Health, Welfare & Recreation Committee - Regular Meeting

All righty. I'd like to call this meeting to order. This is the Health Welfare Recreation Committee. Today is April 22nd, 2025 at 6 PM. And first of all, take a role here. We have everyone present. Um, I'd like to um if I could on our new business, I'd like to put our rule fire update like to have all the anything would be new business that wouldn't brought up. Um, we won't have an update tonight, but we got some concerns in rule fire. So, put that on we'll adopt that on 6A. So that being said, I make a motion to approve the agenda as modified. I have a motion by Mr. Morris. Second, second by Mr. Duncan. All in favor of that? Eyes have it. Moving on down the line to u approve the minutes from our previous meeting which was in February. Last month we had some folks that couldn't make it so we had to cancel it. So, if you would look over your minutes on the back page, please, if you see anything, please let me know. I'd entertain a motion to approve. I'll make a motion approved the minutes. Motion by Dwight Miller. I'll second. Second by Mr. Morris. All in favor of approval of the minutes. I have it. So, moving down to uh number five. Any public comments? Doesn't look like it. No public comments. That was last meeting. last meeting. Okay. At planning commission. All right. No public comments. Let's move down to our unfinished business. And that would be our rule fire update which we modified that to have uh two different departments here. And if you would whichever guys

you guys want to talk, you're free to come up to the podium and talk. Microphone's already on. Hey, I'm Mark on the assistant chief with Summitville Fire. Um, our 41,667. The end of that is this year. We would like to try and get it renewed. It's been a great help to us to get equipment, things we've needed to improve our departments. Well, to my understanding, it's it's approved until this year. This is the final year. It's the final year. Once in June of this year will be the will be it. Yeah, that's correct. So, we'd like to get it started, start the process for this next fiscal year. Okay. Can we do this again? Yeah. Yeah. Go right ahead. And and this is I'll share with you, Sammy. This is this is what you were asking again. What were you saying? What the 41,67? Okay. Um was put in five years ago by um Joey Hobs and U. Jimmy Hollmsworth was the ones that brought it up to and it was commission and it was passed by this committee in Senate budget finance. This is the first committee we got to go through. Um, and it was voted on for four years and this is the last year that we do it. And it the money was coming out of rural infrastru was it rule capital. Okay. Capital outlay money is how that money come out and we had to take bids on everything. Either take a bid or it had to go through Maretta's office. And at when they hired Stephanie, y'all remember Stephanie? and everything was going pretty good and now Stephanie's gone and we have to go back through Maretta's office and um that this year has been more of a hassle.

Gotcha. Um I don't know rules changed or what we we need to figure out some way if we're going to. As far as I know, nothing's changed except for we had a rep uh we had u a new person take over purchasing and it's run out of Mariana's office versus independently is Stephanie's office. So, and but now um used to do it went to $10,000 that we had to get three bids for everything and now it's went back down to 5,000. It's 5,000. Anything under before anything under 5,000 we'd get a PO no issues. Now they're saying that between a,000 and 5,000 we have to submit the work the invoice get approval and then we can order and on top of that everything has to be shipped to this office to their office. And that's where a lot of the problem lies is going through purchasing. We we appreciate the money. We do. We buy a lot of stuff. Um we we submitted in for a cascade system. Y'all what have y'all submitted in? Y'all submitted for various various things, you know, and the biggest problem is having to jump through the hoops of the office on this. And um if there's you can't use it for a truck payment, you can't use it for we've brought this up in the past. You can't use it for a truck payment. You can't build a building out of it because everything that 41,000 has to be used completely that year. And in order for us to buy our cascade system, um we can't divert it to next year. The cascade systems 42. I'm asking him because he's the one that ordered it.

It's a little between 40 and 45,000. 45,000. Well, new union's going to pick up the rest of the money, but you got to make that PO fit the 41,000 and then we got a lot of paperwork. Okay. Back and forth between, you know, and that is part of it, you know, but if there's any way that we can make this simpler for Marietta and us to where it could be conducive for both both people. And the biggest thing is if we ever if we do take it out of that, it would be easier if you before you put it in the capital outlay. Bring it. Just don't put it into capital outlay. Put it in general funds to where we can get it in our funds. Does that make sense, Tim? It would have to stay rule though because you're generating money from the rule parties. Okay. So, it would have to stay on the rule side. It can't go to the general fund. But could it be like itemized or something out of capital before it went to capital outlay before that money went into that? I think we could come up with another line item to keep it in. Yes. You could come up with another rule out of the bottom to keep it. Yeah. But how how is that going to make any difference through? It's still going to have to go through her if there's nobody in the purchasing agent. If the purchasing agent is still in her office, it goes through her. But here here's the thing with that though. We have a purchasing committee. Yeah. That we could run it through the purchasing committee and we need to get a definition of the 10,000 or the 5,000 because I was I'm under the understanding that it's 10,000 before you have to get a beat. As of last week, out of their office, I was told it was 5,000 or less. We didn't have to do three quotes. Okay. from Okay. So, pricing thresholds for

one penny to $999 does not have to have 1,00 to 4,999 does have to have a requisition and a PO. 5,000 to 49,999 has to have three quotes and a PO and 50,000 and above has to be put out. Okay. So, anything under $1,000 you don't have to do a PO on. Correct. Correct. Okay. From a th000 to 5,000, you do have to get a PO from her. And that ought to shouldn't take more than two days. My opinion. My opinion. Okay. That's just my opinion because I don't know everything that they do back there. Okay. I'm learning a whole lot. And then the 5,000 to the 10,000 you have to get three quotes. 5,000 to 50,000. 5,000. Okay. You have to get three bids. Yes, sir. Okay. And you have to take the bid. Yeah. And that sometimes can be an issue because not so much it's the follow. Yeah. Oh, I understand. Yeah. And I think if we went to the purchasing went ran it through purchasing. Okay. To me, if you if you can give me I want to buy X over Y because X costs $500 more than Y does. But this guy's going to give me $2,000 worth of service. Mhm. And I know every time I pick the phone up and call him, Yeah. he's going to answer. Or she, this person, the X matches what we have. Yes. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Same thing like a Thomas bus. Yeah. I see before we did this before it was the previous three years. It's I think we was running that food purchasing committee. Okay. That's how we was doing it. And like you said, when Stephanie left, things kind of, you know, kind of changed real fast. Okay. Well, I know like when we do it with the schools, all my P's and Q's have to be in order because I don't want to get April in trouble with an audit. I understand.

So, let me find out about all that. But things have just gotten real complicated real fast for everything. Okay. Michael works for Safe Industries and which is a fire department or fire vendor. He can't even deliver the part from Nashville to here. He had to pay what? $90. Another $80 shipping on an air tank for a truck that we're got a band-aid on trying to fix. And we was told and his work is sitting right there and he can't bring it here. Okay. That was $90. You know, there's a lot of tell you something. It didn't make sense to me either. I'm not sure I understand that. Yeah. Why couldn't it just be receded? Whether they bring it or you bring it, I don't know. And SAFE was going to pay me to bring it here to the Yeah, budget finance office. You can sign it. They sign for it and then I'd sign and pick it up for the department. What we can what something we can do is we can uh I'm the chairman of purchasing. We can call a a purchasing meeting in order and we can get we can have Mariana come to it and then we can maybe all straighten it out. We just need to this up. How does it get receeded to begin with? Do does your fire department or does it go through the county? County. Who receats it? Do they actually bring it here? Now they have to. Yes. Now they have to. They have to. This makes a lot of work for everybody. That's the problem. Say, we're we're talking about ordering 1,800 ft of hose that would have to come here and then you have to pick it up and then we have to pick up between 8 a.m. and 4:30 p.m. when most of us are at work. It's got to be okay. And you got to come here and bring a tractor up here. There's got to be honesty, too. I mean, for the last three and a half years, like for us, we've got LKQ, we've got Advanced Auto Parts. If we order it from

safe, I can pick it up because I'm right there. Um, and it's never been an issue. Never been an issue. This year it is. Y'all want to try to y'all want to try to address it through this or you want to try to do it through purchasing? I mean, we can I mean, we can just something there. Yeah, we just we need to get need to get it all situated. I'm not real sure what the process is that straighten out. We don't I don't know the process how the county receipts to all that stuff. Anyway, that's what I'm saying. We We need a Well, Tim, when you get stuff at the school bus garage, does it come here? No, we That's what I'm talking about. I mean, some of the stuff might go through. You might have something small go through the mayor's office or something, but hoses and stuff. I mean, I've had my pickup truck full of stuff here and had to come up here pick it up. Okay. Whenever they would have just brought it to me straight. Yeah. Well, did one person just change this automatically overnight or is this something that was changed by some committee or we don't know that? It never wasn't. That's what we're trying to find out. It never was changed through purchasing committee. We ask to make a motion to go before the purchasing committee. You want to make that motion? Should we? Well, what I'm going to come up here tomorrow and ask her. Okay. You don't want to have to go through committee because that delay thing. I'll come see her tomorrow. That's fine. June 30. Okay. Do you have to have it in hand? It just has to be in shipment. Okay. Our cascade system. Okay. But as long as you got a PO for it, you're good to go. Correct. Okay. Like my buses my buses are are being delayed right now. We come to like June 15th and we're like, "Oh crap." Yeah. We

have to spend all this money. So, okay. Got a PO and it I mean it took six months. We ordered a bunch of Yeah. And you know that was no problem. Okay. And that was with Stephanie and most time they would drop it there and she said just send me a picture of it. Yeah. Send her a picture and I say send in a picture and you can print that and just download and keep it in a file. Yeah. Because it's going in your inventory anyway. Yeah. I mean, if if we've got to be verified on this, that that's one thing. More than come look. Yeah, I understand. I think it's Jonathan, a name they Jonathan, our new purchasing agent. I've been dealing with a Daniel Daniel. Yeah, that's who I've been dealing with. Okay. Okay. Well, I'll come see her tomorrow and see if I can get you some answers. Thank you. Thank you. Will you call me Tim? And then after that, we'll set up. I'll be here about 8:30. The next thing we might as well talk to the same thing. The 41,000 run out this year. Okay. Is there any possibility that we could was that a quarter million dollars a year? Yes. It was 250,000 and that was the magic number between six. It has to be brought up or renewed. Okay. For this budget. Yeah. Yeah. Can we get that in the next budget next year? ter. I was going to say that's where it's going to end up. You got it's going to come out of rule capital ally. Okay. Rule money only. Okay. That's where it came from last time, right? But you got you got try to got a recommendation from this committee that was sent to them. Yes. And that's where we're at. When that happened, I was on budget and finance, right? Right. As far as I know we need it. Did You say it's got to come out of rural budget finance or rural capital outlay. There's no way that we can get it to where North Coffe need a new station down at Beach.

We're needing for a truck payment. I'm sure y'all could use it for a truck. Air air packs. Well, but big line items that are multiple years. Is there any way that in the wording of this that we could use this in Mayor, could you bank that back? I think the reason don't really know what I think. How many How many dollars are we talking about? 40 41,000 same as a year for each department. Would it have to be banked back? Because like we bought a new truck already and our payments are 40,000 a year and you know it would help us pay it off quicker to replace the next and I'm sure that y'all would be in the same boat and North Coffee would be where they buy land building and furnish with a truck. You know it would be where they could do a multiple year because you buy the land and build the building. That would be a lawyer question for me more than likely. Yeah. And and that that's fine, but we would like to get it to where we could use it. I know then three three departments could use it in that scenario. Is the truck titled in New Union volunteer fire department? Yeah. Because we have to sign for it. Okay. So it's it's it's deed to the entity, not the people. Yes. And the entity is one that borrows money. Okay. Well, I thought I had heard in the past, not yours necessarily, but some some actually did their own personal loans, which shocked me. Yeah, but they did. That was kind of done on their own behalf. Aaron's father was in on that on Hillsboro. Oh, they didn't do personal

to my know they did a personal loan. They just got signed. No, personal guarantee. Yeah, Donnie signed his name for trucks to the Coffee County Bank just as a that he would make sure the payments were made to money there, right? Well, we could if the money's there and rule is, you know, and that's why people should shop at Dollar General store. The more you buy and and the more that we buy online and have it shipped to your house generates more rural taxes for Coffee County. Am I right, Mayor? I'm pretty sure you're right. So instead of going to Murphysboro to buy something at Belk, order it online and have it shipped to your house, don't go to Walmart. Order it if you live in If you live in the country like me, order it and for $35, they'll bring it to you for free and sit it on your porch. $35. If you order $35. Yes, sir. $35. No, no, no. If you order No, I'm sorry. Let me restate that. If your order is $35, they'll bring it to your house for free. And then that generates rural taxes. Well, it's too late for Coffee County people need to understand that though is I if you know everybody wants to run to Murphy'sboro, well that's great, but you're leaving your money down there to where if it is Bel or Goodies or something like that down there, whatever they shop at where my wife goes, if you order it online and it's shipped here, we get the taxes. You're still getting that thing. You go down there window shop and then come home and order it. Yeah. Amazon, we get the taxes off of that. Yeah. And that's why our online if you see sales tax added to your It's coming to the county. It's coming. Yeah. And the state helped us on that. Some eBay sellers do. Yeah.

They don't do that. You got to watch. Most all of them do pay now. It's hard to get through without it. Jackie, if you shop in the rural Dollar General, Manchester and don't get their part of it because it's rural, right? So that sells tax. It's wherever the point of sale occurs. Yeah. Yeah. The POS. And uh that's why the rural Dollar General stores have been good for Coffee County for the rural taxpayers. So that's good to know. Yeah. And you know to share that with your neighbors and stuff. If you see something in Murphy'sboro, come home and order. Come home and order it. You don't even have to come home. You can look Oh, yeah. You can get it on your phone. Yeah. But that just that just generates more and more and that's why that's why rule has gotten in better shape because of the sales tax. Well, good. But is going back to our question I would have to ask the ask the lawyer if legally we can bank it. It couldn't advance it to you because I don't know if the when you say bank it you carry it over. Yeah. Hold it for two years or something. Well, the county does that for a number of things. I I know, but I just won't get the contracts and everything else legal. We had to do that for uh all that federal money to carry it over. Uh but this this is rule. I've never done that before. It's a start. It will help. I don't know that it makes a difference. We got to spend that money each year. Yeah. We get down to the end of the year, we're buying trinkets for to give to kids. Well, I never like the idea we got to get rid of this money. Yes. Yeah. That's that's that's dumb. That's what the federal government does. But if we can do it on big purchases, I I will get him to ask because they did that with my school on my transportation. Whatever I say, whatever we save down there rolls over into a bus fund. They don't get it back. Okay? And it gives me an incentive to save. So everything that we can cut off of our

budget when my guys are done, they roll it over into a closed loop to where they can't take it. It can be used for school buses and that gives you an incentive to want to save. Yeah. Because it instead of it going back to the general fund, it goes over here and you can say, "Hey, we everybody down here has done this and we could buy a bus with it." So, well, I think when all this started, it was we decided needed money because of COVID and things. Y'all could not do your fundraisers and all that sort of thing. and thought a little everybody needs equipment for safety, etc. And they decided, okay, it'll only be used on equipment, etc. But I don't know that the county would care again if we bring it back up. You think whatever it's going to be used for, purchased for whether it's a truck or or each department, you think, you think y'all are getting caught up on like stuff that you needed far as equipment is the last four years? That's what started. Yeah. The smaller stuff like hoses, novels, and it wasn't guaranteed for four years. It was guaranteed year to year, but with the thought was we'd at least do it for four years. No, I take it. We did. At first it was year to year, but then the next year we came back. We still have to approve it in the budget every year. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. But it we extended it for But we didn't guarantee it. That's right. budget finance had to and we appreciate everything county does for us, but you know, I sat there and worked up a budget on what a real fire or what a paid fire department would cost and it's in the millions. I think we all know that. I understand that. But

is that tea or green tea? Green tea. That was some of those thoughts we were talking about putting up with the money anyway. I get but if if we can at least get that brought back up one of y'all three that way I won't be making me making the motion to send it to bud finance. Well, I don't like the chairman to to bring but if you want to make a motion Jackie will something up. What's your motion? You're going to you're going to have to I know it down. So I'm writing it. So Tell me what the motion how it should be stated to look at reinstating $41,000 416 million divided six ways but it's it's it's known as our the smoke detector program where they're I'm just going to say look at reinstating the smoke detector fund money. Is that okay? Yeah. Is that require the smoke detectors? Is that is that 12 detector install a year? Is that is that is that hard to do now or is it can we do it? It comes in spurts around our fundraisers. Can you still can you still do 12 a year? I mean we I think it's manageable. I'm not sure why we did that to begin with as an incentive. Incentive thought it was to get because the smoke detectors are free. So you're installing them to pro protect the people. It's like, you know, it's like say it's one life, it's worth it. Yeah, that's right. One Yeah. One life is worth doing in Lawrence County. They didn't have smoke detectors in that house, did they? Burn up. We've been resences in it. There's 12 residences. 12 several houses that are detectors are still they burnt something on the stove or something. And it gives you real it gives you a real 10 years. If you don't mess with them say every 10 years you

got as long as you don't mess with them tinker with them they last for 10 years. It gives you a real good selling gives you a good thing when you take it through budget finance. It's a good sale point for them. Well and it's good for the citizens to know that too is hey if I if I get them to put a fire detector in my house I'm number one notch out of 10 or 12 for them to get their $41,000. So everybody ought to get in the ball game and play. There was a we don't have I mean generally we can find 12. I mean it's not a problem. I get it called every two or three weeks. There you go. So there's her motion. There's your motion. You going to second it? I'll second it. There's your second. A motion by Roseanne for reinstatement of the smoke detector program. And we have a motion by her. And we have a second by who? Jackie. Jackie Duncan. All in favor of that motion. I eyes have it. Now, on the future money, can we see if we can bank it? Yes, we're going to ask the mayor to ask the lawyer. What did y'all just make a motion to do to move quarter of a million dollars a year divided six ways, which is $41,667. Of course, it's going from here to budget and finance. So, it hadn't gone anywhere yet. Can they put it away for a year or two years and bank it and have a bigger draw off of it the second year? You mean we keep it? Yes. For interest bearing? Yes. Okay. Yeah. You'd be making money off of it. Yeah. Well, yeah. I think we need I knew that was coming. Sammy want Sammy wants the interest. I get 5%. Tim, do you want me to present this to y'all or you you want to do it yourself or how do you want to do it? I'll do it myself. Yeah. Okay. Well, we need to send it up anyway. It needs to come in format. Well, she's okay. When is the budget? When is this going to be? Probably in May. Okay. Cuz Thursday night's full. Yeah, I understand. I

don't But we can get it. I can go ahead and ask her and see where we're standing with the money. Okay. On that because if we are generating that, I mean, and it can be used for a good purpose, and I truly believe it is, that's, you know, it needs to be used. Appreciate So, we'll give I'll we'll give this to you Tim. It's uh it's saying it's looking reinstating the smoke detector fund to budget finances, but we'll have a meeting in early May, too. It'll be committee forward item. Okay. Take all. All right. Anybody have anything else? Aaron, got anything? Did y'all talk about animal control? No. No. All right. We had a pre construction meeting and the contractor supposed to start mid May. Right. So just know good good contractors starting miday. Mhm. I think completion date was early January. Anybody got anything else on on that? Uh, I have a question for the firemen. I should have asked you while you were standing up here. Um, it's been asked to me, so I'm going to ask y'all. Do y'all have Do you know where all the fire hydrants in the county are? They're plotting. We have an app. You have an app? Yes, ma'am. That only y'all can get on. I don't want the app, but it's a backup system. When we're timed out, it also sends an alert to our cell phones of what calls we have. Okay. It's called active 911. We do have we go in, we pull out where our hygien Okay. And it's shared across the county.

So we share every volunteer department shares it with Manchester along with tele. So if we go anywhere in the county, everybody has the same information. Okay. That's where we're standing at now. Those are all the hundreds we have around. So all right. Um well, and the reason is is all of the talk about the zoning in A1 and and what's the availability of the hydrants and where are they and are they working? And I know over the past two, three years, we've had discussions about the fire hydrants and if they're working. And we had the fire the water people here too, right? And they they didn't know which ones were working or not, did they? Okay. I think down in Beach Grove they have some issues with they were out of water today over on the old the old Murph. Yes. Was it Oscar Road? Yeah. And I know there's been some issues with getting some of them actually functioning. Mhm. Department app my district west Hillsville and Manchester Hillsville don't have any water in our area but we have water lines or we don't have any hydrants but we Hillsville water lines. I got water and I don't have any fire down my road. Way side doesn't have not. Is it a 6 inch line? Trust me. I had to I literally had to run a 2 inch line to our house to get pressure. No. To get water. Oh, to get Okay. I've got Manchester on one corner. I got West on the other corner. And is

the Manchester down there at the end on Maple Springs? No, Maple Springs stops in front of our barn. My barn there. Yeah, Manchester runs on Creekide. Okay. And then West Warren comes up to the creek right there. Are they 6 inch? West Warren is to that stop and they would like to loop back in which is over next by the middle school. They said that was in their longterm plans and they wanted me to say I needed water so Manchester wouldn't turn me down at bar. Do you have problems last summer? No, actually. Wow. I've got a my 12t deep clean. That's kind of amazing. It is. It was dry everywhere else. I think if you hit a spring though, it's coming to the surface. It's not gonna go digging it well. It used to feed New Elementary School. Oh, wow. Years ago. Okay. Well, I'm the water I'm the water person. So, you and me. Okay. Let's Let's move on. Now, my water report, $660,000 to put Jart Road in. And Wow. She and I both had a come apart. She has sent emails, been on Facebook. I know that they have contacted News Channel 5 and News Channel 4. Um, I haven't heard anything back from that. As my understanding is, we as an entity that we are not a water department, we can't qualify for grants, nor can we force the four water entities to add people. Am I right, Mayor? I think that's right. Okay. So, we are

at almost like a standill that there are people out in the county that don't have water that would cost them $60,000 a home to get water at least. The people on JU Sarton, I think there's six houses there. So, it's $100,000 a piece. These people can't afford that. And I don't know good I don't know who who to go to the state I don't think uh that's one thing that I have not talked to she's talked to Janice Bowling are going to talk with her u but the water entities the West Warren the Hillsville the Manchester City they're the ones that can qualify for the grants we can't we don't own and and getting them to do that for four or five people is not a priority of theirs And I've asked our guy if he would help and he said that he would but finding them and stuff. So how many potential customers are out there? Eight on Jart. Yeah. They're drinking out of creek. And then one of them that was going to build a home out there dug a hole and I don't know if it was 150 foot deep, but they bought a dry hole out and they quit. Uh, and you can't bring, you know, if you're going to build I mean, you can't buy a house now for under $250,000 a new home. I mean, who's going to bring Creek Water into an investment like that? And nobody's going to Nobody's going to loan any money on it. Yeah. They're just going to quit because there's no water there. So, I agree. It's a bad problem. Tua. Well, when it gets down to it, it's like the zoning stuff. We're talking about the five acres and all that. Somebody's

going to have to run these lines for anybody to get development. Should it be the taxpayer? No. No. I say somebody. It's going to have to be a developer or a utility. If a utility is run right and don't have a lot of leakage, are they making a profit? No, not really. You're you're uh you're just paying your expenses basically. Yeah. You're just covering your cost. Okay. So, if I went out and borrowed a million dollars to add water to someplace to say I'm just a nice utility, would it take 10 years to pay it back? Well, it depends. Are you going to make the area that you're spending that on pay that or are you going to make the whole base? See, that's I don't I don't know how. And that's the problem. Yeah. Eight people can't afford to absorb that much money. And the rest of the group has already paid for theirs. Then is it wrong? Are you turning it into a social socialism to make everybody pay for those that don't? That's why you don't need to stick a subdivision. Yeah. 10 miles out and no uh infrastructure to help. So, Mr. Morris, rule water being your passion. What do you what's what do you think's going to happen with the JD Sarton thing was nothing? No water. I don't see them getting water this year unless Manchester. Now, the gentleman from Manchester has talked to her some, not a lot, but they have talked a little bit. It was my understanding, but from her that they had a guy that was a contractor that was going to dig the trench and lay the pipe, and we were going to pay for the pipe and pay for a water hydrant to go down there. But

they're saying that their lawyer says that the liability and I don't know what it is but I know all these lawyers are scared of lawsuits that the liability of doing this could cost Manchester City and they wanted to have their my understanding they wanted to have their own contractor do it do their work. Yeah. So Okay. Anything else? That it. Yeah. Roseanne should not go without saying don't buy a house if you don't have water for sure you can't beware how many times have you heard that it's like sewer too if you don't have septic or something you're never going to sell those houses but Manchester City has to have their contractor install the lines by their standards because it's their lines after it's in the ground. Who's who do you want to call when they spring le so they want it done their way. Yeah. You know, so you can't blame can't blame Well, you don't want to take over something that's a maintenance problem from now on. Correct. But the other side of that is they are going to get the revenue from their own and it didn't cost them a dime to get it. Right. So it's double-edged. They might not want to pay that contractor that they had hired. Who's going to pay that? Maybe Manchester City could, you know, it just seems like there's more than one way to skin a cat. If it it gets directly what he just was talking about and asking who you gonna make pay that if it's only these eight people those eight but more affordable price

they were going to pay somebody to dig it. I don't know what that money would be. Manchester just has to look at it and say, "We're going to take that as aid of contribution money and how much more is it going to cost us to finish it." And then they've got to look at it and say, "How long will it take us to recover? What our cost is going to be?" Because your water lines won't run forever anyway. So, no, you got to have enough revenue to keep all that going. Okay. All right. Let's move on to 6C. Rosanne, you got anything on our direct update? I do not have any update at this time. Okay. How did the uh did our our grants that we were looking into? How was anything? Nothing that nothing. Nothing yet because we don't have that, right? We don't have a recreation. We don't have a Yeah. Yeah. But I think they was going to like get our something for the Nothing ever panned out. Not not yet. We don't have a water department, nor do we have a recre department. Gotcha. And you can't qualify for a grant. Well, we it looks like for this purpose, we'd have to get the communities together to decide if we're going to benefit the citizens. Who's going to pay for it? All right. Of course, if you get enough grants, that'd be fine. But you're still going to have maintenance from now on. Oh, yeah. And that's what they're going to have to look at and see. Okay. All right. Moving on to seven. Any new business need to be brought up? There is. Now's the time to do it. Anybody got anything? Nothing. Tim, um, did we ever check in that county

Christmas tree with the 4H department kids? She said, "Let's get through, uh, farm city day first." Yeah, we need announced that farm May the 3rd. It's a Saturday is Farm City Day. It'll be at the Coff County Fairgrounds. Okay. So, we're not planting. We'll be there. After Farm City Day, we're going to check into that. Yep. That'll be a Christmas tree grown in the county. It'll be put up on the courthouse square grown by Coffee County. Coffee County. Manchester Teleer out in the rural. be like the Wilkins Christmas tree was in Tele. There you go. All right. Number eight, set time date for our next meeting. And I'm thinking May 22nd, Thursday night, 6 p.m. That sound good? Sounds fine. 5:22 May 22nd, 6 PM. It is a Thursday. Thursday. Yep. Okay. All right. Now I need a motion for German. So moved. Second. Motion by Mr. Moore, second by Dwight Miller. All in favor of German. All right. Budget and finances on May the 22nd. What' you say?