you know, telling us what you would like to see. um within this file and we'll step in and assist where needed.

That's excellent. I was going to say that that's great news. I mean, that was the the big kind of stage of of getting to that point of of having the the consultant now chosen. Um and and I hate to say it this way, but but the real work now begins soon. It's true. Yeah. Not saying that the work that's all been done up to this point hasn't been real work, but now it it really y really starts up

as we get ramped up. Again, you know, obviously continue to keep us informed on these things, but as you do that, again, we do have that portal that's still available to us through Microsoft. If anybody needs tech help, let me know in terms of getting access to it. give me a call and I will uh help you guys get uh on that because again we need we need to make sure that uh you know all communication comes through that all files are are stored uh within that Microsoft uh team as well. Um but I'm really excited to be moving forward with this as uh was said a moment ago the real work is about to begin on this. It's been a long time coming and very excited to really get moving.

Yeah, I think we are too. I can tell you we're we're we're anxious to to find ourselves in a more um um how do I say it? Oh, more of a legal kind ease. Um there's a lot of time we're questioning language and just trying to figure that out. So, we're really glad to see that we're here and excited to see how we can move forward with it. So,

and and I just like to pass on my my sincere thank you to to staff and everyone involved to the chairman of the UDO for for being so involved in that. Um, you know, it it's not easy to to go ahead and and choose those um to go forward, especially with with the major projects such as this, but I'm so glad that we're we're there now. So, that's good. So, thanks.

Okay. And then um so there's another component comp I guess comprised of the UDO. So since we're um getting close to getting this project started, one of the things that you kind of touched on a bit, Commissioner, um you mentioned or you're asking questions about lighting and signs and different things like that. So the UDO will give us an opportunity to look at codes and then I think it'll also give us an opportunity to look at processes, right? And so as processes are starting to be figured out a little bit more, we're going to have more checklists, then we'll have more of revisions of applications. So I would say as a steering committee um to help us kind of look at our our processes in close lens, if you can also kind of identify when it comes before you, what are you seeing that we're missing, that will really really help us as applications are coming your way. Uh, one of the things that you mentioned were penalties when things have kind of bypassed and gone in different directions than coming to see you. That would be a great example of what I'm mentioning. What are you seeing that you would like to see as a board um outside of the steering committee, but as a board, what would you like to see um the UDO do for you all as well? So, just kind of opening that up. We're looking at our processes, but our processes are your processes. So, whatever you're you're seeing that we need to revise in our things, let us know in that.

Absolutely. and and I've actually been going through a a process um currently and uh I've been taking some notes as as I've been kind of transversing this process and uh I I think there's some opportunity for for improvement um in in certain areas of it just to make it it easier on on the residents as as well as staff as well as contractors. So I I I agree 100%. I think there's some opportunities out there to to make things better. Perfect. So perfect. That's great. Okay.

And if I can also speak on on behalf of our um minutes um if you all can speak more directly into the mic in the middle of the meetings, it helps her with the opportunity to take such minutes. So if you can just speak a little closer to the mics when you're speaking. Okay, that's all I have. Chair can do. Great. Thank you. Okay. Commissioners, anything else this evening? No. Staff, anything else? Nothing. Okay. So with that, do we have a motion to adjurnn? We adjourn. Okay. Motion to adjurnn and second. All those in favor of adjourning signify by saying I. I