City Council - Regular Meeting

All right. Welcome, everybody, to the Fairbanks City Council work session, May 19th, 2026. For our work session, we just have one item on the agenda today. We have the TVFNR annual update. So I think I'm, they told me I'm going to kick it over to you, Stephen. Oh, come back. Larry, do you want to introduce us? Just cut me out. So we'll start with introductions. I'm Stephen Myers. Welcome to Fairbanks City Council. I'm Stephen Myers. been under the district as well.

I'm Laura Hitt. I'm our Deputy Chief of Administration. So I oversee our analytics department, our logistics and organizational health, and I've been here for 24 years.

Patrick Fale, Deputy Chief of Strategic Services, and I've been here for 28 years.

Thank you guys for coming. This is kind of a different venue than you're used to, but we just find that having a conversation around the table is more productive than all of us sitting at the dais and That's just too formal. We want to have a conversation, so we hope you don't mind.

We don't normally do this, but this is great. We appreciate this very much. Great.

We'll go through slides, but if there's questions that are in between, please stop us and ask questions or comments. Please feel the need to wait until the end. Awesome. All right, this is going to be our agenda for this evening. Our incident snapshot, we're going to talk about wild land, because with fire department presentation about wild land season, our EMS landscape, we are working on some bond and capital projects. We want to give you an update about that, as well as our struggle program. So this is what we call one of our city incident snapshots. And so this is for the year ending last year, 2025. And so as you can see, there are 1800 incidents in Sherwood. Use the mouse here. Yeah, great. So this is the annual volume. So we're looking at 21 to 2025. So you can understand kind of The trends that are occurring here in the city of Sherwood, relatively stable. There's nothing there, any spikes. There's no spikes or dips in there. We noticed that through other areas in our district as well as our overall call volume is somewhat stabilizing over the last couple of years now that we're past COVID and some of the disruption that that caused for our incident volume. This is our, oh, we can't say it because we got this little guy. Remove this. This is our incident density map.

You can hit the little minus button there.

It's going to be smaller. Okay.

Absolutely. Thank you.

Station 35, 12.

Station 35 is King City. Oh, King City. Yeah, that makes sense. And so, yeah, so this is the geographic density of this five years worth of incident. So you can kind of just have an idea of how that density lays within the city. When you look at, so the red would be where you're seeing a higher level of incident density, the blue being cooler, and then the white, nothing occurring within that area. The red tends to hover around the care facilities, medical facilities. So that's Highway 99. Can't really see it through here, but Highway 99 right through here. And then Station 33 here. And this is the distribution. So, you know, some of the benefits of being part of a district, right, is all these other stations here to help. And I bring that up for... incidents up here. This is the types of incidents that occur within the district or within the city. So this is how we're dispatched. And then this is what we find when we get there. So for example, we're dispatched about 1500 medical calls last year. And then when we arrived, we wrote about 1200 1300 EMF incidents. It was always a difference between the caller calling 911 and what they think is happening. and then we show up and then validate what is occurring. And so you see that for our major incident categories here. And then we break out just some subcategories. And this distribution of our stations is really helpful for some of these, I call them larger incident types, like a structure fire, For a motor vehicle collision, which we experience here in Sherwood off of 99, Tuala and Sherwood, right, where you have multiple vehicles involved in a collision, that could be a one, two, three unit response for the battalion chief, depending on the severity. When we're talking about a structure fire, That's a minimum of a response right out the gate of about five apparatus, right? So you're talking about two engines, two trucks. And so you're getting some truck response out of Tigard and Wilsonville coming in. And then obviously 34s is Tualatin. So when you see station 34, that's Tualatin. 35 is King City. 56 is that North Wilsonville station. And then 51 is one of our Tigard stations. So it was within that distribution. We use data a lot. So we get all of this data that comes in from CAD from our computer-aided dispatch, right? So that comes in and initially starts our incident reports. And for every single incident we have, all of our firefighters then come back to the station and they document what they found. And we have timestamps for interventions and whatnot. And we collect all of that. And that helps us inform what's occurring within the district, any shifts that we need to make with our unit performance, the staffing that we have. And so just one example there is we also like to look at when. So this is the where, you know, how many, where is it occurring, what is happening, and when is it occurring. So this is an hour of day chart here. It starts at midnight. So you can see it's a little bit calmer in the evening, but, you know, daylight pops up, people start getting out into the city and into the area, and then our call volume starts to pop up and It's a trend throughout the district. Throughout the morning and afternoon, we tend to run at that same level. And then as people start to head home, things will die down a little bit and never to zero. We still have definitely have calls in the evening, but we see when there's resources to be had. Daytime is definitely a concentration of incidents that occur from a when perspective. And then our day of week, every now and then we'll have conversations about day of week. This is just showing that distribution of incidents across the day of week. Like, hey, maybe Fridays are really busy for y'all with traffic or whatnot. Or, oh, Sundays, maybe they're pretty chill. Everybody's home. No, we see it across. As you can see here for the city of Sherwood, it's consistent. Seven days a week. We see that same level of call volume occurring. We just see that little change more so in the hour of day. We've noticed that even month over year, same kind of argument. You guys tend to spike more in the winter for bad weather, maybe the summer when it's hot. And what we've noticed is it's really stable for TVFNR and then all the cities that we have within the district, that even that month of year is relatively stable. We don't have really big spikes within the week or the month here. Do you have any questions about

I know this may be very naive, but it seems like taking a fire truck is maybe the least effective way to do this, given how many of those are EMS calls. And I know you kind of need to bring everything just in case, but are there other countries that do it differently so they have smaller things that are... EMS specific?

Yeah, we augment. So we have, we'll call them heavy apparatus. So think of a heavy apparatus as the engine or the big red truck that you would see on the road. We also have two person rescue and medic units. So those are two person units and they can handle about 80% of the medical calls that we run on. And so Station 35 has a rescue. It's actually here, relocated here into Sherwood while Station 35 in King City is being remodeled. But we have those two person units, rescues, medics. We also have squads that are two-person, so they can really help augment that, and they're going to hit those medical calls more often today than the larger units. Because the other thing, we always look at tasks that are required for every incident that we go on. So when you talk about medical, let's talk about cardiac arrest. And so we've looked at what is required to help a patient that is in cardiac arrest. When I say cardiac arrest, your heart stopped. It's a minimum of six people. that is needed on that. So we definitely need those engines and trucks on there. They're going to bring a minimum of four. If we happen to have one of those two person units, that'll generally do the trick. But where we don't have a two person unit, that individual is going to get eight people. And what we see with the training that we get through our medical director who works at OHSU, we're always looking at ways to improve our performance. And when we have those six to eight people on these calls, our ability to to stay on the chest and provide that airway, we have one of the highest cardiac arrest survival rates in the nation here at TDFNR. And it's because we look at that, because we have also some of those heavy assets to help out. And I would acknowledge, too, on the EMS. So the... Categories that you see there, the EMS, the fire and the hazard, those categories come from national reporting standards. And in the EMS section, they lump in the motor vehicle collisions. So your MVCs are in there, which we do like the heavy apparatus on the motor vehicle collisions. And then also incident types like the water rescues or technical rescues, where it does require having more hands to handle those. But we definitely have our two-person units. And then we have one-person units and what we call CARs. Those are Ford Explorers. And then in a couple of slides up here, we'll talk about a little bit more of the evolution of EMS that we're seeing in our service area.

It's not a naive question at all. We get it all the time of why would you do that? The other side of the point is you can't predict when fires are going to come in. And there's laws that we have to follow like two in and two out. We can't go necessarily inside your house and put out the fire unless there's two firefighters ready to rescue those firefighters that are going inside. That's why we have four person companies. And the other balance part of this is that we have standards for effective firefighting force. So it's a balance between the light assets and the heavy assets that you try to put into your system.

So, yeah.

So we're preparing for wildfire. I think this has been on the front of everybody's mind, especially since 2020. 2020 is where we experienced the large fires locally, the sky turned black. I was awake for 60 hours and then drove down to Southern Oregon and fought fire for another week. But we've been. actively preparing in this space well before 2020, and it's just continued. It's just kind of the weather patterns are changing. The fuel moisture contact is going down year after year after year. This year in the news, I think everybody's seen that we're in drought. That doesn't necessarily mean that we're going to have increased fires in this area, but the likelihood of that is definitely increased. So But there's lots of things that come into play. Lightning that comes through, careless discard of fire burning materials, things like that. So this last year, what we've been up to is we got everybody through a large drill at a private piece of property where we actually put fire on the ground down in March and April. And our crews practiced mobile attacks and progressive hose lays, which is largely what we would use for the fuel types in our areas, which are light, flashy fuels. Any times that we have fire in the heavier fuels, we're going to fight them a little bit different. 2024 and 2024 was unprecedented stuff and I don't even know how many times you deployed in 2024. Part of the state, but 2025 was a little calmer, but we lost more structures in 2025. Then all 15 years combined previously. So it depends on where the starts are happening, where the wind's coming from, where the topography is coming from, and how much head of steam that it has. So hopefully this year we're prepared. Well, I know we're prepared, but I hope that it's not as heavy as we think it might be.

We're also going to be doing a lot of education with regard, our safety net articles are going to be focused on that, and that's sent to all the households within our area. as well as videos and information so that people understand how, especially if they're in an urban wildland interface, that they know how to harden their home and make it more protected. Have some calls to action to do themselves.

Good. I have a question. With our expansion into Sherwood West, how does that change our wildfire risk profile?

Question.

Well, if I'm capturing exactly where Sherwood West is and your expansion into that area, it's going to be built up. As long as there's buffer zones between the built up and those flashy fuels, you're probably fine. But it's when you don't have buffer zones into those built up areas that you get structure to structure ignition and then you're not fine. And that's what we've found in 2020 where we lost, you know, I lost 150 homes in one night in Medford. Yeah. just can't get in front of it, can't get ahead of it, so.

When you say built up, you mean, can you clarify what that means?

Yeah, as long as it's built with non-combustible materials, hard to play exciting architectural comp roofing or concrete tilt up with non-combustible roof materials and you're not in your interface, meaning the vegetation isn't running right up to the buildings that you have buffer zones, you have grass, you have curves, you have sidewalks. You're fine.

You're not necessarily talking about building up. You're talking.

I'm just talking about the built up environment that will be that Sherwood West.

As you expand, tend to bring the services with you, right? Which also comes with hydrants and water supply, right? So we're covering that area today anyway, as you expand. that actually makes it better because you're bringing that infrastructure with you. And that can help us plan for that growing community and what it looks like. But the chief fail's point is what's surrounding, how are you building it, the infrastructure involved in it, and then kind of how does that surrounding area play to it.

At any time we have development, firepower weighs in on our .

So we're just hydrants and streets, but materials, because you mentioned one. Comfort and stuff like that in recent years, the state has preempted a lot of local control on enforcing standards around that like for years, you know we we push like hardy plank, you know the cement siding and stuff like that, but now builders can come in and. Basically, choose what they want. Is it is that something that TVF and our lobbies about in terms of safety and materials and stuff like that?

One of the advantages that you have with TVF and R was we are the only exempt fire department in the state of Oregon. Meaning we adopt our own local code. And that local code can be different than the state fire code. The reason that's such an advantage is we can actually work with our businesses to work on the code that makes sense for them, not only profitability, but livability within the community. So where the rest of the state go doesn't mean that has to happen in our jurisdiction.

When I talk about preemption, it's not on the fire code side. It's literally on our building code. Building codes, yeah, very different. Yeah, but I'm just wondering, do you guys,

allowed and what's not allowed because you're losing control of that in the name of building houses and we know local control is so important and we're supportive of that our fire marshal sits on that board for fire code which does at times Every now and then elective officials will try to put code information into laws. And that's really when we get engaged that it belongs in code doesn't belong in necessarily a law that can come and go. So yeah, they're heavily engaged in that space. But building code is different for us. It's we don't have as much leverage in that space at the state level as we do in the Oregon fire code.

State level levers we can use on sale. Certainly. Yeah. We got about 10 minutes left, by the way. Okay.

Speaking of the evolving EMS landscape, so I mentioned earlier, so we have advanced life support on all of our apparatus. So what that means is there's a minimum of a paramedic on every response apparatus. We have four-person, two-person, one-person. But EMS is evolving in white people. 9-1-1 is evolving, right? It's definitely 9-1-1 is readily available to us all the time. Your watch will call 9-1-1 for you. Even if you don't want it to, your car is going to call 911 for you, right? But we're also seeing a transition where 911 is also becoming a primary healthcare provider. And so we're starting to respond a bit more on some of those non-emergent that don't require ALS resources. And so we're looking at different ways that we can work on our resources, working with our dispatch center and looking for alternatives to how we respond to the EMS needs of our community. So we have a couple of different programs that we're working on with that.

Yeah, one of them is Advanced Practice Community Paramedic Program. These people are a single person on a unit, and they bring a really special skill set. First of all, they're trained to a higher critical care. So when we have a cardiac arrest, we have a stroke, we have a heart attack, they'll tend to respond to those and provide a higher level of care, even beyond our normal ALS paramedics. That part has been quite successful for us. But they take the second role, which is they then target and work with high 911 utilizers that are taking up those assets for non-acute, low-acuity calls. when that happens, those assets aren't available for the strokes, for the cardiac arrest, for the STEMIs. So we try to get them hooked up with other care avenues. And that's been pretty successful for us. We also started a care facility outreach program that makes up care facilities make up a large volume of our time and resources so it's working with those staff on lift assist making sure they have enough employees that they're required to have on the ground to evacuate people if need be lift them up off the ground and take care of low acuity type incidents and we also partnered with uh gmr with a program called nurse navigation this happens at dispatch So the call is triaged, and if it's low acuity, it goes to nurse navigation. And oftentimes that nurse can navigate them to a different route besides 911.

Especially getting them telehealth through the 911 system. We prefer them instead of a fire engine or a car or a squad heading. they can get resources through telehealth.

And if we don't do this, what happens for taxpayers is we'll continue to have to deploy, deploy, deploy, deploy to keep up with the call volume. And right now we have one of the lowest base millage rates of any metropolitan size department, certainly in the state of Oregon. To keep that low is critical for us. So we have to put these other systems in place. Otherwise, we just have to deploy our rate out of it.

And that data that I talked about that all those crews were reporting on, that's how we know that. We know how we're treating our patients. We know the level of interventions that we need, which is helping us then direct like what else can we do? So it's been kind of on the cusp of working through that, but it's not going to stop. We're going to keep working on those efforts. Our bonding capital projects. So we've spoken about this in meetings prior. You can see Station 35 in King City and Station 20, some of our south stations down in Newport. Just wanted to show you some renderings of what some of these newer stations could look like. Station 33 here in Sherwood is also a station we were looking at would be a rebuild. So it would be something likely a two-story station just depending on the lot. So we just wanted to show you a couple of renderings. We have some objectives that we're looking at when we do our new construction. Right. We want to make sure our crews are safe and healthy. So the trauma that our crews experience. Right. I think there's some statistics about, you know, us as general public interacting with some type of traumatic event, extremely less than what our firefighters see throughout their careers. So we want to make sure that they have space where they can be quiet, they can work through any situations that they have, but then also spaces where they can get together and work through. So we're really looking at some of the safety and health components of our stations. Decontaminations, our firefighters are also exposed to carcinogens, fires, and they wear it. And so we're really focusing on these decontamination areas that before they go into the station, they're taking off those turnouts, they're getting them cleaned. High pressure systems that will suck the air out so that those carcinogens just aren't lingering in the air. So a lot of different areas that we're focusing on for the health and safety of our firefighters. We want to make sure that our stations are large enough that they can accommodate the future deployment. So as the call volume continues to increase, like we have in Sherwood, that there's enough bay space, there's enough bunk space where we can add more units in the future without having to rebuild or remodel the station again. So we're trying to right-size the stations now and looking at equity as well. So back in the day, right, everybody slept in the same room. You see it on some of the 911 shows that are on today, right? One, that's not from a, you know, safety and security space, right? It's kind of nice to have your own space, but then, you know, it's already hard enough to sleep in a fire station with calls, but when Stefan's snoring right next to you, that's not helpful, right? So it gives them a space where they can have their own space to, again, work through any emotions that they might have, but then also from a sleeping perspective, and even exercising technology, right? where we're looking at being able to tap. So when instead of the entire station being tapped out, let's say we have an engine and a medic, we can just tap out those bunk rooms. So the entire station doesn't have to wake up for the medical call. Maybe just the two bunk rooms that the medic personnel are sleeping in. So we've got a lot of objectives that we're trying to work into stations.

Like equally sounds that wake you up instead of that. I was like, when I was there, I was like, wake up.

It's a heart health thing. There's quite a few documented cases of cardiac arrest in firefighters just from the bells going off at three in the morning.

It would be those bells and then bright light, right? And so now it's do-do-do, and we ease into the lighting. We also are looking at the utilization of LEDs and the color of the lights when they turn on. So now I can see, but it's just not this bright white burning light. So we're looking at a lot of those. Awesome.

For this presentation, we would certainly have station 33 up in here. It is slated for a major remodel, like tear almost tear down to the bones remodel. But we've been working with city staff on possible relocation. So we've put that on pause. And that's why you're seeing these two stations, which feed into Sherwood. These are often responding in Sherwood when 33s is on another call. So that's the interest point for these two stations. And then to also talk about our station.

I just want to say, we really appreciate your partnership on that because that is key for us to open up downtown and to extend that road. As I said, I think we talked a little bit about it at one of the events recently that- we're here to partner, we're here to figure out, solve problems and make that happen.

So there's two key components that I think is important for everybody to understand. First and foremost, just on our side, we're more than happy to work with you all on this. It's important to the communities that we serve, and it's important to Sherwood that you get to be where you need. We don't want to be a hurdle for that, but it really can't cost our taxpayers more. And then the second part, it can't hurt response. As long as we stay in those two parameters, we can move forward.

A lot of things. And as I said before, you know, we have levers on our side that can help on other items as well. So, yeah.

And we also shown them Chiller West, right? And said, here's where we're going with. Oh, yeah, they were going there, yeah. They just don't want to be like, oh, we built that out and now it's box time.

I think they have another station planned out on Roy Rogers somewhere. Yeah.

We're planning, we want to build a station Roy Rogers in the Bees Bend area. So it's King City's coming out, Tiger coming out, you're coming out. That we have from a financial perspective. So there's standards on travel times in the nation's about 4 minute travel time, or the industry standards for travel. That would be a station on every corner, but where we can get into that beef going where Rogers, it really gives us an awesome avenue into getting into that West side of Sherwood really quickly. And so we are looking at making sure we can secure some land for that future station.

I was just quoting the 4 minute mark the other day when I was taking CPR for state funds. I'm glad I remembered it right.

I don't know if you have time for this. We might have just eaten up that 10 minutes.

Last slide.

Yeah, five more minutes. Go for it. So we have a ton of programs into place, but they're all reactionary for the behavioral health side of our firefighters. We don't make a product. All we have is these people that are whole, hopefully whole, arrive on your problem, help you solve that problem, and then go solve another problem. So it's imperative that we have systems in place. But all of our systems really are reactionary until we started to introduce the Struggle Well program. It teaches that wisdom is born out of deep struggle rather than victimization. When you watch firefighters, police officers, combat veterans, it's almost like you're going to automatically live a diminished life. We don't believe that. We believe that you're going to live a wise life based off of the things that you've been asked to do as a servant. This program reinforces that. To give you just some quick numbers on how successful this is. In 2024, we had 36 presumptive PTSD cases in the state of Oregon. Presumptive means it's presumed that you got it in the course of your duty rather than, you know, taking a member and putting them through the mud and trying to figure out exactly when these tragic, you know, traumatic events happen. The problem with that is that they lose their mission, lose their tribe. The statistics behind that is that they're 83% more likely to become involved in substance abuse and their life expectancy is decreased by 15 years on that diagnosis. So we want to prevent them from even getting there. And it's a million dollar claim. So 36 presumptive cases in the state of Oregon in 2024, 33 went through a program called Warrior Path. Struggle Well is just a condensed version that all employees go through that. 33 are back to work. That's a savings of $33 million. Think about the impact to their life expectancy and their likelihood of substance abuse. Of all of our programs, it's been wildly impactful. So where does that hit you? Anytime that we have somebody go off on PTSD, they live in your communities. They're members of your communities. They're no longer functioning at that high level. They've lost their mission. Now they're a drain on resources. They're a drain to their families. So we're trying to do everything we can to keep our folks out of that space and get them to retirement where they can leave on their own terms, healthy and happy, and also significant savings to the state of Oregon. That's the struggle program. Sounds good.

And then for lack of time, there's QR code there. We have a video that we've created. We started doing this the last couple of years. So if you'd like to watch our year end review, you can hit the QR code. It's also available on our YouTube channel.

Thanks again for coming. We can't tell you how much we appreciate you and your team and all the men and women, you know, in your core out there to do the work. They were just in my absolutely happy. Thanks so much. Thank you all. Bye now.

Just all your cities to do this.

Yeah, it's way better. Thank you. Gary? Yeah. Thank you. So that officially closes out our work session. In a few minutes, we'll start our community program committee meeting. Welcome everybody to our annual community enhancement program committee meeting. Before we jump into this, this is, and someone's got to correct me if I'm wrong here, but as part of your garbage bills, there's a little, Metro takes a little bit of that money and puts it into a fund. that funds community enhancement plans within our community. And those dollars are allocated to cities in the region based on volume of trash, I'm assuming. And, but every year we meet, we have an application cycle where people can apply for grants. And then we, all of us who are on the committee score them and review them and some recommendations and we compare them to this meeting and make decisions. Super exciting this year that we have almost double, in terms of dollars, twice the amount of applications than we have dollars to spend this year. So that's really cool that more people know about the program and are putting their grant applications in. So thank you everyone that's here to represent your grants. But when it's the same amount, it's a lot easier. So it makes it difficult for us because they're all wonderful applications, but at the end of the day, we have to make make some hard decisions. So with that, David, did you have a way you wanted to work through this?

Yeah, first I need to conduct a roll call and then we need to approve last June's meeting minutes and then I'll kind of go through my spiel and just open it up for the committee to talk. I'll start with roll call if you don't mind, Mayor. Tim Rosner, Mayor. Council President Young? Here. Renee Brous?

Here.

Taylor Giles? Here. Keith Mays, Doug Scott, Dan Stanky, and Metro Councilor Garrett Rosenthal. And with that, I'll turn it over to approve the June 3rd, 2025 names.

Second. All those in favor of approving the amendment, say aye. Opposed?

Okay. So as the mayor already discussed, we're here to talk about the community enhancement grant program. And he's already mentioned, you know, we have about 127,000 ish rounded up to give out, but we had a little over $261,000 in requests. So the committee is going to have some tough choices tonight. Um, So what we put together on the screen, we put up everyone, what we do for the folks that are sitting around here that have never been through this process, we send out the packets to the committee, they score them, they provide their suggestions on how much they would like to award. And then at times we have discussions. So I'm just going to kind of go through and mayor, we can start with, do you just want to start from the top and work ourselves down or the ones that maybe that people have said, no, we don't want to fund it all. We at least get those ones out of the way.

Can we shrink the width so we can fit this? Well, I would just say shrink A and B a little bit. We don't need to be as wide as they are. Yeah.

Can I just ask or point out one clarifying thing? All of these, I'm assuming, because I haven't checked specifically, have been reviewed to meet two basic criteria. One, they have to be within the disposal district, which is the pride disposal district, because that's where the money comes from. And two, they have to be a nonprofit or a city-sponsored organization.

Staff goes through that.

Staff has gone through that. I just wanted to make sure that those are two of the criteria that Metro has to pay most attention to. Yeah. That was a great call-out. Also, I have to comment. You guys are great. Two years ago or a year ago, you had to go around twice just to get enough applications, so your outreach was deferred. You had to go through two rounds.

The last two years have been the opposite.

David, before we get rolling into this, in previous years, we've set aside some money for a bigger project down the road. Does the $120

That excludes that. So just to give the committee an idea of how much we have built up in the reserves, because we talked about and we involved in that 20% reserve. So June 30th, 2025, those are monies that we received. We know what we received, just about $49,000. But with what we're projecting to receive this year and next fiscal year, we're going to have a little over $96,000 in reserves. So if the committee so should choose, you also can dip into that money.

Okay. So- I want to clarify what I'm asked. So is the 127,000 spending everything we're having or is 20% already being pulled out? It's already being pulled out. Okay. Thank you.

So the committee does have up to 126,800 to give out. Without dipping into reserves? Yeah, without dipping into reserves.

set aside out of this current year?

Or this current year and next current or next fiscal year too. So for both. Because, you know, we're currently and we're still projecting what we're going to receive this year. And then we're projecting what we're receiving.

David, can you make a correction to mine on the Pine Street poll? What I submitted to Leslie was the full value of 11,000 instead of 10.

Oh, no. These batteries work.

There was one poll I missed looking at. The NUM walk-on? Oh, you have to- Enable content.

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Hey. Can you get Mark? Because he signed in on this. I don't know if I could. I'm trying to make changes to this. Do you need to sign in since this is- No, you have to sign. Okay.

I always get my passwords. So short.

Yeah, this is you already signed in right or you were brought or signed in on this. I can try something, but it might

Move to the next meeting.

This is what I got before. Available. Yeah, and the financier drug. Can you save it as a different game and save it to the desktop? Sure.

I'll change the thousand now.

There's still a yellow bar there, but I don't know. That's going to manage something.

There we go.

I'm trying to get logged into the SharePoint site. Just launch a browser.

to be my short point.

So we're just going to take a five-minute recess. So we are back in session. Go ahead, David.

So we got the workbook up. So what we'll do is just kind of go through. I changed Councilor Young to $11,000 for the Pine Street Light Bowl. So I don't know if we just want to start from the top and work ourselves down.

Let's start with the ones where there's a lot of agreement. This one is an agreement.

Yeah. I'm going to put them in three bucks. Yes or no.

So this top one, you know, we need a majority of the counselors to fund this. So that are the committee. So we at least need five out of eight. Here on the top one, Keith, was this correct? You want to 18,000? They had requested 9,500. Yeah, absolutely. 18,000?

Yep. Okay. If I went over, it was intentional. If I went under, it was intentional. Okay, perfect. I just want to make sure it wasn't typo by my staff.

So they didn't do a 10% match. That's why mine's reduced.

Yeah, because they're a board and commission. They don't have 10%. So that'll come from staff. Basically, they put the staff in there. And that was probably partly our fault. We were trying to give them an estimated cost per bench or per garbage can. It depends on, because that's what they want to do, benches and garbage cans for the trail. And it depends on what shipping is, what a lot of different factors. So what their ultimate goal was to get a set amount of get as much as they can to go towards that. But we were trying to give them an all-in cost, knowing that each location was going to have different needs, like footings and concrete that's already there.

I suspect the Parks Board has a healthy list of little projects that could be done. So any number that this group gave them, they would use well.

Yeah.

If this group decided to give money towards that.

They had in the discussions they had around the submission, they probably had four or five ideas that they could have gone after, and this is the one that they chose.

Except that to give them more than their application, you can't go for anything that's not an application.

Great.

Yeah.

Yeah, I'm for the MLDS.

Yeah, we have the majority.

So we have the majority that are funding for the full amount. I know in years prior, we've done averages because some committee members said no. But we at least have five committee members that are saying fund the full amount.

Let's say you. Garrett, what do you think?

Well, I was wondering why somebody put in more, double the requested amount. I already said.

I missed that. We need to get you some marinade, brother. I believe they've got quite the laundry list of projects and they can do more if they were given more. So they haven't asked before. Okay. do the full amounts?

Right. To answer the specific question, and I haven't entered numbers in any of these, and the reason, and I don't, it's really up to you to decide whether to do the average or to do the full amount. And the reason I don't is because these are Sherwood projects, and I don't have, I don't live, although I live in the Sherwood School District, that could be considered partial to the Sherwood School District, but I don't live in Sherwood, so As long as it meets the minimum test, it's really what's for the community benefit is not for me to judge. So that's why I've sort of stayed out of this. I don't want to vote for one or two that I would like particularly and then not know anything about the other ones. So I think that that would be unfair.

It's easy for the tiebreaker, right? I'm just going to prove that. I hope there isn't a tie.

It looks like it's consistent on the second one. The third one, we only had three folks respond, so that's just zero. Are we in agreement there?

No. For me, on that one, it was just a little bit more specificity on where it's going to go and what the themes are going to be.

What we have liked to have had somewhere already identified because we gave money like three or four years ago with nothing done. I don't think it ever got used either. So I know there have some places they're working on.

So at the Cultural Arts Committee meeting last night, I was told that staff was told not to be specific with the application. And so they were not specific in the application about the direction that they were given.

We can revisit that.

Because they have two sites that are interested at some level.

All right. Can you make it so we can see column A? Yeah.

Oh, shrink down. Okay, I'll trick it down.

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Okay, so for the next one, we don't have consensus. We only have four folks funding the full amount, and the mayor's looks like half. There's five total.

Oh, yeah, you do.

Yeah, we have five, but we're not. Five out of seven. Okay, so are we going to go with the average there then? No, you have four going for the full. Yeah, and you got one not, so we don't have a consensus on the amount of funding.

I think four is enough, though, right?

No, the majority is five. Oh, yeah, I got it. So it's being funded. The question is the amount. Yes.

Oh, wait. Well, that's not fair to count somebody who hasn't scored anything technically.

Okay. Well, I, I, the only reason I reduced it is just so I could spread money around other projects. So

I mean, if four out of seven said full, we can put it full and then if we're over, we'll have to come back and review everything. But yeah, that was late.

This was a new service as well.

Yeah. I really like what they're doing. Yeah, I like it. It's a great service. It's the same problem in one boxes.

And I have five.

Next one only has four.

So there's five people all at the same time.

The 18,000 is one.

Yeah, no, I'm sorry. I skipped down. The 18,000 is fine. I put the 18. It's the next one. We have only four individuals. Two at 2,500, one at 4,000. You want me to highlight that? We come back to that one?

Yep.

Same here. We only have four. Well, we said four was enough. I know. It actually has to be the majority of the committee. Okay. Per the IGA, it says the majority of the committee has to agree on the funding.

My thinking on this one was, like, I'll fund one as an experiment, and let's see how the attendance is. That's where I got my number from.

And I did two for that same.

So really quick, I need to disclose a, what is it called?

Conflict of interest.

Possible conflict of interest. I am a contract employee for, I'm being paid as a contractor by the Chamber of Commerce. I do not, this decision and the decision on the next one does not influence whether I get paid or not. So I don't receive any benefit from it. But to be honest, I wanted to declare that.

No.

And then my reasoning for putting one is if I recall the request, one speaker is 6,000. If we were to give them the opportunity to give that speaker a try and see if it was successful or not, then in the future years, they could ask for more.

Counselor, do you feel like you're putting them on bias?

Yes, I can be completely on bias.

I have a suggestion in the sake of time. For the ones that don't have support, that we're marking yellow that are 44, We should just see where we're at, money-wise, and then come back to them. That's what we're doing. Well, no, we were just talking about it.

Okay, I hear what you're saying.

Well, I think it's fair to let her talk about it.

Can we announce which ones we're talking about? Because the people behind us can't read them.

We're on the Thurwood Chamber of Commerce, the Sherwood Community Speaker Series, and Renee was just talking about her, just wanted to be clear that she has no conflict of interest, and then just talking about why she split it, which is good.

I will offer that since I do have a vote, if you get to an impasse on any one particular item, I will weigh in on it. Okay. Sounds good.

David, what do you think about minimizing column F and zooming to 70% to try to get this a little bit bigger?

Yeah, for people who can zoom up again.

I think we can get to 80 even. Nope, 70. That's good.

Even somebody at work, that's fine. Yeah, I'll just slide it back and forth.

That's good.

Okay.

All right. So which one are we on now, David? Band instruments, we all agreed on zero there. The next one, Mom's Night Out, movie fundraiser, in-kind boxes. We only have four out of the eight committees, so I'd just let that highlighted. So we're down to the 40th anniversary initiative for Casa for Children. We have different amounts. We have three at $5,000. 3 at 10,000, 1 at 2,500.

Well, and part of this was due to the error that on this thing, well, they were asking in this column for 5,000, even though in the application it asked for 10. Okay. So people may have been putting in 5,000 thinking they were funding it fully.

I would fund that. I would change mine. This is a program for That is hugely needed. That is a state mandate that the state only funds 25% for these foster kids to have an advocate.

Yeah, and I think mine was a mistake because it was supposed to be fully funded.

Yeah, same to them. Okay. Well, it looks like we have agreement for the full. Yeah, I'll say that they are. But I just want to record it. Reach down.

Can you, sorry, can you scroll up? Yes, it is. If you freeze row at 13, so our names in the header stay, just click on.

I have a question. Maybe the committee can answer this.

Well, never mind that. We're in Chrome.

Click on the shop. Right on the top. I'm very open.

And then click view.

Sorry, it's on view. Where is it? Freeze Paints. Freeze Paints. Right there. We're up to a problem. Now we scroll down and we'll click mark. Okay.

Permit me a question. Has the committee decided whether or not to drop anything that receives, say, three or fewer votes completely? That's what we've been doing. That's what you've been doing. Okay. So anything, three or fewer, you drop. And if it's four, which is... Come back to those. Come back to those. Okay. I see how much money we have. This one.

A commission member can wrangle other committee members. Yeah. Yeah, okay.

I just wanted to clarify. Thanks.

Is yellow still on the table, or is green? We're coming back to that.

Yellow, we've got to come back to. So right now, we're on. Wait, wait, wait. Yellow is out. Let's just one at a time. So on line 34, that's only three votes, so that should be blank. That should not be yellow. It should be green. And 33 as well. No, it should be blank.

He's been making all of them green. That way we're on our way. Green are the ones where we said, no one decided on the funding. There was consensus. much we're going to award.

No, it's not. You have two different things bucketed in yellow right now. You have mismatches and you have under supported.

So I think what we want to do is if there's three or less, just mark it as a different color.

Mark it red.

I would like it red, but that works. I'll do the same color scheme I'm using right now. So... So why are you marking this green? Line 29 is only one version. There will be three or less. So green's the ones for funding.

Yes. He's been marking green. I'm giving nothing to both things.

All right.

What color would everyone like? No, it's fine.

Would you like red for not funding? No, it's fine. Let's go green. OK. Where were we? Let's go back up.

Line 29 only has one person and line 28 only three.

On the playground improvements, I honestly was moved by the engagement of the fifth graders and how many wrote letters. I felt like that was a chance for some civic engagement for them at a pretty low cost. That's why I thought And especially that they're able to get more playground space there. Oh, there it is. That's the number 30. Yeah, similar notes for me on that one.

I had originally funded that as well and then realized they didn't do the 10% match either. But what I liked about that one is not, some of them are school district properties, which is, but also the community uses those benches. So I would be okay with funding that. Yeah, the key, I guess. If we're not going to adhere to the 10%.

Yeah, the key, the key on that was it was open to everybody out when school's not in session, right? That was where they said in the, in the application, they said, this space is open to everyone. Where is it located?

Middleton.

So I think we have the applicant here.

Some of the fifth graders are here too. Question. I understood that our district staff donating their time. meant the requirement for the 10% match. And perhaps that was an error on my part.

And maybe it just wasn't spelled out. That's clear to me that that was 10%. And so I would be fine with this.

This is our first time applying, and I'm not an easy application. That was our intent, was the district is donating their labor hours to install the project if we were to be awarded. Oh, good. or even part of the grant to cover a couple of tables.

You have four under 24, which... Oh, wait, we're still...

Stand on 30, please. Yeah, let's talk about this one. Highlight the line so everybody can see which one we're going to. 30, the playground improvement. There we go.

Okay, David, I am good with fully funding that program.

Where at Middleton are these located?

You know, I'm going to tell you, the kids will tell you.

Yeah, yeah.

Can you tell where you plan to put the picnic benches and the umbrellas? Where the garden, why do you want it out by the garden?

I can speak to it.

It's on the back side of the building where you can kind of see out to the fields. Okay. It expands the playground. Right now, there's enough students at the elementary school that they need to schedule school lunches starting very early in the day, all through the day, because we don't have enough square footage for all the students on the playground. And so this is increasing square footage of usable space on the playground for students. As well, teachers might take their classes out to do like an assignment, a writing assignment or something, have the picnic tables if it's nice weather. Just to, you know, kind of mix it up at the end of the school year as students are getting back. We did choose one bench that is an ADA picnic table because of all the elementary schools in the district, Middleton is the one that has the skills center. So any students that have like a developmental disability are at our elementary school. Currently, they would be installed on our campus, which that is not an ADA. We serve this. But we were talking with the principal and our hope would be that we as the parent advisory council might be able to fund putting an ADA base for that table alone next year if we were to be awarded the grant so that the skill center students and wheelchairs have an ADA table at the ground.

Was funding for this requested through the school district at any point in the past?

Yes. Well, we met with the district and asked if there was any funding available. And they told us that our elementary school, we don't have any funding for any playground improvements. And so we, as the parent advisory council, have been working to try to raise funds in other avenues for playground.

David, I'd like to change my footfall amount, please. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

And David, if you could just keep that line highlighted so we can track where we're at.

If somebody used all of their allocation, be sure to remove dollars. Yeah, well, I'll check that at the end.

Good point. Oh, I was way under, so I can... All right, so we're on line 31 now, which is the high school... baseball hitting blank agents. Looks like that was a no across the board.

Yeah. The next one is expanding essential support for families here in Sherwood. That is through Love Inc. Looks like we have four folks at the full amount and we have a couple underneath that. So we just got to agree on the funding dollar figure.

Yeah. I remember there being a breakdown in their application. I believe this is the one where Like, four thousand dollars was kind of for staff pay or time or operational pay or something. And that's why the six thousand was for, like, one time expenses, which is why I'm supportive of that. But not. Not the remainder of staff time or payable or whatever you call it. That's just one person. So.

Well, it looks like we have five at the full house.

We have four. Yeah.

If you're showing five at fold.

Yeah, I think.

One, two, three, four at fold.

Oh, yeah, I'm sorry. I was looking at the wrong line.

$500.

One, two, three, four, yes.

Maybe there was something else. Do you want to be the tiebreaker where I came up with $6,000?

That was their materials and supplies number. I don't need to be the team now. Okay.

All right. We have enough bathroom project. We have enough.

Oh, hold on. Yeah. Yeah. So on the basketball scholarships, my only, and again, I realized for law money, the only, my only thinking was, With everybody's budgets being scratched, you know, stretched and different things, youth sports was, you know, a big part of my growing up. And so I gave them half the amount they were requesting to give some, you know, thing. This might be one that we might be able to come back and say, hey, you know, we can't give you the 10,000 for scholarships, but there's something to keep those programs strong and going. That was my thinking on it, where I wanted to make sure that, especially, you know, that's an easy thing to cut when times get tough. And so I was hoping that we could have a little bit of actually, I understand there's other, everything on here is great, but.

I looked at it as they need 10,000 every year. So this solves a one-year problem. What do they do next year or the year after that? I get it. Yeah.

Maybe times are better. Yeah. I read that one. So they said that last, that they didn't, I don't know.

I don't want to guess on their finance, but I mean, okay.

I'm not going to, this might be one that I, again, I'd be willing to come back to if there's only two, so it's not even, we're like, we're that close. So, all right.

I'd like to take one off of this one.

Next one, I'll look down. We have a discussion about this room. Okay.

I just want my number taken out first. Okay.

Who's the, who's the applicant on this one?

So I'll, I'll tell you my reasoning. My reasoning was that we've given money to them recently. It is not a, while it's, you know, they do good things for the community and this, you know, stuff like that. It's not a, it's not a public space in the traditional sense. And I felt like, you know, if their membership is not able to fund it because of declining membership, then are we building and upgrading that building so that it can be you know, sold in the future? Or, you know, is it a sustainable ongoing thing? Or is it something that, you know, they're on a several million dollar piece of property there? And are we putting money in this building that is not going to be a public benefit for long was my thinking.

Yeah, here, somebody wanted to chime in.

Oh, I'll start and I'll hand it off. But as far as The Oaks Lodge as a whole, it's been in place since 1966. Our membership is continuing this. I've been leading the building committee. So as far as the projects, last year we did the floor project that was funded and well used. I will just say that we have a five-year plan. We look out, we're working on capital projects along with our facility maintenance, but we contribute to the community. The high school, we are one of the biggest event centers for the community that people use. And we have... whether it be the fireballs, the high school has many different committees that work over there and they just come across the street and contribute there. And then we do our Christmas things where families in the community and that. So the one thing we're trying to do, and I think this started last year, was take the mystery out of the Elks Lodge that has been here for 60 years type of thing. So very... interactive with the community as far as that. I guess I have two experts. I got my exalted ruler.

Hi, I'm Tammy. I'm an exalted ruler for the Elks. I've been a member there for 17 years and have seen some amazing community support throughout those 17 years. We don't charge the Sherwood High School when they come up and do their fundraisers for their boosters or teacher appreciation or there's so many events. We do, sorry, some of the other things that we do like for the Bowman Foundation, they come up and they use our facilities. Again, we have a very reciprocal, um, uh, relationship with them. We have, uh, we just use it so much for our community. Um, that, I mean, we do fundraisers. We are, you know, for scholarships we do, uh, for our vets and we have our veterans cafe. We have a veterans closet so veterans can come up and, um, you know, get shoes and coats and appliances, small appliances. We have the welcome home kits that we do for the veterans. So there's a lot of support that we have, you know, and you know, the veterans, they are very happy with coming up and enjoying the lodge as well. A lot of them come for our bingo night as well.

um it's a very popular thing for the community in the the area i think i was with you taylor um well i yeah i've been there for lots of community things because i'm not a member but i've been developed many times um is that we i was trying to spread some out and think maybe we hadn't funded last year um so that's between them and the legion that's why yeah for me this year

Well, full disclosure, I am a member. I don't get there as often as I would like, but I do recognize all the things you do for veterans and the community and making that space available for all the different booster clubs and stuff. So I wanted to give something, but I was also trying to spread it around. So that's why I did a portion.

I'm a member too, but I chose not to just because I'm optimistic that the property I think we'll go through. So.

All right. Next one.

This is the American Legion. And it looks like everyone agreed not to fund that. And the next one, we only had one. Oh, sorry. Here.

Yeah, I shouldn't speak out, perhaps I should, but as you know, there's been this food waste reduction program and Metro has supported it for now seven years and we're cutting the funding for that this year, partly because of lower revenues from the lower tonnage. And so... If there were three people, I would definitely vote for this one because it has a tendency to save food and reduce the amount of food waste that goes into the system. On snap to step.

Oh, okay.

Sorry.

Not on the backyard. So I just would mention that that is one that ties in with a metro program. in a somewhat direct way, but I have no idea how effective Mudflow is.

Well, that was the problem for me. Their application, they're from out of town. Their application said nothing about how many people they would serve in our community. It sounded like maybe they were busing people into our community. So I just didn't feel like it was serving.

They're hosting the events here in Sherwood. Yeah. Open to the public. Yeah. Yeah, and I understand the need for food waste reduction and methane emissions and all that fun stuff, but I just have higher priorities. And so some of the other programs are improved. Did you want to talk about the cheerleading one?

There's four, or are we just skipping over that and going back to that? I'd like to talk about the cheerleading one. Safety.

That's the safety initiative. I love that it's focused on K-8. Also one-time expenses. It's one-time expenses. And anything we need to get kids involved with sports and those types of activities at that age, I think is great.

Why'd you cut it $4.20?

I was lazy. I have full support. I There's too many numbers to type on my phone.

Yeah. My only, my only thought on it was, you know, as a, I've never had a kid in gymnastics. I just know that I've, I've paid a lot for equipment for other sports as a parent. And even for commonly used equipment for, you know, the whole team kind of a thing. And so my thought was, do they not have boosters and, and, groups like that, but, and so I think that's probably don't have this.

I mean, they do. I could say that the difference between like this kind of sport and like baseball, football, baseball, football, all those sports, you buy your own personal equipment.

Yeah.

These sports, it's not, it's literally like equipment that sits, gets set up permanently in a gym that takes up tons of square feet, right? And the temple tracks that they're looking to buy, those have a 20-year lifespan. So it's a one-time purchase that they'll use for 20 years.

But wouldn't the gym... Well, they don't own a gym.

This is not a gym. Well, they rent some... My understanding is they rent some space. I don't know if anyone here from this place... They rent some space, but they don't have this equipment in that space. It's a safer way to train tumbling. Basically, it's like... Gives you an assist. Yeah.

I love it. Yeah. And I was also trying to look at how can I spread the money the most. Yeah.

I'll just comment that safety for youth in gymnastics, it's a good body training thing. And I would be inclined to put at least 47 to 52. Not mine. Yeah.

What is the 47 to get them.

Let's have.

Yeah, I understand them to give applications with you. You know what kind of is this a situation where they could accept half of the numbers of the public someplace.

That are maybe they don't have the batteries or that you could do with that. I have to admit, I didn't review this one, so I don't know what their minimum was.

Kim has it. She was going to. She has it.

The keyboard. There we go. All right. Ads for everyone.

Yeah, batteries.

You know, I took the five grand out of the snap to step. I'll put the five grand there that I was going to. Five grand here? Yeah.

If only partial funding that they said 3,000 some. If they get to happen.

We'd be okay with it as well.

We agree to support. Sorry. I'm like, I'm better.

It looks like we could do the average.

So, if you have any, so, you know, they're in the closet, you do a copy base.

Well, I just don't want to make minutes.

So they have just, as Rene, I think just pointed out, the average is at $550,000, $560,000. Do we want to just say $5,000 or go with that?

I'll go with that.

I think so.

Can't do anything yet, David.

Probably the other guy, David. You can copy Jake Tabor's stuff with your mouse. It won't even.

So you'll get the battery in a second.

$5 a set. Look at that.

Joy of tech.

Be special.

Our lives depend on batteries, don't they? Yeah.

Do we have any other that have four votes? Yes. So we're up to 93,000 for the next place to start.

I was going to go back to the basketball scholarships, because I'm reading the guidelines.

Chapter 24, discussion item.

Are we doing four votes? I just want to make sure we're finished on that last one. Just go ahead. So we're at 5,000 on that one. So now we're going to go back up and look at the ones that were four votes. Should be able to hit escape. We'll clear that song.

It's working. It must be distance from the hub or something.

Moms Night Out had four votes.

Yeah, this is the one that had four votes. Are there any more above that?

And our question is here.

Okay, so let's, David, yeah? So could you highlight the line that we're working on right now? I know you're trying to, yeah. It's really hard for us to follow where we're at. So we're on line 24, the Moms Night Out, and I think we have the applicant here.

All right, I got you right there. All right.

So my idea for it is, obviously, it's a fundraiser for In Kind Boxes. We provide natural and organic essentials for newborns and their moms. And we help hundreds of families every year. And in the past, we have asked for grants through this program to support the shared thunder. So just to provide the boxes that the SHARE Center requested from us. But this year, I thought it would be a more impactful idea to have a Moms Night Out where it's similar, in a sense, to the Wine Walk or something, where we're drawing a bunch of people into the community. what would happen is it's not alcohol focused. It's focused on having the event culminate at the Center for the Arts to watch a movie. But prior to that, we would encourage people to come into Old Town and have drinks and dinner. And we would also have like activations or activities that people could do prior to the movie. So dinner and like puzzling at Araceli's or like, having pop-up shops in like symposium or just different spaces in Old Town. And in previous places that we have, my husband and I have lived, activities that the city has hosted have been, it's called like dine around or dine out in that you are offering like, say happy hour pricing to the people who have bought a ticket to be involved. So we're not asking for every company in Woldenown would donate to us. The donation comes through the ticket sales. So we would charge $30 to have a ticket to come to the movie and then be able to participate in the specials or discounts offered by the businesses. So it would draw, the number is 400 that the Center for the Arts said. The majority of our cost would be to rent the Center for the Arts and to get the movie licensing. Um, and then, but like all of the, this work is volunteer. I volunteer my tattooing. It's not going to salary. It's basically just money from the city, going back to pay the city to change the space. So I feel like it's beneficial. It's beneficial. Like mom's need and mom's need of reason to come together. I think it's beneficial for us to like have an excuse to get out and be together. It's for charity, and it's going to help all the local businesses in Old Town.

And then your funds raised, you will purchase boxes with?

You will purchase essentials.

Essentials to make the boxes with. Yes.

Yeah. So we're hoping to raise $12,000 with that $5,000. And, yeah, the majority of the $5,000 is going to the Center for the Arts to rent the movie, like, the main room and then the classroom. I want to do, like, miniature like cookie decorating sessions in there so we'll have it's all just lots of like moms and all good things have you have you guys put on this kind of that before you have a proof of concept on how yeah so um i haven't done this specific event but i did a movie night out fundraiser for brenda archer glenn in the fall who has cohenia so i know i'm I've literally done, like, all of this already. We didn't charge for tickets, but the forum that I'm going to use to process the tickets is free for 501c3s, which we are, so we want to pay any fees for that.

And who's your target?

Moms. Any moms.

Yeah.

Okay. Gary, go ahead.

Well, I'll just say in looking at this that I thought, well, it's a nice concept. Part of it struck me as a little amorphous, so I must admit I had put down on my list $2,500. So if you want to enter that. I'll hopefully enter.

You know, on this timing, because when I originally looked at this, I was thinking I'd rather just give you $5,000 to create boxes. That was what I was thinking too. Now that I understand what you're doing and

Trying to do that.

Yeah, yeah.

It's a forceful place. So I would change my funding. I'll change my full funding as well. I'm exactly the same as recently. So I'm glad you're here.

I'm wonderful with full funding.

Yeah.

And I frankly, anything that's got to be more unique ideas for outings in the city, right? That are not very well could become a traditional year. Thanks for this to mine.

It's

in the old town.

Yeah. I love it.

But it's not alcohol-focused. I know that a lot of people don't. They want just people to know.

Yeah.

I'm fine with it being cookie-focused. You know?

Perfect. Okay.

All right. Any others with four? Change of mind for five. Okay. Sure.

There's two more with or it's the Sherwood Community Speaker Series and the Sherwood Summer Jazz. What's our total down below? Total is $98,000. $28,000. $28,000 about? Yeah. Roll it over. Okay.

We already pulled the $20,000. Did they pull an additional 20%? No, I know, but that was the 20% we've already saved. Plus 20% for the past year. Okay.

All right, what do we have left at four? So the first one, it would be the Sherwood Community Speaker Series through the Chamber of Commerce. Right now we have four.

So we have David here, because I'd love to hear your thoughts on that. When I read it, I just wanted to know a little bit more what the goals of the series was. Was it to drive membership? Was it, you know, just understand a little bit about the role of the team.

Yeah, sure. My name is Dave Bergen. I'm the Executive Director of the Chamber of Commerce. And the goals are actually two or threefold. Number one, to pull in professional speakers that can provide a benefit to the community. So that benefit can range from anything like a community service to high-end business offerings. A good example of a speaker is Forgive me. I didn't know I was going to speak. What was the name of the astronaut, the female astronaut that did the party?

Tim knows, I'm sure.

Yes. I've written her and asked her to be a speaker. And that's a great example of the type of professional speaker we want to come in. And it also draws in people from more than Sherwood, which will spend money here, have lunch here, and Do community-related things. Does that address your question?

Yeah, I think it's great. I feel like we've got to do a proof of concept on this one. You know, I don't know that, frankly, I'm already a little bit hesitant as to whether Cruz and Sherwood is going to make its money. You know, and I know that was one of the ones on there, but adding this additional one, which sounds great, it's too pricey for my blood. I was hesitant about even giving it the $6,500. Can I address this as well? Yeah, you can, but if you're going to sell tickets, frankly, the city's goal is not to output more astronauts. I mean, that's great if they're inspired and everything. The Chamber's goal is to make the business owners better at doing business and all the other stuff, and so If you had somebody coming in saying, hey, how can you use AI to enhance your ad revenues and blah, blah, blah, whatever it is, and they can go home and do that and they find value in that, I'm all for it. I've never seen a keynote speaker that I've gone, oh, that's, like I'm always inspired by them, but I'm never like, oh, that's made my business better.

So is there any, I guess the question is, is there anyone else that wants to be a fifth vote on that one? What would six people do?

six grand do for the speaker series?

One speaker.

I'm good with one speaker.

It's an opportunity for a proven concept.

To change mine to six grand, nothing.

I'll go six.

I think we have consensus.

Now, we have four on summer jazz. Well, don't we? We're getting there.

Now, summer jazz is the next four.

Do we have anyone from the summer jazz?

We're at 104,000. So we still have about 22 more thousand-ish.

What do we got on summer? So some did parts, two did half, two did full.

Yeah. Yeah, my reason for doing half was just, I'm a huge believer in the arts and music and all this stuff. It just wasn't that many kids. And so I was like, you know, I know the band Boosters have some money. Yeah, we have a world-class band at the high school, right? And so we've got to feed into them and keep those kids engaged. That was my reason. motivation for giving them some money, but I also thought that the BAM boosters or somebody else could come up with some of that money as well.

That's true. They have a funding mechanism.

That was my thoughts as well. Great program.

I'd change mine to $2,500 if we settled on $2,500.

You okay with $2,500? I would as well.

Sorry, I had to take a walk.

All in favor of batteries, say aye.

I'm a lover of jazz, and I originally had said four, but I'll go with 2,500.

All right, where are we at on anyone with four?

One more, I think, was there at the top?

No, this had three. Now we'd be down to the ones with We have three with three. Three with three, yes.

What's our total?

We also can roll more over. Well, right now, the total is about $107,000. You have about $20,000 more.

So can we roll more? Can you roll up to the first Legion one? Yeah.

Is that the kitchen? The kitchen.

Oh, right here.

Yeah, prior choice, that one over in the backyard.

And the Legion did email Leslie and let her know that, you know, funding was tight, that they would, this is the preferred project, the kitchen over the backyard, if you were to, the committee were to fund. Yeah, I have one thing.

They, not last year, but years before, we gave them some money and they put it to great use over there and did a lot of great improvements, facilities. For anyone who's been over and seen the kitchen, it needs help. So I was more than happy to put some money down on that.

I used my same philosophy. As with the Elks, we just, we had funded so much of Allegiant.

Yeah. And the reason I was happy with the last one we did was because it was the outside of the building and it was a yard and the sign. And so even though I'm not a member there, it made downtown look better.

And so, but I would just argue that we did, we have funded stuff before. But they did take a year off, like we say in our guidelines. So they're following our guidelines as far as that goes. And it's another organization that does a lot of great work for veterans in our community, just amazing work. So I've been to events there, and I've watched how they struggle with that kitchen. But they make it work. But I thought it was a worthwhile project.

I think this would preclude them from a grant next year, however.

It would.

No.

I think we'll have two year off so they can do the next one.

Has there been a year off since? Yes. I thought it was last year.

We all thought it was last year. Submitted last year, just in case there wasn't enough applications, hoping that they could be considered, but they didn't.

Okay, so they don't violate the two-year rule? No. The sprinklers? Yeah, that was actually two years.

What else is three? I have some cruising right below us. So before we go, so there's no other takers on.

I'll do the follow-up for the kitchen.

Okay. I'll do one more vote.

I'll vote for it.

And then Renee would like to go back up to the Elks to talk about that one. Sorry. Dan, you said you'd vote for it. I just want to have three.

I don't remember it, but I wanted to take a look at it. I had a question.

I had a question for the final legion, and then I'm going to fund the Elks. I'm not picking and choosing.

Almost 20,000 of us, 6,800. So that, so that, so David, go back to the Elks, please. Please work with most of them.

Yes, so there's only two there. Yeah, so my question for you all, I don't remember, I don't have the paperwork in front of me, but I want to say that there wasn't a certain, sometimes you can give us a lesser amount that would help. Did you have a lesser amount or did the project have to be in total? I don't remember. Somebody's project had to be the total project or it wouldn't work.

No, we said we could have less.

Okay.

And this, I mean, it's a grant. We'll take it as much as we can get.

And then to really want to find out, I really appreciate what you said about the sale of the land. I've been a member there for again, 17 years. We've been trying to sell that land.

I know we're on round three. I'm on the building committee.

And the grant that we're seeking is for the ADA compliance. We're not ADA compliant right now. And so we want to make sure that we have wheelchair accessibility.

So that's the reason.

Additionally, I don't think that we can do anything in those bathrooms really at this point because they're out of point.

where our next step is we have to make them ADA compliant. So we can't really even do any improvements. Exactly.

If we do the improvements, it has to go, we have to do the ADA. So, and we want to, because we want to have them, the sensibility to.

It's not about cosmetic improvements.

Okay. And again, I haven't been in there in a couple of years, but when I went in there, it seems like there's a lot of things that need to be done. And so it kind of feels like...

But ADA is the important aspect here.

I understand, but it's a knock-on effect, right? It feels the same way with Allegiant.

So I'll change mine on this one to at least $10,000.

Their partial funding was $12,500. $12,500. I will do $12,500. I'll left-line to 12-5. David can't use his keys.

I know. I wish I could copy and paste to 12-5. You know, I would like to speak to the state of that building.

You know, you talk about, you know, building maybe being in extraordinary error. You can tell us about what we did with your grant.

the interior of that building.

So we got to the ones that actually had poop.

And then do we have one more? Yeah, I'll do it. Have we all, have we all, anybody's gone over our motion? You're right.

It's time to write up

He knows where he's at. We've been about $600. So we're, we're, we're, we're good there. I just want to confer because we only have four people at 12, five and one at 20,000 for the bathroom. Are we just in agreement that that'll be 12, five? Oh, and it fits with the total.

As long as it's, you can't go to the point where they could do it.

Yeah. You're a primitive here. Yeah. We're, we're pretty much there. And so these are all the projections.

You kind of, We skipped past two that have three votes, and we have one that had two votes. That doesn't seem right.

Do we have anyone here from a brand that hasn't had a chance to speak? We would come back to this, possibly. So make sure.

There's the Cruzen, I think, was the one we had with three. Yeah, we had three.

That old home mural.

They didn't do that one because they needed that money because it's sponsored for that. It seems. Oh, yeah.

This is for the main stage sponsors.

Yeah.

Yeah. So Cruzen was the one with three and the mural project was the one with three. Did you want to revisit any of those? I mean, right now you've awarded up to what we have.

I can take my three away from, actually take my three off of Cruzen.

Speak to the mural. Sure.

As I totally hear you concerned about, a few years ago, the commission received a grant from girls and those weren't saving food. We have a brand new arts commission who is on fire.

And I think we've got to get things made. So new leadership, fresh group of citizens.

Do we have a location for a mural?

We have two. But I, yeah, I didn't want to say for sure.

We can do it at once, but both want to do it.

Yeah. I don't know.

We're asking for a different.

Yeah, we have to be like two weeks. That's okay.

And I, so they've committed to having both locations. I don't have a design yet.

I have a suggestion.

Greg might have an answer for this.

I would just say if you guys want to fund the $7,500 for the town of Merrill, will this make it work in the budget disaster fund?

That's what I was saying. Like, don't we have the public arts fund?

If you guys want to fund it. If you want to fund it, yes. I definitely want to fund it. I feel like it has been... So we can do it outside of this...

That was really late. What else?

That was the last one with three, and we revisited the alternative.

I just want to ask one more time. Do we have any guests in the room that would like to speak about a project we haven't had a chance to speak about yet? No? Okay. I'm double-checking. All right. So it looks like we have a list, folks. We do? So we need to vote on this? I think that's it. process in this committee all right so all those in favor of approving okay down down 33.

Did you highlight the real? Sherwood Youth Festival Scholarships, low income.

And we only had two out there. Because my suggestion was going to be the one program, the Village Collective, we funded their full $23,000. And it is a new program without history. For some of these others, we'd say, let's give them a little to see if they get started. We could take from there. I'll go there. That's mine.

What else? I'm supportive of that because I didn't put anything towards the Village Collective.

I don't really connect them.

But keep it where you're at. I'm happy with what it is. All right.

And can you put the final amount up there so everybody can see it? All right. Sounds like we've landed. Congratulations, everyone. It's a tough year. I'm used to having more money than we need. So this is hard. But anyway, so all those in favor of approving the grant list is documented in the spreadsheet up on the screen there. Say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion passes. Congratulations. Thank you, everyone. And we are adjourned.

Thank you. And sorry about that.

Not your fault.