City Council - Regular Meeting

Tuesday, January 6, 2026
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Government Body
City Council
Meeting Type
City Council
Location
North Platte, NE
Meeting Date
January 6, 2026

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175 sections (from 591 segments)

16:55 – 17:190

We get some a lot of snow, you know. You'll complain, but a lot of the other people be praising me, so Oh, boy. I've never had to water my lawn in January before, but I did the other day. Yep. I've never seen so much concrete before. That's right.

17:16 – 18:000

I know. Unbelievable. Got a houseful tonight. Did you pick up your cap?

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Yeah, I did. Nice. It is a nice cap. Yeah, I'll wear it. Look like a hat. No. Incognito. [clears throat] Yeah. [laughter] I don't believe that.

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Good evening everyone. Welcome to North Flat City Council meeting here on Tuesday, January 6, 2026 at 5:30 p.m. Of course, we're here in the city council chambers calling the meeting officially to order. We have an invocation by Alex Shimik from Marinath the Bible Camp. Alex, if you'd approach the microphone for us, please. Oh holy God, we've come to you this evening. We thank you for the ability to serve our community in such a capacity as this. But I pray for wisdom, for strength, and for love for all people who sit on this board. Lord, that they would encapsulate what you taught us to love each other well and to put our neighbors first. Pray us all in your holy and amazing name. Amen. Amen.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you everyone. Angie, the roll call, please. here. Here

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thank you. A current copy of the open meetings act of say Nebraska is posted on the wall at the back of the council chambers. Meeting procedure. The public may address specific agenda items. The pleasure of the mayor. If recognized by the mayor, please identify yourself by stating your name and address. Please address the council through the mayor and limit your remarks. We respect our city employees and requests that any complaints or criticisms of the employees aired, excuse me, of employees not be aired in a public meeting. Concerns about employees should be brought to the attention of the city administrator or the mayor. Individuals in violation will be declared out of order. The awards and accolades and presentations section tonight where have the great honor to swear in not only some policemen but also firemen. And there was a significant debate today about what which group should go first. [laughter] Uh, and we decided on letting the firemen go first. So, uh, Mr. Trip, if you would come up here to the front, please. And I have to get my technology going here. Excuse me. Just come right up here in front. Turn around. Face the

20:53 – 21:360

[clears throat] Kevin's supposed to tell me if this is not working. So, I guess we're going to be okay. Okay. This is a little bit long. So, that's your copy. I'm going to try and stand over here out of the way of the camera. Okay. So, you're reading to them, not me. All right. [laughter] Levi Trip, please hold your right hand. I say your name. I be my trip. Do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the duties and responsibilities of a firefighter for the city of North Plat, Nebraska to the best of my ability. Do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the duties and responsibilities of firefighter city of North Plat, Nebraska to the best of my ability.

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I pledge to serve the people of North Plat with honor, courage, and integrity, placing the safety, and well-being of the community above all else. pledge to serve the people of North Plat with honor, courage, and integrity, placing the safety and well-being of the community above all else. I will perform my duties with dedication, respect, and a steadfast commitment to the up to upholding the laws and regulations governing the fire service.

21:58 – 22:250

I'll perform my duties with dedication, respect, and steadfast commitment to upholding the laws and regulations governing the fire service. I will respond to emergencies, both fire and medical, with a clear mind and a steady hand, working as part of a team to protect lives, property, and the environment. I'll respond to emergencies, both fire and medical, a clear mind and a steady hand, working as part of a team to protect lives, property, and environment.

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I will strive to continually improve my skills and knowledge and to act with compassion and professionalism in all circumstances. I will strive to continually improve my skills and knowledge and act to act and to act with compassion and professionalism in all circumstances. I will be a guardian of public trust, holding myself to the highest standards of ethical conduct and accountability. And I will honor the legacy of those who have served before me, passing on the values of service, sacrifice, and respect to those who come after. So help me God. I will be a guardian of the public trust, holding myself to the highest standards of ethical ethical conduct and accountability and will honor the legacy of those who have served before me, passing on the values of service, sacrifice, and respect to those who come after me. So help me out.

23:10 – 23:500

Thank you. Congratulations. Good job. Stay stand. Well, I really hope there's not a bank robby in North Flat tonight. All right, come on up. Policeman, please. You guys are facing the audience this way, please. This one is a little shorter.

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Guys probably got nervous right now. [clears throat] Todd, I have a sheet of paper for you.

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Oh, that's good. Okay. While they're doing that, um, officers Kyle Norman, Preston Beller, Isaiah Estrada, and Caleb Bombberger graduated on December 18th w with the 221st basic training class at the Nebraska Law Enforcement Training Center in Grand Island. The officers successfully completed 16 weeks of training and received their Nebraska Law Enforcement Certification. For the [snorts] next 14 weeks, they will complete the North Plat Police Department field training program prior to being assigned to a shift. So, you'll be seeing them with somebody else for the next 14 weeks. After that, look out. Just kidding. Okay. Thank you guys for being ready. Please raise your right hands. Thank you for holding the mic there. [clears throat]

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I state your name. I do solemnly swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution and the laws of the state of Nebraska. to do solely swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution laws of the state of Nebraska. that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same and defend them against enemies foreign and domestic. That I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same and defend them against enemies foreign and domestic. And that I will faithfully and impartially discharge the duties of a peace officer to the best of my ability. So help me God. and I will faithfully and impartially discharge the duties of a peace officer to the best of my abilities. So help me God.

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Excellent. Congratulations. I want to thank you SO wants a picture before we let them go. Thank you, gentlemen. Congratulations, guys. Thank you. Wonder. Yeah.

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[clears throat] It's always a great honor to get to swear in policeman environment.

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Yes. Deal. Okay. All matters under the consent agenda are considered by the city council to be routine and will be enacted by one motion. Any city council member may however remove an item from consent by request. I'm going to read all these as there are several and then Lane has a couple quick comments before anybody makes a motion. So please just pause for a second, let Lane state his comments. Thank you. One, a, approve the minutes of December 16th, 2025. B, send the application of of Ronald Axtel as liquor license manager to Fraternal Order of Eagles number 2839 located at 620 North Chestnut Street to the Lincoln or excuse me, to the Liquor Control Commission with no recommendation. C. Approve the application by Aiden Enterprises LLC DBA Southerntherland Longhorn Bar for a special designated license on March 2026. March 20, 2026 from 4 pm to 12:30 a.m. at the DNA Event Center, 501 East Walker Road for the Ducks Unlimited banquet. D. Appoint Brent R. Berkeland of TC Engineering as a city street superintendent from January 126 through January or excuse me, December 31, 2026. Approve the resolution to excuse me, E. We approve the resolution to apply for the purchase of a small bus for the North Plat Public Transit with 80% funded through federal transportation assistance program, 10% funded through the state transportation assistance program, and 10% funded through the city of Northplat funds. F approve the purchase of two semi-trailers for the sanitation department from Mac Waste trailer, Inc. using source well contract pricing in the amount of $264,414 and authorize the mayor to sign all

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necessary documents. G. Accept bids and award contract for one 2026 3/4ton ton 4x4 crew cab diesel pickup for the electric department from Pony Express Chevrolet in Goththingberg, Nebraska in the amount of $66,542 and authorize the mayor to sign all necessary documents for the city. H accept bids and award contract for one 2026 3/4tonon 4x4 regular cab pickup for the electric department from Cowboy Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram in Cheyenne, Wyoming in the amount of $39,241 and authorize the mayor to sign all documents for the city. I accept bids and award contract for one 2025 Nissan light duty pickup for the water department from Bill Summers Ford in the amount of $34,694 and authorize the mayor to sign all documents for the city. J. Accept bids and award contract for two 2026 1- ton 4x4 crew cab cap gasoline long bed pickups for the water department from Pony Express Chevrolet in Gothberg, Nebraska in the amount of $125,620 and authorize the mayor to sign all documents for the city. K. Accept bids and award contract for 1226 Chevrolet 1- ton 4x4 double cab gas pickup for the wastewater department from Pony Express Chevrolet in Gothber, Nebraska in the amount of $47,160 and authorize the mayor to sign all documents for the city. Lane,

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I'd just like to clarify on these vehicles, we did go to the um [clears throat] bid process and receive bids from five different vendors. And after going through each one, these were the best prices on each of the different vehicles that we bid out. And the differences to the next ones up were fairly substantial. That's why we went with the lowest vehicles all the way around. As far as those sanitation trailers, there's only a couple manufacturers that make those. And so even though that's a vendor out of Ohio, that's about as close as we can get to have the same trailers as we have currently. So, I just wanted to clarify that all the um spec specifications were followed and that we went to the bid process for these items. Thank you.

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No, we we got that clarified. Ed, [clears throat] Mr. Mayor, I move that we approve the consent agenda as presented with the exception of letter E and letters J and uh letter K. Second motion by Raker, second by Vols to approve the consent agenda pulling E, J and K. calling the question. [clears throat] So approved. Ed.

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Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, letter E, I I just wanted to vote separately on that. Um, letters J and K, I I'm curious. Um, under J, we've got two one ton pickups for $125,000, roughly 6025 for pickup. And under letter K, we've got one one ton pickup, 4x4 um for $47,000. I'm wondering why there's so much discrepancy between those.

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The differences are the the boxes that we have on them. the um we have the uh utility boxes on two of those and then the lift lift gates on the back of them. So it's about 15,000 a piece on the difference. I wondered I thought that may be the difference. Okay, thank you so much. That was my those were my questions. Thank you. Are we trading trucks in or what are we doing with the old vehicles?

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Most times the old vehicles those get passed down to our street and parks and other departments. Okay. And so we found that, you know, the trade in value isn't as great as if we would just keep those and use those in other [clears throat] departments that maybe don't have the same strenuous as these departments have on after they've kind of greased their life. So it's it's a good pass down for the taxpayers on that. Yeah. No, that makes sense. I just wasn't sure if these prices included tradeins or not. Okay. Ed Lane, thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, so eventually we get the ones that you pass down and are passed down and are passed down. you come to the end, what what happens to them?

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We put those on for um auction on our public service public surplus site and normally get fairly decent prices out of those. So, okay. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I were Were all of these items planned for in the budgeting process or are any of them the result of something unexpected that's occurred? No, they were all budgeted items. So, we have cash cash for the ones at the utilities departments and the um trailers for the sanitation department will be a later date for a lease purchase agreement. Thank you. Other questions or comments? Um

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Ed, do you want to do one of these separately or what? You said you wanted to vote on E separately. So, I wanted to vote on E separately. Mr. Mayor, I move that we vote on letter E on the consent agenda. Please second. [clears throat] Motion by RER, second by Lucas [cough] on letter E. Calling the question on letter E. Letter E is approved. Mr. Mayor, I move that we uh vote on the remainder of the consent agenda.

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Second. Motion by RER, second by Flanders. following the question on letters J and K from the consent agenda. These are approved. [clears throat] Okay. Moving on to the regular agenda. Number two, authorize mayor to sign agreement with Oak Creek Engineering to perform the required bridge inspections for the city of North Plat. Mayor, I move that we uh Sorry, I need number two. I I can do it. Okay. Mr. Mayor, I move to authorize mayor to sign agreement with Oak Creek Engineering to perform the required bridge inspections for the city of North Plat.

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Second. Motion by Lucas, second by B. Where is Brent? Brent, you want to give us a 30 seconds on what we're doing here and then answer any questions. But good evening, mayor, council. Um, we've had Oak Creek Engineering do our bridge inspections for the last several years. This is an update on NDOT had some requirement on their paperwork side. It takes about another half hour bridge to do. So, this contract is slightly updated in cost. It's not a significant jump, but it reflects that extra half hour bridge cost. That's what

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And the other day you explained to me the frequency with which we check our bridges. Would you talk about that for a second? Um, generally we do most Thank you. we do most of them every other year. Um, Buffalo we have on a four-year because it's a newer bridge. Um, based on the inspections, it affects the um, inspection if we do them annually, bianually or every four years. So, Questions for Brent. Ed. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Brent, does this include the bridges on Rodeo Road? Also, there's I think one there by the the school that's the Baptist school there.

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No, it's only the city owned ones, not on the state system. Okay. So, Rodeo Road, you mean Highway 30, right? That would be NDOT's bridge. And then a question that I don't know whether it pertains to this particularly or not to the last assessment but on the willow u it seems like didn't we just did some work on that. Correct. Correct. I don't know what they're called. The the expansion joints tapered end on the bridge railing. The concrete tapered end on the bridge railing

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on the on the north end or the south end. Okay. We've got we've got a pretty substantial piece of that concrete that's gone and I'm wondering why that didn't get repaired. We talked about we we looked at it a couple different things with that as far as how it was going to be repaired and if it would stay. I mean to fix it right, we'd almost have to cut the whole thing off and rebuild it. And we didn't feel like it because if we did a patch on that, I don't know if it'd stick very long. So that was the discussion, okay, that we didn't feel like it was a structural concern with the bridge. It would still function with for the traffic

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and to fix it was going to be really expensive and we wouldn't get much benefit out of it. So that was the thought process. Okay. Well, that that makes perfect sense to me. Thank you. Other questions or comments? Seeing none, calling the question on item number two, please. Item number two has passed. Thanks, Brent. Item number three, adopt the resolution to approve the Oops, Brent's back. Adopt the resolution to approve the 1 and6 road plan for 2025 through 2031. Mr. Mayor, I move to adopt the resolution to approve the 1 and sixyear road plan for 2025 through 2031.

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Second. Motion by B, second by RER. Brent, you have the floor.

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Angie, would you be able to switch me over? Thanks. It's on the dual screen. Try again. [clears throat]

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[cough]

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Okay, it's a little hard to read on the screen and hopefully the folks at home can see it. Okay, and if not, you can contact our office and we'll get you a copy you can look at. Um, I'll kind of do a highle summary, a little bit of what we had presented at the public hearing back in December. Um what you have before you [clears throat] is what we're look what we call the one year which what we're looking at a year ahead and a year behind. The year ahead is the plan which is shown in red and the way the computer works I'll just scroll from top to bottom. It seems like it would be the best way to work. So as we focus on the top and I also have it over here in the audience to you can look at the bigger size. It's about the same size as the screen, so be comparable, but you can see the whole thing in one shot. Um, what we have at the top, starting in the northwest part of town, we have Mulligan Meadows. It's a private development. The yellow showing the streets that were completed in 25. And then in 26, we have what's showing being proposed in red. So, in 25 we have um this year we have Washington that's basically completed. There's a little bit of tie-in work and then Curtis is the next street and 15th Street and a portion of 17th Street. So, it makes the C portion. That's again the Mulligan Meadows project by Devco. Over to the left in yellow was completed. That's the community development block grant project. We did some [clears throat] concrete paving over there as believe is around four blocks that we got completed over there. Filled in some intersections. So that's a nice stretch that was finished over there. Ninth Street were substantially done. It's usable. We have some sidewalk and some radiuses that need to be finished as soon as some of the utilities are out of the way. We'll get that finished up

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this year. And as we keep going down on the left side um what we have shown in yellow is um Preston and Dixie. Um the north south portions that's a private developer project. What we have shown on the next year is Preston and that's going to be a little bit development driven based on how the market absorbs some of the houses and how they move on. But so the hope would be they get that next portion going this coming year. Um and as we continue moving towards the south and the east, that's where we have a lot of the red and the yellow going on right now. Um two big projects in the middle you can see Dwey. Um that's under design right now with NDOT. I believe they have that scheduled for 27 construction. So 2728. They're going to be bidding it probably this fall season. So, it'll be coming here soon. So, we get the oneway. We're just getting comfortable with it being normal. We're going to get back to a two-year construction going from Leota, South of Leota, all the way up to First Street. So, that'll be coming up sooner than we realize. Um, but we have it for design and next year, the following year, it'll be under construction. The other part we have in red over on the east is Newberry. It's design only. Right now, NDOT, they've had their public input meeting um this fall on that. They're continuing on the design with that. And right now, the plan is it'd be bid in 28 for construction and 29 and 30, which those days seem dates seem a long ways ahead, but that's only two, three years. So to me it seems further out. [clears throat] Um still staying in that same area on

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Golden Road shown in yellow that was completed this spring, the last portion of that in front of sustainable beef. And then we have the big section um kind of in the right middle of the screen. The big portion running east and west is shown as Francis. What we got completed this fall was basically from the current east end of the paving. It goes east all the way over to Devco, which is a rightaway, but there's no street there. It's about 3,800 ft. All of the mainline street paving is in. Some of the sidewalk is in and that's going to get finished in the spring. Also, we have shown McCabe that's running north and south. That's all graded. That's a private developer um street. They're looking at putting that in first thing in the spring. Same thing with that curled shape. It looks a little more like a P Western Avenue. Um that's looking at this spring completion as well. And then we have two portions that are coming on the um agenda later going from Devco all the way east all the way east to Newberry. That's the remainder of Francis, which is around 6,000 feet. So, that's what we have shown on this. Oh, and I I forgot Brian. We have Brian that's shown in yellow. It's a little small piece going north and south. It's going from just south of the Lutheran family services area down to the new Thrive Connection area. That piece in yellow was finished up this fall. So, that's what we have on the one-year plan. And so there's [clears throat] a lot going on in what we've done in the last year and then what we're looking at in the next year. And and I'll be a little bit briefer on

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the see if [clears throat] I can this is the 2 through sixyear plan. It just means a longer term. Um several of these we've carried for multiple years from a planning and to have on people's radar things that we'd like to do in the future. Some of it's funding, some of it is um [clears throat] right away. There's other different things that kind of push things out in the longer term. But two things I would like to highlight more on is we there's a hatched area on the screen. It's on towards the northwest side and we have it labeled northwest CDBG area and then there's another hatched area kind of towards the east of that and we have that called as northeast CDBG area. One thing that we've been looking at is community development block grant funding has recently it kind of goes back and forth between you can do streets they can't do streets you can do streets. We're in the current phase that they're allowing us to apply for streets and we're looking at those two areas that we have some gravel areas that meet the income requirements of the community that we're looking at generically areas that we could try to do more street paving converting from gravel to concrete with the block grant funds. So that's something that's a change from last year based on the current funding availability. Um, but like I said, many of the other items were [clears throat] more of a holdover things that we have for long-term planning, things like that. Um, I think it was last year we added East Francis as probably, but yeah, it was last year's one and six. We had hopes of East Francis going through and with everything that happened, it's now moved from the six year to the one year, which is exciting for the community to have that whole area opened up with street infrastructure.

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So, I kind of went fast, went through a whole lot of information, and if anybody has any questions or comments, this is our community's plan. Mr. May,

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yeah, thank you. I think these are very well thought out and I appreciate [clears throat] them. I know this is a shadeoff topic, but I just want to bring it up. Um, it does seem like there's [clears throat] more pedestrian and business activity going on right at the Oh, it'd be the south side of the Jeff Street VI do. I know there was a bad accident there last year as well. And I I I think since we did our traffic safety study, there's been more evolution of business activity there. I know like North 40 is using their big room more. There's more going on at Parkade Plaza. And so as again, it's a shadeoff topic, but I would just encourage you guys to keep looking at that area below the bridge there from just from a safety standpoint. Okay. Thanks.

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Other questions or comments, Brad? Oh, the uh on East 6, we just recently annexed all that land and we talked about adding that to the the one and six plan. What are your thoughts? I noticed they're not on here.

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Um there's a little bit of on bigger on maintenance where we put it as a project or where we put it as maintenance. From what we've shot for information on that, to me at this point with what we're looking at would be more of a maintenance item that when you look at some of the scope that we have, we'd have other areas that I would probably put similar. But so that was just kind of a decision not to show it on here because we'd have probably it'd make it clut a lot more cluttered, but it doesn't mean that it's not on the radar to do. It's just not shown on here for clarity. Page 34, we got a 2026 maintenance plan. Is that the same maintenance plan you're talking about or is this

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The maintenance plan would be more of an asphalt overlay. Correct. And that's what we have on the radar is looking at some um asphalt overlays. It's going to be dependent on funding, but whether it's this year or next year. Um that's just the urgent ones that we're [clears throat] seeing needing looked at sooner than later. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. rent. A [clears throat] couple things. Um, what's the plans for 14th Street? There's some sections of that street that are getting pretty bad along the edges. Are we going to be putting some overlay on that or you're looking west 14th or east where you

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I'm sorry, West 14th Street because I think east is gravel if I remember correctly. Um, we have some areas over there, but I don't know if we have that on the the asphalt overlay. We'll take a look at it and see if we need to put it under our current maintenance. Okay. So, yeah, we can do that. It's not as bad as 9inth Street was, but it's it's getting there. We can mention the street department and see what we can do either for maintenance or if we need to go to putting it on the overlay portion. The other question I have is on East Francis, um, did they go ahead and put in the storm sewers when they laid the asphalt road or the concrete road? Yes. Well, they did. Okay. Excellent.

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And there's a storm detention all the way at the east end. But yeah, it's all in. Wonderful. Now, if we could just fill it up. The contractors are enjoying the dry weather getting stuff done. So, go ahead, Nick. Thank you. On um Rodeo Road, Brent, why does it stop two blocks west of um 83? Is there any particular reason why the if I'm looking at it correctly? I'm trying to look as best I can, but um the reason with the with the orange with the overlay portion. Yeah. Because I think it's concrete. Okay. Stretch from 83 to Willow.

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That's concrete. Okay. The reason I was asking is um has that intersection on the east side of 83 on 12th Street, has anybody has that been brought up to you guys at all? That intersection there? Um on 83 and Well, it'd be 83 and 12th Street. Yeah. So, when you're come when you're westbound um coming in to town, you stop at that stoplight and if you don't stop in the right spot, it it's a pretty big drop down in that intersection. And so I didn't know if that was on anybody's radar or anything like that or why it stopped a little bit. And who's is that the city's responsibility or the states? Okay.

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Yeah. The [clears throat] the 12th street going east is highway 30. Okay. And 83 is you know highway 83. So those are both on state network but those are things we can bring to their attention. So that whole intersection would be state's responsibility. That's right. Okay. Including the traffic light. That's all of theirs. Okay. Um, and then on the downtown area, how long ago was that when that was redone? All those which which portion? Six years ago. Okay. The what? 2020 was when we did the Dewey portion. Okay.

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We did Dwey Sixth Street and a portion of Fifth Street. That was 2020. And then there was a portion of Fifth Street south of the Panee that was done before. Yeah. Before that. Yeah. So, and [clears throat] so we have shown some of the additional downtown Yeah. to get finished. Do do we have I mean it's just on the radar right now, but is there specific plans on what they want to do downtown or what the city wants to do? Uh which area or Well, it's just all checkered. So, I just didn't know if it was going to just be certain areas or if it was going to be all of downtown.

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Um, it kind of gets into areas a little bit like if you go east, Lane and I've talked about

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the areas that are brick. Longterm, we'd like to, you know, redo the brick similar to what we had prior like south of Dwey, south of Fourth Street, that area by Wells Fargo. There's that stretch in there. We'd like to redo that. That's in that shaded area. Okay. And then over east on Bailey that's similar. Um we have some thoughts of looking at some sidewalk over in that area or some concrete. Um and then also if we can there's some areas we'd like to evaluate the storm drain system that if we can make it better. Um we we've looked at some things like from the east side of Pony up Fifth Street things like that seeing how it's functioning. So, as we've been like when we redid the Dwey Fifth Sixth Street portion and we upgraded the storm sewer through there to get it through that area past it goes on the east side of Parade Plaza up to the railroad to get it out of the downtown area quicker.

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So, does that answer your question that you're Yeah, we have some generic ideas ba we have ideas based on different sections. No, that makes sense. Yeah, it's just going to be depending on what needs attention and some of it is we had CDBG funds for the last time and if we could do that again, you know, that would be another opportunity that we could look at as well. How does that work in partnership of businesses because it has to meet income requirements? Is that so how does that work? Residential verse um commercial. That might be a Judy question. Sorry Judy dragging you in. [clears throat]

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mayor, council. Um it really kind of depends on what programs that they have available, but it's all based off of low to moderate income or blight and substandard. So sometimes you can apply for um grants based essentially off of blight and substandard. You get a higher you get higher points when you're applying for those grants if you can um indicate low to moderate income. So the thing that helps in the downtown are apartments that have been above some of those types of things can help with the income. But I do believe when that was done initially um it was based off of uh blight and substandard designation. Okay. Thank you. Yep.

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Other questions or comments? [clears throat] Seeing none, calling the question on item number three, please. Oh, Andrew, can you switch it back? Yeah, just thinking about it. There we go. That's weird.

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He must have clicked it over before you voted. That's probably what happened. Okay. Okay. Well, anyway, this item passes. Okay. Item number four, more streets. Third reading and action to adopt ordinance number 4205 to create paving extension district number 840 on proposed Francis Street from Devco Avenue to Bsentennial Avenue. Lane, the ordinance, please. Ordinance number 4205, an ordinance for the creation of paving district number 840 on proposed Francis Street from Devco Avenue to bicesentennial Avenue in the city of North Plat Lincoln County, Nebraska and ordering the construction of street improvements therein. Mr. Mr. Mayor, I move to adopt ordinance number 4205 to create paving extension district number 840 on proposed Francis Street from Devco Avenue to Bsentennial Avenue on third reading.

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Second. Ed, was that you on the second? Yes. Okay. Motion by Flanders, second by RER. On item number four, uh I just handed out to the council. You may remember this map from earlier this year in May when we were considering this. Uh this particular area that we're talking about is what's described as C district. So it's got the 840 on it. So it's roughly the area that we would know to be south of the industrial park and the post office and that area. That's the area that we're talking about right now. So just wanted to offer that for clarity. Brent, do you have anything to add at this point?

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Mr. Yep. Will industrial and prospect connect with that street when it goes through there or will they not? I believe the engineer will answer your question in just a moment. Yes. Sorry.

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No worries. Okay. Well, um this is the third reading. We did the first two readings early summer and then we had it tabled with some details and different things. But um what this will do is take Francis from where if you physically go out there now you can see where it ends. It'll go from there to bsentennial. So it's basically other the west ends there's a little bit of curve but it's basically the straight east and west portion and it will connect to prospect and to [clears throat] industrial and we'll also have it set up to connect to um bsentennial at some point in the future. It's we have rightway there. So that will be set up for that as well. And so it's the paving and the storm drainage. There's a storm sewer running parallel to that. So we will have inlets that will connect to that storm sewer system that's already in place.

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Questions? Rod, anything else? So that means that because when it rains a lot industrial on that floods down like post office that drainage will help clear that out or not. Yeah, it should. Um some of that where it floods there's just inlets right at the very end and it's somewhat you get stuff debris. There's probably some maintenance things. The other thing is having those open north and south will help that south end drain better. So, okay. Other question. Go [clears throat] ahead.

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What's the funding mechanism for for this? This um it would be a bond and the payment with the redevelopment agreement. It'll be assigned to the developer per the redevelopment agreement. And I believe what was being talked about was a 10year with a 2% above whatever bond is acquired. You know, at the time the bond is acquired, it'd be plus 2%. So it' be 10 year and two 2% above the city's bond cost. Mr. Mayor,

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I know I already asked you this question once today, but I think it'd be good to go through with the council. And so the current I know we'll address this later, but the the current plan is that the the assessments will fit a certain portion of the property south of this segment of road. Correct. Is that roughly 15 or 20 acres in the current correct concept? Okay.

1:01:11 – 1:03:050

Um it gets kind of and some of this is I think why it was tabled prior was to get some of these details worked out. There's [clears throat] a purchase agreement for the city property south of Francis that will be a sub subdividing this property and what they're proposing is kind of an L-shaped it would be a strip along the south side it's roughly 400 ft about a city block. So from a a cost side, a lot of times um if you're assessing half a block each side, this would be somewhat comparable to that. That'd be assessed only to the southside, which would be owned by the developer. So from a bank finance side, that cost would be assigned to that parcel of property that's abudding the street. Mr. Mayor, just add a comment on that. I think it's good that we recognize of of the areas of all the areas proposed that segment probably presents the city the most risk of having a potential upside down assessment situation because if you take the total assessment dollars and you compare them to the acreage but with that said I mean I'm completely on board with this because it it's really backbone infrastructure that we've done in other places and all of the property south of the assessment area is city-owned property. as I recall, right? Correct. Part of that 66 acre parcel. And so I I I think it's good for us to understand that there is a little bit of risk with that many dollars being assessed to that small acreage. Uh because, you know, if if those assessments don't get paid, there's going to be less property that the city would get back to to to deal with the payment of the bonds on. But I think as part of the overall picture, in my opinion, it still fits the overall plan really well. Go ahead, Brad.

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So, just just to clarify clarify from my own understanding because I'm not an expert in this area. Um, when you say that the the funding mechanism will be assessed, it'll be bonded and it'll be assessed back to the developer. Do they then pass those cap costs on? Because when we were going through our tiff process, part of the agreement was that the tiff would go towards the route of the road all the way out to Newberry Newberry access. How does that function? Is that in the redevelopment plan or where where does that lie?

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It it is described in the redevelopment plan. Um the cost they have all the costs of like infrastructure and they have eligible costs. So the Francis Street would be a TIFF eligible cost. Their plan ultimately for this to come out of the TIF portion I believe so. Um the only thing it gets into timing that Yeah, I don't know their finances behind the scene. How that's actually going to play out that whether they have enough tiff at the time the bills are due is another question. It gets into the buildout and how fast everything develops. So, thank you.

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I think uh might be relevant to have the city attorney kind of read the the part of the redevelopment plan that addresses that area. Um yeah, we anticipated this would come up. So, um

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appreciate that. So, uh, as Brent was saying, I mean, it where it gets a little bit complicated is we're talking about, um, how shortly in the future we plan to assess the the abuing property owners for some of the costs of the improvement district. Uh but as Brent said, that property owner is intended to be the developer uh who is also obligated contractually under their redevelopment plan and redevelopment agreement to pay those costs. And so what we've been working through on the back side of this is uh just how to make sure that all of that plays out and works together. Um, and so, um, to the mayor's point, uh, the redevelopers obligation to pay for this portion of Francis Street is specifically laid out under phase two of their redevelopment plan. Um, and so from my perspective, they they are contractually obligated to put it in. Um, and then what we're talking about with the improvement district, um, I wouldn't say it necessarily modifies it. It just changes some of the financing structure of it a little bit um in terms of the city bonding it out and and issuing some bonds to pay for it and then getting it repaid on the back end of it and is that what you're looking for?

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Okay. My my concern is is if in the original tiff agreement they agreed to put the road in. So essentially the the people in that area or they're through their property taxes pay that tiff bond off. So they're they're being taxed one way. If somehow this gets assessed back to the property owners [clears throat] or the property owners, you know, in the future have to sell this off, you're double taxing your citizens. And that's not that's not a a proper thing to be doing. So I just want to make sure that that this either comes out of the tip or the developer pays for it in some way. And that sounds like what you're saying.

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Yeah, I I I think that's I think that's what I'm saying if I'm understanding correctly. Yeah, I just just want to make sure we're not double taxing anybody because that that's a concern.

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Yeah, Brad, I'll just add a little color for my view on that. So, it in the assessment district world, we I [clears throat] don't I don't want anybody to be rattled later. If they would sell a lot, like say a lot had $100,000 assessment on it. They might sell a lot for $200,000 and say, "Okay, we're going to pay the assessment." or they might sell lot for $100,000 and say you pay the assessment. It's a little bit of a wash if if I know like in in my job if we're doing collateral analysis or you're reading appraisals, that type of thing, assessments get kind of baked into the formula. Typically there there's there's a little bit of theory out there that because if they create a friendly financing mechanism, a buyer might hang on to them, pay out the assessment over time and get the advantage of that financing and so maybe they can get a little better deal on the lot. So, it's not like a perfect 1 plus one equals two all the time, but buyers should have their eyes open because like a title insurance commitment would show the assessment dollars in it and show it as a lean on the property. And so, it it we you shouldn't have a case unless a buyer didn't do due diligence of them buying a lot and thinking assessment was paid and then getting stuck with it. But not to say it couldn't happen, but it it take it take somebody pretty asleep with typical due diligence on it. I think

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so. You are saying that potentially that these lots could be sold off and the assessment goes with it. I think absolutely that could happen. Is that correct, Bill?

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It could, but I mean, again, the challenge I think with this particular stretch of Francis is that you have to you have to look at a lot of different there's a lot of different parts that factor into [clears throat] this. And so one of those is the redevelopment plan um which lays out about um in addition to prospect expend extending prospect drive to the south there are one two three four um kind of on the far west side a fifth road there there are several roads that go through this. So they're planned development includes streets that they're planning to put in that would run north and south. And so my point, I guess what I'm trying to get across is they're not just going to take that strip of land along newly created Francis and just divide that into lots because if they did, they wouldn't be following their redevelopment plan. And so they still have to follow their plan and move along in their phasing and put in roads north and south that divide up a big stretch of that city-owned land there. there's nothing contractually obligating them to not pass that cost off to the uh potential buyer of the lots. Um, I'm not entirely sure how to answer because it I I think practically speaking if they're they're they're a long ways off from being able to subdivide anything in my opinion u because of their obligation contractually under the redevelopment contract and the redevelopment plan to put in the roads that run north and south through there.

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Right. But there's nothing explicitly stating that they can't pass those pass to the buyer. Right. So I'm I'm failing to see how that's not double taxation because that that they're getting the tip money and they can pass the cost of the road off. And to me that seems like we're we're hitting them both ways. And I understand your your point, Ty, that that

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it it does make the lots not as you know equitable. I I get what you're saying, but that that would be the same argument to say sales tax. You know, there's a reason why you don't put sales tax on the marketed price because you're psychologically speaking your brain thinks of it in a different way and you you can see how they be comparable in that way. So, I see where you're coming from, but I I disagree.

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Well, no. And it clear see mayor if I can respond to that. Um the I agree with that and that's why assessments get used. So, like for example, in a in a big development project, it's not uncommon if a subdeveloper or or somebody who wants to do say somebody want to do a strip mall and they want to buy and they need 6 acres of land or something. I mean, to see them buy property with the assessments are not that uncommon because it lowers in essence lowers their purchase price of the lots and they can use the the the assessment based financing that's in place and and it lowers their capital needs. So it it won't shock me at all if we see property get sold subject to some assessments. I mean it's hard to project like Bill said all the subdivisions and that but I I just I don't think we should think they're prevented from doing that because but in but in theory they should get less out of the property. So

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in theory but similar to the sales tax thing we talked about it's it's just thought about different in in your brain. Yeah. So they're paying if if they sell the assessment, they're paying through the assessment and they're paying through their property taxes for the tip bond. So they're they're paying for it to throw twice. And I I don't I don't think I don't agree with how that's logically laid out. If there was some way contractually that required them, either we lower their tiff ask or something along those lines. I I got to I got to be I think we're doing our our citizens a disservice by structuring it. [clears throat]

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When a Hold on. when a piece of property that is under an active tiff bond is sold. So the property taxes become the responsibility of the buyer once the sale completes. The revenue for the tiff from from that piece of property that would go to pay off the tiff bond has to be resolved in the agreement sale. Right. It it just the revenue still flows to the holder of the tiff new bond, right? To the holder of the tiff bond paid by the purchaser of the new property.

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Sure. Um, and I think partly to to Brad's point, um, I I'm I'm trying to kind of think through and and I I don't might be off base on this, but I think partly what Brad is saying, I don't know if it's entirely true because I don't know if it's getting hit with the cost twice because the redeveloper uh, they cannot use unless they pay for the expense, they can't use it as an eligible tiff cost. So, yes. So, what what I'm saying is they may have originally said we're going to have $12 million in paving expenses um as part of our eligible tiff expenses. What we're proposing here with these districts is going to lower that because they're all ultimately they're not paying those immediately out of pocket because they're being financed through the improvement district. they're paying for them then more over time. uh if they wanted to pay for them directly out of pocket, I I'd probably have to ask Mike Bacon exactly what that would look like, but it is changing that slightly because yes, [clears throat] they would not be able in my opinion, they would not be able to use the paving expense that as an eligible tiff cost, but uh the way that the redevelopment contracts are generally put together is that there can be um with those eligible tiff expenses, which are all laid out by statute, um they can be kind of reallocated. So rather than saying that they're, you know, paying 12 million in paving expenses, they might say it ends up being 10 and this other 2 million we're we're reallocating to a different eligible tip tip expense.

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So I I that wasn't the original agreement that we came through on this council. The agreement was that they were going to pay for the road. So now you're changing the agreement after the fact and you're you're sticking it to the the end buyer. money is fungeible. So if you remove an expense here, they can put it over here and it's that's more money in their pocket is what it essentially is going to do. I I still see it as apples to apples. You're you're you're having an enduser and a buyer pay for this twice whether it's they changed the name of the the tip eligible expense or not. So I I I disagree. I think we're I think we're doing our citizens a disservice on this one.

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Mr. Mayor Dwayne, [clears throat]

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you know, Brad, you are right that we should be looking at this very carefully, but I would tell you what changed or what what gets me comfortable with this. The first domino in this was the grant money that created the connection from to the basically to get this all the way to Newberry. So the next piece, the 841 piece. And so with that, this became this became the island portion of the road that was needed for the connection. And so I think what the developers asked the city to do the way I see it is they said, "Okay, we're asking you for a change. We're going to it's you're going to get the connection to Newberry faster than you were going to get otherwise because of the grant work that the city did and and whatever agreements they have with those land owners. But now we're asking for your help to provide interim financing on that portion using your powers of bonding, lower rates, putting it on the assessment, not on the developer, that type of thing. So it absolutely was a change from the original plan. But I think we don't want to forget that the first domino in that change was the ability to connect to Newberry in a faster a faster pace. And so but it's absolutely a change. You're right. It is a change and it's a change to the tune of millions of dollars more in the pocket for the developer.

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Okay. Any other questions or comments? Mr. Go ahead, Ed. I would like to table this until I can get a better grasp of what's being discussed. Second.

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Item number four. We have a motion to table by RER, second by McNe. [clears throat] Calling the question on the table. Okay. the items tabled to the next meeting. Item number five, third reading and action to adopt ordinance number 4206 to create paving extension district [clears throat] number 841 on proposed Francis Street from Bsentennial Avenue to Newberry access. Ordinance number 4206, an ordinance for the creation of paving district number 841 on proposed Francis Street from bsentennial Avenue to Newberry access in the city of North Plat, Lincoln County, Nebraska, and ordering the construction of street improvement therein. Mr. Mr. Mayor, I move to adopt ordinance number 4206 to create a paving extension district number 841 on proposed Francis Street from Bsentennial Avenue to Newbury access on third reading.

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Second motion by Vols, second by Dy. Okay, this is the uh item or section D in the drawing that I held up earlier, which is the piece that would run um from basically from Bsentennial Avenue to Newberry or and it would abut Golden Road. So, comments Brad, this would be the same same discussion, same, you know, argument we just had a second ago. So, I I would move to table this also.

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Second. Motion to table by Garrick. Second by Lucas. Calling the question on the table. Item is table to the next meeting. Moving on to number seven. Consider action on an application by Premier Energy LL. Oh, excuse me. I jumped one. I apologize. [clears throat] Sorry. Item number six, third reading, an action to adopt ordinance number 4242 enexing 11 governmentowned parcels into the corporate limits of the city of North Flat, Nebraska, consisting of approximately 51.97 acres. Ordinance number 4242, an ordinance of the mayor and council of the city of North Plat, Lincoln County, Nebraska, to include within the corporate limits of the city of North Plat certain lands as more fully described herein, repealing all ordinances or parts of ordinances in conflict here with providing for the effective date and publication thereof. Mr. Mr. Mayor, I moved to adopt ordinance number 4242 annexing 11 governown owned parcels into the corporate limits of the city of North Plat, Nebraska consisting of approximately 51.97 acres on final reading.

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Second motion by Raker, second by Vols. Any discussion on item number six? Seeing none, call the question on item number six, please. Item number six has passed. Item number seven, consider action on an application by Premier Energy LLC purchaser and J Oil LLC owner for a conditional use permit to allow construction of a commercial solar farm located at the intersection of Victoria Lane and East State Farm Road in an A1 transitional agricultural district. Mr. Mayor, I move that we find the request for conditional use permit to allow a commercial solar farm located at intersection of V Victoria Lane and East State Farm Road meets the minimum standard stated in the North Plat code of Ordinance section 156.322 and approve and grant the conditional use permit requested with the condition that all elements of the application are complied with. And I would at this point like to add two conditions into this so that we can have discussion on it. Condition number one, bring back to council for approval of agreement before construction begins. A detailed permission to interconnect with NPPD and municipal light and water outlining the subtransmission agreement with NPPD and/or municipal light and water along with entity for PPA which stands for per power purchasing authority. And condition number two, owner operator of solar farm will review decommission

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plan with the city of North Plat every five years and make appropriate adjustments. And I do have a copy of that for Angie and anyone else that needs it. Okay. Um and it's based on the following following factual findings. One, the use shall conform to all applicable ordinances, laws, and regulations of any governmental jurisdiction. Two, the you shall have adequate water, sewer, and drainage facilities. Three, ingress and egress shall be so designated as to minimize traffic congestion in the public streets. Number four, the use shall in all other respects conform to the applicable regulations of the district in which it is located. And five, the use shall be in harmony with the character of the area and the most appropriate use of the land. Second motion by V, second by McNe.

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Okay, we have the proposed operator back here in the back of the room. Do we have any questions that he we'd like him to answer?

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Hear you, sir. Mr. Mayor uh uh gentlemen of the council, happy new year. It's good to see you all again. Uh please give us your name and address. Uh sorry. Uh Jeff Cook Coyle, Premier Energy based in Grand Island, Nebraska.

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Yep. I just I wanted to uh include the conditions in there and get your opinion on them. Um let me let me go through some rationale of why why I went here. Okay. Um, you know, as I look at the five, um, factual findings that we need to look at for a conditional use permit, I feel that this ground meets all of those factual findings. You know, I feel the location works well in an industrial/aggricultural area. Uh, it's close to electrical infrastructure. Adjoining the adjoining property owner approves of this uh, structure, this [clears throat] solar farm going there. And currently, it's it's just idle ground. and it has been for a really long time. Um, some things that you guys really bring to the to the to the mix here. We're going to get an increase up to 3.5 to 5 megs of power, which that's a desire for anyone. You know, it

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can create future economic development and it has the potential and it has the potential to create development that is not already existing in the town. Mhm. So the reason So I I feel it fits the factual findings for the solar farm to be put there. My biggest concern was to obviously we talked about protect the city of North Plat financially and it's kind of like a fear of the unknown. You know, this is a new project for us and

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we're kind of taking baby steps. So in those conditions I put that you bring back to council before construction begins a detailed permission interconnect. You talked about that already. I don't think that'll be a problem with and then the subtransmission agreement with NPPD and or municipal light and water along with we just want to know who the end user is. Sure.

1:25:37 – 1:26:140

Okay. Who the PPA is going to be. Okay. And then with the decommissioning plan, I know you said that copper's worth an awful lot of money. I don't have a crystal ball. They could come up with a new metal next year. I don't know. But copper might get shot all the heck. So, I would just like the city to be able to revisit that decommission plan every five years just to make sure that we're still in a position that it works for us. So, that's kind of why I brought them in. I'll let you talk about that and see what you think there.

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I I'll I'll start with the second of of the the two conditions. I think that's an excellent idea. Uh absolutely that it is a fear of the unknown and it it's you there's room with what you have there for it to go both ways that in five years everyone can be very comfortable with how it's working and you know in 10 years you know it's just like we'll keep it as it is. I can I think it's an excellent path forward for everybody to become familiar with the whole thing. um on the the first one, the interconnection uh agreement is a great thing to bring back to you and just to update the city council if there's going to be this, you know, millions of dollars worth of infrastructure going into the city. Absolutely. Uh you can understand why you'd have an interest and how it's all going to work. Um, and so when for that visit, would that be as an informational update? Um, or I I my only concern would be a future city council being in a position where they could then put the kibos on the whole thing when everything is completely agreed to at that point. If I may speak, I I put in here agreement before construction begins. So it would

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I ideally it would happen within the next six months, I would assume. Yeah. you know, and and this council will look just like this 6 months from now. Fair enough. But yeah, um [cough] yeah, I still, you know, still adds an element of of risk if there's going to be a vote of of some kind at that point. Um but we'll we can all keep talking about that. But I personally I I I think that's both of those are excellent conditions. Okay.

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And that there at least in they're things that we would would welcome. There's also a chance it won't be a power purchase agreement that the farm will be sold to another utility or off or business, you know, with a a North Plat connection. Those are the two things that are both we're we're both pursuing right now with ongoing conversations. Actually, both of them are, you know, going to be talking tomorrow about the project. We'll be talking with a potential with a local business that has an interest in the project and there's also a local utility that is uh in in detailed discussions about it. Also,

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can I get a copy of that motion? Thanks. Appreciate you printing those out. Y

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yeah I you know does a great job of addressing the fear of the unknown which is the biggest thing

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cross that we'll share I Anybody else? guys. Yeah. I mean, it's I mean I I I guess it's a you know in your mind you have complete confidence that there won't be a road poll you know if the city council has permission to approve and you know you know when you did your when you did

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I'm looking you know at each of you I think I think that's fair. Yeah, I I think these are we would have no problem with these conditions. When you did your recap and it was well thought out and I read through that a couple times today, you know, you talked about a development agreement. This is kind of in lie of a development agreement. These are the three things that when I pulled, you know, city electrical workers and that that that were their concerns, so they're my concerns. Sure. You know, so so I think this could be a a path to go forward. I don't know how this vote will turn out at this point, but this that will give you an indicator. Yeah. Excellent. So, thank you, Mr. Boltz.

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So, Jeeoff, would you talk a little bit about the [clears throat] decommissioning portion? I'm I'm not so worried about 30 years from now as I am a really bad hailtorm. So, yeah. How how do you see that functioning not only from the process, but from the financial perspective? Sure. Well, from a a really bad hail stom perspective, the project will be insured and you know, just like when your car has hail damage,

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it's, you know, you your your car is uh you you get money from the insurance company and and you rebuild it. Um, and the, you [snorts] know, the the the the people who own the project are counting on it performing for 30 years, you know. So, there is a difference with uh um you know with with car insurance. You know, we we got a check from $6,000 from State Farm to for hail damage on our car. And my son's driving a hell damaged car right now because it's tolerable. But, you know, with this, the people who own the project are expecting it's going to perform for 30 years. And so they're going to see to it that those repairs or 40 years, you know, they're going to see to it that those repairs are made so that this company, this project keeps generating energy for for them and and money for them really because all of the investment is upfront. And so if you know they're spending all the money and then they're getting paid back over time and so their incentive is to uh to keep the project moving forward. Yeah, that makes sense. So, in the event of a decommission in 30 years or 35 years, whatever the case may be, if for some reason, I think that one of the concerns that I've heard from people across the community is what happens if this venture is financially unsuccessful and we end up with a, you know, a bankruptcy scenario or something along those lines.

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Um, so from the decommissioning perspective, I know there's been various discussions. So what is what is your role? Let let's before the decommissioning, let's back up to the financially unsuccessful that the this project is an asset and it's an asset with a recognized, you know, w with a with a value with a market value that there's um thousands of projects like this across the country and they get sold all the time. And so if the owner of the project was to um have something that you know it went belly up, the project would get sold to someone that could make a profit operating it. Okay. Um and

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and then as it relates to decommissioning

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and then how that relates to decommissioning at the end of its life um the that's for the the for the project to be put to another use. The solar has to be removed and you whoever owns the project is going to want something to come of it that property that's positive. And for the com, you know, for the not big amount of money that it cost to decommission it compared to the value of the property, uh it it's it's a step which makes economic sense to them. And the worst case from the city is that um if the system is inoperable for a year, it's considered litter and a nuisance. And you have regulations on the book right now about what to do about litter and nuisances that you can address. You're allowed to go on the property. You're allowed to remove it and you can bill the owner of the property for it. So the city has that as the worst case backs stop.

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Okay, Pete. And correct me if I'm wrong, Jeff, but you have in here to guarantee that the project owner has the means to remove the solar energy system. project owner shall post a 750,000 bond and or a type of natural disaster cleanup. So that's that's in our that's in our agreement. And it's in the agreement. That's one of the conditions that we will have to uphold. Exactly. So and the only thing I want to look at is you know and you said the copper is worth a lot of money. So today pulling all that copper out of the ground is worth a lot of money. I just want to ascertain that we look at that every five years to make sure that that 750 is still okay and the copper in the ground's still okay. So if

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they leave town, we have an way to get this solar field out of there. So that was my second condition. Does that make sense? Is that agreement? I I yeah wholeheartedly endorse that. Yeah. Mr. I just wonder too as far as you're getting like hail insurance. Um, and I think what they're concerned about too is if the Hailtorm wipe the whole thing out, it's a total loss. My suggestion is that be an endorsement on the insurance policy have you have to pay the cleanup an additional assured.

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Yeah. Well, beyond endorsed on there is what the funds have to use for that. Sure. We don't have a that can't be done because we don't have a we don't have a financial stake in this. So the owner would have to the bank is going to make sure they have insurance on on the [clears throat] solar farm. But we couldn't we won't have insurance. I'm talking an endorsement on the policy which is like you buy a car. We don't have an insurable interest. We're not financing this. We're not a lean holder. We don't want it. We do to the extent that we have a right to have the property cleaned up. I think this is done in other areas too. Clean up. The owner of the field owns the property. We don't have

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What you're saying is but just like when you buy a car, you told them they have to pay the lean on. Sure, but we're not on there. They have a fiduciary responsibility. We don't own We don't own the ground. Yeah. We don't own the ground. Yeah. I don't think that would I don't think you'd be able to list on as an additional insured because we don't have any ownership

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additional insured be obligated to pay is it it comes back to the fiduciary responsibility of the owner that they've they're they have this project which is going to be generating you know revenue that's worth that same $750,000 a year to them on their wholesale power bill and it's it's a small amount of money to pay you know it's it's a very very wise business decision to keep the thing operating for its whole life and the money's in the bank to to you [clears throat] know to decommission it at the end. Yeah, that's fine. I'm saying people like fire insurance on building. What you don't want to have happen is the building burns down, the guy pumped up all money and runs off.

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Sure. Uh and I think there's something there that fire insurance that the part of the deal that they have to pay the cleanup. Mhm. It's part of the policy. That's endorsement, but it's on the policy that they pay to clean. That's right. They don't run off with a Right. Right. Right. So, is it fair to say that the second Brett, is it fair to say that something terrible happens three years in, we have the $750,000 sitting there and it could be accessed in the event that it had to be cleaned up. That's That's what it's for. That's Yes. Yeah. So, it's a different style of insurance policy. Go ahead.

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To Jim's point, you know, I had not thought it through to this level that you guys are discussing. How do we guarantee that that $750,000 gets to us and they don't run off? How do you how do you do that? It's in number three. They talk about it in the in the contract. [clears throat] Number three, uh to which the city of North Plat project owner and the bank shall have a deposit account control agreement, right? Mhm. I'm just reading off of here. Yeah. Right. And so money goes into an account that we have access to. It would be similar to like an escrow situation where we

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where the bank would be acting as like an escrow agent and then there would be an agreement that would specify when the funds would be paid out and who they would be paid out to because at the end of the life cycle of the the system if the owner comes in gets it all cleaned out they could apply to the escro agent or the bank to get the money back. Um and if it's a bond then under a bond then the city would it would just be payable to the city under again this the um specifications that are set forth in the bond. So those would be things that again we should this be approved we would make sure that all of that is in there

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and it you know to Councilman Volsa's point it it's part of their application so it's incorporated into their conditional use permit if it's approved and then they don't do it then we can take steps you know to remedy that or revoke the conditional use permit whatever whatever we would need to do at that point but I think Jim's point is that we need to structure to bad hail stoms hits, they can't take that money and run, but it's protected and it somehow comes to us or comes to whoever is going to do the cleanup. So, I think it's a valid point to do that, but I'm not the attorney. Right. Other questions or comments? Ed. Oh, I'm sorry. Go ahead, Brad.

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Uh, do you care if I ask you a couple questions on your your No. Not at all. Uh uh mainly number one uh bring back to council for approval before construction begins. I I'm assuming that means we're going to vote on that again. Correct. That's not just a for approval. Yes. Okay. That's that that was my understanding, but I wanted to make sure that's what you meant. Uh can you can you walk me through what power purchasing authority means? Kind of I I I don't quite It's whoever buys the power. So I just want to know who the end user is going to be.

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Gotcha. you know, so if it's and the only thing that and in all honesty and transparency, the only thing that could really um kink this deal up for lack of better terms is let's say and we kind of talked about this. Let's [clears throat] say this power goes all off to Carney for economic development, right? Well, we've got the solar farm and they're getting the use of it. I know we had a chance to get it, but you know, so you I don't know if I'm allowed. You mentioned like another power company around this area that you know would help

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it would help that power company. It would help this area. We just want to ascertain that that it's going to help the area if we're going to have this solar farm here. I I I I can state that the power company we're talking to serves parts of Lincoln County. Yes. Yeah. I know you you you brought them up last time and I just don't want to say their name. So, yeah. So, that's who that's who the PPA is. That seemed to be a coined term in Yeah. And Right. Exactly. And and I I think if they say it's not a a PPA, we we're purchasing the project. You guys aren't going to Right. Right. Yeah. I wanted to make it sound like it's a structure, [laughter] right? It's it's a structure to get us back and to hear what it is that's being approved.

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Exactly. and make sure the wheeling fee or the hookup interconnect fee and everything all makes sense to our guys and this board. Yep. And we don't know anything. It's those guys that that right we count on. So So to further clarify your your amendment uh because it says in here before construction begins I'm assuming that power purchasing authority and I agree with you we should have some kind of say where that that power goes. the it the the agreement needs to be structured on a moving forward basis. It can't be a before construction begins, we agree to something and then they can do whatever they want because you you can you know sure

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it's it's a it's a resale whole market. Um so would you include the wheeling fee into this uh power person purchasing authority piece? No, because that's it's in there. That's the interconnect fee. I think they're the same terminology and I'd have to bring our resident electrical guy up here to talk about. Yeah, I was I saw Scott in the back and then he ran off. So do we have someone from our side that's that's an expert in wheeling fees because that's something I wanted to Oh I was trying to do this without having it

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I don't know that I'm an expert but Tony with municipal light water and so your your question again go ahead.

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So and again this is not my area of expertise so if I say something dumb please correct me. The wheeling fee is it's going to go across our structure over to NPPD. Right. So the interconnect is the connection to NPPD, but the going across our lines is the wheeling fee. Correct. They're two different things. Correct. And from what I understand, a wheeling fee is like seven 70 cents or MPBD's wheeling fee is 70 cents per kilowatt hour. Now, from what I understand, that runs anywhere from 50 cents to up to a buck 50 is kind of the range that those float in in current prices. Um, right now the wheeling fee isn't in any of this contraction. Have you read any of that?

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Yep. So, how do we how do we protect ourselves and adhere to industry norms where we are are are getting what we're what we should be do because they're going across our lines. Um, can you speak to the wheeling? I I was hoping Scott would stick around that.

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Yeah. So, I don't um I don't know exactly like this right now is just the conditional use permit. We'd have to have a whole another conversation on um what we're going to charge to to connect or to wheel that to wherever they need that to go. MPPPD is probably the logical um choice. Um and that's a whole and if we even want to do that if if the structure it have to be a study um to if the structure if our infrastructure would even handle that at this point depending on the the development [clears throat] in that area.

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Doing some math on a 5 megawatt line uh 5 kilowatts an hour. I I understand this is solar so it's not running all the time. It's only running when the sun's shining. Uh but it's upwards of a half a million dollars a year is potentially what that wheeling fee could be. So, we're talking real money. It's not uh that's that's what my math does. Your your your envelope, you said 35,000 when we were here um just on December 2nd and that number was much much it's correct. I that that was that was a an example of me being very incorrect in my mathematics. Was right. You were right with that number.

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Uh uh both MPPPD and I did some research on my own. I I was I was off by a factor of 10. It's actually in the 350 range is what that 70.7 cents per See, we're nodding over here. So, I I I'm just saying I want to I want to have all this out transparently and I I called you on that. We I tried talking to about it, but we got off on another subject. But, um that wheeling fee is one going to put some pressure on you guys for sure. And two, if if we don't have a wheeling fee, we're essentially subsidizing this program because we're not adhering to industry standards. So, I I want to have a conversation about that and and how that all works.

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I I think they would probably have two options um to connect with us um at a fee or at a rate that we agreed upon or their own transmission is what's going to probably end up happening. So, they would run their own lines and not run ours. Correct. Is that something we would allow? It again would have to be up for conversation being discussion

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being it's close proximity right there to the um MPDB MPPD's distribution area right south of State Farm. It probably wouldn't be a huge cost to for them to run their own line, but it something we'd have to explore. There's going to be a lot of so a lot of um research is going to have to be done. I mean it's something that we have never done before, right? Um there's going to have to be a case study on it and and and find out what works best for us.

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I I my concern is is if if we don't charge some kind of a wheeling fee, which is industry standards, we're subsidizing this project. And I've gotten a lot of calls against this. And so we subsidize a project that the constituency is against. It's it's not a good thing. There would have to be a willing fee, but the interconnect. Yes. Yeah. So h how does that go through the process with our our you know agreements and does this need to be put into the motion now or is that later on? How how is that structured? That might be illegal. And if I might add, just if I might interject real quick because Tony, Tony, stay up there if you don't mind for a sec because you and I kind of talked about this. Um,

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so in my condition, a detailed per permission to interconnect with MPPD and municipal and water outlining the subtransmission agreement. So is that sub the subtransmissions if they're hanging on our lines, that's the wheeling fee. Is that am I inaccurate? That would be correct as if they're going to transfer it over our lines. Correct. So that's why I put that verbiage in there on your recommendation with NPPD andor municipal light and water. And I'm comfortable with that language. I think that fits. And honestly, you logically thinking this through, we should come up with our own wheeling fee that we add in and we do go, you know, every year we decide what rates we're going to charge, you know, that kind of stuff.

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So all I'm trying to do here is give them a way to go to be perfectly honest with you. that might be acceptable to me. I can't speak for any of you guys and and I can't speak for Tony, but I did get my advice from Tony. Yeah. No, I'm comfortable with this language and how you've structured it. I just I just want to make sure that I understood what you meant and that we will put some kind of wheeling fee in in place of that.

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Mr. Mayor, go ahead. I just want to add a view I have on that is that I think what you guys have really well flushed out is this is a very complicated project and everybody knows we need power. We could argue all day about whether you like this technology or not but what I [clears throat] keep boiling down to is this is going to take a lot of resources to do it right in a way that doesn't cost us money or give us inherent risk and and and is it a high enough priority to dedicate the resources to it? Right. That's that's the question I keep keep asking myself in regards to this. And so I just want to I I think you're you're spot on with what you've added, but I think as a council we still have to ask ourselves, is the dedication of resources our priority?

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Ed, thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, this is an interesting discussion. I'm not sure I understand all of it, but I know enough to be dangerous. Um Tony, you mentioned about um investigating whether our equipment will even even handle this. Um so let's say we get into this thing and we find out that our equipment won't handle it. So as of right now, as of today, that that line would be just fine that services that area depending on the development in that area, it may or may not at that time

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at the well, let's say that that that area develops fast, okay, manufacturing, whatever might go in across the road, okay? Then we've got to be able to service that, right? That's not going to change the amount of power these people are going to but but it but the infrastructure the amount of power that the infrastructure can handle. Oh, I understand that. But given today's model, given today's model

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and that's all we got to base it on, we we can't look into the future because we're making a decision based on what they're how much power they're going to put into our system. Will our system handle the amount of power that they want to put? transmission lines out there are built to handle it today, right? Um, question for uh, Mr. Coyle. So, you're you're from Eastern Colorado. You know about hail. I think our stones are a little bigger than yours. They are, which means they do a little more damage. They do. So, [clears throat] what happens just as a for instance, you get totaled. Mhm. Well, let's let the real real world example

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end my question. Okay. Sorry. Um, you get total. What about your end customer? He's relying on you to provide quote green energy and now all of a sudden you do not have green energy to provide to him. Does that open you up then to additional liability? It can. We haven't drafted those agreements, but like with a power purchase agreement where you're being you're counting, you know, a utility is counting on you delivering that energy. There are penalties for non for for not meeting minimum deliveries, right?

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So, and and a green credits I I I we'll see if they ask for that. Well, I guess my [clears throat] my thought is depending on the whole circumstances and your insurability, could those costs be enough to to to shut your company down? No. Uh, we know what those costs are. Yeah. Okay. All right. Next question. Okay. That sounds like a court. I'm sorry. I don't mean to That's awesome. Um you and I spoke about um and I think the proper term is a converter that converts the DC to inverter. Yes, you were very close. Yes. Okay. And it is close

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actually. And and batteries have a power conversion system, a PCS. So that you're that might you might be thinking about that if you're going to go to China. That's exactly where I'm going. And and I would like to have that as part of our condition that all of the inverter mechanisms be manufactured with manufactured in the United States and sourced with UN with and sourced with with U with US guts with US components.

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That's a proposed condition to the conditional use permit. That way we can ensure ourselves to the best of our ability that China is not going to be fiddling around with our grid. That's the only way that that I think we can do that. Um, in my opinion, that's a very real concern. Make a motion and and so I I will do that. Jim, thank you for for asking that question. So, Mr. Mayor, I would like to propose a U What's the word? [clears throat] Amendment. Amendment. Third condition.

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Amendment to the conditions uh that the uh that the uh inverters uh be uh manufactured in the United States of America and and the uh internal mechanisms all be sourced from materials manufactured in the United States. Second.

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Okay. Um motion by Rick here, second by Garrick. Sorry, wrote off on another sheet of paper then uh to have the inverters sourced within the United States. And is that the sum of your

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Well, yes and no, Mr. Mayor. I mean right now I think it's pretty common that we may quote assemble something in the United States but we source the guts from other countries and I think it is important that we have not only assembled in the United States but the internal components are manufactured within the United States. So the United States has complete and total control over the over the system. And this is you're speaking of the inverters, the inverters specifically manufactured [clears throat] and assembled within the United States and and the components of the inverters. Okay. I

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mean, I'm not worried about the the tubular aluminum or or the glass or anything like that, but it's the stuff that can be uh electronically maneuvered that that concerns me. Is that possible? I suggested that's that was the easy answer to the conversation about China was just make it a condition.

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I I will chime in on this because you know while electricity is not my wheelhouse. I've written software for over 20 years. It is extremely easy to hide code in there and to do different things and and to put stuff that you can later download. Like that's that's not difficult at all. and and all of this has the technology to control remotely from your phone from home which means any in the world anybody in the world can do that also. So I I actually appreciate this this amendment. It it's it's smart to be honest because it it reduces the footprint of of what what is touching the grid while the other pieces can still be outsourced if so need. So I think that's a good amendment to be honest. Yes, we do. Okay.

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Let me ask a question Mr. Mayor. Do you imagine compliance to be by some kind of certification from them or do you foresee some kind of inspection? Are we going to have to hire somebody to do that inspection or I mean I I'm appreciative that you guys excellent question come up with this [clears throat] collaborative idea but do you have a suggestion on that? If if I may, Mr. Lucas. Yeah. that that condition be added to the things you're approving in the first condition that it become a subpart participle or whatever to the first condition that Mr. Volt added. So I don't I I'm saying roll that into the first

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That's what we're binging. Thank you, Mr. Yes. But I believe what Tai is getting at is who's going to determine that these actually meet our specification? Is that right, Ty? Yeah. I guess my question is, is it A, they're going to certify it and we're going to trust them? Is it B that we're going to look ourselves with staff we have, or is it C we're going to have to spend some money to hire somebody? So that I I don't know. I I mean, I'm in support of your idea here, but I I don't have expertise. I just would like the staff if this is approved, if this all gets approved, for them to have some direction on what the expectations are.

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Typically in large construction projects, there'll be a a shop [clears throat] drawing process where components are man or generated, purchased, whatever. Is this is it the same in this process? Yeah, it that would be part it would be specked in the interconnection agreement.

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Okay. So you can [clears throat] ask the engineer it it'll be specked in the interconnection agreement. So it'll be part of what comes before you in actually in the existing condition and it's something that both uh NPPD's engineers and also staff engineers can can address and that's my opinion. You don't have to take our word for it. We don't have to spend money on a third party. That answers my question if that's

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so I'll I'll chime in on that because it's a great question Ty and and as we're structuring this I I think you you you think moving forward too because you can't you know the initial build is all up to code and then they start swapping out different parts you need to think moving forward how to how to manage that. Um great question. All right there questions or comments on the proposed amendment? Seeing none, calling the question on the amendment. Amendment is added condition. Okay, back to the original discussion. We any other questions or comments? Come here.

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Oh, Brian, sorry. Go ahead. So, Tony, so if if our lines would not I'm going back to that. If it would not take it, they would have to get their own line. Is that correct? If if we decide that we don't want to interconnect with them, then they're going to have to find a different way to do it. Um, depending on the findings of a of a study. I mean, we're going to have to have a study done. um in my opinion. Um and so if for some reason we don't want that or don't want to interconnect with that um then they're going to have to find their way to get it to I'm assuming MPPPD at that point.

2:00:23 – 2:01:400

Okay. All right. Well, yeah, I had my reservations on this uh you know from the beginning and from discussions with other people and everything. I the conditional use I think it meets the the criteria. The land out there is is is is ready for it. Uh you know unfortunately didn't it didn't develop to what it was supposed to do and you know there's a around it. There's industrial. Uh so I I think it's a good area. Um you know I just in my in my opinion I didn't want the city owning any of it. I didn't want them to be a part of that. I don't think they should be a part of that. Um, but I think adding these conditions from Councilman BS and and the discussion from Councilman Garrett and Rer, I I it really has brought me to the to the before this. I I think we never know it could bring in some kind of industry to our to our community that loves green energy. And so and it's and and it's happening all around around the world. So I'm I'm for it.

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I will say that it's happening less there's a lot lot more a lot less emphasis on green today than there was six months ago a year ago as as we're moving away from that. So but anyway that's take take green or not green. Um I don't like the terminology either way. Energy is energy. Yeah. And we need energy. Yeah.

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So, we don't have any other solutions out here right now for the immediate need. So, you know, I know green energy versus non-green energy has turned political. So, let's take politics out of this and this allows us to get a little bit more energy that we might need around here. That's my two cents.

2:02:26 – 2:03:100

Yeah. The the reality of it is eventually this will be technology where we get all of our energy from. Well, it's just where it's going to go. There's so much energy coming from the sun every single day that it would be stupid not to do it. Uh just a point of clarification, um and I think I know the answer to this. If we if we pass this today with all of these, uh conditions and tomorrow Jeff wakes up and he says, "Okay, this isn't financially viable." they can't sell the land to somebody else because all of these conditions still apply and the plan and all of that. Correct. Okay, that's that was my assumption. So, thank you. Does the conditional use go to the land or to the people that to the land? To the land. Okay.

2:03:08 – 2:04:060

Well, I'm I'm all for the green energy part as long as it doesn't cost us taxpayers any money. I'm also a little concerned that they're using our green space to make electricity and going to ship it off to somewhere else. Gary works hard to try to get economic development going here and they need that. I don't want our green space to be making energy for someplace else. But as far as the conditional use, I don't see any problem with it. I like all the amendments that's been added to it and uh I think we need to trust that they'll be a good partner this year. brings up a commonly asked question. So Jeff, would you let's say that Gary successfully recruits a business here in a couple years and they would like to have some of your green energy. Would would there be any possibility that we would be you would be able to sell them some

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in the at some point in the future? you would have to talk to the owner of the project and it's, you know, the the the most likely owner from for the project is either going to be an existing business in town or a utility that you have close relationships with presently that serves Lincoln County. So, um, they're their doors open. They have I I can say they have not mentioned a use for the green credits themselves. They've not said, "Oh, good. We, you know, such and such is banging on our door for green credits." Okay. They're interested in this as a lowcost form of energy.

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So, it's fair to say that it would be possible, but it depends on the situation at the time. Yes. Is that correct? Yes. Okay. That's very fair. Thank you. So, as I'm I'm reading Pete's amendment here with the the power purchasing authority, we would moving forward have some say in that that process. That was your intention, wasn't it? just on the initial before construction. So, Oh, not moving forward. No, not after that. That's a free market society. Yeah. You know, the only the only reason I put that in there is Jeff has to have an enduser before he starts construction. So, he's going to know who that is. So, after this, after it comes back to us, then it's a free market. Yeah.

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So, in my opinion, Sure. Just like if you give a conditional use permit for a hotel, um then once the hotel is built, it can be sold and that's just, you know, life in America. We will know who that is. Yes. Yes. Yeah. I will be back. They'll they'll be here and if it, you know, if if it's who I think it's going to be, it won't would not be hard for them and they'll want to have a good relationship with you. But as soon as you know, the initial one, I understand, but as soon as that market gets opened up, then it could be anywhere. And we're in a bidding war with all of the markets at that point. We're talking about that initial. Sure.

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Gotcha. But then then it's then it's free. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. [laughter] On the on the other, if I understand correctly, if if this particular user isn't really concerned about uh quote green energy, then he's in the open market system and he's going to buy power that's the cheapest. It may not be this power to be a exactly. Yeah. So, we don't know. We're not going to There's some there's some companies that do that. Well, I mean, there's some people want that will pay extra. I mean, that's out there

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that that add that contract is um what Pete refers to as the power purchasing authority. That is the contract. So, you will be you will hear the details of that contract.

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Okay. All right. Thank you, chairman. Okay. Okay. Okay. Other questions or comments? Seeing none, calling the question on item number seven as amended. Item number seven is passed. Moving on to item number eight. Discuss and outline terms and conditions of a potential lease of city property with RS Rolloff Solutions regarding the lease of approximately 1 acre of land at the transfer station for the short-term storage of wood debris from the Masonite door manufacturing facility. Lane, you have some details on this.

2:07:43 – 2:09:330

Um, yes. So I guess before we have any discussion on what terms would be, what we have proposed to us, Masonite door has a lot of scrap and there's a picture in your package showing like it's basically they call them door skins. It's the outside of doors that they manufacture. They have a lot of scrap and right now it's going to the landfill and they found a end user that would be able to use that product to grind up and use as a mulch material. Um the big thing is they're looking at a place to store it short term before they can haul it out in the larger truck loads on our facility. Um so that's kind of the the the short term of it. Now there is some concern with our permit from the state as far as our what's considered solid waste. As long as these are not treated, don't have any chemicals in them, they still considered a wood product. if they have any chemicals or things that it kind of treads on the side of if it's solid waste or not, then it falls under different where it has to be inside and different things like this. But if it's long as it doesn't have the chemicals and things, it can be stored outside for a short term before it's hauled away. So, um PJ's in the audience. He's kind of the one behind this as far as working on on some of that. But that's that's what we're looking at. I show a map in here really kind of towards the west side of our developed part of the um transfer station area. It's where we have a dugout where we get clay from a hill would be kind of the best place to put it where it's kind of out of the the wind wouldn't be able to blow stuff as much and be away from other things. Um again, there is some concerns from from some of the operators on this, but that's uh kind of where we're at with this. So, it's before the council for consideration. What are you proposing as a charge?

2:09:32 – 2:10:010

Um, we've talked about a couple different things. Either a flat charge or might be easier where we would just charge the same rate as what we charge now for the of our wood debris that goes out the the hauler that's taken. It's $10 a ton for that. And so it would just be out of how much they would haul everything in um put in a pile and then as it goes out we would charge by the ton as it goes out. Might be the easier way to do it instead of a flat fee. How many acres are sitting up there?

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Um we have well we have 200 some acres of pasture land to the west of this but our kind of developed or where the old landfill sits underneath. I don't remember exactly 50 70 acres something like that. This is a small piece of that to the north of it is where we're building the shooting range for the police for training that we've been building for quite some time. Is that available for council? We have not gotten it permitted yet, so I can't say that. I'm probably not. [laughter] Go ahead, Mr. Mayor. Thank you. U 9.41 acres. That's proposed area lane.

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Well, but basically one acre. Yeah, [clears throat] I I did a I did a box and it's basically one acres is what's shown in that little green box. Not quite. And and so is the concern about chemicals on these door skins, does that apply only to the area where we're permitted for landfill? That's a good question. I don't know for sure. That's just a concern. Our whole area is permitted by the state under one permit. Well, what I'm getting at, I guess, is we've got that property right south of Pulson's. Um would that be a good location? We wouldn't have to worry about permits. We've got we've got property there that we could use. It's very accessible.

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I think the reason for this location is because they're already hauling other wood debris out of there from our tree pile that we grind up. Well, so we would grind it. We would not grind this, but they're hauling other stuff with the same place, the same equipment from from our area. So, it's proximity. So, remember Ed, we have a contract with a gentleman. I think we approved at the last meeting, wasn't it? And they haul away all our tree waste and grind it up. And so the idea is that it would be hauled to the same location so they're not going to different places to pick up the waste. Oh, you mean after it's ground up?

2:12:00 – 2:12:190

No, before it's ground up. We grind up the tree waste, but these door skins would stay in their state as in the picture. Then they haul it all away. Two different piles. Okay. I I guess I don't see the difference, but go ahead. That's fine. Go ahead, Dick.

2:12:17 – 2:13:190

Mr. Mayor, thank you. Um I would like to motion um to authorize the mayor to negotiate and sign and have the city attorney draw up an agreement for the use of 1 acre of the transfer station land with the following recommendations. Payment will be at the per ton rate, the same as the contracted rate for tree and wood debris. Number two, all wood placed on the described area or described acre of land will meet the specifications of the city's permit with the state of Nebraska. Number three, if license fa if license e fails to abide by item number two, this agreement shall be terminated immediately. And number four, any damage to the land and or debris not contained will be cleaned up or repaired by LE within 48 hours of each incident. Second [snorts]

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uh motion by McNe, second by Lucas PJ. Yes, sir. Bill Hamilton, 818 Reed Avenue, North Plat. Thank you. Um, did you listen to those conditions and are they acceptable to you? Yeah, accepted. Okay. Any questions for PJ while he's standing here? Brian, hold on. I'm sorry. Go ahead, Brian. [clears throat] So, what's the anticipated time that this stuff is going to be put out there and then shipped out? We're hoping within a week, 10 days. Okay.

2:13:50 – 2:15:000

So, here's the deal. They're right now they're taking two 40 yard containers full of these skins at 10:00 in the morning, at 2 o'clock in the afternoon. What they do with them right now, they take them right to the landfill. They dump it, shove them into a truck, and they go right to Okala. Okay, which is a waste. So, you guys enter an agreement last week with Ryan Kman and you guys are more than welcome to go down there. I can get pictures for you. He's got about 10 12 rows or about a quarter mile long. He takes in about a 100 semi- loads of potatoes a year, rotted potatoes, mixes with dirt. He takes sawdust, mixes it in there. So the agreement with me and him are going to be he's got two semi- loads or 54 semi loads a year that's going to be pulled from that facility instead of being thrown away. He's going to take it down to his farm, mix it all in, mix the wood chips up. But he's got a machine that's going to grind those door skins up, mix them all in, and then he has this huge machine that goes over the top of it and grinds it all up and then he's let it fermentate. Then he uses it for fertilizer. Saves him about $1.4 million a year. We're just trying to keep it out of the landfill. Okay.

2:14:58 – 2:15:330

Yeah. Rod, thank you. So, they're going to pay us by the tongue to store it. Is that when it goes in they weigh the truck and Yep. actually when it goes out. When it goes out when the truck when it goes out. Goes out. Okay. And I assume how you going to keep them door skins from blowing all over when we have our 95 mph wind. That's why the position we picked, me and Lane talked, is it's in the in the bowl. It's dug out already. So it kind of go the wind goes over the top. [clears throat] We're hoping to get them out as fast as possible.

2:15:31 – 2:16:090

Yeah, that's the other thing. I mean, kind of like we do at the transfer station anyway, when it's high winds, we don't accept things because of the blowing. And so if there's a day when there's 90 mph winds, we just wouldn't accept it just like Oklahoma would accept stuff on high wind days. So, and again, like PJ said, hopefully they're in and out of there within, you know, week or 10 days. But by moving it to a different location, that'd be almost impossible because Ryan's running four trucks out of there a day. Why couldn't he just fill it up, pick them up there instead of running all the way across to Pulson? That wouldn't be feasible to us.

2:16:10 – 2:16:500

Go ahead, Red. Okay. So, describing that that process, PJ, um you're mixing in dirt. Is that is that dirt from the landfill and then you're hauling out dirt from the land? How he's got like he's got there's a bunch of resorts down there in Wallace area that are cattle resorts, you know. I call them resorts, but they take the manure there and then they haul them Gotcha. to his place and it's manure, dirt, stuff like that. You're you're bringing in materials to mix in. You're not using the the existing soil. Okay. Thank you. And we spread it over his land. You're right. We're not we're not selling it to nobody. We're specifically using it for his land. Other question. Ed.

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Yeah, Mr. Mayor. There seems to me like we've had some discussion about this in the past with cardboard and it sounds to me like this may be a golden opportunity for us to get rid of card. We already are. Ed, good deal. Just go ahead. One quick for Peach. Um, this will be an addition. He's still going to use our wood stuff, too, isn't he? He just needs more material. He just needs more material. God bless him. When you got 54 semiis, I mean, them semis are 54 53t long by They're extremely tall. That's just a ton of sawdust. Yep. That they're throwing away. Yep. Cool. Any other question, guys?

2:17:32 – 2:18:160

Any other questions or comments? Do you want to sit up there? [laughter] Give me 20 bucks. No. Okay. Uh, we have a motion and we have a second. Any other questions or comments? Okay. Call any question on number eight as motion. Number eight is passed as motioned. Number nine, election of council president for 2026. We would need an nomination. Mr. Mayor, I move to elect Jim Nisley as council president for 2026. Second.

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Mr. Mayor, I move the nominations to be closed. Second. [laughter] Hold on. BS. Second by Rody. Then we have a motion to close all nominations by Mr. Eer. Were you kidding or were you serious? You're serious. I'll [laughter] second that, Mr. Mayor. This process. Heck, guys. [laughter] All right. We have a motion and a second on the nomination of Jim Nestley calling the question. Sorry, Mr. Nestle. You're president. [laughter] Thank you, gentlemen. You do too. You do too good of a job.

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That's right. That's right. All right. Item number 10. and approve the claims. Mr. Mayor, I move that we pay the bills. Second. Motion by RER, second by Flanders. Calling the question on approving the claims. Claims are paid. Public agenda request. We respect our city employees and request that any complaints or criticisms of employees not be aired in a public meeting. Concerns about employees should be brought to the attention city administrator or the mayor. Individuals in violation will be declared out of order. If anyone has any requests for a public agenda request, please approach the microphone and tell us who you are and state your request. Mr. Rer, Mr. Mayor, I move that we adjourn.

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Second. Motion by RER, second by Vols to adjurnn. Calling the question on adjournment. Meetings adjourn. See you all in two weeks.

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