City Council - Regular Meeting

Okay. Is this on? All right. Is this Yeah, it's  turned on. So, it's 3:00 and uh we will uh get   started. We have a quorum, although uh council  member Weatherbe is running a moment late,   so he will be coming in and joining us in a couple  of minutes, but we'll go ahead and get started   since it's 3:00. Um, as we always do, we're  going to start this meeting with an invocation   um, from Jean Glazer of the Lake Church and we'll  follow that with the pledges. So, thank you,   pastor. Dear Father, thank you so much for the day  and for the cool mornings and the opportunity to   sense the refreshment coming of fall. Thank you so  much for this creation that you have made and the   opportunity for us to to be pleased by it. Thank  you so much, Father, for our city government,   for all these people that are volunteers and  staff to give their time and their dedication   uh to the proper functioning of the city  uh to make this a place that we all enjoy   and love. And we pray that you'll continue  to give them encouragement and strength,   wisdom, and discernment to do these things  in a way that will bring honor to you and   be bring honor to our community. Thank  you so much for your son and his death   and the hope that we have in him. We pray  through the power of your son's name. Amen. God, justice for all.

Everybody's here. Thank you. Um, okay. The uh  um is fire chief here? Are you going to do the   proclamation for fire prevention? We Oh, no. There  you are, Doug. I didn't see you back there. Thank   you. Sorry. Just just got back from a fire, but  all is good. Oh, really? Did you put it out? Put   it out. Yes, we did. Yes, we did. Otherwise, you  should still be there. Exactly. Exactly. Okay. Uh,   yes, ma'am. So, um, Great Chicago Fire was  configation that burned in Chicago during October   8th through 10th, 1871. Fire killed approximately  300 people, destroyed roughly roughly 3.3   square miles in the city, uh, including 17,000  structures, and left more than 100,000 residents   homeless. The fire is claimed to have been started  uh at 8:30 p.m. on October 8th in or around a   small barn belonging to the Olirri family. The  shed next to the barn was the first building   to be consumed by the fire. City officials never  determined the cause of the blaze, but the rapid   spread of the fire due to a long drought in that  year's summer. Strong winds from the southwest and   the rapid destruction of the water pumping system  explain the extensive damage to the mainly wooden   city structures. There's been much speculation  over the years on a single start of the fire,   but most popular tale blames Mrs. Olirri's cow who  allegedly knocked over a lantern. Since that time,   annually, firefighters across the nation has  have emphasized the need for fire prevention   efforts. In the first week of October, the city of  Horseshoe Bay's fire prevention efforts are led by   Assistant Chief Stephanie Black, who diligently  works with department development services to   ensure fire codes are followed and the message of  fire safety is carried throughout our community.  

Uh please join me in thanking Chief Stephanie for  her outstanding service in leading and delivering   the fire prevention efforts for the city of  Horseshoe Bay. Thank you. Thank you. So there   is a proclamation that uh for uh declaring  the week of October 5th through the 11th as   fire prevention week and um this includes  things like um smartphones, tablets, um lithium batteries, ion batteries, a number of  things that can cause fires. Um it's includes   residents are responsible for public education  measures and um able to take personal steps to   increase their fire safety. So in 2025 fire  prevention week theme is charge into fire   safety. Uh lithium batteries in your home serves  to remind us the importance of using charging and   recycling lithium ion batteries safely to reduce  the risk of fires in homes and communities.   I know you have a great program um in  helping residents to understand that. Yes,   ma'am. We always try and get the word out and  the emphasis this year is making sure you use   the right cord for the right product and the  right charging station and within manufacturers   uh instructions. Those are all key. None of  those uh didn't come with the with the device   ports. Huh. With the device ports. None  of those that didn't come with the device,   correct? Yeah. Well, okay. Thank  you. Thank you very much, Chief. That's my extension cord. Why would  he do that? Thank you, Chief. Okay,   now we have um some some people to recognize, new  people, and u people who've been here a while. So,   Jeff. Yes. Uh thank you, mayor. Uh thank you,  council. Uh it's a pleasure to be here today.  

Um we had uh one of our longtime employees uh  left us in our utility billing and we're very   sorry to see her go. She moved up to Wisconsin and  but that happens sometimes and so um we have hired   a new utility billing clerk and uh if I don't  butcher her name that would be amazing but it's   Michelle Fresniki. Is that right? Yes. Oh, well  that's pretty close. Okay. Michelle um previously   worked 26 years with HB, so she really knows how  to deal with people and and front service and she   has two children and is very flamm orientated.  Um she loves to cook. She loves to spend time   with her family in church. And so please join us  with our new member of the utility billing staff. We're glad to have you, Michelle. It's a  nice group of ladies up at the front desk,   so I'm sure you'll you'll find yourself in  good company. Thank you. Okay. Thank you so   much. Appreciate it. Pleasure to be here. Thank  you. Thank you. And now we u Chief Graham has got   another presentation to make. I'm going to stay  up here too because I've known Jay for a very   long time as well. He's been this is his second  life with us. Um, he was here before. How many   years before? 16. 16. 16 years with the police  department before. And so I've known Jay for   a long time and I'll stand by his side at any  time. So go ahead, Chief. Mayor, councel. Uh,   this is a presentation of an award commemorating  officer Jay Bowman on his fiveyear five years of   service to the city of Horseshoe Bay. Officer  Bowman is celebrating five years of service.   Uh he joined the department in April of 2000.  Quickly became an investigator for the department.  

He served as lieutenant over the CD division,  criminal investigative division before retirement   in 2016. He returned in 2020 and he serves he's  currently serving as a communications officer.   Jay also assists with many open records  requests and is u that he receives at the   police department as well as upkeeping the many  computers and the networks that we have at the   police department. Jay has over 28 years in  law enforcement and he holds a master peace   officer license. Jay and his wife Dolly live  in Marble Falls and enjoy many grandchildren. So, it's fair to say that Jay has also mentored  lots of generations of our of our officers. He's probably already got a few  of those at home. [Applause] Jay's the voice that you hear when you call the  police department and he's always so cheerful   and so helpful and um um it's it's great to have  uh that that voice on the other end of the phone   when you call and need something of the PD. So,  thank you so much, Jay. Okay, public comment. So,   if you're here to comment on an item that's on  the agenda, uh I will wait until we get to that   that stage to call on you. But there is one um  individual here, Bob Honors, his wants to talk   to us about the RTOR ranch project. Um Bob, I'll  ask you to uh hold your comments to three minutes,   please. And she's got a timer over here if you  need it. Mayor, city council. Um, I'm a six and  

a half year resident of Horseshoe Bay and also a  member of the Hill Country Trekers Group and here   with Rick Overall to register our opposition  to the RTOR ranch proposal as it stands now   because of the high density of homes which would  impact the current city's preserve. serve. Mayor   Thurman's August report stated that the city's  service survey overwhelmingly express the desire   for more outdoor spaces. In response to this, she  and the city council have proposed plans to create   a new walking trails that will wind through the  city and offer a peaceful place for the citizens   of Wish Bay to connect with. I applaud this along  I know with all the treers. This is a wonderful   uh project. I'm aware of property rights in a  project like the RTOR rant and it's that delicate   balance between what the owner wants and what's  right for the community. Well, the density of   this RTOR ranch project is completely opposite  of what was expressed in the community survey.   Wayne Herd was a co-founder of Horseshoe Bay  and it's my understanding that before he died   he donated the stretch of land that extends from  the mausoleum down to Thanksgiving Drive and is  

dedicated to have a peaceful place to connect  with nature and it's got hiking trails. In fact,   one of the trails is named Wayne's Trail after our  co-founder Wayne Herd. My question is, what would   Wayne Herd feel about this RTOR ranch project that  will dot a high concentration of homes along this   pristine preserve? In my opinion, the RTOR Ranch  development would significantly deteriorate the   beauty and the serenity that we have with Wayne  Herd's Preserve. And my request is don't let the   RTOR ranch project mess up such a beautiful and  peaceful place where people can now connect with   na d with with nature. The U Hill Country Treers  are glad to meet any time with a developer to try   to work out compromises. Thank you. Thank you for  your attention. Thank you. That's uh we appreciate   it. the the um trackers are very good. They come  to every council meeting and um um we can't we   can't discuss what what's not on the agenda, but  we appreciate you coming and making your comments.   So, thank you. Um so, the other comment relates  to an item that's on the agenda. So, we will   move forward into item seven um on your on your  schedule, council. Um the 2026 budget adoption   and tax rate adoption section. Molly Jester  and council. Um, please follow along with your   agenda very closely because we have to do this  in a certain order and you have to say exactly  

the language that is recommended on in your packet  and we will take a roll call vote on on some parts   of this. So, just be sure you pay attention  and you know where we are in this packet. So,   sure. Good afternoon, Mayor and Council. There's  a Texas tax code that requires cities to hold   a public hearing on our tax rate. Um, if you  recall, the initial tax rate was proposed in   July and there's been no Let me stop you. Um, Die,  do I need to open a public hearing on this? Okay,   let me open the public hearing at 3:14 and and go  ahead, Molly. Do I start over? It's okay. Start   over. Okay. Um there's a Texas tax code that  requires cities to hold a public hearing on the   tax rate. If you recall, uh the initial tax rate  was proposed in July of this year and there's been   notifications of this hearing on our website and  in publications. Um also in July um the city was   approved um has approved a proposed tax weight  rate of 0.26775 per $100 of value as a maximum   rate the council would approve. The staff will  be recommending the same rate as that avoids any   mandated votes or petition votes to change the tax  rate. That same tax rate states that this public   hearing can be no more than seven days prior  to the adoption of the tax rate. Therefore, the   adoption of this tax rate will follow this public  hearing. Um, citizens have a final opportunity to   bring forward any question, comments, or concerns  about the tax rate. Are there any? Oh, okay. Yes.

Oh, I think would you go to the podium, please? That's okay. You don't have to in a public. Okay.  Thank you. Um, at the last uh meeting, I think   you presented that the tax rate was going to stay  the same as the year before. Is that previous two   years? It's previous two years. But then, if  I'm not mistaken, when you showed the budget,   I believe it showed that we're going to have a  deficit. Am I wrong? Was there is there a deficit   or no? Okay. I just I just misunderstood your last  presentation. So, that that was my question. Are   we going into a deficit? But we're not. Oh, okay.  No, that is You must have misunderstood. Okay. Not   only do we not have a deficit, we keep we keep a  three and a half month um um balance um reserve   in addition to um the rest of the money that we  have. So no, not at all. Excellent. We will get   to the budget. We don't have it to Yeah, the  budget's coming up too. Um now the okay the   first so I need to close the public hearing but  we're not going to adopt the tax rate first right else yeah is there anyone else who wants to speak  or council do you have any questions on the t   we're talking about the tax rate so um so I guess  I'm confused why can't we approve approve this   tax rate. We have to approve the budget before  the tax rate. Yeah. So, we're going to who who   decided that state that figures mother nature.  So, we're we're going to uh we we have the public   hearing. If is there anyone else who has questions  on the tax rate? So, I'm going to close the public   hearing at 3:17. We will vote on the tax rate,  but we have to before we vote on the tax rate, we  

have to vote on the budget just because Governor  Abbott said that, but the budget is based on the   tax rate. Correct. Okay. So, you thought this was  going to make sense, Frank? Yeah. Okay. Go ahead,   Molly. Now, let's now moving forward to page  nine. council. So, the proposed budget was filed   with the legislative services director on August  11th. Um, we have had two workshops since then,   July 8th and August 26 to finalize this budget.  Um, notifications for a public hearing were   prepared and that hearing on the budget was at  the August 26 uh regular city council meeting.   The attached budget which should be in your  agenda is uh ready for adoption and this   adoption will require a roll call vote and that's  for the year 2025-26 and it's ordinance 2025-32. Okay. And just to address u Mr. over Holtz's  question. Molly, on page 16 of your packet,   it does show that the projected budgeted ending  balances, make sure I'm saying this right,   for the utility fund will be 6.8 million  and change. And for the um general fund,   it'll be 5.5 million and change. And then the  lesser funds are also in the in the I don't have   the page number, but I know they're both positive.  That's right. Okay. Um Okay, council members,   do you have any questions for Molly on the budget  that you haven't already asked and wanted to or   you even ask it again if you want. Okay. So, if  somebody would be willing to go to page nine and  

um make these motions as scripted, I move to  approve ordinance 2025-32, which will adopt   the budget beginning 101 2025 and ending 9:30 2026  as presented by staff and amended at this meeting,   including designating unassigned reserves for  vehicle replacement, boat, combined facility yard,   transportation, DRC permit deposits, and  drainage as reflected in the budget. Okay,   I have a motion from council member  Jones. Um, is there a second? Okay,   I have a second from council member  Weatherbe. Now, is there any discussion? No. Okay. Will the legislative  services director please call roll? Hi, yes. I So, the motion to approve ordinance 2025-32  to adopt the fiscal year 2025-26 budget passes   with a five to zero vote. Motion carries.  Thank you. Thank you, council. Okay. So,   um, now we're going to go on to item C on the  agenda. Molly. Yes. Um, this is page 51, council. So for ordinance 2025-33 um chapter 26 of  the Texas tax code requires cities in Texas   to adopt a tax rate which uses specific verbiage  after going through notification to citizens in a  

tax rate public hearing. Additionally, the public  hearing required notification in publications as   well as on the city website which we have done.  Um this ordinance reflects the tax rate again   of 26775 which that is the same as the last two  years. This tax rate is greater than the no new   revenue tax rate. That means that Horseshoe Bay  is proposing to increase property taxes for the   2025 tax year or our 26 fiscal year. The tax rate  is not greater than the voter approval tax rate,   which is y'all's rate, and not greater than the  dimminimous rate. As a result, the city is not   required to hold an election at which voters  may accept or reject this proposed tax rate.   However, residents may express their support  for or opposition to the proposed proposed tax   rate by contacting members of the council um or  attending the public hearing. The maintenance and   operations portion of that rate will be.1433 and  the interest and seeking portion will be 07342.   Both rates are to be approved, but the legislation  does not include them being approved together. The   vote on the tax rate must be a record rate vote  and because the rate exceeds the no new revenue   rate must have a 60% approval and the proposed  motion must be read exactly as provided based on   tax code 26. Okay. On page 51, there is a scripted  motion that I would like for someone to make,   please. I move to approve ordinance 2025-33.  Further, I move that the property tax rate be  

adopted at a rate tax rate of 26775 per  $100 comprised of an M rate of 09433 per   $100 and an INS rate of 07342 per $100, which is  effectively a 2.86% 86% increase in the adopted   tax rate from the no new revenue rate. Thank you.  Council member um Morgan made the motion. Is there   a second? Second by council member Wadell. Um  council, is there any discussion? Okay. I'll   just make I just want to make this clear. Even  though it says we're increasing the tax rate,   we're not. It's just required. It's what it's what  it's the way the verbiage is required to be stated   because it's higher than the no new revenue rate.  It's exactly the same tax rate that we charged   that we that we paid last year and the year  before. Correct. So um with that u clarification,   uh legislator Kerry, would you um proceed with  a roll call vote requesting I or nay from each   member? Jones. Hi, Council Member. Hi, Council  Member Morgan. Hi, Council Member Wood. Hi,   Council. Hi. Okay. Thank you. The motion to  approve ordinance 2025-33 to adopt a tax rate   for the city of Horseshoe Bay for fiscal year  2026 passes with a 5 to zero vote in favor of.   Motion carries. Thank you. Okay. You're not you're  not done yet. I know. One more. Okay. the ratify   the property tax revenue increase reflecting the  annual the adopted annual budget for fiscal year   2026. So we're on page 54 council. All right.  So there's another code that requires cities   to hold a special vote if a budget is adopted  that will raise more property tax dollars than  

the prior year budget. And while this tax  rate may be lower than the previous year,   it is possible to collect more property tax  dollars based on our increase in property   valuations in the area. Staff recommends the city  council approve the motion to ratify the property   tax increase reflected in the budget. No specific  verbiage is required for this section. Thank you.   Okay, council. We don't have to have a roll call  vote on this, but I do need a motion. I move to   ratify the property tax increase reflected in the  adopted annual budget for fiscal year 2025-206. Motion by council member Weatherbe. Is there a  second? Second. Second by council member Morgan.   Um I have a motion and a second. Are there is  there any further discussion questions? Okay.   All in favor say I. I. No. Okay. The motion  carries. Thank you. Thank you very much,   Molly. I do have one question. It's not why do we  have to say property tax increase when it's not   um it's just that changed people can't be that  stupid you know it this happened in what 2020   Molly was that when they when they adopted  all these new new well and I can answer that   question they say because um your uh property  values may have increased or you've added more   property taxes to your role and you kept the  same rate. That's why in their mind sits an   increase. Well, then why don't they say it? I like  that tax. The way they say it is stupid. Well,   they sorry because we would get no new revenue if  we held a property tax. But if we said because of   the increased Yeah. I mean, all they have to do  is add some language. This, for people that aren't  

familiar with this, this is incredibly stupid.  It's incredibly complicated and comparative   confusing and it same thing happens with the ESDs.  It happens with the county. It happens with the   cities. We're all required to state it the same  way. And it and yes, it is confusing as well. That's a good idea. Well, and they they want the  citizens to perceive that you're increasing their   property taxes when you're not. I mean, they  just want that perception. Why don't they put   the whole language in there? Again, I go back  to that. Can can can you have some impact on   that? Can we do anything on that? You can you can  for clarification, you can um go to the TML and   and why don't we do that? saying because of the  increased number of homes and stuff, I understand   that. But I'm saying for the majority of the  citizens, this motion is very very misleading.   It makes it look like you're increasing taxes  and I think they they've designed it that way   because they don't like you. I don't like that.  The legislature does not like it to our agenda for   the next legislative session. All right, we can  do that. I'll be glad to go down there and speak.   Tell them I have no problem. So, I'll call them  No, but in TML like your resolution last time,   so I'm sure it is confusing. So, yeah. Okay.  The next item on the agenda is a public hearing   on ordinance 2025-36 amending chapter 14 zoning  article 14.02 and this is addressing minimum lot   sizes. I'm going to open a public hearing at 328.  And um Jeff, do you want to speak on this? We do   have one person who signed up to speak on this,  but I'd like to hear from you first. Yes. Um,  

this was brought forth and uh we were looking  at um some of our tree ordinances. Uh some   of our issues we had lot sizes. What? This  one's the minimum lot sizes. Oh, I'm sorry,   the minimum lot sizes. And uh we were looking at  um trying to come up with some average um sizes   uh as we start working our subdivision ordinances  together. we needed some back on this and some of   the the work that we did was to get um an average  size instead of a single size a lot u but as we   go through this it's not really clear um and  better defined and I think we have to have some   other ordinances to come along with this and so  I'd like to pull this off um and reconsider this   one and same with the second one too um to to to  bring this back to um liaison for public works and   really kind to work through this and make sure we  have a really clear understanding for the council   and the public before we come forwards with this  ordinance which will qualify uh what is an average   lot in the subdivision going forwards. Okay. I  um I support that. I but first I want to say I   want to I want to say to the the staff and to the  planning and zoning commission they spent a lot of   time on this. We recognize that. We appreciate it  and the work is not wasted. Um it's just maybe um   before we complete this public hearing, we we want  to have a little bit more input into it before we   are ready to pass an ordinance on it. So um um we  do have Mr. Overhalts spoke signed up to speak on   this. Would you like to say something? And again,  yes, please in again three minutes, please. I'd first like to ask uh it does say minimum lot  size. I know the the term average is brought up,  

but is a minimum lot size being considered by  the city for for platting purposes? Um do you   want Roy? Do you want to address you want to  speak to that? Yes sir. Uh they're really two   separate requirements and you regulate it in two  separate ways. Uh the normal it is very normal for   every zoning ordinance to include a minimum lot  size for a residential lot. The complication is   based on the fact that there is uh a requirement  in the state of Texas that before you create a   nonconformity for a property owner that you have  to send them a letter. Each individual property   owner uh send them a letter that says you're about  to consider this in an ordinance. In this case,   what we did was we had the GIS department help us  generate some data. And what you have going on in   Horseshoe Bay is even though you have some  very large lots in all of your subdivisions,   they also include some very small lots. So, in  order for us to comply with that and not send   out all these letters, we needed the minimum  lot size. And I'll give you an example of of   how that works and why it's still necessary. uh  any particular person that owns a lot can apply   to subdivide a lot. And if it doesn't add a new  lot to the inventory, in other words, let's say I   have three lots and they're all equal in size and  I want to change that and make one really large   lot and two very tiny lots. Okay, that goes to the  staff. And there's nothing that the staff can do   to prevent that unless you have a minimum lot size  that this person has gone below. So that's that's   the purpose of this ordinance. When we're talking  about how to regulate density on an average basis,  

that gets back into what you put in your  comprehensive plan and then have ordinances   that create the force of law, if you will, to  implement that comprehensive plan. That's when you   start talking about concepts like average density.  You you you enforce that with your future land use   map and things like that. So, these tools kind of  all work together, but but this one we think is is   important to stop what you don't realize they have  the right to do without you ever seeing it, which   is create very tiny lots. And I'll tell you what  it really does. It creates very awkward driveways   on those very tiny lots. And we fight constantly  to keep that from being worse than you realize   uh on the staff level. And so, this is really  a very standard part of any ordinance. We're   disappointed that the average I mean that the  the minimum lot sizes even in in things like the   trails where the lots are very very large. There's  a handful of very very small lots and that's what   you're seeing in those numbers. So we're we're  going to we're going to look at this more and   I we will come back. There's no urgency to doing  this by itself. Um the staff the staff said that   they wanted that that we needed to some additional  tools to this ordinance and so hopefully when when   this comes back we'll see some of those additional  tools coming at the same time so that we're doing   this more in a complete way. Um and that's that's  the intention. So um comprehensive plan and the   new subdivision rags those are by far the more  important tools. Does any uh council, do you   have any questions at this time on this? So, Rick  may not be I'm not finished. Oh, I'm sorry, Rick.   I apologize. I I'd like to address the whoever the  committee is or the city employees that are doing   this work and the city council consider that I  I'm just going to use Richtor Ranch as an example.  

Silver Rock was a great example and the and  the trails of how the city, you know, upheld,   you know, the density and the size of the lots.  I think it's headed in the right direction. And   I know we have existing lots that are for patio  homes and they squeeze them in and there's some   in my neighborhood and they look great. But I  think anytime that we're building next to a park   or a preserve that belongs to the community, we  really need to maybe we can work in some language   on density there. So these are lots that haven't  been platted yet. So you wouldn't have to reach   out to all the property owners like you mentioned  on the new ones. This would be just a developer.   But for instance, lots like that a minimum of a  quarter. I've looked at the um the literature from   RTOR Ranch and they're bragging per se and I look  forward to when they have another public hearing,   but they say that well our lots run from a  quarter lot to quarter acre to half an acre. Well,   if you look at it, I've looked at the platting. I  haven't seen the most recent one, but the one that   presented to Mayor Kleinmith, that's the only  one I could find. More than half the lots were   less than half an acre. they were like 0.18. Well,  that starts looking like Greg Ranch and you know,   we're not Greg Ranch or Horseshoe Bay. Um, so  I I really think we need to consider, you know,   making that minimum at least a quarter and then  make maybe making a special allowance if it's next   to a park, whether it's a city park, a POA park,  or a a preserve. Um, do you have anything to add   to that? Well, like I said, the the the normal way  to do that, and I'll give you an example. I mean   the Rtor's Ranch property is already zoned and  right now the minimum lot size is zero. Okay. So   the idea that we made it equal to the smallest lot  with the similar zoning district is an increase in  

in the restrictions. If you want to start talking  about compatibility and those sort of things,   the best way to do that tool is is through your  comprehensive plan, your future land use map,   where you are allowed to define average density  and then create ordinances to give you the tools   to to make that comprehensive plan enforceable  and say you can't zone something or plat something   that's not consistent with this map. And as Mr.  own is aware I'm feeding him more information   than he probably wants to read as we go along.  My understanding towards that and I and correct   me if I'm wrong, Roy, my understanding is that  RTOR ranch is already in the development review   process. Right. Correct. and um they will come  another public hearing will come before us but   um if they are once once they are already in the  design review process I don't believe this this   particular apply to them rights yes ma'am so um  I wouldn't speak to what they have and don't have   because they're not it's we're on the public  hearing on this ordinance and that's really a   different topic okay I would I just don't want And  it's a complicated topic as well, too. Okay. Um,   is there council, does any of you have do any of  you have any questions for for Roy? No, except   this Rick is why we're wondering whether today is  the best day to do this or not. So, we're going   to continue this 3:38. Did you have a question?  Oh, we're going to continue this public hearing   until December the 9th. Um, so we're not going  to close the public hearing. We will not have to   um public the planning and zoning won't have to  hear it again. We won't have to notice it again,   but we will take this up again on December  the 9th at the count regular council meeting  

at that time. And I would ask for a motion so  that council can vote on that so it's clear in   the record. Okay. Wants to continue it. So  the public hearing would would someone like   to make a motion that we continue the  public hearing until December the 9th?   I move that we continue the uh public hearing  on ordinance 2025-36 to the December 9th council   meeting. Thank you. Um Mayor Pro Tim made the  motion. Is there a second? Second from council   member Hosia. All in favor say I. Opposed.  Okay. The motion carries. The public meeting   the public hearing remains open. Now we'll open  the next public hearing on ordinance 2025-35 um article um 3.09 tree protection um is  the topic of this public hearing and we're   opening this public hearing at 3:39. So um  again um Jeff, do you want to speak to this?   just u kind of in a similar fashion. Um we see  some things we we need to plan for uh if we're   going to gather money for cutting trees down.  I want to kind of have a good solid plan for   that. And I really um that'll be in drainage and  and other landscape that we have out there. So I   just don't really feel like I'm ready to uh push  this one forward like I really need to. You know,   I w I will say we do have a tree ordinance. We  do. And I'll just remind the public that that   tree ordinance and this was a concern that the  staff had by not um by the recommendation the   planning and zoning that we that we um delay the  implementation of this six months. Um the tree   ordinance make it is it is against the ordinance  and it's illegal to cut down any tree on a lot   without a building permit and there is a fine and  it's a criminal offense. So, I'll just remind the   public that just because you think there might  be a tree ordinance coming, you're going to go  

out and clear cut. You're gonna it's a criminal  offense and and we will enforce that. So, council,   do you have any questions? I'm going to cut my  trees. Wouldn't recommend it. Chainsaw. Okay. So,   uh again, I'd like a motion that we uh hold  this. Did you open the public? I did at 3:39.   Okay. Sorry. I'd like a motion that we uh continue  this public hearing until December the 9th. I move   we continue uh 20 25 35. Yes. Uh to our December  9th council meeting. Okay. I have a motion from   the mayor pro Tim. Is there a second? I'll second.  Okay. A second from uh council member Hosia. All   in favor say I. Post. Okay. So the public hearing  will remain open and uh at that time Mayor Jones   will take this on. Okay. So the next item on the  agenda is preliminary plat of Horseshoe Bay West   plat number 39.2 Lake Church at Horseshoe Bay. Yes  ma'am. You want to talk about that? Well the the   this is a pretty routine matter. the it the one  unusual aspect has to do with the uh configuration   of the lot as it goes about that that roundabout  if you will that terminates the public dedication.   Uh it looks a little unusual but uh you know that  that is kind of predicated on a requirement that   there not be a deadend uh dedication that's longer  than 150 ft without a required turnaround. and the   people that own the church, which was trying to  accommodate the future access to the stonehouse,   didn't want to put that turnaround on their  property. And this is a way to to make everything,   you know, copacetic, so to speak, comply with all  the ordinances. Now, the Stonehouse has frontage  

on that roundabout. And and if they want to  change that in the future, they're free to   do that whenever they're ready to actually build  something that complies. So it may look a little   unusual, but this is how to make it safe and and  compliant. Good. And there are some the chairman   of the building committee and the pastor. Any  any of you want to say anything about this? Well, we just want to record again our  appreciation for Roy and the staff and   all that they've done city services uh to make  this process as easy as it can be and for their   thoroughess. It's been great to work with  them. Thank you. Thank you. We're anxious to   get started. Well, yeah, I'm sure. Yeah. Okay.  Uh council, do you have any questions? Okay,   we're ready for a motion on this. I move  to approve proposed preliminary plat   of Horseshoe Bay West Plat West 39.2 Lake  Church of Horseshoe Bay as presented. Okay,   I have a motion. Um, is there a second?  Second. Okay. Is there any questions? I didn't open the public hearing. No, I closed I I'm sorry. I closed  one at three I left it open,   but I don't think I opened this public  hearing. Did I? I don't believe I did. So,   I'm I apologize. Let's go back and we'll  open the public hearing at 3:44. Um,   and if there's We've already had the discussion.  So, um, council, do you want to speak? Yes. I've never known a pastor who wouldn't stand up  and talk when he was given the opportunity. You   sure you don't? Okay. My apologies on that.  Council, do you have any questions? Okay. So,  

we did not vote. Um, but we're going to  close the public hearing at 3:44. And now   I am ready for a motion on um ordinance  number 2025-34 which is the there's a   suggested language on port page 70. I was  confused by your motion anyway. I'm read on page 70. Oh no, no, no, no, no. I'm sorry.  motion. I was on the right. Yeah, you were. You   were on the right one. Okay. You want to make  it again? I got to get to it now. I move that   we approve what I already said. How about that?  Does that work? Um, okay. To approve the proposed   Linu Plat of Fores Bay, West Plat number uh W  39.2 Lake Church of Horseshoe Bay is presented.   So, council member Hosia made the motion  and second. Second from Mayor Pro Tim. Now,   any questions or discussion? All in favor say I.  I. Opposed. Congratulations. With a lot of goofing   up on the mayor's part, we got it done. So, thank  you very much. We won't have you kick around. You   won't have me to kick around anymore. That's  right. Okay. Let's move to ordinance 2025-34. Um, reszoning approximately 43 acres.  Um, and I'll let you talk about this,   Roy. Yes, ma'am. Uh, this is near the Oh,  wait. This is another public hearing. So,   this is uh we're opening at 3:46. Thank you, J.  This is a zoning change for some improvements to   the uh the existing racket club. Uh there are  more improvements that that are planned that  

go outside the boundaries of this property, but  these particular lots are where those town houses   that were demolished a few years ago used to be  located and they're still in that residential   district. So this is basically just to incorporate  that property into the same zoning as the rest of   the the Racket Club so they can proceed with  these improvements. Okay. Um, is there anyone   in the public here would like to comment on or  ask a question about this reszone? It's that's   the property at Free Rain and um Yes, ma'am. That  corner. It It's already part of a parking lot,   but they're going to reconfigure the parking lot,  build a new clubhouse, build some new courts,   bunch of little things like that. Looks  pretty nice. Council, any questions? Yeah,   I like this. close the public hearing at  3:47 and we are ready for a motion which   you might find on page 70. I move to approve  ordinance 2025-34 as presented. That's a motion   from council member Hosi. Is there a second?  Second. Second from council member Weatherbe.   All in favor say I. I. Opposed. Okay. Thank you.  Through the public hearings. Now let's move on to   um ordinance 2025-30. And this is amending  the fee schedule for the city of Horseshoe   Bay's court code of ordinances. And um you  can talk about that Jeff or Yes, we do. Okay. So every year in September we come back to the  council and talk about um schedule of fees that   we ch need to change for the next year. Uh we've  gone through this with the council um previous   workshops and um we have gone through and changed  everything um that we needed to be changed which  

included a lot of fees that were associated with  um development services and I'll let Roy touch   on those in a minute. But also we also had a water  uh fee of 9% increase and uh the sewer rate stayed   flat. The water uh fees for taps went up by 15% uh  due to cost um to make sure that we were covering   recovering our cost. Same with sewer taps and same  with uh sewer um grinder pump fees. And those are   generally pass through cost to the customer that  building the house. But those did not affect the   customers. The 9% did affect the customers. And um  let's see if I think we have a we have a we don't   have a list of that what the cost difference is.  I'm sorry. I apologize. I thought we had that in   here, but we do not. This is what we discussed in  our workshop. Yes. Yes. This was the direction of   the counselor to put that in there. I can't  we can't read that. I know it's really hard   to see that. Uh but and that's not that's not in  our package. There were fees and I'll I'll kind   of let Roy kind of go through some of the fees  on the development services on that to kind of   go through there. We changed some fees from uh  deposits to straight fees because we were really   kind of just dealing with money and turn around  and giving it back and so we kind of came up with   the fees and if you want to talk about that a  little bit. Yes sir. There there were lots of   goals here than when we analyzed this, but one of  them was to eliminate what I would call the labor   intensive process that might have been just fine  when we didn't have a very high permit volume,   but that was just absolutely killing us now  that we did. Uh there are certain things that we   outsource where it's important for us to recoup  those costs. major developments. For example,  

we we don't have a city engineer. We have to hire  that. Uh when Doy gets involved with a project,   we'd like to recoup that cost. But for regular  old building permits, that's just not really that   that difficult. There's plenty of data out there  that tell us what what it's going to cost us. So,   you know, for regular building permits, we just  wanted to to uh you know, convert to a straight   fee except to separate the the fee into a review  fee is and a permit fee so that we would quit   incentivizing poor applications. uh you know  the very commonly we get applications that   are not complete and we have to review those  over and over and over again and we haven't   even collected a nickel you know and we're just  basically subsidizing that and more importantly   incentivizing those poor applications. It's it's  to their advantage to not put much effort into   it and and place that burden on us. What what  this does is change that, create a a review fee,   and that every time it's turned down, you get  to submit a new fee that's half as much again   so that we, you know, from now on, we hopefully  get better applications. And if we don't, that   cost is placed where it belongs. And and that's on  the applicants back. Uh the chart that you can't   really read very well is simply uh a request for  us to go line item by line item and compare what   we're doing. What it will show you, and I can  print you out one, is that believe it or not,   it it it went down in as many cases as it went  up. I I'll give you an example. We were we were   charging for manufactured homes based on the the  size of the house when in fact the inspections,   you know, all that's all ready to go when it shows  up on the site. Only thing we really inspect is is   the building of the front porch and and hooking  up of the of the electrical and the plumbing. So,  

the idea that it would grow because of the size of  the of the manufactured home was kind of unfair.   So what we did was change it to a flat fee that's  quite frankly much lower than what it is which is   more fair because you know this is supposed to be  reflective of the time we actually spent. So that   that's what we did and all our adjustments are in  that category. One exception uh we want accurate   drawings so we kind of lowered that on purpose so  that encouraged people to submit when they change   what they build out in the field. We want them to  give us good records of that. So, we changed that   to from I think it was $100 down to 25 in hopes  that that would encourage them to give us those   records so that we have better records for for the  new owner of the house or whatever. But it's uh   you know, the the other ones are are fairly minor.  Uh you know, the uh the some of the the zoning   applications in particular uh were not really  reflective of the number of hours. So what we   did was we we looked at them individually looked  and see how much time we were spending and when we   were subsidizing that to an extent we raised them  but it turned out that most of those increases   were very nominal. They're not very large and I'll  make sure I distribute this for y'all so y'all can   see it. It does not include the new fees. Uh there  are a lot of things that that are in our ordinance   for us to do and and perform that quite frankly  weren't listed in the fee schedule and we of   course corrected that. Some of them are a little  bit strategic. For example, y'all heard me talk   about the need to start collecting for the impacts  of these developments on future road improvements.   in anticipation of ordinances doing that, we've  we've included fees to cover that when when we   start requiring that. So, you'll see some of those  in there like uh traffic impact analysis fees.  

You know, when right now we only require those for  very very large developments, almost never happens   and they go directly to text dot. We we want  to change that. We want to look at every one of   them and and make sure they contribute their fair  share. That's not included in this ordinance that   we're looking Well, the review fee is not, right?  So, I mean, obviously, if we're going to start   reviewing those things, we'll we'll hire a traffic  consultant to do that work and we need a fee to   cover that. So, so my my question here is this is  the start. You're going to have more recommended   fee schedule. I was surprised we didn't already  have this. Yeah, a lot of it we didn't have. Now,   the other thing that's very different here, if  you've ever looked at the development services   fees, they're kind of just randomly thrown in  there in a list. They're not organized in any way,   shape, or form. One of the reasons you have so  much red line from us is that we reorganized   it. We put all the zoning fees together, called  them zoning fees, subdivision fees. So, this this   little chart shows you the existing fees and what  they changed to. Does not include the new fees.   Good. We will make sure that you get a copy of  this as well. So, can I ask you a question on   the uh recommended motion that's in our packet?  It refers to exhibit A, but we also have exhibit   B and exhibit C. Do we need to include all three  of those in our motion? The ordinance number. So,   you just need to say that orance number it  says. Okay. Okay. So, don't say don't don't   don't particularly say appendix A fee schedule.  No, it's all under the ordinance. Okay. Just   the ordinance. Okay. Should be just approve  ordinance 2530 as presented by staff. Okay.   Thank you. That that makes sense to me. Does  do you does council understand what I'm saying?

I had a quick question. yard light repair. Right  now it's $50 per plus materials and and then it's   going to be removed from schedule. Yeah, we don't  actually do that work. I'm not sure who does,   but it's definitely not us. It's the  thought I was going to get a free No. No,   that's that is not that's not our that's not  our Yeah, that's a holdover from obviously   once upon a time we did it, but Well, the  city requires a 911 number, but we don't   require yard lights. That's something that the  POA requires. Yeah, you do. The POA does. Yeah. The 911. The 911 number is the city ordinance. Oh, is it? It is required. I didn't know that.  The city ordinance doesn't say we'll repair it,   but well, we don't Okay, we don't repair  them. So, okay, we'll come fix yours. No,   I personally will come fix. Does anybody else  have any questions? Okay. So, um with that that   um clarification on the um on the um motion  to be made on page 83. I need a motion.   I move to approve ordinance 2025-30 as presented  by staff. Thank you from the mayor pro Tim motion.   Is there a second? Second. Second from uh  council member Morgan. Are is there any   further discussion? All in favor say I. Opposed.  Thank you. Motion carries. Okay. A consent agenda.   Did is there something? Yes. Oh yes. Yes.  Yes. There is. Okay. I just wanted to say,   you know, part of that cleanup was really to  try to uh clean some things and make things  

better organized and provide better cost of  service to where it's supposed to be. So Jeff,   I have one question. Do you remember what the  average uh increase the 9% what that reflects   on the average customer bill? I remember that  we had that on the workshop. Um Ollie, do you   remember? Was a dollar$ dollar 482. Yeah, it was  a$148 I think a month I think that's it. Okay. So,   we're going to move to um item 9B, Summit Rock  Public Improvement District Payoff. Jeff? Yes,   ma'am. Um the city currently has agreement with  the Summit Rock Pit that provided uh the city   payment for city provided utility infrastructure,  including components of the water distribution,   water treatment, wastewater transmission, and  wastewater treatment systems. The agreement um   predates the city's written impact fees and served  as the same purpose in compensating the cities for   cost of existing facilities or uh in this case  also to build the 750,000galon elevated storage   tanks in the Summit Rock property. Part of that  was that we had an agreement with the original   um Summit Rock that we memorialized in a pit and  that agreement was for a total of 7.4 million   worth of infrastructure which included that $2  million for the elevated storage tank. um that was   to be paid from the summit rapids initial payments  from the $2,800 collected from each lot owner   um through the years the 15 years that they have  that. Um so this agreement has been going on uh   for many years and um we recently discussed with  Mr. uh Jordan Jaffy about possibility to paying   this off because part of this has an interest rate  of no less than 7%. Um and so it's costing them a  

considerable amount of money. Um it was good for  us to have the money uh back to do because we have   a lot of capital projects coming up uh within the  city and so we just thought it was a good deal for   both. So we just started having the discussion.  It was agreed that we would get a repayment. Uh   so we started about a month ago going back through  and um the original $5.4 $4 million that we had on   the books. Um we've we've received um a certain  amount of that money and the remainder money uh   between those between the interest u that was owed  on that u ending balance and the um the principal   was uh 3.147 million66. And so, um, we worked  together with our legal counsel to, uh, create a,   um, ordinance to an agreement to transfer  the funds over and also during that process,   we would transfer over, um, the administration  of that summer pit from the city. doing that in   from internal staff to a group um that is called  municipal cap who does administrations and they   also do one for the um Escandido Escanido PID uh  and and they do a great job for that and um for us   it was a much burden for us to do that that type  detailed work and so we included that in the uh   transfer over um there are three documents in your  package. The first one is the Summit Rock District   improvement claimment agreement, which is to uh  pay back the uh $3.1 million to the city and uh   close out that uh fee that is owed to the city for  their infrastructure. And then the u the second   one is a service agreement plan that the city has  with Municap which will administer the the PID and  

uh provide annual assessments to the city um that  we would have to approve and then um third one is   a me a u is the service plan update. I'm sorry I  got that in out of order. And that is requirement   of the um the state that u every year there's  a service plan update pre and a provided to   the city to approve. And the last one is a Summit  Rock custodial agreement um that we just received   today. Um and I think our our attorney has uh  Do has approved that if I'm I'm mistaken right.   We're gonna we're gonna look at this tomorrow and  then we will provide it to Jordan after that with   the uh with the changes if we have any changes on  the next so it'll be on October agenda for that   custodial okay for this custodial agreement. So  what we're looking to do is to close this out. Uh   we will bring that custodial agreement because we  did not have that ready for this council meeting.   thought we would uh but we had to go through some  hoops to get that. But the other three agreements,   we think those are good. And if there is anything  that comes back out of the agreements because   there are in the hands of um Mr. Jordan um  Jaffy and he's working through that, but we   don't think there will be any. But if there are,  we will bring that back in October for revisions   to that now. Okay. So, council, this is I think  y'all you are you know what's going on with this.   Um the city has to remain involved because of the  fact that it requires involvement of municipality   but we're not uh when you said an assessment  on the city um there are no assessments on   the city. This is all a pass through. Yes. So  yes. Yeah. The pit is a pass through basically   to the developer. Uh the only thing with us we  had uh put in um like a impact fee uh when you  

buy into the city you buy into the water plant  the wastewater plant the existing infrastructure   all developers will do this u but back in the  day when we did this uh we first became a city   was about three years in before we had impact  fees this was our our way to secure that money   through a pit payment back to us. So we were  assigned uh the first $7.4 $4 million of the   pit assessment. Okay. I'm tell you as the uh  financial liaison when I was on the council,   this is probably the thing that finance  department dislikes the most. And so I   think we'll be very happy to have this thing  in somebody else's hands with unicap. Council,   do you have any questions? it uh if there's  a hiccup on the custodial agreement,   it it will not affect the rest of the agreement.  I don't think I don't think it will. I think it'll   be a no provision though. The county collects the  pit assessments on the tax bill and we're working   on a resolution for the county to pay those uh  collections directly to the trustee. That's what   um this agreement doesn't have. So, we're working  on that so that it's going to take the city out   of receiving the money from the C county and then  having to pay it to the trustee. Basically takes   us out of the the steps before we were going  to have to invest it in our our bank accounts   through our policy and then turn around and  write a check out. So we were able to do it this   way with agreement of the county. Any further  questions? Okay. So we're ready for a motion. I move to approve the three enclosed documents as   presented by staff and accept the  final payment of 3,ion147066.74 for the city summit rock pit related  infrastructure payoff. Have a motion from council  

member Morgan. Is there a second? Second from  council member Wadell. Any questions or further   discussion? When do we get the check? Well, once  we get the custodial agreement hammered out and   bring that back in October, then we'll close out.  Okay. Check's not in the mail. I imagine they'll   not bring put that they won't mail that one. Okay.  Um, council, if there are no further questions,   all in favor say I. I. Opposed. Wait, did you Oh,  I'm sorry. You said I. Okay. Opposed. Okay. The   motion carries. Thank you, Jeff. Now we're  ready for the consent agenda. And council,   is there anything on the consent consent  agenda that you would like to have removed? Okay. Then is there a motion  to pass the consent agenda? I move we approve the consent agenda  as as presented. Okay. Motion by Mayor   Proim. Is there a second? Second. Second by  Council Member Weatherbe. All in favor say I.   I opposed. No motion carries. Okay. Monthly  reports. You again. Yes, ma'am. First,   I'd like to recognize Matt Meyers who worked  for Waste Management who worked with us on the   extension of that contract. Jos to prove I think  that Waste Manage does a great job. They had a few   hiccups. They fixed those hiccups and uh we looked  at our extension of contract and uh we really felt   like they were a good solid company and work  with us very well. So, I wanted to recognize   him being here for that. Thank for being here.  Okay. And then um is there any committee things   that you have that you know of? Um um I was  gonna Oh, you want me to Yeah, we've got that   on here first. Council liaison, do do any of you  have anything from your committees that you want   to bring up? Uh do y'all want to talk about the  20th anniversary um celebration committee at all?

What they say? The 20th uh anniversary celebration  is still on. I'm excited to say that we have a   number of dignitaries who have RSVPd that they  are either going to be here or they're going to   send an emissary in their honor in their place.  And uh we've got uh a full slate of vendors and   I believe we've collected if I'm not mistaken over  $45,000 towards the um trail itself from donations   in addition to that. So, thank you much and uh  October 25th just want not only the the committee   uh heads here and the other people serving with  them but Adrian Maple over there and Cindy Sharp   um have worked very hard and continue to work  very hard on this and I think it's just going   to be awesome. I mean they're how many how  many vendors did you say are there? 42 40 40   or so room. I mean it's a weight. It's it's just  gonna I think it's going to be a lot of fun. So   um we'll have we'll have music uh the 43 vendors  u you know a special program a presentation of   flags and things to former mayors and um it's  going to be quite the quite the experience.   I think each one of the vendors donated something  of some value that instead of collecting a fee,   they provide something for the folks to come  in and get selected for prizes, drawings,   have a raffle. Okay. And uh so yeah, it's going to  be a great event. And we've got transportation and   buses and so forth. That's right. Yes, sir. To  the site. Yes. We we'll have a lot more in the   in the newspaper coming up pretty quick. Uh but um  you know it's coming to a code very very nicely.  

Good. Great. Thank you. Okay. One thing Cody, why  don't you give an update on specifically the good   thing is we did lose no customers lost water, but  there was some major problems discovered. Yeah,   it was a trying day Sunday and Monday for our  operations. So we ran into a couple of problems   with boulders and electrical lines right  next to our water pipe. But like Frank said,   we never lost pressure in the towers whatsoever.  Not even at any point where we even close to that.   Uh never lost any water at any homes. I will say  yesterday when we uh did the official tie-in and   get everything repaired, couple homes around  the street probably lost pressure a little bit,   but that was about it. That was a minor hiccup out  of a major event. So yeah, everything turned out   good. Explain the PEC issue. Um, essentially, uh,  the way these things were laid back in the day,   and Jeff referred to this to me, this is a  common thing he's seen since he's been here,   is it was laid, I'm assuming, probably mid to  late 70s. Back then, they didn't regulate things   the way they do now. Um, we had two 4-in PEC  electric lines laid right next to our water mane,   about one inch gap on both sides. Um, the safety  of my operators became a major thing. uh had to   get the uh veterans to come up from Houston to do  a line stop. Had to uh get with PDC in order to   turn that power off. So, we were able to cut our  pipe out with uh our safety of our guys intact.   So, that's what caused a little bit of the delay.  Wow. Not to mention that there was boulders laying   right on top of the rock that caused the rock line  to break in the first place. Yes. So, there was,   you know, basically shoved a lot of things back in  the ditch. unfortunately and eventually they will   wear back and forth on the pipe and cause. It's  not the first time in that area we've had a leak,   but it's probably been a good 20 years since  we've had one there. Probably won't be our  

last. The point I want to make out of that, it's  not only we were able to do that, but I'm sure   Cody and his group is going to find additional  issues throughout that same area. Yes, sir.   It's something we live with for a long time. It's  the first time these guys had to deal with that.   Unfortunately, I've been here for a long time  and it's happened many, many times, many places.   And we just know going into it that when you're  busting around those lines that you can't take   anything for granted. Was this part of the uh this  this was not related to the installation of the   new pipe going from central up to the up summit?  Is Okay. No, ma'am. Isolated incident. Okay. Thank you. Thank you for fixing it, Jeff. What  else? Um, I wanted uh Tim to talk a little bit   about his street program and kind of where  he is. Tim, you want to touch base on that? So, uh, good afternoon, Mayor and Council. We  completed the interior roads and the seal coating,   uh, for this year. We have Bay West Boulevard  left. So, in front of y'all, I put a map. We   are going to attempt give it our best effort to  do Bay West Boulevard at night. Uh, if we do it   during the day, it's going to be approximately 12  to 14 days. We think we can do it at night in six   days or six nights. So, uh, that's our our next  project. We're going to start that uh, October 1st   through the 8th. We're not going to work on Friday  nights, but we will come back on a Sunday night.   you know, in case Cap Rock Clubhouse has  anything going on, we'll stay out of their   out of their way. Uh, so, you know, we we did a  test run on Hello, which is a street off of Bay  

West Boulevard, and it dried beautifully. So, we  don't anticipate any issues. Okay. And whenever   you're doing one side of Bay West Boulevard,  the other side will remain open. Yes, ma'am. So,   we're going to do from uh Applehead Island up  to Florentine halfway through that intersection   because that's so narrow. It's only two lanes.  We're going to do that all at one time. Uh and   then when we come down from Camp Rock to 2147,  we'll do half of the we'll do the inside lane one   night, we'll do the out outside two days later  or the outgoing. So, so on this on this map,   this brought This part right right up here. Is  that apple? Is that apple head? No. Oh, that's   nola. Nola gut. Nola gay. Okay. So, everybody can  still get to their homes. Alternate routes. So,   they'll be able to get off the island by going up  fault line. Okay. Uh so, they'll be able to get   out. The only people that are going to be affected  are people that actually live on the boulevard   or the streets that are off of the boulevard on  the on the night that we're doing that side. So,   I plan on starting tomorrow again going right  back to what we just did and passing out maps and   explaining to people, you know, unfortunately,  uh, after 8:00 at night, you'll have to stay   home or Horseshoe Bay midnight is 9:00, so this  should not be an issue. I'm not anticipating it   being an issue. I mean, we had many bunko games,  lunchons, doctor's appointments, hair appointments   that we navigated around. What day of the week  or the seventh and the eth? Sorry. What day of   the week is the seventh and the eth? I'd have to  get my little calendar. It is. I'm just curious.   Okay. So, it's not the weekend. Okay. All right.  Well, that's I think that's a great idea, Tim.   and we'll see how it works and hopefully people  will appreciate that extra effort you're going to  

hopefully. I'd like to say y'all did a really  good job. Unbelievable job so far. Thank you.   Thank you. And the uh road reconstruction project  is coming along nicely. We shifted from the south   area out to west. Uh we're making progress  and trying to keep the fire department busy   uh with a little help from our chop  saws. But uh it's coming along nicely. We started the fire. Oh, you did? Yeah. Oh, well,  but they put it out. Cutting cutting steel. Yeah.   Um Well, thank you. And um you know, one one thing  that I know we've discussed and I I do recommend   next year. I do think that in the in the coming  year, we need to go back and and look again at   our at our policy because we've had this um what  is it? Seven houses per mile. 12 houses 15 houses   per mile. 15 houses per mile. We've had that  a long time. Yes, ma'am. And um there are some   some streets, some homes, some residents that have  been waiting a very long time. And um so I I think   it's time that we go back and re-evaluate that  policy and see if we need to make some changes   and improvements that make it fair to those. I'm  waiting a long time. And I know you have a great   feel for that. So yes, ma'am. I'm sure you'll have  some good look forward to working with you and   uh we'll get it we'll get it resolved. Yep. Good.  Thank you. Do y'all have any other questions? Jim,   you're not going to blast, but just Tuesday  nights, right? Tuesday night's we're going to set   off the dynamite. Yeah. Good. Okay. Just Tuesday  night. This guy. No. No blast zone. Okay. Jeff,   only one other thing and that is our uh town  hall uh next Thursday night or Thursday evening   at Thursday. Was it 3 o'clock? Ain't that right?  3 o'clock. 3 to 5. Yeah, what you told me. 3 to   five. I'm sorry. Got too many too many dates in my  head. But um you know, we will have like we have   every year, we'll have all of our vendors there.  They'll have gifts and things to give out. They'll  

be there for anybody to talk about anything  in within the city. Uh we'll have a program.   We'll talk about the accomplishes that we had this  last year. And then uh we'll also get public input   on some of our initiatives that we're pushing in  our concerts plan. So we definitely want a lot of   people there to give us some public input on that.  So we're going to have our department heads there,   not our vendors. department heads, council  members, uh city manager, mayor. That's the   25th. Yes. Yeah. It's next Thursday. And it'll be  at Quail Point this time. Yeah. Okay. Um I would   like for Jason, if you wouldn't mind, to give  the council a heads up on what's going on with   the deer trapping because I know that's coming  up probably before the next council meeting. So, currently we have four traps  that are set up and ready to go. Um,   we've applied for the permit. We're just  waiting to get that back from the state. Uh,   we anticipate that we'll begin on October 1st.  Okay. And how often will you move the will you   move the pins around, Jason? Or just kind of  depending on I think it just depends on what   we're catching. We're getting limited in the areas  that we can trap um because they're building out,   but uh I feel pretty confident that most of the  traps are in a good a good place that we can get   uh get plenty of of deer trapped. So So, you  know, just wanted y'all to know this was coming.   you know, it's the more humane um plan that  we did last year um where they catch them in   a pin and our staff takes them down to Johnson  City or Santa Johnson City. Johnson City. So,   okay. Thank you very much. Do you all have any  questions? What's your target this year again?   Uh 350. So, we already starting over like are we  through last year and starting this year? Yeah,  

it it'll it'll go from October to the end of March  like it did last year. Last year, we didn't get to   trap in October because we hadn't received the  traps yet. So, we're pretty excited to see what   October does this year. They're out. Yes, we um  Okay. Um is there you have anything else? Um okay,   then uh we are going it's 419 and the council Can  I just say one thing? Yes. I'm about to move into   executive session. Something that Frank mentioned  about the wording of the tax rate, you know, it's   like increase when it's not and I mentioned to  you that I think it' be good to put in your letter that this is what's going to happen, but this is  what it means or you're going to get flooded with All we have to do is add that explanation that  DY said then it makes sense that the way it's   written is a disaster. But we can't do anything  about it. We you know it's been pub let me just   say I mean I I have no objection to doing that.  It's kind of in my view it's mustered after the   meal this year because we just passed the  the ordinance and it's been in the paper.   It's been published um and it's been published  that it was an increase in the tax rate and I   been flooded by any I think everybody's used to  it and they realize that it makes no sense and um   but um you know I haven't decided what I'm going  to write but if I'm desperate I might bring up a bunch of information okay okay all right so  we we will we will address that thank you very   much okay so it's 4:21 the council is going to  move into executive session um to for the annual  

evaluation of the city manager under personnel  matters um Texas government code 551.074 and a   petition uh for release of 332.81 acres from the  extr territorial jurisdiction by uh Horseshoe Bay   Resort Destinations LLC and that is under Texas  government code 551.071. So, we will not take any   action in executive session. If there's any action  to be taken, it'll be after the executive session.   Um, but unfortunately, um, you guys can't stay  in the in the chambers for that. So, um, Yeah.