Board of County Supervisors - Regular Meeting

Historic site highlighting Prince William County's role in the American Revolution featuring soldiers, loyalists, and experiences of African Americans during that period. We brought the Virginia two hundred and fiftieth traveling exhibit to the Manassas Museum and the two hundred and fiftieth mobile museum to the Rippon Lodge, both of which highlight Virginia's foundational role in America's independence. We work with partners to refresh the Kings Highway trail markers along the eastern corridor of the county and created a virtual tour in conjunction with the new signage. Our focus on inclusion challenges us to create environments and opportunities that are accessible and welcoming to everyone. In 2025, we hired a new therapeutic recreation coordinator, Demi Rivera, to provide a dedicated focus on expanding adaptive recreation and intentionally increase access, participation, and meaningful outcomes for individuals with disabilities.

We partnered with families to host the I Can Swim program at the Prince William Aquatic Center, serving around 30 special needs participants with volunteer support. We partnered with the Prince William Park Foundation to award a 194 needs based scholarship for summer camps and classes through the Count Me In scholarship program. 2025 was another period of major capital investments in our park system. We remodeled the clubhouse at Forest Greens Golf Course in the Potomac District. We installed a new kayak launch at Neabsco Regional Park in Woodbridge District.

We completed entry road improvements to alleviate traffic congestion at James Long Regional Park in the Gainesville District. We installed a new picnic shelter at Veterans Park in the Woodbridge District. We made wholesale accessibility improvements at Dale City Recreation Center Park in the Neabsco District. We replaced a playground and expanded one of the baseball fields at Noakesville Park in the Brentsville district. We built new equestrian trail and a parking area at Valley View Park in the Brentsville district.

We kicked off a countywide trails master plan process, starting with mapping every foot of trail in our system to create a companion document to the comprehensive plan that will facilitate the construction of a robust public trail network. We completed accessibility improvements at K 9 Gunnar Dog Park in the Occoquan District. We placed Saunders Middle School football field artificial turf in the Kohl's District. We celebrated the opening of the county's first pump track at Rollins Ford Park in the Brentsville District in collaboration with the Prince William County Parks Foundation. Foundation. We partnered with DOT to begin planning a mile long trail connection for the newly construction Jefferson Park, connecting it to Veterans Memorial Park and Rumsco Acre Lake Park in the Woodbridge District.

We

completed wholesale accessibility improvements to Joseph D Reading Park in the Coles District. We achieved substantial completion of the Howison Park Soccer Complex improvement in the Coles District, which features new restrooms, changing rooms, pedestrian seating, and new fencing. We replaced the pool white coat and preschool playground at the Chin Aquatic and Fitness Center in the Occoquan District. We completed a new accessible parking area along Blackburn Road for the Nebsco Boardwalk in the Woodbridge District. The year ahead will be one to remember, full of initiatives and projects that will respond to community priorities and our master plan.

We'll be completing reaccreditation by the commission for the accreditation of parks and recreation agencies, an honor bestowed upon 1% of all 10,000 park and recreation agencies across The United States. We'll be preparing a list of projects for potential 2026 parks and library bond referendum to help meet the 500,000,000 in unmet needs for parks, trails, and facility projects across the county. We'll be starting a feasibility study to explore locations for an eastern and western community recreation center. We'll be drafting a public art policy for the board of county supervisors consideration that leverages the creative capital of our residents to meet the county's placemaking goals. We'll begin permitting food trucks to vend and select parks starting this spring through an application process.

Our ranger division will be launching a new apprenticeship program for at risk youth in partnership with the office of community safety's gang response intervention team to teach them professional skills and prepare them for future job opportunities. Our ranger division will also be expanding their effort to ensure safe park system by developing a drone program to support search and rescue operations for lost persons. We'll be kicking off a public master plan process for the future thoroughfare historic park in the Gainesville District. We'll be dedicating a new revolutionary war memorial at the Williams Ordinary Historic Site in the Potomac District with funding support from the Historic Preservation Foundation. We'll be creating an online exhibit focused on a historic African American community called the settlement in the Brentsville district.

We'll be launching our first ever therapeutic recreation summer camp designed for children with special needs. We'll be unveiling a new audio based and motion sensing play feature called the Sona arch between the Chin Center and the Chin Library in Incaaquan District. We'll cut the ribbon on a new one mile segment of the Potomac Heritage National Scenic Trail through the Featherstone Wildlife Refuge in Woodbridge District. We'll cut the ribbon for the new splash pad at Cat Harpin Park in the Gainesville District. We'll be exploring sites for a new botanical garden as part of the Fetler small area plan in the Potomac District.

We'll complete the improvements at Ellis Baron Park in the Gainesville District, which will feature the county's first ever artificial turf foot courts. We'll complete the additional baseball field at Fuller Heights Park in the Potomac District. We'll begin master planning the new Neabsco District adventure park located within the new course mixed use development in the Neabsco District. The Park Foundation will launch a new capital campaign for a new universal playground at Hellwig Park in the Coles District, as well as kayak lockers and a new mobile education band for science in the park program. Looking on the five year horizon, we'll continue to reinvest in our existing park, trail, and facility infrastructure.

Thanks to an unprecedented level of support from the board of county supervisors. And we also anticipate significant new capital investment to expand our system. We'll focus our efforts on meeting the community's top priorities as expressed in the 2025 needs assessment. These priorities include walking, hiking, biking trails, botanical gardens, museums, indoor fitness and exercise spaces, small neighborhood parks, indoor walking tracks, passive use open spaces, picnic areas and shelters, boating and fishing areas, playgrounds, community special events, history programs, nature programs, food trucks and parks, water fitness, adult sport programming, outdoor environmental education, youth sports programming, youth summer camp programs, and out of school time programming. We'll continue leveraging partnerships wherever possible and appropriate.

All right, all rise if you're able for the pledge of allegiance. All right. I ask that everyone please take a seat. We have plenty. So the first order of business is procedural matters.

First, for motion for 3A, we need a motion to approve a request to participate remotely.

So moved. Second.

It's been properly moved and multiple seconds. We'll give it to Bailey. I would like to go ahead and call for the vote.

Vote unanimous supervisors Stewart and Vega absent from vote.

I believe we can now have them join us remotely. Supervisor Stuart Vega, are you with us?

I'm here.

Can you hear us, Madam Chair?

I can hear you. All right, thank you guys so very much for joining. The next thing we are going to move on to, this is not on your agenda, but it's something that we discussed at our previous meeting, which was the legislative committee meeting. It was sending a letter to delegatorian and Senator Luis Lucas. It's regarding what's called the local composite index. It's the formula that schools use, I'm sorry, the state uses for their portion that they pay into our schools. We had a discussion about this and I just wanted to do a, we did a temperature check, but I want to see if there was any further discussion or if this is something people would like to sign on to.

Madam chair.

Supervisor Vega.

Thank you madam chair. I have no objection and in the same spirit I would also like to issue a motion to amend the agenda and add supervisor's time as a new item to the agenda.

I, so I appreciate that. I was going to actually give Supervisor LaCroix a few moments just to make her notices of intent. The agenda was published last week and I heard no objections. No one said anything until yesterday. I'm already anticipating a long meeting. I respect that you are able to join us remotely. But we're not sure what time this meeting will go into. I know that we have a lot of things to possibly discuss. I will go ahead. If there's a second for the motion, we can go ahead and take our votes. But then I would like to get back to this letter.

Second.

Thank you.

Alright. It's been properly moved and seconded. Any discussion on this?

Madam Chair, just point of order clarification.

And

the motion on the table is to not only vote on the letter but also to add supervisor

It is to add supervisor's time. Simply to do that.

If I can if I can clarify the motion is indeed to add supervisor's time as a new item, which would be item nine, and to move adjournment of the meeting to item 10.

All right. It has been moved. I don't think there's a need to do a second. Is Joshua has already done that? So is there any discussion?

I don't see anyone in the queue. Any discussion on this? All right, let's go ahead and take our votes.

Supervisor Stewart? Yes or no? Thank you. Supervisor Vega?

Aye.

Thank you. Motion passes six to two. Supervisor Boddy and Chair Jefferson voting nay.

All right so we will go ahead and add that. We'll move this to ten and we'll do supervisors time. So then what we're going to do, Supervisor LeCroy, you can hold yours for supervisor time, all right? And then so I'm going to let's go back to discussing the letter. We have everyone has everyone had a chance to review the letter? It was sent by Nikki Brown last night. Everyone has had a chance. Is there any discussion on this letter? I see supervisor Bailey.

Yes, Madam Chair, if you could please for the sake of the community and the audience, just give a brief review of the letter, if you don't mind.

So yes. So if people have been following what's going on with Richmond regarding the budget. I'm sorry, for the people standing in the back, if you can please find a seat. So if you've been following the budget, there are we haven't passed one yet down in Richmond. They have not passed the budget. One of the big concerns is about data centers, the sales tax about the exemption. Should they do that? Should they continue that or should they remove the exemption? And there's discussion about how would the money be used? One of the discussions that's on the table has something to do with our local composite index or LCI.

It's the formula that is used to calculate how much the states give our schools. There is a proposal to include the value of data center equipment And because of that, because we have so much data center equipment and that's becoming more and more an important revenue stream for us, it would actually be counted against us in terms of the formula that the state uses to give money to our schools. And this is a very important discussion because if they include the data center revenue, we could be getting less money from the schools and that would be roughly $38,900,000 less than state funding. Now the schools receive 47, 48% of their funding from us, 47, 48% funding from the state, and two to 3% federal funding. So this would be a sizable impact on how much our schools are receiving from the state.

And since we're having a lot of conversations about tax relief, this could really impact that conversation. So this letter would be expressing our opposition to the senate budget item one twenty five number one s. And so that is what the letter And we can make this letter available public. You know, we can certainly do that. But for members of the board, I wanted to get everyone's temperature on this.

I believe most people are in favor of signing but we need to have that discussion publicly. So if anyone has anything that they wanna say, if anyone wants to ask any questions, we have our lobbyists or our government affairs contact in the back who can answer questions. But again as we talk about our own budget and support our schools need this is a game changer if this goes through. So I don't know if there's any questions from the dais. I see Supervisor Bodhi.

Thank you, madam chair. I'm not going to retread too much of what we discussed during the committee, but since everyone's here and we also have a full board now. I just want to say thank you for bringing this to our attention. Thank you, Nikki, and the team back there for affording this to us last night, I believe. I'll just say very quickly, you know, at a time when we already know from a JLAC report that came out just a couple years ago that the state already underfunds our schools for them to turn around and then take more money away by counting economic development up activity that we have in the county is troubling.

But, two, I think you mentioned it earlier that when it comes to offices and other types of commercial businesses, they never decide to take that kind of money out and and diminish that to the school. So I have a lot of reasons why this concerns me a lot. I agree with the signing on to this letter, and I hope we can have substantive conversations with our our legislators and our delegation in particular about how folks really need to be careful about how they approach these things because it could adversely impact our schools in a fundamental way. Thank you, madam chair.

Thank you so much. I supervisor Lacroix, did you wanna say something? I

agree with everything he just said. We should not be penalized just simply because we decided to have data centers and they didn't penalize anybody else prior to this. So I think that we should send this immediately.

All right. Thank you so very much. Supervisor Bailey?

Thank you, Madam Chair. Thank you so much for expediting this in the legislative committee meeting. It was imperative that we did take a temperature check and digest it, not just overnight, but have a dialogue which bred a moment of transparency on the day as we're coming together as a collective body. And so I will be supporting this. It is imperative that we support this on behalf of our children.

All right, thank you so very much. Just a procedural question, I'm sorry, Ms. Madden. We don't have to take a vote if we just do like a straw vote or is that do. We have to. We would take a vote so I would like to go oh supervisor Gordy.

Yeah madam chair only one other thing I'd add just for the public's awareness that this is a letter also being sent by Loudoun County Stafford County Henrico Mecklenburg and Botetai. These are all the counties that are adversely being affected. So it's not just Prince William County, it's affecting quite others. So we'll be signing on along with those other jurisdictions around the state, and I'm sure there'll be others that will be signing on as well.

Thank you. Supervisor Bailey, are you back in?

Yeah, I'm back in. Thank you for that, Supervisor Gordy. I almost said Supervisor Tom, but you know, Supervisor Gordy because it will go directly to our Senator Luis Lucas, who's on the finance, head of the finance committee and our appropriations chair. So, we really, really are intentional about submitting it.

All right thank you. And I just wanted to note one thing. This does penalize us. When other jurisdictions were having more funding coming in from office spaces which was something we really don't have a lot in this county, It was not held against them. For us to be penalized because we do have data center revenue, I just think is unconscionable. So, I am very thankful to our communications team and to our government affairs team for putting together this letter and for allowing us to address this issue. So let's go ahead and take our votes.

Motion to approve back here.

It's been moved and seconded by Gordie. Let's go ahead and take our votes. I got ahead of myself on this one.

Supervisor Stewart? Aye. Supervisor Vega?

Yes.

Vote unanimous.

Thank you so very much. So we are gonna move on now to county attorney. Madam County attorney the floor is yours.

Thank you madam chair, members of the board. This evening in closed session, there will be a personnel discussion relating to the appointment of the deputy county executive for safe and secure community. And this item is appropriate for closed session pursuant to 2.2 dash thirty seven eleven a one of the code of Virginia.

So move. Second.

It's been properly moved and seconded. Let's go ahead and take our vote.

Supervisor Stewart. Aye. Supervisor Vega.

Aye.

Vote unanimous.

All right, thank you so very much. We are going to adjourn briefly to go into closed session and then we will be back out shortly. All right, we are back. And before I have us certify, I'm going to gently request that people, I know we have some folks standing up to sign in. But if you are not signing in to speak, if you can please find a seat.

This is not a chair Jefferson rule, it's a fire marshal rule. I follow what the fire marshal says. Alright. So again, we are back and we are moving on to five a to certified closed session.

So moved. Second.

It's been properly moved and seconded. We have something to report out. Oh, sorry. Yeah. With the vote on that, I'm ready to go.

Supervisor Stewart? Aye. Supervisor Vega? Aye. Thank you. Vote unanimous.

Yay. All right. Supervisor Angley.

Thank you Madam Chair. Madam Chair I move that we make the appointment to appoint Mr. Robert Blakely as the Deputy Chief Executive for safe and secure communities. Second.

It's been properly moved and seconded. Any discussion? Oh, wait, whose phone is that? That's a little scary. If people could please silence their phones. I just want to take a moment and say congratulations. Obviously, we're gonna vote, but you're higher, your credentials will bring a lot to the community.

He'll get

it, he'll

get it.

Okay. Anyone else? Say something? All right. Let's go ahead and take our votes.

Supervisor Stewart? Aye. Supervisor Vega? Aye. Thank you. Vote unanimous.

All right. Thank you very much. Mr. Shorter?

Thank you very much, Madam Chair, members of the board. I have to say I certainly appreciate your support and concurrence. And with that, I want to welcome Robert, I'm going to say Bob Blakely, to Prince William County. He has served here in Virginia for over twenty eight years, and we are fortunate to have him here to serve as our deputy county executive for the safe and secure community. Bob, I'll have you say a few words.

Thank you, mister County Executive, Madam Chair, members of the board. Thank you for welcoming me to Prince William County. I look extremely it's with great pride that I take on this new role and responsibility. You made the decision easy for me because as I sat and watched Prince William County over the last few years in particular, I've seen this board support public safety. And more importantly, I've seen this board invest in public safety.

And that type of support and investment inspires one to want to serve, and I'm blessed with having that opportunity. And to the county executive, thank you for also having that confidence in me to step into this role. It's a very important role and I enter it with great respect for the work that's been put into this great quadrant of government. I also see our strategic plan and how it aligns with the whole of government approach that we'll take in the safe and secure community quadrant. And lastly, I want to say to the community, in 1999, I brought my family to Prince William County, and I raised my four children in Prince William County.

I've watched this county grow in amazing ways, and I'm inspired to serve the community that I very much have been a part of for a long time. So I look forward to meeting you all out in the community, in your neighborhoods, hearing the things that you have to say that are important to you and learning more about the everyday challenges that we all face. And we'll be getting started right away. So thank you all for your time tonight.

Thank you. Let's go we already did. Yes. Getting a little confused. All right, well thank you very much. We are now gonna move on to agenda item number six. I'm wondering if that's why everyone's here. We usually, it's nice to have a full house. Before I open the public hearings, I wanted to see if anyone on the board had anything they would like to pull off. All right, seeing none, I believe I already have the sheets, but I'm gonna go ahead and open the public hearings for item 6A through 6D.

I would like to note for speakers, if you're new here and you have not been here before, will go to that microphone. Please adjust this so that we can hear you. You are gonna start by giving us your name and even though I say your name, your name or you generally reside, you will have three minutes unless you're with an organization recognized by this board in which case you can request five. But you will see the time up on the screen. So right now it looks like I have one person signed up in person. I don't know if there's anyone else but I have a Melody Miller. If you would like to make your way to the back. Can

you hear me?

No. Can you hear me now?

Nope. I don't think the microphone is on.

We can have could someone take a look? You kinda have to How about now? No. We're gonna

have someone take

a look.

In my mouth.

It's almost like you have to be right on the microphone.

That's gross. Okay. How about now?

Yes. Jeez, for

the love of God.

Third trick time is a charm.

Okay. I feel like I'm shouting, so I apologize. I'm normally a very loud person. So if anybody ends up with hearing loss, my bad, my fault. Good evening, Board of County Supervisors, public. My name is Melody Miller. Live in Nebsco. I actually live right across the street here. I just wanted to make a general comment about some of the development that's been going on. I've been going to some of the planning commission meetings.

I've lived in Prince William County since 1999, like Mr. Blakely, and I've seen the county really, really change. But one of the things that I'm becoming more and more disenfranchised with, more and more disappointed with is actually the Planning Commission and the Board. I've seen a lot of development here that does not align with the long range county plan, that does not align with the green infrastructure initiatives, that does not align with some of the priorities that we've said that we value in this county. Right?

We all want growth, but not at this not at the expense of the citizens. One of the the, supervisors mentioned earlier that we want to do this for the children, but we are approving, for example, in Mapledale, a building community that adds pavement, clear cuts forest, every single school within the range of that development is a 113 to a 127% over capacity. And they're gonna give a $75 per square foot proffer which will pay for the trailers but not for the teachers. So none of the people in my social circle 30 can afford to live in Prince William County. My 19 year old moved to North Carolina because she can't afford to

live here.

So when we're clearing old growth forests, when we're killing habitats for screech owls and bats and the things that eat mosquitoes, the mosquitoes that everybody in the county gripes about, right? When we're talking about adding 500 cars for 200 townhouses on a two lane road that already is packed, When we're talking about adding affordable housing, but the housing proffers are 10% for ten years and the houses start at 6 and $50,000 I don't know a single civil servant in Prince William County that can afford a $650,000 townhouse. So what I'm asking is not only for you to communicate better, because I will tell you as a citizen, it takes a lot of work on my part to figure out what is going on in this county because the communication pathways are so opaque, and they're so non transparent and they're so non responsive. I do not feel as a citizen that citizen engagement is truly sought out. I do not feel and I've I've been listening.

You guys saw me crocheting. All I did was open my ears. I will tell you that probably 30% of this room was talking about how it doesn't really matter because you guys don't listen anyway. When I'm out in the community, I've been running fire and rescue in Prince William County for twenty six years. When I'm out in the community, I have people sign refusals because they can't afford to go to the hospital because otherwise they can't pay their rent. When they talk about data centers, they say, oh, it doesn't matter, man, they're going to do whatever they want to do. So really, my general comment to you is please be more citizen focused. I'm not discouraging development. I'm encouraging development with the interest of the citizens in mind and I'm asking you to do a little better job of listening to us. Thank you so much for your time.

All right thank you very much. This is all that I have for in person. Do we have anyone available online? Alright. Supervisor Angry.

Thank you, madam chair. I I see one person signed up online. Is that correct?

Good evening. We have no speakers online at this moment. Just the applicant if any questions are needed.

All right. Thanks.

All right. Thank you so very much. I'm going to go ahead and close the public hearings for 6A through 6D. Can I get a motion to move these items forward?

So moved. Second.

It's been

probably moved and seconded. Is there any discussion? All right let's go ahead and take our votes.

Supervisor Stewart. Aye. Supervisor Vega?

Vega was disconnected. She's reconnecting now.

Okay. Do you want

to give her a second?

It's your call, madam chair. We can do her absent from vote.

Let's go ahead and do her absent from vote. Alright.

Vote unanimous. Supervisor Vega absent from vote.

Alright thank you very much. So now we're gonna go to the fun part and that's agenda item number seven, standard agenda. I would like to ask the applicant to come forward, that's you, come forward and you may now present. Evening. Someone's left something, okay.

Good evening, chair Jefferson and members of the board. My name is Janelle Cameron with Walsh Calucci, Lubeli, and Walsh. Here tonight on behalf of the applicant, JR Real Estate, we have two items on the agenda, but I will break out each item and go through them separately. The first that we want to discuss tonight is Greenhaven At Broad Run. Greenhaven At Broad Run is located in this area here, and it's a little less than a 120 acres in size.

The applicant is seeking a rezoning to PMR. The property is currently zoned a one agricultural and comprehensively planned residential neighborhood with the transect of two, which is one to four dwelling units per acre. This slide here is specifically from the long range land use plan. Single family attached and single family detached units are primary uses within the r n two designation. It recommends one to four dwelling units per acre and a building height between one and three stories.

This slide is an illustrative of the proposal. The applicant is seeking to construct 415 units, which is a decrease of 20 units between the Planning Commission and board. The units consist of a 181 single family detached units, a 102 duplex units, and a 132 townhome units. This is a density of 3.46 dwelling units per acre, which is within that targeted density in the comprehensive plan. The applicant is proposing 41 affordable dwelling units.

20 of those units will be made available to people earning up to 80% AMI, and 21 of those units will be made available to people earning up to a 120% AMI. The applicant is proposing 40% of the site as open space, which is approximately 49 acres. It also includes the amenities that are being proposed, and approximately 19 acres will be undisturbed open space. The applicant is proposing a 50 foot buffer in this area here, here, here, and then along Vint Hill Road, And this is an illustrative to show you that buffer along Vint Hill Road. As you all are aware, there have been other projects along the Vint Hill Road corridor that have been approved.

The applicant was given direction from supervisor Gordy to make sure that along Vint Hill Road, the frontage is uniform throughout. So there is a proposed 50 foot buffer that has a berm. There is a 30 foot utility easement here. There is an offset of about six and a half feet here. The shared use path is here, and then there's also an offset of grass between you get before, sorry, you get to the travel way itself.

So from the back of the lot line to the right of way, there's about 80 feet in between. In this slide is an overall, the applicant is proposing several amenities as part of the proposal, and I'll go through those really quickly with you. The applicant is proposing a clubhouse in this area here. There's a specific proffer that the clubhouse will be a minimum of 3,000 square feet, and there's a splash pad park that will be a minimum of 5,000 square feet. There are several pocket parks that are located throughout the site.

There is a courtyard that's proposed in this area here. There's a nature park community garden and playground for ages two to 12 that are also proposed in Profford, and there is a perimeter walking trail through the site that is also Profford. As part of the proposal, the applicant is seeking several housing types, so that there will be different price points throughout the project. With these housing types, there are waivers and modifications to the PMR standards. The first housing type is the village house.

There are design guidelines that have been provided as part of this application, and the building elevations architecture are proffered as part of those design guidelines. The next house is the reduced setback patio house. The applicant is seeking a waiver to decrease the minimum lot area and minimum lot width and to allow for a maximum lot coverage of 60%. This slide here shows the duplex units. The applicant is proposing a height modification to 45 feet and then a reduction in the lot width from 50 feet to 45 feet and a modification to increase the maximum lot coverage to 60%.

This slide here shows the townhome units. Again, we're seeking a height modification to 45 feet and a reduction in the minimum lot width to allow for 16 foot townhome units, which also reduces the building footprint to about 640 square feet for some of those units. As part of the Vint Hill Road projects, there are the internal street networks that need to be planned as well as the external street networks. So what you see on the screen is the internal circulation plan, and then there are road categories and street categories that align with those. The applicant has worked with the VDOT in the county on the street typologies as they have gone through this proposal.

And this slide here shows the pedestrian connectivity, so no matter where you are on the site, you'll be able to walk the site to get to any of the amenities. And as part of the proposal, there is the Vint Hill Road improvement plan. All of the projects that are proposed along the Vent Hill Road corridor have proffered to this Vent Hill Road improvement plan. Specifically, for this site, there is a roundabout that's proposed at Pioneer, which is this area here. This slide here shows the right of way and what that Vinton Hill Road ultimate section would look like, and there are a lot of words on the screen.

Many of you have seen this before, but I will summarize it for you. With the Vint Hill Road projects, it was made very clear to the applicants that you cannot look at your project by itself. You need to look at what are the impacts in the totality in the event all of the projects are approved, and then what is your impact in case some of the projects are approved, but not all of the projects are approved. So in the proffers, there are three scenarios. The first scenario assumes that only your project is approved, and in that case, the applicant is required to give a monetary contribution of $17,000 per unit.

They're required to do the improvements that only their project require. They're required to do clearing, grading, and utility relocation along Vint Hill Road, and they're also required to dedicate right of way along Vint Hill Road. Scenario one is out the window because there have been four projects along the quarter that have already been approved. So then we would go to scenario two. Scenario two assumes that all of the projects are approved.

If all of the projects are approved, there's a phasing analysis that gets done and submitted to VDOT. The goal of this phasing analysis is that the road infrastructure can accommodate the residential units that are coming online. In other words, you're not building more homes than the road can accommodate as you're going along the process. So there's a phasing analysis that is submitted to the county. The applicants still have to do what they would otherwise be required to do for just their project.

There's a monetary contribution of $17,000 that goes to an escrow. There's a joint development agreement that is provided by all, three of the developers, which have all the applications along Vint Hill Road. That joint development agreement will assign one person as the manager of constructing the road. So essentially, that $17,000 goes into the escrow, and then the road is constructed by that one project manager. In this scenario, the county has the ability to say, you know what, we decided that we want to do the road instead, so that monetary contribution will then go to the county.

The third scenario assumes that only some of the projects are approved, and if only some of the projects are approved, the applicant still has to do their road improvements, the right of way dedication, the clearing, the grading, the utilities, and they still have to provide that $17,000 monetary contribution. But in this scenario, there's a modified traffic impact analysis that is submitted to the county and VDOT to determine what road improvements need to be done now, and then there's a modified phasing analysis that determines what road improvements need to be done by when to ensure that the road can accommodate the residential units that are coming online. So specifically for this project, the applicant has proffered right turn lane into the site, a left turn lane into the site, and a left turn lane onto Reed Lane. The applicant has also proffered that they cannot access Pioneer Drive until it is brought up to today's current standards. So the concern there is that with the Strathmore project, Strathmore is required to do the roundabout and then realign Pioneer, but in the event that that does not happen, something happens in Strathmore, does not come online, VDOT wanted to make sure that the Pioneer Drive was the correct road standard to be able to accommodate the units.

And then specifically for this project, there's a little less than $9,000,000 that are being proffered to the county. And that concludes my presentation. I can answer any questions that you all may have when it's my time.

I was actually going to have you present. If you are okay, present both. We could take questions from the dais and then we'll go to the county and then we'll take questions from them. So unless Supervisor Gordy has any objections or do you because he has none. So if you want to go ahead with the other one and we can take all the questions.

Great. Okay. I'm back. So for the record, I'm Jonel Cameron with

Walsh. You never left.

Our second project is the Village at Broad Run. Is eight parcels Madam that can

Chair, just a quick question. So given if someone is here to speak for both cases they would be given six minutes not just three minutes to speak.

Yes because because these are two separate cases. So in the interest of time because we do have quite a few people I assume that you guys want to speak. So she presents both we can ask questions of her this we've done before we will have the county come up. The county will do their presentation we will ask questions of the county and then I will open it. Since we have two cases people will have up to six minutes or up to ten minutes if they're with an organization that we represent.

Thank you, madam chair. Just want to clarify.

Alright. Go on, Janelle. Thank

you. So for this project, it is a little over a 110 acres in size. It is currently zoned a one, comprehensively planned residential neighborhood two, which is again one to four dwelling units per acre. And this slide here shows the illustrative. The applicant is seeking to rezone the property to PMR planned mixed residential.

They're proposing 290 dwelling units, a 148 single family detached units, 40 duplex units, and a 122 townhome units. The applicant is proposing 30 affordable dwelling units, so that would be 15 made available to people earning up to 80% AMI and 15 made available to people earning up to a 120% AMI. And then the applicant has proffered two land bays to be dedicated to the county. So this here is Land Bay 3. The applicant has dedicated proffered to dedicate that to the county for parks and rec purposes, and then this here is a portion of Land Bay 1, and the applicant has proffered that to be dedicated to the county for parks and rec purposes or for public safety purposes.

The applicant met with the folks on Silas Drive several times, and based on those meetings, the applicant did revise their plan to address concerns throughout the process. So I'll quickly run through those with you. Originally, there was a stormwater management facility here. The applicant removed that stormwater management facility. The applicant along this area here moved the limits of development back, So there's about 80 feet of undisturbed area between the property line here to the back of a home based on feedback from the community.

There was a dog park located in this area here, and the applicant relocated the dog park. The applicant for this storm water management facility here proffered that there would be a minimum of one LID or low impact development incorporated into that storm water management facility. There is a homeowner here, and there were concerns that when the Vent Hill Road widening occurred, that that homeowner would lose their full access to Vent Hill Road today. So the applicant proffered to provide a driveway through this property here to Silas Drive in order to make sure that that owner would be able to maintain their full access to Vint Hill Road. The applicant also redesigned this area here.

Originally, there was an the road ended here to allow for an interpersonal connection to Silas Drive. We heard loud and clear that the Silas Drive residents did not want that. So at the Planning Commission, we still showed it, but it it dead ended. And what VDOT told us was redesign the road, and then I won't ask for that connection. So we redesigned redesigned the road to be able to accommodate them.

The applicant also proffered to pre and post construction monitoring of the neighbors' wells as well just to ensure that the development of the site does not impact their wells negatively, and if it comes back that they did, the applicant is responsible to repair or replace those wells. The applicant is proposing 50% of the site as open space, which is about 54.66 acres. The applicant is proposing the 50 foot buffer along Vint Hill Road. Again, the applicant has proffered land Bay 3 to Prince William County for parks and rec purposes. There were discussions regarding tree preservation along the property line adjacent to Strathmore, so the applicant proffered to preserve two specific trees along those limits of development.

And then there are several amenities that are being proposed as part of this proposal. The applicant has proffered a minimum clubhouse of 3,000 square feet, that also includes a pool that the applicant proffered to be a minimum of 25 yards, which is the size of a competition pool. The applicant proffered tea and community gardens, multi use courts, multi use fields, and a perimeter walking trail, as well as playground and a dog park. For this project, there are also different types of housing. That way, again, it allows for different price points throughout the community.

This slide here shows the cluster units. This slide here shows the village units. This slide here shows the duplex. We are seeking a modification to increase the height to 45 feet. This slide here shows the townhome units, and we are again seeking a modification to increase the height to 45 feet, and a modification to decrease some of the side setbacks.

With both of their proposals, there are street trees that are being proposed. VDOT recently has told us that they don't want street trees within the right of way, but what we have proffered to is that we will still provide street trees either within the right of way or adjacent to the right of way within HOA maintained land. And this slide here shows the pedestrian connectivity throughout. In working with staff, they wanted to make sure that there is access to Land Bay 3, and the applicant wanted to show that with the developments along this corridor, the developers really did work together to make sure that there was both pedestrian connectivity as well as vehicular connectivity throughout all of the projects. The applicant specifically proffered to work with Parks and Rec.

There's a proposed trail system here that will connect to the Broad Run Linear Trail, and the applicant proffered to work with Parks and Rec to locate, design, and construct that trail. And then this slide here shows that vehicular connection that I mentioned. This slide is the internal street network, and again, we did remove any connection to Silas Drive. There will be two access points on Vint Hill Road, one here and one here, and then there are three interparcel connections that are being proposed, two to the Strathmore project here and here, and then one to Silverbell if that project is ever approved. And then again, there's the Vint Hill Road improvements, so the applicant has proffered to the Vint Hill Road improvement plan.

Along Owl's Nest, it will now become a roundabout as part of that Vint Hill Road improvement plan. And then again, this slide shows what that would look like illustratively. The transportation flowchart, so there are three options within the proffers. Option one is now out of the window, then there's the second option along Vint Hill Road if all of the projects are approved, and then the option if only some of those projects are approved. Specifically for this site, the applicant is adding a right turn lane into the site, a left turn lane into the site here, and then another right turn lane.

They are also doing that $17,000 per unit monetary contribution as well as right of way dedication, clearing, grading and utility relocation in order to get Vint Hill Road ready for the ultimate widening. And for this project here, it's over $6,000,000 in monetary contributions, and this does not include the cost of the land that is being dedicated to the county. And that concludes my presentation, and I'm ready for questions when you all have them.

Alright. I'm waiting for people to jump into the queue. Supervisor Gordy.

Thank you, madam chair. So I just wanna clarify on a couple of things. So Land Bay 3, can you speak to what that is, what's there, and why you're dedicating that land Bay to the county?

Absolutely. So Land Bay 3 is about 28 acres in size. About half of that 14 acres is developable, but when the applicant looked at this property in particular, it really does fit the need to be able to connect to the Broad Run Trail. So the applicant worked with County Parks and Rec to say, we will give you this land in order to be able to connect to the trail, and that will also allow maybe somebody to be able to park there and use the trail connections throughout all of the projects.

Okay. Thank you for that. And then on I guess it's Land Bay 1, the parcel that's just right at the end of Silas Drive. The proffers you proffered for public safety or for a public park, and but we had discussed, you know, an option of of other public need with the approval of the of the supervisor and the course of the and and the board.

Absolutely. And we know that from the Vint Hill Road perspective, the county is still doing their small area plan. So we are happy to amend the proffer as long as it's okay with Michelle to say it can be used for any public purpose or another public purpose as deemed appropriate by the county.

Okay. Madam County attorney. Alright. Good.

I'll make that change and show it to you all before.

Thank you.

You're welcome.

Yeah. And what I I wanna make sure is that, you know, I I wanna make sure that we have the ability of those who live alongside us to be able to speak into this because we certainly don't want something that's noisy or, you know, that that that could create problems going forward. So look forward to being able to communicate with have the communication with the community on that as well. Now in one slides of you showed the schematic kind of the road, and in it there were power lines. Are going for the distribution lines, not the transmission lines that are near the current substation closer to Greenhaven, but just to all those power lines on Longvent Hill that are distribution will be buried?

Correct. Correct. Those lines will be buried? Yes. All right.

Thank you very much. And then on your road right of way, that slide that you had that showed how you were dedicating the right of way, yes, right there. So the I know we've had a conversation with the board about what the impact on other folks would be along Vint Hill Road, and and so we've negotiated and talked to the applicant about given pretty much any needed right of way would be on their side of Hill Road as opposed to taking of property on the other side. So I appreciate the applicant also addressing that for us. That's it for my original set of questions, and I'll turn it over to the rest of my colleagues for now.

You.

All right. Supervisor Boddy?

Thank you, Madam Chair. Thank you, Ms. Cameron, for the presentation and for being very concise even though it's two projects. A couple of questions. One, going back to the Silas Drive question, but then, broadening it out, how much community engagement did you only applicant do as part of the process for these two projects?

So, we had two commune I think I wanna break it down in two different ways. We had two community meetings at Patriot. We then had separate meetings, and I would say probably over a dozen that the applicant met with Silas Drive people on, specifically to understand what are their concerns and how can we mitigate those impacts.

Appreciate that. And number two, you know, some folks have talked about other projects that we that this board has already approved that is gonna be part of the sort of Vint Hill small area plan that's still in formulation. How much interactivity do you have with staff on sort of feeding and making sure there's synergy between things that they're working on versus what you're proposing here?

I'm going to have Tanya Washington, do that because I think they just kicked off the small area plan, but I think it's better for her to answer. Good

evening, madam chair, members of the board. Tanya Washington, director of the planning office. So the Ben Hill Corridor small area plan, we actually launched it last fall, and we did our first community kickoff meeting in November. And in terms of keeping an eye on obviously, staff are involved in reviewing these projects and bringing recommendations to the Board. But the team there's a different division, our community planning and revitalization division that's responsible for the small area plan.

They have been keeping a close eye on what's happening with these rezoning applications as they are coming to the board and the decisions that will take place from these projects. And then ultimately, all of those decisions will be folded into the larger small area plan, which covers not just the areas that are subject to these rezoning applications, but a larger area because the small area plan covers a lot other additional topics, not just these rezoning applications, which, again, are already going through its own process. And so we are very mindful of the decisions that will be coming from these projects as the board makes your decisions, any particular elements, particularly with regards to impacts on infrastructure such as transportation, pedestrian amenities, etcetera. The other piece is since I'm here to talk just really briefly with regards to the Van Hill Quarter small area plan, we are actually in early stages of planning our next community meeting, which I think we're looking at June to do that. And we're also going to be doing some stakeholder engagement as well with different targeted stakeholder entities and organizations.

Long story short, what's happening with regards to these very specific applications, all of that is definitely being fed into the larger small area plan.

Thank you. Then my last one, madam chair. Thank you, miss Washington. Thank you, miss Cameron. Last one for you, Cameron, is can you talk a little bit more about the amenities for these two developments and how they will bring community benefit?

Absolutely. So when designing the site, it's really designed to provide more than one amenity and provide optionality for everybody. And so looking at specifically this project, there were questions from the Silas Drive folks if they would be able to use the clubhouse and the pool. They don't have an HOA, but the applicant did commit to looking at that during the development to see how they could be able to use that facility as well. And I think that's the public benefit you were speaking to.

Exactly. Thank you.

You're welcome.

Alright. Before I go to supervisor Zakoy, I just want to understand something and this was regarding Green Haven because I know there were concerns about you know African American structures historic structures. What have you found or what has the applicant found?

Absolutely, so the applicant did a phase two report. That phase two report was submitted to the county in August. The historical commission reviewed the report in November. As part of that phase two, what was found was essentially ceramics and animal bones, like chicken bones, etcetera. And so based on that, the archaeologist that was hired believes that that was the old area potentially for a slave quarter where they did their cooking.

There was not a foundation that was found as part of that, and they did do digging. The applicant to address those comments, and sorry to make you guys dizzy for a second, went to the historical commission, so the area is essentially located in this area here. If you look at this slide, the Phase II site is in this area here. There was extensive research that was done on this site, including metal detecting and digging, to see if there were any foundations. There were not.

To address the concerns from the planning from the historical commission at the Planning Commission public hearing and in coordination with the county archaeologists, the applicant proffered to do a phase three and a mitigation plan to do additional research to curate anything that was found during that phase three and then also to do an interpretive kiosk and coordinate the language of that kiosk with the historical commission. But there were not any foundations that were found with the phase two report.

And just to follow-up again, do you anticipate, I mean like what if something is found, what would be the next step?

So based on the extensive digging we do not anticipate, but in the event that something is found it would be dug up and then we can figure out a way to memorialize that on-site or curate it with the county for them to do something with it as well.

Alright, thank you so much.

You're welcome.

Supervisor LaCroix.

So one of the things that I like to see with a new application is a buffering between existing homes and existing communities and new communities that you're hoping to build. So what initiative have you done to buffer the new communities and to make it more beautiful for everyone who lives within that area?

So that is a great question, and I'll start backwards, to show you that. We'll start with the illustrative on village. So this is a village at Broad Run. The area directly next to us is Strathmore. So the applicants did a master development study with Brookfield and Stanley Martin and JR Real Estate.

In that master development study, they looked at traffic, pedestrian connectivity, infrastructure, so sewer, water, and they also looked at the trail network, bicycle connections. So here, we are not proposing a buffer and they are not either because it's similar uses. We are proposing a 50 foot buffer along Vint Hill Road, and then as I mentioned previously, where these homes are here, we're actually removing the limits of clearing and grading or moving the limits of clearing and grading back. So it is a 80 foot undisturbed landscape area adjacent to where those residential units are. And then for Greenhaven

Excuse me, are you buffering them with trees and

So we are actually keeping the existing trees in place. So the existing landscaping will be in place, and then the county will require us to supplement if we're not meeting the plant unit per linear feet requirement. And then with the project here, there are the utility lines that run through it, but we are providing 50 foot buffers along the adjacent property as well as that 50 foot buffer along Bent Hill, and again, this area here is Strathmore, so we will have landscaping but not a buffer as part of that proposal. You're welcome.

Alright, supervisor Stewart who's online. Can you hear us?

Thank you, Madam Chair. So, yeah, I have a question about Greenhaven. So originally, the applicant had proffered a public park and a sports field just to the right of the power line easement. So since that feature was removed, there has been a request for public benefit to be added in for a small parking lot and a trailhead for the trail that exists in the development. Okay.

And I know that there's a a couple of parking lots near the townhomes, but they they seem more for guests versus for people that might be visiting the trailhead.

Thank you so much for asking that question. The applicant did say that we can proffer to do 10. We can proffer that 10 of these parking spaces and this these areas here could be used for that trail system. We did not do a gravel lot at the front of it due to the topography of the site, and the county would actually require it to be paved, which is additional storm water that we would have to figure out, but we could look at providing that 10 within these areas in here would be open for public parking to connect to the trail system.

Okay. Great. And then the other part, connecting back to Madam Chair's question. At the planning commission, the the phase two recommended the the national register, but still feels like digging wasn't done quite far enough and that there actually is a foundation there. Is there going to be any further depth to the digging that's already been done?

So the Phase II provided digging. The Phase III will also require us to do digging. But this is an old farm, so anything that could have been there probably was moved anyways when the farm was developed. So we our archaeologists that did the report strongly suggest and believe that there is nothing there based on the digging that they did, but the phase three would require additional digging, and the phase three is scoped with the county archaeologist before we can start that work.

Okay. Thank you.

You're welcome.

Alright. Supervisor Bailey.

Great. Thanks, Madam Chair. Jonelle, I'm assuming that Justin in the midst, Patton is in the midst of this research and he is in concurrence with your findings?

Yes. So Justin Patton is not here tonight. I know Emma is, but the phase two was submitted and reviewed by Justin, and the phase three will be scoped with Justin, and Justin actually provided us the proper language that we have in the proffers now. We worked on that together with him between the Planning Commission and the board to make sure he was also comfortable with that language. So to answer your question, yes, Justin was involved before and Justin will be involved as we move through the process.

And this is in alignment with new comprehensive plan instructions that former Supervisor Franklin and myself made in terms of these findings and how we should go about it in a more progressive way?

Yes.

Thank you for that answer. The other thing that I wanted to say in terms of the Broad Run project, what I really like about this project is the painstaking attention, if you will, that the developer took with contributing significantly to the community in forms of transportation, schools, and parkland. And also taking care of something that in our meetings you described, there were several homes in that little pocket up north that needed some revisions or was concerned about how this project was going to impact their homes. Am I remembering that correctly?

Yes. And so at the there was there were a lot of concerns about impacts, which changed some of our layout and design. Mhmm. There were also concerns about stormwater management in particular, And from a stormwater management perspective, both state and local, they require that your runoff meets predevelopment or is less than predevelopment. And so specifically for the stormwater management pond here, the concern was that it would cause flooding on the neighbor across the street's home because they have a stormwater management easement.

So we agreed to do an additional low impact development design in that stormwater. That way it would be less runoff than there is today preconstruction as well as doing the well monitoring to make sure that the construction doesn't negatively impact their wells.

Can you, for lack of a better word, can you dig a little deeper on the wells?

Absolutely. So there is generally a concern that construction may impact the aqua four, which impacts the well water amount or quality or quantity. Mhmm. So what the applicant did is they proffered to do a proffered to send out a letter that says we are going to start construction in this many days, we will do a test of your well pre construction, and then we will do a test of your well post construction, and if it shows that we've negatively impact your well, we will replace or repair your well.

The last question I have is the supervisor requested some data to be gathered about the schools, and I think it was this project.

All of them, yes. Yeah.

Yeah. Can you enlighten us a little bit about that? Because that is a general concern when we talk about projects of this nature. It's a general concern. Can you enlighten us a little bit about what you did and why you did it and what were the results?

Yeah. Absolutely. So all of the projects are designed to go to the Nokesville k through eight school. The Nokesville k through eight school is over capacity today. It's overcapacity in the future, and there's only so much they can do to that school to add additional capacity.

The applicants, there are seven applications that are along the Vint Hill Road corridor. In addition to those seven applications, there are applications along Nokesville Road that have been approved or or are in the rezoning process today. All of those are designed to go to the Nokesville k through eight school. So what the applicants did is they looked at all of the projects, and they looked at the elementary school within elementary schools within the planning districts, the middle school, and the high school. And they basically said, if we funnel these projects to these certain schools, then there would be no capacity issues.

And so what they did is they looked at the Nokesville Elementary School. So in blue is the existing capacity and the projected capacity, not including the residential units that are coming online. So then if you look here, if you look at Glen Kirk, Bristow, Cedar Point, Tee Clay Wood, the blue is existing, the purple are the number of units based on the developments that we had funneled to those schools. And as you can see, all of the schools will still have capacity. We did the same thing for middle school, and we did the same thing for high school.

The applicant provided this funnel and information to the school board member, Erica Tredenick, as well as the school board chair, Barbara Latif. Mhmm. They have this information. They have decided they're going to wait until all of the projects are approved, and then we'll do a holistic redistricting. They did the same thing, as you all may remember, with Thomas Farm, where we proffered that we would ask to go to a certain school, and then after the rezoning, that project was redistricted to that school.

In addition, the applicants have proffered $5,000 per unit to go to schools, and then within each project, so Alderwood at Kettle Run, which is a Stanley Martin project that was approved, they proffered a school site that could be a middle school or an elementary and middle school like the Nokesville k through eight design, and the school board also owns another site not too far away from here that they could use for a high school site. So from a school's perspective, not only did they provide a monetary contribution, but they provided a funnel of schools that these kids could be districted to that would not negatively impact the public school capacity.

Working with the school.

Working with the school board, yes. Okay.

You. Thank you, madam chair.

You're welcome. Alright. Thank you so much. I don't see any of the speakers in queue. So if the county would come forward.

Good evening, Chair Jefferson, Board members. My name is Alex Venegas from the planning office, and I will be presenting Greenhaven at Broad Run, and my colleague Maggie Costello will be presenting The Villages at Broad Run. So this application is a request to rezone approximately a 120 acres from a one agricultural zoning district with a limited small portion that's actually RPC, residential planned community, to PMR, which is a planned mixed residential consisting or allowing up to four fifteen dwelling units. Of that four fifteen dwelling units, approximately 181 will be single family detached units, 102 will be duplex single family attached. And then 132 will be townhomes single family attached units.

This is a change from what we took to the Planning Commission. The applicant had conversations with the board and Supervisor Gordy to relook at the density and the density actually came down approximately 20 units originally was four thirty five. The new proposed density is 3.46 dwelling units which is within the comprehensive plan RN2 designation for transect two. The location is North Of Vint Hill Road, East Of Pioneer Drive, and West of Braemar Development, the RPC area. Staff is recommending approval for this application.

As mentioned, this property is currently zoned A1 with a small section being RPC. The PMR area is a recently approved Strathmore that board approved. And then the comprehensive plan is RN two, which allows one to four dwelling units per acre. Again, this application is 3.46 dwelling units per acre, so it falls within that density. So this is an overview of all the applications that we have along the Vent Hill corridor.

If you remember, we recently approved or the board recently approved Hawthorne at Kettle Run, Alderwood and Longleaf, as well as Strathmore. Tonight, you're gonna hear Greenhaven as well as the Villages Of Broad Run leaving the only outstanding application, Silverbrook, that will be heard soon. Some relevant background information. So this Vent Hill corridor, these, as I mentioned, there's seven development applications along the corridor. The Board of County Supervisors have approved four of those.

To date, approximately twelve twenty seven dwelling units have been approved with those cases. Tonight, we have four fifteen units with Green Haven and another two ninety with The Villages bringing up the grand total for 1,900 dwelling units along that corridor. As Ms. Cameron had mentioned, the corridor study was done by the applicant. It was at the request of Supervisor Gordy.

He had asked that the applicant and staff take a look at all the infrastructure, the level of services to make sure that this potential growth would pay for itself and provide those level of services needed that are created by the impact of this development. And as director Washington had mentioned, the county is also working on a Vint Hill Corridor small area plan, and that's currently underway. That will take a more comprehensive look outside of that the area of these development applications. Okay. This is the illustrative of the Greenhaven At Broad Run.

As the original application had more units down here in this area. Based on the feedback they received from the planning commission and supervisor office, they eliminated some of the townhouses, approximately 20, to decrease the density and provide additional buffering and open space between Braymire and this development. And as Supervisor LeCroy had asked, this area does have 50 foot buffers all around the application except for in order to have that contiguous development as what was planned with Strathmore. We don't have that 50 foot, but we have enough buffering and screening between both applications. This provides an overview of the different housing unit types.

This in the brown area is the village houses, which is all on the more or less outside of the application that's gonna be adjacent to the neighboring Bremyer and other developments in the area. In the interior, we have some reduced setback townhouses. We also have duplex houses in green, and then the blue are the 16 foot townhouse I'm sorry. The ADU townhouses are in gray, then the blue are the remainder of the townhouses. This shows the open space.

As the applicant had said, they're providing 40% open space. The PMR asked for 30% open space, so this is exceeding the open space requirement. And as the applicant stated that approximately 49 acres is open space, which is really good. This also shows the northern part of the Greenhaven application with the buffering and open space associated with the project. I'm not going to go over this, but this shows the different types of amenities that are provided throughout the application.

And I think one of the important things to mention is that Supervisor Gordy asked the applicants to be mindful of the different applications to make sure that they have different types of amenities that could be used throughout the area as well as designing similar setbacks buffering along the corridors as well as streetscape. Similar sign materials to give a sense of place as you're going up Vint Hill Road. These are some of the amenities, the clubhouse. I'm not gonna go into that. I think Janelle covered that fairly well, but that's gonna be a nice amenity for Green Haven as well as the splash park.

This is the nature park and community garden. That provides the opportunity for people to grow plants and vegetables within their development. This is the street cross section that we wanted to make sure that each project was similar with similar amenities and connectivity throughout the entire corridor. The applicant also provided illustratives and different examples of what the architecture would look like for each of the different unit types. The landscape approach within the project, hardscape for the walls and fencing that will occur throughout the application.

Signage, we have different types of signage, but they have the same type of materials and look. And there's also some way finding signs, which is important that gives it a distinct community feeling. And this shows all the signage that will occur throughout this application. So the applicant did request several waivers, which are allowed in the PMR, and staff is supporting them. We did have some initial concern because the alternative housing unit types, while in this application they're providing much more than what is requested or required in the zoning ordinance.

We did feel like the with the duplex type e and and type f are more middle density, mid range density as opposed to low density. But overall, the application as a whole meets the vision of that particular They do have some reduced setback housing design standards for the type E and type F, which references the alternative housing types. Height modifications going from 35 to 45 feet, which staff is in support of. That provides the ability for rooftop terraces, so which also is a form of open space for the property owner. And then the townhouse row length, there are some unit some sections that do have eight units per row, which is above usually what we request and what the zoning ordinance has.

Staff is recommending approval. We find that this application is consistent with all the relevant sections of the comprehensive plan. Staff has recommended approval for the following reasons with the proffers dated 03/12/2026. So the rezoning to PMR is consistent with and an implementing zoning district for the RN 2. As proffered, the applicant does provide a cohesive plan mixed residential community with appropriate infrastructure improvements for both schools, for transportation.

The proposed development supports our housing policy with promotes diverse mixed income housing. In this particular application, they're providing 20 affordable units up to the 80% AMI and 21 units for up to 120 of the AMI. It exceeds the open space requirements. The density falls within the comprehensive plan range. And then they did provide robust buffering and compatibility measures throughout the project.

And the proposal is in alignment with several goals and key objectives of the county's strategic plan. And I will gladly take any questions that you may have or you can hear Ms. Costello's presentation.

Since there are two of you guys separately, does anyone have any questions for Mr. Venegas while he's up here?

Madam Chair.

Yes, Supervisor Boddy.

Thank you, Madam Chair. First, thank you for your work on this, Alex, and thank you for the presentation. As always, you have a good balance of being concise, but also being detailed. I just have a couple of questions. So again, to go back to one of your previous slides, this project that that one actually just passed, like, the that has a different staff report. Yeah. So first, this touches upon it's been recommended approval by every staff review viewer of the comp plan.

Supervisor Bodhi, that's correct. We went through all the review agencies provided feedback and based on this, that's how we analyze for consistency with the comprehensive plan.

Appreciate that. And then my second question is, can you talk about open space requirements versus what this project is delivering?

So PMR in the zoning ordinance says it has to have a minimum of 30% open space. This application is offering 40% open space, which is greater than and it's through the combination of amenities, open space, buffers. So from staff's perspective, we like to see, applicants come in with cases where they have more open space than what is required.

Appreciate it. And my last question, Madam Chairs. Thank you for that, Alex. And my last question is, talked about and I like how all of you do this, I think you in particular, Alex, do a really good job of setting the tone of what's around it, compatible uses, and what have you. So you talked about how Braemar is just to the east of here. That's already RPC. This is already this is gonna be RN two. This sort of fits in. Can you talk about how this is gonna how this does this serve as sort of a a transition from sort of the denser units that are already existing and as you get farther out on the Bent Hill Corridor knowing that this obviously gets really rural pretty fast?

Yes. So since Greenhaven is right near Bremer, it has the higher density of these applications. And as you go down to Strathmore in the villages, it kind of is a transition downward, not as intense as being right next to the RPC where you expect to see that type of closer to the the four dwelling units per acre. And as you go down, it it goes down to, like, in the threes. So that's the way that it this project works along with the other applications and the ones that were approved on the South Side have even a lower density because that's what it was called for in the comprehensive plan.

Thank you.

Supervisor Stewart.

Thank you, Madam Chair. I just, not so much to be a dog with a bone, but it has to do with, again, the, archaeological study where they were talking about Site 44 PW 1530, where specifically a dwelling occupied by enslaved African Americans between 1755 and 1830, where the phase two study said that without a doubt, the site has yielded and retains potential and integrity to yield important yield important to enslaved lifeways and material culture during this time period. The prehistoric component of the site was minimal, and the site is unlikely to yield significant information related to our understanding of prehistory. Now, I do understand that it's been proffered to inventory and place in kiosk any artifacts that are going to be found. But if something more significant is found, for instance, like a wall or a foundation, would that be moved or would we be able to preserve that in place?

So the applicant and staff did work with the historic commission as well as the county archaeologists. And usually in order to mitigate things we put proffers and in this case we went all the way up to a phase three with curation like you had mentioned as well as a mitigation plan. And then the interpretive signs which includes the kiosk. The county archaeologists, the historic commission and staff felt like these measures gives us the opportunity to mitigate any impacts associated with cultural resources. And if the applicant does find things, they will curate it.

If it's something significant, then they would work with the county archaeologists to determine the mitigation plan, what needs to be done to either preserve it or I know in some cases they relocate things. But in this case, you know, I think does that sound about right? I'm sorry. I'm going to bring up Emma Dietrich, who's the part of the county archaeologist team.

Thank you.

Hello. Thank you. Emma Dietrich, cemetery preservation coordinator, but also trained archaeologist. So I can speak a little bit to this. The Propher stated they're going to do a phase three investigation, which phase three will go into full data recovery. So that'll be a process in which their consultant and archaeologist will be allowed to or will be able to further investigate that site for a possibility of, like you stated, the potential for a foundation structure. There's a question whether or not if that foundation structure exists, what it's like. If it is staying to the eighteenth, nineteenth century, it might not be movable like you're referencing. But within that, the curation and then the interpretation process would be a way to bring that data to the public.

Okay. Okay. And so if not movable, it would be preserved in in place?

I'll let the applicant speak to that just to confirm. There is a mitigation plan in place. If there are any significant items that are found during the phase three investigation and so that would be a conversation that would then occur with the scoping phase with the county archaeologist.

Okay.

Anything

else? Alright. You're good, supervisor Stewart?

No. Oh, she said that she was going to have the, the applicant speak to that. So if that could just about preserving in place. That's the that's the only, kinda last thing I have dangling.

The applicant would do the phase three mitigation with Justin Patton. They would keep it on-site, but I'm not sure that it would be preserved in place.

Okay. Okay. Thank you.

Supervisor Gordy?

Thank you, Mr. Vice Chair. So speaking of history, and this is something incidentally I find interesting that it hasn't even been brought up. But this home, the Manuel home, was actually the home of a former Brentsville supervisor from nineteen o one to nineteen fifteen, JP Manuel. Have we looked at also some historical artifacts, anything that relates back to the manual and and if you go back and if you look at even the maps of the Battle of Bristow Station, the Manuel farm is on those maps.

So this this site goes back a long way. It for sure. And and Warren Manuel, who grew up on this farm, who is now 91 years old, he and I have talked a lot about this, about what a lot of the history on this plot. He's like I said, he's been there for a long time. And and he speaks often about his grandfather. Have we looked at, you know, some things that that tied to the county in terms of the historical significance of the time of supervisor supervisor Manuel?

I'm gonna let the applicant address that, but one thing we can consider as we do this interpretive kiosk, maybe we can include

Yeah.

Information regarding that into the process.

Okay.

Yeah.

Applicant actually met with mister Manuel and went through his family's history because he has a lot of it, took pictures. They actually did a video with him. So the interpretive kiosk, it just says that the content will be in consultation with the planning office and the historical commission. So the applicant's goal was to also include history of the family within that interpretive kiosk. So I don't think there's anything else we need to do because the interpretive sign cover it's not just to what was found there, but we also will be interpreting the history that we learned from mister Manuel.

Okay. Thank you very much.

You're welcome.

That's all I have.

Now this is pretty amazing, but I I got supervisor Vega in the queue. Are you putting it? Okay. Supervisor Vega.

Thank you, mister vice chair. My comments and or question are going to be for the applicant. And while, miss Cameron makes her way up, to the podium, I appreciate the applicant's, candor when it comes to, the overcrowding issues that we're experiencing not just in the Brentsville District but throughout Prince William County. I appreciate the commitment that we've gotten from chairman Latif and school board member Erica Tradenik. However, I would like to refresh the memory of my colleagues that two major land use applications were approved along the Holyrood Road corridor, with the assumption that overcrowding would be alleviated by the construction of the fourteenth high school.

We know now that that is not the case. And so I am asking, do we have a letter from chairman Latif, or anything else that's actually, enforceable or a greater commitment, if you will, other than a verbal one in regards to the overcrowding issues?

So we don't have, the commitment letter, but when the county, sent out the application to the school board and they provided their input, The one thing that they did put as one of the bullet points is that the current enrollment projections do not reflect any potential remedial measures the school board may implement to address capacity concerns such as increasing building capacity with CIP projects projects or adjusting the school attendance zones, which is basically the best that we could get from them at this time. But through all of our conversations, it was our understanding that once the projects are approved, that they would be districting, redistricting not to send another kid to the Noakesville k through eight that already has overcapacity.

And and thank you for that response, miss Cameron. I can't count. I can no longer count, the trailers along Parkate Drive, that are at the Noakesville School, and so we certainly do not wanna aggravate that, situation any further. Just food for thought for my colleagues on the day is if the school board is, highly considering redistricting, I think that perhaps we should, have that conversation with them so that we're all on the same page. That's all I have for now, madam chair. Thank you, Ms. Cameron, for addressing my concerns and answering my question.

You're welcome.

Thank you so much. Supervisor Bailey.

Thank you Madam Chair. I want to go back. It's very interesting. Supervisor Gordy, thank you for that point you made about the gentleman that's 91 years old and gave his input on this very important project. I think that's just another example also of what's in the comprehensive plan and what we discussed and how important it is and how we learn from past experiences with projects. And so, my maybe it's a request, but just my comment would be, as you

go

along in the different phases, Emma, with this, the interpretive design, but also the illustrious illustrative resign design would also be important as you build this wonderful project that it's there for the community to understand that there's history there. Just planting a little seed, because I think when you talk about the history of Prince William County, the story still needs to be told. And so, I'm just planting a little seed, because Supervisor Gordy did bring up a very important point with our wonderful seasoned senior citizen. Not a question, just a comment. Thank you.

All right, thank you, Supervisor Gordy, then Lecroy.

Thank you, Madam Chair. I just want to speak a little bit to the schools. Just so that folks kind of get a lay of the land, the Noakes, everything that is not currently zoned to a school in the Brentsville District is zoned to the Noakesville school. Everything. All the way from from the Potomac District all the way up to almost Route 66 or at least Route US 29.

So there are two elementary schools within a stone's throw of these sites, And there are other elementary school and all of them have lots of capacity and actually have gotten to the point that their capacity is so low that they've actually had to cancel programs because there's not enough students to as the money follows the student, the way site based management of our school system is, is that there's not enough money because there's not enough kids in those schools to sustain their programs. So by aligning these kids to the schools that have decreasing capacity, this is actually going to help sustain the programs and reinstitute those programs like Teach Lakewood had an award winning drama program, which had to be canceled this year. They don't have enough students. So what this does is this will allow those schools to be able to have enough students to be able to and my conversations with the superintendent, she's actually very keen on having these students move to these schools so that those programs can be reinstituted and those schools revitalized. Additionally, and again, I've had the conversations with school board member Tradinik, and I've recently just talked to Chair Latif just a couple of weeks ago about this, and once again received his commitment on that.

In terms of and I also want to clarify about trailers at Noakesville School. Noakesville School is under construction for an expansion program, and that's why those trailers are there. They're there to accommodate kids out of the classroom so that they can expand the buildings. So it it they showed up and and without any real warning, and so it is left people thinking that all of a sudden the school needed, you know, nine new classrooms, but there have been no developments built that would have required those buildings. Nothing's been built except homes on 10 acre lots.

That's it. But those trailers are there for the expansion of the school and to accommodate that in the short term. But I appreciate the question on school because that again, as we've looked at these cases, I said we're not going to do the same thing we did in the 1990s and 2000s where every neighborhood was taken in isolation without understanding how it fits in the broader picture, that everybody had to come together. And this is when we talk about smart growth, this is about a different approach. This is about looking at these things holistically and coming up with a comprehensive plan in order to mitigate the whole because the whole is greater than the sum of the parts.

And so we cannot take the parts. We have to look at the whole to make sure that we're adequately and appropriately mitigating the impacts from these developments in totality. And so I appreciate the questions on this, and this has been the schools one's been a very important one for me for sure and of course transportation as well and that's why we've worked so hard to try to come up with a good plan to address those going forward. Thank you Madam Chair.

All right I just want to say it's kind of step away for a second I just want to make sure I know we've had a few people who've gone on their second time this is your second time correct? Supervisor LaCroix? Is it your second time though? Alright so you have one more time. So you get twice. So I'm gonna go to you and then I see someone pulled himself out. So Supervisor LaCroix.

I just want to say one thing. I still must have my resident hat on and I'm trying to wear both supervisor and resident hat. But the residents are really, really important to me, the people that are existing. And I'm kind of a do no harm type of judge. And as a realtor, I like new builds.

I'm just going to say that out loud. But what's really important to me is that the applicant is doing everything within their power to be a good neighbor, to when they come in, that they're doing as much as they can to make sure that when they're through, that they have enhanced a location. And what have you seen with their willingness to work with the residents and to enhance the community at large?

Supervisor LaCroix, the applicant met with the community several times between both projects with the community, the Braemar community and people. I think it was with ours, was thirteen eighty feet around their development as well as Supervisor Gordy asked them to expand that. They did. They've from my perspective, they have worked with the community. Again, not everyone's going to be happy.

There's always concerns. And a lot of the concerns are legitimate. But the applicant has really worked hard and worked with the supervisor of records office. Just like when we were met when Supervisor Gordy mentioned the schools, know, we have part of the development that Green Haven at Broad Run is goes to T Claywood and that's only at 61.8% capacity. And, you know, again, that hurts them if they don't have the funding to meet their full capacity.

And then even with the projected students, it only goes up to 68.7. So, that's one of the biggest things that we hear from the community is traffic, which the applicant has provided, road improvements, level of service such as fire and rescue, and previous applications did provide a site for fire and rescue. In addition, you know, to the schools, the transportation, they've got a lot of amenities there that, you know, the community can enjoy. So I think, you know, that they've worked, you know, with the community to address some of their concerns.

Supervisor Vega.

Thank you, Madam Chair. Certainly don't want to continue to prolong the conversation, but I do think it's important to highlight that, the Notesville school is at capacity not because of the expansion, but prior to the expansion. And while I understand that additional trailers have been added, the school is not at capacity because it's expanding. However, this is not a comment or a me being critical, if you will, of the applicant, this particular application or the district supervisor because I know, supervisor Gordy has done tremendous work, to bring this here tonight that I will be, talking about later on. However, this is just a call, to chairman Latif and to the school board.

It's an urgent call. We need to, change the boundaries. We need to redistrict, and it's a serious conversation that we've been having for a long time. And I think that it's been long overdue. And I hope, that if they're not watching tonight, somebody tells them about it. I know I certainly will reach out, but it is urgent, that we, handle this to ensure that we don't have other land use matters, either being held up or being, criticized in such a way because of an issue that can be fixed in a timely manner. Thank you, madam chair.

Thank you so very much. I don't have any other questions in queue, so we can come up with the next case please.

Good evening, madam chair, members of the board. Maggie Costello with the planning office. As you heard from Ms. Cameron earlier, this is a request to rezone land from A1 to PMR, and staff is recommending approval. The application consists of three land bays.

The first land bays one and two comprise about 81.5 acre. The applicant is proffering the portion that's on the left side of Silas Drive to the county for Parks and Recreation and or Public Safety. The, Lambay, three is roughly a quarter mile to the north and it's roughly 28 acres. This is also being proffered to the county for parks and open space land use. This page was taken from the Broad Run and Cattle Run Master Development Study submitted by the applicant.

This shows the Prince William County's mobility plan trails map from the comprehensive plan. The goal being to connect to the Broad Run Trail. This application does provide that link at the top as you can see. The trail would connect to the 28 acre piece, be pulled through Silver Bell, which has not come before you yet. And then of course end at the village bringing the trail directly onto Vint Hill.

Looking at this a little bit closer, can see that land bay on the facing Vint Hill Road does comprise all of the residential use. The applicant is proffering a trail connection into Silver Bell, pulling that trail again through into Lambay 3. That's the orange line connecting into the Broad Run Trail. This creates pedestrian infrastructure and regional connectivity for this area, which was targeted in the comprehensive plan. This is the environmental constraints analysis that was submitted by the applicant, the 28 acre piece known as Land Bay 3.

And looking at this, you can see that there are several environmental constraints on the site. It's staff understanding that the applicant has proffered to build the trail going through here, and I believe it will be placed outside of that RPA area. But you can see here there's, plenty of wetlands and water, as well as lots of specimen trees identified on the site. This is the environmental constraints analysis for Land Base 1 And 2, where all the residential development will be. Most notably, you can see the limits of disturbance shown in the brown line.

They are pushed out to the outer edges of the parcel, so significant clearing will take place. The applicant, as she stated earlier, there are two very significant specimen trees in the lower right hand corner there. Strathmore development has gone above and beyond in their efforts to preserve at least one of these, and the applicant is taking this forward on their side of the property line, continuing this preservation. Talking about density for this development, the way the applicant drew the land bay lines, Land Bay 2 ends up outside of the targeted gross density for RN2 land use designation per the comprehensive plan. So it lands at 4.82 dwelling units an acre.

However, combining Land Bay 1 and two together, you get 3.55 dwelling units an acre, which is within the gross density. And of course, if you include land base one, two and three altogether, the full 110 acres, get 2.63 dwelling units per acre, which is very much within the targeted density. Staff does recommend taking more of an aggregate density look at this as they are providing quite a bit of recreational and open space opportunities with this development. Just some quick notes about this particular application regarding the environmental side of things. Again, those two trees are being preserved very well on their side of the property.

So staff supports this. There was revealed with the ECA that there were some special status wildlife species occurring or have the potential to occur on the site. And there is suitable habitat for an endangered species and a proposed endangered species. And the suggestion from the federal side is to mitigate this by having a bat survey conducted between the months of May and August. The applicant is providing full vegetative buffers along roadways and they are adding that voluntary street tree plan.

Regarding transportation, parks, open space and trails, the applicant is providing adequate access points into the development. They are providing staff is supporting what is being dedicated with right of way and the turning lanes at the project entrances. They are of course putting in the shared use path along Vint Hill Road. This particular application staff feels has a robust pedestrian network with active and passive recreation elements supported by staff. And of course, the applicant is participating in that joint development agreement with all the other Vint Hill Road corridor applications.

Regarding housing, they are providing affordable housing, as you heard. They are also including four different housing types, which provides variety that staff looks for. And they're proffering some special needs housing options within those proffers. Of course, you've just heard from my colleague and from the applicant, there was much discussion about schools. And we do understand that there is still uncertainty amongst staff, the board, and school board regarding impacts, but we do understand that the applicant is working with schools and with each other to mitigate these impacts.

The applicant has requested several modifications and waivers to the zoning ordinance regulations. Staff looked at each one of these separately, looking at the impacts and the justification provided from the applicant, and, we are supportive of these in their current state. Last month, the Planning Commission did recommend approval of this application. However, they did place the following conditions. They requested that there be an inclusion of a proffer for pre and post construction well testing for the residents of Silas Drive, which you heard earlier from Ms.

Cameron. They have actually provided this in their current version of the application. The Planning Commission requested that an easement and driveway construction be pulled through the Herriman parcel for access for the Bryant residence on Silas Drive and you heard earlier that yes they did meet this request. The Planning Commission also asked that the applicant continue to work with transportation staff to remove that inter parcel connector onto Silas Drive, and they have submitted a revised MZP showing that removal. And of course they also asked for an inclusion of a proffer guaranteeing that the applicant will be building in constructing the trail on Land Bay 3 which they have proffered.

So with that, the planning office recommendation along with the planning commission is to we recommend approval of rezoning REZ 202510, The Village At Broad Run, subject to the new version of the proffers, which are dated 02/27/2026, for the following reasons. This proposed use meets the targeted land use and overall density targeted within the RN2 land use designation in the comprehensive plan. The proposed use fulfills the targeted increase of residential supply and aligns with the county's strategic plan. And the proposed development also does provide that robust pedestrian and trail network, meeting the target of extending the Broad Run Trail to the Vint Hill Road area. And I'm happy to answer any questions that you might have.

We also have staff here from transportation and environmental management and parks and rec I think.

Thank you so very much. I'm just waiting for people to jump in. I don't see anyone, anything. Tom, are you reaching for it? Maybe, no, you got nothing? You got nothing? You got something.

I'm ready to hear from the constituent. So Alright. You know what? And I think they're they would rather us get this thing moving.

Alright. I listen. I have no objection. So with that, I am oh, we already have it. So I'm gonna go ahead.

All right, so I'm gonna go ahead and open the public hearings for seven a and seven b. We have a lot of new faces out today. Just so everyone is clear, even though I call you, you're still gonna, when you get to the microphone, you're gonna need to state your first and last name and the magisterial district where you generally reside. Don't need to give us your address unless you want us to show up. And if I show up please make sure you have something yummy to eat.

So you'll go to the back. You will have, if you wanna speak on both cases, you have six minutes. If you're with an organization nonprofit that we recognize or HOA, then you get up to ten minutes. Please let us know beforehand, okay? Just let us know who you're with. And so I'm gonna call people up in groups of five. Adjust the microphone. We can't hear you. Everyone likes to think that they're loud. You're not loud, honey.

You're not loud. Okay, you're not loud. And watch the screen. So, I'm gonna have Melody Miller, you can come back up. Jeff Phyllis, Yaheedah Saad, Omar Malik, Amushabar Hassan.

So all of you can stand up. Oh god, nope. Sorry guys, we have to take a break. We are we're in the recess because we lost our quorum. So this is for 7a and 7b, Melody Miller, Jeff, Yahida, Omar Mushbar.

Ma'am, you may speak. And again

Okay.

Six minutes.

Can you hear me? Yes. Okay. So I'm going to talk on both of them, so if I can have the six minutes. As I said before, my name is Melody Miller. I live in Neabsco, but I actually run fire in Noakesville. I am over there. The Vinhel Corridor is my first due. So I'm very intimately familiar with that area. I just wanted again to point out, I've read all of the proposals.

I've watched this. The applicant has done a really great job, in my opinion, of amending a lot of the proffers. But I think there's a couple of key things that are a little bit performative, and I'd love to see both the Planning Commission and the Board be a little bit more diligent about making sure that they're more in line with the county comprehensive plan. The first thing is that all of this is car dependent. There's really poor integration with the county kind of multimodal transportation, is part of, again, the 2040 plan.

We have a huge problem with bikers on the West End of the county. There's a lot of traffic. There's a lot of people that ride their bikes. You are taking your life in your hands if you go on Aden Road on a bike, people do it all the time. So I'd love to see more integration of, like, dedicated bike lanes or connection to county transit so that people don't have to have so much traffic.

There is a tremendous amount of traffic out there. There's no meaningful energy standards in any of this. And that concerns me because if you're taking down, if you do all seven projects on Vinhill, even the ones you've already approved, you're taking an enormous amount of tree canopy out of the West end of the county. And I know that a lot of people think that open space is the same thing as tree canopy. Not only is open space not wildlife habitat, it's not screech owls that eat mosquitoes, it's not bats, it's not all the things.

There's a lot of deer already that use Van Hill because they got no place else to go. But it's called evapotranspiration if anybody wants to be a nerd about it. But there's a lot of evaporative cooling that happens in old growth tree canopy. And we are we are facing I mean, everybody in this room has probably experienced a 100 degree day in summertime in Virginia, and it's miserable. And the more trees we cut down, the more of those days we're gonna have because a lot of the county cooling comes from those trees, and you're taking out a giant chunk of it on the West end of the county.

I know right now people are really struggling with AC bills. Own power bill was over $500 this month. So you crank the AC to a livable temperature and you're going to have to have seven jobs. So just have that consideration that open space and tree canopy are not the same thing. And so old growth really does have a value, and it has a value that is tangible to the citizens.

I'll talk faster, I promise. So sustainability measures. Some of the sustainability measures, I know that there's a lot of talk about how well the applicant has done. Density is a thing, but also I know we don't have a climate executive and that we are currently trying to hire one, but I am not seeing a lot of consideration on climate concerns in a lot of the development proposals that are going forward. And once we build these communities, it's not going to be easy, cheap, or maybe even feasible to retrofit them to some of the client needs that are climate needs that are evolving right now in the county.

So I would love to see some more consideration of that, even though we don't have a climate executive. There are experts in the county. DWR has experts. Some of the public works people have experts that can be utilized to maybe make some of this more accessible to the citizens and to the applicant. That's pretty much my pitch. Please leave a lot of the trees alone because we need them, especially if you're going to add a lot of traffic, you need a lot of the carbon sinks, you need a lot of the air filtering that's going to offset a lot of that, that that expansion brings. Thank you so much for your time.

Thank you so very much. Next speaker, please.

My name is Jeff Fliss. I'm Silas Drive. I'm Brentsville District. We've been involved in this process since day one with Saif and his crew. He's got a good team. He's been very responsive to the concerns and the really pretty significant concerns that we've had on Silas Drive. We're not real happy with it, of course. Silas Drive is a very quiet road. We enjoy being very quiet. There's about 12 homes on that road.

We're ground zero for this whole thing. We're between Owl's Nest, Silas Drive. It's probably two of the most dangerous intersections on Van Hill Road. Recently, we've had a young woman pass away at Owl's Nest and Silas Drive during the construction of the water pipeline. The roads are a very big concern for us. I'm I'm very happy to see that they've decided to put in the roundabout and and relocate Owl's Nest. That's a big that's gonna be a big safety feature. We gotta slow these people down on that road. That road is very dangerous right through that area. They use it as a racetrack.

If you've ever been up there, they're going a hundred, hundred and twenty miles an hour. They literally use it. It's perfectly straight section of road and they're absolutely out of control. One of the things I will say is, Saif and his crew have been very receptive when it came to storm water management. I take a good portion of that property storm water.

We've been very concerned about the wells. We've been working with Saif and his team with the wells. So I can't say anything bad about their team or their crew. They've been very, very responsive with us. With the road connection, that was a major deal for us. We like our quiet road. We actually literally stood out in the middle of the road with supervisor Gordy and and Saif and his team. And we I think we had two cars, maybe three at the whole the whole period of time. And that's what we pointed out to him. That was the big thing.

Know? We don't have a lot of traffic. If that road connection was there, they were talking about over a 120 trips an hour possible with with that connection. And that was just not gonna gonna work with us. We we like our quiet road.

My wife's lived on that road now, it's going be fifty years. So we're going to end up giving that property to our next generation. This is going be the fourth generation that's going to take that property at some point. That So that little block, that little our little two acre lot is going to be there, a one, for as far as for as far as we can see. We might not personally be there, but our our our kids one of our group of kids or our grandkids or our next layer of grandchildren will will be on that property.

That that's that that I can definitely say. We might be the only two acre lot left in that area, but we will be there. So but, you know, I don't even think I wanna say this, but I I actually with with working with his team, with the way he's been, I I think they're gonna be a good neighbor to us in the end. And I I think that that should be taken in consideration when you all vote tonight. They they've they've stepped up as far as I'm concerned. Thank you.

Thank you so very much. Next speaker.

Can you all hear me? Perfect. My name is Yahi Assad. I live in Coles District and I'll just need six minutes, private citizen speaking. So thank you to everyone tonight. I'm a husband, father of two very young two under two, very young beautiful children. I'm blessed to have them. We spent my wife and I spent years looking for the right place to live, and we picked Prince William County. County. Not only because the county has so much to offer, but because we have family here.

And what we want is to establish a multigenerational presence. You know, we talked about having our grandchildren here, great grandchildren, and so on and so on. So for us, it's very important that my wife's family, for example, almost entirely in Prince William County, and we wanna keep it that way because with the rising cost of childcare and the rising costs of so many other things, it helps to have family around, and it helps to have a community like the one we have in Prince William around. And I think it's the people of Prince William that make it as great as it is. With that being said, I wanna advocate on behalf of other young families like ours who are still looking for a place to live, who are struggling to find reasonably priced housing, and find a home that's within a reasonable distance from their families, their houses of worship, and their work.

There's no secret that we're facing a housing crisis, and there are many factors to that housing crisis, the cost of materials, global supply, etcetera. But one of the factors is housing supply, and housing is not in great supply in the county in Virginia across many metropolitan areas in general. That is the factor that this county of board the county board of supervisors does have leverage over. So when we when looking at the village in Greenhaven, I see a proposal that sets a good standard for environmental protection. I see adequate funds and measures proffered to support transportation improvements, education.

And based on the site plans that we've seen, I think this is a place that many young families can call home and to establish more of

a

multigenerational presence here in Prince William County as the county grows with respect to our environment, with respect to the culture and the history that this county offers. So I'm asking you to vote in favor of the rezoning on both both applications. Thank you.

All right, before we get to the next speaker, I'm just going to call up our next group. We have Omar Malik. I don't know if this person is still here. Amir Ayer. Angela Klein, I didn't realize, congratulations. Oh boy.

Home stretch. Get done. Wow,

that is commitment, okay? And then I have, I am so sorry, Kaseef Rasul. So if all of you guys could stand in the back. Sir, you may go ahead.

Thank you. Good evening, Itur Jefferson and the members of the Board of Supervisors. I'm Abisher Hussain. I'm part of the Gainesville District. I've been part of this area since 1995.

So for the last thirty some odd years, I have lived in Manassas, Manassas Park, Knoxville and now part of the Gainesville District, live in Bristow. First, I would like to thank all of you, the county staff, everyone involved for supporting quality development projects in Prince William County, specifically in Bristow and Gainesville area. I'm here to support a village in Greenhaven as it represents responsible growth that benefits both the local community and the county. Both of these projects also provide great amenities that play a huge role in making housing truly livable and enhancing overall quality of life. In the last thirty years, I have seen housing demand and supply and now and how it impacted on an individual in term of the cost.

As many of us know, currently, our area faces a significant housing shortage. My daughter, a UVA graduate working full time for the past three years, is still struggling to find a home that falls in reasonable price range. Increasing of our housing supply is crucial to addressing rising cost as we very well know from economic principle that limited supply and high demand drive up prices. This is exactly what's happening in our area. So by approving these projects, we can take a significant step towards meeting our community need. We look forward to receive approval for both of these projects. Thank you.

Thank you so much. Next speaker, please.

Good evening. My name is Amira Yoob, and I'm a part of this committee since 2010. I'm deeply concerned about the housing shortage in our community. And if we don't act now, the next generation will struggle to find affordable housing. I fully back these two projects because investing in housing today safeguard our children's future and help maintaining the diversified vibrant community we cherish.

I'm father of two teenagers. And I'm really concerned about their future. And I want them to live around me. So that's my concern. And I fully bag those two projects and that's all I have to say. Thank you everyone.

All right, thank you so very much. Next speaker please.

Good evening. Hopefully, I can get this at my level. If you see any wincing, that's because three weeks away. Wow. I am wondering if I can get, the ten minutes because I have been the head of the Silas Drive community. So I wonder if

can do I

mean supporting again.

Listen. I will give that to you. I just again, I'm still so impressed that you're here. So,

yes. I appreciate you.

You're speaking for two, literally.

Speaking for two That's is of the 12 households on our street as well. So my name is Angela Klein. As most of you know, I am a Brentsville resident and a resident of Silas Drive. I wanted to use this device that I don't really know how to use just to show kind of okay awesome. So this is Silas Drive.

We have been in talks, like I've said, with SAFE and his team and Adam and their team. We've had Maggie, we've had Will there, and I can't forget to mention supervisor Gordy and then of course Jacob as well to really have serious conversations about this project because we were concerned. This is a dead end street that we were the newest people who bought a house in 2018 on this dead end street with people who have lived there for fifty plus years and have handed their houses down from generation to generation because as most of these individuals have spoke about affordability in Prince William County is not affordable. In 2018, we moved here because we were choosing between Loudoun and here, and this was affordable, but it was at the upper range of our price range when we were looking at a house. So we bought here because it was a fixer upper, and my husband and I love to kill ourselves after our regular jobs and fix up our house.

So that's what we did. So I just wanted to point out this is me right here and my husband. This is Jeff who just spoke earlier as well. And not to inflate Saif and Adam's heads any larger than they have already been. I will say that it has been a pleasure working with JR Real Estate.

It has been a breath of fresh air. We have a lot of detectives on our street, and we will find people's addresses and emails and be able to have those conversations because that's what we want to do. We wanna be heard as residents, and I think that's really important to get into these conversations with the developers because for I mean, we're a huge community. We're Prince William County, and we should all be concerned about each other. So that's what we really did.

I will say it wasn't easy to do that. I needed to know how to get in touch with them, and I and also get I got in touch with Maggie. I got in touch with Will that way because I knew how to use the portal as well. So, Justin, FYI for the county officials, like, it would be great and, of course, Tom, but it would be great to have more of that participation for people who don't who aren't investigators so that they can get their voices in before the last moment too. But we've had setbacks.

The, you know, the setbacks here, the tree buffers, fantastic. Wanted to confirm a few items as well. So wanna make sure and I know supervisor Gordy, you spoke about this, but the county does provide that driveway for the Bryant family. I think that's crucial. That's something that we and SAFE is very much aware of this, but just working with both parties to make sure that they have an in and out from Hill Road.

Again, the Wells, thank you very much for Safe and Adam, and then, of course, principal planning commissioner and Tom, of course, just making that bond period actually apply as well because you don't know what happens to wells in a year after construction ends. So I also wanted to make the point where if we can't dig a well, we really appreciate and I think this is part of our conversation and was confirmed but want to confirm again that if we have to hook up to public that we don't bear the cost of that public you know sewer wells and sewer if that happens And then supervisor Lacroix welcome. Congratulations. We're really excited for you. But again the buffering portion of it one of the other items that I wanted to make sure because this is our house and SAFE and the team have have been really great.

They've expanded that buffering, but I wanna make sure with the erosion of the other trees going down around there is that we continue to backfill that buffer because while we have said this is a great buffer, there is gonna be additional erosion. So we've talked about that with SAFE and ADAM. I believe that's something that they're going to be looking into as well in doing, but I just want to make that clear for everyone. And also my neighbors here that have the buffering just continue to add to that as trees fall down and continue that buffering. You know, things that continue to be somewhat of a concern to us is the transportation.

I know that supervisor Gordy and, the developer team, and just Prince William County, have been talking about Vent Hill Road for a long time. I am still concerned about the Rollins Ford to Sunley Manor Drive and that we're not doing four lanes the entire way. I understand there's some easement problems or, you know, just going around that curb as you get to Rollins Ford, but there's gonna be a lot of just pile up on that road if we don't continue to discuss four lanes for the entire sector. So just something that we'd really like to continue to hear that conversation going, and I'm sure supervisor Gordy you know I'll be in touch so, and then also, this is again for, the JR real estate team and I know they're looking into it but I want to just make it clear in the public remarks Removing the stormwater pond here, I know we can't have any definite at the moment because they're still doing, you know, but putting it under not removing. Sorry.

Putting it underground so that we just don't have that pond visible there doing an underwater underground facility and then adding again to supervisor LaCroix comments some buffering there for our neighbors who are directly abutting the development too. And we got you a couple more houses safe for fighting for that non interparcel connection. So hopefully we can do that. So I also wanted to just also to address, you know, there was talk about an supervisor Bodhi. You actually asked the question, area plan engaging the community.

I will say that it feels like it happened a little too late for Vent Hill. There was a lot of plans already in progression when that small area plan came out. I think it would behove the, supervisors to actually come out to Vent Hill too and to just see what we're seeing. You're always invited to Silas Drive. Like, we would welcome you to come out, but I know that only two supervisors can come out at a time or something like that, so that's why we didn't call you all out at the same time.

So we didn't have a huge PwC conference on Silas Drive. But it's just the synergy there is is not the best I would say with the community. I think a little bit more of just being more present for the planning staff, being more present for the transportation staff because people do have comments and would like to be heard, think would be fantastic. And I think that would go a long way with the community and something that I've definitely discussed with Supervisor Gordy and he's also mentioned that that's something that he's pursuing too. You know, again, it was definitely really difficult to figure out how to connect with the developer as well in the first place.

Luckily, I work for a real estate act on the commercial side developer and owner, so I have a little bit of background on how to get in touch with people. And we don't give up on Silas Drive, so we were able to connect with SAFE and team, but there was no, you know, initial this is the connection. I think that that would assist with some of these development projects a little bit more if we could have that initial connection as, residents who want to be heard and we want to have those discussions with the developer. And I know that Tom came in as well and that was fantastic. And so think we can go a long way with discussing these projects directly with the Vallabras community members because at least our experience has been especially with JR Real Estate that they will listen, and of course with Supervisor Gordy as well that we will have you know ears to listen to us so that that was great.

But overall we just really appreciate the time that you know again not trying to make safe head be any bigger than it is, and Adam's too, but we do appreciate the time and attention that they took. Also, supervisor Gordy's office with Jacob that they took to come out to Salis Drive several times to meet with the residents. We definitely would like to still be involved in the conversation and Safe has mentioned that that is absolute plus that as the development continues to happen he will involve us and he knows that I will go to this board and I will go to Supervisor Gordy if that's not the case. So we while we don't necessarily agree with the development, I think as a daughter of two economists, that supply and demand doesn't really get affected here just because there are so many other there are so many other different anomalies with housing supply that we're not gonna have necessarily affordable housing. Hopefully, we do because I want that as well.

But I think that just this developer, this relationship for our community was huge. And I appreciate supervisor Gordie's office as well.

Thank you so very much. I have there are a couple people have called up. They haven't come up to speak. So I am going to go ahead and go to remote public I'm sorry, remote comments. Do we have anyone online? I

have three names on the sheet. Do we still have them with us?

Good evening, vice chair and the board. Yes. We do. Our first speaker is Christopher Carroll.

Alright. Go ahead, sir.

Hey. Good good evening. Christopher Carroll, Brentsville District. Just wanted to log in real quick and say a few quick words. I wanted to thank the applicant team for all his work on Village.

I think we've gotten that project into a good place. And with a couple of additions of the PC, the addition of the trail, the driveway for the Bryant's, and most importantly, us finding a way to finally get that interparcelery moved on to Silas, all good things. So I did wanna acknowledge that application and the work done. And I I won't go into my concerns on schools and transportation costs tonight, but I do appreciate everything that has gone into that application. Now in terms of Greenhaven, there's still two quick outstanding items I just wanted to comment on.

First, regarding the parking and the trailhead, this is something I I've really been hammered on. And I understand that Dafton does not want to move forward with anything on that side of the power lines. You know, I've heard that parks have told them not to, which parks advise was not the case. I've heard the upkeep would be too expensive for the HOA. I've heard that there's no room to the power line expansion.

And now tonight, I've heard it's actually a DCSM issue where the paving could require more storm water management issues. So all that is kind of what it is. But if we are putting those parking spaces in for the public benefit as a whole next to the townhomes, we need to find a way to guarantee that those spaces are for the general public use, not just for the Green Haven residents or guests. Because I can tell you that those spots are gonna be snapped up by the guests. So that needs to be resolved in the proffers tonight.

And, also, those spots don't make much sense if the trail itself doesn't actually come down to the spaces. So I encourage us to take a look at how we are preserving the spaces for a public benefit and how the public can easily access the trail next to said spaces. We're building an amazing trail network here along the Vinhill Corridor, and we have to find ways for the public as a whole to be able to access it. And if those spaces are what we've got, I definitely encourage us to take one last look tonight to see if we can carry that trail down to hit those spaces on the trailhead next to the townhomes. The second item, the historical site.

The historical commission recommended that if a a phase three finds a stone or brick foundation that is to be believed to be of historical interest or supports the idea that this was an African American space, that they were requesting that the site be permanently preserved and coordinated for public viewing and educational opportunities. And this is in line with the comprehensive plan preserving a place, and these aren't my words recommendation. This is the county's historical commission, the experts in this area. The phase two study, which the applicant had completed all the way back in 2024, had recommended a phase three and identified that the site was eligible for the National Register of Historic Places. So let that sink in for a minute.

We've had a report back from 2024 saying that a phase three study is recommended and that we have a historical site which is so important that it's eligible for the National Register of Historic Places. And nothing, frankly, was done until it was discovered at the Planning Commission hearing just a few weeks back at a meeting where the applicant team could not even readily identify where the site was located on their site plan. So in speaking with the historical commission, this site is a significant discovery as it includes the recovery of columnware along with other ceramic pottery. And from the historical commission, the addition of oyster shells and funnel remains supports the argument for a settlement. We rarely see a requirement for a phase three, And in addition, I have never seen any recommendation from a phase two for an addition to the National Register of Historic Places.

This site is important, and we definitely wanna give it the care it deserves. Now I'm no by no means saying that this totally negates the project, but I'm not saying it absolves it either. I'm strongly in belief that a proffer should absolutely be added to preserve in place any found foundation on the historical commission's recommendation to preserve the history and integrity of the site. This is not something that should be moved if something is found, and that is all through the recommendation of the comprehensive plan, which we just went over how we should be following. I said all this on record at the planning commission, and I just wanted to log in and say that on record again tonight.

If the applicant is confident that there is no structure, it should be no additional stress to add a proffer to protect any potential structure that might be found, And I encourage the board to continue to push for that addition tonight to preserve history in place in compliance with the comprehensive plan. With that, I appreciate the time and I appreciate the board taking one last look at resolving these two outstanding concerns prior to any vote for approval tonight. Thank you.

All right. Thank you, sir. Next speaker, please.

Good evening. That was our final speaker. Thank you.

Ah, thank you.

All right. Thank you so very much. I'm going to go ahead and close the public hearing for 7A and 7B. And I would like to invite the applicant and the county to come up if there's anything you guys wanted to address that you've heard from our speakers.

Going to go through the questions in the order that I heard them, but if I skip anybody or I miss anybody, just please let me know. I wanted to start with, what we are doing from a sustainability perspective as well as an an access perspective. So as part of the proposal, the there will be a 10 foot shared use path along Vint Hill Road. And so when we talk about mobility and multimobility, that was one of the things that the developers took a look at when they did the master development study to look at where are there areas for multimobility. County transportation has been hitting us hard with that to make sure that we look at not just pedestrian connectivity, but also bicycle connectivity.

So for both of these projects, in addition to the shared use path as well as the trails and the sidewalks, the applicants had proffered that there would be bicycle, facilities at each one of the amenities. In addition, the homes do not prohibit a homeowner from being able to construct solar on the property. And in many instances, EV charging stations are options now that can be bought by the first homeowner. So the applicant really did look at both multi mobility as well as some sustainability aspects. As far as the tree canopy coverage and open space, the applicant is either meeting or exceeding the tree canopy for both of the projects as well as open space.

And then I wanted to hit specifically some of the comments that Angela Klein has as it relates to making sure that we hit the items that the applicants, had specifically said that they would. So to address the comment for the Bryant family access, proffer 23, as it relates to interpersonal connections, specifically says the applicant shall provide interpersonal connections as shown on the MZP. In addition, the applicant shall provide an access easement and construct a driveway through GPin 7395Dash 85Dash 0627 to allow access for G Pin 7395 Dash 75 Dash 8342 to Silas Drive. So that basically is adding that connection, through the parcel that will be dedicated to the county, to the Bryant's home so that they are able to have access. As far as the well monitoring, the applicant, did say that it would be done prior to final paving that's associated with bond release.

So that's basically is the final step, for bond release. And so as requested by the Silas Drive folks, pushed out the well monitoring to the very last step in the process. For underground stormwater management, the applicant is still looking at opportunities to do that, and I think I hit most of everybody's comments. Oh, I wanted to hit, sorry, Chris Carroll's, specific comments as it relates to the parking spaces. Sorry, give me one moment to find a good exhibit.

This one's a better one actually. So from a pedestrian connectivity perspective, there's actually a sidewalk here. So the applicant has agreed to provide 10 parking spaces to be made available and open to the public to connect to the trail system, and they're if they're parked here, there actually is a sidewalk here that would connect to the Vint Hill Road trail system, so the applicant is willing to do that, and I wanna go back also to the specific question as it relates to the phase three. So when the applicant does the phase two reports, they oftentimes submit it specifically to the county, and they go by the recommendation of the historical commission. So when the applicant submitted the phase two in August, the historical commission in 11/12/2024, their specific recommendation was no further work.

And because the historical commission's recommendation was no further work, the applicant did not proffer a phase three. At the planning commission public hearing, the after the planning commission public hearing, the historical commission re reviewed the documents, and then the historical commission made their recommendation to do the phase three and mitigation. That is why the applicant prior to the planning commission did not proper the phase three because it was not recommended by the historical commission. So I just wanted to clear that up. And I think I hit everybody's comments.

Alright. Supervisor Voty, did you have any questions?

Madam chair, thank you. Miss Cameron, so a couple of things to hone in on some of Miss Miller's comments. So can you do you have a a good aerial how much of the sites are currently clear cut already because they're farms?

Yes. And we'll start with maybe. It might be better in staff's presentation.

Do Do you you guys have

the property in your staff? So this is the Greenhaven presentation. Sorry, it went dark. So this is the Green Haven presentation here, so as you can see, a lot of this area has already been cleared cut because it is farmed, and then if I go to Maggie's presentation, so this here is oh, I can just from current slide. There we go.

This here is the village, and all of this area here has also been previously farmed.

Appreciate that. So thank you. And then my second question is when you guys were all looking at transportation, you mentioned earlier shared use path. In terms of the entire sort of master planning of this, what does that overall connection look like in the long run-in terms of not only pedestrian, but the shared use path for multimodal sort of trans transportation.

So this slide here shows the trail networks through the property. So as you can see, all of the projects committed to. So the areas that are sort of the dark blue, that's the Vinton Hill Road widening portion of the property. And then the other areas in blue are the public streets. And then all of the public streets, these light blue areas, private streets, they all have sidewalks on them, and then the yellow is the trail network. So when they did the master development study, again, we couldn't look at it one project at a time, but how do they relate together for both a pedestrian as well as a vehicular standpoint between the projects.

Thank you.

You're welcome.

Supervisor Gordy.

Thank you, Madam Chair. So on this so the parking lot for the pedestrian in us and look at this from two perspectives. It's like, okay, what if folks want to come and they want to ride a bike along Vinhill Road, but then there are those that would want to take the trail and take it all the way back to Broad Run eventually and then hit Broad Run Trail and then you could go to Rawlins Ford Park or you could take it for all intents and purposes all the way down to 28 at least at this point, and eventually to Bristow Battlefield. At least that's our vision and that's what we're working towards. With SilverBale and Pioneer Drive, and we've been talking and again, this is where we kind of get into the conversation about something that looking at this holistically.

And so when Pioneer Drive right now is not a VDOT Standard Road. So so and that will not be even be addressed until if and when Silver Bell is addressed. But in the Silver Bell proposal, much of the property to the east along Braemar, there's gonna be a very massive wide buffer that's in there. And in my conversations with the developer for that is we want a parking area at the end right at the beginning, and I also are working to try to get those part that part of the parcel and planning staff get ready for this one because this will come to you. I I want that become county land because the last thing I want is another transmission line being pushed through here.

And so because of that amount of land being left open, that just makes it ripe for something in the future for for a transmission, and we don't want that going through here. So that's gonna be part of my conversation as we we talk about Silver Bell. But in looking at a parking, what I would see as a potential temporary parking spot, but eventually a broader and better parking lot for accessing the Broad Run Trail at the end of Pioneer would be the best place for that eventually. But again, that's something that we've got to work towards. But in the meantime, we come up with this temporary solution as was discussed, and we can put that in to make sure that those parcels are available for the public.

And I guess it's something we have to make sure that the homeowners association also

Maintains.

Maintains.

Yes. One of the questions that Angela brought up was about if something happens with the wells, public water and sewer hookups. Talk to us about what happens in that scenario where if if the water is no longer potable that you would what would be the next steps?

As it's currently proffered, the applicant is responsible to repair or replace the well. And how I've understood it, and I might have SAFE come up to talk directly about it is the fall safe is connection to public sewer public water, but I just want to confirm that with the applicant. So what I was told is repair or replace means if it can't be repaired, and then it can't be replaced, meaning they dig another well and it doesn't have adequate capacity for water, then they would connect them to public water.

Good. Okay. And that's in the proffers?

The second half of that is not. Okay.

So right now

it says repair or replace the well.

Okay. And so replacing it it can we add that that clarified that that would mean hooking up to public water if necessary? Yes.

And I'll show these to Michelle before you vote.

Okay. Alright. I'm down to thirty seven seconds. I'll stop there.

That's gonna be generous. I just want to know, Michelle, do we need should we call recess? Do you need additional time to review this, or are you comfortable?

In two seconds, I will, for all of them.

All right. Well, are there any other questions or anything anyone else wanted to all right. Oh, Supervisor Bailey.

Mine is really simple. You know, this is playing out in a very communal way. And I just want to say that because when it happens, we have to acknowledge it. You have to acknowledge it, and I'm I'm so thankful for the citizens that came out. There were two there were three, actually. Two in one person and then the other.

Two in one person.

But I'm very grateful for the other citizens that want that wanted to have generational future generations to grow in this community. And miss Klein also said did I say your name right? Miss Klein also said that we may be a little too late for Van Hill and how we're doing with the area plans. Did I quote you correctly? And I'm not supposed to be talking to you right now.

But I think that's real important to acknowledge because oftentimes you hear one of us say up here that we are working with old stuff, old plans, and and trying to revise them and make them brand new. But when the community comes and partners with us, partners with the applicants, partners with the board to make it good for the community, I think that's where we're really trying to go with our comprehensive plan. And so I just wanted to say that because controversy sometimes is good. We don't have to often make it bad. So I think this is just an example.

And then to have Mr. Gordy have previous experience as a planning commissioner, that really helps us a lot also here on the board. And so are y'all done? I've talked as long as I can. Alright.

Well, we have supervisor Bode, so he can fill in the gaps.

Yes. I I just my my question is very quick and direct, but, hopefully, you'll stall long enough. So do you have account, miss Cameron, on over the course of maybe not all the project, at least these two actually, if if you do have it, I would appreciate. How many ADUs there are among all the projects combined?

I don't have that number. I could get it to you.

I appreciate that.

Just with this project, there's 71, but I can get a count of all of the projects together.

I think it would be helpful as we continue to talk about this holistically. I appreciate Okay.

I can do that.

All right. I don't have anyone are you everything is good?

Yes. I thought would be helpful if I can read the changes to the proffers so that you all know what changes were made, and then it could so the proffers will be dated today, so 03/31/2026. And then the first change to the proffer is proffer it I'm sorry. This is for Greenhaven. So the Greenhaven proffers are first.

The first change to the proffer is proffer 16 c. It will read trails and 10 parking spaces to be open to the public for access to the trail network. We also need to amend proffer 16 f because the plans and design guidelines only show one playground and not two. And I believe those were the only changes for Greenhaven. For The Village at Broad Run, again, these proffers are dated 03/31/2026.

The first change is going to be at the end of proffer 15, and it reads, in the event the well cannot be repaired or replaced, the applicant will connect the property to public water. And then the other change is going to be proffer 32, and it will now read the applicant shall dedicate g pin 7395Dash85Dash0627 to Prince William County for Parks and Recreation, Public Safety, and or another public use that the county deems appropriate. Said dedication shall occur prior to bond release. And those were the changes addressing the comments we heard.

Alright. Supervisor Gordy.

Madam chair, thank you. And thank you to the applicant. Thank you for the planning staff. And just as this the Silas Road community uttered tonight, much appreciation to the applicant for listening. A lot of times, we don't get folks who are willing to listen.

And so it certainly makes our lives a lot harder. But when recognizing that all of us have blind spots things that we need to consider that maybe we hadn't thought about, you listened and we appreciate that. I do want to thank the Silas folks. You guys have been just wonderful. Your hospitality is true in Oaksville.

You you you exemplify the goodness of Noakesville. Thank you. And and and the the inputs and the time that you spent to to to work on these is unlike anything else I've seen from any other community in Brentsville. So thank you very, very much. And I also want to thank the Planning Commission.

I think everybody on the Planning Commission had some inputs to things that can be done to improve this. And really, it gets back to what you've just talked about. It really is about community. And one of the things that we've really tried to drive towards in this area is, number one, let's try to preserve as much of the rural character as we can. We know what the comp plan says, but we're hopeful that even though the small area plan is is was is kind of running tandem to this, it's just it was the hand that I was dealt.

But we still want to try to maintain that rural character in this area, and so that's why we tried to come up with a more comprehensive rather than a piecemeal plan. And so with that said, I want to and last person, want to thank Jacob, my Chief of Staff as well. He's done yeoman's work helping us navigate through all this and keeping us all moving and rolling in the same direction here. So with that said, I would like to move item 7A with proffers dated 03/31/2026. Second.

Alright. It's been properly moved and seconded. Is there any discussion on this? Supervisor Boddy.

Yeah. Thank you, madam chair. And I guess we're gonna do the other one after sequentially. Okay. I appreciate that. So thank you. I'll just do the same round of thank yous. Thank you for the community. Oftentimes, have folks where I know one of the gentlemen said earlier, I'm not too happy about this. We all worked through it. Instead of just saying, no. We don't want this and just sort of shutting off communication because we do have applicants they're like JR and what have you. They wouldn't work with folks that are willing to have those communication where if they can't hear from you what you want because you're just like, we don't want it here. It doesn't really help. So I wanted to thank you for that.

And I appreciate, miss Klein, especially your commentary around, hey. Can this be more transparent to in terms of who the planners are, what have you, who the who their applicant is? I know that this particular iteration of the planning department has been trying to make inroads and making themselves more accessible, but it seems still seem like there's more work to do. I know that all the communication go I may have as a small but at the end who the planner is may have some information. Maybe you can work on that too.

So I appreciate that. Because there needs to be like, your point, the folks really wanna work with these applicants knowing who to talk to, who in the county side, in the in the applicant side. I appreciate that. To go back to the project itself, especially this one, I just want to really highlight how this is, again, and I know some of my colleagues have talked about this, a a a sort of example of how to be good neighbors to an existing community. Right?

We have, we have Braemar that's right there. We have these other communities that are coming in alongside of it, and you and the applicant did a really good job sort of working through how to make it sort of fit in terms of what's already there and then what's to come alongside of it and and really making sure that we don't have some of this disjointed Frankenstein monster development that we see in other parts of the county where it gets only done in a silo, and there's not really a plan there. So I really wanted to to highlight that. Also appreciate the commentary and the conversation around the the historical natural resources. It sounds like there were some back and forth there, but I really, really appreciate how there was a a real conversation there, because the last thing we wanna do is is lose inadvertently some part of the history of this area.

And just the last thing I'll say, about this one is, ultimately, we have a situation where we have a built up suburban area already. This is some far flung area out in some, rural enclave in the middle where there's built up. There's infrastructure that is right next door, and this helps build on that in a in a meaningful way. So for all those reasons and a lot of the commitments that have been made by the the applicant and how this does, again, align with every single, conference of plan reviewer that looked at this, I'm gonna be supporting this. So thank you, madam chair.

Supervisor Vega. Are you still with us, supervisor Vega?

I am. I'm sorry. I was trying to find my unmute button. Can you all hear me?

Yes.

Yes. Can hear you. Thank you, madam chair. I'm gonna I know that we have, we're speaking on the one now, but I'm just gonna speak up for both. Certainly wanna start off by thanking supervisor Goready and his team for what I view a wonderful job at working with the applicant, and now I'll direct my praises to the applicant for working with the district supervisor's office, to ensure that we addressed or that they addressed rather all of the concerns that the community raised.

One of the issues that I had the main issue that I had with the initial applications along the Vint Hill Corridor stemmed with the eminent domain that was brought to my attention by the applicant has been taken care of. And so I am pleased, that that, situation has been handled in regards to, these applications. I also wanna talk a little bit about the community engagement because for me, I know that that is, extremely important, and I've been made aware that the applicant, has had, I believe, over a dozen meetings with members of the community. That right there, shows that the applicant was serious about listening and addressing the concerns raised, by members of the community. And lastly, just wanna make an emphasis on the fact that, what is being presented here tonight aligns with the comp plan.

So overall, I know that we don't always, as supervisors, get on everything that we want and that, the citizens don't always get everything that they want, but this is an indication of the district supervisor and the applicant working together to ensure that most of the concerns, have been addressed and that, this proposal has been been been put forth here tonight. So thank you, supervisor, and thank you to the applicant and to the members of the community that came out and spoke.

Alright. Do we have anyone else? I'll just say a couple things. You know, I appreciate when the community comes out. It is very late. It is tough. I'm going to give special praise to Mrs. Klein because three weeks out, wow, that's dedication. I know that there are people who have been concerned about the development along the Van Hill Corridor. And yes, Supervisor Gordy did initiate a small area plan looking at that area. It's hard when there's already development coming, but I know that you've tried to work with everyone. You've tried to hurt the cats. And that's a hard task to do. And I do appreciate the applicant working with people and hearing concerns. I know that there are still outstanding concerns.

It sounds like from my perspective that staff has addressed a lot of these things. So, I'm excited to vote in support of this project. We do need additional housing. We are a growing community. What I look for is projects that are thoughtful. That have community engagement. That are leveraging the land, leveraging the area and really trying to blend in and again, be good neighbors. Not everyone's willing to do that. So, that is something I appreciate greatly. So, with that, I'd like to go ahead and call for the vote.

Supervisor Stewart? No. Supervisor Vega?

Aye.

Thank you. Motion passes seven to one. Supervisor Stewart voting nay.

All right. Thank you very much. Supervisor Gordy.

Before I make my motion, also want to address one thing that Ms. Klein said, and that's about the four laning. We're still working that. It's not I'm with you, and we're and that's something that we're going to keep pushing. And so we've there's a few things that we will have to work on as the county. And again, and continuing to work with the community on those issues. That said, I would like to move to approve Item 7B with proffers dated 03/31/2026. Second.

That's been probably moved to secondant. Supervisor Boddy.

Yeah. Thank you, madam chair. Just very quickly on this one. Just overall, I know folks, always have concerns and and and anxiety when they see new development coming. I know there's folks feel like, hey. This is gonna impact schools, gonna impact traffic, gonna impact all these things for my quality of life. And I know, miss Miller, you in particular sort of talked about the climate impacts of all this. And I think I I I hear you on that. I see in a slightly different direction because I've talked to folks around the region. And when we underbuild in the places where we where where we need to, like areas like this that's already next to existing infrastructure, we push the development farther out.

And when we push development farther out, that's longer trips for folks. That's more development in places where there isn't infrastructure for it. It has more global climate, implications. So I hear you on that, but at the same time that there are ways that and I think we did that with the comp plan of putting the right growth in the right places, at least in prepared opinions of this, to sort of address that. Also, it was mentioned around, hey.

We don't really have a climate adaption, adaptation person in yet. We kinda do he's in sustainability department. He's still running up to speed. But part of his work will hopefully be not necessarily every single land use case, but these larger impact where they transportation projects or what have you, really working with the planning department to see what those greenhouse gas emissions differences are versus here versus there, but also putting in things like more shared use paths versus not. How we can also integrate a lot more of that mobility planning that you talked about.

It would be great if we get to a point where we're able to talk about in line of these conversations with these projects. Hey. Can we put an OmniRide bus stop right there? We're not quite there yet when it's just piecemeal, but with the number of of rooftops that are coming in this area holistically, there's definitely a conversation to be had with Bob Schneider and OmniRide about bringing the OmniRide bus to this part of the county when there wasn't just really enough rooftops there from before. But I know that we continue to talk about that as a board, and it has to come hand in glove with conversation around how do we fund OmniRide to get us there. So we're in the midst of budget cycles. I know that we talk about transit and transit oriented development. So I'll just say that those conversations are still ongoing, but they're all very valid points. I hope we can continue to talk about those and push the ball forward as a board. Thank you, madam chair.

Alright. I don't have anyone else in queue. So let's I wanna curt hurry up and call for the vote. It's getting late.

Supervisor Stewart? No. Supervisor Vega? Aye. Thank you. Motion passes seven to one. Supervisor Stewart voting nay.

All right. Thank you so very much. I'm going to give people a moment to exit before we move on to agenda item number nine. All right, we are moving into agenda item number nine, and that is public comment time. All right, I have four people.

I don't know if Melody left, but Melody Miller, then Laura Perez, Patrice Summers, and Jess Brown. So you have three minutes each, please. Even though I called your names, please state your name, the Magisterial District where you reside and you have three minutes will be up on the screen.

Thank you. My name is Laura Perez. I reside in the Potomac District. Madam Chair, supervisors, and mister Shorter, I'm here today as a resident of Prince William County and a proud county employee who welcomes the idea of a union for general employees. My concern today is related to any further proposed delays to the ability of general county employees to unionize and enter into collective bargaining.

The current twelve month language in place regarding signature authorization cards has created an unnecessary obstacle for general employees to unionize. We have worked hard to get the signatures needed, but unfortunately through attrition and the twelve month rule always fall just short of our objective to bring the union to Prince William County. Employees sign the authorization cards with the expectation it will be used to move us forward. There is an expectation there is no expectation of an expiration date. A union for general employees is now within our grasp and we need your support to get over the finish line.

Any further delay will be a disservice to all current and future county employees and the county residents we serve. A question I've heard repeatedly is why is it so hard for you to get the general employees on board? Why is it so hard to get signatures? Well, unlike the police and fire, general employees wear many hats, a multitude of uniforms, and are spread out throughout the county, serving the residents of this county. As someone who regularly drives for work from one another county to the other, this makes what we have thus far been able to accomplish amazing.

As a county resident and a county employee, I am darn proud of us. I hope you are as well and will throw your support to the general employees of this county. Thank you.

Next speaker please.

My name is Patrice Summers and I'm in the Potomac District.

Can you, I'm sorry, adjust the mic so we can hear you? Thank you. Or you just lean in.

My name is Patrice Summers and I'm in the Potomac District. Madam chair and board members and mister Shorter, good evening. I'm Patrice Summers. I have worked for Prince William County for twenty six years. I am here tonight to talk about the importance of collective bargaining rights for Prince William County general employees. We are a part of Prince William too, and we county employees want our voices to be heard. We want to be a part of fixing things that ail us in the county. The current twelve month expiration date on the authorization cards have been a hindrance in our efforts. We get so close and have to start all over again. It's like being on a hamster wheel.

We get we are not police or fire and rescue. We, the general, are compromised of many agencies wearing many, many hats. Please consider removing the language that restricts the general county employees from being able to file and have a union election. Anyone not wanting to be a part of the collective bargaining process, they just tell us no or don't fill out the authorization card. However, any wins made allows everyone to win and makes our county stronger and better.

The many agencies have worked hard together to win a seat at the table to negotiate our first union contract and will not go that will not go into effect until 2028. We too just want to be like police, fire and rescue, and the teachers. We make a positive difference in the community by providing quality public services. Please consider making this change. Thank you.

Next speaker please.

Good evening Prince William Board of Supervisors. I'm Jess Brown. I actually live in Fairfax County. But I have the pleasure of working with the Prince William County general employees. I am in awe of the quality public services they provide selflessly for to the community each and every day.

I'm also in awe of the union leaders, two of whom are here tonight, who have worked so hard to build the Prince William chapter of the union. One of the union leaders this evening told me, in fact, that she will spend all Easter weekend on call making herself available for any community member in need of child protective services. You know, while we are all celebrating Easter, many people have that weekend off. So these union supporters deserve to have a true voice and input in the decision making process related to their pay, benefits, and working conditions. Prince William General County employees have united over 30 different departments together.

I ask the Prince William Board of Supervisors to please remove the expiration date from the collective bargaining ordinance as soon as possible so they can join Fairfax and Loudoun County General employees and have a union election. Thank you.

Thank you. Supervisor Ingrid, do we have anyone available? Do you know if we have anyone online?

Do we have any online? Oh, alright. Thanks.

All right, we do not have anyone online. So that ends our public comment time. We're going to move on to supervisors time. I'm going to start with our people on the screen. Supervisor Stewart, you are up.

Thank you. Thank you, madam chair. I don't really have a lot of supervisor time. I just want to alert the board that I want the Prince William Digital Gateway litigation added to the closed session for our next meeting on April 7. And that's it.

Alright. Thank you very much. Supervisor Vega.

Thank you, madam chair. I'll jump right into it. I will be issuing the following directive. I sent this directive to the entire board, the county executive, and the county attorney are also both aware. Madam chair, without objection, I would like to direct the county executive to work with staff to develop and administer an anonymous county wide employee survey to assess county employees' perspectives on a on authorization card practices related to the current collective bargaining ordinance.

The survey should be distributed to eligible eligible employees, be mutually worded, and clearly explain the current twelve month limitation as well as any proposed extension, including whether there is a defined process to resend a previously signed card. The county attorney's office is directed to review the proposed survey language for any legal issues. The goal is to gather information regarding county employees' perspectives on allowing signatures to remain valid beyond twelve months or a defined expiration period to reflect the current collective bargaining ordinance. The county executive shall report the results of the survey to the board at a future board meeting or by memorandum as appropriate. The survey must be completed and results provided to the board prior to the board's vote on the proposed collective bargaining ordinance amendment so that the information may be inform the board's decision.

I'm gonna object, madam chair.

Alright. I object as well. So we're gonna go ahead and turn this into a motion, and I'd to contain everything into the motion. So I'm sorry, we don't do this too often. So I believe that you're going to have to make a motion. Supervisor Vega?

Sure, Madam Chair. I'd be happy to do so. I make the following motion that my directive be voted on as read onto the record.

Is there a second?

Second.

It's been moved and seconded by supervisor Angry. Discussion, supervisor Bodhi.

Yeah. Thank you, madam chair. Sergeant Vega, while I appreciate the spirit of this and I'm sorry we didn't get a chance to connect, before now, I I have a question for the county exec. And to your knowledge, when we're going through and part of this obviously prefaces this before your time a little bit. When we were going through the initial draft and the collective bargaining ordinance and then the subsequent changes afterward, did we ever do a survey of how the the the general workforce of e one, felt about the CBO or the changes that were being done?

So I was not here for the start of the CBO discussions. I would actually turn to Michelle for the historical perspective. I will say that when the CBO was changed, once I did get here, no. There was no survey of staff.

So base so in terms of that, during the initial phasing and at least you just confirmed, when we made those initial changes, there was no survey done. So this would be unprecedented as part of the process as doing a survey. Correct. Okay. Appreciate that. And that that sort of gets to the crux of of why, I have concerns about this because I I get wanting to hear people's read on this potential change at the same time. It wasn't done when we initially, crafted the CBO. It wasn't done when we made the initial changes. We did get some feedback from folks here and there, but it wasn't an an official survey done. And I have concerns about inserting, the the county staff and the CXO in doing a survey like this sort of out of the blue of employees on their views on this.

Even if it's, neutrally worded, even if it's, deemed anonymous, I'm sure there are some gonna be some employees who will have concerns, participating in it at all or participating in it honestly. You know, I I I there's a lot there that that folks could have concerns about. So for those reasons, I'm gonna object to this. Thank you, madam chair.

Supervisor Bailey.

Thank you, madam chair. Madam chair, I'm going to object to this as well. I won't be supporting this. This is, the request that, our citizens have made, our employees have made. It's nothing out of the norm, not anything unusual, and an an ordinary collective bargaining ordinance.

It has, been, voted upon and supported in our regional partners. I think that I our employees are entitled to benefits, protection, the ability to, protect their employment, as they serve us and serve the community. It is taking resources and funding for us to get to a very good point of voting and completely voting on the collective bargaining process, and we have tried to save as much money as we can, but we know we have to expend money to protect our employees. And for that, I think it would be quite unfair to the employees in our county if we move forward with another roadblock to not protect our employees as they are requesting so.

Supervisor Angry.

I don't see this as a roadblock, I'll say that. And I will simply say this here, I'm the one that made the motion that got us to collective bargaining. And police and fire are paramilitary organizations. They are born into structure. What I've learned about our general employees that we have different departments and groups.

I'm interested in understanding all of these groups, and I think we should have done a better job of this. No disrespect to you, Mr. Shorter, but we should have done a better job of educating our general employees about what a collective bargaining and what a union is because this is new to Prince William County. So I really don't understand why twelve months we can't get signatures as quickly as we got for police and fire. I get that they're very structured and our general employees have not been.

You've heard him mention the fact that you have different departments that are trying to get together to get collective as one. This is about one group of every general employee and in this county, how many departments do we have and they're different? I need to know how these departments are doing and what we need to do to educate them to get here. I don't think this is about twelve months. I think this is simply about we have a very large organization bigger than our police and fire that we need to educate and figure out what's going on.

And I believe this survey is a start, and understanding it's not hindering to get to the point of the decision for the public hearing. I want to see where we are in getting a pulse, because I think at that point, then we need to figure out the next step to really try to educate and understand, you know, what the kind of holdup is. So it's my position.

Supervisor Vega.

Thank you, madam chair. Mister Shorter, do county employees get surveyed at all throughout the year?

Yes. Supervisor Vega, they do.

Thank you for that. So this is not unprecedented like, supervisor Bodhi alleges. This is not a roadblock. This is not delaying anything. We're merely wanting to get additional data to hear from all county employees. I will go on the record saying this. And if other county employees are watching, I hope that they find, not just my office, but I know that you've reached out to other supervisors' offices to express some of the experiences and or concerns that you've been having. Nobody should be afraid to give an opinion one way or the other. Again, we're not delaying anything. We're moving this along.