Town Council - Regular Meeting

I'm going to call the uh March 3rd North Province Town Council meeting to order. We can all rise personal to the flag and uh pledge allegiance. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

All right. Agenda item number one, acceptance of meeting minutes. discussion and possible action vote with regard to the acceptance of the meeting minutes for the meeting of February 3rd, 2026. Do I have a motion? So move. Second. All those in favor? I.

Item number two, zone change amendment. Town Council to consider approval of an application from Smith Realy LLC to amend article 2 section 203 use table of the zoning ordinance of the town of North Province to classify doggy daycare as a permitted use in the CPCV and CG districts only. This application was advertised in the Providence Journal on February 6th, 13th, and 20th, 2026 for hearing on this date. Anybody here speak on this? If you just identify yourself for the record.

Evening, Mr. President. This is uh My name is Jack McGreen. Um I'm the attorney with law offices at 21 Garden City Drive in Crans, Rhode Island, and I represent Smith uh Real LLC. Um you may recall we were here maybe a year and a half ago to permit a karate studio to be um put on this uh at this location. It seems that every time my client goes to do something there, there's no use uh listed in the zoning ordinance that would permit to rent to that type of person. So, I'm back again. He has a tenant that would like to rent a doggy daycare, put a doggy daycare at 1895 Smith Street. Um, it's my normal practice when I do something like this. I just don't do it for my client. Since there's no provision for a doggy daycare in the town, I I drafted the amendment, work with the uh planning board to uh to words smmith the language. Um they made some good suggestions. We went back back and forth a couple of times and that's what you have um before you a finished product that was approved by a 50 recommendation from the planning board.

Okay. Anybody have any questions? Yeah, go ahead. Uh, council. Um, a couple questions on this because I'm not completely sure on the on the how a doggy daycare is set up with with uh regards to the surrounding neighbors, what have you. There are obviously is do they have to have a kennel outside inside? What is the this it it addresses if there is one? It doesn't. My client isn't going to have an outdoor kennel, but if there is, there are there are some provisions in that ordinance. Um,

as far as having restaurants and food in sound, there has to be a uh a site plan drawn. It has to be approved, submitted to the town. Um there's um site plan in incorporate sound dampening features. If you go through the ordinance, that's that's that's put in there. There's uh limited um hours of operation. Uh has has the the site plan has not been drawn up yet? Oh, no, no. This is just a text amendment. So once this goes through, then my client would be able to apply for a doggy daycare, and he'd have to go he'd have to follow all the procedures that are set forth um in this ordinance um before he could uh get the license to operate at that location.

Okay. Any other questions, too? Uh No, I just I because I'm I'm thinking of that building as it's always been stymied by the parking there and how how how they you know what they laid that out with the uh as far as the the the site plan's concerned, but I guess that that'll be answered when we have that. I'm good. I got a question. You you said uh you said no kennel. You're not there's not going to be a kennel there.

Yeah. No, no. It's going to be an inside doggy daycare. But again, this applies to the entire town, not just my client. So, someone would be able to have an outdoor area for dogs, but they would have to comply with the uh restrictions set forth in the ordinance about um spacing 40 to 60 ft per small dog area, 70 to 100 square feet per large dog. Um you know, so it's it's it's pretty detailed actually. um one of the members of the planning board did a fair amount of research and and looked at other towns. Um I think South Kingston had a great um ordinance and and we uh we uh took a few of their ideas and incorporated into this ordinance. But um yeah, so there are rules and regulations and you're going to have to submit a plan talk about how to address noise issues, ventilation systems. Um there's an issue in here. uh if you're next to a uh we limited how the distance between if you did abut a residential area how many feet you have to stay I think it was 100 ft uh from the closest residential area um by you know from a direct you know because if you had a big for example if you had a huge stop and shop for example and the doggy gate daycare was on this end of the center um and the house was way over here so they're measuring from the house to where it's actually located rather than um you know in the center itself. So

is is there not houses all around it? Um this one uh I think there's residential uh near but we're far enough away and again mine's going to be completely interior on ML Spring Avenue. There won't be an outside area for the dogs. There's no overnight staying. Um it's the hours of operation according to the ordinance were I think 6:30 to 6:30. Um, so I do have one one question for for a doggy daycare. This may be a gross question, but as far as kennel waste and whatnot, are they how do they dispose of that in that type of a um I have no idea.

Well, I mean, just um stay out in the trash cans for a couple days, you know? Um I'm sure I'm sure they I I can't answer that question. Be lying if I did. I know how I take care of my dog. I have a waste basket and every week I uh bag it and put it in the garbage. All right. That's right. They probably do the same thing. I'm guessing next door neighbor probably go to the bathroom. Okay. Any other question? I think there was someone out there that had

Yeah, I'll Any u questions from the council? All right. Any members of the public like to speak on this? Why not? Please state your name and address for the record. Uh my name is Ed Fuulo. I own 1901 1899 Smith Street. Um I just heard about the kennel coming in and my concern is obviously the the noise and the dog waste. Uh my property is right abutz. There's a property in the back that is uh again buts his property and surroundings. So, they can say whatever they want as far as the sound and the waste, but there's definitely rules that that are implied where the dog's waste or the uh has to be um contained like NBC NBC would have to get involved and they would have to get a permit for the disposal of the waste. They just can't throw it in a container or put in a dumpster and it's going to stink and and and bring in rodents and so forth. As far as the noise, the noise can carry. So they they would definitely need um a strong acoustic uh a soundproofing system. And the other concerns I have like is the dogs I can't they can say that the dogs are going to remain inside. I don't believe that. I believe they got to take them out to get some air, walk them, uh set up a facility for them. Um they also he they they can they can patronize you and say they're going to do everything right, but the experience I've had so far is that um he's had um he put uh waste in front of his it wasn't it wasn't uh it was junk that sat in front of his building for 3 months that he didn't take care of and it just blew all over the place. I would put it back to where it was and then you would have garbage man come by uh people that would collect that stuff and take a little bit

at a time. That was three months. I mean we had six snowstorms. Now once he has each snow plowed the sidewalk for kids to walk away there's a a um a school crossing 50 ft away. So as far as being a good neighbor, a good business person to co-op with the town and be clean and respectful. He hasn't showed any of that. So, I understand the lawyers being very polite and and giving you the layout, but personally what I've experienced as a neighbor, he's he's been totally belligerent as far as anything that he's doing there. He just kind of does what he wants uh without any regard. So again, uh whether you pass it or not, I would just hope you can strenuously enforce with the noise, with the waste, and also I mean, if there's hopefully the the pets are going to be be humanely taken care of in there also. They just can't be cooped up. I would think they'd have to be taken outside and get some air.

I that's my my opinion. So, um I appreciate your time and I that's what I have to say on this. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Any other members of the public like to speak on this?

Hi, good evening. Kyra Sherman, um, owner of 1903 Smith Street. So, just I'm not going to, you know, beat a dead horse. Definitely waste management, the noise is an issue. Um, but I will say my concern as a parent, um, and also observing that crossing guard that's almost been hit several times by vehicles, um, that this will bring a lot more traffic to that area right there. Um, with it also being a bus stop as well, um, definitely brings some concerns as all the children being around, if a dog gets loose, um, being somebody that has also been bitten by a dog in the neighborhood doesn't give a good feeling to that. So just a concern of safety for the children um and reinforcing the snow pl I'm sorry I just he almost got hit by a car the other day. So the crossing guard. So just seeing due to the fact that the snow hasn't been removed and just the lack of care around the space. Um it's been really frustrating to see the poor like children literally walking through 3 ft of snow. Thank you.

Thank you. Anybody have any other questions? We We can't even have the owner come in first before we even do this. Just putting the cup before the horse. And I'm just say we Well, if he can't put it there, we're going to have him come up and and say what he's going to do and what's what and everything kind of, you know, see what's worth. But if we don't take care of this, then he can't, right? Or do we continue it so we can I'm only asking a question. I'm not Well, so I not in the form of a motion. No, no. I I think there are there are two issues with them. One is, you know, this is for a zone change amendment. Uh the landlord obviously is a different this is this is for a lease, right? It's not the landlord that trying to do

No, it's the there'll be a tenant that will be occupying the space. Yeah. And do you want to respond to any any of

Yeah. Just if if you look at the the end of the ordinance, it says we you know we have to come up with a detailed written narrative of the proposed methods of o odor suppression and also detailed written narrative of the proposed methods of waste collection and disposal. So all that stuff has to go through the town. They have to sign off on the plan before um anyone opens a business there. Um, we were considering maybe doing this by special use permit, but it seemed a little overkill to have to have somebody come before a zoning board or a planning board rather to to get a special use permit. So, in lie of that, we came up with this detailed requirements that every uh potential um doggy daycareer would have to go through um with the town in order to get the permit um come in with a plan, that sort of thing. So, um, it it I thought it was very detailed, as a matter of fact. Um, and, um, so, but it really has, although I'm I I can't speak for my my client that that the landlord, I don't know if he's been plowing it roads out there or not, but really that's a separate issue from this ordinance that affects the entire town, not not just my client.

That's kind of my concern. It affects the entire town. It does. So somebody could put it in a more not that that area is not condensed but somebody could also put one in a more condensed area also

right and that's why the planning board when we're going through this went through the analysis and the consideration of the distance between um uh commercial and residential areas and they they called out 100 feet um they called out um a sound you'd have to submit a site plan that would incorporate sound dampening features and present that to the town. Um there's also an existing noise ordinance in the town. So if there was a violation, they could be cited under the a noise ordinance if um someone thought that there was we talked about that. Why should we get into the noise ordinance issue in this section of the zoning ordinance when there's already an existing noise ordinance on the books? So um if people had a problem with noise, they could they could they could file a complaint under that section of the ordinance. And just so you know, my dog goes to a doggy daycare and it's inside. It's not outside at all. It's an exit. It's a It's a nice facility. Um everything's contained inside that. My dog doesn't go outside.

What's the proximity to the homes around the one that you take your dog to? Um it's an exit. So it's quite a distance. It's a it's a big distance. Thank you.

Yeah, exit is, you know, I think five acres zoning, but this is right on just south of the Shner Farm that um center down there. if you're familiar with the Dunkin Donuts and there there are residences in there, but they're probably two or 30 hundred feet away. Well, so uh I mean I I guess the one thing I'll say with and and I I know this is how it was presented and I'm I'm not necessarily sure I'm against it, but um when you have a special use, at least you have to go back before somebody and they have to approve whether the you know the plan is sound. I'm a little concerned when it's when it's um you know by right. I'm not sure who How would the process work? So they they would need to submit a a plan

plan to the building department and then the building department would have to essentially approve that before they issue the permit or the CO

the yeah the permit they would have to submit the plan. And just so you know I mean as you may know um the the state uh last year or the year before stated that going forward if a town wants to have a special use permit you have to have objective standards. So that's what we did before the planning board. We put together a set of objective standards that the people have to jump through before they actually um get the approval. So the site plan um the the spacing if it's residential um you know you have to address the issues of uh noise um collection of disposal the waste um and the the feeding areas, grooming areas if there is outside space. a screening. You'll see that's in the ordinance about the requirement of screening between uh uh between the where the dogs might be walking outside. But this isn't a kennel. This isn't an overnight kennel. This is, you know, daily only. It's not and it's not a vet. It's not treating animals or anything like that. We limit it basically for people that are working to drop their dogs off in the morning and pick them up at the end of the day.

Okay. Anybody else? uh from the public want to speak. Very good. All right. Uh so Lar, are we voting to accept the coming? Yeah. Come on up.

He's going to be the landlord, but there's a tenant going in there. Is this Does this guy already own another doggy daycare center? Is he already familiar with or is this is brand new? And where's this? Where's this? Where is this guy coming from or lady coming from that's open up this kind of what experience does she have? Does she have one? Does she have two? They just throwing they just throwing things. They had they want a karate studio. That didn't work. Now they want a doggy daycare. That sounds like a a safe name. What's the next visit they want to come up with? Like it seems like they're throwing stuff at the wall just to put something in this place. And there's really no plan. It's like a guessing game. Mr. Green would like to answer this. Um,

I believe the karate studio is still there. He's not he's he's filling the building. Um, as far as I know, I think the karate studio's they entered into a lease and it's still there. There'll be two businesses at that location. Yes. One upstairs, one downstairs or half and half. Um, again, I'm not I'm not sure the location, but um what was the other question he he raised? Um, that was before us. What about Yeah. I I don't I think this this person that this isn't their first doggy daycare. Um I know I believe they have another um I had the name of the tenant.

Uh yeah, doggy daycare LLC uh in uh yeah, so I think they do have another location. I don't think this is their first rodeo, but again, anybody could start a business tomorrow under a doggy daycare, come in. They would have to meet the requirements to the plans and it it would have to be signed off by the uh you know the building inspector or whoever does the uh review of the plans um to make sure that um they you know they run a proper uh doggy daycare. Sandy bottom road is what it says here. Sandy bottom road.

Yeah. So that I I know this is their first they've they're in business. They've been doing this before you You had made a point, Mario. It said the special use permit versus versus this. What What is the the layman's the layman's terms of what the the difference between the two are? So, we're not changing stuff to where you can just go for the special use. So, so the difference is is this is a is a zone change to making it a permitted use in the whole town. No, in in those certain zones. So there there are uh criteria that you have to meet.

Uh and the building department uh I mean that that's really who's going to have to kind of be overseeing this. If it's a special use, it's not permitted by right. You have to go to the zoning board and ask for a use variance or or the planning board depending on which which way you do it. Now the laws you have to ask for a use permit and under the new criteria, you have to have objective standards. you know, it can't be it's in the public's best interest or it fits in with the neighborhood. All that subjective stuff has been thrown out the wall. So, you have to be so many square feet. The building has to be X size. It has to so many uh you know, it has to be objective. So, people can say I can do it or I can't do it before they even come before.

No, I actually think it would look basically like this except it'll have an S instead of a Y. All right. Okay. Um, so but you know the the only other thing I'll say is that for better or worse doggy daycarees are not something that we regulate. So you know they're not going to have to come back before us. Uh it is what it is. There's a lot of businesses open up in town that don't come back before us. They're they're under the opaces of

either department of health or whoever. Yeah. I'm sure they're regulated by someone. I don't know who. Um, so you know, while we may not regulate it going forward, someone will. I again, I'm not sure who I don't think you can just open up a doggy daycare without having any oversight. But, you know, I I think the idea is we would be changing the zone. They would have to follow these particular provisions and they would be, you know, being watched by whatever department uh has oversight of that. Um, but it's our decision whether we want to change the zone or not. or not change the zone. I shouldn't say that. Change the

adding a use. I mean, this North Province's zoning ordinance is pretty sparse when it comes to permitted uses. It's just they haven't had a chance to address everything. Um, and this is just like a karate studio. You would think a karate studio, but they didn't have it. Doggy daycare, they don't have it. A lot of towns do have it, though. Um, so it's just another uh another use. So, we define the use. Yeah. and and we we do have a a planning board recommendation in our packet that is favorable.

We went back twice. So, I initially drafted some language. Um they took it and we continued it. A couple of members of the board did some research. We came back in and we spent probably an hour, an hour and a half like I'm talking to you right now actually going through it line by line and you know taking it. Someone was actually on his uh computer looking at some other audiences around the state and we we finally crafted this. Um and I I thought it was pretty good. And the business still has to come in front of us even with the planning board for final approval. No. Correct. The bill the business. Can we make it? Can we

Well, because you got you got concerns on the neighbors and that's what mostly you know. Well, so I mean the thing that you I suppose you could do, although you know, we're not approving a particular business. So, um, but but I I totally understand, you know, the neighbors concerns, you know, I guess you could ask the for the business to come in, you know, but it's again, you're not we're not making a determination as to whether this business should go there, whether this type of business should be allowed in these types of zones. That's that's the real question.

That's what the question is. It's not for that specific business just to change the text. So they're allowed in uh commercial village commercial professional and one of commercial Mario. Yep. So I have a question. So reading number five here. It is recommended that doggy daycare use provide an outdoor area for dogs. If an outdoor area is provided, it shall consist of sufficient size Mhm. with shelter and sun and rain fenced in and screened. Where would you put that there?

We're not We like I said, this covers all types of situations. So, if someone were to come into the town and they wanted to have outdoor space for the dogs, then they would have to qualify for this section. So, I try we try to address all um types of doggy daycarees. Some that are just inside and then if some has and mine doesn't, he's going to be inside only. Um, but there may be some doggy daycarees that do have outside space. And if they do, then they came they came up with a list of concerns and screening requirements and that sort of thing. If you were to have outdoor space for the dogs,

I guess I just don't know enough about it. I have I don't know much about it, you know. What are we doing? I'm just I'm I'm just spitballing in my own mind with what he's talking about too. And in as much as you're saying this particular doggy daycare is not going to do that, but I mean what if they decide halfway done, you know, it's a little crowded here. Let's let's put them outside. They would have to come in with a set of they would have to come in and present a plan a site plan that would that would meet the standards set forth in the ordinance.

Okay. And it did come with a positive from the planning board, right? So it's five to nothing. So it's

Yeah. I you know I I think our options are frankly to approve, deny. We could ask that it be changed to a special use instead of a permitted by a right or um I mean we could continue it but you I think we got to give some direction as to why you know what are we looking for what's going to make you know help us make our decision um you know but I would I can't make a motion I can't I can entertain motions Um, you know, the the other thing that I will say, I think when this goes to planning, um, the neighbors get notice of that as well. Did you guys get noticed when I went to planning as well?

Come on up. It's a It's a statewide um It's a townwide change, so there's not Oh, that's right. Yeah. It's not a 200 foot radius. No, you're right. So, but it's it's published in the in the uh that's how they got noticed for tonight's meeting. I apologize. Yeah, you're right. But that doesn't have to be just as an aside, I I did this townwide because I knew there wasn't a doggy care use. Um so, if this push back um but you know, I'll I'll just withdraw my request and go in just for my site alone. Yeah. Um, which I I I think as long as we're here and we worked on this thing, um, you know, the town should make a decision as to whether they want doggy daycarees in town at all.

No, I I get it. And we already have we have special those are those are grandfathered in grandfathered.

Yeah, those are all grandfathered. So, um, somebody coming in now doesn't have the right to do it at all because it's not a permitted use um, under the use ordinance uh, the definition section. So, um, you know, I, uh, you know, sometimes you say no good deed goes unpunished. So, I I did this for the benefit of the town, believe it or not. Figuring you might as well do it while we as long as we're doing it like I did for the karate studio. So, if um if this is if it's a townwide concern, um I I think you should have an audience for it one way or the other. Um then I I just my client would probably go in and just ask for his particular um Yeah. But I

did you have a question? Go ahead. And then and then I understand but if it's if they're going for a special use permit the neighbors would be have to be notified then correct. Yes. Yep.

Yeah. it was special use permit. But but like I said, we we talked about that at the planning board and it just seems like for somebody to have to go through that process um when you when it's just an objective standard criteria if you meet the objective standards, you know, why should you have to go through the process of opening a day doggy daycare and having to come before the the planning board? Um it seems like for this type of action, I thought it was overkill myself. that Donald Sal Kingston doesn't it's not a special use permit. They do the same thing. They set a set of criteria and then and like you said they are um there's a lot of oversight on these type of places um from other the health department those kind of places. So um to to have it also need a special use permit seemed to me to be overkill.

Understood. So this has not gone to the ordinance committee at all. Right. ordinance never has has nothing to do with what's transpiring right here for it but the amending but this ordinance actually been introduced yet so when that's when I do an or when I do a zone change because it's advertised twice I could put the ordinance on at the same time how Mark told me to do it from way back because it's advertised in the paper twice it's not even just on I mean the charter so we still have to introduce the ordinance and we officially into the record as an introduced ordinance.

Well, yeah. Yeah. I don't I don't think it meets a threshold. So, each ordinance under the charter would still have to be introduced and can't be but it was already advertised. I know the advertising component as it relates to the zoning. That's not how we did it before. So I I think the first step would be to introduce the ordinance, read the ordinance or dispense with the reading of the ordinance like we do for every other ordinance and then we can we can make a decision actually on the ordinance at tonight's meeting. We have to make it at the next meeting. I dis I just respectfully disagree. You can have the first reading tonight. You close the public hearing. You can have your first reading tonight. I agree with the second I agree we can do the first reading tonight.

Right. That's what I'm suggesting. So the first reading the introduction tonight will be the this is the introduction of the ordinance, right? And then would you have a second two week a second reading in in two weeks or whenever your next meeting? Yeah. So we would have to we just can't pass it in the same meeting that it's actually introduced. Yeah. I do it in Naragansa in some other towns. We always with it. So, so I'd like to make a motion to send it to ordinance if the audience hasn't read it yet. That's what I'd like to do. So So, okay.

Well, so hasn't been approved. Wait a minute. All right. All right. So, you want to send the zone change amendment to the ordinance committee. I have a motion. Do I have a second? Second. Okay. All right. Any discussion? I'm I'm sorry. I I just had a question in concerning I'm not familiar with your ordinance committee. Um what do they do that the planning board doesn't do already? Uh I mean review it. Yeah.

You the reviewer. Okay. Lack of a better term. Okay. Um, I I thought the ordinance committee was probably where they they come up with the ordinance. So, an ordinance change can be uh come from a private citizen like my client or it can come from the planning board or I'm assuming it could probably come from the ordinance committee. In this case, it's coming from the private sector and then it went to the planning board for um their review view and recommendation to this town council. I don't see going to an audit committee as the normal path. that's prescribed by by the the North Kingston zoning ordinance.

This is North Province. I mean, North Province. It's still an acceptable path. Amen. I still think being the first time that this ordinance is actually being introduced being tonight that I would ask that it be read and introduced for tonight and then it would have to be taken up for passage at a subsequent meeting. And and if we did a first reading tonight, we could still make amendments to it or Yeah. choose to not pass it or pass it at the at the next meeting. Right. As long as it's an open meeting, so you can make changes. Yeah.

All right. Why don't Why don't we We have a We have a motion and a second on the floor. We're still in the discussion period. Why don't why don't you come on up and and uh and let us know what you want us to talk about. Just two quick more things. Um just for it to be noted, I don't know how big 100 ft is, but I feel like that's like what maybe basketball court size

and there's not more than 100 ft before another residential unit. Um, and then also I purchased the property on 1903 Smith back in 2022 of January and that entire building has been vacant the entire time. There's no other businesses operating out of that building. There might be registered and paperwork, but it's been completely vacant. And the only other time I've seen individuals working there is over the summer. I think they pulled out some permits and they were installing new windows at about 10:00 at night. So if that can just be noted as well. Yeah. So yeah, my question is 100 feet to

it's 100 feet from the residential zoning district, not not a residence. Not the revenue. Right. That's what I'm saying. Is it from the from the door the corner of the building like if you look at the layout of the building. So even if you went from the front door was the corner of the lot that corner of the lots and bounds of the lot. From the front door by the way it went this her house right. No I agree this house behind. Yes. That's what I'm saying. So yeah. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Motion a second.

We have a motion in a second to send to the ordinance committee. I don't know if that's what we want to do or if we want to do first passage. I I would first just move to dispense with the reading of the on number two. Yeah. So, we get through two. All right. All right. Um to continue to or just send to ordinance because this was advertised three times for hearing on this date and otherwise I'm going to have to advertise it again before it comes back if it's not continued. Yeah. Yeah. So will So I'll make a motion to continue if that. All right. So we're going to make a motion to continue number two to the April meeting. Second. Do I have a second? All right. All those in favor? I

All right. Now we're going on to number three. Uh which ordinance 26 0002 uh 2Z an ordinance amend amending the town of North Providence's zoning ordinance article 2 section 203 use table. This item is connect is in connection with the previous zone change item. First of all, do I have a motion to dispense with the reading of the ordinance? So move. Is there a second? Second. All those in favor? I uh any opposed?

No. All right. Uh so now this one, do we want to do a first passage and then we can have a subsequent conversation in April? Do we What do we want to do? Make a motion to do that. Move to introduce it. All right. All right. So, do we have a motion to introduce the ordinance? So, move. Second. Second. All those in favor? I All right.

Ordinance. Do we Is that what we want to do? Do we want to send this to the ordinance committee? Do we want to just uh read it and then we'll take it back up in April? What do you Let's just take it back up. Yeah. Excuse me. Sorry. April would probably work best. Take back up in April. We can have another discussion about it. Decide what we want to do. Yeah. Right. Do we have to uh do we have to put it on? Do we have to make a motion to put it on? No,

because it's introduced. So automatically Okay. All right. So I don't think we need any more motions with regard to that one. All right. All right. Moving on to item number four, ordinance 26 0001Z, an ordinance amending article 2, section 213, design standards with regard to hardscapes maximums for residential zones. Uh, do I have a motion to dispense with the reading? So move. Second. Second. All in favor? I. All right. Uh, do I have a motion to introduce? So move. This one is these are Was it on?

Yeah, these were on to be heard. The rest of them that the first one was not. Okay. All right. So, this was introduced last last meeting. Yeah. All right. Do we have a motion to approve? Pass. So moved. There's a second. Second. All those in favor? I.

All right. All right. Item number five, ordinance 260003, an ordinance amending chapter 19, article 10, section 182 of the code of ordinances of the town of North Providence, entitled no parking generally to provide for certain parking restrictions on Metcaf Avenue. I make a motion to approve.

Motion to adopt. Uh second. All those in favor? I should have lost the next thing. All right. Number uh number six ordinance 260004 an ordinance amending chapter 19 article 10 section 182 code of ordinances of the town of North Province entitled no parking generally to provide for certain parking restrictions on Oregon Avenue. Is there a motion to adopt? Second. Second. Seconded by Council Laorio. All those in favor?

I I right. Number seven, Ordinance 26005, an ordinance amending chapter 19, article 10, section 182 of the code of ordinances of the town of North Province entitled no parking generally uh to provide for certain parking restrictions on Heritage Circle. Is there a motion to adopt? So move. Second. Second. Seconded by Council Mal. All those in favor? I.

All right. Number eight, uh, agenda item eight, ordinance 260006, an ordinance amending chapter 19, article 10, section 182 of the code of ordinances of the town of North Providence entitled no parking generally to provide for certain parking restrictions at the annex of Cross, Clark, and Wright Streets. Is there a motion to adopt? Motion made by council Porchio. Is there a second? Second. Second by Councilman Mccala. All those in favor? I.

All right. Number nine, class BV liquor license. Notice given of a public hearing to be held on this date in the Providence Journal on February 13th and 20th, 2026 for new class BV liquor licenses for Centino Sports Group, DVA, the Golf Connection 1527, Smith Street, North Province, Rhode Island 02911. If you could uh give your name and address for the record. Sure. Uh John Mitch Centroio. Uh my home address is 5 Woodrest Drive, John Sard Island. Okay. And uh has everybody looked at the paperwork? Uh he was here before us last week. Anybody have any follow-up questions? How long does the bill go? When are you going to get done? Come on, let's go.

Uh we hit a little tiny red pickup, but uh it's uh it's all good. Everything's going forward and uh unfortunately uh we were very aggressive for April. We're shooting for June now. So good because the snow's still going to be on the ground. I agree. Hurry up with that thing. Okay. Motion to approve. Any uh any members of the public here speak about this? No. I'll make a motion to approve. So motion made by Councilman Dorenzo, seconded by Council Laorio. All those in favor? I look

I know the time I know the timing is not what you wanted, but good luck. Thank you. All right. Number 10, peddler vendor license. Town council to consider a vote for the approval of a peddler vendor license for a mobile food truck for Kimberly Fuokco uh Kimy's Dirty Pop Soda Shop, One Deborra Court, West Warick, Rhode Island 02893. You could identify yourself for the record. Kimberly Foco, one Deborra Court, Westwalk, Rhode Island. All right. What do you plan on doing? Selling dirty soda. What's dirty soda? Okay. What's dirty soda? Hook us up with this soda. A can of soda. Um, flavored syrups and then half and half, believe it or not. Good. Really? Sounds like something from Lever and Shirley. Something from Utah. Utah.

Yeah. Yeah. They're delicious. Milk and Pepsi. You uh do you have anything lined up as far as where you're going to be going in North Pro? I've been asked to do North Providence High School already in North Providence. A few other schools and stuff, but I did get um asked to go to North Providence High School. I don't know when. Soon, I'm hoping when the snow melts. Yeah, me too. I want to try dirty soda. So, yeah. But so, let me uh formally invite you to the Sanado Festival. I would love to do that. So, I will give you my number. Oh my god. Um and uh we'll try to get you in. Awesome. Thank you. All right. Yes. Let's approve it first. All right. Yeah, Steve, you putting a cop.

Any any members of the public here to discuss this item? All right. No hearing seeing none. Uh do I have a motion? So move. All right. Motion by Council Mala, second by Counciloman Morio. All those in favor? I. Thank you. Good luck. Number 11, pawn broker license. Town council to consider a voting for the approval of a pawn broker license for Rich McKascal LLC, DBA Reliable Ricks, 987 Charles Street, North Province. Hi. I know. If you could just state your name for the record. Richard McKascal. Uh 13 Cherrywood Drive in Greenville. and I'm renting the spot at 987 Charles Street. All right. And uh what's your plan?

My plan is to uh to get open as soon as possible. I've been in the business for uh 20 years in Providence, family business. And um all the old folks retired and I'm not quite there yet. So going to keep going. All right. And is is your place in Providence Reliable Ricks, too? No, that was Reliable Jewelry and Loan. Keeping it totally separate. And Rick is my dad, so I'm naming this one after him. Okay. Nice. Uh what are your uh planned hours of operation?

Hours of operation would be um Tuesday through Saturday. Um probably like 9 to 6. I'm thinking of feeling it out to see, but it would be in that range half hour here or there. Um Sundays uh we can't be opened. It's part of the state laws that we're closed and probably just have Mondays off as well. Okay. So state law Sundays off. Sundays off. Good. You can gam you can gamble on Sunday but you can't porn anything on Sunday. I think I think that old rule was like back to the old liquor store rules and everything. You can drink and you can I don't want to work Sunday, but you can't porn if you need money. That's right. Have to wait to gamble until Monday now. Yeah. This is the old Gladio K9 building. Yes.

Anybody have any other questions? No. Motion to approve. All right. Uh motion made by Councilman. Second. Second by Councilman Leaportio. All those in favor? I I Good luck. Good luck. Thank. All right. Number 12. 24-hour license. Council consider approval of 24-hour license for Laundromax 1057 Merl Spring Avenue, North Province. This applicant's second attempt to get a 24-hour license in the last three months. Uh, okay. What's your name and affiliation, please? Hello. My name is Jasmine Santos and I'm the district manager for Laundromax. Okay. And this is the this is the new one on the corner of Mineral Spring and Charles.

Yes. Okay. What hours you have any questions? What what hours are you open now? 6:00 a.m. to 12:30 a.m. because the sign's still up that says open 24 hours. Yeah. So, I'm sorry, Mr. Yeah, I got it. Yeah. So, I know we haven't been granting 24-hour licenses, and there's been another laundry mat that's next door to you that came in front of us for 24-hour license within the last few months, and we denied that one also. We actually gave him until midnight. Okay. So, I do have a question. Okay. Um, how many customers are you expecting during, say, midnight to 4:00 a.m.?

Yeah, we are uh pretty busy. Uh I would say around like 15 customers sometimes throughout that four hour time span. Yeah. Um yeah, give or take. That's at the other location, not this one. Uh that's for Smithfield because we've never had we're not open 24 hours in the province yet. Smithfield a How many? So that's around. Oh, okay. Thank you. So the other one on Mal Spring, that's not 24. No. Okay. Anybody have any other questions? No problem. Uh, anybody prepared to make a motion? I'm going to make a motion to deny it due to the fact that we haven't been granting 24-hour licenses and we recently did not grant the other location near you 24-hour license. So, I want to stay consistent with that.

I'll second the motion. Okay. Motion made by Councilman Pock, seconded by Councilman Fiola. Uh, all those in favor? I. Any oppos? All right. Sorry. That's okay. Thank you. All right. The number 13 location for transfer uh s Alex Jackson DBA 360 venue to appear to have uh to advise council as to whether or not he's found a new location to transfer his liquor license to. I don't see uh Alex Alex Jackson here. Um I guess I would entertain a motion to to So I have a question.

Yeah. Go ahead. So my question is Alex Jackson uh never really opened up in that spot. Am I correct? No. So does he still have a liquor license? And that's how does that happen? Because they have up to the year. Is it still a full year Mario that they can hold a license when it's granted? Like as Mitch for instance, just to use you as an example, no offense, he's getting his license approved tonight. Okay. He could pick it up tomorrow if he had all the work done and not still not open today. I I understand that. But okay. So who who uh he he never opened? No. I mean he he never did.

We approved the liquor. We never approved the entertainment. He he's been holding it. He's been holding it ever since and he was doing the work. This is the point I'm trying to make. He has he's got a liquor. I don't not necessarily it could be anybody but he has a liquor license that he's never opened that he's been on hold now for god knows how long and he keeps that until someone deems I I would like to make a motion just to pull it back and give it to the town he can apply again if he opens up another location and does what he point I'm trying to make probably there could be a business out there that's getting ready to open that cannot open with a local license I make a motion to pull it we don't have any on the list right now but yes you understand my point Yeah. No, again,

but we added all those licenses and that helped us with the list, right? So, but now there'll be one one I'm trying to think um of what Well, he did notice. Not to interrupt you, chairman, he did come here. We did put him on notice that we needed the license and we gave him three more months to find a location. The 3 months is up. He's not here. Now whether he called and said he couldn't make it or I don't know but there's not many places in town we all know he's not going to find in here that size to what he's got and then the liquor license.

So when uh because that place went on for a good couple of years I would say that he was trying to get it all straightened out trying to get a liquor license. Couldn't get approved. So on and so forth. Um how long has it been since we gave him that liquor license? Not quite a year. Just about a year. Yeah. just about close to a year. So that's why he gave it to And who and who uh deems it to be a year? Somebody applied and we gave it to him. But when we say you're approved No, no, no, no. Is it an ordinance? The law the law of Rhode Island not this.

Okay. So that means that a liquor license is actually transferable from a place to a different place two miles down the road. It's transferable. So the liquor license goes with the person, not the business that it's in. He can he can move it to another location. It would be a transfer of local. Yeah. He would still have to go through it. So if you had a an existing business y you can and you want to move to a different spot, you can do that. But suppose you didn't have an existing business. Can you still do it? What do you mean you don't have an but you have a license? No, he has that license is is his. He was granted in that business. Did you understand what I just said?

Yes. But he did open he did open a corporation and did get a license. Never a license. But he never opened the facility that he was intended for. But he's still good. He formed the LLC. He got the license. He never opened up. That's what we have. Yeah, it's what he did. I make a motion that we pull pull the license back. All right. So, after a brief conversation with my legal counsel, our legal counsel, uh he thinks it would be prudent. So, what what we have is we have a license that was granted but not issued, right? That is a that is an actual thing that is described in the law. There used to be a one-year period that you had to satisfy the conditions of your license. DBR took that provision out. Mhm.

So theoretically, and and I haven't seen anybody challenge it, although I know of a case in Cranston where somebody held a license for like 3 years. They were they had one, they moved, they were they were attempting to move. The buildout took significantly longer because COVID hit and um and and they they held the license without a location for like 3 years and DBR removed that one-year restriction. So, in in my conversation with Charles, I think what makes sense because theoretically there could be a a some sort of an interest in a granted but not issued license. We put it on for next month with notice to him saying that the license is going to be revoked as probably too strong of a of a term because it was never really issued. But a license the the grant of the license will be rescended uh unless and until he well if he unless he comes in and gives us a reason why we shouldn't. So I would entertain a motion to continue it with notice to Alex Jackson that the license may be rescended uh at the next meeting.

So moved. All right. Is there a second? Second. All those in favor? I. Any opposed? All right. All right. Number 14, technology fee. Police Chief Rogerro would like to address the town council concerning a $2 technology fee that can be applied to all tickets. Um, good evening. Uh, the colonel sends his apologies for him not be able to able to make it. He asked to uh

speak on his behalf in regards to this. Um, the colonel is requesting uh an amendment, I guess, to uh an ordinance where we would add a $2 charge uh technology search charge to our um summones issued under the uh town of North Providence Municipal Court. Uh these uh monies would be used for technologies, computer programs and monitors, printers and other things uh used to run a municipal court. Okay. Yeah. I think we send this to the ordinance committee. Yep. Motion to send it to the ordinance committee. All right. Motion made by council ma, seconded by councel chair. All those in favor.

All right. Great. Go to go to 17 so we can say Yeah, sure. Uh number seven, uh we're going to skip to number 17. Uh time parking on Steven Street at XL Academy. Councilman Dorenzo request discussion and possible vote on putting time parking on Steven Street at XL Academy. All right, Councilman.

So, uh Kevin, thank you so much for taking the time when we went. Um you did a great job doing that. So XL Academy, if you're coming in out of Cado, you go down Monast Avenue, you take a right to XL, which is Steven Street. on the right hand side in the morning there are people who are parking there. Buses are having a little bit of a tough time dropping off kids. So what I'm proposing at this point along with uh Kevin who was with me along with Chief Agerro as well uh we'd like to make it a no parking on the right hand side of the street from 7:30 to 3:00 during school hours. So sometime it won't apply but during school hours from 3 from 7:30 to 3:30.

That's correct. on the north side of uh Steven Street um which was the uh the school. So school buses could line up right and also allow traffic uh from uh Seno A in Aldridge Street to exit right and also so Kevin because you know I never really measured it. It's probably you're probably we're probably looking for maybe 125 150 ft of uh I would guess of of no parking. Correct. No parking just during school hours. Just yeah approximately about 125 ft. Okay. Would this would have to go to audience committee too, right? This would have to go to ordinance. So I'll make a motion to send it to the audience. Second.

All right. Motion made by Councilman Darenzo, seconded by Council Mala. Uh all those in favor. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Uh we'll go back to 15. Number 15. Uh pre president prom. Uh, council president Odell request discussion possible vote on appointing president proemp replace Stephano family resign from the council to take a seat state senator district 4. Make a motion to continue this the next meeting. Yeah. Motion to nominate. No, we're going to we wanted to move it to Oh, we're going to move first. Get a full. All right. Uh, so motion to uh continue to next month. All right. Uh, miss motion made by Councilman Pollock, seconded by Council La. All those in favor? I

I All right. Uh number 16, town council meetings for 2026. Council President O request discussion possible vote with regard to the dates of the remaining regularly scheduled monthly town council meetings for calendar year 2026 and a possible amendment change to those dates. Why don't we continue this one too? So that one there we can yeah July the July meeting for the July meeting. July meeting. Yes. So we have no July meeting usually. All right. So, uh, so this is would be to, uh, cancel the July meeting, correct? Do I have a motion? Motion. So, so move. Second. Second. All right. Motion made by Councilman McConnell, seconded by Councilman Dorenzo. All those in favor?

All right. Number 18, town council to discussion action with regard to the appointment to made to the following board. Uh, new appointment historic district commission. agenda. So, looks like we have a letter uh which I will read into the record uh from Vincent Jericho. Is Mr. Jericho here? Okay. Uh dear Miel, I'm writing to express my interest in a position on the historic district commission. I am an anti antiquarian orological restorer. And I don't know what that is. That's an antique prison.

All right. And I have a keen sense of the need to preserve and safeguard all elements of our historic material culture and in particular the history of our state, cities, and towns. I feel my experience makes me a strong fit for the position as I am an effective communicator having written multiple peer-reviewed articles on the various aspects of antiquarian orology as well as having lectured on the same subject. It would be an honor to serve our community in this capacity. Thank you for your time and your consideration. We also have a letter uh from the chairperson of the historic district commission uh James Laughler. Dear Mr. Guardiello. I am writing to endorse the request submitted by Mr. Vincent Jericho. I believe his membership will be of benefit to the historic district commission. Do I have a motion to approve?

I'll make a motion to approve. I'll second that. All right. Motion made by Councilman Dioro, seconded by Councilman Pollock. All those in favor? I know.

All right. Number 19, Our Lady of Fatima Hospital. Discussion and possible vote on the sale of Our Lady of Fatima Hospital. I have a question. Sure. What's going on? Yeah. So, the only thing I know is there is some discussion going on with regard to the payment of taxes and whether they're going to get paid and how they're going to get paid. So, I would request um at this point, and I think we can to uh and it may already actually be on it as a standing item, but uh make a motion to send this to the finance committee uh so that we can have a discussion, maybe get some people to come in.

I make a motion to send it to finance. Second. Motion made by Councilman Dorenzo, seconded by Councilman Ball. All those in favor? Yeah. Yes. Keep it on keep it on the this agenda. All right. All right. Number 20. Claims submitted. Town council discussion and possible vote with regard to the claims received from the following. Leona Mainville, 91 for Drive, Brooklyn, Connecticut. Attorney Jeffrey Toa for Jennifer Bingham uh 78 Kenwood Street, Cranston, Rhode Island. And Troley, 20 Vivian Avenue, North Province, Rhode Island. Juan Oavdo, 10 Vario Street, North Province, Rhode Island. Do I have a motion to send these to? So moved. Thanks committee. Made by Councilman McColl, seconded by Councilman Plet. All those in favor? Okay. Do I have a motion to adjurnn? So move.

So move. Second. Made by K, second by Councilman Lorenzo. All those in favor? Hi. Hi.