Parks and Recreation Commission - Regular Meeting

I know I don't need this, but call to order. Uh, stand for the pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Roll call. John Jones here. Kate Smith here. Robert Smith here. Here. Dennis here. Bridget is absent, right? But excused. Yes. Kathy, is she absent? And excuse. Oh, Kathy's here. Yeah, Kathy's here. Cop check. I didn't see you. Sharon Perala, is she absent but excused? I haven't heard from her, so she may be here later. Okay. Jen McConnell, absent and excused. I don't Or you haven't heard from I haven't heard. Okay, hang on. And Rob Jones here. Good. Approval of the agenda. I need a motion to approve tonight's agenda. I'll make a motion to approve today's agenda and I'll second the motion. All in favor? I passes 6. Approval of the minutes. We're just going to leave that one there. We're going to add that we're going to approve the minutes for April and May. In

June presentations, we have Radcliffe Community Update, Erica Smith. Erica, you're on. Thank you. I think if the the uh screen will pop up the presentation. Hopefully, we're all set. Okay. All right. So, I wanted to take a few minutes and provide an update. I know if you saw the last council meeting, there's a lot of interest in what's happening with our committee. So, um I don't want to assume everybody knows. Um so, next slide. As a reminder, this is a committee. It's a subcommittee of the parks and recck commission, and it's made up of uh myself, a contractor, Kelly Williams, three of our park and recck commissioners, Kate, Sharon, Bridget, and three city council members. Um the per next slide. The purpose of the committee and this isn't formalized but my understanding was to provide oversight of the ARPA Wayne County grant project. So this uh I'll recap that grant specifically. Um but it was really to engage our stakeholders like uh our council, our park and recck commissioners, people who have a special interest in Radcliffe um and to really have some guidance. Um and then something from the very beginning was to improve transparency, right? So uh when this grant started, there wasn't a lot of transparency. So this committee was formed uh well the first meeting was in March but this was the purpose of the committee. So next slide the priorities driving grant spending. So this slide is actually directly out of the July presentation I did when I was brand new. Um and this holds true till today. There's three key priorities. Grant compliance, right? making sure that whatever we're spending qualifies for grant reimbursement. Uh it seems like a no-brainer, but we know um one of

the grants, the CDG CDBG did not qualify and what we thought when when we thought we were spending grant money uh that was not the case. So being compliant is really uh important. Number two was to spend thinking about the future. And again, this is from last July, uh, before we had before I knew about the cuts coming our way. So even then, we were looking at preserving the building and planning for long-term operation based on the staffing and funding available, knowing that we're not going to have grant money to operate year in and year out. And then the third thing, um, third priority is, as I mentioned, rebuilding trust. So that's transparency, improved reporting, community council input, and respect for the processes. So these were those priorities in July, and I wanted to circle back to them and really uh put them into our committee because that's really um you know, at the heart of the committee. So the next slide is just a general recap of the ARPA county um grant. So, this was a $4 million grant for Radcliffe Renovations. Um, it had a $1 million match that Garden City already put in. Um, to date, we have spent submitted invoices and been reimbursed for 3.2 million of the four, right? um in progress or encumbered meaning we've committed to it, council's passed it, work is underway, is around 235,000. So, uh 548,000 is what's left to spend and again we have to complete and expend all of the funds by October 31st. So, that's a big recap. I have a question. Sure.

So, in other words, are you saying that it's only a $4 million grant because your total to me only comes to 4 million? Yes, it's I'm not sure I understood that. Okay, let let's we'll do this real slow. Submitted as 32, right? Y left to spend 235 or I mean incumbent 235. The 548 that's 4 million but we're talking five. Nope. Where's the other mill? Nope. That that's a So the 4 million includes the 1 million. It's 3 million and one from us. Nope. The 1 million was expended before I even got here before we really even executed this grant. So it was in progress. It was part of the leveraging for grant money was showing the investment and that came from, you know, it was originally ARPA funds, but it was in the general fund capital. So, so it's really $4 million that is being reimbured for. Does that make sense? 5 million spent for right for basically a 5 million spend, but we spent a million of it before we got the grant. Right. Right. Well, and there's other funds, right? There's the 2.1 HUD that's in progress or in steps and then there's a CDBG 200,000. So, in total, it's a $7 million plus project, but the committee is really focusing on the ARPA uh primarily on that particular grant. So, the next slide and this is again a repeat slide. This this is the approved project scope areas. So the top left square was what was in the grant application and this is

so critical because these project scope areas have not changed. Um what has changed is the budgeted amounts in each of them because as spending um and we've talked about this before but some of the the anticipated costs were just really low or just so much more was spent. So last fall um in meeting and I meet with ARPA every other week to touch base on how we're doing. um they allowed us to remove around the budget so we could add more money to the roof, right? We knew we weren't building a separate gymnasium, so we shifted all of the budget around in August of last year, but we had to keep all of the project scope areas. We cannot add new things or um just spend it on other things. It's it's tied to what was approved by the Wayne County Board when they executed the grant. Yeah. So, what you're looking at here is the original budget, the revised budget, and then the next slide is the most current budget revision. So, they've been asking for us to revise it because the last um reimbursement that I had put forward, we were way over in some areas and we were using contingency money and they wanted us to go back and resort it so that we're not using as much contingency because if you remember, we had 200,000 for the ADA bathrooms, then we got the other grant so we uh were able to take that money and distribute it into other project scope areas. So this page is showing again all of the same project scope areas but a revised value based on either actual cost and then some are anticipated. And this project is very non-traditional. Usually

for a project this size, we would have professional project managers. we would have engineering services, design services, you know, but as often can happen in smaller governments or even in parks and wreck, we just get tasked to do these other other areas. Um I forget why I was saying that, but there was a reason. Anyway, um Oh, I know. Because we don't have exact costs. Um, we're doing our best within the committee and with our contractor giving us estimates, trying to get quotes on things, but it's really difficult to know what the gym expansion um, and that's like the removal of the stage and the flooring, what that's going to cost until they completed the demo. And we could see what was there, where the duct work was, and those sort of things. So, it's very fluid and changing all the time. Uh but this is the rough um you know budget we're now operating within and you can see it all totals to 4 million. All right. So the next page can I can I jump in again? Yep. I'd like to go back. Are we putting the new boiler and the resurface asphalt parking lot in another wish list or another that just off to the side or is that just going to get forgotten about and then one day it's going to be a big headache because we didn't take care of it? Yeah, I mean we don't have enough money for all of the original things that were envisioned, right? So there is no money allocated to the asphalt parking lot. Um what was the other one you mentioned? New boilers. The new boilers that we're utilizing the HUD money for the boilers and the HVAC system. So remember that's a different funding source. So that is a zero uh budget line now. So maybe in the revised budget we

should put that in there. HUD HV this budget just to be clear this is ARPA only. So when I deal with ARPA, they don't really care what we're doing with HUD. Like right, but I'm saying if other people are going to be looking at this, I'm thinking somebody else might ask the same question and say, "Okay, so we're just going to wait till the boiler is crap and then we're really it's going to be a half a million dollars instead of 300, right?" Well, I'm just I'm just saying somebody else would scope. Yeah, this was the original scope. No, no, I don't. No, I get what you're saying, but I I don't know how many other people are going to look at this sheet and have the same question I have because it'll be like, well, you have to remember we're all treading on thin ice, right? Because of everything that's happened. What I see happening is is one of these days all of a sudden there's going to be be a big sinkhole in the parking lot over there and we're going to go, "Oh, we should have took care of that 10 years ago. We we knew we had to do something, but we put it to the side because we didn't have the money for it. I'm just saying we need to make sure that those stay out in front of us if money is available. Are they on some type of list that we need to go back and review those and not have it be five or 10 years later where it's going to be three times what the cost is today? Right. I think you're right. It remains an identified need. Okay. But there is no funding for it. I guess the thing is you you just gave me the right term. It's an identified need. It's been identified. We need it. We know we need it. It just can't fall through the cracks. At the committee meeting, I did bring up the parking lot using some funds towards it. Um, and a couple people suggested maybe working with the schools because they use that a lot. And then with the completion of the field that's right there, they'll be using like the other side, too. So, if the city and the schools could maybe get

together on that, that might help. It's going to be a costly project to reserve redo that whole parking lot. Yeah, it's a big parking lot. And to be honest, we I'm thinking that 300,000 is a little light. If you remember, and we did an environmental review for HUD for that grant, we cannot tear up the grounds because we didn't have time to do the archaeological portion of the environmental study. So, we have to get through this. So, honestly, that's why it's not even in the conversation right now. We can't do it. It would jeopardize our HUD money. All right. So, the next page is another look at kind of the same thing. This is the active project scope areas, and it's just demonstrating that these again are those 12 scope areas. Um this is this is actually what I have to turn into the county when we do reimbursement. So the column C is showing the budget budgeted amount. Column D is showing how much we have to date used of that budget. Then column E would be the new spending. And then you start to see the percentage of that. So how much of the budget have we used? What's left? And that's what column H is showing us like what's left in each of those scope areas. And the lines going through it complete. The lines going through it represent those are complete. Okay. Or um except for somebody made a mistake on the ADA restroom updates. No, that's that's under the column that says completed work. It says 100%. Yes. And there's not a line through it like the rest of them. So, somebody in my eyes looking at this, somebody made a

mistake. So, let me try to explain it. So, the budget there Yeah. is $25,000. We've spent 2,300 but we have 22,000 um like uh already committed to. So this is so that is 100% because if you remember all we're spending in the ADA is the um engineering services because we couldn't cover those in the CDBG. They only covered construction. So, our design work, engineering is in there. And then there's additional 12,500 that is coming from ARPA to supplement the second set of bathrooms that council approved to finish out the other CDBG money. So, I know it's really confusing. There was two, but you see what But you but you see what I'm saying? You're not being consistent with the way this form is laid out. You're not being consistent with the way the form is laid out. I'm trying to show that that's an active area. So there's stuff in progress. It hasn't been zeroed out yet. Well, then it shouldn't be 100% then. Well, because form is try to show you where we are. So, so yeah, if you don't like that, I'm sorry. I'm trying to highlight what is active and what the committee is working on. So, the ADA bathrooms is something the committee worked on because we had to combine two grants to get the second set done, but we are essentially done construction. Yeah. You're done with the the bid and you you got a contractor in there and everything, right? And and we know what No, I get I get what you're saying, but if you're going to put out a spreadsheet like that, at least be Whoever put that spreadsheet out did a great job. But the thing is they need to be consistent in the listings. Well, to me it is. So, I I hear you. It's not clear to you. So, I apologize for that. Um, this is it's

very complicated all of these. I spend a lot of time because we don't have any grant support. So, just be clear on that. It is just me working on this. So, I'm doing the best I can. So, the next slide is again identifying those active project scope areas. So, it's just listing them without all the numbers. And this is what the committee is discussing, working on. So, the gymnasium, auditorium, the ADA restroom that we just talked about, uh the imagination station because that's not fully complete. We have some outstanding items. Um our community kitchen, security features, completion of activity rooms, and then contingencies. So, those are the areas that we're continuing to work in um as we finalize and uh move forward to complete the project. Any questions on that? [Applause] So the next slide is a recap. The committee first meeting was March 19th and right away there were two identified project scope priorities along with some additional whistems. So community kitchen and gymnasium were identified as the most important uh priorities to figure out what were they going to cost and therefore what would be left for the other items. Um, at the time we also were um or the committee also became I don't even know how to say this. So we weren't allowed to spend anything any amount of the grant without committee um support. So, normal purchasing procedures, you know, up to $4,000 can be spent or, you know, once once it's 10,000, it always goes to council, but under 10,000, the city manager can sign off. But, so that's what happened at the committee. U So, now no spending allowed without committee support. What we didn't do was

clarify what exactly that was. Um, so that's kind of come up. What does it mean to have support? We haven't been voting. Um, so that's something that we have to figure out in that committee or if you guys have ideas. So the next slide is going to update to what occurred in April. So you're looking at a map and I highlighted the areas that um went to went to city council in midappril for approval. Oh no. So that was to move ahead with the community kitchen to move ahead removing the stage. The exit signs are a code thing in a whole series of rooms uh to clean up the science lab room and do some ceiling repairs. So that's what occurred in April. Um the other things that started happening at that time were the main entrance bathrooms. So again, ARPA funded the architectural services which we just looked at in the spreadsheet. Um whereas the construction is funded by CDBG. So that's the the April progress that we saw. So the next slide um is also I'm going to mention some of the other spending. So there were invoices related to already approved council items that have still come in. In other words, the the roof various invoices have come in, you know, over winter for that. Um the ADA restroom consultant fees. We had the HVAC consultant work again that went to council, but we're continuously paying on them. And so that's why you see the delays and um then we can do a $350,000 reimbursement because these are all those encumbered costs that take time. Um there was a purchase of table linens for the auditorium uh tables. Uh most recently we purchased five patio picnic

tables and then there was some relocation of audio box wires in the gymnasium and moving of the time clock in the community kitchen. So this is pretty much a comprehensive recap of what has been spent in the grant. Any questions on that? Then the next page gives us the May progress. So, and I tried to, you know, it's really confusing looking at all this, but what we see in yellow are all those April projects. Those are in progress. So, in May, we learned about a rental possibility that would provide a pretty good chunk of um income to the Radcliffe operation. And I marked that in the orange kind of uh angled stripes. So that's our imagination station, the large cardio room, meeting room one, and then craft room two or senior fitness are question marks. And I'll talk about that in a moment, but this is an area designated for a renter potentially in the fall. So, so now we're learning about this. Um at the same time um we are moving ahead to complete the other set of bathrooms to try to utilize the remaining funds of CDBG and we have to borrow or not borrow but use that 125 amount from um ARPA. Um the laundry room that's because the community kitchen is where housed our two washer and dryers. Um, but through the process of designing that kitchen space, we had to find a new place for the washer and dryer. So, those moved down next to what was it was labeled as teaching kitchen, but it was the old science lab. So, that's sort of drawn out in yellow. Um, the computer

lab, all the computers have been removed. Actually, there might be I think three or four in there, but that was uh designated as a potential cardio room uh build because it's a nice size and we're if we lose the large cardio room, there was concern about where to put all those classes. Um, the art room two is the small room that's unfinished that has a lot of damage from the water that sits between the the bathrooms I marked in orange and that large cardio room. So, this is a space where originally it was going to go to a renter and then after our last meeting it came up, well, maybe we move some things around. Maybe the renter would like the senior fitness room. Maybe we move senior fitness over there and expand it. So these are some of the happenings um in May and then at council only three things passed. So there's a lot of questioning of what our process is uh and what's happening. So it's a very complicated thing to keep everybody up to speed on because just looking at this um you know can get confusing. Any questions that you guys have? So really what happened the last several meetings there's a lot of discussions happening in our committee meeting right there's the loss of some valuable parks and recreation spaces. So we're talking about cardio room the meeting room um potentially our craft room. So, we're talking about how that impacts parks, talking about how to centralize parks and recreation in the building to optimize rental space, to optimize income to help um parks and wreck sustain. Um there's discussion of, you know, one of the other wish list items

was fitness room expansion. So, moving it to a bigger room and adding free weights. That's been uh discussed at length in our committee as well. So, where would that go? The committees looked at several different options. The last one at the last meeting talked about moving senior fitness from where it is now, expanding it uh to combine craft room one and craft room two. That would displace craft room, the big craft room, and the only room available was the gift shop, which was the old cafe. So, that's about half the size. Um, you know, so that's what you're looking at here. Some of these red marks is like the moving, you know, and again, this is all discussion because none of this um is 100%. The the cardio room, again, that did not pass at council. Um, so I'm not sure, you know, if that's just not desired. I don't really know. The thrift shop is being envisioned down where the teaching kitchen was. Um, so this is just trying to represent some of the changes. And then within all this, we're still trying to determine the budget for the key areas, the kitchen and the gymnasium, right? And then there's some operational wish list items that I'm always bringing forward. Nobody really likes them because they're operational uh or thinking about long-term maintenance or things that I'm concerned about knowing that our operating budget has been cut in half. So, we don't even have like like materials and supplies. So, you know, there's a lot of conflicting um ideas at this point. You know, the remaining amount is 548,000, you know, with kind of where we are. So if we start um let's go into the

gymnasium topic. The next slide. This is this is our best estimate of the cost. Uh we know what the drop down curtains are. We know the basketball hoops. We don't know for sure the gym lighting, the wall padding, the gym fans, the tech panels um and the gym floor. So we are working to get pricing on that because uh that's important. I mean, how we um you know, we want to be able to complete these things. So, we're trying to work on those things. But, um now the gym floor, would you take out the flooring that's in there? Now, I think what we've talked about is keeping the blue floor and just adding floor and making it uh seam seamless. I think our contractor's got a lot of great ideas and just adding new in the kind of the stage stage area. Okay. like our auxiliary gym or the third and the idea is to have two dividers so we have almost three equal spaces so we can dodgeball, we could do um you know the F FRC activities and we could have drop in basketball all at the same time you know with dividers. So that's the the goal estimate for basketball hoops 30 grand. So is that all the way around? That would be for four hoops that are ceiling mounted that come down and adjust. So, we don't we could put in a full-size court running the length, but that's right now not what we have envisioned because we don't have room for bleachers. So, it's really not something that GCYA was interested in because we we don't really have a gym for like full games, but what we have are more drop in activities. Uh three, you know, three on three or half court, right? You know, so the idea was to run them shortwise, but have like three-point lines and then two sets of those hoops.

So, we think we need around 207 to 211,000. The big ticket item is the gym floor. I think that was a high-end estimate. We think it'll be less than that because we're not doing the entire floor, but we're leaving it there because there's there's other things too that are coming up like the HBAC units. We, you know, we took the stage down and there's a a large uh panel that's now floating, you know, like 10 ft up the wall. So, we have to have that, you know, we have to pay to move that down so that it meets code, you know, things like that that are occurring that we have to have some room for so that uh we don't run out of money. And um I know to put that office out too in the Yes. And the small um audio box. Yes. That was removed with the stage. Question. What What is a gym tech panel? They moved. They took that out. Um, so it's nice and open. I think those is that a scoreboard? Oh. Oh, wait. No, I think it's something. It's the technology. Uh, I'm trying to think. I mean, we don't see a scoreboard, but that doesn't mean that we need one. I just wonder if if if you don't I don't recall right now you know for the then why have a scoreboard? I don't I don't think it's a scoreboard but I did I assumed it might be I can't remember the wall that I don't know it's not the wall padding so I'm not sure. I will find out because do you remember Kate? I don't but John is I'm waiting to see what he comes up with here. He's googling it. Yeah, I don't know. I will um related to the sound we were talking because they have um you know boxes that hang out kind of

up high on a platform. So, we were talking about getting rid of those. So, maybe it's something in relation to that. Yeah, there's really nothing out there for uh whoever. I'll look into that and find out what but with that verbiage. Uh God love him. It has really made that gym a lot bigger by taking that stage out. That stage out. Yeah. So, okay. So, if we sort of set aside that amount of money, so if we remember that 548,000, well, now we're kind of subtracting 207. And then the next slide is our community kitchen. So, what we have budgeted right now is about 90,000. Uh, we know the appliances are around 25,000. Um, it doesn't include a dishwasher, prep sink, some other like smaller things. Uh, we know there's going to be some kitchen small wares, all the uh things needed for cooking or teaching. Um, also in here are two countertop ovens that are really for the concession but have never been purchased. Um, and then miscellaneous costs would be like decor, whether there's been discussion of doing a mural in there, an awning to make it cute, you know, stools, the food programing supplies. So, just miscellaneous things. So, again, we don't have a um an exact price of what all this will be. I'm still sort of waiting on the big ticket appliances to see those come through. um you know so but we I think 90,000 is ample for those items. It's going to What are you giggling at? So in other words, we're canning the teaching kitchen, right? No, we're just calling it community kitchen because somebody brought up a good point that it's not just for teaching. It should be available for groups and uh you know rental parties like if they're hosting an event. So community kitchen is the teaching kitchen but rebranded. I guess. And if there's a party, they

could use it to heat up stuff that they bring in and and things like that. Some place to put salads together. Right. Right. And and if you've been in Radcliffe, you've seen a big wall was holed out. Yeah. So there's going to be a window there and that's just to I think show what's going on there and for people to see. Um um when you know appliances this kind of general are you like too sto I mean how how is it? Yes. So we have so one of the um council member Kotus has really dove into this and she's done uh some of the price checking and she's identified I think it's an eight burner stove. We have a um a large fridge unit. Um there's a couple of vents I think. I I actually haven't seen it. So that's why I don't know it that well, but it's yeah, commercial stuff and I think like the stacking ovens, you know. So the idea is all of that is going to be vented uh or put near the exterior of that room so that the venting can go right out into the what's the staff parking lot because certain equipment requires really massive vent ventilation that can be literally hundreds of thousands of dollars. So, this is kind of a mix of a uh home kitchen, but like a higher quality so that we can license it so people can use it as a catering thing. We could do classes, but it's not going to be a commercial kitchen like uh you know over at Schoolcraft or So, and then there's a big table that's meant to be a it's been scaled down quite a bit because originally it was going to be six stations, right? Yes. Okay. Yep. So now it's more of a large island with some maybe mobile carts that can be rolled in um and utilizing the features that were already there. This

was the old original kitchen of the school and there was like a hand sink, a tric sink, like the dishwashing sink. Um you know, all of the oven and stuff, those were all torn out. Um but yeah, it's it's a a lower um vision. I don't want to say just a different vision and a compromise, right? Yeah. A compromise to to still have a functional kitchen that we can do food programming. Yeah. Um and that groups can use. Okay. So that's the community kitchen. So that's 90,000. So if you take our gymnasium or kitchen, next slide. So now we've got 250,000 that we're trying to figure out how to spend. and some of the items being discussed and considered the fitness room expansion as I mentioned where to put it what are the goals of that um the security items which not everybody's interested in um and then those wish list and operational wants so and I think I might have messed up your packets the next page or go to the next slide I think I got them out of order so if you if you go down a couple pages to the fitness room expansion we'll start with that one So again, this is from an interest to enlarge and move to a different room. Um potentially to craft room one and two, but then that would mean moving the craft room to the old cafe, you know. So, uh it is a considerable downsize to the craft room. Um you know, but craft classes aren't typically huge, but she'll have up to 15 or 20 in some of the classes. And so it would be pretty tight. We'd have to add plumbing into the gift shop, bring in a lot of cabinets, and usually if you think about art art classes, it's all about storage and supplies. And so the current room she has is like wallto-wall of countertops. So that would be lost.

And so so trying to figure out how would that impact programming um you know is a big thing. It would create a connected space to expand um the current fitness room. We know that the fitness room has been really successful. Um, you know, again, there's interest in adding more free weights. So, the one thing too we have to check on is really making sure that our grant will cover this because the my last meeting with them, they were very um stern and that if you change any project scopes, it will not be funded. So, how we how this would fit into those original project scopes is something that would I would have to really um get a better answer on before we started on that because I don't want to see us do that and then um find out you don't get reimbured. Find out we don't get reimbured. And the thing that's tricky about this is if you remember the original fitness room was supposed to be CDBG and we worked with this current grant committee to move our project from the fitness room to what is now the bathroom project. So in other words, our grant coordinators have walked our building and they know our grant projects. So it makes me a little nervous to start switching them around. You know, the way that I tried to to do it was list off all the possible things that I knew about in the beginning. So, if you see the grant uh pages and updates I sent them, it was like the finish uh completion of rooms. It was uh the patio, the um courtyards, the cardio room too because we had known about that interest. So, there's a lot of things named, but there isn't anything on a fitness room yet. Can we roll it into the gymnasium? You know, those are things that we'd have to really feel confident in. So, that's one of my

worries there. Um, but so right now that was kind of the last meeting is what are we going to do with that? And it sounds like the renter would be willing to switch those rooms. So, that's not an obstacle. It's just I think more the funding and um the logistics and then what is it going to cost to do all that work? So, our contractor is going to have a quote for us, I think this week, on what that cost is to do that. Um, any questions on that? I wasn't at um last Wednesday's meeting when you guys discussed this, so I I missed it. Uh, but I am very hesitant to to like we already put so much money in to finish that craft room. I feel like it's one of the only programs that runs consistently. So, it's hard for me to like the flooring in there or the cabinets. Like, we spent a lot of money and it's one of the only successful things. So, I would rather find a different room. Is that the one right when you walk into the right? Yeah, I'll share that at the at the Yeah. And I mean, you know, I did meet with the art teacher and obviously she was pretty disappointed to hear about that potential plan. Um, she does run classes from youth through seniors and it is one of our more successful programs. I mean, she's really fantastic. Um, you know, but and this is where we have to figure out how are these decisions being made because I think ultimately council's going to be deciding these um you know, but you said fitness uh is doing good. The fitness center you said is doing good. Yep. Yeah. Well, wouldn't the crafts fall more under parks and wreck? Yeah, it does. So why wouldn't parks and

recck be able to make the decision and not council? What do they need us for if they're going to make our decisions? Because it's going to cost money. They should trust us. Yeah. Well, I don't I don't think there's a lot of trust. So, I mean, but these are the conversations that we're having and I think this is where we're kind of getting stuck because we don't have a mechanism for uh informing the rest of council. And then I mean ultimately council does set the direction and then I'm told what to do and that's how government works, you know. Um I I will say the committee it's great. It has a few of us, a few of council members. Um I know one of the questions was on bridging that gap of information. Um because it is an informal meeting, right? There's no minutes, there's no agenda, there's I mean how what about taking votes on different things? Is that with it being an informal meeting, is that allowed? Um like you said with the spending, are you guys trying to figure that out or um I guess how is the information getting to council? I mean this presentation is great, right? Uh obviously they could view this or are you making it available to them just so the others that aren't part of that committee can see? Yeah, I mean I think from the last council meeting it was clear that some of the council feels in the dark. Um, I always I always hate, you know, being accused of not being transparent because that's what we're trying to do. But I think when we formed the committee, it wasn't clear. How are we reporting back? How are we sharing this? And so just because this group is informed, it doesn't mean everybody is. And so that's why I decided, well, one, I need to update you all, but I'm going to share this with council as well. And aren't there three council members on the committee? Yes. Yeah. because I do think it's as we get to the end there's going to have to be a direction given um because you know and I was thinking the same thing like maybe we have a vote because when I left the meeting I

thought we reviewed things and this was good and then find out well no that's not the case so it's you know um not as successful when we're not on the same page and I think we need a better way to do that. Yeah, I think everybody agrees that the money has to be spent before the deadline, right? Or we lose it. So, yeah. Yeah. What to spend it on. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. That's exactly it. So, so that's that topic. Then the next item is the security. And so, again, these aren't like original project scope areas that were approved um that were set in motion before I came on. Um, a lot of money has been invested into our security system. We have a lot of cameras. I should know how many. It's a lot. Um, we started the door fobbing to help with keys and access. There are 300 and no, I'm sorry, 430 doors in Radcliffe. Um, we started fobbing a lot of the doors um since when did we start? I think since January. Um, and now we can see because I get a weekly report of how many people are accessing and you can see who at what time. Um, so remember we have not just staff, we have renters, we have cleaners, and we have contractors all accessing the building at different times in different ways. And it really is, it's not just because we're all lazy. We don't want to use a key. Uh, for us, it's a way to maintain security and know who's coming and going. Um, we know when the grant's gone, there's not going to be any more money to do these sort of things. It costs around $3,000 a door to get it set up for the FOB. Um, there's a handful of doors that are left that we were hoping to do. Um, and the reasoning I am Am I on the right screen? Yeah.

Um, you know, we did start outlining a key and access policy because when I started over at Radcliffe, I really didn't know who had keys. there wasn't a really um there wasn't a log of who'd been issued exterior keys or interior keys. Um and so not knowing that uh and knowing how much things we have in our building um just does not seem like a good way to manage. So we've had to re key. I think they've recked several times the exteriors. Uh we're going to do it one more time in the summer. Um, now that we've moved, we've moved ultimately to all fobbing for the exterior access. So, meaning if you're coming from the outside, you have to fob in. Um, the interior doors, there's just too many to do all 400 doors, right? There's closets, a copier room. Um, so we've tried to identify the rooms that have the most activity. Um, or help us monitor who's coming and going. So, um, and as you can imagine, if anyone here has been responsible for a building with 430 doors and managing keys, it is a huge staff thing to manage. Who's getting the keys, making copies, how many times Head Start staff have new staff in, they need access. We have staff from TAB. We're going to have new renters coming, um, new cleaners, our staff. So, it's a lot of time spent um making issuing and tracking access. Um we've seen we have around 6,000 swipes a month. So, that's how many people are using and that's that report that I I can see how many it's about 1500 accesses each week. Um and so we've looked at completing the missing rooms uh to set the future up for reducing the amount of staff time to manage keys

essentially. Um so the next page is the uh and these are these are the pricing. Um you know part of this project you know we have some in-house expertise from our communications department who has taken on like project management and there's multiple vendors uh to come in and to do the install and then the wiring and it actually is a really affordable way to do it. Um but this is just sort of the price you can see outlined. There's an alarm system that is partially been installed but not completed. Um, and to be honest, I'm not that passionate about that because I feel like the door fobbing is a great uh security feature for us. Um, there's some other items on here like if we were to do this comprehensive completion of this step, it's like 45,000. Um, and I know, you know, some members of the committee are just not supportive of this. So, this is again where we're kind of butting heads. Um, you know, this isn't important to everybody. So, you know, again, I'm not sure the best way to uh make these decisions of what we spend the money on, but that's one that's been discussed. So, the next slide. Then the remaining are the wish list items. Um, you know, and so many so many of these have been debated and removed or they're left and some of them we don't have exact pricing. Um, but again, I know when the grant money is gone, uh we're not going to have money to uh add our entrance signage or uh you know, more picnic tables to the patio or the courtyard. Uh a printer for badges, that's you know, that's $7,000, but you see how many badges we have, how many uh access points. Um you know, trying to invest into our our camp room. Uh there's windows that don't open in our

offices that we would really like to have um access to because there's problems with temperature control. So we've got AC going and we got heaters going and it's Which one is the teen camp room? Um what room? Yeah, the adult game room. Oh, okay. Because we've lost the first two options we were thinking for summer, but in the summer we're going to convert that to the camp room. um and probably cover the billiard tables, but um you know, we'd like to add another ping pong table and just some other things for the kids. Um we know we need to complete the exterior play area that Head Start uh was moved. If you remember, they had one of the interior courtyards. This is going to be one that the renters are taking and we ripped out their equipment but didn't install it correctly. There's a couple of things. the fencing was doesn't meet code for them for their licensing. So, we need to repair those things for them because we did them. Um, exterior wayfinding. This is probably the most irritating thing for people coming to visit us for the first time. They always end up um Google Maps will take you to the Head Start entrance and then you can't get in there and then they walk in another door and then they come around. just people get very disoriented from the outside because there's nothing labeled about what's where and part of it's because we haven't figured everything out yet. But I definitely hope we have some money for wayfinding a shed for garden that's pulled off because we're hoping that it gets donated by Home Depot. Um some entry rugs we would like uh at the very front. the one that we had there, a really large one, got damaged during the construction time. Um, recycling bin stations would like to provide three or four recycling stations

inside that look nice. There's these walk-off carpet things that are being requested. Maybe some murals and art. Um, so again, these are wishlist items. Um, you know, if if we get to where we can buy some of these things. So, you're saying a contractor the rug got tore up because of contracting? No, it you are. I'm telling you to go to the contractor and tell them to pay for the damn rug or we'll take it off their bill because it got folded up and put into storage and in storage it got uh destroyed. So, and then when we rolled it out, it was so lumpy and it was just a huge tripping hazard. And so, we tried to wet it. I mean, we tried a few things and then we just took it to the dumpster. So, are you going to get new front doors? No, the doors got nixed again for the entrance. Yeah. So, that was one of my wish list items, too. Does that handicap button work sometimes? Okay. I seen somebody push it the other day and it didn't open and I thought, yeah, we've had a lot of issues with the automatic door closers and then the button will often not work. So again, for me operating that building, like it'd be really nice to have, you know, a functioning, dependable, even just one or at least fixing it if it's like a wiring issue or Yeah. Yeah. Do we have any electrical people in our Well, the doors are open DPW, but they're open. Yeah. I never use um Yes. Could they look at the door? Oh, they do. I mean, that's what happens. It breaks. Then we put in a service request, they come out, they fix it, it works, it breaks, they come out. I mean, that's what we do. It's just old, you know. So, so those I mean, that's a loose 88,000, right? But whether those got support or not is again the process that we don't have figured out. So, that really is the end of my

presentation. That's the best summary I can give to you. I think if you have ideas for how you think we should make decisions to finish this out or what are priorities to you, I'm happy to incorporate that into my next presentation on to the public hearing. You want to say nothing about that? Any question out there? Okay. Well, hang on. Uh going back to this. Wait, wait, wait, wait. I think I I think she's still discussing. Oh, go ahead. I appreciate this presentation. I think you guys are Parks and Rex. You know, we're all on here cuz we're heavily involved with Parks and Rex. So, I'm I'm glad that you guys can get an update. And I I'm curious to hear all your opinions. I've been um not happy with the amount of renting the building that is um going on and continuing to be on the horizon. I was really bummed about imagination station. So I've been very vocal about that in our subcommittee meetings. But yeah, I think we discuss and then ultimately higherups also have their say. So I want to hear, you know, what you guys think about Radcliffe, especially, you know, I know you're there a lot. I'm a lot of construction going on. I like the gym what they're doing with the gym. You can't really see it because they've got plastic up where they tore the stage down. Got the vis queen up. It's a lot a lot bigger and uh without the stage. Without the stage. Yes. It looks like it's really going to make it a more viable room to use. Hopefully the flooring can be seamless, you know. Yeah. Or the net. I I like the net idea too, dividing it. But I agree there. That uh craft room that that gets a lot of

use. I see kids in there all the time. It was just a lot of money that was already spent on it, too. But I I would like to see fitness, you know, have a a bigger space also. I think I want to see parks and racks offer it all. But they say that they you're getting more people using the fitness center, right? So maybe it should be a little bigger. We can make a little more. They just opened it up to adults. So I I think you know maybe in the fall we can let the community I don't know how Yeah. I don't know how many people are in it in the in the evening because I go during the day. So And you say there's a lot in the day, right? In the day there can be like eight 10 people in there at once sometimes. Well, we don't have to wait till fall. We can put it on the website that it's open to adults, right? Or is there something out there? I mean we got to market hours three weeks mean we're only open 9 to2. So, that's going to be the biggest. They said adults are only allowed to use it in the evenings, but now we're Oh, we're only going to be open from 9 to 2, but the seniors can use it. The seniors can use it at night when it's not open. Adults, you mean? No, seniors. Cuz they're adults, too. Yeah. No one can use it. No one can use it at night. Be closed at night, right? Well, that that's a that's a real good thing. You know, we can use it at night, but it's not going to be open then. Okay. Right. So somebody somebody's got to answer that one. So it's like it's something that needs to go back to city council and go look you told the seniors and the adults they could use it at night but we have no night staffing. How are we going to do that now and put it back on them? They're the ones who kabashed it for night. So whoever kabashed it, put it back on them. If you need me to go, you need me to text Mark, I'll text Mark. Well, I don't have a problem. I mean it's a budget crisis issue, right? So, but that's exactly right. When we don't have staff to open the rooms, then

it's not available. And I think that the intent is to uh increase revenue so that we can have staffing, you know, like our plan is to open up in September back to more traditional hours, but not Saturday night, not Sunday. So that's always going to be a limit to the gym is we're just not going to have the type of hours that everybody might be looking for, you know, but Okay. Wait now. So you want to take the craft rooms where they're at and replace put a fitness room in there. That is one of the ideas. Yeah. Why? Why? I mean, since you said that it's kind of already got all the storage and it's Yeah, cuz there's no there's no rooms even like this large cardio room when the renter takes it. We like as a subcommittee, we were like, we need a cardio room, right? That is used a lot. So, we're like scrambling to find other rooms to continue to offer the community what is already while while and trust me, we've looked at a lot of rooms. We've looked at the admin offices. That's this the where my old office was where we've where we decorated the tree right over there. Um you know, but it's that's a weird space. Yeah. Right. We've run out of room. We are run I mean that's sad. I mean the only free space is right now the the old cafe. Um but it's you know I don't know that it's great for the craft room. There are two classrooms in the 600 hall that are rented sometimes, but they're in they're in a weird corner that only like Head Start goes. So, yeah, right. When she says there is one room, there is literally one room

that is empty. I mean, we to like we could do the old the original teaching kitchen, but that is designated for thrift store, thrift shop, you know, but that would have been a great gym space. That's a nice big Well, I'm just trying to think in my head. What is the lounge? I mean, it it so that lounge space is that is one of the most popular rental spaces like groups during the day or even night. So, it's got all the square tables and the in there and it connects to the auditorium. So, like birthday parties and the parents night out they use. So, it's a it's a pretty busy programming. People use it during the day, too. I've seen Yeah, we have a couple of groups. A group that is uh hearing hearing impaired. The Metro Detroit. Yeah, they they use that that during the day and it's full of people at that time. So, how often does the F FRC have a meeting? Yeah, we can't really touch that space. N this room. I see them use all the storage room isn't open the FRC. We can't touch it because it's from grant money or whatever or what what what's what's what's I need to know why we can't touch it because they do so they're a grant program. They're under the parks and wreck umbrella but um and you know I think it's just the history of it but you know their funds they help support the city they support the police officers. So they have other ways that they really contribute to the city. No, but I'm saying it says meeting rooms. So you can't tell me they're meeting five days a week, 40 hours a week. They have No, but I will say they I mean they run so they do a lot of groups and things, but they have I mean they have their own secure spaces and so

they can't do like an F FRC activity meeting room and just have one room instead of two. I don't think I mean they have five full-time staff over there and then we have two in the whole entire you know what I mean like I think one room is used I see um like parents and kids come in and then the other room is when they run like kid programming I think yeah they just have a lot of evening programs we're we're not going to be able to get in there and use that space I can just tell that's not referrals from the police department have we asked They're trying to gain more space. Literally. Yeah. And they've been around for a long time. Yeah. So, I don't see that as And they're expanding and they're expanding into other cities. So, I don't you know, they don't we don't gain rent from them, but they do help the city in other ways. And it's a great service that's offered that we're at Cliff. I could I see the coyotes are gone from the courtyard. Yeah, they did not work. They left. So the coyotes No, they did not work. But all right. Well, if you have any other thoughts, let me know. Um, walk through the That's what's the update. Walk through the place and you'll see all the stuff that's going on. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, a lot's going on. Um, anything else about Redcliffe? Nice presentation. I appreciate you informing everyone. Thank you.

Ready to move on? Yep. moving on public hearing. Anything? Maybe since there was a break, you thought of something. Nope. Okay. Public comment. Okay. No public comment. Moving on. Items for consideration. Bold business. All right. I passed out a draft flyer of our three work days. So, I feel like we've been talking about this for several meetings and a couple things happened. We had to push back the dates. Um, so now we're looking at a Manor Park cleanup Tuesday, June 17th from 4 to 6:00 p.m. And this is going to be a lot of the wood chips in the playground. uh Mhler Park cleanup Sunday, June 22nd from 1 to 3:00 p.m. And that would also be playground stuff, but potentially brush cutting if there's other things depending on how many people we get. And then Kowanis park cleanup uh in July from 10 to 12. And I've uh Kowanas has been as a group been working on some improvements they want to make. So, I've been kind of touching base with them and we have a meeting gosh I think Friday to go over uh because I'd reached out to see if they wanted to partner with us um you know to focus again on the wood chips because I believe it's quite weedy and you know all of our wood chip surfacing is a little bit low for compliance. So, so those are the new dates. Um, I apologize for having to change them, but if if they work for us and I don't know if um you know if one of these are your parks is your park like you're the park. Mhler is mine and it's better for me on the 22nd. That is better. Okay, good. Yeah, because it was on the first. It was the first and then there was like a

tournament happening and then we didn't really promote it. So, it all kind of worked out like not to do it. Um, but but we haven't promoted them yet, so we need to get it out. We can put the signs in the park. Uh, try to get some volunteers signed up. Did you tell the soccer club about Manor and then GCY? Yes, I talked briefly to one of their persons. Um, but what I said is we're hoping to finalize the workday at this meeting and then I'm going to reach out tomorrow and make sure they have flyers because we have we also have individual flyers for each park, but what you're looking at is all three of them. um I'll go to all of them. I don't care. So if I can walk to and again we're just trying them on different days to try to appeal to different people and um so yeah like that different times and days. Yeah. So so any does those sound good? Yep. Who's our manor park? Actually I know these things. I don't have to ask. [Music] Yep. Jen. So, I better check with her. Mohler, Robert. And then Yeah, you're Quanis. And you said that date was okay for you. Yeah. Okay. Far enough away where Yeah. I mean, it is far away and it might be hot. That's why the morning I think is good, you know, but it their playscape needs a lot of work. Yeah. For the wood chips and stuff. Yeah. So, so if those sound good, we can find I guess I should check with Jen on Manor, but actually that's the same date as it was before. So, are you having more wood chips delivered? Yeah. So, I'm going to set up the wood chips uh have them delivered. We'll have some of our park staff. Should we make a motion to approve the workday? Yeah. Work days. Okay. I need a motion to approve the

park cleanup days. I make a motion to approve the park cleanup days. I'll second. All in favor? I 6. Next. Mural. All right. So, you guys had some great feedback at the last meeting and I went back. I did uh you should have a flyer in front of you. Um, I did talk to the artist. He is able to do the community paint so that people can volunteer and participate in the mural. And then you did have a request to go with this version but with the other logo. So he's going to do that. He just didn't sketch it out for me. So that's why it's not on the flyer, but um, so we're going to do that. We did pick the dates. He's going to be doing prep work next week. And then the painting will be Friday, June 6th. Two shifts, 4 to 6 and 6 to 8:00 pm. Just a dumb question that I didn't think about the last time. I'm assuming that this paint is going to be like a nod skid or it's going to have sand in it cuz I'm assuming that when this gets wet, Yes. it's going to be slippery. If it's paint, yeah, I don't know. Well, I can ask you to put sand in or texture. Like sometimes the outdoor stuff if you buy floor paint, it sometimes is tacky. So, I'll confirm with him. What's Yeah, that'd be a good idea. I've sold enough paint. Trust me. Yeah. Yeah, I know. You don't want like a slippery trust me. I was wondering about a sealant if you're going to I don't think we are. So, it you know. Yeah. You know, I've done a lot of murals and there's a lot of different theories about coatings on them, but honestly, in my experience, the best um and are you thinking for deterren like No, for graffiti or just foot traffic or just foot traffic to scuff it up. Okay.

Um yeah, I'll ask him about that because I haven't done We did Well, we did a basketball court once. So, let me go back and look and see what uh we did for a bottom. Ask him how often this should be touched up. Does he know how long the paint lasts? Do we have any idea that if we paint this, are we going to be touching it up every year or is this going to be something that two or three years down the road that we'll touch it up? Well, I do think this is a short-term beautifification fix because, you know, ideally, uh, we come into huge amounts of money and we're able to reinvest and update the bathroom because it's really an unattractive bathroom style and dated. So, this is a relatively inexpensive way to brighten it and show that it's being cared for. Um, sometimes you can get a tag on it. You know, someone might do that if you repair it quickly. That usually deters graffiti. And really, this is a way to deter graffiti is to have murals. Um, the the floor is probably most most likely to either get faded or um, you know, be worn. So maybe we have to do it in a year or two years, but I think we just cross that when you know bridge when we get to it. I'm assuming we'll keep like extra paint at the ice arena. Yeah. Well, we'll have all the paint that's left over. So we'll keep it for touchups if we do get a tag. Um I've talked to the artists about coming out as an hourly rate to if there's anything he has to do to fix it. But um can I ask um is part of the prep work to do like that solid aqua base that we see there? You know, like the No, the prep work that he's going to do is like power washing and repairing. There's a couple of um things on the wall that he's going to try to smooth out and whatnot. But no, but I think that's where volunteers painting. Do are they

going to do the You got the cement floor. Are you going to do that first and then do the background? You cannot. She said it's paint by numbers. Paint by number. You move your way out, right? Well, I mean, if it's paint by numbers, you just wouldn't paint. You'd paint up to that, but that's going to be But this question about the base, especially the walking part. I'll ask him that because we he's got some questions for me. I got to follow up with him. But and he's so he's done a lot of murals, but he hasn't done the community paint style. So, it'll be a little different. So, that just means he's got to outline it and mark. Is it any less money to do it that way? No. Okay. No. Well, then no, but it's like a way for people to contribute and it's really fun and we've already got five people signed up, you know. So, if you're interested, you know, please share it and there's limited spots. We got a wind wedding that I up north that weekend and I know I can't make it. Yeah. And fingers crossed it's good weather because if it rains, we won't be doing it that day. I bring the bride down here and do some painting. Yeah. But our hope is to get it done before the wedding party though. Yeah. We're trying to get it done before the music in the park event that month. But you know the shel the shelters are rented I think every Saturday of the whole summer, right? Yeah. So we had that's why we had to do a Friday night because they're just rented and you know and we we can't be painting when people are trying to use you know the bathroom. Do you have any more of these flyers that I could possibly, you know, staple up in the park that? For sure. I can I can I don't have them with me. Okay. Well, except the ones I passed out there. So, you can grab those, too. You can have the Radcliffe Center. She can have that one. Can you have mine? She can. There you go. Yeah, sure. Yeah, if you take those. Yeah. I mean, I can email it to you, but if you just want to I have a the I work with a ton of artistic people. Okay. at my work and some of

them live in the area and maybe they'd be interested. Yeah. Yeah. Yes, sir. Yeah, for sure. Thank you. And there's a limited amount of spots, so tell them to hurry up if they're interested. But that's all I have on that unless you all had any more. We did make it 15 years and older though. And that's just experience. Probably a good idea. Yeah. No, that's a good idea. Little kids like to paint, but it's got to be a different, you know, if you The other thing would be is if you got like one of those envelopes, the plastic ones, put it in there, staple it on the bottom and turn it upside down. That way, if it does rain, you know what I'm saying? If you staple it, the rain can run into it. So, yeah, just or tape the bottom of it. Tape tape the bottom of it. You know, most people just take a picture of it with their phone, right? Yeah. Yeah. And then obviously Well, I'm just thinking if it's underneath if you're stapling to to a tree and it's raining, I'm thinking if the rain's running down in there, then it'll Okay. New business, huh? New business. Anything? Anybody other business? No comment again. Anybody? report from parks and recck director. I guess uh Erica, you're up again. All right, I passed out the report. Um per usual, you'll see April participation registration numbers. I did want to mention because we're talking about um the fitness room, we are averaging, you know, 487 to 500 people a month. uh or actually that's visits. That's not individual people. I haven't figured out how to run that report yet. But um so that's those are the type of numbers in here. We can see um the other thing

that's been really busy is spaceport um you know 429 visits um in in April. Um then on the back of the first page there's just a few grant updates. I won't go through that because we kind of talked about most of it. Um, yeah, I don't I'm not going to review that. Um, the same with the Radcliffe project update. I feel like we did a pretty thorough update on that. Um, I guess I will say the HVAC contract, that's the HUD money that is uh been a bit tied up with the attorney. We're supposed to have a um a project meeting in the next week or so to start moving forward on that. Um but really everything is uh just working with the committee. So we'll be meet meeting again Wednesday. Um then really a couple of other notes. The ice season has wrapped up. So I know Mike was sad the ice was melting today. Um the ice show was a huge success a few weeks ago in May. Um, so it is time for summer over there and they start shifting staff to to the uh park parks. Are you going to be running programs out of the ice arena this summer at all? Anything? No. No, we're uh not planning to run the AC. Yeah, it's a big expense to save. That's like $30,000. We paid so much for them to run programming there in the summer, but maybe next summer. Maybe next summer. Thanks. Um I do have a tree planting lining up for early June. This was a memorial uh tree. We are going to talk about trees again next month. Um I just didn't get to working on this. It's very busy and you know we've just had a lot of staffing

changes. So uh one day at a time and then just the upcoming activities I wanted to note tomorrow and Thursday we have Douglas coming back for another field trip. the fourth graders. So, we got some fun things planned for them. Uh we do have an art show going on at Radcliffe in the community conference room uh now until June 6th. Um we do have parents night out Friday, June 6. We already talked about the community paint event on June 6. Uh if you've got a child or grandchild in Dance Express, hopefully you have on your calendar June 11th and June 12th for the big recital. always a fantastic show. Um, I also put in here the GCYA is hosting a color run event at Mhler Park on Saturday, June 14th from 3 to 6 PM. So, parks will be there with a table, but there's lots of fun things like a food truck, um, you know, some games, and then of course the color run where you get a t-shirt and they throw color at you at some designated spots. So, that's kind of a fun new event. Uh we do have a spaceport gaming camp running for two weeks. Uh hoping people sign up for it. The first week is June 16th. Um I put in the park cleanup event at Manor Park on June 17th. We also at Radcliffe will have the Cops and Cones event on June 17th in the evening. Uh the Muller Park event on June 22nd. Then we have the regular summer camp, the week of June 23rd to 26. If you remember, we have four weeks of the summer camp, two weeks of the spaceport camp, and then our next meeting in June is on Tuesday, June 24th, four weeks from tonight. So, those are the highlights. If anybody's interested, I

do have the June calendar um which is online and it has links, but I have a paper copy if anyone's interested. But that's all I have. up and cominging event programs. We're all good. Yes, sir. You have anything tonight? Anything for just discussion? Yes, sir. Comments? Commissioners, comments? Yes. Thank you for putting that together, Erica. I think we all agree that parks and wreck, we want, you know, uh, options for our residents and we're, our hands are kind of tied. Everybody's hands are kind of tied right now at Radcliffe and trying to limit I hope some of the contracts uh for these lease leasing members. I hope they're, you know, it's bringing in some revenue and we can find useful rooms to uh do our things in. But um yeah, no thanks. I I think uh yeah, you put together a great presentation. That's it. You're good. Thank you. Yeah, I'm good for tonight. Kate, I'm good. I'm good, too. But Eric, you did a great job presentation. Dennis, nothing. Crowd, anybody? I need a motion to adjurnn. I make a motion to adjurnn. I need a second. I'll second it. All in favor? 6. [Music]