Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

Virginia Planning Commission regular meeting. We appreciate your interest and we encourage public participation in our meeting. Your comments are important to our decision-making process. There will be two opportunities during the meeting for you to address the commission members. The first will come when the chair asks for public comment for items not on the agenda. The second will come if there is a public hearing. When the chair uh opens the public hearing for comment, anyone wishes to address the members of the commission should give um their full name, their last name and first name and full physical address. Comments should be limited to three minutes. Uh roll call. Mr. Austin, present.

Mr. Johnson, absent. Mr. Pennington, present. Mr. Wilson, present. Mr. Thompson, Mr. Schuman present. Mr. and Mr. Sprouls. All right. We we do have a quorum. Um, next order of business is the approval of minutes from August 25, 2025 regular meeting. Are there any additions or corrections to the minutes? If not, is there a motion that the minutes be approved as submitted? I'll make that motion. All right. Is there a second? Second. All right. Any additional discussion? If not, if you would call the role. Mr. Austin. I. Mr. Pennington. Hi. Mr. Wilson.

Hi. And Mr. Schuman. Hi.

Next order of business is um public comment for items not on the agenda. I don't know if anybody signed up. There's anybody here that wants to make comments for items not on the agenda. This would be your opportunity. All right. Next order of business is certificate of appropriateness. Slint Brand Grant Saunders Insurance Applicant Johnson Center Inc. owner Bristol Sign Company Walden LLC representatives certificate of appropriateness for non-elilluminated freestanding signs located at 468 East Main Street, Abington, Virginia 24210. parenthesis parcel 014-6-1 in parenthesis staff report.

So yes, SLMP Brent Saunders Insurance applicant Johnson Center Incorporated owner and Bristol Sign Company Walden LLC representative have requested approval of a certificate appropriateness for a non-illuminated freestanding signage located at 468 East Main Street. Uh the property is within the general business district B2 and the entrance corridor. uh background. Uh parcel014-6-1 is known as the Johnson Center and contains multiple businesses. Again, you've kind of seen within the last couple months different businesses come into here and you've reviewed their signs as well. Um the applicant proposes to remove the existing two Hexus Health non-illuminated single-sided freestanding sign panels from the existing painted white steel Johnson Center tenant sign structure as you can see here. uh and replace them with two 3-fft 1 inch by 9 and 1/2 inch equaling 2.44 square f feet of non-illuminated single-sided painted gray aluminum with blue and green applied vinyl graphics freestanding sign panels. The existing painted white steel Johnson center tenant sign structure will remain unchanged. So here's what the um structure looks like currently. This would also satisfy what we had before as the hexis health. Uh one has to be removed either that freestanding one or this one. Based on their rendering, it looks like the Hexus Health would be removed from this structure. Uh this is the rendering of what the sign panel would look like on there. Um uh based on what the plan commission said before with the Hexus Health Hexus Health sign that we saw, uh staff made a recommendation to maintain a unified design. The aluminum sign panel should be painted white instead of gray to match the other sign panels attached to the existing painted white steel Johnson center tennis structure. So that was based on when you talked to Hex's health and when they were going uh based on that kind of uniform. Everybody else had a white background. So the aluminum was

painted white and then they had whatever colors their logo were. So just kind of seeing the trends that were happening and so that's one of our staff recommendations. Uh the applicant is here if you would like any questions if they have any or if they want to add anything more than happy to. If not you're welcome to make a comment if you wish to. If not okay are there questions? Uh I have a question. Is the gray like some advantage like graphically or doesn't matter if it's white or gray?

It's just part of their logo. Okay. Additional questions. Is the replacement sign the exact same size as the current hex's health sign? It looks about the same. Yeah. Thank you. Additional questions, comments? If not, is there a motion from the commission? I'll move we approve it uh that uh and it be done within accordance with the staff's recommendations as to color. All right. Is there a second to that motion?

I'll second it. Any additional discussion, questions? If not, if you would call the role. Mr. Austin. I. Mr. Pennington. Hi. Mr. Wilson. Hi. Mr. Schuman. Hi.

All right. Next order business is um certificate of appropriateness. Atlantic Host LLC owner, Bristol Sign Company, Walden LLC representative, certificate of appropriateness for internally illuminated freestanding signage located at 502, 510, 534, 546, 550, 558, 562, 568, 574, and 588 Street, Abington, Virginia 24210. parcels 105A-2-16 com, 105 A-2-16A and 105 A-2-16- 16 C in parenthesis that report. Yeah. Okay.

Uh, so Atlantic Coast LLC owner and Bristol Sign Company, Walden LLC representative have requested approval of a certificate appropriateness for internally illuminated freestanding signage. This is located near the entrance into the plaza and coming street. So you guys probably all you know where this is at exactly, but it's where that entrance kind of goes into and that's why there's so many addresses and parcels there because that opens up into that kind of shopping plaza as you drive further over the bridge there. Uh the property is within the general business district by two and the signs in the entrance corridor. Uh the current shopping plaza is home to many different businesses with a total of 10 addresses within. Uh that's just what they have right now. So there could be room for maybe more suites. I could see if they broke it up even further. Uh some of the buildings. Uh the applicant proposes to remove the existing internally illuminated double-sided painted red steel freestanding sign cabinet arrow and marquee uh cabinet. So it's this this sign that we're looking here. Uh cut and add two 4in x 4 in painted gray steel sleeves, one for each existing painted red steel 6in x 6 in post. uh install five LED internally illuminated double-sided painted gray steel freestanding sign cabinets with horizontal divider bars for Washington Crossing Shopping Plaza. All existing painted red steel uh will be painted gray and each freestanding sign cabinet will be filled with white acrylic panels. Overall height of the freestanding sign structure will be 19 ft. Uh this is within that 16 and 60 ft of the highway. So that's why it's allowed to be bigger than 15 feet. Um, with a 7 foot by twoft foot half inch top cabinet with black applied vinyl graphics and four 5-ft by 1 ft 1/2 inch tenant cabinets as you see here. Um, so again, it's kind of at right at that

entrance, not in the shopping plaza. It's as you enter over that kind of entrance and over the bridge there. Uh I did count to what to seeing how many were on that kind of this existing one here. There is not enough spaces here uh for how many units are there. That's the one question I asked the applicant. Why are they just not combining them? When I actually went to go count how many spaces there were there currently and there's maybe even room to maybe split up a few of those buildings into other addresses. Uh it's over what could maybe fit on here. So uh or what's already here in terms of cabinets. So the applicant can maybe fill in any of the gaps that maybe you may have in some questions, but that's where they're at. So

So the question I have is, well, I guess you're and I guess you just addressed it is you've got a number of businesses that don't that may not fit into four signs. So well, I think it's between this one and the other one, they would all fit in. Uh but at the moment uh but again that's just one question I had for the applicant when I first got it. Um so so are they going to replace that whole thing that says Hampton in? No, they're not moving that one. It's just the red one that has the arrow and the cabin marquee and stuff. Oh, okay. So that was the one that gets

that's the one that's getting the whole revamp as you see in your packet. So this red one or the steel this red steel one will look like this. So, here's the one that has the Hampton in on it and everything currently. So, are they going to be side by side? Yes. So, they're not really moving the existing sign. They're just making a little bit taller and adding the more cabinets to it. So, it'll be just like this. So, imagine this rendering taking this. There be a better comprehensive sign to take care of all of the There could be the items. That's kind of up to the boards.

Yeah. My problem is you're going to end up with like 10 different locations on two signs. The way I'm looking at that, it seems the one that says Hampton in all had uniform rectangles like the top two or top three. I guess if you stack them together though, you had a wind problem or like if they touched each other or square footage on the sir, could you come up to the podium?

And if you could just give your name and address. Joe Walden, Bristol Sign Company. Walden. Your address? 6870. Oh, 6870 Gay City Highway, Bristol. Pit's over there, too. Oh, it's right here. Yeah. 22. So, yeah. So, they're the wind load shouldn't be a problem. I mean, it's square footage on the signage is going to be the same. I think it's just that's the older signage, not I don't know who put in the square cabinet below the unit. Um, I actually put that unit in when I did the Hampton in on top few years ago.

It just I'm just spitballing here. It just seems like that, you know, if that ABC and H&R Block and the blown away if they were like closer together and then the rehab one and the senior helpers were the same size as H&R Block and ABC and they crunched them together, they'd have just one sign with everybody in there. Well, it looks like it would be a room, but I don't with that unit being there's also a digital unit in below the uh the hair salon. Oh, okay. I was trying to figure out what else EMC a digital display. Looks like snow fence in the picture. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's an LED.

And I did speak Lisa Walden from Bristol Sign as well. I did speak with the owner um from Greer Properties, Jonathan Keller, and he said that he has four vacant suites in the shopping center um and those are his potential his potential um tenants for that. But he also said he's currently splitting that one for the Ivy rehab and he would prefer that they be able to have their own tenant panel, full tenant panel. Yeah. Do do you know if that electronic sign is it's Hampton or it just says Hampton in this picture and it goes through all of the It's actually belongs to Hampton. It belongs to Okay.

Yeah, the the digital display does. It may not be feasible to try to stick everything on one. And I think that's only I think I think it's might be 8 inch steel on that. It could be 10. Might be 10 inch steel. Can't remember when I did that. It was it was already existing as well. I don't remember that digital one coming through here. It's not been there that long. That was before my time. It's been it's been or maybe it has been a while. It's been some longer with the highrise and everything. Yeah, maybe it is longer now. Like

I know it was here when I started in in 2022. So I know that was there when I started. I think it was close to when we first when they built the meadows or when they did the highway construction that moved over. Yep. Okay. But but is ABC and HR H&R BL those are part of what's considered Washington Crossing. Correct. So I can show you on here I'll show you on GIS here so you can get a better idea here. go down there. So, Atlantic Coast LLC owns this one right here. This one where the Hampton end is and where the shopping center is. The sign's up here, right?

Um, so they own all these properties and uh when this was Porttoelloo's, that's that red sign. That's what that was Porttoello sign that was here. Um, and then that sign, the sign up here kind of represents this one. this parcel that has the Hampton in on it and then all the businesses that are here like ABC, H&R Block, the salon, all those Ivy, the Ivy Rehab, those kinds, right? But you've got one sign that says Washington Crossing with some bill some some shops or whatever you want to refer to as and then you've got another sign that has the other parts. Correct. Well, and that the whole purpose of a comprehensive sign plan is to be comprehensive. Mhm.

I get it. That would be my my concern is you got two signs for the same area, you got basically maybe as many as 10 different businesses. And one of the concerns I have is if you're looking at this to find out what's there and to me that one sign would be so much more efficient. And you know, one of the things that concerns me, and I've said this about signs on that road, uh, in other situations, if you have to slow down to read a sign to figure out where something is, you cause a traffic as

I mean, that's, you know, because the the traffic on that road moves at a a much faster pace than the 35 mph speed limit. So, I guess back in the day when that was one thing, it was like Magic Mart and something else. And there was only like three things in there. Yeah. So, Magic Mart was where the Hampton in was at. Yeah. And so it's kind of morphed into multi. Yeah. And there's multip and there's other spaces where like we had one and think a couple years a like maybe within a year we split that a unit was one whole one into two to get because that's where senior helpers they split one one full unit into two spaces. So

yeah. Yeah, I mean I think every business needs to have some visibility on a sign, but um I I agree. It seems like well just look at can you in the previous discussion that we just had in terms of having same background in the same signs we're the same thing here. You've got all kinds of different structures in the I mean again we're not we're going to do a comprehensive sign plan. This one does not meet any of the requisitions of a comprehensive plan.

So, but this is what the the applicant went to Bristol Walden to present. And I and I mentioned this to Lisa that this might be something where the planning commission might want to see a comprehensive sign plan that's because you're kind of having two signs there at the same thing. Um they're just presenting what they were tasked to tonight. um as kind of on your in your field to say, you know, to table and say we would like to maybe hear if the applicant would be open to doing a comprehensive sign plan and move from there. That's within your right to ask for that. But I feel like we we we have to do that.

I mean, I I feel like and I I hate to put you guys on the spot, but I when you put two signs side by side and they're so different and we're and I agree with what Chad just said about the what we conversation about the Johnson Center. I feel like, you know, if if all possible to have one sign, I think that would eliminate that. Yeah. It's like um when we designed the pinnacle, you know, you got that out on the interstate, you got the sign and it's it kind of brands it as this is the pinnacle and here's what you got. Of course, they got a food one, too, but

it I don't know. That's kind of the way I'm thinking. Well, and and and in in terms of issues with people trying to locate something, that's also one sign makes the ability to locate what you're looking for much easier than two or three signs that you're trying to look at and figure out where you're trying to go. Like this is a great improvement to what's sitting out there. I was thinking to say

that's that's the only plus. It does look a lot better. as it was. I'd like to make a motion that we table this uh request tonight and uh ask that the owner explore other options as Chad's described comprehensive sign plan there with the preference being a single sign for all of the building establishments in that shopping. And this also gives them the ability for I'm sure you guys already know that if they go for a conference sign plan that they don't have to come back before the planning commission. They just do a sign permit with the town.

Now, is it going to be a problem um that they want to see? Because it's kind of I understand what you're saying. It's kind of jumped around because I don't I'm trying to think why that unit is lower. Is that going to be a problem? because they'll probably because Hampton it's kind of crazy that Hampton's on top and the unit's down low and they'll probably want to pick that unit all the way up to the top underneath the Hampton. Do you know be a problem and then like put a tendon panel? I I just like to know what that let them know what we can do. Yeah. Do you know what the height of that is currently? Um I do not. But I got to then I'll have to check the wind loads if that still even handle that much more signage on existing steel. Yeah, that was my concern. Yeah, once you do that, once you close it in,

give me one sec here. Let me see if I can find it here. So, for freestanding signs, um they can be up to they can 15 ft is the max if you're not in kind of 660 ft of the uh interstate. Uh except they can be 50 feet allowed if within 660 ft of I 81. Is that one in that? I don't think. Yeah. No. Yeah, that Yeah. Yeah, that one's I I checked it before we even talked on the phone. Okay. And it was within that sort of So, we're good that that that requirement there.

Um and then you also get the ex uh 200 square feet allowed with the more signage since you're in that area. Uh so, so it is a lot. That's why I kind of asked the question, do you know how tall it is? Because there might be there might be wiggle room there for Yeah. Not for sure how tall that it's been a few years since I've done that. Yeah. I'm going to say 25 30 ft. The tall of the Hampton. Yeah. Did y'all put the Hampton in or the whole uh put the now the structure was existing and all the ABC uh H&R block them signs was already existing. We just I think we painted them and uh they was there and we put the unit in that was the only I think that was the only spot for the unit when we put that in there. And then we put the the new Hampton end up on top.

What was the old sign we took down? I can't remember. I was thinking we just replaced the face. I don't I don't believe it was you all. We had a conversation previously about the other sign that you all were asking to replace. The the thought was is that was going to be removed all together that we're going to be left with that. But again, I know that's not putting that's not putting right to go back and check notes on that. But that was kind of the consensus is that was going to go away all together because it was not in good shape. It wasn't being utilized. And see, we I think we were involved in that because we discussed that at one point and because they kept going back and forth for so long about just trying to get a design,

right? So, this has been a couple of years in in the works to get this far. Well, I remember having discussions about that one particular sign and there wasn't really a hey, we know what we're doing. We have a motion on the floor. Second. Okay. Any additional discussion? Any additional questions? If not, if you would call the role. Mr. Austin. Hi. Mr. Pennington. Hi. Mr. Wilson. Hi. Mr. Schuman. Hi. Yep.

And then whenever you hear back from your from your client, just let me know. We'll we'll work out something. Then we'll uh we'll try to get you on. If you hear within time, we'll we'll get you on the next meeting so we can try and get that going. Okay. I'll try. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you.

Okay. The next order of business, certificate of appropriateness, Abington Interiors applicant, the Clifton Partnership owner, Jerry Signs, Inc. representative, certificate of appropriateness for non-eluminated wall projecting window and door signage located at 263 West Main Street, Abington, Virginia 24210. SES parcel011-1-885A in parentheses staff report.

Excuse me there. Uh yes, Abidan Interior's applicant, the Clifton Partnership owner and Jerry Signs Incorporated representative have requested approval of of a certificate appropus for non-illuminated wall projecting window and door signage located at 263 West Main Street. Uh the property is within the central business district B3 and the entrance corridor. Uh background parcel 011-1-85A contains multiple businesses. So there there would be this one. I believe HLB is still there. Uh I saw him in kind of the middle unit and then um Edward Jones is at the end of that building. Uh so starting off first with the wall sign, the applicant proposes to install a 5 foot uh 5 and 6 in by two foot in 14.58 square ft non-eluminated single-sided painted black framed aluminum with white applied vinyl graphics. A wall sign attached to the existing south elevation brick veneer near the existing primary entrance. Uh the sign that you see there is just that's just a temporary sign that they put up since the business is going in pretty soon. So, we granted them a temporary sign to at least people knew that they were there. So, that isn't a permanent sign. Uh, this is where again, exact same location pretty much would be here. Um, next, the applicant proposes to install a 3ft 23 in by 1 ft 3.67 foot non-illum double-sided painted black framed aluminum with white applied vinyl graphics projecting sign. hung from the existing white vinyl sophet using a combination of painted black I hooks and S hooks uh near the existing primary entrance. Per the sign ordinance, the bottom of the projecting sign must be at least 8 ft above the town sidewalk. Um so again, here's what's existing. Here's where they want to put it.

Uh next, the applicant proposes to install 7.67 67 square foot of non-eluminated single-sided black and white applied vinyl graphics window signs attached along the bottom of all existing south elevation window glass. So that's the this is the existing what you see now and that's what they want to do uh or that's what they're proposing. Next, the applicant proposes to install 2.95 square feet of non-illuminated single-sided black and white applied vinyl graphics window signs attached along the bottom of the three existing west elevation window glass uh closest to the southwest corner of the brick veneer building. So, again, here's that side. That's what they're looking to do. And then again, um the applicant proposed to install a non-elilluminated single-sided white applied vinyl graphics uh door sign attached to the upper half of the primary entrance door. And that's what it would look like as you see there. Um, so again, we've got a wall sign. It's a projecting sign. That's what we classify it as, but it's a hanging sign. U, your window signage on the primary and then the west side. And then you have that door sign. And again, all this would be non- illuminated. questions. Is the applicant here? Does the applicant want to make a comment? Certainly welcome to if you any

Good afternoon. Daniel, Jerry Signs, 15775 Porterfield Highway. Basically, what we're doing is we're taking her old store from Porterfield Highway and trying to recreate it here just so it keeps the same familiar looks, people know where it is and everything. There's not really much anything besides what Gabe said. It's just I can't remember what the height was. Do you gave There were like seven inches across the bottom of the windows. Let me see here. Uh for the north or the south, the main facing. The main face. It is. No, but it's pretty much just whatever that window is, that's what I'll be placing there.

Um the one question I did have just I know we've asked this in the past is will that be a a totally black strip? That's or will that be kind of the white just there? And that's just a curious question. It's nothing. When you go to draw it, all windows look black when you look in them. It's just the way they show up. But I think the way it is proposed, it is a black strip with white print. Okay. But I just asked because I know other board members have asked that question before for window sign. So just in case always within the allowable. Yeah. Additional questions. Yeah, I need to put a shutter on that metal one.

It's killing me. Oh, I'll switch the slides so you don't Is the insurance group going to remain in the back of the building? Will they be having signage back there?

So, if you see here, their signs there. Um, if they leave, they were still, when I went to go take photos, she's taking the front portion. When I went to go take photos, they were kind of in the middle unit because I still see out people with desks in there and everything and they had kind of their paper just uh taped onto the door. And I know they have a freestanding sign at the entrance. So, um if they do leave then we would say, you know, you also need to move that sign that's at the entrance because you're no longer there. Um but at the moment, from what I can see, they're still in that middle portion. And then Edward Jones. Um, if you go further down the built further down this way, they have their sign there that you've seen previously. So, in total, there is like three tenants in there from what I could

because the only tenant that has the sign that we're talking about insurance the Yeah. Is that sign just city sidewalk when I took the picture? Yes. Because that's that sign was where Abid Interior sign is proposing to go. So it was right there. So it's kind of that if you're on West Main Street, you're walking down, you looked to the right, it's kind of like a little bay. Okay. And you looked in there and you walked in before you walked into the building. Their sign was right there. From what I could see, they're moving. They're still in that unit. There's maybe in the middle. So we're just looking at we're keeping an eye on that to see if So they the insurance group would have to come back for a separate if they moved

if they decided that they wanted a a different or they wanted to because that sign that's sitting on the ground is a fairly large sign for a and that was done before I came in. So I don't know when it exactly was approved um before the board. Um but if they wanted to have a different type of signage or different shape or different place and then they just they would come before you guys. So we're just keeping we're keep an eye on that one but as of right now they they look like they were there. I'll make a motion to present as as to approve as present. Is there a second to that motion? Second. All right. Additional discussion. If not, if you would call the RO. Mr. Austin. I. Mr. Pennington. I.

Mr. Wilson. I. And Mr. Schuman. I. All right. Next order of business. Certificate of appropriateness. Silly girl thrift applicant. Top priorities partnership owner certificate of appropriateness for non-illuminated freestanding and door signage located at 498 East Main Street Abington, Virginia 24210 parenthesis parcel 014-5-27 and parenthesis staff report.

Uh so Silly Girl Thrift applicant top priorities partnership owner and uh oh I'm sorry not that one. uh requested uh have requested approval of distributed appropriateness for non-inum freestanding and door signs located at 498 East Main Street. The properties within the B2 district and the entrance corridor. So, uh Lindare is that might be an easier way to know like where this building is because they're there as well. And since I've been here, they they've been there. Uh parcel 014-5-27 contains multiple businesses. So, there's top floor, bottom floor, there's a whole bunch on the bottom floor that's kind of broken up into suites. Um, the applicant proposes to remove the existing uh there was two blank acrylic non non-aluminated single-sided freestanding sign panels from the existing painted white steel building tenant sign structure and replace them with two 6 ft by 3' 3 and 1/4 in 22.5 ft non-illuminated single-sided uh this is just what I could see from the rendering that was sent in. tan acrylic with purple and pink applied vinyl graphics freestanding sign panel set in the existing painted white steel building tenant sign structure. Uh the existing painted white steel building tenant sign structure will remain unchanged. Um so again here's the existing sign that's there. This is kind of for the the two biggest ones I guess you could say is linkare and then a silly girl that would be on the top floor. So if you were to walk in on Main Street, this is what they're looking to propose. So just this sort of panel set within the space. Um, additionally, the applicant proposes to install a 11in x 11 in 0.85 ft non-alum single-sided white applied vinyl graphics door sign. So I've kind of highlighted where the red square is. So that's approximately the location putting on the door. And then that's just a picture of the fine.

Uh if you have any questions. Oh, and then one thing again as the planning commission's kind of stayed on the same kind of path if it's has already existing center which linkare is and it's white background and kind of is a sign that shows where the businesses are. Uh staff recommendation is to maintain a unified design. Uh the acrylic freestanding sign panel should be white instead of tan to match the other freestanding sign panel set in the existing painted white steel building tenant sign structure. So again based on what has been heard from the planning commission and the other ones that we've done just to keep consistency to that. So if you have any questions for me I'm more than happy to answer them. If not, the applicant's here to answer any questions you may have or if there's anything I missed, feel free to come up uh to the mic.

Just a minor correction, the sign will be white. White. Okay. The background will be white, not and could you say your uh name? I'm sorry. Sherry Booer. And my address. You could just say what Silly Girl's address is. It is 498 East Main Street. And so that will be white. It will be white. Yes. So the background for this silly girl would be white, not not down. Correct. Any questions for the applicant?

All right. Anything else? You No, sir. Okay. What's the pleasure of the commission? Well, I'll make a motion we approve uh uh with the stipulation that the the background is white and not tan as shown on this. Okay. Is there a second to that motion? I'll second. All right. Any additional discussion? If not, if you would call the role. Mr. Austin. I. Mr. Pennington. I. Mr. Wilson. Hi. And Mr. Schuman. Hi. Thank you. Thank you.

All right. Uh, see old business not on the agenda. Discussion concerning amending December planning commission regular meeting from December 22nd uh, 2025 to December 15, 2025. So that's just moving it up a Monday given it's so close to the holiday and I have a prior engagement for that too. So just to make sure and this way we still give people the opportunity to get something in if they if they if they need to for that. So again just moving it up that next Monday. So the third Monday. I mean that makes sense to me. Yeah. So if I can just get a motion for that second and then you do need a motion. Okay. There somebody

I'll make a motion to move the meeting up one week for purposes. Okay. I'll second. All right. Any additional discussion? If not you'd call the role. Give me one second. Mr. Austin, hi. Mr. Pennington. Hi, Mr. Wilson. Hi, Mr. Schuman. Hi. Before we adjourn, I'd like to introduce Amber Howard. She's our new planner one. Uh Caleb left us in July. Uh so she'll be she's our part of our new team. So eventually she'll be up here presenting staff reports to and everything. So welcome. Welcome. Yeah. Other than that, I've got nothing for you. Um is there a motion to adjourn? Some move. Is there a second?

Second. All those in f favor signify by saying I. I. Any opposed? We'rejourned.