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Good evening. It is 6 o'clock. We're going to call this meeting to order. Roll call, please. Council member Alvarez, here. Council member Clark is absent this evening. Council member Selenus, here. Council member Click, here. Council member Saber here. Council member Bailey here. Council member Mcgrron here. Council member Fitzgerald here.

All right, we'll have the pledge of allegiance led by Council Member Alvarez to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Okay, we're going to do the approval of the agenda. And before we approve it, we are going to remove item 17, uh, public art mural program that needs a little bit more legal review. So, do we have a motion on the amended agenda?

Move to approve. Second. All in favor? Yes. opposed. Motion passes. Item five, comments from the public. If you are a member of the public wishing to speak, please approach the microphone, state your name and address for the record, and please keep your comments to five minutes. Thank you. [clears throat] I do have a comment that I need to read. Okay.

That was brought that was sent in. Best Bailey, 510 East 30th Avenue. Hi, I am disappointed to inform you all that the community enrichment advisory committee's first meeting of the year was cancelled due to a lack of quorum. The work our committee completed last year focused on a future path of what we would accomplish with a fully appointed committee. However, in the last two months of the year, we ended up losing about half of our working group through natural transitions and unfortunate work situations and other life circumstances. Right now, I feel stuck not just in our current socopolitical climate, but in the work I plan to do when I committed two more years to the committee. For those attending the meeting, either in person or virtually, if you have completed Citizens Academy or interested in being part of a committee that wants to make North Kansas City as wonderful as we claim, please consider joining the SEAK committee. I would love to sit down with you and talk about where we currently are, what I could see happening in the near future, and what I hope the next few years look like. To our wonderful city council, you committed to continue backing us and supporting us when we passed a name change and reestablish the purpose of our committee this past fall. I encourage you to have conversations with your constituents and constituents of other wards to see if they would be a good fit for the work we do. Consider asking about the committee for not just yourself, but someone you care about or know is interested in the topics we cover and any areas we want to support. I would love to be able to continue to meet monthly and move forward with our strategic plan. Thank you for your time. Best Bailey.

Thank you. Further public comments. Good evening.

Good evening. Uh good evening council members and thank you for the opportunity to speak. Rich Gross from the North Kansas City Business Council recommended that I come and just share for a few minutes about what Life Unlimited, which is headquarters in um North Kansas City does. So Life Unlimited is a nonprofit organization that supports people living with disabilities throughout the greater Kansas City area. Oh, my name is Julie Edlin. I'm the CEO there. Sorry about that. And we have been working for over 50 years in Kansas City. Um, Life Unlimited was a name created when five long-term organizations joined together. Immaculata Manor in Liberty, Concerned Care here in North Kansas City, Open Options in United Cable Paly in Jackson County, um, in Northwest Missouri and St. Joe, we had Merryill, and we had another smaller provider in Jackson County join. And together we became the largest provider of services for people with disabilities. We have over 500 employees now. Um, many of them live in Klay County. And when we all got together, we were trying to figure out where our headquarters needed to be. We had different locations. We have 74 homes and eight other buildings that we operate. And we chose North Kansas City and 320 Armor Road um to stay there and build out that building for our headquarters. One, we love North Kansas City. You're vibrant. You're easy to get to. And the sense of kind of community and partnership is really incredible here. You can't find that anywhere else in our greater community. So, we love North Kansas City. Um, our we have various programs. We have a large community living program, which I talked about. We have 74 homes where we support people around the clock. And those homes, some of them we rent, but many of them we own. And uh we have built about 14 homes in the last few years. And right now, one of our biggest projects is the Trails Neighborhood. It's in Liberty. And you can look up the Trails Neighborhood. And it will be it's on 46 acres. um right in the heart of Liberty and we already have five homes there but

when it concludes we'll have 30 homes where people living with the disabilities will live together interact have a clubhouse and 20% of the homes will be for people without disabilities where we're partnered with other nonprofits. There are no communities neighborhoods like this in the entire state of Missouri. There are a few in other states. So we're really excited to be building the first community here. We have built the infrastructure. We have gone through the water uh dilemma of who provides the water and got that figured out. We've built the road in the first six homes. We will start building those uh next month. Another new initiative we have is Latte Life. We are building a coffee shop on Armor Road next to our headquarters. Uh and what we're excited about that is it will be a part of a workforce development where people who live with disabilities will come into our employment program and we will train them. They can get a barista certificate, food handler's license, um a point, learn how to work Square, the point of sales system, which is a number one system that most businesses use, learn about hospitality, uh learn about inventory, and then we'll work with them to place in community jobs in the hospitality industry. That's a kind of a an area where they're really lacking um long-term employees. So, we feel that we can have a good partnership with that. And when somebody is in our program, we don't just place them and walk away. We help the employers uh make sure that it's a successful match. If the employer says it's not a good fit, we'll find them another job. But if that person needs continuous training, we're there to help. So, we're really excited about building that uh right here in North Kansas City and having some really great coffee on Armor Road. Uh we also provide recreation program. Um if you have a person who's living with a developmental disability or any disability in your home and you need a worker to help support, we have various programs that can help with that too. Um, and again, we've been providing these services for over 50 years, and we're just excited to talk about those. Let's see. Well, I talked about our good things and all that we do. Again, we're just so

excited to be a part of the North Kansas City community and this as our headquarters. And if you'd love to come tour us or find out more, I have cards and I'll meet you after this. Thank you so much. Excellent. Thank you. And and thank you for the work you do. If if any of you haven't met the team at Life Unlimited, they're phenomenal. They're at all the the business council meetings and uh I am just so very excited for Latte Life once it once it gets rolling. Um ever since I heard a whisper about that, I've been just very excited. So great idea and stellar name as well. Love that. And and don't forget the great views from their top of the building.

Oh yes. Yeah. Second to none. Great. Yeah, that's right. Rooftop. You need to rent a rooftop. it goes to a good cause. Um, further public comments. Good evening, Jessica 2112 FET Street. Uh, months ago, I began asking this council to get ahead of what many of us could clearly see coming. I was recently told that conversations with the police department were happening behind the scenes. uh and they're assisting or not assisting immigration enforcement. At what point are we as a community going to be informed about what is happening and what you guys are doing to prepare?

Can you speak into the microphone, please?

We have scared members in this community, marginalized people who not because they're not citizens, not because they don't belong here, but just because we're brown um and because we see what's happening, we have eyes. Uh, preparation does not happen in silence. I six months ago I asked you guys to prepare. Six months ago, multiple times since then I've asked. Preparation looks like communicating with the community. Preparation looks like researching what the city can do, what it's required to do, and what it's not required to do. Preparation looks like identifying who in this community is most vulnerable. Developing action plans to protect them. Preparation looks like informing residents of their rights and ensuring the police department understands the rights that they're tasked with protecting. Right now, again, many communic many community members are waiting for any communication from any of you. Radio silence is what we've had. Immigration enforcement isn't the only concern in the geopolitical landscape of what's happening right now. We are not prepared for anything. I need to be very clear about why I no longer trust this body to protect marginalized people in this community. Given recent events, Jesse, your behavior towards me, including what I experienced as a targeted, mildly racist vendetta, made it clear that community voices are only welcome here when they align with whatever agenda. A personal grudge you decided you had was turned into a public spectacle. My qualifications and merits were never discussed. Instead, this entire council allowed a dehumanizing, retaliatory, and slanderous conversation about my character in a public setting. Beyond that, Jesse, I'm Facebook friends with you. So after this happened, I did a little search of your Facebook and I

found that you didn't previously have a problem with casually engaging in speech that is widely considered to be hate speech against people like me. Beyond that, uh, at the public forum, [snorts] people who have never met me cited individuals with a documented history of hostility towards me as justification for why I was supposedly unfit to serve. A letter opposing my appointment was emailed to the mayor by the committee chair, Bess Bailey, rather than by the person who was claimed to have sent it. More importantly, public comments were selectively invited and in ways that I have rarely seen done. Ivonne, you sent me a hateful message, a bigoted message on Facebook. I sent it to this city. I complained. I've heard nothing. Instead, my daughter sits here and [snorts] listens to you say that I am a troublemaker and that my bad qualities outweigh my good. Even though you said we've never had a problem before until I said I don't want to communicate with bigots. I know you did. The rest of you sat here and allowed falsehoods to stand. went so far as to claim I was dangerous to the committee because I showed up to a public public work session. All of you, with the exception of a few of you, I'm so sorry, Kristen. You actually were wonderful that day. But the rest of you have served long enough to know what a public work session is. To claim I was uninvited and showed up ridiculous. In 2020, after I spoke about police oversight, I was followed and intimidated by members of our police force. That only stopped when I publicly thanked Officer Ward for stopping and having a chat with me. What I didn't explain was that that wasn't a chat. He parked behind my car in a Hawaiian Bros. while I was with my daughter prevented me from leaving and forced a

conversation with me where he informed me he knew my vehicle, the officer see me around town and he just wanted to make sure we were good. Since then, I've been deliberately careful about speaking up about our police force because I don't feel safe and because intimidation works. I just want to exist in my own community. This pattern of behavior in this city matters. If this is how you treat a vocal, informed, marginalized member of this community that's a US citizen, what can we expect from you for anybody else? I am disappointed. I want you all to do better. I'm a little disgusted that this is the body that serves us right now.

Thank you. Further public comments? Seeing none, we'll move on to the consent agenda. Do we have a motion on the consent agenda? Move to approve. Second. All in favor? Yes. Any opposed? Motion passes. Regular item number 13, North Kansas City Composting Adoc Committee update. Who do we have for this one?

All right. We can table it. Yeah, the the committee was supposed to be here tonight, but we'll look into it. Something came up. Okay. We Yeah, if it's okay, we'll should Do we need February meeting move to table or just we go ahead and push it? Okay, we'll just push it. All right. Uh item 14, calendar year 2026, KCATA service contract amendment route 238. Good evening. Uh good evening. Uh I am back way earlier than I had hoped to be. Um [laughter] we're always happy to see you, Bryce. Uh where would you like me to begin?

Uh yeah. Okay. So, as you [clears throat] know, we have a contract with uh Kansas City, Missouri uh for services that goes generally from May to April. Uh that contract specifies the contract amount and the cost uh and then the services provided similar to our contract as well. uh Can City approached us letting us know um that uh they would not be able to meet the financial obligations of that contract as it was written and we needed to reduce service uh in order to meet the available budget they had. Um we our planning scheduling staff uh laid out a variety of uh options and they selected the options primarily to reduce two routes that had uh low ridership and then to reduce the hours to between uh 6:00 and 11 p.m. So cutting off hours prior to 6 a.m. uh and certain routes that have hours after 11 p.m. Uh and that is uh what North K City or excuse me Kansas City Missouri ultimately selected to do. Uh and that is effective February 15th. we uh had to make a special case to um change these services not on a quarter. Normally we make changes on a quarter because that's what our union contract um allows. Uh we had to go to the union because to request an change in that situation again because these changes need to be h need to happen um as soon as possible to meet Kansas's budget. Uh that's where it comes to you guys. Uh one of the routes that got selected to have its hours tapered was the 238. Um and we unfortunately had just signed a contract with you guys uh for the next 12 months. Um and so we have approached you and to say we need to uh amend the contract and to reduce the uh hours the morning hours of the 238 with um of course there would be a uh return or reduction in um your local share on a monthly basis. Um, I appreciate that and I understand kind of the 8,000 pound gorilla in the room is going to be Kansas City. If they can't or won't provide funding for certain routes, it's hard to have those routes continue to exist in their

current form. Um, what we've got before us is the 238 schedule. Um, previously started at 452, uh, is now going to start at 610. Uh, and this is on weekdays. This seems to be the biggest point of concern among the community is the start point and then you mentioned in in an email uh chain that I've been on. There's a little confusion on whether it starts northbound or southbound and how that'll impact the pickups. Can you Yes. And I will fully say that was my mistake. I misunderstood when talking to my planning scheduling team what that case is. So the route starts at 610 um and that's going to start with a northbound route in like starts in downtown or correct. Okay.

Yeah. Um, what I will also say, uh, working, uh, quite rapidly today with my planning scheduling team, a proposed option, uh, if you guys wanted to start, and we couldn't do this February 15th, we could do this in April. If you guys wanted to start a 238 route, um, starting in North Kansas City for a southbound run prior to that, and then meet up and start restart the 610 run, we could look at that. your cost would still go down um even with that. Um but we could start looking we could uh schedule that, price that um and then we could start that in April.

That's quite literally what I wrote down to propose to you. So I'm glad you uh you came with that. So if I'm understanding correctly, uh it could start in North Kansas City, land at the downtown southern terminus of the route at 610, and then start back on the the plan route. So we would get that first pickup. I mean, we'd still lose the very first pickup, but we get that pickup. Yes. Through North Kansas City to get the people into downtown for work that need it. And All right. So, help me out with the timing. You said it couldn't start in February. It would need to be pushed toward April. It' be pushed towards our normal uh quarterly markup, which I believe it's the first Sunday in April, which I think is the 4th. Um, I'll go with you on that. I don't have my calendar.

I don't have it up on me, apologies. Um, but we could start it then. So, basically, we'd have a month and a half gap of that first southbound run. Not being until uh like around 7:00 a.m. Okay. And so, the changes would go into effect, remind me when the new April Well, so February 15th. Yes.

They would they would change to the um 610 start and then feasibly April 6th, which is the first Okay. April 6th, it could go potentially back depending on how discussions go, but I think that would be a great compromise. And I'm I'm seeing head nods from our chief bus correspondent in the back here. Um, any questions from the council on this? Council member Alvarez, just a quick question. What time would it leave North Kansas City? I guess the first one. So, if we did the the modified version potentially in April,

right? Uh it would um so I think typically and I I I cannot say at this time it would it would be prior to 6 a.m. It'd probably be around 5:30 um would be my guess. Um so would start with a short 30-minute run down to Kansas City, Missouri. The bus driver would have his 10 to 15 minute um uh break time. Uh it's not what we call it, but whatever. Break time essentially. Um a little lax time. Yeah. And then would start pick up again at the 610 uh time to go go northbound. back. So essentially start with the amount of time to land at 610 at the southern terminus of the perfect. Um, sound good. Uh, council member Saber.

Uh, it seems like we really don't have much leeway here or many options. it. Uh yeah, we would very much appreciate um [clears throat] your guys's understanding that when Casey Mo has to make a change. We don't have a lot of options in that either because they are again primarily our primary uh our budget's made primarily of the Kansas City Missouri uh contract. I understand that. Yep. And the good part here is that we have two routes. uh one being a major spine route which I would speculate doesn't get targeted in future cuts and the 238 which is getting targeted on the first cut to a point that we can live with and hopefully in future cuts they leave it alone. I agree with that. All right.

Yes, sir. Um I just couldn't remember off top of my head. I'm guessing it doesn't start at 5:30, but is the either like the flex route or guest would they be running that early as kind of a fill in for the interm until April? I don't think they start that early. I think they're 7:00. I believe guest your guest starts at 7. It's 7. Y that tough hour. I mean, it is it's low ridership, but the ones who do ride it need it. That's that's a tricky spot to to be transit. All right. Any other questions for Bryce? Uh, do we need a motion on the amendment? No. Okay. Generally in favor kind of thing. I mean,

again, not a lot of opportunity for much push back, but I do appreciate the problem solving and we'll look to bring that back in April. Actually, we'll come back. It was adopted with by an ordinance. So, we'll come back at the next meeting with an amending ordinance. Okay. To the contract. That'll work. That'll get us in ahead of the February 15th anyway. Yep. Very good. Hey, easy peasy. Yeah. Thank you very much, guys. Thank you so much. All right. Item 15. Draft final wastewater master plan council presentation by Vinstra and Kim. Good evening.

Good evening, Mayor, members of the council. My name is Tim Grahamling. I work for Eastern Chem Engineering. Uh we were the engineering firm that was fortunate enough to be selected to uh provide this project for the city. Um so uh and to work with the city staff to develop this. So we're here tonight to kind of give a a review of kind of the findings and recommendations that we came up with during this plan. Um I'm here tonight with two of the project engineers that worked on this that developed a lot of the components of the plan as well as the model and and basically what was one of the deliverables as a working model for the city and and that'll be demonstrated a little bit tonight as well. So uh with that I'll just kind of turn that over to them.

Hi I'll introduce myself first. Um my name's uh Roselia Mush and I was one of the engineers on this project. So to kind of kick things off, um this slide kind of hits the highlights of chapters 1 through six. So we started the project with doing an inventory of the city's um sanitary sewer collection system. And this involved making some updates to the city's GIS system and kind of collecting some of the attribute information that we needed to build the 3D model. So that included um manhole rim and pipe invert elevations, pipe diameters, pipe lengths. Um and then we also did a uh we performed inspections throughout the sanitary sewer collection system um at key locations within the system. And the results of that show that the collection system that we inspected generally was in good condition with some minor maintenance items required. And we also performed flow monitoring in the city's collection system to kind of develop a baseline understanding of the dry and wet weather flows um that are occurring in the collection system. And that data was used for the model. So chapter 7 um kind of summarizes the results of our hydraulic model. So I guess I should explain the biggest wet weather event that we mon or that we monitoring that we measured during the monitoring period occurred on August 13th and this was a relatively moderate storm. It was between a 2-year and a 5-year recurrence interval which is pretty moderate and um no over topping of your manhole structures occurred during this rain event. So to kind of understand when failures would occur, we simulated some design storms in the

model and those are shown on the tables to the right there. And the results of that showed that the system has um generally the capacity to convey wet weather flows. So the only um storm where we really experience over topping is a 6-h hour 100red-year storm event. This is a highintensity short duration event. It's not one that we would use for a design of a sanitary collection system, but like I said, this whole process was to kind of understand the hydraulic capacity of your system and to determine when failures occur. So that was the event that we used as a stress test on the system and that's where we're seeing over topping occur.

Can I ask a quick question on this chart? Yeah. So 6 hour 100year at 6.6 six inches of total rainfall did over top. But the 24h hour at 8.86 didn't. Yes. So that's just based on the duration. So like I said, 6 hour you're condensing the rainstorm into a smaller amount of precipitation worse when it's six inches fall in six hours. We're Yeah, we're in a bad way. Okay, thank you. Yeah, and feel free to chime in if you have any other questions. Um so then I'll move on to show kind of some demonstrations of the model here. Um so it's difficult to can we play you have a presentation. Sorry. Yeah. You

jump in the mic there so that people at home can hear. I'm used to being loud. So Okay. It's difficult to show you a model. That's not really something you So Roselia made a couple videos. We were just going to show you two if they can work. Is it? No. I don't know if I can play these. That's why I was kind of bothered. Nope. I ruined it. Here you go. All right. Well, we can we can describe it. If you ever want a work session, we can demonstrate the model for you, but basically she went through Oh, here we go. Thank you. Awesome.

So, this is your observed event. You'll see there's the water down in the pipe. It's exaggerated for view, but up at the top is the ground, and that's your manhole sticking up. So, the the concept is let's watch the storm. Let's watch the rain water hit the sanitary system as well. See what happens. Are you going to have flooding? You don't. It doesn't flood. Um, so that's where she pushed it. We won't make you watch every video because we know we're going to be long-winded. Um, [clears throat] let's see if we can go. Oh, that's the one. Perfect. Can you do play on this one as well? Thank you. Oh, perfect. Yes. So, if you had a hundredyear storm over six hours in this area, and she's got the map there highlighted in the corner, you'd see over topping. Was that a manhole geyser?

Basically, now again, it's very expedited, so it wouldn't be that. But technically, if you actually had a hundred-year storm come in a six-h hour window, that area would flood. Okay. And for clarification, that's the only area that would flood under those conditions. Yeah. So the table there, if you look in the report, we kind of have a heat map showing where you have um hypothetical locations over topping, but this was the primary area um just because it's relatively shallower than the rest of your collection system. Like the manhold depths are shallower. So this is where it's going to overflow first according to the model. Under that condition, how long would it take to drain?

It went back down. It it depends on the event, but um the one few hours, the one described here, correct? It was a few hours. It'd be a few hours, right? Um, but again, if we were designing this system from scratch, you would not design to a 100redyear storm over six hours. You'd probably design to a 100redyear storm over 12 hours. The only reason we modeled this is because we weren't seeing over topping at a 100redyear storm in 12 hours. So, we we pushed it. But yes, but it a few

destruct testing. And and again real quick just that this is waste water so sanitary sewer manholes. We do experience storm water flooding in that area as well which is unrelated. Um well kind of related but unrelated but yeah this is from INI basically when we see surch charges in the system when we get rains. Okay. So I think we kind of have more of the same. Um we can play this one too. This is the 12-hour event that doesn't show any over topping. Um, but the video is a little longer because this is a 12-h hour storm. So, we can kind of keep moving through, but you can see it kind of rise up and that's what the water's doing. So, that's what this I'm sorry.

Oh, yeah. That the like you mentioned, this is the model. That's this is a tool for you moving into the future. If you have developments that come in, if you change the use of different areas, we can input different usage factors. Um, and you can kind of see what your capacity is depending upon storm events and different users being in the area. Um, not to derail us, but uh, this is sanitary sewer. This is not supposed to have rainwater in it. Correct. But it does. Correct. So there and we can give you a whole there's inflow, there's infiltration. Yeah. I've got INI written down as a question. So

yes. Now you'll end the report that Roselia did a nice job writing. You don't have such excessive INI that we think you need to go spend millions of dollars on your collection system. Some communities the peaking factor is so huge that you're saying you've got a system you don't need. You use it once a year. We're not seeing that with you. You have INI. Everyone has INI. There's some work you can do, but we don't see any giant red flags based on the peaking factors. Yeah. Because we outsource our sewer treatment and that ini is dollar for dollar we're paying each gallon that gets in. So it could be a cost savings but depending on the level. So do you see any geographic area where the INI is more intense?

Yes. And and that's detailed in the report we kind of broke you into phases. Okay. And part of it we said if you want to do some more lining televising smoke testing we tell you which basin to start with. Um so in the report each chapter she kind of breaks down in this basin your peaking factor is two. In this basin it's 10. So it it highlights what areas you'd want to focus on. So it gives us that opportunity to Yes. Okay. Thank you. Very good. Sorry to keep interrupting. This is what we It's better. Good. Good.

Okay. All right. So this is again the same type of video. This is for a buildout condition. And so we did look at a um potential buildout condition and essentially since the city's relatively already built out, we added in um population assuming vertical growth. So even with that addition, we're still not seeing any over topping uh compared to the existing condition which is great. So that's just what this slide is showing here. Okay. So to recap that um again the sanitary sewer system generally does have capacity to convey your wet weather flows and the model can be used in the future if the city has um specific redevelopment coming in and they want to assess what the impacts will be on the collection system. We're able to use the model to do that. So

I'll pass it over to Libby.

Yes, that that wasn't the only thing we were taxed with. like you mentioned, you guys do not treat your waste water. Right now, your sanitary system, it's um gravity for Spain's pump stations, not the treatment facility that goes to Kansas City, Missouri. So, we said, let's see what the capacity of your system is, what kind of money you might need to put into it. Well, what would it cost to build you a plant of your own? And to kind of compare that to the rates you're currently being charged, knowing that there's unknown future. I could give you a 30 minute speech on this. I will not. I'm gonna say very high level, but interrupt as you have questions. Um, we looked at different alternatives for treatment. Um, wanted to see if the different kind of treatment process had a large variation and what your expense would be. Not really. Um, I ran through two alternatives. One's an oxidation ditch, one's a sequent react sequential batch reactor. Um, they came in between 97 million and 98 million in project cost. That includes engineering, design, permitting, construction, contractor overhead. It's a huge number, but you'd be surprised how many communities are getting tasked with costs of this level to upgrade or improve their existing wastewater plants. Um, on top of that, you get a building, you you brand build a brand new plant, it costs money to run it. So, we estimated your O andM power cost, chemical cost, additional employees. That's at 1.3 million. So, I said if you're going to use SRF loan, maybe your 20 year, maybe your 30-year terms change depending upon when you're doing the project. All in, it looks like you'd be spending between 5.7 million to 7 million a year to repay the loan to construct it and to uh operate and power that plant.

So that's all including O andM interest carry debt service everything is that 5.7 to 7 million. Correct. All wrapped in. Correct. But but just for the plant. So that's additional expenses. That's not any of the expenses for your current system. Right.

Yep. So, we compared that to what you pay Kansas City right now to take your wastewater and that's a a huge range which you know um you 5.5 million to 11.8 million per year. 5.5 seems to be the baseline. I know you mentioned INI. Yes, if you're sending rainwater to Kansas City, they are charging you to treat that too. Um the bigger factors seem to be uh o too high of biological loadings which is your industrial user. You get fined from Kansas City. you pass that on to your industry. Um,

but those come from fines. So, if we're comparing how much money could you bring in if you were collecting the revenue from sewer rates versus paying Kansas City, you'd have to figure out where you are between the 5.5 and 11.8. If if your industrial user made operational changes and stayed within a treatment agreement, they're not getting hit with search charges and they're paying the 5.5 maybe $6 million. So, the long and short of it was it's in the realm of expenses. It is more expensive than your baseline fees. Um, but if if this user was not willing to consistently stay in the limits, there's a potential it becomes cost- effective.

But, oh, and money's not the only thing you want to look at. So, I got a couple more quick slides. Here's a layout. This was alternative one. Here's alternative two. The only option is to build it down where your Bedford lift station is. Um there are some concerns about the site. So we said non-economic factors. There's a power utility that runs north to south on the east end. They'd have to relocate that. There's a water man that cuts between the Bedford and where we would put this. That would have to be relocated. There's a hospital just to the north of the highway. Depending upon where exactly the tanks of wastewater lie, there are sight separation requirements. You may have to work through a waiver process with the hospital on that. Um, and then this is in a levy district, which means you're probably going to have to get permits from the core. All of these things are accomplishable, but they make the process difficult and they're just added things to have to work through if you're looking to do this project.

Adds to the cost as well, I am sure.

Correct. Correct. And so we have some estimates in there for that, but you you don't know what some of these people are going to want to negotiate. Um, the other non-economic factor is staffing it. So, you'd need a licensed operator. Um, in Missouri, in the Midwest in general, but particular Missouri, a licensed operator, if you do their age pool, it's heavily weighted towards retirement. We're not getting enough young people into wastewater operation. It's actually a great career. I wish someone would go around to high schools. Um, but it's difficult to uh hire and keep a licensed operator. You could be looking at a second shift. So, even if you were able to bring staff on in the beginning, how difficult is it to maintain public work staff for a second shift, weekends and evenings? was person. So personnel cost is not part of the O andM.

It is part of the on and I have a cost in there but you could afford it. Can you find the people? Right. Okay. Yes. Um and then the other piece is the responsibility becomes yours. If you own your own wastewater plant, you are subject to any future limits from Missouri DNR or from the EPA. So that's the benefits of the do nothing. you don't have those responsibilities, but you're at the whim of their rate structure and they could be sending you um updated limits for both BOD TSS sulfates and if that becomes too difficult of a negotiation, it may make this alternative more attractive.

So, a couple questions on this. The the range is wild, the 5.5 to 11.8. Um, like what was the 11.8 scenario? Is that when we swapped the meter out and No, that was that was getting fines. That was I don't know. You talk to that. Yeah. So, when we talk about our industrial users are significant and we've talked about that before, the BOD the suspended solids, those are factored in a much higher, you know, when those are high depending on what our industries are doing, it really reflects what we're paying to Kansas City. Sure.

Now, those costs are collected, passed on. Um, but that all goes into the calculus of this entire thing that actually weighs in very heavily on, you know, this this component of the study. Um, I really want to thank Vince and Kim because they, you know, this was a very small component of the study when it kind of started to, you know, well, this is interesting. It's not as far out of the realm of possibilities as one would think. they really dove in and you know tried to collect a lot of information go kind of above and beyond what you know was in the original scope. Um you know I would say you know we really want to look at this closer because because of those industrial loadings our system is very variable I guess. Gotcha. Okay. So it's it's the total dissolved solids and industrial users that are just

creating that giant flood. Now, we're collecting fees off of that, correct? Remitting it, but that's still just a base number paid over and we would be internalizing all of that. Correct. And so, with the the rate structure, it's if you exceed your limit, you get hit with fines and penalties and a higher charge per pound of BOD, per pound of solids. So, that's a piece of it, too. And it it goes up pretty quickly. If we net out the fines to the industrial users, what's the base average? 5.5 H because that's the number I'm we can pass those one to one whether we control it or not. It's the other side of it that would be more interesting. I don't know that you ever had a year without a single, you know, exceedence, but I I think 5.5 is probably a safe baseline.

Okay. Um, second question. All this is fascinating because these numbers are nowhere near what I expected. I thought it'd be way too expensive to ever finance and operate our own sewage treatment stuff. Um, what about capex? Is that incorporated anywhere in this? No, not in those ones. But so you would want to look at that and in theory everything has a life. So a pump is 15 years and same with the motor. The concrete lasts a long time. So that helps. And a big part of this investment is concrete tankage. But you would want to have um a depreciation fund that's probably nearing a million dollars a year as well. Yep. And there some of the O andM does like if if it's a pump or a motor, I include that in the onm because they get replaced so quickly. more long-term pieces would probably be

so has those O andM numbers and the annual expense is that amortizing the long life stuff? It is. Yes. Okay. Wow. I know. Not as bad as [clears throat] I thought. Not at that. Which we were shocked with as well when we first I thought, "Oh, the numbers going to be so high. We're not even going to have to do a figure." But we just kept honing into it. it it would be you'd need to have a lot of conversations with your industrial user on the front end and get a lot more samples of their waste to specifically see what we need for industrial pre-treatment because there's a huge variable on chemical cost. If they if they have something we don't know about that gets blended into Kansas City where they have so many industrial users, all of a sudden you could have an additional 600,000 in chemical costs a year.

Very fair. Uh okay, sorry. Last question. uh when you calculated the loan interest expense, what sort of rate are we using is that one? So that was more like probably like six months ago SRF loans. So I I think you're going to be higher. It it was like 2% or under, you know, 1.65 and then there's a little administrative fee if it's 20-year, 1.9, but then another administrative fee for a 30-year. I I don't anticipate the interest rate staying there. I I I anticipate your crystal ball is accurate. Yes. Okay. Okay. So, that could increase all these costs as well. Very good. Council member Bailey, uh, too much two questions. Uh, one, let's just say we magically say, you know, agreed yes is the right thing. What is the time to build out?

Yeah, it's a great question. Um, you're probably looking at two years to design and permit because you are negotiating with other utilities. We're talking about the core, we're talking about industrial user. So, two years to design and permit. um depending upon you know if you do do design build if you do see SE what your construction method is another year to two to build and some of it's going to be procurement as well especially um generators transfer switches anything with an electric component right now has a they count them in weeks but I don't know why if you say 80 weeks to me say years but that's we just ordered we just ordered a generator for Bedford uh down there and it took like eight months to get that generator we ordered it last fiscal year it's been bouncing around yeah it's hard Cool.

Very good. Second question is capacity. So is this dram you know these facilities at roughly $100 million. Do we have a lot of room that if we added substantially that all of a sudden we would cap out as well? So that it's sized for your peak like your maximum month where you do have INI. So we have a little bit of growth in there but not a lot. I think you would either you'd have to make that decision. um if you want to save room for some vertical infrastructure, are you going to target more of that wet weather flow or do you want to oversize your facility, but this is really designed for today what you're sending Kansas City?

Very good question. If we're building something this exper want to futureroof it and build in some conscious growth. So, do these numbers scale linearly linear? They're actually not that bad because like contractor overhead, mobilization, permanent, those are the really like a you know 20 30% is pretty bulk. If we're getting slightly bigger on a concrete tank, it it's not linear. Okay. Councor Fitzgerald,

I'm going to apologize in advance because I don't know all the right terminology to phrase this correctly, but um kind of generally I'd have some concern of say we build out this big plant and I know a lot of our wastewater is concentrated in one entity. You know, if the entity leaves, do we end up with a plant that we is massively overbuilt for our city? like do we have any any data on like what percent is contracted or not contracted? What percent of the total is made up by that one entity?

That's a really good question. I don't have that on the top of my head. I would say if you wanted to do this, you would need to come to a special agreement with that industry, otherwise it wouldn't be feasible. Um that really just protects usually for the construction cost. you can get them to do a purchase capacity and agree to repay their portion of the construction loan regardless of if they stay in town, but then that doesn't protect you against future O and M. That's always going to be a risk. Um, but yeah, I that might be in the report

at least 50%. Yes. And like we have a large pre-treatment uh I'm the wrong way. A large the those big giant rectangles at the top, those are pre-treatment digesttors strictly for your industrial user. So that's a big expense to put in there if they weren't all tied to one entity basically. Great great questions. Great qu council member Saber. I want to thank you for this report. I've been wondering about this and pushing for information on these options and now we actually have some information and data to work with and make some decisions because we need to make some decisions on this. Thank you very much.

Absolutely. I know and I know it did take a long time. A big piece was calibrating that model because our preliminary results were your collection system is in good shape, which is a good answer. But before we could come and tell you that and say consider $100 million here, we wanted to make sure you didn't have $3 million hidden in your collection system. Yeah.

Which you do have some work to do there, too. Sorry. You'll you have the whole report in front of you. We hit with standard and I'll let Tim really quickly talk about these here. Um, so I'm a former public works department uh director and so I'm an operations guy. Um, I'm in engineering too, but mostly operations. So I get to cover this part. So um, what we're talking about here, what we So when we talked about INI in your system, most of that actually you have a bigger problem with inflow than you do infiltration. Your system was lined back in the 90s. It's actually what we found is actually still in pretty good shape. So that that lining is holding up really well. Um, so most of the issue as far as any any capacity issues that may be caused by anything would be the inflow, which is storm water getting into the system through places where it's not supposed to. Your system did have some combined sewer system in the past. It was addressed, but there still could be some connections that were missed or just overlooked or there could be some connections that were made, you know, since that was done. Uh, catch basins, um, those types of things, drains, u, so area drains and that kind of thing. So there is some some storm water getting to it somewhere. So that was one of the recommendations is as for um a CIP even though it's an operational related issue. You can make a project out of it to go in and do a detection and elimination program where you go in and target some areas. You do smoke testing to find where it comes out and then do some targeted CCTV where you put a camera in the line and and vet those things out to find out where those places are and then eliminate those. So that's one way. It's probably the one of the cheapest ways to gain capacity in your system. it's a lot better than having to go in and you know separate systems or increase lines and those kind of things. Um, another thing that we found during the uh process, so during our flow monitoring, we were getting into manholes to find the right places to put the flow monitors. And in that process, we found a few, we weren't in a lot of manholes. We were only in maybe eight or nine of them or something like that. But we found a couple of manholes

where that lining I talked about was actually coming away from the manhole walls. And some of the manholes are actually really old brick manholes and where that lining is coming away, there's water getting trapped behind there. So, we kind of identified that as that could be a potential problem, you know, but if it's only in those one or two, it's not a huge big deal. But the thing is is we just didn't know because we didn't get into you have over 700 manholes. So, we don't know how big that problem is. So, one of one of our recommendations is to maybe do like a pilot program where you go in and inspect every manhole and find out how big of an issue it is. And then if it is, then you can kind of develop a program where you can go in, maybe pick a few of those manholes, say six, eight, maybe 10 of them. And there's there's multiple different ways to do the linings on those and different types of materials. And um you might want to go in and test out like you know do do uh divide those up and try out maybe three to four methods to find out which ones you like, what the costs on those are, what the meth what the material would be to do that and then pick the one that you want and then apply that method and the cost that you get from that to the number that you find on what you need and then depending on how big a number that is. You know, you might have to do that in a phased approach if it's too big where you maybe do so many a year over time. Uh but that would be another recommendation we would have and and for your CIP.

Tim, real quick. So we do think that problem [clears throat] with the manholes is probably a little more widespread than we would like to know. Um the information that they gathered through this planning process, you know, this was a very large study, very comprehensive of the whole system. Um we learned things along the way. We learned things as we approached uh fiscal year changes. So, in this fiscal year, we already have a lot of what Tim's talking about about getting into inspections and looking into that. Um, so that's just more information that will be coming, but yeah, the pipes, you know, short of it is the pipes look good. The manholes maybe not so much. Um, but that's yeah, kind of the cliffotes version for Yeah. Good. Yeah. Very good.

And then a few more items. You have pump stations. You have three pump station. Burlington, 19th, and Bedford. Burlington, leave it alone for now because you have to do work at the other two. um 19th Street. The the pumps are old. They've reached the end of their useful life. They're still functioning, but we reviewed a draw down test and they seem to be about half capacity. That can happen when pumps get too old. Um you can have issues with cavitation and you can have the impellers get worn and that affects the capacity. So, we recommend replacing the pumps at 19th Street, but I don't know that you need to do much more work at this time there because Bedford lift station could use some attention. Um, some of this is an if then because the Bedford lift station is your final stop. That's where you send everything to K City, Missouri. So, if you're building a wastewater plant or considering it, I don't know that I can ask you to put $7 million into the Bedford lift station. So, so this is a lot of your consideration. If you are not building a wastewater plant, you need to do some serious work at Bedford. Um, mostly centered around safety. So, I'll get back to pictures. This is what the pump station looks like. Um, you come in a grade and you go down two levels of basement. It's where everything comes. So, it makes sense. The wastewater comes in very deep. How it was designed, it was retrofitted from a headworks building, but you're supposed to have a dry side and a wet side. So, the pumps are all the way down below the basement. They go through a concrete wall. That's where your waste water is. Everything on the dry side is supposed to have no waste water, no sewer gases. Um, also the code in this 80s was not the same as it is today. So, none of your electric components are explosionproof. Um, everything over there is absolutely exposed to sewer gases. Uh, a little bit to an alarming rate. There was some failures. You have a sump pump and it just has a small pipe that pokes through the wall to get anything out into the wet well side. There was a failure on that check valve. So, this station has flooded multiple times. Your staff has

worked very hard to clean it after each flooding. you you cannot clean everything out. I mean, so two stories of sewage flooded this building. So everything you see, the brown on the walls is the remnants of the sewage. Um it's it's a humid environment. It's exposed to gases. So all of those pipes and bolts are corroded. You had an elbow blow out at one point. So again, waste water from the pump could not go through the pipe because it broke and instead filled the room. Um, so I think you Yes. Yeah. This is where a picture is genuinely worth a thousand words. Yes, it is. Yes. Goodness.

Yeah. But so the city is taking the safety piece very seriously. You've installed updated gas monitors. They have a buddy system. No one can go in there on their own. So as far as um worker health and being exposed to sewer gases, you are doing everything you can right now. Um you need to either replace or completely renovate this facility. We also did buy a very large generator for it because one of the things is that we do not have backup power generation at any of these stations if they go down. Not quite sure what where that's going to where that problem will surface. So the pipes stop [clears throat] moving. So we're actively working on addressing some of these with the knowledge that Bedford is probably going to be need to be replaced andor yes renovated or replaced. But

yeah, that that that is the question. I mean it we've got some money budgeted for repairs, but should we do that if we're going to replace it? And what is the what is our time scale here? And how urgent is it and when you know where do we go? Right. So I I would say fairly urgent. Do you want to piggyback something in there? Do Yeah. Do you have immediate redundancy if you lost a pump today? We have some backup plans to get pumps in to pump over to Kansas City. There's an alternate sewer that we can go to across Rock Creek. It is not an ideal situation. Okay. They've had to do it before when the force man broke between here and Kansas City. We don't have anything on the shelf though. Not on the shelf. No.

Yes. And even if you do, I mean the the the bolts and the fittings of those pumps, it's it's cumbersome. Um so yeah. Yes. And you can see all the electrical components.

So there's two things to do. One would be a complete rehab. If you want if you want to keep this station and as much of the structure as you can, you're replacing the pumps, you're replacing all the piping, you're doing new ventilation to try and get the air out. Every piece of electric equipment controls is replaced. All of it's explosion proof. Um it's pretty expensive to do that, but you you could do that. I'm looking at 6.8 million for project costs. Yes. True. This this does not include a bypass. So, for this one, if you wanted to renovate it, you'd have to stick with the same style because you'd leave one pump running while you did the others, and it'd have to be a pretty specially um phase project. Yes.

Um [clears throat] so, that's looking at 300 to $400,000 a year if you're doing the SRF loan program. Okay.

You could build a new one and I'll do this just to the north. You'd have to tie in. So, you'd build the whole facility and then at the end you'd do the changeover. If you did a new one, we would recommend a different style of pump. Um, there's a vertical turbine solids handling pump, VTSH. They're in collection systems a lot because they can handle heavy solids. The real appeal is that everything below is the waste water. So, you still have the very deep wet well, but you have this column pipe that's made out of ductal iron that goes below and it has an impeller on it, but the motor's above. So you come in and there's a concrete slab and that's where the motor, the pieces you work on, anything you have to do maintenance on is at the ground level. Your workers are never going below into the wet well. We still want everything to be explosion proof because even though you have a concrete slab between sewer gases can come in, but you don't have near the amount of humidity or corrosion going on in a system like that. It is more expensive to build a new facility, about a million dollars more. We're at $7.7 million to do a new pump station, which is between 350 to 450. I mean, depending upon when you did this, interest rates could go up. It could be half a million dollars a year for 20 years to repay the investment on a new facility.

For anyone who's been inside our storm water pumping stations, that's kind of the setup of those stations. You walk in, you see three motors,

everything's down below. You don't end up going down below. Um I will say just one other thing to this. We did we do feel a sense of urgency to attack some of these problems. So we did include in the budget this year a redesign of this station. Um you know we wanted the ability to move fast depending on what you know kind of came out of this. Um we are kind of at a decision point between you know I would not personally recommend you know um doing looking at the wastewater treatment plant without a lot further study. Um but then again that puts you on the back end with Bedford needing some immediate attention. Yep.

So we we you know have programmed in this year's budget money to look at redesigning Bedford moving forward you know with that if that becomes the solution. Um, but as you know, Vinster and Kim said, there there there is a lot to consider with a new treatment plant. Um, there's a lot of unknowns with a new treatment plant as we go into the future about regulatory compliance, changing parameters from DNR, EPA. Um, but anyway, I'll digress there, but sorry.

No, no, that that is important. I do think I would echo your urgency to do something about Bedford Lift Station. Um, if if you were still interested in doing your own wastewater plant, it could be utilized. I mean, if you knew right now you wanted to do a wastewater plant, we'd design a headworks with pump in it and not have a separate pumping station. But if you invested in Bedford repairs or replacement and then years from in the near future wanted to do a wastewater plant, it could be incorporated with some modifications. That's where Bedford came from. Originally, it was part of the 1960s wastewater treatment plant retrofit in the 80s. Um, but yeah, so they they do still incorporate pumping stations. So, it wouldn't be a loss on cost. Correct. You're probably spending a little more building the separate pump station and then the adjacent, but not completely cost.

How much do we have in the budget this year for the Bedford piece? construction realm. We could, you know, [snorts] start that process, but again, that's not going to cover the whole thing. But it kind of got us started.

Okay. Um, how soon is I mean, it's urgent. It may that's clear. This is a 39year-old pumping station that is on its very last legs and might explode at some point. Um, uh, when do we need a decision on this? So, we did reach out to our four on call engineers and uh solicit qualifications from them on who would be most qualified to build a station of this size. Okay. Uh we have those back. We were reviewing that again. All this kind of slow moving while we talk about the bigger picture in this presentation.

This is to build a new This is basically the proposal here that's on the screen is what we've checked to see. Do we know a design cost? Well, we're still going with this, but for right now, this is the most up-to-date information we have. So, I have estimated just over a million dollars for engineering legal admin. That's obviously it's at the very right before the yellow line. Construction is 6.5 ELA, engineering legal admin. Got it. Okay. You know, maybe 1.2 that that can be variable because someone could come in with a much larger design as well. That costs more, but we think you should be able to do it for a million. Okay. Well, it gives us council member Bailey. Yes.

Time park to deal with here. Council member Bailey, uh time frame on either the retrofit or the rebuild for Bedford. So, it'd be quicker than a full wastewater facility because you're not having to do all the samples. Um but probably a year and a year. You're going to need a year to design and if you do design build, you can, you know, kind of marry those timelines a little bit more. But till you have a new system up and running, two years would be as aggressive as you can get. And if we're building new, we can uh use the redundancy of the one that exists until the new one comes. Otherwise, we're straining a single pump and probably blowing it out. And is that the same whether we rebuil rebuild a Bedford or build it and print new Bedford?

Yes. Because even though you're not having to do new concrete structures with the replacement, it's much more difficult to phase in when it's running. Um Okay. Uh having seen these numbers for about 10 minutes, uh the the water treatment plant option seems fascinating, could be a cost savings, but given the sizing concerns with 50% of our flow coming from a single user and uncertainty about future buildout. We would need a lot of time to figure that out. Now, if we do this, it doesn't discount doing that in the future, which is a great thing to point out. Um I don't know what action you need from council to say go ahead with the I mean you you've got the lined up bids I think or the qualifications

we did we included money in the budget we've you know solicited looked at what qualifications we have of engineers aware of contracts with uh for that kind of design work. Um so again we're kind of in the in a position there to keep things moving. Yeah. just that this presentation and all this information from this master plan which is very comprehensive. Y um we wanted to get that out there and discussion. So it would it would be likely financed through the SF SFR. Is that right? SRF SRF SRF loans. Um and then we would need to translate that into what it would increase [snorts] uh sewer rates to compensate. It's like that there's going to be an uptick after years of upticks, right?

Okay. So having that number in hand would be helpful, but I do think given now like and I want to hear from the council on that, but like I think we move we forge ahead with this because we can't let this station stop working. Uh Council Member Gro, I agree. I think we should go forward with renovating the Bedford station. I think we've got employees that are working in an unsafe environment. I think that that is the most pressing thing that we need to address. And given that it could kind of fit in with any future plans, I don't see why we shouldn't get started on this like a month ago. To be clear, replacing or renovating? Renovating, I think. Or well, what's the what was the proposal up there that was that was replaced? Replace then replace.

Replace it. Yeah. There that lovely stuff on the walls is not coming off with renovation. It needs to go all away. Yeah. Okay. Uh other thoughts on that? Agree. Yep. Council member Fischer

generally agree with that. Just maybe one um pause is if we could ask staff to maybe for next meeting run some napkin math on you know how this would look with the loan or the gaming fund just kind of long-term budget projection just make sure it's not going to be causing us any issues on that side. Yeah, the big round figure there was 350 annually on a 30-year again if rates are favorable and everything goes according to plan. So maybe 375 a year um and what that looks like to your average rate payer and since the gaming fund was dedicated to infrastructure in the city in many ways and they did some of the realigning of the sewer systems with gaming funds.

Mhm. I think we might want to consider tapping that in what way? Rather than than actually uh going out and getting loans. Uh uh that would be a big chunk out of the gaming fund. Yeah. But that that is one of the things that the gaming fund was intended for those kinds of projects. Sure. Correct. Um the mayor using So Go ahead. We we can look at all scenarios. Yeah. Let's talk about all of that. Yeah, bring those forward. Philosophically, everything from full rate to subsidize and yeah, because we've kind of philosophically shifted to these need to be self- sustaining

funds. And if this becomes part of the rate, then it gets built in. Could we subsidize again? Would we be subsidizing a 50% user by doing so? That that's that's one of the things we need to look at. Correct. Um but yep, I I think we can get those figured out, but the imperative is that this gets done. Um so I unless you've got a strong hold up on like not not giving the go ahead to move forward with I don't know getting a bid and getting things moving that direction. Yeah, I mean I' I'd be in favor of wait 3 weeks or whenever our next meeting is and get the numbers back before making a decision, but you know, generally in favor of the concept and moving forward quickly. Okay. Um, Council Member Alvarez.

Yeah, I just wanted to add to that I agree uh whether we do our own um system or uh what we still need to do this first and I think this is a priority. So, I would agree and decide the numbers when we have that information. So yeah, I it seems that we could still give the green light and then figure out what the repayment method and how we marry it to rates or fund it through debt or gaming or any of that, but like it

needs to get done. Like I don't I I just don't know that we have the option in three weeks to say h well it's going to be a little little hard to pull off. I mean do you think that if if it came back I'm curious what you would need to hear to say no. Oh, I'm just, you know, like you said, there's different options for financing it and the the payment schedule and the source of the funds is, you know, some piece come from gaming or it's all from the loan. Just kind of I don't I don't know off the top of my head what we have in gaming and the sewer fund and all that stuff right now. So, just kind of consolidating all those numbers and looking at it holistically before making a decision. Sure. Um, go ahead, Mike.

We'll we'll put all that together. Um, but just to get clear direction, I mean, we are going to move forward with the on call selection of one of our on calls because something has to be done. I mean, I'm at I sorry, I said we are going to that was that's what I'm getting at is we move before we figure out the financing and everything. We're not halting that part of it. No, but but yeah, as as as we'll look to have something for February 3rd as far as here's our options and it kind of plays into discussion for another time. But now with this master plan, we have all three that we've started working on putting all together and and to present to to you um kind of the 20-year picture.

And to be clear, these loan products are very low rate. Like they're not they're not market rate. Like we're not financing it% 30% of the market rate. Yeah. This is that's nice. Correct. Yep. Yep. And and when you and as you these are projected numbers, we're trying to be conservative with them, but there's a whole range. I mean, some people right now are making a pump station also a storm shelter and making it there's a whole range of money you can throw at these projects. So, you can get higher, but I we think you should be able to do it. We also make it a public swimming pool. [laughter] That seems to be in demand. Um, please. Yes. Uh, filter it and then swim. Um, all right. Any other

No, I would say you guys have the report. We've taken up enough of your time. We also put in there some recommendations for operation plans. EPA does a SEOM uh guidelines. It's got everything you could need. We pulled out sections we thought would work for you. We have a summary of all the O andM expenses you could do. You don't have to target those immediately. A lot of those could be later with the exception of Bedford and the 19th Street pump station. We think you should be replacing those pumps pretty soon too for capacity. Um and then development of standards. So, so the report has a lot in it and we're happy to if you ever want a work session or come back and talk about other things, but I think you took away the highlights. Very good. 299 pages of report. So, very thorough. Thank you for

doing the work. Really appreciate that. Did you have something else to add? Oh, Tim, originally I was going to have him go through. He really did the standards because he's got the public works background. I know we've taken up a lot of your time. So, I mean, it's important. We've been looking forward to this for a little while. So, go ahead. You want to talk about that? Well, I was just going to Yeah.

Basically, we what it was part of the scope of the original project to come up with some standards the city could put in place. Basically, you can call it a design guide. And what it can you be used for is basically to standardize what's done in the system. The the biggest thing it can be used for is when you have a developer that wants to come and do something to the city. It they can have these upfront and it actually can expedite the approval process and you know by setting expectations up front. So, and it and again, you know, having a standard way of doing things, it kind of helps control the system. It minimizes impact to your system in the long run as well. So, I I appreciate your comment. When the developer comes to do something to the city, [laughter] thank you. Did I say that? Yeah,

that my uh city days are coming back. I guess I like that unconscious. Do something to the city. All right. So, yeah. All right. Very good. Thank you so much for all you you put into this one. This is excellent work. Okay, moving on to item 16. This one's going to be pretty easy, I think. Let me load up my discussion of communications mobile app.

Y Let me get my agenda back up here. Okay, so some months ago, uh, Stephen and I sat down with Gov to look at their mobile platform. Uh, I sent out, we actually recorded that video of us doing kind of a walkthrough, a sandbox of their system. I sent it out to governing body and to staff to get feedback. My understanding is that much of the staff feedback has been positive. Um, it's also a I I expected a system like this to cost a lot more. Maybe I shouldn't say that out loud, but it's uh it's $10,000 to put the platform in place. It offers all sorts of benefits, including uh the ability for a resident who just for example finds a pothole, can take a picture of that pothole and upload it. And then if a second, third, fourth, 50th person comes along and sees the same pothole, it consolidates all that into one request. Same with noise, same with nuisance. if it's the same thing being reported based on geoloccation, some sort of AI, um it will consolidate and so we don't get pinged by the same thing over and over and over again, which is very useful when you're a busy professional like Mr. Anthony Sans or Miss You Wood and you are constantly getting stuff thrown at you. Um, it also allows push notifications and alerts so that we can communicate things out to people who have opted in uh for various things uh all like weather alerts, road closures, public meetings, community events. Um, gives them kind of a menu to choose from. Uh, city information and resources, two-way communications, a big one, and and we'll have to figure out exactly how that's going to get implemented so that we're not just having back and forth chats all day with people. Um, asking any manner of questions, but it does give that option and then a way to engage the community, maybe even do some surveys, some light questions out to find out where people are. And like I say, the cost of the platform is $10,000. There will be some

more communication stuff that'll need to be built into that budget on how do you opt in, what does it look like. Uh Kim has put I think you were working on some stuff at one point about how to message out if we did a communications app. Um how do we land that? We have the pipeline newsletter now. We've got the quarterly um and then some sort of dedicated communication, but trying to get everyone onto a a shared way to get information back and forth. Yes, sir. Uh I agree with you. I was surprised at the cost being as [snorts] relatively low as it is. But does that include any future upgrades or license fees in the future?

As far as we were uh as far as we understood and there'll be further discussion as we start building it out is is this is this is the cost. I mean it's it's yeah it's an and it I think it's an annual piece that Yeah. Yeah. But once you're in like it's you build it and

it's it's something that grows over time as you add you can add features, you can do all different things with it. But it I was very impressed with the team that presented it. I was very impressed with its capabilities. And of course, this is a sandbox version, so it's going to run a little more smoothly than the initial launch. But I I this is something that I think and you've talked about it coming out of some of the city conferences. This is something I I think we've needed a long time and we can now real time communicate to our residents about things that are going on. Yeah.

I have some experience, very little experience with this particular group. I talked to them at a couple of conferences and they really seem to know their stuff. It does have unlimited software updates, unlimited support. It's got um and I this is my job. I work in IT so I'm pretty good at sussing out whether or not a vendor is full of BS or not and I didn't get that sense from them. Uh I actually got a couple of email testimonials from other cities after I'd talked to them. Some of their people saying how much they liked this particular product. There are other products out there that are similar in cost, but um this one seemed a little more robust when I was looking at it than some of the other ones. Um, it also gives, you know, it there's a lot of people that rely on things like Facebook or newsletters, but we have so many different channels of communication that we're trying to reach people by that while this may seem like we're adding one more. Um, these kinds of tools allow you to have like a portal where the person who's trying to do the communication can go to one place and then it pushes it out to all these different places. Uh the one thing that I would want to make sure that we cover though is um just because the product itself costs, you know, $10,000 a year or however much it's going to cost, uh we need to make sure that we're accounting for staff time and who is going to to own um you know, building this out for one, who will be our um our subject matter expert on who's going to take care of this product. I know Stephen and uh his team have a lot of responsibilities and so are we going to rely on them to understand how to use this product or are we going to assign someone else on city staff to do that? Uh and what are how many hours a week does it take to handle this kind of thing? Uh do they have uh support that our residents can contact or will our residents be expected to contact city staff to get help with downloading the app and using its features? What? So just we want to

think real comprehensively about how we will implement something like this because while it looks really neat and flashy in a demo, uh implementing it is a different animal and maintaining that implementation and actually engaging people to use it, not just our in our residents but also the staff keeping the momentum up of people posting things and and wanting to post things on it is is crucial because I've seen many of these things get very hyped up especally especially like in our campus environment, people are really excited about it. We implement it and then 3 to 6 months later, nobody is using it and people have forgotten that it existed and we paid all this money for a product. So, just keep all of that in mind.

Yep. Uh ex excellent thoughts. Um particularly the the support who's going to be fielding those phone calls when people are having trouble. Also, thank you for pointing out the syndication aspect where you you make a message. They even showed us in in one of the demos where you can create a message and it will set it up to go to Facebook, to email, to text cer, whatever text service um and then out via the app if people are subscribed. So I think there's a lot of upside to that. Questions, thoughts? Um so general will of the council, thumbs up, thumbs down. We give this one a a go. All right. I'm seeing head nons mostly around. Okay. Uh, we skip item 17. We're moving on to item 18.

Missouri Municipal Opt Out Authority for Extended alcohol sales during 2026 FIFA World Cup tournament requested passage of ordinance bill number 7962, ordinance number 9759. All right. Uh, do we have any updates on this one? Nope. This is uh where we stop the party at normal hours, right? All right. That's basically what it is. And you have to according to the state statute that allows it throughout the state, you have to object to it, which this ordinance does. And then you exempt yourself out or exempt the city out, which this ordinance does. So beautiful.

If you're good with that, then there's nothing really much else to say about it. Very good. And it's and remember it's only during this statute is only during the period that the uh World Cup will be held here in the Kansas City well in the state of Missouri.

Yeah. So I mean with us doing this all things remain normal business right the bars are open and closed at their normal business hour or they can serve everything remains the It will it will absolute by us opting out that means we stay in fact the ordinance even mentions that everything stays the same but uh I don't know that that was necessarily uh required that we do that. Okay. Uh do we have a first reading question? No. I I agree that I don't think our residents want a 24-hour city during that period. And so this isn't this is something we need to do. Some might like it.

Yeah. [snorts] But then again, most I don't think want. First reading. Second. All in favor? Yes. Any opposed? Motion passes. An ordinance of the city of North Kansas City, Missouri, declaring its objection to the extension of hours for lenses within the city to sell intoxicating liquor by the drink at retail for consumption within the city for the duration of the 2026 FIFA World Cup tournament beginning on June 11th, 2026 through July 19th, 2026 and further exempting the city from the provisions of the Missouri Revised Statute section 311.2026. 2026.

The wrong one. Okay. So, I move that bill. Right. Yep. 7962 to be placed on second and final reading and passes as ordinance number 9759. Second. Call the roll. Council member Alvarez. Yes. Council member Selenus. Yes. Council member Click. Yes. Council member Safer. Yes. Council member Bailey. Yes. Council member Mcgrron. Yes. Council member Fitzgerald.

Yes. An ordinance of the city of North Kansas City, Missouri, declaring its objection to the extension of hours for licenses within the city to sell intoxicating liquor by the drink at retail for consumption within the city for the duration of the 2026 FIFA World Cup tournament beginning on June 11th, 2026 through July 19th, 2026 and further exempting the city from the provisions of Missouri Revised Statute Section 311.2026. 2026. All right. Uh so we are a no fund city again. Very good. Uh [laughter] number 19, update on hospital emergency backup water supply project.

Good evening, mayor council. So maybe only about 30 minutes for this presentation.

Um so the the you may remember a while back the hospital came uh they would like to install a redundant water supply uh to their campus. Um they have identified a way of going to Kansas City, Missouri and tying into their water system. Um and they have proposed a very long line that goes north from their campus and ties in across our city limits. Um so there's a lot of things that go into that. One of the things being an interjurisdictional agreement between the two cities. Um we have to have a way of opening the door to let them attach to Kansas City. Um and then there's a lot of things that come into play when it comes to water chemistry. our water is a little bit different than Kansas cities. Um we've asked them to look at that chemistry, how they plan on turning the water over um and maintaining that uh connection. So um between the agreements with Kansas City, the agreements with the hospital, um it's kind of all outlined there in the memo um where we're kind of working through different steps and and and scenarios with them. Um and so again, if there's any questions or comments or concerns, please let me know. Happy to talk about it. Council member Saper,

uh, who would bear the cost of the actual installation of the lines and the connections? That would be the hospital. So, the hospital is actually already bid the project. Okay. They have a contractor line up lined up. Um, I'm not sure exactly who they got selected. Uh, but that's again, they're kind of a private entity working to yeah start that. And then I think as Tom Barz is going to work out a contract with them between the city, all expenses, operation, maintenance, and this is their redundant water line. We're kind of opening the gate to Kansas City um but asking them to maintain everything associated with that line. Have they have they indicated what building they want to permanently connect?

So that conversation comes from a question we asked back to them. They said we want to connect with a line into Kansas City. Uh we asked how are you going to that line's only for emergencies, right? So, how are you going to keep the water in that line turning over? If the chlorination in a water line will go away um after, you know, maybe 3 days, it go stagnant. Right. Right. So, the this the proposal they came back with was well, we're going to permanently connect one of our buildings on the campus to this line and always use Kansas City water.

Um that it's the northeast corner. It's it's one of the buildings that uses dialysis. Now, diialysis is actually one of the things you really want to make sure when you're looking at chlorination versus um free chlorine. We use free chlorine. They use chloromines. There's again different treatment practices. So, we've asked them to really look at the chemistry and the practice. We've asked them to work with DNR, look at all these things to make sure that um is going to be addressed in in their design. Um so, yeah, there is one building on their campus that would permanently switch over to KC water to keep the water moving. And it's the one where the dialysis is currently done. It's on the Yeah. North northwest corner of the campus. Yeah.

Yeah. I just wonder what the volume water going through that would be compared to their overall usage. Would it be a relatively small percentage? It' probably be a relatively small percentage because again they use um a lot of [clears throat] their water for cooling. Um that was actually one of the big issues when we had the water main break. It was a 2024 um where they could not cool the towers and it was during the summer it was August it was getting very hot. Um, so that's one of the bigger uses they have for that water. Thank you. Further questions? Excellent. All right. Uh, moving on to item 20.

Contract for services with Northland Festivals for a Go North K FIFA 2026 World Cup watch party street festival resolution number 26-002. Uh, Kim, I believe your name is at the top of this memo. And I will acknowledge JD. You've been hanging with us a very long time. So, thank [laughter] upon reflection. We probably should move this item up. Very sorry, JD. We thought we'd just read through the contract word for word for you tonight. Yeah. Perfect. No.

Um, this is a contract for services with Northland Festivals to help host the city's um, street festival style watch party on Saturday, July 11th. Um, now that we have a bit more detail, however, not great detail, um, we are able to move forward on a contract for services because now we now know kind of date, time. Um, in the memo there is our very first blush at a revised outline. Again, there's more conversations to come, but for JD and his team to be able to move forward on insurance purposes, we have to give a general outline to the insurance carrier. So this is kind of the area. It's really more focused on roadblock area, not activity area, if that's making any sense. Um so the contract for services is in your um in your packet for your consideration. The initial cost would be $35,000 with a $15,000 contingency. Again, the insurance cost has not been nailed down yet. That is kind of our major wild card. We haven't been able to really engage the businesses in the area because without a contract for services, we're really the city staff, we do not have the capacity to pull this event off. So without a contract for with for services with Northland Festivals, the city staff really would not be able to pull an event of this size off with our staffing capacity.

Um the insurance cost, I assume we'd pay that as well. And do we have any ballpark? I mean, is it is it double, you know, is it is it another 35,000? Is it more than that? I'm looking to the master of ceremonies, JD Green. And and to clarify the question, the so the financial term says contracts 35 with a 15 contingency. Northland Festivals is responsible for event related costs including production, security, insurance, staffing, and equipment. So is the 15,000. My understanding is that's because we don't know what it'll cost for insurance. Correct. Okay.

Now, I have been talking with our insurance lady broker and they it won't be if it continues because this is one of the questions too. How much is FIFA going to require us to insure? Right now, that contract is what we insure for Snake Saturday. And it will actually be comparable around a a $7,000 to $9,000 cost. Okay, that's the current estimate. Yeah, the last estimate range was like 5 to 65,000 if I remember correct. It was some very very large. So, it sounds like we've narrowed it a bit, which is we have narrowed it quite a bit. Good. Council member Saber.

Uh JD, before you go, uh I appreciate you're saying proceeds uh should it generate revenue. Yeah. and the proceeds will be spit split between Northland Festivals and the city. Uh I this is going to be an exciting time but residents shouldn't be expecting that it will be a big money maker through the festival. No, it festivals is still a nonprofit.

Yeah. And uh so it's not going to be a huge money maker for the organization. What it will do, I will tell you in conversations that I and I didn't even realize till two weeks ago that we had a soccer club here in North Kansas City. It's called Surf. I met with the gentleman. We had lunch at Chapels on Friday. He is very excited to put on a football tournament which will bring teams and fans into the area. And the neat thing about that is we're kind of guaranteeing our own group of attendees, I guess, is the best way to put it. And as he said, he puts on this tournament in between games. Those teams, those fans are going to be spreading out through North Kansas City. discovering what we have to offer. That's just one part of it.

So, this does not at this point encompass the licensing fee that FIFA is going to extract. Do we have any idea what that could be?

We have no clue. We are also unaware of any municipality in the region that has successfully gotten a license just yet, which let me put it into context because somebody had to do this for me and it was very helpful. The licensing portal that both JD and I both applied for separately is the worldwide one, meaning that we are competing or putting in our license application at the same time as Hong Kong, Las Vegas, Singapore, London, everybody who wants to host a public viewing party of a FIFA game were all going through the same portal. They received almost a million applications at once within a 24-hour cycle. So again, context that helped me because at first I was like, "What the hey? Why hasn't why hasn't my application even been assigned a number?" And then when somebody kind of softly sat me down and kind of told me about the the scale of this operation and we were again countries such as Singapore are going through the same licensing portal as we are and quite literally they are going through if you were a host city your application got a little higher nor Kansas City we are not a host city. Um but London, you know, some of these much much larger cities, their applications probably getting fasttracked and just the scope and scale of the license um for FIFA to have to sift through even with AI is going to take a while. Y

so both JD and I have both applied. Um we kind of have told each other whoever gets the the the successful golden ticket email first, you know, as soon as we have clarification, then the other one will pull back our application. That way we can secure one for North Kansas City.

Perfect. I would like to base this on the contingency that that succeeds and is that at a reasonable cost. If they want $250,000 from North Kansas City for a party, I'm not inclined to give FIFA that. One of the things that we have been told is because ours is an open to the public event, meaning we are not charging, uh, we are not quote unquote profiting from this particular one, it's it's considered a different style license. It's considered a community viewing license. So, we're hoping that that is reflected in the permit costs.

Is it written in now as a contingency? Say we don't end up getting like it say it is a million dollars. It's not, but say it is. Uh, and we decide not to do that. Um, do are we still beholden to the contract with Northland Festivals to make the thing happen? Okay. Just just initial there are some initial expenses like the insurance if he purchases that. We cover that in here, but yeah, if it's Yeah. I mean, anything any real costs we're not going to stick you with. That would be that'd be pretty wild of us.

Uh, right. Other Yep. I apologize because I feel like I might be a half step behind some of y'all. I'm trying to kind of wrap my head around the full cost of this party kind because I know we have what probably 100 grand in a TV screen 35 plus 15 here another 50 a license fee on top of that. It's a really broad question to ask. Are there other unanticipated costs we might foresee? But, you know, I'm just trying to get somewhat of a picture like what still might be out there, you know, as these numbers keep running up.

The screen are the known hard costs. I do believe we have budgeted for again the screen which we split 5050 with parks and recreation. Um, also remember that the the funding that comes out of this is coming from the convention and tourism fund. It's not the city's general fund. Um so that those monies are collected from people who stay in our in our hotels and it is really earmarked by and it was by voter approval um for convention and tourism related expenses meaning paying for things that brought people within to the city. Um there is some and it's one of those things that this is where JD's expertise comes in is some of the police overtime. We are going to be kind of mirroring and understanding what those costs are based on our experiences with Snake Saturday. We're really looking at that as almost a a template of what th those expenses will look like. Um once JD now that you know if this count if this contract is approved JD will be able to go out and get pricing for hard costs like portaotties and whatnot. But again that's within that 35,000 um that is within here. We can kind of keep like a running tab and report on that if you would like. Um,

and I mean it bears repeating too. The the screen, while yes, a large expense, was split with the parks and is a long-term city asset that we plan to use for many other things parks related. Um, go ahead.

Well, I mean, I I just want to say I I think just to piggyback onto what Connor is saying, I I recognize that the screen is an expense that can be shared with other things. Are there other potential like known or unknown costs that we think we might incur? Because as council member Saber already pointed out and I think we all know this likely will not be a large revenue generating event. So we're going to we're already spitting out you know 50 for our part of the screen another 50 for so we're we're at 100K. Do we know what the benefit the to the 5,500 people that live here in North Kansas City and the benefit to the businesses will be and especially since it's going to be in a just a particular area of the city and only certain businesses will likely benefit from this. Uh is there any you know and and right now it seems like we the city are the only people who are putting money into this party. So, uh, are there any other, uh, streams of funds coming in to help cover this from businesses who we think might benefit more than others from this street party? I don't know. It's just things that we want to think about. I'm sure that there are community members who have similar questions and I just want to make sure that they know that I and others are thinking about these questions and we're not just saying, "Yeah, let's just go spend a bunch of money on a party and that we don't know who's going to show up for." Um, yeah, I guess the the question kind of could come down is what is the forecasted uptick in revenue to the businesses that will result in sales tax, revenue to the city? Is it going to be enough to offset the price? Unclear and I don't know how we project that yet given we

and there's there's other costs. I mean, it's not just money to Northland Festivals and money for a screen. Every minute that Kim spends on this project is money that the city is spending on this project. every hour of overtime that police or fire spend on the streets at, you know, 2:00 a.m. because people are out even though the bar is closed at 1:30. Uh that is that is money that is being spent because of this project. So we can't just say these just because we've got it written down, here's the actual numbers. There are a lot of other costs that we have to think about and consider that are real costs for this project. Council member Saber. Uh, I agree with everything you just said, Lindsay, [clears throat] except except that this is really almost a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. And how would we feel if we didn't participate? It's it's a crapshoot whether what the cost will be and how it'll work out. But I think we'd kick ourselves in the future if we didn't go ahead and do this. That's my only caveat. Council member Fisher,

I've also heard FIFA, I guess I don't know if it' be FIFA Kansas City, I mean phrasing exactly right, but there's going to be a large fan festival held during I think the duration of the event at the Liberty Memorial site. Do we have plans to, you know, kind of I assume that will be similar TVs and watched on, you know, a larger scale. Do we have plans to, you know, compete with that and actually draw people to our business here if we shell out these this money?

A big part of it is the go north campaign. So that's been among the Northland cities. We've made an agreement not to trample in each other's watch party. So we're not competing with every city in the Northland. But yeah, I mean they're going to have FanFest going on regardless of what we do. Um but people will come here to watch the game to potentially avoid going to FanFest. Um, going down to the Liberty Memorial can be fun for some people. Uh, having done it before, it was not as good a time as I had hoped. Um, for the the chief's uh, celebration. Um, and and you know, people people are going to find different benefits to coming up north versus going to the city, per se.

North Kansas City is also home to one of the park and ride sites, which is actually right behind that building over there. Yep. um centrally located right next to our our very own little street festival right here. So, we do anticipate a pretty good uptake in outside visitors uh coming to North Kansas City, if anything, to catch one of the buses that go to either the the FIFA fan site or to the games. And again, that's going to be a very large park and ride um that will be operational the entire time that the FIFA games are within Kansas City. That's definitely good news. I've heard that one. I would hope that we would catch some of the lift that comes from that facility.

And if we think logistically, we have the last match. So, if they're driving in to park and go to the stadium or to go to FanFest, maybe they've done it four or five times and they're like, maybe we just drive in here, park, and see what this town is about. Seeing as we'll be messaging out, hey, we got a party coming up on the semi-final or whichever one it is coming up. And I do think it's just because it's 2026 now, but I have had multiple businesses in North Kansas City reach out and ask, "Are we doing something? And if we are, how can I get involved?" Yep.

Um, unfortunately, I have relayed all of those emails to JD. And it does seem like we've gotten at least five or six this week, different businesses reaching out asking, "Why are we not part of this?" That was actually one of them. Um, so and that was actually a very large business here in town um that was kind of questioning if we were going to do one of these festivals. So, uh, we I don't know if the council has gotten those kind of inquiries, but we at the staff level and JD specifically has gotten a lot of inquiries from local businesses asking if we are going to throw an event and if we were, how can they get involved?

And this is the first step to doing that event. uh that so we can start laying the logistical framework and I believe the February business council lunchon. Are you the keynote speaker to talk about all things World Cup prep? World Cup is in February. Yes. Um Snake Saturday is Thursday. So you just get to keep talking. Suddenly I My wife asked me what do I get for a uh speaking cost because she says you're spending a lot of time on this. the master of ceremonies.

So, I will add one one conversation I had this week. Um, and I never gave this any thought, but North Kansas City Hospital is and has been planning for this and the influx and they are actually looking for possibly because they can't handle a thousand people all of a sudden showing up in the emergency room. So they're looking at things that things I've never given any thought to. So this might be larger than we anticipate. I hear soccer fans are crazy. So we will we'll probably

triage situations going on. Uh any other thoughts, questions from the council? Uh we've got the contract here via resol. Okay. Council member Alvarez. like you said, since we're the last one, I think we probably will have a lot of uh people flowing into our city because they've been to the other ones. So, um I think it might last quite a while, maybe quite a bit longer than 11:00 p.m. or so. Do we I was just going to ask our police department or the fire department. Are we reaching out to other cities um to help out with the the flow of population that might come into the city?

Uh I have been in several discussions with lots of different people. Uh probably I probably do at least three or four meetings a week on the World Cup right now. Um, I could give you a lot more information, but the biggest one of the one of the things that we're trying to work out is how do we get extra people to help, you know, whether it's on the police side or whether it's on the fire side because we're all kind of dealing with the same. I mean, Kansas City has all their stuff going on. So, are are they committed to just that and then where are we going to get our help? And a lot of it is the smaller jurisdictions helping each other during some of these bigger bigger things. So, uh that's what we're looking at now. There's some other stuff that is in the works, but nothing is completely set.

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This is the first time I've heard of this [laughter] concern about all to to Council Member Mcgrron's comments like, "Yeah, police overtime is going to be a thing not only for this event if it does take place, but all of our neighbors and friends that uh will need our help. Likely we will need their help also. Uh we've been in conversations with law enforcement. Um mutual aid requests are flying back and forth almost daily now. So yeah, we'll we will have overtime expense here also, but we will also have overtime expensed when we send officers to Gladstone, to Riverside, to Liberty, to Kansas City, Missouri. Some of that may be reimbured through um whatever organ is KC26. Yeah, KC2026. But that's the Kansas City stuff probably not the Liberty Riverside Gladstone stuff. So yeah, it's reciprocal. It's what we do all the time for Snake Saturday. Um they provide us officers. We provide their officers for Gladfest and Liberty Fall Fest and Riverides whatever. Um so um those those expenses will be there and they won't just be specific to this day,

Riverside, whatever. That's That's the name of their festival. Yeah, I'll tell I'll tell Kathy about that. Um, perfect. Okay. Uh, any further thoughts or questions? We have a resolution. Do we have a motion on the resolution? It's a approve or not sort of thing. Move to approve. Second. All in favor? Yes. Yes. Any opposed? Motion passes. All right. Uh item 21,

approving accounts due and payable by the city through January 16th, 2026. Bill number 7964, ordinance number 9761. Do we have a first reading? First reading. Second. All in favor? Yes. Opposed? Motion passes. An ordinance authorizing payment for certain accounts due payable by the city through January 16th, 2026. I move that bill 7964 to be placed on second and final reading and passes as ordinance number 9761. Call the role. Council member Alvarez, yes. Council member Selenus, yes. Council member Click,

yes. Council member Saper, yes. Council member Bailey, yes. Council member Mcgrron, yes. Council member Fitzgerald. Yes. An ordinance authorizing payment for certain accounts due and payable by the city through January 16, 2026. Excellent. Uh JD, thank you for all that and thanks for the work you put into this. You are dismissed if you'd like to go home now. [laughter] All right. Staff comments. All right. Uh it's the time of the month for the department reports. Uh multiple other um reports in there for the council if there are any questions on those. If not, I'll kick it over to kick it over to the department heads. All right, you got 30 seconds.

30 seconds. Good evening, Mayor and Council. So, [clears throat] uh, a lot of the updates for all the projects we have going on are in the report. Hopefully, after tonight, a lot of them kind of make more sense because there's a lot of detail from the master plan. Uh, like like I said, got translated into our budget and is now being updated kind of in here as we go through those projects. um 10th Avenue active road project we have going on, 15th Avenue and the P active storm sewer project we have going on. Again, all the details in there. If you have any questions, please feel free to reach out to me. It wasn't really a 30 second limit, but I do appreciate your expediency. Uh any questions? Shu,

I got cut. No, I thought my pro I thought my reporter was the first one, right? I'll take it here. Uh real quick, just one little thing for the master plan update. We have uh selected the three planning commissioners to sit in the K North Kansas City core team along with me to uh steering this entire process for our master plan update. We're very excited uh to start discussing about the branding. So uh you will see some refreshing of our North Kansas City branding items coming out pretty soon. That's it.

Who's next? Uh good evening, mayor and council. Uh our report this month is more kind of focused on a year end and a comparison year-to-year 24 to 25 just so you can run through some of the numbers that we've been providing over the monthto monthth to show them uh aggregated over over a year and then comparing them to 2024. So um happy to take any comments, questions on those. one of our key highlights. Um, one of the things we wanted to to to kind of showcase is our our continued uh excellent response time for calls for service average of three minutes um all calls. So that's uh love that. Love to see that. And um the department is participating partnering participating with Special Olympics for the first time ever. Looks like we're going to participate in the Polar Plunge. So far this guy has not signed up for that. um being being heavily bullied by members of my department to do so. If someone wants to sponsor me, maybe I'll consider it.

Wait, run that one back. P I was I was reading these numbers. What is this plunge? The Polar Plunge, it's an annual fundraiser between for law enforcement to support Special Olympics. January 31st, everyone goes out to Long View Lake and uh takes a jump in the jump in the water. Sometimes it's some most of the time it's cold. Sometimes they got to chop ice out of the way to make sure they can get it done. um stay in as long as you think you can stay in, but it [clears throat] it is apparently fun for no one, but [laughter] but it is a it is a uh it is a nice fundraiser for Special Olympics Missouri. All right.

Uh comments on the numbers, we added traffic citations in in for this comparison for the top 10 number of citations that we've we wrote this year. Um, short of that, you see the the highs and lows, decreases, increases in year-to-year crime. Uh, what you you'll notice, um, burglary increased a little bit, a lot of it. Um, there was a change in classification with the legislature that started August 28th that uh, classified what we used to classify as a a theft from a motor vehicle into a it's a burglary charge. now a little bit more serious offense. So that you'll start to see an uptick in our burglary numbers because of that. Likewise, you should see a decrease in our stealing numbers which it is indicated in the in those two columns there. Um that is all for the report. I would like to use just a little bit of time to give you a heads up on something that's probably coming uh next council meeting from us and that's probably two agreements with uh for the housing of municipal prisoners outside of our jurisdiction. As you may or may not know over time we've been we've had a lot of issues with getting space at the Klay County Jail to house our municipal prisoners. Um started with COVID then a big renovation project that they're working on problems with the renovation project. Um capacity is a big one. Staffing is another big one for them. Staffing for capacity. Um we've we tried different options. Uh we've we've been years ago we were at a private facility, Ray County Security Housing. It was not the Ray County Jail. Uh we have worked with Clinton County before. Um to be honest with you, I didn't feel the Clinton County Jail was up to the standards that you would expect from a jail housing people. Um so we stopped that. So, the two that we're going to be bringing forward hopefully next uh next next meeting is an agreement with Klay County. They have uh figured out a way

to allow us to start uh bringing our prisoners up there again. The unfortunate part about it is the price has almost tripled from what we uh had previously paid. We knew it was going to go up. Uh I think we even budgeted for it, if you recall, last year. Uh we budgeted a significant increase in housing fees. Um, unfortunately the jail never opened up most most of the year. So we didn't spend that. So we dropped that back down about 50% this budget. We're at $125,000 for detention fees right now. That's, you know, do the math. Roughly a little over 800 some prisoner days from now until the end of this budget cycle. I think we would eat that up relatively quickly. Uh we have a second option with Caldwell County um that's significantly cheaper. It's $80 uh for a for a day where Klay County is $150 per day. I didn't give you that number. The only difference there is there's significant amount of staff time to take someone up to Caldwell County, book them, and then bring them back. It's about a three-hour turnaround probably uh where where Klay County is probably an hour turnaround. There's some other stipulations that the sheriff and Klay County is putting on this new agreement that we don't necessarily agree with and we want some clarification on why why it's coming coming that way. So, These next couple weeks will give us some time to work that out, but I do anticipate us probably bringing both agreements forward so we have options and that's just I took way more than my 30 seconds and I apologize for that. But that's the report from the police department. Um, thank you. One question that I noticed on here is a drop by about 900ish parking citations. Are we taking it easier on people? Are people just getting the rules straight now? What's going on?

It's a different in enforcement officer. Okay. So, uh Ricky Hobbs was our parking enforcement officer for a good amount of the time where you saw the the high numbers. Uh Ricky wrote a lot of tickets and he wrote a lot of tickets that I mean he used his discretion on when he could write and when he didn't write tickets. Uh Ricky was a nononsense guy and if he observed a violation, you got a ticket. Two hours and one second. Maybe one or more. You might have gotten a ticket from Ricky on the DIS. I don't know. Um, so we have a new parking control officer. There was there was a time frame where we didn't have a parking control officer. Uh, Ricky was on some some leave. So those numbers go down when those when the position is not filled. Yep.

Uh, new parking control officer. Uh, we've been more focused on some different levels of violations with with with Arley Vasquez. And so those are why those numbers have gone down some. We're focusing more on the time parking now and not so much on Ricky was writing a lot of parking tickets for vehicles improperly registered, parked on a city street, expired plates, no plates, stuff like that, which is a violation which still can be enforced. But, uh, we're focusing more on the time violations, making sure the cars are getting turned in the two-hour parkings and the probably not the 15-minute parking, but as much as we'd like to pay attention to that, we'll we'll do our best. But two hours for sure. And you know, as as as it goes, you get complaints when you're not enforcing it. And guess what? You get complaints when you are enforcing it, too. So,

that's right. That's that's our that's our job. We got big shoulders for that. So, yep. There you go. My my big fortunate turnaround was uh advocating for approving and and supporting the hiring of a parking enforcement officer and then catching a ticket day one on a 30 minute expired plate. Um, which was which was awesome. Uh, hey, plate expired. Okay. Uh

yeah, Mayor Council, uh I just wanted to I same thing. We have uh our year-end numbers there. We uh don't have them broken down as much as as they do, but uh they're pretty similar to last year. We didn't see any huge uptick in anything or lowering of many calls either uh throughout the year. Uh wanted to highlight a couple things. I wanted to let everybody know. We do have friends and family CPR classes once a month. Uh they're hands only or regular. And uh so if you want to get signed up for those uh some months we do 10 15 people, other months we do one. Uh it's a good time to get one-on-one handsonly CPR or BLS CPR if you need it also. And uh we we interviewed three new or we interviewed six people the other day. Candidates for uh hiring. We have given offers out to three new individuals to fill our open spots. Uh those went out Friday. All three accepted. Now we just got to get them through the through the process. They should start February 2nd.

Nice. All right. Uh any questions? Go ahead. I have a question for Chief Freeman. If I'm coming down Swift northland, northbound, whatever. Um, can I turn left to go to Canelo or McLean's? And I see no left to park. Yeah. To park. It's not really a U-turn. Well, right.

Yeah. So, the the law that exists there is there's a double yellow line down Swift. If that if I'm thinking about where you're talking about and you're not allowed to cross a double yellow line. You're not allowed to cross any solid line, solid white line, solid yellow line, double yellow line. So yeah, there's no left. You should not make a left turn to park in that situation. Okay. What about like um on coming down from the other side? Well, River Forest coming into the city right in front of the armored liquor, that solid white line. Are you allowed to cross over? No, you're not allowed to. Okay. Are you talking about where the the lane the armored liquor is? Yes. where it says turns where it's the right turn only onto Knox, right?

Yeah. So, you you once someone enters that right turn only lane, they should not change back into the through lane. That's an illegal lane change. Also, I pulled someone over for it last week myself on the way into work. Do you pull in police officers that also do that? Do Do police officers also do that? Do you pull them over if they do that? I I'm not aware of a police officer doing it because I've seen that. So, I'm just wondering and Okay. Just, you know, want to be Yeah. equal around here. Thank you. Anyone else want to clarify some traffic maneuvers? Seems like there's a lot of that going on in these meetings.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We got the car wash working in the background. All right. Any other staff comments tonight? Thank you for all the reports. Okay. Uh moving on to council member comments starting with council member Alvarez.

Okay. Um, see where I want to start. I just wanted to uh thank um Bess Bailey for her um the letter that she sent, Crystal read to us. I thought it was very uh well said, had a lot of meaning um behind it and that she cares about that group. So, I appreciate that letter being read and her sending it. Um I also appreciate it. She's gone, but I think it was Julia from the Life Unlimited and all the work that they do. Um, I didn't realize that they had that many houses that they'd set up for that. Um, so I was very impressed with that and it was good good information to know. Um, also I appreciate all the updates that we can get uh regarding the uh watch party that's coming in. I think there's a lot of information still to be given. So uh make decisions on things as they come in and and go um as we [clears throat] can. Also thank you for J D for coming and all the time that he spent on the research for the party coming up also with uh next Saturday. And um I think that's about it. And then also if anybody you have any information on how I can possibly sponsor uh Major Freeman for the Polar Plunge [laughter] that's chief Freeman these days.

Yes. Yes. Sorry. That's what I meant. Yeah. So, just yeah, if anyone can let me know, I'd appreciate it. Thanks. Very good, Council Member Selenus. Yes. I also wanted to thank Julie. I was hoping to talk to her, but I can reach out. Um, also just wanted to clarify something on Bess's uh letter. It says that you have to have gone through the citizens academy. You do not, right? Have to have gone through the citizens academy. Uh, no, you do not. is if you have completed the citizens academy. I think that was just as a way to identify folks who might be interested just anybody please uh we have a lot of open seats please reach out.

Um also um I wanted to say something in Spanish as the mayor is going to read something. Um No contest. Okay. Okay. No. Um, Um, so um, but that's about it.

Council member Click. Um, want to say thanks to Bess as well. Um, Seak, there's lots of seats and I think we're getting to the point where some can be filled from wards that aren't necessarily the open seats. So, anybody who is interested, I'm working on one person, but um I don't know. I also don't want to like wear people down. Um so, working on it. Um I'm excited for what the committee uh can do and will do. Um Life Unlimited as well. Julia, was it Julia or Julie? Julie.

Julie. Okay. Julie, thanks for coming. It was um great to hear that all of that is happening in our city. I kind of had an idea of what Life Unlimited did, but so happy to learn more. Um, and then to kind of go off of what Ivonne was saying. Um, didn't understand it all, but I understood some of it. So, thank you, um, for sharing that. Um, and kind of in response to some of what Jess was saying, some of what just neighbors and everyone is saying right now, um, with the potential of federal agents coming into our city, um, I don't know that anyone has answers, uh, to the big questions that are obviously looming, but what I do want to say is I think that this is a really important time for community. I think everyone should go get your neighbors phone numbers, like get your neighbors contact information, like make connections that maybe you haven't made before. Um, and we can at least look out for each other. I I don't know what that means, what that looks like, but check in on your neighbors. Um, especially vulnerable neighbors. Um, whatever that looks like. Um, and just have conversations with people on your on your street in your area. Um, yeah,

it's great advice no matter when it's given. Amen. Council member Saber, uh, reaching out to neighbors is always a good thing to do and being in touch with your community. I agree completely on that. Uh, and I want to thank bringing forth the wastewater treatment study. It's been a long time coming and I've been looking for it for a long time and it's here and we need to act on it. Council member

Bailey like to congratulate um Bethany Miles for her appointment. Uh enjoyed and appreciated all the work that went into the engineering report, the master plan. If anybody really wants to get into that, that is public. Go out and look at it. It's 300 pages. It is dense and it isformational. So, you have access. Um, but they clearly put a lot of work into that and we appreciate the public work department for working through all of the things that come out of that. And lastly, Chief Williams, congrats on your new three um, firefighters. Dr. Mcgrron,

uh, the only things I would say is that I 100% agree with Council Member Click's comments. Thank you for saying what um I think a lot of us are thinking and we live in a really great community where it's easy to meet our neighbors and it's uh I mean heck the houses are right next to each other. I mean you probably already know your neighbors even if you don't know your neighbors. So yeah, go out shake some hands uh just connect with people. It's so it's so so so so important and vital um just anytime but even especially now. And also thanks to everyone who shared public comments. Uh and I cannot wait for Latte Life to open. I am very excited.

Councilor Fitzgerald. Um most of it's already been said. I'm trying to think I guess uh thank you to JD Vance and Northland of Festivals for sitting through an hour and a half of other topics and then answering questions from us. JD Green. Oh, I'm sorry.

There you go. Yep. Uh, all right. And that brings it around to me. The new and updated calendars are available in the lobby. Uh, they look beautiful. Thank you for getting the the reprints and updates done. We've we've set up a process where we got a few hands in the in the process now and it's it's looking great. My daughters looked through them and and gave them the thumbs up. So, very good. And then um it's been brought up, it's been talked about a little bit um around, but on the topic of immigrations and customs enforcement. Um while it may sound like the city has been radio silent as mentioned tonight, lots of discussions are going on uh lots of preparations, thoughts, we're not just going to shoot from the hip with something this important. Um this is a thorny issue. It's politically divisive and there's a lot that goes into crafting a message from the city. Um, and be cautious what you see and what you believe, particularly on social media. Um, there was uh images being passed around that were very um scary, but the sheriff has put out that many of those were not real images. Um, so be very careful what you believe. And then um I'm working on some basic resources at the city level that we can offer out some some messaging from us. Um but as it's been pointed out, community is very important in this time and reach out to your neighbors. Make sure check in with them. There's a lot of fear, a lot of uncertainty. Uh but know that your city is working. Uh our police are working. I am working on this with staff. Um discussing some with the governing body. So, um, there are things being worked on in the background, even though we have not been vocal about that. Uh, with that said, we're going to move on to item number 25.

Consideration of a request to hold in recess into an executive session is requested by the city administrator to be held on this date pursuant to Missouri Revised Statute Section 610212 real estate matters and 610.0211 litigation matter. Real estate real estate litigation. Do we have a motion? So move. Call the role. Council member Alvarez. Yes. Council member Selenus. Yes. Council member Click. Yes. Council member Saber. Yes. Council member Bailey. Yes. Council member Mcgrron. Yes. Council member Fitzgerald.

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