City Council - Regular Meeting

Yeah, it wasn't that bad. Sure. I didn't I had no idea you got beat all last week. I just told her I just told her tag her in I just told her I would if I could. She knows I'm having

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I guess I'll let it go tomorrow. Yes. And Lory's the right person to come to discuss it. I know what it is. Are you on? All right. Wow. All right. You went from no quorum to special meeting to full everybody.

Uh a reminder while we're sitting at the table, when you get the meeting deal, please click yes or no on the RSVP even up to the last so that she has it. Okay? because it's getting difficult not to know when she doesn't know because I'm calling her asking her. Gota. So, everybody says something to everybody, but let's make sure we punch it. All right. Um, first thing on the agenda is we want to Jake, you want to come? You can take the

So, Jake Myers is here to talk about being a new member on our direct board. So, um, this would be So, we have your address already. I won't make you go through that. All right. You just confirm you are a property owner in our great city of Robinson. Yes. All right. So tell us your interest in serving on the

uh well uh whenever the bull came up I got interested in it because I wanted to find a way to serve uh in the city capacity and I thought this would be a good way to kind of get my feet wet and see how it goes. It's funny. I told my youngest who's now 10 today uh that I was going to be interested in it and he started asking me every day, "Dad, are you on the parks and rec?" So hopefully I get to tell him yes I am. for a long time. I get to keep telling them, "No, I haven't heard back yet." Uh, but I look at Peplo Park and I see a lot of opportunities there. Being a coach of my other son's uh soccer team, we're using the field in front of the primary school right now. And I think there's an opportunity there to maybe build out maybe a small soccer pitch, even if it's half a pitch, or some other ideas. Uh, I heard somewhere that the Lions Club was looking at doing a splash pad. I can't speak on that fully, but But I mean I think there's a lot of opportunity and and different things that can be done to really

the u the time constraint is meeting about at least once every three months. I assume that there's no constraints on you. you understand that that's the um kind of in what you just said, you might elaborate any a little more about what you're what you envision the future of the city of Robinson where it comes to parks and wreck.

Yeah, I think with uh I think with parks uh we we have a good foundation with Peplo Park. It's a it's not a bad park at all. It's got a great walking trail. Um, I can see some improvements in maybe the basketball court or uh updating some of the playground equipment, maybe some safety measures in there and then just maybe adding some other stuff that would really attract more families into the the city and then also get them to come out to the department. So, as a member of the board, you'd be required to attend a board orientation, commission orientation. Uh, I assume you could meet those requirements. Yes, sir. Um, I don't have any other questions. Does anybody at the table have any questions for Jay?

I I got I'll start. Um, so, um, Parks and Rex. So, let me say something for ask the question. So, limited budget, and I say limited, next to nothing, right? Um, limited staff. There is no park staff. So, um, you know, the vision for parks and reccks committee members is to fill in and help execute, not just honestly for the city. Feel like volunteering and being a part of that, gathering more people. That's something you'd like to do be a part of. Yeah, definitely. Hands and feet more so than, hey, that's a great idea for y'all to do.

Yeah, absolutely. Uh we'll definitely have to get a you know hopefully that it's it's a good foundation team that can really start collaborating on not just with uh what can be done and you know volunteer hours getting out there. You know I'm already thinking uh for volunteers you can pull in uh I know the cub scouting troop uh here in the town they can get some service project hours that would be a beneficial win scouts as well as get some work done. So he's he's into servant leadership. Oh yeah that's what it is. Any other questions? Okay. All right, Jake. Thank you for your time. All right. We appreciate

it. Jason is not here yet for the phone interview. So, we're going to leave that. By the way, I've been instructed by behind me to leave to leave these on the table when you get up their personal information on so she can so she can pick them back up

because I'm sure there are 8,000 reasons in some code where you get in trouble. Um, all right, let's skip on. Uh, if he shows up, we can do that. He showed up before 6:30. So uh anybody any issues with the uh minutes from the past meeting and the rate the special meeting etc etc. Okay. Um we want to consider a resolution to deny the encore delivery company the application to change the brakes.

So this is a continuation. I'm gonna let Craig kind of say what we're continuing on to. This is the next step in our continuation of saying that I guess. Sure. So this is uh you in uh June seems like a lot more recently in June but

in June we did the uh took the action at the recommendation of the um steering committee on these to take that what did we do and that was a rate suspension and give time to look at this. So what Encore has done, they've done their initial evaluation, not Encore, but the steering committee has done their initial evaluation of everything, assuming preliminary talks and everything. And so their recommendation for all member cities is to at this time deny the rate increase that will then kick in the process through the PUC where they will sit down and renegotiate something that works better or encore has the option to request hearing before the PUC. So that's typically the way this goes. And then once that happens, something will get negotiated and probably end of this year, after the first of next year, we'll come back with this is what the new rates will actually be and they're usually less than what the original. That's historically been the way it is. So this is just this is the recommendation of the steering committee. They've asked all of the member cities to do this.

So does this go to arbitration after this? If if it's denied it it depends arbitration then we don't vote on it again. We don't have

what whatever they whether it's through arbitration well PUC so it's it's not exact but when it goes through the PUC through their hearing committee or um negotiating whatever that final agreement is and that will come back for approval and then typically as part of the process we do agree to approve that. So because if you choose not to approve it, then you break yourself away from the steering committee and you're on your own. And then if you then if you challenge it and it goes for the PUC, you got to get your own attorneys and you got to go spend huge amounts of money to go back and forth. So that's kind of why the steering committee came along because only the biggest cities, Dallas, Fort Worth, Houston really had the wherewithal to challenge these kind of rate increases.

All right. How often? I'm sorry. How often has it gone to a PC? I don't recall. I don't recall anytime it's ever I'd say every time. Right. Well, no. I was going to say I as far as you know them

them going to there they've usually been able to negotiate. I mean, you kind of get in this situation with these kind of things where, you know, going in no one's going to get exactly what they want. And so you kind of see what's the scenario where we're going to get the best case for both, you know, as win-win as we can get. And that usually comes through the negotiation because when you go the other way, our side may get less than we were hoping for. Rates will be higher or they're going to risk potentially go the other way. So So typically it gets taken care of through the negotiation. All right. Any any other discussion on that?

Okay. The the next item is the U agreement with the animal birth control clinic. Did everybody peruse through the agreement that was included in your packets? Does anyone have questions on the agreement or how I could I could ask for the cliff notes version from Craig if you'd like it? Sure. The the agreement itself is pretty cliffnotish. So yeah, it's it's two pages. Yeah. Yeah. So, it's no two. You're right.

It's pretty short and sweet, but it's just basically we talked about that the animal birth control plant will assist us with the community cap program and then in return we will we will provide funding up to a total of $10,000 for those services. So, this this will be a recurring budget item. We don't know yet. See how the population goes. Well, yeah, we'll see how we'll see how many people it may go up, you know, because right now our main focus is over there. The mayor and I were talking today. Seems like the cats must have heard this was coming. It's gotten really disappeared from social media like just went out in that area except today. Yeah, I saw one today. I did. I did. I did see same neighborhood. Yeah.

Does it say I didn't I didn't ask. Some some cat had three kittens and the Oh, I did. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Kittens are in the yard and but I didn't see if it was in was it in the same neighborhood? It was not. Well, I don't know that. I think that the biggest I I think here to to Master George's question, I think the biggest thing here is how far seeing how far this $10,000 goes and how long it lasts. That's what I was going to say is, hey, are they going to let us know when we're starting to run out of Oh, I bet they will. I guess I'm sure I got to think to begin with uh since it's kind of well perceived to be out of control to begin with, it's probably going to go pretty quick to begin with.

Are we going to have a running catnap thing going? Okay. We They've already had a head start in that neighborhood. They were already doing operations. Yeah, they were. Yes, they were. Yes, they were. They talked about it when they came. They were already occurred before they started. Okay. So, the fee schedule's on the bottom. We kind of see what it's going to cost. You know, they basically have a line of credit from us and they're going to use it as they fix. So, if anybody if you don't have any objections to this agreement, then I'm sure there's accountability as far as how much of our money is being spent in our city and all that. I'm I'm pretty sure they would have that. I'm sure we're going to every time they give a

It's not just a big pile of money that they can use is what I'm saying. I'm assuming that they That's a bad word to say. So, I'm assuming that they're going to give a list of what they did for payment. Kind of like an invoice. Invoice. Okay. They will invoice us for the services provided. We're not going to just give them a check for $10,000. We'll spot check those people. Hey, did you have a cat? Yeah. All right. Okay. So, I don't hear anybody that is not in agreement with the agreement. So I'm going to include that in the consent agenda which has kind of already been put there anyway in anticipation.

The last thing that we will talk about now which I don't want to this has been talked about before even with me and before that before that is our city outdoor warning system. To the labor the point one more time we have two sirens. We need 17. The two are tired and dead pretty much. The 17 cost $3 million. And as Craig and I talked about today, I just I I'll start with my opinion and then everybody can give that. How about that? Um, you know, we have the the 911 reverse. What do for the city? You can sign up for

county's official name. It's the um system through Everbridge.

Everbridge. Okay. So, I personally, my opinion personally is that obviously three million bucks to put some sirens out here is a lot of money that we don't have. Number one. Number two, um I think our phones are a much better way of reaching people than the siren. Anyway, we talked to Craig and I talked we we we did kind of burn this up a little bit today, but you know, it's when when people hear the sirens, it's well, Waco sirens going off. Why your siren going off? and then your siren's going off and theirs is not going off or we can't hear this or we can't hear this. I think it's much better a smaller a way smaller amount of money and much better served if we just try to get every all of our citizens to sign up the program because your phone is obviously with you most of us 247 you know the Amber alerts it works you hear you're in a restaurant you know goes bananas if you got it on the emergency management

yeah there there's all the phones have two alerts they have the amber alert and then the emergency alert if you have the emergency alert on, you're going to get the National Weather Service alerts and all that, tornadoes on the ground. Yeah, there there's sometimes uh well, it works real effectively because last May of 24, my wife and I were in Scotland when all that really bad storms were going on and that night the tornadoes hit south of us and one up here and I'm sound asleep and my phone sitting nightstand and it starts screeching at me and it's bouncing and I pick it up and I get everbridge notifications about tornado warning Robinson, Texas and all this other stuff and I'm And so I'm pulling I'm pulling up my Ring cameras because it's,

you know, it's two o'clock in the morning there, but it's sunsale out here. My trees in my yard are going like this and and all that. So it's an effective notification system. It works anywhere. But yeah, then I had I contacted Destiny the next day and said, "Would you drive by my house and see if it's still there?" And so she sends me this picture of this giant tree on a crushed fence and is like, "Is this yours?" And I'm like, "Yeah." So,

can I also add something? I know we've had issues before in the past because the sirens are set off by the police department and they are not subject matter experts when it comes to the weather. And so, there's been some some crazy confusion that has went on when trying to decide whether they should push the button or not push the button as far as the sirens go. My understanding of of these warning systems is they're outdoor warning systems. They're designed to alert people who are outdoors. So if you're in your house in a car, whatever it you're not likely to hear I'll sleep through the I never heard them. I have not slept through an Amber Alert yet.

Amber I have Amber Alerts off. Yeah, me too. It was way too emergency alerts on Amber Alerts are off. I I I still have them on and I I punish myself. I I won't sleep to death. I want tell you what, being being a restaurant when one goes on. I don't know if you if you remember, was it last year? Robin, no. They had that national test of the emergency alert system on our phones and I was at TML conference and I was in the exhibit hall when it went off. Oh lord.

And there was probably 2,000 people in there and everybody's grabbing their phones. It's just I mean it was it was deafening. So it it definitely it definitely worked. It's just you know one of the things we talked about the difficult part is number one it's changed and so people are used to sirens. Um David's done surprising do these two sirens to replace the two sirens we have now. It's whatund and something thousand a piece.

Yeah. Close to that. So, if we wanted to go ahead and keep those just because they're kind of in the center of town where more density is, we could look at doing that. That would be a little more doable than three plus million. Um, also, if you looked at that map, you'll notice that some of in order to get full coverage of the city, some of those sirens are actually located outside our city limits, which means we have to acquire land in order place to put the the pole and all the other stuff. So, um, I mean, that's an option if it would make people more comfortable to still have at least something But um but on ballot I'm sure people would say streets rather than Oh yeah. I was going to say that was my my last part of that was going to be I can imagine.

But it is important that we have have a warning and that people know what we're using for a warning and and one of the things we even talked about was for those you know there are still a few people out there that may not have a phone and so their phone can't go off. There are the weather alert radios and I know sometimes when they turn their phones off at night off, they're not going to get that. No, no, you're not going to get it. That is a you know that's but if the siren I agree. Yeah. But if a siren three blocks over goes off, they may not hear that either. So true. I'll say this. There's no fail safe 100% way. I'm in favor of pushing Everbridge and getting people to sign up.

That that I do do favor. Uh, but I just want to play double that for a second. I know that that city of Liberty Hill just lost a city manager because of their failure to alert and set off warning systems when that flood came through Liberty Hill when it came down to San Gabriel. Um, Kurville um their immense pressure was that they didn't do enough. They had sirens but not enough sirens. Didn't activate them soon enough sirens. There's any time there's they did not have time. They did not have but the the The other side of it is there was a huge push in those communities to upgrade

that because they had floods about 20 30 years ago really kicked off had they already had some pressure. SE Hill had no no casualties from the flood and the city went on and it was priority for them and so their their guy stepped down under that pressure. I can't remember. But uh um the there's just a lot of after the curbal floods, there's a lot of push for warning outdoor sirens and warning systems, especially along the rivers, but just want to put that out there as we consider this. I'm in favor of the Ever Bridge. I'm a technology guy, but I know there's a lot of people there.

I mean, we obviously obviously it's something we can easily put the information out to the public and go, "Okay, look, here's we want to know. We've been very transparent in the last 11 months and very much going, hey, look, we just want you to understand we have two sirens. They're toast." The reality is also we don't have $3 million and we don't have $3 million to put these up here. But if we could get everybody to participate in the thing that that Craig can finishes thought on the on the weather alert radios for the people that don't have cell phones, the older folks that are way retired on up there. And um I like it when he looks at me and

I just accidentally looks at you glanced at me too. That's my favorite. By the way, I do have a weather alert radio. Oh, I do. I give it to you. You do. I don't I have one, too. There's no doubt. But to make some some kind of way we can give those away to those residents, you know, if we bought in bulk and I'm sitting up here and the resident comes to us and says, "Hey, I don't have a cell phone. I'd like one of your weather radios." and just make that's another way of of telling you know I think the public look we we we do want to make sure that everyone has some way to listen since we don't have three million bucks to go putting all these in there

some way to incentivize these people to download the app and we have somebody look into that because being warned isn't enough incentive for them it's like you can get $5 all right I don't Destiny do you know how many people are there's no way to know how many of our People are signed up on that. Yeah, I can. You can. I'm not. And we do occasionally have people who want to get off of it because they get irritated by how often they get notified. So, you just can't win. I have the weather channel app. Let me tell you what, those fellas can calm down a little bit. Yeah, they can calm down. I had to turn those on notifications. Don't you love it when you're watching this show and then then KBGX spends three hours on talking about what's happening about 200 miles away in your

Mhm. You know what I mean? Hey, look. Those weather guys, they back from Rust. I used to tell Rusty when I'd say Rusty, you you just take a good storm so you can be on TV for an hour and a half. Come on, man. I love this. Can we please? We want to watch. We're trying to watch something. 30 minutes, 25, 20.

Yeah. But but I can tell you that a lot there's been a lot of times here Now, I don't get up and come here two o'clock in the morning, but we've had severe storms coming in kind of around the end of the workday and uh we'll hang around. In fact, there one a few years ago, Chief Smith and I were standing in dispatch and we were watching KWTX and they were like, "There's, you know, potential tornado forming here. It's here. It's going this direction." And we were sitting there looking at the map trying to figure out where it was at and everything. And Waco was setting their sirens off and everything. And we have people calling us why know why we weren't setting our sirens off and but if you looked at everything they had it was going east and it was all north of where Primrose connects to 77 up by the traffic circle.

So there was no reason for us to set our sirens off. But that's one of the things we were talking about is everybody just assumes if one place turns them on and then chief well he I don't know if he's been chief long enough to have encountered this but just start. I mean, I I've I have been in I've been in law enforcement since 1983. And even back then, every time the sirens went off, dispatch got buried by people calling wanting to know why the sirens are going off. And you know, we're out on patrol and rooftops from sheds are blowing across roads and sirens are going off and people are going, "Why are the sirens going off?"

So, so it is a mixed if you're outside and the siren goes off and you look up and you see something yet. I mean, it's a great one. somewhere like Oklahoma City where they have the audio, they can come on and tell you exactly what's going on. That's great. Where was that at in North Texas? Plano or one of those cities. Out of nowhere, you think? God. And you hear this this voice and it's a very professional National Weather Service type voice talking. Scary one.

Yeah. Okay. And they need that. And you know, I I grew up I grew up in the military. My dad's in the air force. We lived in Hawaii for four and a half years and right across the street from us Hickham Air Force Base was a warning sign and every month on the same day 10 o'clock for some reason it's always 10 o'clock in the morning. On the window of yours there was always 10 o'clock in the morning. They would test those things and they would go through the tsunami warning, the conventional attack warning and the nuclear attack warning. And we get to sit there and listen that thing run for about four minutes just and each one had a different tone. So, yeah, I'll fix.

Uh, okay. So, we got five minutes. We need to get up there. So, we will stop this conversation and I'll get Destiny's info and we'll just kind of see everybody can have a little bit to think about it and we'll have that conversation. So, 6:25 we'll adjourn to the I can figure out what the tax increase for $3 million.

put my name on. I think everybody here knows we do have a qualum. Two weeks ago they didn't. So we would like to invite Sure. to give us our invitation. Uh before I pray, Don, before I pray, if it's okay, Mr. Mayor, I would like to share something. Absolutely. I'd

like to tell tell a really quick story. Um Sunday after church, we had a a missionary and his wife at our church who were kind of presenting some stuff, giving giving us some facts, some figures, some things where they had been over the course of the last year. And as we often do, went out to lunch, went down to Lasatas, closed them down, came out. It's been a long time since I've been able to say that I've closed anything down. Closed down, lost topas, came out. We're standing in the parking lot and talking and one of the police officers um drove by and and stopped and visited with me over there and kind of called me over and I and I went over and he said, "I don't know if you've noticed, but he said, "Sometimes there's a a homeless man who's who's over here kind of on the porch of in front of uh I call it the old Piggly Wiggly because I'm that old." And uh I said uh um I said, "Yes, sir. I've seen him. I've noticed him over there." I said, "Is he is he okay?" And he said, "That's what I'm trying to find out." He said, "Nobody's seen this man. Nobody nobody knows what happened to him. Nobody knows where he is." And he said, "So I just wanted to let you know, keep your eyes open if you don't mind." I said, "Absolutely will." So I turned back around to our missionaries who both live in Southeast Houston. And uh one of them said that the the husband said, "Was everything okay?" Okay. And I said, "Yeah, just one of our police officers checking on our one of our homeless guys in town, making sure, you know, doing a wellness check, making sure he's okay." And his wife immediately said, "That's why I love towns like this. I love being a part of a community where our first responders, our police officers, care enough about the folks who are going through a difficult time in their life to actually go and check on them, make sure they're okay." And I and I love that story.

I wanted you guys to know that that's what our community is about. Lord God, we thank you for this opportunity tonight. Not just to tell stories, but Father, to come to you, to recognize our great need for you, to recognize, Lord God, that you provide what we lack. And what we lack so very often is wisdom. Father, I pray that we are not seeking after our will to be done tonight, but for your will to be done for your kingdom and for this community. I pray, Father, that you will continue in every way possible to provide your wisdom for these city council members. I pray, Father, for your protection over our first responders. I pray, Father, for our teachers, for our schools. continue in every way possible, Lord God, to use those folks who have placed their faith in you, who are walking with you, who are trusting you, and continue, Lord God, to help this community to be a community, a group of people caring about one another, recognizing that we're stronger together. All this we pray in Jesus name. Amen.

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Yes. Thank you for the opportunity to come and visit with you tonight. I bring greetings from the Greater Robinson Chamber of Commerce. I barely made it here. It's been a day. But anyway, I'm here and I was here last week, too. Um, so our next board meeting is going to be on the second Tuesday of next month. I don't have any idea what day that is, but y'all can figure it out. You got a calendar. Um, our next quarterly networking lunchon, however, I do know the date for that, and it is this Thursday, and we would love for you to come join us at Tajun at noon. Um, we are going to have a speaker and I can't remember what his name is from Action Coach and Designs by Denise is going to be our business spotlight. We give our business spotlight five minutes to speak and then our speaker uh about 20 minutes to speak and we have an opportunity to network and get to know one another a little bit and it's a great time. We'd love to have you come and join us. Um, uh, the next event that we're involved in, it's not actually our event, but it's the, uh, Robinson Area Lions Club's Halloween in the Park this Saturday. Hope it doesn't rain. Um, from 5 to 9, I think 5 to 9 or 9:30 at Peplo Park. So, they're going to have a bit of a spook house and they're going to hand out candy and do face painting and the volunteer fire department's going to have a bounce house or something. It's going to be lots of fun. It was really well attended last year on the very first year and this is our second year to do it. So, it'll be great fun. Um, our Christmas parade will be December the 4th

and beginning at six o'clock. Registration is open already. So, if anybody wants to register to be in the Christmas parade, you can do that through the city um website. And uh on another note, talking about Christmas, and I'm going to turn my hat again a little bit. Uh poinsettas. Wink wink, Misty. Um the uh Robinson Airlines Club is going to be selling poinsettas again this year. Um, they are going to be the larger two quart pots and they will be $15 and we're taking pre-orders whenever you want to order them. So, we only have a limited number to sell. So, if you want them, get your orders in early. Thank you.

Thank you. All right. Uh, consent agenda. We have three items on the consent agenda. uh approval of the uh meeting minutes from September 16th and October 7th. The action of denying Encore electric delivery application change rates in the city of Robinson and to take action on approving the agreement with the animal birth control clinic to provide traffic service. Motion to approve agenda item. All in favor?

Okay. Our first regular agenda item we heard from Jake

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number 10 we will have to pass on because that candidate will not show up. So we will move to number 11 and continue our discussion from the workshop on possible action regarding the city

are signed up. Wow, that's way some of those can be duplicates like they're in the same house. Um and then some of them might be commercial businesses that sign up for our area because they work here. There's some that's [Music] utility customers. We have about 5,400.

You have some wonderful facts. Well, I mean, yeah, I can just fill in the blanks, okay, after y'all's discussion. Um, so the two warning systems were purchased used from Army Surplus about 20 some odd years ago. I don't have an exact date. So, we have the same

pretty much. Um, and to add to I guess the questions that you're considering whether to replace them or not for uh just to replace the two that we have now to get back to where we were with the used systems would cost. Um, figures in here around 190,000. I think it's in the neighborhood of 90,000 each plus the three or 4,000 for the control system over at PD. And that gets us back to where we once were with two working sirens. Um, but that also puts us back in the, you know, roughly 8,000 a year for the maintenance. Um, there's 16 speakers, there's eight amplifiers, there's four backup batteries that are $1,200 each. The current rate in all of this equipment's obsolete. That's the problem. It's just dated. We can't have them come out and replace a few amps and whatever to get them going again. They need to be completely replaced, including the wooden post. It's like a utility pole. Uh, and I know the one on Tinsley's warped pretty bad. So, probably adds another questions if we want to just maintain the two that we started out with. Um, as I said, the whole thing needs to be replaced, including the pole. So, is this the locations they're at now the best location for just two? Um, so there's, you know, there's a lot

of questions council need. Yeah, that's why you said they're pretty much [Music]

tried my first couple years here last year. Even even the possibility shop.

No, there is none. They're obsolete. That's right. The current problem is most places. Unfortunately, doesn't replace two new ones.

You've done the research. What's your We all What's your Well, I mean, from a staff standpoint, as Craig kind of mentioned, uh, when we test them, I've never gotten any calls, any inquiries, why are they going off? Why are they not going off? Um, and uh, yeah, sure. Yeah, maintain maintains the This is a this is a factather opinionated discussion.

Decision ask.

All right, Steve. What's your My opinion is same as city manager is that everybody has a cell phone in their hand. I like the Everbridge idea pushing that out. But like he said, when these do go off, if people hear them a lot of times they'll run up run outside to see what they're going off for, which is probably not the best thing to do. Um, we get calls when we test them. And if we test them and they don't work, we get calls, why aren't they going off? They're supposed to be going off at 10:00 a.m.

And here lately, they haven't been going off because of the the problems we've been having with them. So, I mean, from a public safety standpoint, I think they were great 20, 30 years ago, but now with everybody having a cell phone in their hand and and the information that's pushed out on those, I I really don't see the the need for sirens, especially based on the cost of them.

See what's going on. I thought they were coming. I needed to mow in a hurry before it started raining. Well, you know, we do live in the state where you hear a tornado.

And and he points to the storm um the last one we had where, you know, the tornado was close by, but it was not going to come by our city. So, you don't set the alarms off and then people are, "Hey, I hear the Waco sirens. Why aren't ours going off?" But Waco Emergency Management can actually set zones on the Waco ones and they're only going to set them off on this certain zone with the path of the tornado or whatever it may be. So we get those calls like why aren't they going off when they should be? They really shouldn't be. But so we're kind of fighting two battles. They're they're either call

Yeah. It's just going to be in that path of where the tornado's headed. So only that path is going to get the notification instead of Mlennon County for example. [Music] I don't have anything.

I can't ever bridge too. It's a work 91 and we can some of us on staff go down [Music]

about fugitives on Would that just start the phone ringing? You know, that starts a lot of phones ringing. We found out from this town in this townific at least started somewhere around Troy and ended up in our cemetery on off 35. We didn't know anything about it. Sure.

What would be the cost for

Yeah, I'm I'm still I'm waiting to hear back from Bearcom. Yeah, because [Music] on that. I mean, I've asked them to give us a a price on what it would take to remove them. Um, other than the pole, there's a lot of wiring and stuff going on.

Um, and uh, also if there is a value to what's left. tried to see our social media ladies do a really good job social media pages but they're very important. What if we after today what we told come up with let's teach people about ever. Let's put it out there. Let's get a bunch of people sharing and two weeks from now when we come back in the room. We could say, "Okay, just in a two week time, we did this on social media, told everybody where to go, how to do it, maybe post it by two time, and then saw what the impact was. We went from 2200 to

does it can we reach these people this way? Are we going to have to do something different? Are the people going to buy into that explain why you kind of sit here at the front. Um, the girls always encourage customers to sign up for it because that's how we notify them of water turnoffs or major water leaks or road closures. Um, we have it on social media at least once a month. So really the only difference would be that we may have special posted you guys.

Yeah. Like really we're really trying to get we want to try to get we could just we want to try to get 100% of our residents on this program just to see what kind of because I was think You're never going to get anybody.

So would it be illegal to like when someone signs up for a new thing to have to do the code sign up? What's your question? If a new customer sign up for service, they have to That's the same question. Can we check off? It's free. We have there are people that just go city.

You have no water. We have water here. Can you can you stay signed up and turn the alerts off? Snooze. Yeah, I deliver quietly. You can turn off which alerts you get.

I'm thinking from a liability standpoint, right? They may not appreciate, but standpoint, no one can ever come back and say the city said we're going to sue you versus Everyone that has a significant Just wonder if the other one come in audio. It's a It's a voice message. I like Greg's idea. Craig Wonder

have a question. This this is going to go off of what Jeremy focused talking about liability and also these folks who may not be tax and so that being said we have two

well I If we do that as long as there's something I don't know for this I don't what if we worded this to the public based on I'm not saying this is the word I'm saying based on the current replacement count for a siren that our city council feels like we would like to see our residents sign up for the telephone electronic warnings and then such another way back we're going to remove our two sirens from the city that are inop your way now to get alerts is by going to this and signing up to this. This is how weather warning in our area does the state mandate specific type of alert system. They aren't mandating a specific system.

You can't be held liable if you don't have a system. The jury might disagree.

They don't have to go back. We have almost to you. I appire the smallest radius. They don't broadcast across the entire city. You got to be pretty close. But for a certain amount of resate liability, [Music] I'm guessing that's

Yeah, I would imagine they're an upgrade to what we have. This was done several years. [Music] [Music] Yeah. I don't know.

Let's see. in a certain time frame. There's some people I know that population You're you're only you're only helping very small percent of the population $200,000 again. You put those When we first started this couple years now,000. Okay. So, Let me let me suggest this. Let's see what location.

It's like it's like everything we do, no matter what we do. Always put one on top. There's one on top. Let's do this. Let's up. Then let's get an opinion on would they be better in another location serving how many people could we take two if we only did two. How many people could we serve with those two in the right location?

How many people could we serve four? Bring that information back. And I would still like Destiny's social med. to see if we can't just do a little more do between now and our next meeting in a couple weeks just we can do a little more education on hey if you haven't done this here's how you sign up this is encourage you know just whatever we can do they do a good job and we also Okay.

They're not getting weather. So for this app, you can put this and this [Music] the tornado [Music] sign up. All right, we're gonna move on. Thank you. Okay.

Thank you. Uh does anybody have anything they want to add to the next agenda? I promise you

we are going next Thursday agenda will be I mean Tuesday agenda will be on November 4th which is election day and it will be the agenda that we had to pass on

268 pages. Before we make sure you do possibility that I mean it wouldn't work.

We have several that would be the only concern. activate the siren. You may siren.

All right. Anything else? All right. 706.