City Council - Regular Meeting

I'm calling this meeting to order. This is a regular business meeting of the Redmond City Council held on Tuesday, 05/05/2026 commencing at 07:00PM. I will call roll starting with council president Stewart. Here. Council vice president Nueva Camino. Here. Council member Forsyth. Here. Council member Critzer. Here. Council member Parsey. Here. Council member Parikhria.

Here.

Council member Soni. Here. The first item on the agenda is a proclamation for the Asian American, Native Hawaiian, and Pacific Islander Heritage Month. Whereas the city of Redmond is proud to recognize May 2026 as Asian American, Native Hawaiian, and Pacific Islander or AANHPI Heritage Month, celebrating the rich histories, cultures, and contributions of people of Asian American, Native Hawaiian, and Pacific Islander descent. And whereas AANHPI communities represent a vibrant and diverse array of cultures, languages, and traditions that have shaped the social, economic, and cultural fabric of Redmond and The United States.

And whereas the observance of AAN HPI heritage month originated from the efforts of efforts to commemorate the arrival of the first Japanese immigrants to The United States in May 1843, and the completion of the Transcontinental Railroad in May 1869, which was built in large part by Chinese immigrant laborers. And whereas AAN HPI individuals have made and continue to make significant contributions in infrastructure and labor, technology and innovation, economic impact, academic scientific leadership, legal and social justice, arts and labor movements, and whereas the 2026 national theme for AAN HPI Heritage Month is Power in Strengthening Communities Together. This theme emphasizes leveraging collective strengths, storytelling, and building bridges across diverse populations to foster resilience and connection. And whereas this month provides an opportunity for all residents to learn about, reflect upon, and celebrate the cultural heritage, resilience, and ongoing contributions of AAN HPI communities. Now, therefore, I, Angela Burney, mayor of the city of Redmond, Washington, do hereby proclaim May 2026 as Asian American, Native Hawaiian, and Pacific Islander Heritage Month in Redmond, and encourage all residents to participate in activities and celebrations that honor the history, culture, and contributions of AA and HPI communities.

And with that, I'm really excited this year to have two of our council members accept this proclamation, for the city. We have, council member Sony and council member Prakria both to accept this, and both, after we take a picture, will, say a

few words. Let's get a picture.

And celebrate the cultural heritage, resilience, and

Thank you mayor and fellow council members. Ah for the proclamation recognizing Asian American Indian Hawaiian and Pacific Islander Heritage Month. It is truly an honor to receive this, not just as an Asian American, but also as the first naturalized citizen to serve on the Redmond City Council. AANHPI communities represent our incredible diversity. Over 24,000,000 people in The United States speaking hundreds of languages with stories that span generations, cultures, and journeys.

Yet behind these numbers are individuals who have contributed quality and power, who have contributed quietly and powerfully to building our nation, and our city. Redmond is a reflection of that story with over 45% of foreign born population. Our community is enriched by immigrants, first generation families, and those who have chosen this city as home, bringing innovation, culture, entrepreneurship, and resilience. From small businesses to technology, from arts to education, AANHPI communities are deeply woven into the fabric of Redmond. But this month is not just about celebration.

It is about recognition and responsibility. Recognition of the contributions that are often unseen, and a responsibility to building a community where everyone feels where they belong. As someone who chose this country as my home, I deeply value what it means to be included, to have a voice, and to serve. Let this month be a reminder that our diversity is not just something we celebrate, it is our strength. Thank you so much.

Thank you. And it is an honor to accept this proclamation. This is a time to recognize the rich cultures, histories, and contributions of the Asian American, Native Hawaiian, and Pacific Islander communities that have helped shape both our city and the world. Breadman is one of the most global cities in the world with more than 40% of our city comprising of the Asian American, Native Hawaiian, and Pacific Islander communities. And as an Indian American myself, I'm part of this community. My parents first came here in 1995 for Microsoft back when 520 was a gravel road. And they fell in love. They fell in love with the greenery. They fell in love with the biking trails. I grew up here.

I graduated from Redmond Elementary. And I love this community so much that I decided to run for a spot on my local city council. I also just want to take a moment to recognize the diversity that exists within all of the AANHPI communities. And when we lift up everyone, our community grows as a whole. So thank you. And once again, it's an honor to give and accept this proclamation.

Thank you both so much. It's really exciting to have you up here to accept this. The next item on the agenda is a proclamation for National Police Week. Whereas National Police Week was established in 1962 by John F. Kennedy to honor law enforcement officers who have lost their lives in the line of duty and to recognize service and sacrifice of those who continue to protect our communities.

And whereas the city of Redmond recognizes the dedicated men and women of the Redmond Police Department who faithfully serve and protect our community with courage, vigilance, and a deep commitment to public safety. And whereas law enforcement officers serve on the front lines of public safety, often facing unpredictable and dangerous situations, and are called upon to respond to emergencies, prevent and investigate crime, support victims, and assist individuals experiencing crisis with professionalism and compassion. And whereas the work of policing requires not only strength and resolve, but also empathy, sound judgment, and a commitment to fairness, equity, and accountability in all interactions with the community. And whereas the city of Redmond values the partnerships between its police department and the community, recognizing that public safety is strengthened through trust, transparency, and collaboration with residents, businesses, and community organizations. And whereas we honor and remember those law enforcement officers who have made the ultimate sacrifice in the line of duty, and we recognize the profound loss borne by their families, friends, and fellow officers whose support and resilience sustain their legacy.

And whereas National Police Week provides an opportunity for all residents to express gratitude for the service of law enforcement personnel and to reflect on the importance of public safety in maintaining a vibrant and thriving community. Now, therefore, I, Angela Burney, mayor of the city of Redmond, Washington, do hereby proclaim May 2026 as National Police Week in Redmond and encourage all residents to join in honoring the dedicated service of our police officers, recognizing their contributions to the safety and well-being of our community and remembering those who have given their lives in the line of duty. So with that, I want to get this over to, deputy Coates, and he'll accept the proclamation. We're gonna get a picture, and then I'm gonna have him say a few words. Do you wanna Yeah.

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Okay. Thank you, mayor, and also special thanks for doing this a week early. We understand that the the week actually begins next Monday, but just coinciding with the the council calendar, we wanted to, get out in front of this a little bit early. So thank you for that. And on behalf of the police department, I want to express our appreciation for this proclamation and for the community's support.

National Police Week is a time for reflection, a moment when departments across the country pause to honor the men and women who serve, and especially those who have made the ultimate sacrifice. It's also a reminder of the commitment that our our officers make every day to respond, to protect, and to serve with professionalism and compassion often in circumstances the public never sees. Next week underscores the importance of that work and the importance of partnership with our city leadership, our community, and with each other. The officers standing with us today are and those out on the street right now, thank you for your dedication. And to the families who support them, thank you for sharing the burden and the pride that come with this profession.

We're grateful for the recognition, and we remain committed to serving this community with integrity and honor. Thank you.

It's a busy proclamation month. The next item on the agenda is a proclamation for Older Americans Month. Whereas May is designated as Older Americans Month a time to recognize and honor the contributions and achievements of older adults in the city of Redmond, and whereas older adults contribute to the strength and vitality of our community by sharing their experience, knowledge, and perspectives, and by fostering connections across generations. And whereas older Americans support the civic, social, and economic well-being of Redmond through volunteerism, community service, and civic engagement. And whereas the city of Redmond is committed to fostering a community where individuals of all ages, abilities, and backgrounds have opportunities to live with purpose, remain engaged, and stay connected.

And whereas the Redmond Senior Community Center provides a welcoming and inclusive space that supports older adults in maintaining active, healthy, and engaged lives. And whereas the twenty twenty six Older Americans Month theme, Champion Your Health, emphasizes the importance of prevention, wellness, and informed decision making, and encourages individuals and communities to support healthy aging through access to resources, evidence based programs, and community partnerships. And whereas the City of Redmond is committed to promoting positive perceptions of aging and to supporting policies and programs that enable older adults to maintain their independence and quality of life. Now, therefore, I, Angela Burney, mayor of the City Of Redmond, Washington, do hereby proclaim May 2026 as Older Americans Month, and call upon all community members to join me in recognizing the contributions of our older residents, and promoting programs and activities that foster connection, inclusion, and support for older adults. And with that, I have four awards to give out as well.

Think we have, Suzanne is gonna come up. Let's start with Evergreen Health Horizons. Who's that? Let's come on up. We'll take a picture. Hello. But I'm gonna read a little bit about what you don't need.

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hand this over to you. The twenty twenty six Older Americans Month theme, champion your health, could not be more fitting for evergreen health horizons. The horizons program promotes healthy aging through engaging research based classes focused on three key pillars of wellness, nutrition, stress management, and physical activity. In just the past few weeks, older adults in our community have participated in Horizon sessions covering topics such as recognizing the signs of stroke, building confidence through self defense techniques designed for older adults, and discovering the benefits of staying active through Tai Chi, all offered free of charge. Redmond's partnership with Evergreen Health has continued for over ten years, and we remain consistently impressed with the quality of their programs, the expertise of their presenters, and their steadfast commitment to supporting healthy aging.

Thank you for being part of our community. Thank you so much. Next, Sadhru Ketra. Was his family able to make it in? Not today.

Okay. Well, Sadhru has been a devoted senior volunteer since 2014, generously sharing his time, warmth, and energy for more than twelve years. His passion for helping others was evident as he welcomed community members as a greeter and front desk volunteer at the Redmond Senior Center, where he helped people helped provide information to newcomers, made reminder calls to bus trip participants, supported staff with anything they needed, and of course, was the friendly peer who made every senior community member feel at home the minute they walked through the doors. From 2018 to '24, Sadhguru served on the senior advisory committee, where he contributed thoughtfully to its committees, including the health and wellness and outreach committees. He also served as a stakeholder and key volunteer during the opening and transition of the Redmond Senior and Community Center.

Today, Sadhguru continues to volunteer as a greeter in the senior lounge, where his kindness and genuine care of others make every senior who enters feel truly seen and welcomed. And I know he can't be here today, but we would like to give him a round of applause and thank him for his service. Next is Sylvia Bernhauer. Sylvia, come on up.

Come on, Sylvia.

I'm gonna read a little bit about you. I'm gonna hand this to you. Here. Hang on a moment. Sylvia has been an integral part and truly the sparkle of our senior chorus since 2011.

Her clear soprano voice has brightened weekly rehearsals, concerts, and several senior follies at both the Redmond Senior Center and the Redmond Senior Community Center. Sylvia's passion for uplifting others and building meaningful connections shines through not only the senior chorus, but also in the seven other organizations and communities where she generously volunteers her time. Well, you're busy. The chorus has become a source of joy, friendship, and belonging for many seniors, thanks in large part to Celia's longstanding participation and her leadership as director over the past three years. Under her guidance, the chorus continues to grow as a warm and inclusive community where every member feels welcomed and valued.

One small but meaningful example of her tradition of celebrating chorus members' birthdays by leading happy birthday in seven different languages. Her dedication and enthusiasm have helped make the chorus one of our most popular senior interest groups and reflect the belief that music helps bring people together. Thank you so much for your service to our community. Thank you. Oh my goodness.

Would you like to say a few words? Would you like to sing a few bars? Thank you very, very much. Truly appreciated. Thank you so much, Sylvia. Yes. I'm going to call up Steve Hutak. Did I say that last name correctly?

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Steve Hew tack. Okay. For the past thirteen years, Steve has been a cornerstone of the senior chorus. Love this shirt.

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He currently serves as booking agent, sound technician, and setup lead lead, handling each role with a smile on his face and a joke always at the ready. Steve coordinates performances with assisted assisted living communities, ensures chorus members know where to park, and makes certain that sound and setup runs smoothly for every rehearsal and performance. Thanks to his behind the scenes efforts and logistical expertise, chorus members are able to enjoy a seamless and welcoming experience each time they gather. Steve is also deeply committed to the needs of others. He takes time to notice which seniors may need extra assistance and is often offering help before anyone has to ask, a welcoming and enthusiastic presence.

He encourages others to join him in duets and brings warmth, humor, and energy to every rehearsal and performance. Steve's attention to detail, sense of humor, and unwavering dedication keep the senior course humming, or rather singing along beautifully. Thank you, Steve.

Thank you very much.

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Thank you. Would you like to say anything?

No. Thank you very much for this honor between Sylvia and I. She's a great director for us, and I've enjoyed my thirteen years as part of the chorus, and it's been fun. And a lot of new people in there, especially after COVID. We've got almost 35 people in there now, and they're from all different walks of life. Like we like you said, we can sing happy birthday in seven or eight different languages on a birthday. It's kind of interesting. So I've enjoyed every minute of it. Thank you very much.

Oh, thank you very much. And thank you all. Really appreciate the opportunity to celebrate you all for what you do for our community. So thank you. The next item on the agenda is items from the audience.

I have the sign in sheet for members of the public to speak tonight. When I read your name, you will come up to the podium and have three minutes to address the council. Council members generally will not respond to comments or questions directly at the meeting. Members of the public are welcome to email the council anytime at mayorcouncilredmond dot gov. The views stated by members of the public do not represent the opinion of the City of Redmond.

As a reminder RCW 29 b forty five zero one zero prohibits any public comment during the council meeting in support or opposition of ballot propositions measures or candidates all comments must pertain to city of Redmond business as indicated on the sign in sheet there are 10 people signed up to speak in person and one signed up to speak remotely. I usually call the first the 4 names, you kind of know when you're coming up. I'll start with Nathan Gibbs, then Peter Jarvis, then Erin Hamilton, then Ruth, Knott. Ruth Knott, I think.

Good evening and thank you for opportunity to speak. My name is Nathan Gibbs. I am the president of Interlake Sporting Association, and we have a number of members here tonight, if you all could raise your hand. And, so as you can see, a number of members came out tonight. I spoke before this council back in January, when we we came out to dispel some misconceptions about the club and and who we are and and the the diversity of our membership.

And I just want to say I'm really grateful for the dialogue that we've had since that meeting. It's been very productive and I think the city and the club have a better understanding of each other as a result. I specifically wanna thank, starting with council member Forsyth, coming out to the club with your husband, spending some time out there with us. Council member Parsey also came out to the club for about an hour, spent some time with us. Council member Prakria, I I understand you spoke with, our PR representative Austin Hicks.

Thank you for doing that. Council member Stewart, I understand that you also spoke with mister Hicks and appreciate the time that you took to do so. Mayor Bernie, again, spoke with with Austin and, the Rose Hill HOA direct, president. So, again, thank you for taking the time. Then finally, city attorney Mueller and director Helen all the way over there. Really appreciate you all working with our leadership team to address the issues that are important both to the city and of course

to the

club. So for the remaining members of the city council, I'd like to welcome you all to come out to the club and see what we're all about. We're happy to give you a tour, answer any questions that you have, and give you more of an opportunity to to really understand who we are. And and so I would extend that invitation and, look forward to seeing you all out there. And so while there is still much work to be done, we do look forward to continuing to work with the city leadership and try to resolve these issues that are important to us and come up with some beneficial solutions that work for the city, but also ensure the viability of the club going forward for its members and the community at large.

And for that reason, we are asking for a seat at the table at the study session on May 26. And with that, I will yield the remainder of my time. Thank you all for listening to me this evening. Thank you very much.

Next is Peter Jarvis, then Aaron Hamilton, then Ruth Knoed, then Wolfe Adriatico.

So mayor and council members, you for the opportunity to talk to you this evening. The sound impact from shooting sports facilities is well known nationally and internationally. There's nothing unique to Redmond here. But critically, the technology to address, to comprehensively address, is well established and proven. The solutions exist. It's simply a matter of investment and tailoring the solutions to the geography of the site. Intel Lake Sporting Association is prepared to make significant capital investment, totaling up to $1,000,000 to upgrade our facility to the highest modern sound standards. We are ready to move forward quickly once we have regulatory certainty. We have already taken concrete steps. We have completed a sound study.

The geotech study is scheduled for May 7, which will figure out what our ground can support. We have a $40,000 bid in hand from Schmidt Associates, who's a professional civil engineering company that will engineer, which will design permits, etcetera, storm runoff, everything be professionally engineered by a company which has done shooting ranges all over the country. We have assembled a funding plan that a small nonprofit can execute. What we're not here to ask for, we're not asking for public sector grants or subsidies. We're not here to ask our neighboring property owners to partner with us financially.

We're here for just one thing, and that's the policy commitment that will give us regulatory certainty to proceed with this investment. The certainty is what unlocks up to a million dollars of private capital for a huge public health benefit. The certainty is what transforms our facility and something Redmond can be proud of for the next generation. The generation of leaders in this room, both in the city and in the sporting association, have a rare opportunity to solve a long standing genuine challenge with a win win. A public private partnership will ensure that the city of Redmond retains its only shooting sports facility and that that facility operates in full alignment with the Redmond 2050 comprehensive plan.

ISA has served this community since 1947. All we're asking the council is to help us serve it for the next seventy five years. So thank you for your time.

Next is Erin Hamilton, then Ruth Knoat, then Wolf Adriatico, Rosemarie Ives.

Hello. So it's not a mystery of how much, a big proponent and advocate that I am for the MHP program, for the Redmond Police Department, and the MIH program for Redmond Fire goes all the way back to when Susie was kick starting this whole thing many, many years ago. But when I see online items with the budget from the last study session seeing that the MHP that is already the budget already approved and mental health training has already been approved in the budget as being on hold has me concerned. And also hearing comments from counsel saying that, oh, well there's XYZ service third party so we might not need these positions to be filled has me very worried. Right now Mary does Mary O'Brien, who's the current MHP, does an amazing work.

Tremendous effort that she does along with sergeant Jamie Ford. So I'm very concerned because right now with just one MHP, we have a lot of gaps. You know, when she's off for three days, that's three days with no MAHP qualified person on duty, which puts lives at risk. So I would like to know why it's on hold, especially when the budget has already been approved and why we're not going getting the recruiting process started. And it's important that we keep it in house and not trying to push this off to a third party.

Once you throw it onto a third party you lose control. You lose control of the quality to a certain extent and it's just handled differently. I've personally experienced it both with mental health as well as like ambulances, very basic. And the quality of care is dramatically different. So it's very important that we keep it in house where you can control the entire thing.

And to continue with the mental health, you know, going back to my previous public comment about crisis connections, I've recently spoken with members of King County, members of watchdog groups, and representatives from the Seattle Police Department that handles mental health on their side. And the quality of care at that facility is a problem. And it's disappointing to see because it's a brand new facility. And it's very rare that we get this opportunity to start something brand from the ground up. And it's disappointing that they just kind of threw that away and continued to go with the same practices that are broken now.

So it's concerning that these problems the problems are there, and they don't seem to be motivated to change or to resolve the issues. If they're not going to listen to MHPs, law enforcement, fire department, in conclusion, fire department, they're not going to listen to us. So please hire another MHP. Thank you.

Thank you. Next is, Ruth. And then Wolf Adriatico, then Rosemarie Ives, and David Morton.

Good evening, council members and madam mayor. My name is Ruth Keynote, and my pronouns are she, they. I'm coming to you once again regarding the new two hour parking policy in the Marymore neighborhood. This is a primarily residential neighborhood with four high rise communities impacted by this decision to turn all of our street parking into two hour parking windows. My fellow residents and I are very frustrated with how this poor decision has complicated our lives and we are confused by how this decision was made for us without actually consulting a single resident.

As a reminder, all of the local businesses have more than adequate private parking, as do the local community and religious spaces. This causes us to wonder exactly how this is improving lives for Redmond residents. Our legal parking options are already next to nonexistent, and literally every street parking option has been converted to a two hour parking window. A much less egregious approach would have been to consider marking only certain sections as two hour parking as opposed to removing many residents' only option for parking their vehicles in one fell swoop. There are many other alternative solutions that I and my community members would be happy to discuss with you.

Our request to the council is to be put on the council schedule for an opportunity to revisit this poorly planned and hastily made decision and to open it up for true good faith discussion, reconsideration, and a vote. Please take the time to read the posts on the official change.org petition to proactively go and actually engage with the residents of the Marymore neighborhood and act and hear directly from those whose lives have been impacted and to reconsider this matter. Thank you for your time.

Next is Wolf Adriatico, then Rosemarie Ives, then David Morton, then Linda Seltzer.

Hello. After all the hurt you have caused the community, I want so badly to stop trying to collaborate regarding the old Friarles Teen Center. For council member Noeva Camino to preach about how directly contrary to an expert, public on really does get taken into account. All while the council ignores the one simple request of every commenter last meeting that was just to draft a design before demolishing is just outrageous. You wonder why so many teens sparked your last meeting, why a crowd rallied against mayor Bernie at the OFH celebration.

I'll give you a hint. It's not because they're kids. Try listening back to the archived public comments in the past year. You have lied to and mistreated these children over and over and over. Last meeting, many other audience members applauded several times without reprimand from the council.

Save OFH teens clap once, and they are berated by the mayor. You repeat the same hollow platitudes to keep your image squeaky clean in the eyes of voters. News flash, the people who will be voting are the ones yelling at you, which is what we've been telling you from the start. I have a seventeen second clip I would like to play. It is from November 18, the council meeting where the council promised to center teen voices in the design process.

Approval to rebuild the teen center on the same location, prioritize expedience and construction, centering teen voices in the design process, and including music performance space and a dedicated recording studio to continue the old firehouse teen center legacy.

I hope that council remembers this promise and that they follow through. And I look forward to seeing when that engagement process actually starts in any way. And in conclusion, I hope that this council wakes up before every single drop of goodwill has been spent. Thank you.

Next is Rosemarie Ives, then David Morton, then Linda Seltzer, then Gordon Chin.

Rosemarie Ives, former mayor, 1992 to 2007, founder of the Old Firehouse Teen Center. Good evening, mayor and council. On Saturday, I sent my testimony to the mayor and the council ahead of tonight's meeting so every one of you could give serious consideration to my suggestion, rising above that it was coming from me, a passionate opponent of the old firehouse demolition. My sixteen years as mayor provides me with unmatched insight and experience. I have worked diligently to share my best thoughts and recommendations with all of you in the hope of doing what's best for our diverse youth.

My request to the administration is simple. The public would like to see, confirmed in writing, a comprehensive detailed plan going forward and projected timeline for completion. It would be a great first step toward accountability, assurance, and trust. All of us who have been following this issue since the closure more than a year ago want to know more than there will be a new teen center at the present location. It's alarming that there's been no outreach to teens since the council decision last November, nor outreach to abutting property owners, especially those in four fifty apartments.

This really needs to happen now. Before the old firehouse was opened in 1994, there was extensive preparation including a production of the community forum video on youth issues that surveyed two thirty six youth and two thirty one adults with a 55 question, 15 page results report that's in your archives, and convened 100 juniors and seniors for an afternoon of brainstorming. We learned a lot, resulting in the success of the old firehouse over thirty one years. Now, youth from 11 to 20 should brainstorm present and future uses and services. Once the brainstorming is concluded, there would be a process of prioritizing uses.

Then space planners would assign square footage to each use, arriving at an approximate square footage for the new building. Design scenarios would follow with each cost approximated. Finance would then present financing options including potential changes in the CIP after this process construction would begin. I had hoped that Mayor Bernie would have announced tonight that she is committed to putting a detailed plan and timeline in writing for the council and the public, bringing them to a date certain study session for discussion and concurrence. Unfortunately, Council President Stewart and counsel, the mayor seems unwilling to do so.

I would think that each of you would want a written document for your own review, as well as for assuring your constituents the necessary and expected transparency. You can do this tonight by reconsidering the demolition contract with the caveat that demolition will not go forward until the plan and timeline is made public and agreed by the council. This is what checks and balances in leadership is looks like. I am sure that the city attorney can advise you on how to proceed this evening. Council members, it's in your hands.

Next is next is, David Morton, then Linda Seltzer, then Gordon Chin, then Sean Enns.

Good evening council members and mayor. I'm David Morton. I want to acknowledge something positive about the PFAS contamination of Redmond's drinking water supply wells. On April 28, the committee of the whole considered an amendment to the Landau Associates contract, expanding it by $300,000 to fund the groundwater aquifer monitoring network improvements project. The stated outcomes include installing new monitoring wells near supply wells 1 And 2 to better define existing PFAS contamination.

That's an encouraging step. I still have a concern. Supply wells 1 And 2 are currently above EPA's maximum contaminant level of four parts per trillion for PFOS, and PFOS levels are slowly rising. The most plausible source of the PFOS is the DTG Recycle site, formerly Allwood Recycling, where a major fire was fought by six fire departments with firefighting foam in August 2013. Groundwater at that site flows West Southwest toward Redmond's supply wells.

The DTG site has never been tested for PFAS. Four parts per trillion is equivalent to one drop of water in five Olympic sized swimming pools. By my calculation, a single five gallon pail of the foam that was like likely used at that fire contains enough PFOS to contaminate roughly 39,000 Olympic size swimming pools at or above the EPA regulatory limit of four parts per trillion. The question of whether that foam was discharged onto soil at the DTG site is a central question facing Redmond's water supply. Any of the six responding fire departments might have discharged one or more five gallon pails of of PFOS based foam onto the soil at the 2013 fire.

PFOS never breaks down. That toxic contamination would last for generations. The Evans Creek relocation project, which I support, is scheduled to begin construction in 2027 and will disturb soil at and adjacent to the DTG site. Monitoring Well 25 will be sampled in summer twenty twenty six. A clean result there does not tell us whether the soil at the DTG site itself is contaminated.

I respectfully ask the council to direct staff to require soil and groundwater testing at the DTG site before Evans Creek relocation begins. The new monitoring wells will map where contamination has traveled to. Testing at DTG may tell us where it came from and whether creek relocation is about to make it worse. Thank you.

Next is Linda Seltzer, then Gordon Shinn, then Sean Enns.

Whereas the Jews are people as well as a religion. Whereas the Jews are indigenous in the nation of Israel, which was attacked and conquered by a long history of colonizers and have ancient DNA throughout the Middle East, whereas Jews were persecuted, told they were an inferior race, excluded from education and professions, forced to live in prescribed areas, and mass murdered for centuries in Europe, and expelled in the twentieth century from the Arab countries where Jews have contributed to The United States history at levels of the workforce all levels of the workforce and in volunteer work, charitable contributions, civil rights, and social good, whereas there's power and unity and diplomacy and peace rather than division and exclusion, whereas we are living in a low point of Jewish American history in the climate of disinformation in the form of anti Zionism and attacked with, quote, obsessively repeated libels, colonizer, apartheid, genocide, to demonize Israel and delegitimatize Jewish belonging with false narratives up to belonging in the words of Adam Lewis Klein, where this month provides an opportunity to learn from our mainstream community, celebrate cultural heritage, resistance, and contributions, and foster inclusion rather than exclusion, as a resident of Redmond, I hereby correct tonight's agenda, which is hurtful, dismissive, and exclusionary and unwelcoming, and hereby proclaim I hereby proclaim May 2026 as Jewish American history month in Redmond.

My own genealogical history begins with family tree ancient DNA analysis, which goes back to 10,000. There is 60% Iraq, about 20% Levant, which is Israel and Egypt, and 20% Armenia and Georgia, so 20% Caucasian DNA. My ancestors came to The United States in the '3 after the Kishinev or Kishina pogrom of April. Kishinev was part of Russia and is now the capital of Moldova. The Jews were a large portion of the population in the city.

With the false accusation that Jews killed a baby, There was mass violence and barbarism against the Jewish community. 49 people killed, hundreds raped, and there was massive property destruction, and 495 p people were wounded, 2,000 became homeless. Okay. I'll continue next time.

Next is Gordon Chin, then Sean Enns. Gordon? Gordon? Going once.

Sean?

Sean? No? We have one person who signed up to speak remotely.

Hello?

Hello. You have three minutes to address the council.

Good evening. Short one today. I would like to strongly caution the relevant departments on the choice of architect and contractor for the new facility. I appreciate Vivek's question about validation and planning in October 2026. Incentered community engagement as a subcomponent of the contractor's plan and engagement being referred to as a communication strategy should be done in a way that prioritizes community input.

It is not enough to have a conversation when the admin enters it with a predetermined outcome. I request that the administration is honest about how it intends to honor the legacy of the firehouse and that they communicate what is being done to ensure that the building is built conscious of the critical characteristics of the original facility. I request that the timeline for the development, design, and construction be made publicly available as soon as possible. I also request date of the demolition be made publicly available. A detailed timeline is necessary for transparency. Thank you.

Items from the audience is now closed. The next item of business is our consent agenda. Is there a motion to approve the consent agenda? So moved. Is there a second? Second. It's been moved and seconded. Are there any items to be pulled from the agenda? Seeing none, I have items to read into the record. Consent item number five a.

M. Number twenty six dash zero six nine ordinance number thirty two fifty eight an ordinance of the city of Redmond Washington amending the 2025 and 2026 f pay plan for employees covered by the international association of firefighters number twenty eight twenty nine union representing the represented uniform employees in the fire department. Consent item 6AM number 26Dash070 ordinance number thirty two fifty nine and ordinance of the city of Redmond Washington approving the final plat of bell coro pursuant to RCW fifty eight seventeen one seven zero and RCZ twenty one seventy four zero three zero and establishing an effective date and consent item number seven am number twenty six dash zero seven one resolution number sixteen twenty seven a resolution of the city council of the city of Redmond Washington amending the school speed zone infraction penalty set by resolution number thirteen thirty eight in accordance with Redmond Municipal Code ten twenty five zero eight zero B. This is a voice vote. All those in favor say aye.

Aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries seven zero. Thank you all so much. Next is item, the next item is our ombuds report. For the month of April, we have council member Kritzer and then for the month of May, we have council member Forsyth. Council member Kritzer.

Thank you. A lot of feedback coming into the council in the second half of this month. We had feedback around the old firehouse teen center, both feedback around historic preservation as part of the demolition process and followed up on that. We also had questions as brought tonight about timeline today at committee. It was discussed amongst council members with staff around wanting to move forward on being clear as soon as possible about what that timeline will look like and being able to communicate that out with the public.

And as we get more clarity, hopefully we can follow-up with those who have reached out on this issue as well to make sure that our teens know about the opportunities to engage in the rest of our community as well. We also received some follow-up from library board on some requests from our touch base with them earlier this year which was really really wonderful to get to hear about the work on a new imprint that they're working on there. We also got some follow-up from community members about our council rules around items from the audience and the ability for the public to address us. We have done some follow-up on that and I will continue to follow-up a little bit more there. We also had some input around our discussion on proposed comp plan amendment.

Had a couple of folks weigh in on that. And we both had a study session on that as well as we touched base on it at committee again today and we will see some action on that at the next or at the first business meeting in June. I won't step on the toes of our committee chair in discussing what we discussed there. We will be following up and take that feedback into account. We also had some feedback from various community based organizations and community members about doing more comprehensive community engagement as part of our budget process.

I'll just note that council leadership and myself as fact chair have met a couple of times both with staff and with each other to be able to follow and we will be following up with council as well with some ideas specifically on how we can do even more to really get some great community engagement and diverse community engagement as part of our budget process. We also got a request to be able to add sidewalk and bike lane connecting along West Lake Sammamish Parkway and I was able to share with that resident about some of the plans that we have in that area to build out our bicycle spine and our kind of safe areas to bike and walk. We also received a lot of feedback around parking restrictions in the Mary Moore neighborhood and are following up on that. I've both connected staff and will be following up further on that as well and with council. We also received a request for the city to consider doing more around service led transit outreach, especially for people experiencing homelessness near the light rail stations and the response there and And our staff is following up on that.

We also received some feedback around some technical issues that we had with our video feed. And our tech staff was following up on that to be able to make sure that everyone can watch all of our council meetings remotely in addition to in person. And I think I will just say I really appreciate our technical staff that work really hard to make sure that everyone can access this and a little bit of grace that sometimes tech fails us. And that we do work hard to make sure that it is as accessible as possible. We also received, I will say there is two that I have not gotten to respond to yet.

One that was about the interim official control that we passed at the last business meeting and some feedback on that. And then also about healthy food and access to salad bars in Redmond. But I will be following up on that. We also received a lot of feedback of people wanting to see more tenant protections in Redmond. The tenant protection subcommittee has been meeting and to be able to convene on this and we also talked about a study session with the council two weeks ago and or one week ago and the today actually the tenant protection subcommittee is well met to follow-up on on some of the issues that were discussed.

And then lastly, I will note that we also received two different requests. One was to recognize in the month of April Middle Eastern and North African American heritage month. And we also received a request for this month to recognize Jewish Americans heritage month. So just want to recognize the wonderful diversity of our community and the community members that identify with those different groups and to express that we're really glad to have such a wonderful, inclusive, and diverse community and recognize all the contributions of each of our community members. Thank you.

Thank you. Council Member Forsyth.

Thank you. Not too many emails this month although I will apologize. I do need to respond to the ones that have come in. So, received some community member feedback around the community vigil that was held over the I think it was two weekends ago at this point. Feedback around Lime Scooters blocking wheelchair access.

A lot of Emails about the noise ordinance changes both pro and con and an Email about the historic newspapers that was sent to us and are potentially in the walls of the Old Firehouse Teen Center. We had some follow-up from an ombuds item from our council conversations that I actually got to forward to a community member around our pedestrian safety follow-up and to those folks that are still waiting for a response, I'm on it.

Thank

you. The month has just started. Any other ombuds items from council? Councilmember Parsey, do you have them?

Yeah, just wanted to update that I am doing office hours in the format of nature walks with the community. So if anyone is interested, that is gonna happen first and third Sunday of every month at 09:30AM at the entrance of Redmond Watershed Preserve. I look forward to seeing everyone.

And will that be rain or shine? Yes. Excellent. I love it. Other ombuds items for this evening. Council Vice President.

Thank you. Just very, quick report out. Conversations recently about data centers using excessive water. Gaining some attention because Seattle is going forward with a moratorium on that. So more conversations being had.

Several conversations around the two hour parking at Marymore Village. I'm a renter, so there's conversations being there. Also, gaining clarity that the speed cameras that we will be using for at the three schools, clarity around that they are not flock cameras, that flock is still currently suspended, and then also clarity around what the funds, the fees are going to be going towards and how that is going to be spent. We did ask for staff to make sure that in whatever messaging that they put out, on social media to include that. So I'll just ask again for staff to anything that we put on social media that we specifically address the funds.

And another conversation around the interim official control as folks were curious. Three people three conversations I had curious as to who were who's requesting the permits so they have a better understanding of what that could look like. And that's the end

of my report. Thank you. Other ombuds items? Council President.

Yeah, thank you so much. First of all, for my colleagues who have been, doing the work of running down some of the questions on the parking issue in Marymore and the communication thereof, please do report back. I would love to hear where you're at on that. Thank you so much. I also want to acknowledge that on May 21, our council, we will be back in the public at the park. We'll be at Idlewood Park, May 21, five to seven p. M. Our neighborhood conversations. For any of these items and more, please come out and visit us. Council, there are posters available.

They are not, unfortunately, here tonight, but there are posters available if you are willing to help hang some of those around your neighborhood. A few other things. I had some visitors to my office hours to discuss recent pedestrian improvements throughout downtown and how those are working, as well as questions about the Energize Eastside project. I want to acknowledge that I do not have office hours on the fourteenth, which is next May. Those pre planned cancellations are always posted in my council bio.

Congratulations, council member Parsey. I'm so excited to hear about your new office hours. Maybe I'll be able to join sometime. We have had some incredible events, so I wanna thank, staff and council members who have been able to be out and about and enjoying, Cinco de Mayo that was hosted by Centro Cultural Mexicano this last weekend. We had staff leading two incredible events during Earth Week and a lot of great work was done.

Councilmember Sonny and I had a great time taking care of some of the recently planted trees. I was able to attend the launch of the east side human services collaborative as well as the Redmond Reeds program. Chair Prakria and I attended the recent police quarterly recognition event where we were able to not only meet the brand new officers that have been sworn into the PD, but also get to learn more about some of the accomplishments, including the life saving work that the department took on in the last quarter. So, really appreciated being able to attend that with Chair Procrea. Was able to attend earlier this week a tour of an independent and affordable senior living community here in Redmond.

Turned out they actually needed a little bit of advice on how to advocate for some of their needs, so that was a really great conversation. And I want to acknowledge that I received quite a bit of feedback on the council's action to establish interim official control a couple of weeks ago. As of yesterday, there is now information on the homepage of redmond.gov. So for anyone looking for information that had been previously a little hard to navigate, if you go to redmond.gov now, kind of scroll through the stories, one of them is about the interim official control related to land uses for delivery drones. We, the council, are hosting a public hearing on this on June 2, and I hope that whether you come out to our event on the twenty first, you come to the hearing or send us an email, just I really hope that we will get good solid engagement on this and hope that as team Redmond here that we can do our part to encourage a lot of robust engagement with that topic.

Thank you. That's the end of my report.

Thanks so much. Are there any committee reports? Oh, I'm sorry. Are these committee reports or these ombuds reports? Are we done with ombuds? What's it? Oh, I'm sorry. Okay. I thought we were done. Okay. Council member Prakria.

But still I'll keep this really quick. I had about a probably around a dozen constituent meetings largely dealing with tenant protections, concerns about the noise ordinance, and the interim official control. Couple of other things, council member Parsey and I took a tour of Plymouth Crossing in Bellevue. I got to give a, a speech at Nathan Hale High School in Seattle to about a thousand students for Earth Day, so that was really cool. And then, yeah, council president Stewart and I attended the RPD award ceremony. Wanna shout out the the amazing work of our police department last year or last last quarter, actually.

Thank you. Council Member Sonny.

I'll also keep it very short. First of all, everybody, those who celebrated Singudemaya today, congratulations to all of them. Had an opportunity to attend over the last weekend And again for an Arbor Day celebration as Council President Stewart mentioned, I just can't wait to see those trees becoming green and bigger so that they are able to contribute more towards the green Redmond. I had an opportunity to take a AFCIA airfield tour with Mayor Bernie council members Prakri and Parsi. The state is growing.

Cities growing. That means more travelers and there are definitely increasing challenges that's coming up. And of course there is a big need for an infrastructure infrastructure growth even at our airports and you know it was good to see the things from behind the behind the scenes rather than being just being a traveler. We had an alternate crisis meeting with a council council vice president, you are coming in council member Forsyth. We will be sharing this in the committee report.

But definitely being very passionate about the mental mental health, I also had an opportunity to attend the Bellevue Club in a side named hero for the mental health initiatives. And I'm talking to them how even from our Redmond perspective like you know how we can add more to that and support some of the initiatives that you're doing and you know how we can grow this thing. Apart from this, I also met Pride across the Bridge Executive Director to understand and learn more and to better serve them and have an introduction. So June 2 is the internal Pride Month celebration that's going to happen at the Together Center. Thank you.

Thank you. Council Member Kritzer.

Thank you. Actually following up on councilmember Sony's comment, we did receive a question from a community member around pride events in the city of Redmond and I did want to note that we'll be raising the pride flag on June 1 at nine a. M. Here at City Hall. So just want to invite the community to come join us for that.

Thank you. Okay. Any other ombuds items? I just want to miss anybody. Alright. Are there committee reports? Council member Forsyth.

Get first crack at it, thank you. We had an East Trail meeting and I chaired that meeting and we discussed the new rack agreement and memorandum of understanding. We are removing Eastway Green or Eastway Greenway Alliance from our RAC as they have fulfilled their role. So that was a big year in the making process. We're updating our vision for the future of the RAC and the future of Eastrail.

We had a really great you may remember a few months ago, I mentioned we had a really great visioning session and thank you to Lindsay Falconberg for her great insights in that meeting and the Eastrail meeting focused on how we're going to be moving forward in the next ten years of that body of work. And I am excited to have Philly Marsh as my city liaison for that project as Redmond has completed our section of East Trail and we are now going to be focusing our efforts on energizing the trail. And then earlier today, we had our planning and public works committee of the whole meeting where we approved a lot of contracts for consent, talked about some land use zoning issues, and got a briefing around the noise standard amendment standard amendments and the design build delivery method for the teen center. So, I encourage folks interested in those topics to watch tonight's earlier committee meeting.

Thank you. Council Member Prakria.

Yeah. Update on the, tenant protection subcommittee. Council member Forsyth mentioned a bit, but Tuesday, April 28 last week, we had a meeting where I was elected chair, and we we formulated a list of possible, proposals that we want to look into, as a subcommittee. We talked about it at council talk time at at our study session last week to get input from council. And today, we had a meeting with our city attorney, our planning director, and our deputy planning director.

We've kinda formulated a work plan for next steps. We're gonna get back to staff with more information about some of these proposals and work with them to create, a stakeholder engagement process that we're hopefully gonna bring some of that to counsel in a study session. Maybe maybe during the summer, we don't have it exactly figured out right now, but that's that's kind of the update, on that on that committee.

You. Committee reports. Council member Kritser. At the lodging tax advisory committee met this last week, and we are looking at the LTAC budget which will eventually come to council for approval but it's recommended by the lodging tax advisory committee which for those who are newer within our community or council that that committee is made up of a council member's chair myself and then members who represent the hotel community that that leverage this this tax on hotel stays. And then also members of groups that might benefit from launching tax funds such as community groups that put on events since that's some of the work that the funding goes into.

That's a mixture of the board there. One of the things that we discussed at the LTAC meeting this month was the opportunity to partner with the tourism promotion area, which a new entity that was created just a couple of years ago, which leverages a fee on hotel stays and is governed by a board of hoteliers that that look into how they can invest those funds into tourism. So both of these funds are really invest in tourism. As you all may know, we passed a tourism strategic plan as a city. So we had a really good conversation about how do we think about leveraging these budgets together and investing them together.

So the LTAC instead of approving our budget currently as could stand by itself, ended up deciding to send a memo which I sent as chair to the TPA board to ask them to consider co funding some different investments with us into tourism that will advance in our city together. And so, and the TPA has received that and said that they will be considering it. I just wanted to let you know that next steps are that hopefully the TPA board will be reviewing, the proposal from the LTAC Once they send it back to us what their budget is going to be and whether they will invest in, some, work with us, then the LTAC will be able to finalize the LTAC side of kind of the budget of tourism and then that will come back to So, that's a lot to share but I did want to give everyone the update and I've been working with our economic development staff. Want to give a huge shout out to Jackie Layler and Philly Marsh and Sarah Fi Allen. Just incredible folks on there who we've been working with, as well as with the BRTPA staff and everyone who's serving on there for that work.

So excited about how that's going to look. Also, we also had some really good discussions as well about the future of potentially developing out a DMO, a destination management organization that might help us to be able to kind of convene and focus all our efforts around tourism. So I think that will be something that will be coming back to the council as future discussion. I just wanted to kind of flag that since that's been a lot of work that's been going on thinking about that. And then I also just wanted to note, I have as of this year been able to serve on HopeLink in one of the elected positions and on their board.

And I just wanted to flag at a recent HopeLink board meeting, one of the discussions was around the the recent HopeLink and Atene housing merger. Others, enter HopeLink entered into a management agreement with Attain Housing to operate those properties. And so we got a real overview over the plans to be able to operate many of those affordable housing properties and just wanted to make the council kind of aware of that update as well.

Thanks. Thank you for both of those. I used to be on the HopeLink board and so it's nice to hear that Attain Housing Association has is still going because that was just being talked about when I was leaving the board and thank you again for the LTAC update and more to come on all of that with the TPA and everything else involved in that but I appreciate that update. Other committee reports council vice president.

Thank you. I'm just a quick report out to the council that the alternative crisis response subcommittee did meet recently. We were hoping to get that in before we had heard on the budget from both fire and police, but we got that in there. Actually, do think that it's perfectly timed as we heard from a community member earlier with concerns. And several of those concerns were addressed inside of that subcommittee meeting and that was getting clear on where we are now.

Had been waiting for staff to bring back some data back to us, learning where does the opportunity stand with RACER, if that's still a possibility. The word on that is that RACER is still not looking to expand and take on new members, so then it would be on Redmond to stand something up on our own. We have been getting good response from county partnership, however, it doesn't fill all the needs. Of course it doesn't. And some of the things that we learned is that while FIRE is expanding their care, especially for our elder community members, also identifying the need for more juvenile support.

Currently, there's support Monday through Friday, nine to five. However, that's not typically when folks need care. So, we definitely identified a couple of gaps and opportunities. And while those positions are on hold as we were waiting for more data to come back, they are definitely flagged as keeping in the budget. That on hold does not mean that they're going to fall out from the budget, that they're still very much there.

And continuing conversations around infrastructure and what needs to be built out for proper handoff between dialing the difference between dialing 988 and dialing 911. For the other two members that joined me, if there's anything that you'd like to add. Okay, wonderful. Thank you. That's the end of my report.

Thank you so much. Any other committee reports tonight? Council President?

Yes, thank you. I have four but I'm gonna focus on two. So just quickly to say the others were the One Redmond Government Affairs Committee and I attended the Puget Sound Regional Council Executive Board with Mayor Bernie. Next week is the Public Issues Committee, and we will get a copy of the updated letter to you all in case you do want to weigh in, but just know that the public issues committee is gonna most likely adopt a response letter on the proposed rates, excuse me, sewer rates. King County and the executive have now transmitted rates of 12.75% for each of the next six years.

So the SCA Public Issues Committee is calling for greater engagement and transparency and partnership. We will also likely take into consideration a statement regarding the Sound Transit Enterprise Initiative, which we also discussed last week at council talk time. Primarily, I want to let the council know that I spent last Friday with our statewide legislative priorities committee, and every year this committee gets better and better and better. So, I do wanna let you all know that we had a really productive day discussing the central priority of Washington cities, which for our council and the way we might think about it is how the legislature can begin expanding progressive revenue tools for cities. And we not only spent time as a statewide coalition discussing this issue, but also spent time with Leader Fitzgibbon, Senator Bateman, and Representative Hall to also discuss our interest in these issues, and what cities are most interested in, as well as least interested in, including more tools that are just sales tax increases, while at the same time the legislature is removing some of the sales taxes that are going to implement our city.

We had a really tough conversation about sales tax implications for cities in this last, session. So really productive day is all I can say. Really, really nerdy, but really great. I was staffed and supported, for this with our our legislative agenda as a city. Amy Tsai, and also Brianna Murray, our our paid lobbyist who will also be back here in our chambers with us, I think next week to talk about the impact of session on our legislative agenda and begin to think about what when we come back in September, what our agenda might look like.

So, just wanted to let everyone know it was a really productive day, and I I likely see instead of the the coalition having a series of priorities in the next legislative session, having this one. Because with financial stability, cities can deliver great public safety, deliver on transportation, deliver on great services. So, that is where the conversation is at the moment. Thank you.

Thank you. That's a great report. I'm so glad you're on that. That's wonderful. Any other committee reports? I just wanted to do an update on sound transit. So as has been previously discussed, there is a pretty significant deficit in delivery of sound transit three of $34,500,000,000 and we are working through what we can hang on to and what the prospects look like. We have to come up with a plan that is affordable, it's called. So more to come this week. We'll be having an executive board meeting on Thursday.

And right now, the goal is to hang on to in the East Side East sub area, the four line, which is the line between Kirkland and Issaquah. And I've been able to hang on to that line in development. And although the timeline has been pushed out probably five or six years, but the choice was either not have it or have it delayed. And I wanted to hang on to it, I think it's really important for the East Side. So more to come on that, but I just want to give the council and the community a heads up on that.

Pretty tough conversations around what is affordable and if people are curious why things have become unaffordable. This was passed in 2016 and as we know, there have been some pretty significant changes in our economy since then, including, cost of labor, cost of building, cost of supplies, impacts from tariffs, impacts from, you know, other choices our government has made that have made things, much more unaffordable. And so those are a lot of the implications of where we are with that. But I'm optimistic that we'll get a plan before us and then I'm also optimistic that we'll work to try to deliver those things sooner by reducing the cost of them in the ways that we can. So, more to come but I just want to give you a heads up that you might hear more about it coming up in the next few days.

Are there any other committee reports? Alright, seeing none. There is no unfinished business. There is no new business. There is, we do have two executive sessions but they're going to be split. So, the next item on the agenda is an executive session to consider the selection of a site or the acquisition of real estate or by lease or purchase RCW 4231101 B. The agenda states the item will be thirty minutes in length unless there is any objection. I would like to change the length to twenty minutes. Right. Hearing no objection, the council will now go into executive session for potential litigation RCW forty two thirty one one zero one I for twenty minutes.

I'm sorry. Wrong one. Real estate for lease or purchase, sorry, for twenty minutes. We will go in an executive session starting at 08:20. We'll be in there until 08:40 and at that time, we will come back out for action before we do our next executive session.

We are in recess. The council will be extending executive session by five minutes and then we will be back. And we're back. Is there a motion? Yes, Council Vice President.

I move for the council to approve the authorization for the mayor to execute the signing of a purchase and sale agreement for the acquisition of real property for the construction of the city's new maintenance and operation center.

Is there a second? Second. It's been moved and seconded. Is there any discussion? Seeing none, let's take a roll call vote starting with Council President Stewart.

Aye. Aye.

Aye. Aye.

Aye. Aye.

Aye. And that passes seven zero. Thank you all so much. There will be follow-up on this item in two weeks. And with that, we do have another executive session. For potential litigation for twenty minutes and action is not expected after that. We will I'm sorry, it's fifteen minutes. I'm sorry, my notes are confusing. We have an executive session for fifteen minutes. Thank you all for keeping me honest. And at that time, we will adjourn the meeting. We will be in executive session from 08:55 to 09:10 and then we'll be adjourned. Thank you.