Commission - Regular Meeting

his name. Come here. How are you? [Music] There you go. call to order the September 15th, 2025 Wilson County Commission meeting to order. Thanks to all of our guests that are here tonight and invite you to come back any opportunity that you have. This time I will turn the prayer and pledge over to Commissioner Cosley.

Thank you, mayor. Good evening, everybody. Um, first before I call my my friend up here, I would like to ask that we observe a moment of silence. Uh, in light of the events going on the past week and all the events we've had of of the crimes against political figures and what's going on in this country, I just ask you to join me for a moment of silence. Thank you. At this time, I'd like to call up um Pastor Charles Allen, Bowling Springs Baptist Church, Baxter, Tennessee. He's also the uh local vet at Cumberland. Well, he's not a vet. I don't I really don't know what he does there. Uh he does something at Cumberland Animal Hospital, but he's a good man, good friend of mine. Thank please rise. Let's pray. Heavenly Father God, I thank you so much for the opportunity to come here and serve you in such a way. And Father, I just pray for these men and women, Father, that you've called, God, the ones that that you've named in Romans 13 to yield the sword of righteousness, Father, to to maintain order in our communities and to keep us safe. And Father, I just pray for them that you'd protect them, God, as they uh as they navigate times like we've never seen before. And Father, I just ask that you'd be with each one. God, I thank you. I ask that you would give them vision to seek your will uh at this time as they meet tonight, Father, and that they would do so in a way that pleases you well in Jesus name. Amen.

Amen. At this time, if you'd turn your attention to the flag, I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you, coach. This time, if you will press your yes on your panel, record your presence tonight's meeting. Commissioner Brown is uh out of commission tonight, and uh I have not heard from Commissioner Denton, but I do not see him. He's out tonight. Okay. Thank you, sir.

23 present. 23 present, two absent. This time we'll have public comment period. At this time, this is not the one that is located about the resonings that we have tonight. This will just be public comment period if anybody wants to speak towards uh the uh just anything about they need to talk to the commission about. So at this time, if you'd step forward to the back, state your name and address for the record, this is your time. Thank you, Mr. Mayor, commissioners. Uh, my name's Perry Neil. I'll keep this very, very brief. Uh, lest I uh stick my nose somewhere it doesn't belong here. U, I just want to make a brief comment about the uh, step systems and, uh, it would appear to me that maybe the residents of the county u, need something better than what we've got existing. How how to get better. I'm I'm going to leave that up to you guys. But I just think that what we've got currently going right now, uh, we need something better for the people that are having problems. We need something better for the people that are going to have step systems coming down the road the next two or three years, which is probably where I'm in. You know, we're probably going to have some in our neighborhood, and I hope we do something better in the future. Had a chance to meet Mr. Murphy outside. He's a great guy. First time I'd ever met him. He's a great guy, but I just hope we can do something to improve our step systems going forward. All right, got that out of the way. On a lighter note, I want to mention about the Crossroads Ballpark coming up Saturday, the 50-year reunion. Invite each and every one of you guys uh from uh I think it's 3:00 to about 6:00. Uh going to have free hamburgers, hot dogs as long as they last. Got tons of inflatables for the kids. So, if you got kids or grandkids, bring them on out there. We uh going to give a special shout out to Mayor Huddle here. We're going to have a dunking booth. And guess who's going to be front and center in the dunking booth? I'll be there

and we'll all be there and and on that note, we're looking for more volunteers for the Duncan booth. So, uh, Commissioner Dow, but anyway, I'll volunteer right in front.

Well, thank thank you guys for everything you do. Appreciate appreciate all the work. Appreciate what y'all have done for Tucker's Crossroads. Thank you guys. Next, I'm Ken Young, 1221 Shop Springs Road. Wilson County is largely the sum total of all the decisions ever made by its county commissioners. You have important decisions to make tonight. One is the appointment of a commissioner to the water authority. Honesty and decency are necessary traits, but those aren't enough. Friendship is not enough. Not with the authority in the shape it's in now. We need someone willing to ask the right questions, willing to lead, someone with the experience to work that organization out of serious trouble. The incumbent is honest and decent. But for too many years, he watched as small pro problems grew into emergencies. And he's Chris Lieber's choice. Electone else. The good ship water authority is run ground. It's sinking. Who's on board? The taxpayer, the customer, the new school, thirsty citizens who were promised water. Voters whose health is threatened by overflowing sewer systems. We are all on board. In all of history, there's only been one person responsible for a shipwreck. Of course, that's the captain of the ship. The captain of the water authority is its chairman of the board. The mayor suggested that a deck hand return here to explain why the good ship water authority hit the reef. No. Only if you're okay with another song and dance would you ask the executive director to come back here. And yes, he

has much to answer for, but his appearance would be a waste of your time when there's no time to waste. You can't fire him or promote him. You can't tell him what to do or what not to do. That's for the water authority board. If you want information you can act on, you must hear from the captain. What you need are straight answers to important and difficult questions. Why does Adena still have a monopoly? What started the problem at the school? Why is Tekk issued so many fines? What about the allegations of falsified records? Where did all the art money go? Why is there a threat of a federal lawsuit for polluting our drinking water? These and many more. Only the captain can explain these things. Only the captain can tell us. How did the ship run a ground? How will he salvage it? And if he can give us the confidence that he can steer us back to a safe course. The county, parents, teachers, students, and the citizens deserve nothing less. I'll take any questions.

Thank you, sir. Mr. Matthew Gwyn, are you here for the reasoning? Matthew Gwen for the reason resoning. I'm here for the reason. Yes, sir. Gotcha. Do I have a Matthew Gwen here? Ma'am. Well, it's nowhere close. Oh, that's exactly right, Diane. I hate to even admit you're right on that. Uh, okay. It says Matthew. Gwen, my bad. It says Nathan. It looks like Matthew. Okay, no more public comments and I'll shut up here. We do have another public comment.

Hi everybody. Tom May here. 9:45 Point View Circle in Mount Juliet. I wanted to bounce or just kind of piggyback off what Mr. Young said. Y'all need to bring in Mr. Chambers. Need to hear from the captain of the ship. You know, I'm a former military guy. You don't go to the sergeant and ask him what went wrong. and you go right to the top. What went wrong with the planning? Who authorized this? Who authoriz who authorized that? That's what you need to do and I really hope you do it. That's all I got. Thank you. Anyone else wishing to speak? Seeing none, we'll close public comment period. We'll move the report from steering committee. Commissioner Fields.

Yeah, Mr. Mayor. Steering committee met on Thursday, September the 4th in regular session and share conference room. A copy of those minutes are in your uh packet. I move that they be received and filed. Second. Any discussion? Seeing none, all in favor say I. Adoption of the agenda. Yes, Mr. Mayor. Everyone should have a copy of the minutes or excuse me, the agenda. I move that we adopt the agenda as presented. Second. Any discussion? All in favor say I. Consent agenda. No, no consent agenda, Mr. Mayor. Have I have we have two there? Yes, sir.

Oh, yeah, we do. I'm sorry. Uh resolutions 2591 and 2592. They both involve line item transfers. No additional funds involved. I'll move that they be approved. Second. Got a motion to second. No money involved. So, we need to vote. All right. No new money. No new money. I got you. Please cast your vote for the consent agenda. I'm going to transfer in the trustees department and the health department. Commissioner Clark. All hearts and minds good with your vote. Please record 23 and two.

23 and zero. Resolution passes. Commissioner Evans, you'd like you have a question. I I do have a question. Okay. I think that we need to um adjust the agenda to have the me the minutes prior to the reasoning request tonight. Yeah, we can do that. We talked about that earlier. I think Commissioner Fields may have forgotten. Okay. So, we'd like to move the minutes uh up on the agenda is what the question is so we can make a correction there because it deals with what we're going to talk about in the resoning tonight. Correct. I guess you'd like to move it up to right after uh consent agenda would be right now. I don't hear a motion to do so. So move

and a second. Any discussion about what we just talked about? All in favor say I. Okay. So we'll do with the minutes now and the corrections that need to be here. Commissioner Fields. The minutes committee met in regular session on Thursday, September the 4th. A copy of those minutes are in your packet. I move that they be received and filed. But before we ask for the reading of the minutes, then Commissioner Evans has asked to address the commission about a a creation that needs to be noted. Do I hear a motion to approve? I got the motion. Do I hear a second? Second. All in favor say I. Okay. Now,

Mr. Chairman, there's a fairly significant uh change that needs to be made with the minutes. Uh page four, paragraph 4. Um that paragraph deals with the uh reszone request that's uh before us tonight. Uh the way the minutes read then it reads that we approved that request last month. What we approved last month was the applicant's request to defer to this month. So I would make a motion that we uh amend the minutes to reflect that. Motion to amend the minutes to make the correction. I hear second. Second. Any other discussion? I just got them backwards. Okay,

they were both deferred last month. One was deferred by us, one was deferred by the applicant. All in favor say I. Any opposed? We're now back on regular schedule. We have no special recognition to my knowledge. Second. Motion to dispense with the reading of the minutes. All in favor say I. Okay, so we moved the whole thing up then, not just Got it. Okay, now we're back on session. We're ready. No special recognition. We'll do public hearing this time on two of them. And I'll ask a motion to go out of session. A second. All in favor say I. Mr. Christopher.

That was pretty confusing. There's only one on the agenda. Okay. My bad.

All the same. Gotcha. A public hearing will be held before the Wilson County Commission on Monday, September 15, 2025 at 7 PM in the county commission room of the Wilson County Courthouse at 228 East Main Street. Items for consideration. Application has been made by property owner McCuros Ventures LLC requesting a land use plan amendment from low density residential area to highdensity highintensity commercial area. The applicant also seeks to reszone the same property from R1 rural residential to C3 highway commercial planned use development. The property contains approximately 5.01 acres and is located at 3410 McCreary Road and is further referenced as parcel 3601 on Wilson County Tax Map 137. A copy of this request has been on file with the Wilson County Planning Office and has been available during regular business hours. Anyone here wishing to speak on this property, please step forward and state your name and address for the record.

My name is Nathan Quinn, 2925 Berry Hill Drive. Mayor Huddle, I'd like to apologize for my penmanship. I'm I'm not Matthew. So, we the the property we're reszoning is tied to a larger development that we're doing. And after talking with Commissioner Hobbs and Commissioner Evans, I wanted to just give a quick rundown of all the work we've done so far and where we're at in the process because there's significant off-site improvements associated with this. And this reszone is actually a part of those improvements. So, the picture on the left is the property about six weeks ago. The picture on the right is the property today. For reference, that's 180 acres that we're in the process of mass grading. Right behind these two properties, we expect the roadway plans just north of the bridge over Hurricane Creek all the way to the Lo's gas station to be approved, which will allow us to start with widening improvements and utility relocations along that corridor. that also captures flood improvements at the intersection. I'm sure everyone in this room is familiar with that intersection flooding to the tune of 8 to 10 ft and the right flood conditions. So, a part of what you have before you tonight is a part of that drainage solution to convey all of the water that floods today when the two injection wells reach their capacity and allows it to drain above ground all the way crossing the property under reason tonight and all the way to Hurricane Creek above ground to solve that problem. Separately, we're going to be widening, raising, and lengthening the bridge over Hurricane Creek. We're preparing to

submit those full engineering drawings at the beginning of October. And tonight, with the reason, we're going to be able to memorialize our drainage improvements and the piece that we deferred to be heard in the next two to four meetings. We're working with staff and the commissioners Hobbs and Commissioner Evans on the logistics to have a traffic signal installed near the intersection of Loves, which is Couchville Pike and Couchville Industrial. I know I went through a lot. Hopefully, I did it in under three minutes, but if there's any questions, I'll be glad to answer them when the items on the agenda. Thank you.

Thank you, Nathan. Anyone else wishing to speak on this property? Seeing none, there a motion to go back into session. All in favor say I. Christopher.

All right. Um commissioners, the following application is presented to the full county commission um on Monday, August 18th, 2025. That um request was deferred till tonight's meeting. Application has been made by property owner McCur IOS Ventures LLC requesting a land amendment from low density residential area to high density highintensity commercial area. The gap plan also seeks to reszone the same property from R1 rural residential to C3 highway commercial with a plan unit development overlay. Property contains approximately 5.01 acres and is located at 3410 McCree Road. As further reference is 3601 Wilson County Tap Tax Map 137. The land use plan and resoning request was presented to the Wilson County Planning Commission on June 20th, which was a Friday, and is being forwarded to the Wilson County Commission with positive recommendations for the laneous amendment and reszoning. Um some stipulations of the um conditions of approval in that resoning. I want to make you all aware of it. Um, since it is a PUD, there are four on this. Um, roadway improvements of the McCury Road Investor Road that are part of the McCury Road industrial master plan that was approved by this body on August 19th, 2024 must be completed prior um to Wilson County granting driveway access onto McCree Road from this site. This site does have access onto Couchville Industrial if they wanted to go ahead and utilize that before the road improvements were done. But the road improvements will have to be completed before it'll have access on the McCury Road as it is not currently an industrial road section. Mass grading site storm water area drains and paving improvements can be performed while the roadway improvements are in progress. Enhanced landscape screening and privacy fencing will be required along the rightway of McCreary Road. Um, also unique to this site, County Storm Water will wave formal detention requirements with the respect of this property in accordance with the

approved flood study pertaining to the regional drainage improvement requirements associated with the McCury Road industrial master plan that was approved on August 19th, 2024. Water quality improvements are still going to be required as that is a state requirement, but this is to allow the site as opposed to normal detention requirements, there will be a through drain that is in the overall drainage plan to flow through this property to get everything to Hurricane Creek once those sink holes are inundated. Happy to answer any other questions you may have regarding this resoning. Commissioner Hobs in your district is there a motion to approve the resoning. Mr. Chairman, yes, sir.

This this property is integral to the larger development that was approved last year on on Mccur. Um, and I would make a motion that we approve this request subject to the stipulations just read by staff. Second. I got a motion and second. Any other discussion now? Seeing none, are you ready to vote? All in favor say I. I. Any oppose? Let the record reflect it was unanimous. Thank you, Mr. Christopher.

Yeah, I do not have anything else for I do want to make you all aware that our public meeting for our land use plan will be at Alumni Hall, Cumberland Alumni Hall, and that is September 25th at um 5:30 is when that's when the doors open. You all will be getting an email at the end of this week, and I encourage you to forward that to as many people as you wish. and I encourage you also to attend. You'll have a great night.

Thank you. Uh Miss Amanda Cook from the BSmart um county um lead on u gun safety put a gun safe lock on your desk and uh it's there for you. And if you know any of your citizens that would like more, please let me know. And she said she'd be glad to get them to you. Also, just so you know, Mr. Daniel Samson has been added to the parks and recreation advisory board. Um and that's in place of Mr. Will Smith who uh resigned just recently for some other job opportunities. Um I will give you just an update here if I can. Tde you're having a resolution in front of you tonight uh that asked Tekkenas and the water authority to work together to take care of your school system. Uh they actually got together the next day uh and have made appropriations. I heard from Joshua Jenkins with Adenus. I heard from um Britain Dodson from Tekk and today got a call from Joe Hadex. Uh so they are working to free up the school system from the Adenus issues that are with the uh other part of their violation. Everything will stay in place just like it is. The only difference is they're going to put a meter uh on the um the sewage that comes out of the school and just that amount will be put back into those drip fields there. So we only get ours and so TD deck is working. I still would ask you to pass your resolution tonight, but we appreciate them coming together. I also got a conversation with the Brad Harris is with Tekk as well. So those those are positive uh progress that have been made there. Um and I want to address u Mr. Murphy's appointment that you're going to hear in just a few minutes. And from my seat um where I sit at when I look at appointments um and and there's two ways this works. one, you have elections and I'll bring you a recommendation just in case you don't have somebody in mind and then you vote and do that and you're

fully in charge. You're fully in charge on both of them really. Uh and then the other one is an appointment. I give you an appointment and then you can confirm it. If you don't confirm it, then I got to go back to the drawing board and get you another one. Well, Miss Holder uh was in here that time and um I had no issues with Miss Holder, but I felt the pressure of the commission pressure or the will of the commission to say we would like one of our people on there and that night I was fine with Commissioner Kurts being a part of that uh and got on that board at that particular time. We made that move that night. Tonight's a little different for me. Um I have um you know, as I look at the appointments and I don't want to get sideways with Mr. Franklin, me and Mr. Franklin talked today or Michael Swope sent me called me uh back recently and said, "Hey, u uh I would like to see somebody else put on there." And he give me a name and and he gave me several several listings of why he thought somebody else ought to be on there. Uh I know me and Mr. Perry Neil had that conversation as well. Uh and I know Zindle said he got a call from Mr. Young that he would be, you know, talking about tonight nominating somebody else. When I look at appointments, I I do call and find out does the person show up for meetings or do they ask hard questions? And Zinda works for us at the expo center and he's come to me and asked me hard questions before. So, I think he can ask hard questions. I don't know if he does them for sure in the meeting or not, but when I look at this problem that we got, I I look and and I've actually pulled u every one of of the step systems that are in the county uh just because you can go to T dot and and T deck and pull each one of them off and find out what the problem is. And I asked Chris Luber, which is sitting back there, to come next month and address you. And what I'd ask him to do is he's told me that they have made some pro improvements. One thing they did was to hire a person that actually just going to look at Adenus uh and just the step systems all together. Uh the next thing that he said they did was they was going to require now anytime a subdivision

goes in for all the soils to be built on the whole subdivision regardless if they do them in four or five phases. They're going to build them all up front. The next thing he said was that they're going to ask them to have 50 50% more soils than what's required which pushes it from a 300galon minimum they have today to a 450gallon minimum. And I said, "Well, I would like for you to tell our commission that." Now, I know we was referred to a while ago as a deck hand, and maybe the captain needs to come, and that really doesn't bother me one way or another, but when I look at where I'm at, I think you could replace the whole board if you wanted to, but until these changes are made, uh, that's where the problems at. And me and Commissioner Franklin talked today about the, you know, working in the urban growth boundary and and the competition there and and that's been handled by Lebanon, hadn't been handled by Mount G yet, I don't think, but but those are things that can be worked out. So when I look at Mr. Murphy, I stand by that appointment. I'm not here to argue with you or argue with anybody else for that matter, but I look and I stand when he stands on his own two feet, that's who I stand with. And um and and I don't if I thought that taking Mr. Murphy out would make a difference and make our problems go away. I'd be glad to do that. U but I don't feel like that. And that's why I stay with that um stay with that appointment. Uh again, I don't want to be at odds with you at all. I just want to kind of tell you where I was on that and how I feel about uh the people that I point. Um I will let you know this too because I think it's important. The ones on that committee uh which Mr. Murphy frees up, he's an atlarge member. Uh Mr. Comr is the finance which is required for a finance person. Mr. Chambers is an engineer which is required. U Jeff is in industry and commerce which is required. Uh and Mr. Curts is a lawyer. So, those are all spelled out. It has to be somebody of that nature. Uh, Mr. Murphy's is an atlarge member. Uh, and so it could be um anyone in that district. Um, I'll answer any questions

if you need me to on this. I just wanted to get Michael Swespome. Um, he w he wanted his wishes told to you tonight, so I wanted to get that in there as well. Anything from anybody from me? Thank you for that. We'll move on. Elections and appointments. Um, do you have a notary list in your to hear a motion to approve them? Move to approve. Second. Any discussion? Seeing none, all in favor say I. Chairperson, you need to elect a chairperson for the next 12 months. Do I hear nominations? Move. Second. Second. Any other nominations? Thank you. All in favor say I. I.

I thank you for this honor to do this for you. Uh, I really do. I just want you to know that from my heart. Commission chairperson pro Tim. Do we have a motion to nominate that person? Second. Any discussion? Any other nominations? Move nomination seats. Second. All in favor say I. I. Any opposed? Committee elections. Now, at this time, you'll need to elect four budget members uh to serve. Uh and the floor is open for nominations as we speak. Nominate Tommy Jones. Nominate us. Tommy Jones. Nominate Diane Weathers. Diane Weathers.

Justin Smith. Justin Smith. Any other nominations? Wend Marlo. Second. Mr. Wendle Marlo. Move that nomination cease. Second. All in favor say I. I. No need to vote then, are they? Yeah. Negative vote. Now you got them in there. Those are your four of them. Okay. If I only have four, I still have a paper back. Cut it off. So to approve those four. Oh, I thought that's what we did. Um motion to approve these four for your budget members. All in favor say I. Okay. Thank you. Go to finance committee.

Need motions for finance chairman. I'd like to nominate Beth Bowman. Nominate Captain Gosley. Nominate Robert Fields.

Who's there? Nominate Blake Hall. Move the nomination. Oh, we got one more. We got four. We got four. The nomination cease. Any other nominations? Who nominated Hawk? Who nominated Commissioner Hawke and Commissioner Chandler? I got four for the nominations. Um I had a nominations to cease. So we'll vote on that first. All in favor say I. Any opposed? And now to vote for those. Commissioner Bowman, Commissioner Costley, Commissioner Fields, and Commissioner Hall for the finance committee. Motion to approve. Second. All in favor say I.

Fair enough. Okay. Ethics committee. You are to confirm my appointment for five members to serve a one-year term on the ethics committee. Upon your com confirmation, I would like to appoint Commissioner Jeremy Rich, Commissioner Jeremy Hobbs, Commissioner Chris Dao, Commissioner Rick Brown, and Mr. Earl Ray. Move to approve. Any discussion? All in favor say I. Water authority board appointment. You are to confirm my appointment of one member to serve a 5-year term on the water authority. I would like to recommend for you, Mr. Zindle Murphy. Motion to approve. Second. Discussion. Ready to vote? All in favor say I. I. And opposed.

Okay, let's do a voice vote. I mean do a roll call, please. Sorry. fields. Uh, no, you can do it. I mean, you can do it up here if you want it from here.

Yeah, I'm sorry. Yeah. Um, yes, you can do it from there. [Applause] What's up?

Said he wasn't feeling good today. We already voted the chairman.

Sheriff Bryant is on assignment tonight. He said, and would not be here for his report, but if you need anything from him, he said to give him a call. And when he's not here to report, I don't want to prove a report that he don't give me. Got it. No, he did.

If you want Mr. Murphy to be the water authority member, then you vote yes. If you don't, vote no, please. Commissioner Scrugs, Commissioner Keith, Commissioner Breeze, Commissioner Dao. All hearts and minds good with your vote. Please record 12. Yes. 11. No. Two. Okay. Takes 13. Takes 13. Not a majority on that, are they? Okay. So, we need to revote only if somebody makes a motion on the prevailing side to reconsider.

Do what? If somebody on the prevailing side will make a motion to reconsider, you could revote, but you need 13 votes for this to pass it. Motion to reconsider. And I hear a second. Second. Okay. So, all vote on that. See if you get 13 votes.

Okay. We'll need to vote on that to reconsider and if you'd like to reconsider the votes what you're voting on now. If you just want to reconsider to revote again, you'd vote yes. If you don't want to reconsider it, vote no. Take 13 again to do that. Please cast your vote to reconsider to vote again. Commissioner Dao, Commissioner Keith, and Commissioner Breeze. All hearts and minds go with your vote. Please record.

11 minutes from now. So, we'll leave it like it is. Hey, you have to bring somebody back. Yes, you want. Yeah, we'll do it. Okay, let's move forward now with the report from the emergency management committee. Commissioner Bernard. No report. And director's report. Mr. Chief Brian Newberry.

Thank you, mayor, commissioners. Make it real real real quick. Reports in your packet. Do you have any questions? Move to approve. Any questions or comments? Yes. All in favor say I. Okay. Thank you, Chief. Thank you'all very much, sir. Report from law enforcement committee. Commissioner Kurts. No report. And Sheriff Brian's is not here, but his report is in the packet there. A motion to approve. Motion to approve. All in favor say I. I. Okay. Report from education committee. Commissioner Marlo. Education committee met Thursday September 4th. Minute during your packet. Move they be received and filed.

Any question discussion? Seeing none. All in favor say I. Directors of school report. Mr. Travis Mayfield.

How you sir?

Good evening. You have Mr. electoral report in your packet. One thing that was a late add-on the most recent board meeting there was a election for board chair that is now Joe Padilla and vice chair is Greg Hman. So those are two changes that are not in your packet. Of course you see our enrollment is holding steady about 20,800 students now. It's leveled out. Transportation, I don't know if you've heard about it, but you probably have. We're short drivers. We continue to try to recruit. We're going to conduct a survey of all of our constituents to see if they would be in favor of a three- tier start time, which would allow us to utilize those drivers over three tiers as opposed to two. We'll see what happens in regards to that. That would mean changing school time. So, we also have a community meeting on the resoning for Central Pike Elementary. That's going to take place September 23rd at Wilson Central Auditorium, 6:00 p. The communities affected will be Rutland Elementary, basically the south and the uh east side of Rutland zone, the north side of Gladville Elementary zone, and the far west side of Southside. So, those are the three areas that will be affected. Um construction update on Central Pike Elementary is progressing very well. They anticipate we will that building will be turned over us probably right after the first of the year. So they're doing a they're going really fast. Any questions?

Any discussion? I have a complaint from a parent whose daughter was a student at Wilson Central and on the day that uh Mr. Kirk was assassinated, there were students celebrating that on the campus of Wilson Central. My my question to the administration for the school board is is that appropriate own school property? I don't believe so. Has the parent reached out to the school administration? That I do not know, but I will find out. I would encourage the parent to reach out to the the administration of Wilson Central. Commissioner Breeze,

I know you're talking about a three tier system for start times. Have you announced those three start times that you're putting out in the survey? Okay. I can there's a range. Okay. Okay. So, it would be 7 somewhere in the 7 to 7:30, 8 to 8:30, 9 to 9:30. Okay. So, it' be 7:30. 7:00 to 7:30 for elementary still.

I can't answer that. And here's why. If you take the current number of routes that we have and out the both right now, we go 7:30 and 8:30. You add all those up and then instead of dividing by two, you divide them by three. So, that's where you get the most use out of all of your bus drivers by having those routes divided into three. I don't I haven't dug down deep enough to know if it would break up evenly with elementary, middle, and high, or it would be done in zones. There's a lot of different ways to do it. Ultimately, what it means is somebody's going to go to school at 7:30, a different group at 8:30, another group at 9:30, or you could say the 15 mark if that's what they wanted to do. So, right now it's just we have a we have a problem. Here's a potential situation. Is our community open to the idea of exploring this? That's what the survey is about.

Okay. Thank you for the details. You're welcome. Any other questions or comments? Thank you. All in favor say I. Thank you, sir. Report from um public buildings. Commissioner Weathers. No report. A center management. Commissioner Scrugs. No. Animal control. Commissioner Breeze, no report. Audit, Commissioner Glover, no report. Frogband, Commissioner Franklin, no report. Developing tourism, Commissioner Clark, no report. Ethics, Commissioner Dao, no report. Finance Commissioner Costley, no report. Health and Recreation, Commissioner Smith, Health Committee met on September 4th, 2025 at 5 p.m. The upstairs conference room. Your minutes are in your packet. I move that they be received and filed. Second.

Any discussion? Seeing none, all in favor say I. I. Insurance Commissioner McFarland insurance bet 28 August and 9 September at five o'clock in across the hall in the conference room move be approved. We have two sets. Is that both of them? Commissioner. Got you. Any discussion or question? All in favor say I. Judicial Commissioner Gentry. No report. Legislative ad hoc. Commissioner Costsley. No report. Planned and zoning. Commissioner McFarland planned zoning met 2 September and 9th September at 5:30. Um the minutes in your packet move be approved. Any discussion? Seeing none. All in favor say I. Rules. Commissioner Keith. No report.

Urban facility board. Commissioner Scrugs.

Second. Any discussion? Seeing none. All in favor say I. Finance director's report. Mr. Aaron Maynard,

I uh heard you last month talk about how much you don't like having things set on your desk uh the night of the county commission meeting. So, tonight I made sure there were three. I'm sorry about that. Uh the summary financial statement for August, um I looked at that and really it's almost a mirror image of where we were in August of last year. So, I don't really have anything to say on that. Uh the other two things, the reports on debt obligation, these are the leases that you approved uh the ve for the vehicle cameras for the sheriff's department and also uh for the tasers for the sheriff's department and those are considered issuances of debt. So anytime we issue debt, we have to to go over these. But fortunately, these are really simple. They are 0% interest. Um the payments on the tasers or on the car cameras rather are $37,244 uh every year for three years 2025 through 2027 and there is no cost of issuance uh on the tasers uh 0% interest. Uh the payments are uh $19,83942 basically for 3 years 2025 through 2027. Again, no interest, no uh expenses associated with the issue. So, uh now we have fulfilled that obligation. I don't really have anything else for you unless you have any questions for me.

Any question, Mr. Mayor? Report. All in favor say I. Report from the budget committee. Commissioner Marlo. Budget committee met Thursday September 4. I move they be received and follow.

Any discussion? Seeing none, all in favor say I. I. Mr. Marlo resolution 25-9-3 approving the request for Southwest, excuse me, South Wilson Sewer Access Committee to petition the Wilson County Water and Wastewater Authority for sessions of additional service. approved. Second. Any discussion? Seeing none, all in favor say I. Any opposed? It's the record reflected was unanimous.

Resolution 25-9-4 requesting and encouraging all supporting groups to work together to find the quickest solution to move an approved step system to Lagardo Elementary School. Move to approve. Second. Any discussion? Seeing none, all in favor say I. I. Any opposed? Resolution 25-9-5 directing the county attorney to appeal the judgment entered in the case of White versus Wilson County. Any discussion or comments. All in favor say I.

I. Say n. Sir. No. No. Call for notes. Okay. Let's call for a vote, too. No, you just need to call for nos. Oh, we just call for nos. Okay, so I got Commissioner Curts and Commissioner Jones. Any other nos? Yes, sir. Commissioner Weathers, Commissioner Bowman, Commissioner Smith. Anybody else? Okay. So, the majority still carries. So, there was five who said no. Got five. I got one, two, three, four, five that said no. Everybody else said appeal. Correct. Yes, ma'am.

Do we need to talk about estate? Do we need to talk about estate? No, I'm ready. Gotcha. Okay, Commissioner Marlo. We're ready to go. Resolution 25-9-6 to amend the budget appropriation resolution to make an appropriation from general fund to county clerk. Do second. Okay. Um any discussion? Are you ready to vote? Please cast your vote.

Commissioner Keith. All hearts and minds go with your vote. Please record. 23 and0 resolution passes. Resolution 25-9-7 to amend the budget appropriation resolution to make an appropriation from capital project fund to election commission. Any discussion? Seeing none, are you ready to vote? Please cast your vote. Commissioner Breeze. All hearts and minds good. Will you vote? Please record. 23. 23 and0. Resolution passes.

Resolution 25-9-8 to amend the budget appropriation resolution to make an appropriation from fund 124 to Expo Center. Any discussion? Seeing none, are you ready to vote? Please cast your vote. Commissioner Hobbs, all hearts and minds go with your vote. Please record. 23 23 and 0. Resolution passes. Resolution 25-9-9 to approve the attached grant contract between uh Tennessee Department of Health and Wilson County government.

Any discussion? Seeing none, are you ready to vote? Please cast your vote. All hearts and minds go with your vote. Please record. 23 23 and0 resolution passes. Resolution 25-9-10 to approve a a transfer to reflect a grant amendment for libraries. Any discussion? Are you ready to vote? Please cast your vote. All hearts and minds go with your vote. Please record. 23

23 and0 resolution passes. Resolution 25-9-11 [Music] authorizing Wilson County to join the state Tennessee and other local governments in amending the Tennessee state subdivision opioid abatement agreement and approving the related settlement agreements. Any discussion? Seeing none of you, you're ready to vote. Please cast your vote. Commissioner Costley. All hearts and minds go with your vote. Please record. 23.

23 and0. Resolution passes. Resolution 25-9-12 to approve WEIMA entering entering into a cooperative purchase agreement with National Purchasing Partners. Got a motion to second now. Any discussion? Seeing none, are you ready to vote? Please cast your vote. Commissioner, all hearts and minds give you your vote. Please record. 23 23 and0 resolution passes.

Resolution 25-9-13 to amend the budget appropriation resolution by approving uh one time Wilson County Board of Education budget amendment 26-2. Any discussion? Seeing none, are you ready to vote? Please cast your vote. All hearts and minds go with your vote. Please record 23 23 and0 resolution passes. Resolution 25-9-14 to amend the budget appropriation resolution by approving one time Wilson County Board of Education budget amendment 26-3.

Any discussion? Seeing none, are you ready to vote? Please cast your vote. Commissioner Curts, all hearts and minds good with your vote. Please record. 23 23 and 0. Resolution passes. Any old business to come before the body? Any new business? Commissioner Breeze,

I just have a question to you by a citizen. Um, evidently at the sewer access committee meeting that happened recently, um, the committee decided that they wanted to refund $300,000 for an issue. Um, if you go back and read our county rules for the county commission, rule number 37 specifically says committees cannot obligate the county involving money without approval of the commission. So my question is, does that committee have the authority to issue that refund without working it through the budget committee and then through the county commission? And I'm I'm generally asking that question because it was asked to me by citizen. I don't have an answer. So I guess I'm asking Mike if you could.

I'm going to defer to Mr. Mayor because that's in a reserve account that we took in for certain things to be done and it's physically impossible for them to be done now. So, I'll defer the air on that. Yeah, I didn't feel like we needed a budget movement on that simply because we're going to refund it back out of the revenue line it came in, but it may be more appropriate, you know, to run it through. I didn't

I didn't feel like it was necessary myself once it was negotiated, you know, we sent we sent Mike to negotiate it with whoever the other side was. So if we want to do a budget amendment, we can, but I can also just refund it back out of the revenue line we took it in on. Is this because since this is not taxpayer dollars and it was given as a deposit to do something and now that agreement's not going to be done, is that does that change the rule that she's talking about where that's not really it is our money, but not really?

Yeah, I don't know that it changes anything. I guess the at the end of the day, my question and I'm I'm uh I'm I'm asking Mike and I should have asked Mike before, so my bad. My question being that basically if we're if we're going to refund this money and they paid it into the uh the line that the sanitary sewer access fee money goes into, my thought was we could just refund it back out of that same line and it wouldn't require a budget amendment. That was my thought. Yeah, I I concurred with that. But I mean, if there's if we're going to get into a situation like we did on this other thing and somebody's complaining about it, running it through there, it' be safer to do it.

Yeah, I mean we can we can definitely take it back through and run run it through a bud budget amendment. So, does that answer your question to get back to them? It's going to be run back through another procedure. It does. And like I said, I don't have an opinion on this. I just had a system ask me this question at which point I'm asking. And and one of the questions I've got just speaking frankly here is are we setting any precedent here because I believe there are other departments in this government that we refund money without bringing it through here. Am I incorrect on that? I don't

what's the cleanest way to do it? cleanest way to do it would be as Commissioner Breeze has suggested or someone through her suggestion. My point is if somebody else raises that on WEMA or the sheriff's department or the libraries or somebody giving refunds, we don't want to be doing 40 or 50 resolutions each month, we refunded $2 from the library. Mr. Mayor,

well, it's it's rare. I'm just trying to I'm thinking about what Mike said. Has anybody else done this? And I I would imagine if we went back, we would find somewhere along the way somebody's paid adequate facilities tax and then probably not gone forward with the development, possibly gotten refunded. I'm I'm trying to think of where we might do refunds. There there is in adequate tax there's a particular provision for the board of zoning appeals to refund that money. Okay. And it doesn't come back through here or the budget committee or anything like that. Yeah. I'm not really arguing against what's being suggested. What I'm saying is I guess it's one of those things be careful what you ask for. You might get it. Okay.

Would it make sense to clarify the rule about this just in general? And again, I'm asking the question I'm not I guess that's a question for the rules committee, but would that be a finance policy? Yeah, it might be. We could certainly take a stab at making making one on on specifically regarding refunds, what's required. But whatever rule you make, you're always going to find something that's sitting right on the out outer edge of it that you're going to have to try to figure does this fall in that or out. You know, you would just study that and bring it back to us next month. I will I'll take a look. Okay. Commissioner Glover says that sit there and give us

answer back on. He said he'll he'll study that and get back to us. I have some other people in here uh that that it's not up there now. Anybody? Commissioner Jones, since we didn't appoint anybody to the water board tonight, what'll be the process to move forward with that? I'll bring you another name back next I'll bring you a name back next month. Mike text me and said because just because it didn't fail, I could bring Zinda Murphy back next month or somebody to you and he will serve until that time. But under the hold over doctrine commissioner in the state of Tennessee, if you're holding a position and your replacement's not elected, you hold over until they are.

Yeah. I've got one more thing. As chairman of the sewer access committee, the committee very well done proper process. We contacted the finance director and the county attorney. And I'm not trying to put that on y'all's back, but I don't know who else to refer to in a matter like that. Uh, so that's the process we went through. No, you you did what I uh what I recommended. I recommended refunding it back out of the line it came in on. So that's what I recommended. Commissioner Hall. Mr. Mayor, I would like to uh formally request that Don Chambers be here next month. Okay.

Mr. Gentry. Hey, just a little bookkeeping from the Robert's rules. When we nominate from the floor, we don't need the we don't need to close nominations. It's up to the chair. If there are no further nominations, the chair closes it. Okay. And in addition to that, for the elections, if there are four people to be elected and you only have four, the chair basically says they're elected by acclamation. And you don't need a motion on that either. Thank you.

Okay. Just for future references, we don't elect very many times, but when we do, we always get that motion to close nominations. If there are no more nominations coming to you as a chair, you can say nominations are closed. Thank you. Thank you. And tonight it happened pretty fast and I thought you guys had already made your mind up. So that's reason I just I I was a little lost myself. So thanks for clarifying that for me. That's the way Robert says to do it and Robert's a good guy. Three votes when we didn't need any votes. Yes, sir. Okay. Thank you. You may have to school me on that when we get through here just so I got it right. Commissioner McFarland,

you said you'd bring a name back next month. Can the honor name be nominated from the floor? No sir. No, sir. Cannot. It has to come from the mayor. He appoints shall confirm. Okay. And we and that's what I was trying to say earlier when we did with Commissioner Kurts. There was only one. I've had two or three names given to me and I need to go back and study those before we do that. Uh because like Mr. Murphy, he represented the Statesville area. Uh and that I thought that was important. Commissioner Smith. Mr. Mr. Chairman, I guess my question is going to be, are you going to bring his name back next month, Mr. Murphy? I do not know that yet. How do you, I guess, gather or when will you know that? How do you how does that go through?

Well, I had his name mentioned and and you guys were not you just didn't approve it tonight. You didn't necessarily kill it. You didn't approve it. So, then I had two or three names mentioned to me in the meantime. So, what I will do is go back and again look at qualifications and I I try to spread them out as much as we can. doesn't have to be, but like uh you know, we have Commissioner Kurts is kind of towards the Tuck Tucker's Crossroads area. Mr. Murphy's down in the Statesville area. Uh I've got Comr's at the 231 area. So, I looked at those today to kind of see where everybody was when making that call, but I'll do that. Yes. Thank you. Yes, sir. Commissioner Kurts,

I just uh first of all, thank the commission for placing me and confirming me on the water authority, and I feel like I need to address a few things. Um there's a lot of things that uh play into the fact of our school being held hostage and that's basically what happened. Correct.

Um that school not opening and and I'll say this and if they're watching they're watching but I feel like Tekk held that school hostage from opening. Um there are some um fault uh on other parties. I think there was some overwatch on the water authority and uh I met with Mr. Luber and I suggested that we have an individual uh watchdog Adenus. I think Adenus uh also uh has a lot of fault because they were supposed to correct the system uh 17 years ago and it hadn't been corrected. Um there there was also a change in some plans along the way for on-site versus off-site. Um and and I'll say that I sit right next to uh um Zindle and uh the the unique perspective that he brings to the water authority is he's one of the few even sitting in this room that don't have water at their house which is a very unique perspective and I you know to to think what needs to happen and what need doesn't need to happen. I have a vote um and I cast my vote, but I think everybody needs to understand that um I think a lot of this centered around the school and the school being held hostage. Um and that that's it's it's not necessarily anybody's fault inside this county. Um I I blame Tekk because they gave permits and then they reiged and they took those back. Um, I have it sitting on my desk at work. So, for all of that, um, I I think, you know, for us not to consider the mayor's nomination, um, and and I would even say I would step down and resign, uh, if we could go backwards, um, if that's what it took because I think that, um, how it went down the last time, maybe not was the best way to

set a precedent on how we do things. Um, I think that I've I've been effective on the water authority and some of the things, but if that's what it took to back up, I would do that and we could put Miss Holden back on. I'd be happy to do that. Thank you for those comments. Anything else? Anybody before we go home to

Thank you'all. Thank you, sir. [Music] tomorrow.

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